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July 31, 2025 41 mins

Trey Hendrickson shouldn’t be blamed for being a distraction but both he and Micah Parsons are until their deals are done. Senior NFL Reporter for TheMMQB, Albert Breer joins the guys LIVE from his Training Camp Tour. Plus, liquor store roulette on Lee’s Leftovers.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Based on the video I send you guys last night,
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their little infant when it cries, and Creed seems to

(00:55):
make the crying go away.

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Speaker 5 (01:03):
I mean, Lee always told me Booze, we'll do the trick.
But if you you want to do Creed, then that's fine.
Sold a baby. When's the last time you held an infinitely.

Speaker 6 (01:16):
My godson Dean held him.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Wow?

Speaker 4 (01:21):
You guys, ask you you They should not be allowed
to reproduce.

Speaker 7 (01:26):
You guys asked the same question the hell had a child,
and then looked at you and like, yep, I'm a
fan Lee to lashing takeover as the dad here, uncle baby,
your tongue ass, mister Dean.

Speaker 8 (01:43):
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honorary godfather.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
That was the best that me and Lee did. You
were you there for the baptism.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
That means he has no intentions of leaving his kid
with Lee, but he likely enough that he doesn't want
to know.

Speaker 6 (01:58):
I'm not allowed to babysit.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Norman age older younger? Huh is he your age? Older younger?

Speaker 8 (02:05):
He's my best buddy I've grown grown up with. That
was his best man, same same age.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
I thought you already had a best friend.

Speaker 8 (02:11):
To Todd's uh foster He's like a foster dog or
adopted dog. I picked him up off the streets. He's
not you know, he doesn't go all. He's not old school,
he's not o G.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
He's a strength.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
You mean y'all met on the streets. Yeah, you didn't
pick him up. Y'all was there together?

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah? Which tenth did you guys meet in?

Speaker 4 (02:31):
We remember the story.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (02:32):
I actually just listened back to the interview because we're
talking about it yesterday.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (02:36):
Yeah, he stumbled across my car in the middle of
the night. So found him on the streets.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
Oh my god, what.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
That's a log story. But yeah, Tod turning tricks.

Speaker 6 (02:46):
Yeah, basically, no, he was Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
He need some company.

Speaker 6 (02:50):
He was none.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
You see this che burger, guys want a cheeseburger? Man,
ow would you say to me?

Speaker 5 (03:07):
I said, ah, uh so so he uh was panhandling
or what?

Speaker 8 (03:15):
No, he was living in the old nunnery next door
that they were under construction, so he.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
Fa whole nunnery. He was homeless, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (03:22):
He wassing. He was living in my lesbian living face.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
He was a LESBIANI lesbian homeless person living.

Speaker 8 (03:29):
In lesbian homeless person. No, he was living in all
my parents couch basically. And I'd be coming home after
work every day and he'd be I'd be like, who's
this guy.

Speaker 6 (03:39):
In my parents house?

Speaker 4 (03:40):
And your parents took in homeless lesbian that was living
in a nunnery.

Speaker 8 (03:47):
Yeah, I grew up next.

Speaker 4 (03:49):
To your stories get wilder by the day.

Speaker 5 (03:54):
Friendly reminder to everybody who doubts the legitimacy of these
stories involvingly. These are all create these are all like
these these things happen. We are not spinning yarns. These
are true things.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
About lead to lap and his thick tongue ads.

Speaker 6 (04:10):
Yeah, I grew up next to a convent and uh.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
How many more times were gonna get thick tongue ass.

Speaker 5 (04:16):
It's like get it in, running it into the ground,
get it in while we can do good.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Well, I do know this, QE.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
Get over it. He's overs likesed a twenty times.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
It was funny the first few.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Now it's like all right, okay, well so it's like
your damn toyter truck just.

Speaker 5 (04:38):
Gab for people wondering. Kwame Brown said this, which is
why we're mentioning it.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Total people, one thing I see it. This is a
stupid He don't self sabotage. He's a dummy.

Speaker 9 (04:53):
Let me close this do it's like my birthday shop
your tongue.

Speaker 10 (05:00):
Ye?

Speaker 2 (05:03):
All right?

Speaker 1 (05:05):
First off, from the best part about that entire clip
is like Shannon Sharp just gets like thrown in the
mix of it. But it's really about Gilbert Arenas, Like
that's what's that's what's funny.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
About it. To me at least, it's like he.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Just catches a stray just because he just got fired
from ESPN. It's it's odd how that comes about. It's like, like,
was there a beef between Kwame and and Shannon Sharp?

Speaker 4 (05:30):
I don't know. Apparently apparently he ain't got no love
for him.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
I was, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Like, I know there was beef obviously with Gilbert Arenas
and Kwame Brown. I didn't know there was an issue
between Shannon Sharp and Kwame Brown, So like, why does
he catch it astray?

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Oh, it's just too good man, too good.

Speaker 10 (05:50):
Hey.

Speaker 5 (05:50):
By the way, speaking of good good news, Trey Hendrickson
is back all right. He is back at Bengals camp.
Everybody all right, So people are fired up in Cincinnati.
But Tray Anderson did talk a little bit yesterday.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
With the media.

Speaker 5 (06:04):
He explained why he left the goals for this season
and upon his return to training camp there in Cincy,
and also what he is expecting when it comes to
the potential contract getting done.

Speaker 11 (06:16):
Prior to leaving to Florida, I was here thirty days
in Cincinnati, so the goal was always a beat in Cincinnati.
Some things transpired it became public that I left to
go to Florida, but it was never something that I
wasn't going to be here to help the twenty twenty
five Bengals. You know, things are exactly the same. What
I'm not going to do is as best as I can,

(06:39):
like avoid being a distraction. You know, I want to
help the guys, you know, the guys that have helped
me along the way, to Mario Davis, Cam Jordan, even
Sam Hubbard helped me a lot when I was here.
So to be that right now, I think is that's
what's most important. And this this narrative will kind of
iron itself out as we continue to progress towards the season.
And not only I've mentioned it multiple times this offseason,

(07:02):
but also I believe ownership has as well that there
are plans on not having to play under the current deal.

Speaker 5 (07:11):
So doesn't want to be a distraction. It just feels
like we're way past that point, like this is a distraction.
But is he the distraction? I mean, why does he
have to present it as he being the distraction. The
points of him deserving more money are legit. I don't
think it should be viewed as you know, it's.

Speaker 4 (07:33):
So simple, and it's so convenient to always turn these
types of situations into how the player conducts himself in
these moments. But in reality, he shouldn't even have to
be in this situation to even have to address it
this way. The Bengals should have already addressed it. It

(07:54):
should have already been made known that this is what
they're working on, and it's going to take a little
bit of time, but we're gonna get it done because
this is the most productive defensive player in the National
Football League over the last two years and he's going
to get rewarded for it. It's just gonna take a
little time. I just don't like that. I don't like
that it's always about the player and how the player

(08:16):
handled in the player becoming a distraction. I don't think
that's cool at all.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
I also think players in the locker room are understanding
of this.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
You know, I understand the point he's making in regards
to the younger players and the impact that guys like
Cam Jordan or some of the others he's played with
that were the older veteran players, and how they mentored him,
especially when he was a young player.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
I get that.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
I do think players are really understanding of like make
sure you take care of your business and make sure
you get the contract you want. That's probably the best
lesson these veterans could teach the younger players.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
And in this case.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
You know, it's not very often that you find teams
with players who hold out. You know, there's maybe one guy,
maybe one guy year every other or something like that
that that goes on, and it's very rare. You have
a guy that, to Levar's point, that's played the way
he has the last couple of seasons that have not
gotten the contract that he's looking for, at least not yet.
So I tend to think this it's not a distraction

(09:14):
to the younger players or some of those players. You know,
he's he's doing what he thinks is right and apologizing
to these guys. But he's not a distraction, not to
those guys, he's it's a distraction to the ownership group,
as it should be, because they're cheap asses, have not
you know, signed up, and give them the contract that
he deserves, that he's earned, and people can take issue

(09:37):
with that. If you're Bengals fans, I have no idea
why you side with your ownership group, because you're a
lot closer to the blue collar workers that are the
players than you are the multi multi millionaire billionaire owners.
I have no idea why, but for some reason, fans
always seem to like take aim in us or like
the players, and they sit there and try to take

(09:58):
shots about that. But Jonas Stewart telling me last night, Uh,
you said Trey doesn't have a deal yet because he's white,
that if he if he wasn't white, he already have
a deal.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Didn't you mention that it's something?

Speaker 5 (10:08):
Yeah? Why is that racist? I mean that seems pretty
obvious to me.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
TJ.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
Watt got a deal.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
You have to say TJ. Wat did. But you also
said that TJ. Watt had some drips in of LeVar.

Speaker 4 (10:20):
I'm not. I mean, I don't know. His hair is
a little little you know, it's I mean, it looks
like it has some texture to it. You know, he
looks like he's got a little bit of tent to him.
I'm just saying, yeah, it could be in there somewhere.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Would he able to make it? Would he be able
to make it? That six seconds in that video that
said to you guys, did you watch it?

Speaker 2 (10:42):
LeVar did he watch it? Which one did he watch it?
Hold on?

Speaker 1 (10:48):
The guy asked if he could caress the other guy's
hair for forty bucks.

Speaker 4 (10:51):
But he's got it. Yeah yeah, six seconds. Yeah yeah,
seen that to get his forty bucks. Like he was
upset about.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
It, you know.

Speaker 5 (10:59):
Yeah, know what if you want my neck not my
neck lee if you want, I'm not I'm not sensitive.
So if you want to roll with that on social
media and make that the headline, Jonas Knock says, Trey
Hendrickson would already have a contract if he wasn't white.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
If you want to roll with that as the headline,
I'll wear it.

Speaker 6 (11:17):
That's fine. Oh yeah, that sounds sounds like a good idea.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Sounds like a great idea. Huh interesting. I just let
me here's a hypothetical force.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
And I'm the one that always gets accused of race baiting.
Like it's the craziest thing. Oh that LeVar he this
brig up color, Like all right, you know t J.
Watt is black. There you go, there's another headline for you.
I'm in Ross Saint Brown.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
He told us.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
The right way, the proper way to get you a
highest paid player in the National Football League. Don't stamp it,
don't don't don't, don't stamp on it, don't cut it,
don't cut it, don't cut it too much. You gotta
you gotta go pure and then stamp it a little bit,
up on it a little bit, you know what I mean.
But then you got to get back to it. You know,
you got to keep that gold.

Speaker 5 (12:05):
That's maybe that's Trey Hendrickson's problem. You know, the ancestors
cut it too much. Dang, and now he can't get paid.

Speaker 6 (12:11):
Really sad.

Speaker 5 (12:12):
The whole the whole story is said. I think it's unfortunate.
I don't like you guys making a mockery of it.
I think it's fasting. To be honest with you, can
I pin here's a hypothetical for you that that week.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
Last part made absolutely no sense to me by the
way I went with you on it, though I went
on the journey with you. But it's all great, let's
go on.

Speaker 5 (12:30):
Let's go on this journey because I think anything's possible
with the Bengals and the the nickel and dime approach
that they take to things. Week one, Trey Hendrickson still
doesn't have a deal. Does he suit up and play
in the first game of the season.

Speaker 4 (12:47):
I say yes, I say, I mean, why would he not.

Speaker 5 (12:54):
I think he's going to do it with the intentions
he has said. He just said the plan is not
to play on this current deal. And it's not that
far out. They'll get a plan. Yeah, they'll get it.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Just there's too much time.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
On top of it, I mean, how are you not
going to suit up to play? He'd be subject to fines.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
Then, I would say, on top of that, then you're
you're talking about if he gets out there and he
starts bawling out, which you know, I want a new contract.
You know, we got to redo this contract. And I
get out there and then the first games or something
something to that effect, I get two three sacks, you know,
two three four sacks over the first two games. You'd

(13:40):
have to assume that the price is going up, Like
I'm still balling right now while you need to be
redoing my contract. He's adding more value, more fuel to
the fire of paying him that money versus not. So
I would assume that they get the deal done.

Speaker 5 (13:58):
I mean, could somebody just like legitimately hold out and
miss games for once so we could like something more
interesting to talk about, please, like somebody pulling emm at
Smith sit out two games make them sweat.

Speaker 4 (14:09):
I feel like that's the Micah would be more likely
to sit out than to play through it and be like,
just give me a new contract, maybe because of his
age and how important it could be to try to
lock that contract in before maybe possibly incurring any type
of injuries that could you know, derail you know, some

(14:32):
of the momentum he has. I would think it would
be Micah more so than anybody else. But again I
think they get it done with him before season gets
here as well.

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Speaker 1 (15:23):
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Speaker 2 (15:31):
What do you mean, don't lie, Jonas, don't lie. I
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Speaker 10 (15:37):
Shannon.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
I still don't give why Shannon Sharp got caught a
stretch catch me. Everything about that video was about Gilbert Arenas,
and yet all of a sudden, like Shannon Sharp gets
caught in the mix of that.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
Kwammy, you better chill out. Opy over there, Oakley over there,
you better chill out Kwame.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
All right?

Speaker 5 (16:15):
Well, from that over to this, could we see a
real legitimate holdout. We'll get the answer to that for
you coming up next here on Two Pros and a
Cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 5 (17:15):
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with the hair. About
twenty minutes from now, we're gonna have another edition of
Lee's Leftovers?

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Does he have it?

Speaker 10 (17:24):
Hey?

Speaker 2 (17:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (17:25):
Yeah, yeah, yay, yeay, yay yeah okayangkay.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
That was too much for you? Is that the Kwame version?

Speaker 4 (17:36):
You felt like you were in the club, didn't you.
This isn't the club that I attend. Sorry about that, bar,
I don't.

Speaker 11 (17:51):
Go there either.

Speaker 5 (17:54):
Have Lee's Leftovers coming up here in about twenty minutes
from now, But right now we will welcome in the
one and only Albert Breer, Senior NFL reporter, lead content
strategist at the MMQB. You can also see his work
on Amazon Primes NFL coverage AB. Where are you at

(18:16):
currently doing the show?

Speaker 13 (18:21):
Well, first of all, thanks for playing my song there.
I appreciate you. I had to Jesus, prices are two
had actually just as you were saying that my second
alarm went off, so I had to shut the alarm.
That's what the pause was there. I'm in San Francisco,
were well.

Speaker 10 (18:38):
I guess more specifically Santa Clara.

Speaker 13 (18:41):
So yeah, I'm feeling like you guys.

Speaker 10 (18:43):
Are out there.

Speaker 13 (18:45):
This five two of us at five fteen feels a
little different or five twenty or whatever it is.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Yeah, I mean it's a damn West Coast super bowls.

Speaker 13 (18:52):
Man.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
The super Bowl is going to be there again this year.

Speaker 13 (18:55):
So yeah, no, I remember coming out for remember making
me my way out there. I think it was man
like did like.

Speaker 10 (19:03):
I wasn't like a running clothes or something.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
One year, right Vegas.

Speaker 10 (19:07):
It was in Vegas you.

Speaker 4 (19:09):
Had to lead the lap fall too or or or
a slip off because you was bleeding. You was a
bloody dude with all that.

Speaker 5 (19:15):
Although you were shaving you used the hotel shaver and
oh that's right.

Speaker 10 (19:20):
Yeah, Like I think I forgot my razor.

Speaker 13 (19:21):
At home, so then I hadn't had a chance to
do like CBS or whatever yet, so I had the
cheap never used like the cheap hotel shave. Not a
good idea, Albert.

Speaker 5 (19:31):
I'm wondering were you surprised that Trey Hendrickson posted the
uh the picture last week on Instagram of him just
traveling back home to Florida only to turn around and
come back with no deal in place.

Speaker 10 (19:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (19:44):
Do you think he drove like both ways because it
looked like the way down like that was taking him
the highway, wasn't it?

Speaker 10 (19:50):
Right?

Speaker 2 (19:51):
Yeah, he was wonderfe I.

Speaker 10 (19:53):
Wonder I people on a plane, she gets to go back?
I don't know.

Speaker 13 (19:56):
I thought it kind of added to the drama too, right,
like like he was so mad he didn't have time
to to a range.

Speaker 10 (20:02):
Of flights, got in his car and drove back.

Speaker 13 (20:04):
You know. Yeah, you know, like this thing's been so
back and forth. I think I said to you guys
a few times, it's at least predictable with any FBS.
And the big part of it is because you know,
there is a personal element to it because it's lasted
three off seasons, you know, and that two years ago
is really when this started. And the root of it

(20:24):
was really four years ago when he first time with
the Bengals, because that happened during you know, one of
the COVID off seasons where the cap was down and
so the deals the deals that we're going that were
that were going out that off season were depressed. So
two years later he wants a correction on it. You know,
they have a pretty lengthy negotiation over that. They can't

(20:48):
they can't really do anything substantial, so they do a
one year band aid extension. Then last year he goes
back to the table, gets nothing, an hour back here again,
And you know, I think it's a result of a
couple of things. I mean, the first, of course, is
the explosion of the market with head rushers. We're seeing
a similar dynamic at receiver, which I think is contributed

(21:10):
to Terry McLaurin situation in Washington, you know. And then
I think there's just the way the Bengals have always
done business and the fact that they made exceptions for
Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase, and then they gave t
Higgins a new deal but didn't make the same exceptions
for him. And you know, does does does he go
in the category with with Chase and Burrow or does

(21:34):
he go in the category with Higgins? You know, obviously
as AIDS contributes to to some of the teams reluctance
to guarantee money down the road, so again, to me,
it's been the most complicated of them. I think they're
a point now where the big number, like the average
per year, is less of an issue, and we'll see

(21:54):
if they can bridge the gap of the guarantees. I
think that's really where the problem is now. And I'll look,
you know, two weekends ago, it looked like they were
going to get a deal done ahead of him leaving
and going back to Florida, and that Monday things completely
sell apart. So that's sort of an example how volatile
the whole thing's been.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Albert tell us about just where things are at in
Dallas between Micah Parsons and the Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
Have we gotten any update? Are they getting any closer
to a deal?

Speaker 10 (22:24):
Yeah, it's not.

Speaker 13 (22:25):
It's nowhere, But you know, ce Lamb was nowhere last year,
you know at this time. You know, Dak Prescott, like
I didn't feel like they were close when they opened
camp last summer. So I mean, like that's the thing,
Brady is, like we attached so much drama to these things,
you know, and like I don't know, you're talking about

(22:47):
the Instagram post with Trey Hendrickson and and and you know,
like I I think we treat these things that their
soap operas and like things can't be fixed, and they
always can be fixed. I mean, these things can turn
around in a hurry and a lot of times, like
what these things really need is deadlines. And you know,

(23:08):
when a guy shows up to camp, like Michael showed
up to camp, there's less urgency in everybody to get
a deal done. You know, the player is still the
players isn't losing money. You know, the team knows the
guy can play and knows how to get himself ready
to play even if he's not practicing fully. You know,
what you need is a deadline. And you know, I
guess again it's the guy's in camp. So it takes

(23:31):
the urgency off of everything. And so what's the next deadline? Well,
the deadline really is the season, you know, And so
you know we saw that last year even with CD
holding out like where it was costing him money. You know,
I like, you need a deadline and and and and
the season. The start of the season gave the Cowboys
that deadline with CD and Dack last year, and they

(23:51):
got those things done. And no, it's not a good
place right now, but that doesn't mean it's a reparable. Again,
I think I think that the way the things are
covered sometimes like borderline irresponsible, you know what I mean,
because we've all seen these things turn very fast over
and over and over again.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
Maybe I made the comment the statement earlier about Aaron Rodgers.
It sounds as though he's actually happy for once, and
and that he's talking from He's speaking from more of
a I'm just talking about things and how I feel
versus defending himself. I mean, his latest quote was him,

(24:32):
you know, defending Mike Tomlin and of sorts. But it
just seems as though he has like a happiness about him.
I mean, how do you see, I said this could
be a dangerous thing because a happy Aaron Rodgers could
be you know, a positive thing for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
How you know, how has it been going for him
and his interactions seems like he's been well received.

Speaker 13 (24:54):
Yeah, I mean, LeVar feels a little bit like the
way that the world's off his shoulders maybe right that way,
do you I mean? Yeah, And I think that's a
result of going to a place where they're just asking
you to go play quarterback. You know, you know, it's
the last couple of years in Green Bay. Obviously things
were strained and there was a lot going on there,

(25:16):
and you know, I think everybody felt the way to that,
you know. And then he gets to the Jets, and
you know, the Jets had the longest playoffs playoffs for
out in the NFL, and you know, you had this
group of talented young players. A lot of those guys
are still there, and you know, it was on it
was on the errand.

Speaker 14 (25:33):
To kind of like lift the boat, you know what
I mean, and lift all boats and be the guy
who's going to come in and show everybody how to
win and be the guy who changes the face of
the organization.

Speaker 10 (25:44):
You know. And he's got to be asked to do
any of that.

Speaker 13 (25:47):
In Pittsburgh, just come in and play quarterback. You know,
there are a bunch of veterans who don't need to
be taught what to do there. You know, like you've
got Jalen Ramsey and PJ. Watt and Darius Slay and
Cam Hayward and DK Metcalf. You know, it's you know,
I think for him, you know, this was part of
why he signed in Pittsburgh. You know, if he got

(26:08):
to the Giants, I think there would have been a
little bit of a similar dynamic as.

Speaker 10 (26:12):
It was with the Jets, where it was like, you have.

Speaker 13 (26:14):
Some talented young guys here, Dexter, Lawrence, Malik, Neighbors, Andrew Thomas,
you know, Brian Burns, Keevon Thibodeaux. But these guys have
never won, you know, and these guys have never done
it in the NFL. These guys have never the great
majority of never been to.

Speaker 10 (26:30):
The playoffs before.

Speaker 13 (26:31):
That's not how you're dealing with in Pittsburgh. You know,
Pittsburgh's only to a place it's got super Bowl winning
head coach, an established culture in the place for decades,
and a bunch of guys who've been around, and you know,
he can just go in there and play football. And I
remember having a conversation with him last summer about, you know,
what he was trying to do and how he'd spent
so much time and energy trying to prove to everybody

(26:53):
that he was more than a football player. He really
wanted to just appreciate playing football. And I think that's
sort of his mindset now, is like like this is
this is the opportunity for me to just go out
and focus on playing quarterback. I don't need to fix everything,
and I think you can see that in the way
that he's approaching all of it.

Speaker 5 (27:10):
Albert Brer joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, AB,
I know you were at Bears camp and there's been
mixed reviews about how everything looks there, and I'm just
surprised that people are surprised that the hiring of Ben
Johnson wasn't immediately going to solve all their issues. They
were a bad team. They've been a bad organization for
a while, Like, why why is there the feeling that, well,

(27:35):
you hired Ben Johnson, he was the guy to get
that should solve everything when it feels like they've got
more than just stuff to figure out when it comes
to their young quarterback.

Speaker 13 (27:44):
Yeah, I think I think part of it is, you know,
maybe people thought, like you turn on the TV, you
see the Lions and it looks so pretty, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 10 (27:54):
On the offense, there's.

Speaker 13 (27:55):
So much aesthetically that you love, you know, watching the
Detroit offense the last couple of years, and maybe there's
a little bit of a thought that you know, oh well,
you know, you just snap your fingers and that's where
it is. And no one remembers because nobody was following
their training camps way like what it took to get there,

(28:17):
you know, like and what it took for the Lions
to become what they what they wound up being the
last couple of years on offense, so because nobody was
tracking it like that, you know, and they had a
veteran quarterback. So you know, I was there a little
over a week ago now, I think maybe about a
week ago, and it looked it didn't look good, you know,

(28:40):
and and and Kayla looked scattered, sat in a little
all over the place and just talking to the guys
they have been included, like you know, part of it
is they're trying to feed everyone through a fire hose
to see what they can handle, because there is a
lot in the offense and that goes into it, and
you know, there's go into this process of trying to

(29:02):
again like put in everything and four feed everything, and
then as they get closer to the season, the plan
is just to narrow it down to what Caleb can
do and what the other ten guys in the.

Speaker 10 (29:13):
Huddle can do.

Speaker 13 (29:14):
And so you know, I just think this is sort
of Bend's way of coaching.

Speaker 10 (29:19):
And you know, I think because of that.

Speaker 13 (29:23):
You shouldn't be judging him on on what this looks
like in July and August. I mean, really, this is
about what it's going to look like in October November.
So because of the complexity of the offense, there's just
a certain way that they're teaching it, in a certain
way that they're installing it, And you know, I think
it's it's it's it's going to look different as they

(29:44):
get a better handle on what everybody else can digest
and do out there on the field.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
Hey, Albert, we were talking about the Tennessee Titans earlier
and just some comments that cam Ward made where they're
at offensively feeling mid or however he put it. But
we were talking about this the timeline for Brian Callahan
there as head coach. I mean, is this one of
those seasons where there's not high expectations they're going to
be starting a rookie quarterback. The two quarterbacks behind him

(30:12):
now with the Will Levison injury, only have fifteen combined
start So if anything happens to cam Ward, there's probably
not much faith in what's behind him anyway, And Brandon
Allen or the other quarterback's name escapes me. Could this
be like after this year that Titans are looking in
a different direction at head coach?

Speaker 13 (30:31):
Well, I mean, I guess anytime you bring in, you know,
a new group in the front office, and they do
have a new general manager at Mike Boorganzi and assistant
GM and Dave Ziegel, and I've sort of flipped a
lot of the organization upside down. I suppose your radar's
got to be up for that. But I don't think

(30:52):
there's going to be about winning nine or ten or
eleven games or being in the race for the playoffs.
To me, because the Titans are going through such a
massive rebuild, it's it's going to be I think, you
know about a feel for where they are organizationally coming
out of this year. And I think what you're looking
for if you're the Titans is, you know, do we

(31:13):
have you know, a group of young players coming out
of here that we feel like we can build around.
And as the quarterback is sending and again, like I
think this comes down to like to me, like I
you know, I sort of like think you know what
you're talking about here, Brady is like a little bit
like a little bit like we just talked about with Chicago,
it's you know, Cam coming from the offenses that he

(31:34):
played in college, there's an adjustment. And you know, I
talked to some of the coaches about this in the
spring where it's like he knows a lot of football,
but he has to learn how to put that football
into words because so much of what he was doing
in college, like you know, there was some handholding that
went on with the coaches and that's.

Speaker 10 (31:54):
Not his fault.

Speaker 13 (31:55):
It's just the way college offenses were. So there was
an adjustment the way that there was that There's been
an adjustment with a lot of coaches or a lot
of quarterbacks coming from college, and so Cam had to
put in extra work and you know, do that early
in the morning with some of his young.

Speaker 10 (32:10):
Teammates to get caught up. So I'm sure for.

Speaker 13 (32:13):
Him, for Cam specifically, you know, like he's still kind
of going through that some of those growing pains, and
I'm sure he's feeling that, you know, so it's like
it doesn't feel quite natural yet. I think it's what
Cam's getting at. The goal for him, I think it's
going to be to get to that point where he's
a lot more comfortable we'll get to November December translate

(32:33):
to that that's the field. And again like if that's
like a six win team, that looks like it's a
sending at the top at the end of the year,
and you know, say Cam puts together, you know, free
really solid performances in the last four or five weeks,
then I think he'll be where you need to be
really quick.

Speaker 4 (32:51):
Ab the owner of the Cleveland Browns, comes out and
basically says he had zero to do with Shador Sanders
being drafted. What what's your what's your take on it?

Speaker 13 (33:05):
Yeah, I mean I will say this, I do think
he was I do believe the Browns when they say
schedule or where they had him graded was like in
a place where he was kind of sitting there on
the top of the board when they got to the
fifth round, sort of screaming at them, you know.

Speaker 10 (33:28):
But you know, I like I do.

Speaker 13 (33:30):
I also understood the flip side of it, which is
like you took a quarterback.

Speaker 10 (33:33):
In the third round. This was your your last pack.

Speaker 13 (33:37):
You know, you didn't have a pick after that. They
didn't have any six rounders or seventh rounders after that
after trading up, so.

Speaker 10 (33:45):
There is there is a piece that works like that.

Speaker 13 (33:47):
Team had a lot of needs and they used a
piece of capital on a position where they already had
three players that they'd invested in. So do I think
Jimmy's involvement was zero? No, because you know, they met
with Jimmy, I believed the morning of the you know,
and talked about the plan in the morning of day

(34:07):
three and talked about the plan. But do I think
like Jimmy was pulling the card.

Speaker 10 (34:14):
I don't think Jimmy was pulling the card.

Speaker 13 (34:15):
I do think he's being forthright about that.

Speaker 4 (34:17):
So I think it distancing himself from the Sanders.

Speaker 10 (34:23):
And I talk to people saying that.

Speaker 13 (34:26):
I understand people thinking that, you know what I mean,
because I look like, you know, Shador has been behind
relationships to the time he got there, and he's trying
to catch up, you know, And I think he's worked
hard to catch up. He was way behind the other
three quarterbacks when he got there, and he's still behind him.
I don't think it was distancing himself from the pick,
and but I understand why people would put two and

(34:47):
two together on that. I think it was more like
he didn't want people to think he was meddling, and
he wanted to make sure that people know that, you know,
his general manager has the power to make those decisions.
I think that's what it was than anything to do
with distancing.

Speaker 10 (35:02):
Yourself on the pack.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
Abe.

Speaker 5 (35:04):
We appreciated thanks for waking up early with us and
niners camp Ab.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
I got one more question.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
Have you ever heard anyone call anyone else or I
guess called him out for having a thick tongue ass?

Speaker 4 (35:17):
Have you ever heard that thick ass tongue familiar?

Speaker 13 (35:21):
I'm not familiar with. Do you know I'm not not
familiar with it was? That was that part of the
song and the rejoin there?

Speaker 2 (35:29):
No, no, do you want to know?

Speaker 1 (35:32):
Do you want to see this Kwame Brown who seems
to be very excited about Gilbert Arenas who recently got
arrested and diet whatever that whatever happened, he's not he's
got you know, he his bond now, so he's out.
But this is Kwame Brown talking about Gilbert Arenas and
apparently Shannon Sharp and I.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
Told people one thing.

Speaker 12 (35:50):
I see it.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
This is a stupid you don't self sabotage. He's a dummy.

Speaker 9 (35:56):
Let me close this do it's like my birthday, Shannon
shop your think by Gil you in the slammer you
got there?

Speaker 3 (36:07):
If you run your mouth?

Speaker 5 (36:09):
So aby, is that part of the vernacular when you
in Columbus, when you go back?

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Or how does that like? How does that work?

Speaker 4 (36:16):
I haven't found yourself thinking that way about somebody.

Speaker 10 (36:19):
I'll try. I'll try.

Speaker 13 (36:20):
I'll cuse someone on one of my texts just having
a stick, and I'll report back and I'll tell you
what kind of.

Speaker 4 (36:28):
Response you got A screenshot it and send it over though.

Speaker 10 (36:33):
You got it, I got.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
A b We appreciate it. We'll do it again next week.

Speaker 10 (36:43):
Thanks, guys, have a good one there.

Speaker 5 (36:44):
He is the great Albert Breer with us here. Get
him on ex at Albert Brier. By the way, it
is Miracle Treat Day at d Q, which means one
dollar more for every Blizzard treat is donated to your
local member Hospitals of Children's Miracle Network. Hospitals Blizzard are
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Speaker 2 (37:03):
DQ.

Speaker 5 (37:04):
Happy taste good Coming up next here we are going
to close up shop with lee to lapse thick tongue
ass right here on FSR.

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Speaker 3 (38:05):
These might smell a little fun cake what that sounds incredible,
but they're still good.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Time to find out what slack.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
It's Lee's lap Joe verbs All.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Right, Lee, what have we got.

Speaker 8 (38:17):
Well, guys, a little game of liquor store roulette. If
you are familiar with the name brands of Celsius and
or high Noon, you might know what I'm talking about here.
High Noon, of course, is a vodka seltzer many different flavors,
and Celsius is more of an energy drink.

Speaker 6 (38:33):
Well, a recall notices out because.

Speaker 8 (38:35):
Apparently high Noon says that an unspocified number of its
beach variety pack contained cans. Uh sorry, if it's beach
variety packs contained cans are filled with high Noon vodka
Seltzer alcohol has been mislabeled as Celsius astro Vibe energy drink.
So yeah, if you're trying to drink some sparkling blue
raz addition of Celsius, you might be getting a little

(38:57):
bit of a vodka seltzer and you drink, uh, which
you know I'm not going to complain that it's free free.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Additionally, we're gonna buy a bunch of Celsius today, I
do it.

Speaker 6 (39:07):
Celsius is one of my go tos at the liquor store.

Speaker 4 (39:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (39:10):
Absolutely, It's good and a good energy drink.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
Now for multiple reasons.

Speaker 5 (39:14):
Yes, I mean, h lvar, you were piping down from Celsius.

Speaker 4 (39:18):
Oh, I drink Celsius.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Worried you're worried maybe there's some booze in that.

Speaker 4 (39:23):
I wouldn't be worried about it. I just you know,
I would recognize the difference and taste. Obviously it will happen,
by the way, I wouldn't panic.

Speaker 6 (39:32):
So they were they were sense it's a cannon company. Yeah,
it's a cannon company.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
They were.

Speaker 6 (39:37):
The products were shipped. Let's see here they can Yeah,
anyway they recalled.

Speaker 8 (39:40):
Was initiated after Henun discovered that a shared packaging supplier
mistakenly shipped empty Celsius cans to he Noon.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
Just so you know, like Coca Cola when they ship
out their product that it's a syrup. So they're shipping
out their syrup that then gets mixed in a bottling plant,
either glass or aluminum bottles. That's where the mix is
actually ate into the drink that you consume. So in
this case, it's a it's a similar bottling company for
the you know, same aluminum size can.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
It just ones an.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
Energy drink and ones an alcoholic beverage. And clearly they
got you know, confused in regards to the labeling once
they were bottled?

Speaker 2 (40:17):
How did they figure out this was an issue?

Speaker 4 (40:20):
Like?

Speaker 5 (40:21):
Who, uh, who was drinking while at work and their
boss all of a sudden smelled booze on their breath?

Speaker 2 (40:26):
What happened was there?

Speaker 1 (40:27):
What's interesting is like the process like they had, like
what alcoholic beverages on the same line as like energy drinks?
You know, I'm saying like they were probably just like
blank cans getting labeled until.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Then then they're like, wait a second, old uh, Fred
over here messed up on the assembly line. It's like
making a case for robots taking over.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
By the way, Ah, that's too bad, Just saying, can
you imagine like a kid, you know, popping a couple
of those and you don't think he's gonna energy drink?

Speaker 2 (40:56):
Memeh? Also a nice little buzz working. Anybody named their
kid Fred anymore? Uh? That feels like a name that's.

Speaker 5 (41:02):
Kind of long gone Frederick. I don't know, it seems
it's kind of a no longer.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Here's good, good question? Yeah, Lee?

Speaker 6 (41:10):
What else? Nothing else today? Fellas? I'll save it for tomorrow.
Did he update tomorrow about that?

Speaker 2 (41:17):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (41:17):
No,
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