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August 4, 2025 40 mins

A Special Monday appearance from The Old P, Petros Papadakis to talk USC projections and history lessons. Micah Parsons airs frustration but still shows up to camp. Plus, Serial butt-sniffers and much more!

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(00:56):
Monday appearance.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Here.

Speaker 4 (00:59):
He's the one and only Petros Papadakis. He is the
co host of the Petros and Money Show, which you
can hear on the Blowtorch and five seventy l a
sports a Fox college football analyst. You can get him
on X at the old p Petro's good morning.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello, I'm here nice.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
How was your weekend? That was all right?

Speaker 2 (01:27):
I don't know, Like what am I? What you do?

Speaker 5 (01:30):
Petros? You followed the w n b A for a
long time? Do they have love a dildo throwing epidemic?

Speaker 3 (01:36):
Like what's happening? Like, wow, it's happening, you know earlier years.

Speaker 6 (01:40):
It's not cool anymore. I mean the first dildo okay,
you know the second one? Yeah, but now what has
it been three?

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Has it? I thought it was just two.

Speaker 6 (01:51):
I thought it was just two and two and one
arrest right on? That's what supposed Yeah, I mean that's
a lot, you know. I mean, they shouldn't throw stuff.
They're athletes competing. You can't throw hard objects onto the court,
no matter how funny it is. It's not okay, we
can't have it. We're going to hurt one of those people.

(02:12):
So it's not it's not right, it's not right.

Speaker 7 (02:15):
What's been a report you've heard out of us He's
training camp so far, I've seen eighteen is up for
the buckets and you know, the linebacker, the six foot
who the six foot ten lines.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Everyone up for the buckets at this point.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah, I mean, I'm up. Anybody who's gonna play? Is it?
Did you win the buck gets?

Speaker 3 (02:35):
I did?

Speaker 2 (02:36):
That's pretty sweet.

Speaker 6 (02:37):
You know, I played football with a Buttess Award winner
and I was proud of that Clay the year before
I got it. Yeah, Chris Claiborne. So very exciting award
and a great award. But we cannot give.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
It out about Gentry.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah, yeah, oh the tall guy.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Yeah, that's all he's like, yeah, nine.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
He's been great.

Speaker 6 (02:55):
I think he transferred from Arizona State, Okay, and he's
it's been great when he plays, and he's fallen out
of favor with some of their defensive coaches. USC has
a really great defensive coordinator in Deanton Lynn, and I
think that he's a future head coach. I don't know

(03:16):
if he's going to be able to help Lincoln, who's
on a really, really hot seat. But I think most
people understand that Lincoln Riley, if it wasn't for the
buyout that he had, he'd even fired after the last
couple of years of performances. So it's a very interesting
year at USC. There's no real buzz about what the

(03:39):
season is going to be like. And one thing that
bothers me a lot when it comes to college football,
and this happened under Sark when he was flailing at
USC and Lane Kiffen, who eventually was fired on a tarmac.
That's another stupid thing that didn't have to happen that
created I mean, you could fire Lane Kiffin, but why

(04:02):
create this whole mythology about getting fired on a tarmac
for everybody from this point onward in college football.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
That's a big USC stigma.

Speaker 6 (04:12):
Why because one of these donors wanted Lane Kiffin fired
on that tarmac and Pat Hayden went ahead.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
And did it.

Speaker 6 (04:19):
But what people did or said when it came to
those guys, and I know you guys have all heard
about this where they're like, well, look we got to
fire our head coach. And then all these people go,
but what about the recruiting class? It's like what you know,
it's like with Kiffin. You know, they were like, well
we got to fire this guy. You know, they just
lost a game by fifty points. What about the recruiting wha.

Speaker 5 (04:41):
I mean Petros, Petros see it from their side when
you're paying these kids back then illegally, it's like, well,
they want to make sure that money goes the right spot.
They will waste all their money and giving it these kids.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
But you could still pay me illegally.

Speaker 6 (04:53):
Just fire the damned coach and you can still pay
losing them, I understand. But because you have a recruiting
class that may or may not come where four or
five guys may contribute in the next year, and who
knows what that number is now because of the way
the transfer portal is and how everybody wants a more
veteran team, and going the high school route takes a

(05:16):
lot of patients from your fan base, patients that the
USC fan base does not have. I just don't know
how anybody's recruiting class in the future should ever help
them when they go five hundred in a blue blood
place or a wanna.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Be blue blood place like USC. So we'll see what happens.

Speaker 6 (05:38):
But when USC has a slow start or whatever, I
think they start the year out with like Missouri State
or something like that. But when or if USC starts
losing big ten games, you're gonna hear that. People are
gonna say, well, we should fire Lincoln Riley, and somebody's gonna.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Say, what about the recruiting club?

Speaker 5 (05:57):
Hey, well, the good thing is sounds like they're getting this.
Notre Dame USC rivalry figured out. I think Pete Bovaco
came out and recently said, Hey, they'd be opened to
do it even week one. Yeah, I'm I guess the
balls in Southern Cal's court at this point.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
I guess.

Speaker 6 (06:14):
I mean they should have never They should not have
been a question whatsoever. It should not have been even
teased that they would change the time of year, because
the time of year for the opposite years between October
and late November.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
At Notre Dame and at USC, respectively.

Speaker 6 (06:39):
They should have never even talked about that how it
should be changed, that it should be changed. The fact
that it was ever even a topic and that anybody
ever brought it up was asinine. And then all of
a sudden, it's something that you're going to be asked
about every time you're in public because Lincoln Riley has
sent mixed messages. Lincoln Riley said the stupidest thing I've
ever heard at the Big ten media day when you

(07:00):
guys were there, and he in an attempt to walk
it back. No, well, I mean, in an attempt to
walk back the whole the whole thing, he was like, well,
we got I came here because we're going to play
Notre Name and that's why, you know, before I took
the job, that's what I thought about. But I'll always
do what's best for USC. Yeah, what's best for USC

(07:22):
is for you to resign. You're not gonna do that,
you know, I mean, don't sit there and say that,
you know, I mean, just say say what you really mean.
I don't want to play the rivalry because I'm soft,
but I've gotten so much pushback about it that I'm
going to try to walk this back and get out
of it. And the fact that jen Co and the
USC Athletic director hasn't said anything about it probably lets

(07:45):
you know, not really publicly, probably lets you know that
she was disappointed that Lincoln Riley opened his mouth in
the first place about it, and now they've tried to
walk it back and seem like they're on the same page,
and they're not. Lincoln Riley has as if he has

(08:08):
a choice, has tried to manipulate USC schedule and get
rid of the rope Notre Dame rivalry or at least
bring questions up about it, which is criminal.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
He should have never brought it up. I don't care
if he's even.

Speaker 6 (08:21):
Even if he's won eleven games the last four years
that he's been there.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
He shouldn't bring it up. He should never bring it up.

Speaker 6 (08:28):
If you coach USC, you played Notre Dame when US
he plays Notre Dame, and you should shut your mouth
about it. And anybody that says anything else about it
is a soft crumb coward. And I can't take it,
and I won't. I won't discuss it as when the
season starts, I will not discuss it anymore.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
So well, I'm curious though from usually out here, the
fanboys and fangirls in the media don't really want to.

Speaker 8 (08:52):
Be critical of the local teams.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
They just don't.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yeah, it's a toothless media.

Speaker 6 (08:57):
When the Seattle media is tougher than LA, have a
real problem.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
And so you and Scott Wolf are basically the only
two that are willing to call out USC for their craft.

Speaker 8 (09:08):
We have fine bab well yeah you mean locally, yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
Locally, and Colin Coward too.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
It's true, it's true, you know, but what sort of
feedback do you get from people either in and around
the program?

Speaker 8 (09:25):
Are you ostracized? Are you is it?

Speaker 4 (09:27):
Just don't even we don't even address that anymore, even
though you postracize. Yeah, I mean, are you like, what
sort of feedback do you get from people in and
around the program? If you guys are always so hard
in the paint about all the flaws that USC has.

Speaker 6 (09:42):
Well, I've told the truth about it for a long time,
and it's not like I was wrong. Us see, after
Pete Carroll and his uh what Pete Carroll did and
how he did it, and the arrogant way in which
it was handled and the fact that his superiors allowed

(10:02):
it to happen crippled generations of USC football, the sanctions
and all that, and then who they hired to pull
them out of it, which were Pete Carroll's old proxies
Kiffen and Sarkisian, and then ending up hiring Clay Helton,
and the way that they've had athletic directors work not

(10:26):
real administrators. The one administrator that they ended up hiring,
a guy named Mike Bone, seemed like he had a
head injury the whole time he was there. You don't
even know, Yeah, I acted like a complete weird jackass,
just was like a caricature of a blowhard old athletic director.
Which was really sad because I was just happy that

(10:47):
it wasn't an ex USC football player that they hired,
and now they actually have a real administrator in Jen Cohen.
But it's a real tsunami of no I'm sorry about
the well, I guess the tsunami didn't really send anybody
too much, so maybe in Russia, but it was a
real tsudami of bad stuff that she's got to deal with,

(11:08):
and a lot of modern college football stuff, modern athletic
department stuff that USC is just they don't They just
don't seem ready for the twenty first century.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
They were barely ready for things to change.

Speaker 6 (11:24):
The last few times in college football, they've not been
ahead of the crest of the wave like a lot
of programs like Michigan, Ohio State, Alabama, LSU, people that
are comparable. USC just hasn't been there like that. And
I don't know if it's going to happen anytime soon.
They have this Lake A Riley contract, maybe this guy
wins the buck gist, but other than that, I don't think.

(11:46):
I don't know how much we're going to be talking
about it as far as relevant college football as the
year goes on.

Speaker 7 (11:51):
You got a kid by the name of Tamir Robinson
from our school, from Penn State. That's a linebacker. Keep
an eye out for him. Kid is super athletic, special kid.
He was he was under you know, he got ill
at Penn State last year, but he actually transferred to USC.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
I didn't like it, but kick and ball, So.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
I'm sorry that he transferred.

Speaker 7 (12:14):
Yeah, I didn't like that he left us to especially
to come to to a Big ten school, but that
is what it is.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
But let me ask you this. You you talked about
just kind.

Speaker 7 (12:23):
Of like like that momentum isn't there for USC.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
But what about the recruits?

Speaker 7 (12:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (12:29):
And the recruits.

Speaker 7 (12:31):
I mean, we just saw Trey Lance have a good,
a good preseason game. I really believe Harball is going
to have the Chargers ball in this year. And then
you got Sam or excuse me, Matthew Stafford.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
His back is sore. You think this could be a
Chargers year in LA.

Speaker 6 (12:50):
That's a great question. Everybody says that every year. And
I'll be a Chargers camp today.

Speaker 7 (12:56):
Hell yeah, Okay, Actually so I'll let you know, tell them,
you know, after I saw by the way, I will, yeah,
please do.

Speaker 6 (13:04):
After I survey them in camp LeVar, I'll be able
to tell you whether or not it's you know, I
really will watch practice and make sure they're doing karaoke
correctly and that he'll be able to say, Okay, you know,
this is the Chargers year. But it's kind of funny
whether it's their year or not. I mean, last year
they looked a lot different than they had in the

(13:26):
regular season, and then they go to the playoffs and
and lose horribly. What was it to Houston and kind
of look exactly like the Chargers look every year in
the playoffs, So that was that was disappointing. It's kind
of funny because Jim Harbaugh, he's such a football institution,
and I don't know how you guys feel about him

(13:47):
because both of you have Big ten kind of backgrounds
where you play Michigan and they're more of a rival,
and you're big noon and all that. So Brady's there
all the time. But I mean I covered Harbaugh when
he was at Stanford a lot and got to know
him there. I even got to know him when he
was down at USD. And it's funny. It's like you'd

(14:09):
think that Harball, not that the Chargers are good or
bad or anything, but you'd think that Harball was like
gonna make the Chargers cool. And it's almost like the
Chargers made him a dork, you know.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
What I mean.

Speaker 6 (14:23):
Sure, it's just kind of funny to see him in
a Charger gear and just being, you know, doing all
his Harball stuff. Like it's still kind of surreal to
me that he's he's with the Chargers. He's a great
football coach and his teams have always responded really well
to him, and he's been able to build teams everywhere
he's gone. So to say that they're not going to

(14:44):
have success would be naive. But it is just kind
of funny the way, like just seeing Harball around La
like eating cheetos at like little league games, and he's
just like he's like here, and and it's just it's
still kind of surren ill to me. And last year
the proof was in the putting. The regular season was
so much better. They were such a physical team and

(15:06):
all that, and it was just year one. So yeah,
I would expect them to get better. I think one
of their best defenders got popped for having a bunch
of guns in his car, right, Harryman, he was on
his way to the shooting range.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
But oh, okay, yeah, but he had.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
A bunch of illegal guns, I believe. So what am
I wrong? No?

Speaker 6 (15:31):
I didn't hear that up in camp? Should I not
play all the wow?

Speaker 3 (15:38):
I recall seeing something about that.

Speaker 5 (15:40):
I don't recall about his explanation was going to the
gun range, although everyone probably should have that as their explanation.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Wasn't he headed out to the gun range.

Speaker 6 (15:48):
I don't know a lot of people, like a lot
of people in California like to go out to the
middle I mean, we have a lot of middle of
the nowhere kind of places in California and the further.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
East you go, uh and uh.

Speaker 6 (16:01):
A lot of people like to go out in the
middle of nowhere and shoot off guns.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
I know a lot of them.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
I bought a house just for that, to be able
to do just that.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
I did not know that.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
Yeah, I like, really, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (16:14):
You bought a house just to shoot guns. Well, I
mean it was my house around the house, it was
my house. It was my house. It was like forty
eight acres and so.

Speaker 6 (16:24):
What like instead of turning off the light with your hand,
you just shot shot it out.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
No, no, not not like that.

Speaker 5 (16:31):
But it was this in California back then Maryland, Maryland.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
It was just a place with the koy pon. Yeah,
who is your neighbor?

Speaker 8 (16:37):
I claim?

Speaker 3 (16:39):
Yeah? Did you ever tell Patres about the coy pon situation?
I don't like talking about it. You love, I know,
but it's actually really good.

Speaker 7 (16:46):
Still love my misery of my like like John No
and Juju and and and creamy and and orange and
those yeah, all of.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
Them, man like they all that good point called black.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yeah, you killed your fish.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
I didn't kill them, Petros, I did not. They didn't.
They perished.

Speaker 7 (17:09):
We had that big storm, you remember that great storm
that came through, the hurricane that came through like it
was like a hurricane slash blizzard that.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
Came through down like a tornado like sharknado.

Speaker 7 (17:22):
Our power went out and my generator only lasted for
like it was like maybe five days before the It
was something crazy, but we did. We were out of
power for like seven days. It was like a long
ad sign with no power. And my fish started going

(17:44):
belly up, like the second day with no power. And
next thing, you know, they were in like a pond. Yeah,
they're in a pond indoors, so it has to be
the water has to be circulating or they lose the ox.
And then one thing leads to another and they and
I mean they were big. I raised them from babies.

(18:05):
They were little baby coys, and they were really really big,
like like probably like the length of your arm, like
really big.

Speaker 6 (18:14):
Well, it reminds me of a few things. Chris wember Positive, Right,
you used to have a lake in the back of
his house in the Atlanta area, and he would have
it stocked with fish and he would go out and
fish on it. Oh sweet, yeah, right Troutdale, Right, So
that's you know, that makes me think of that. And
then I thought of LeVar just out there shooting at

(18:34):
his fish, which you'd never do.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
No, since you raised them.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
I wouldn't be shooting at my fish. But the way
my probably you.

Speaker 5 (18:41):
Were gone and you came back to the house. No,
you found him that way we were in there.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
You just slowly watch them.

Speaker 7 (18:47):
I watched them like I had to like live through
watching and do anything.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
Yeah, I thought you should, I thought, I thought, why
did you guys create that.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
I swear I thought that was the story that you
walked in the house and the smell, and they were all, yeah,
the smell, that's what you told us initially.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
The other thing is like a lot of show up.

Speaker 7 (19:05):
I was there, We were there. We were stranded in
a storm, we were snowed in.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
It was a storm.

Speaker 5 (19:11):
You could consider this LeVar, because I mean I might
have walked in from a different room. I mean it
was twenty twenty thousand square foot home.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
In Orange County.

Speaker 6 (19:20):
For a time, everybody got like coyfish tattoos. Yeah, yeah
they did. Yeah, a lot of people had coyfish tattoos.
Maybe in Memoriam. I don't know how it.

Speaker 8 (19:30):
Uh, what was that about?

Speaker 3 (19:31):
Maybe, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (19:32):
It was like a white guy flat bail, like fox racing,
like monster energy thing. Yeah, those things. Those guys came
with a lot of coyfish. And every once in a while,
like mister choose Asian restaurant or something and Bakersfield will
be robbed of their cooyfish. I'm glad you brought some,
you know what I mean. People do like to steal coyfish.

Speaker 7 (19:51):
Hey, Petros, was I wrong for saying that Confederate flags
are related to NASCAR events. You got the General Lee, right,
I mean, but is that wrong, Like I'm saying, you
go to a NASCAR event, Confederate flags are part of
NASCAR events. That might have banned them, but that's still

(20:12):
that doesn't mean that they don't want to have them.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (20:15):
I mean, the Confederate flag is interest. I mean, it
represents a lot of different things, just a lot of
different people. YEA one interesting fact about the Confederate flag.
I believe it was was designed by Beauregard, who was
a Creole general for the for the Confederates.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
He was in Charleston. He made some mistakes, but he.

Speaker 6 (20:40):
Was he was in pretty well, he did, yeah, but
he was a pretty he was a pretty famous general
in his time. And they the first flag they designed
for the Confederacy looked too much like the American flag
or the Union flag, and so the Confederate battle flag
looked a lot like and it was confusing in the

(21:01):
early parts of the Civil War, and there was a
lot of confusion anyway, if you can imagine.

Speaker 7 (21:08):
How loud all that, well, they were fighting over confusion, right, Well, I.

Speaker 6 (21:11):
Mean there's a lot of I mean, if you can
imagine like thirty thousand men in either army attacking each
other in like a giant field.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
You're like, wait, there's our flag.

Speaker 6 (21:21):
Wait right there, smoke and there's like, you know, one
of the most I think the most famous Confederate general
of the MA all other than Lee, which would be
Stonewall Jackson. He died from friendly fire in the Civil War.
Because there was a lot of confusion. So the first
Confederate flag looked a little bit too much like the

(21:42):
other one. So then the stars and bars he designed
and they were they're more distinctive. And I mean I
come from a time where you know, if we had
an old ligneman that was a white guy who was
from you know, the South, well not even the South,
just inland like Norco. You know, they'd put a flag

(22:04):
up and listen to country music and stuff like that.
I don't know if they really had a perspective on
what it meant or not meant. But as far as
being involved with Nascar, I mean, the origin of NASCAR
is bootlegging, yep, so, which would be like souping up
your car to outrun the cops. Cops on Southern roads

(22:29):
to run moonshine or whiskey or whatever. And so it's
kind of got an outlaw sort of vibe and a
background and definitely a Southern background. So if it's a
Southern outlaw background, yeah, I would say.

Speaker 7 (22:46):
Which is interesting because again, like the educational point there
to that is black dudes was bootlegging too, Black and
white people were bootlegging. It was all about the corn liquor.
It was about that that shine. It was about getting
that that you know, getting that liquor to where it
needed to get to, you know, and you get your

(23:07):
money if you got it there. Yes, so it was
it was beyond. It was green. That was the color.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
It wasn't, you know, bootleggers.

Speaker 6 (23:15):
I would say, I mean if LaVar had to uh
if if if LeVar, if you if you had to
be labor the point, you would say that you'd be
most likely to see a Confederate flag in a masscar event,
I mean perhaps more than an F one or an
indie event.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
Thank you, thank you. Yeah, that's fair.

Speaker 6 (23:35):
Like I don't see all the backs were stopping Dutch
fans yea, waving around the stars and bars and talking
about you know, the lost Cause theory that's correct.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
That is that is an accurate statement there, sir.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
But you look up.

Speaker 6 (23:48):
Beauregard and they called him because he was creole. They
called him the black General. So he was like, shup, perhaps,
uh this flag will be better.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
So after this war, we need to go get us
home some babe.

Speaker 8 (24:05):
By the way, New Orleans.

Speaker 4 (24:08):
For a time, you mentioned Stonewall Jackson, if I have
this correct, I think he was one of the I
think he invented the cold shower, the cold tub treatment.
That guy used to in the dead of winter take
cold showers to get ready for battle.

Speaker 6 (24:21):
Stonewall was an interesting guy, a very very religious, almost
like a zelot, and he was a He was an
artillery instructor at vm I, so.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Once.

Speaker 6 (24:38):
I think they up until maybe ten years ago, they
still had his two cannons. I think they're biblically named
there displayed. I think they still might be. But they
still have some Stonewall Jackson stuff at vm I, and
I think his house is a museum.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
Interesting.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
See this is the you know nothing Petro's doesn't that?

Speaker 8 (25:03):
Uh, Petra, we appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
I know who's gonna win the butters.

Speaker 4 (25:10):
On get him on X at the old p and
we will do it again next week. There he is
all the great Petros Papadeka is with us here on
Fox Sports Radio. It is Two Pros and a Cup
of Joe here on FSR. Coming up next, somebody has
managed to drag music, the movies and everything in between

(25:32):
into a story in the NFL. We'll get into that
for you right here on FSR.

Speaker 9 (25:37):
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Speaker 4 (25:51):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming
up in we'll call it about fifty team minute from now,
we are going to have another edition of Lee's Leftovers.
So so that'll be yours here on FSR. But the
weren't we kicking around or Brady, you threw out the

(26:11):
idea of Lee doing a movie review? Is that like
a dedicated each Monday or something like that.

Speaker 5 (26:17):
Try to do that because we figured Lee most likely
sees I don't know, maybe a movie a weekend or
something along those lines. But it's hard sometimes to get
Lee to get on track for some of that. But
I believe he saw a movie this this weekend.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
Is that right, Lee? Oh you bet you? Oh, you
bet you? It was Naked Gun?

Speaker 2 (26:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (26:35):
Oh nice, was awesome.

Speaker 4 (26:36):
I called Lee on Friday after he had gotten out
of the movie and you were blistered?

Speaker 6 (26:42):
Was I?

Speaker 4 (26:43):
Yes, you were? I could tell. And it was literally
like three or four in the afternoon. Well it's Friday, Yeah,
I mean it's the weekend it started, so we're good. Yeah,
you didn't answer, and you call me right back. I
was like, oh, yeah, he's been uh, he's been getting
after it. So man, maybe we'll get a decent review

(27:07):
of the Naked Gun or whatever it was.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
He passed out and doesn't remember any of it. Well,
I remember most of it.

Speaker 7 (27:16):
That all sounds like most homeless people that are all
the way in on being homeless. What you just said
is exactly what I've heard them say.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
Say it again one more time. Most of it you remember,
But no, I remember the movie. Oh now you remember.

Speaker 7 (27:33):
See, look that pressure got applied. You felt the pressure. Yeah,
now you gave in to the pressure.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
Okay, So we were discussing earlier the Micah Parsons Jerry
Jones back and forth, and Jerry Jones trying to explain
the negotiations back in March, et cetera, et cetera. One
of the interesting angles of this Brady had mentioned briefly
when we opened up the show was that all of

(27:59):
a sudden, out of nowhere, Des Bryant interjected himself into
the conversation and had some comments supporting Michael Parsons and
saying what you're doing is huge, it's big, etc.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
Etc.

Speaker 4 (28:13):
And then you know, Jerry Jones was asked about why
he was having conversations with just Michael Parsons and not
his agent back in March, and he decided to bring in.

Speaker 8 (28:25):
Those previous negotiations and jay Z and everything that came
along with it.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
And here's how it sounded.

Speaker 10 (28:32):
When we have a problem within the team and a player,
I don't ever find the agent. He's nowhere to be found.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
Jay Z said that.

Speaker 10 (28:41):
Michael would make all I'm not Michael, but that Des
would make all meetings. Jay Z and I negotiated the contract.
We spent hours negotiating the contract. Jay Z and he
said to anybody in my organization his own time. He said,
my office used to be on the street corner, and
I've always been early, so they will your own time.
I said, what, I sign it, but I'm gonna call

(29:02):
you finally quit taking my call.

Speaker 7 (29:05):
So my office has always been on the street corners
jabling them.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
Jay Z's agency issued a statement calling calling Jerry Jones's
comments comical quote. In twenty fifteen, at the twenty one
Club on an appkin, Jerry Jones, Juan Perez, Sean j
Z Carter and Stephen Jones negotiated a.

Speaker 8 (29:30):
Five year, seventy million dollar deal which.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
Included a forty five million dollar guarantee and a twenty
million dollars signing bonus for des Bryant. At the time,
it was the second largest contract for a wide receiver
in NFL history. The claim that mister Carter or Rock
Nation representatives did not return a call from Jerry Jones
is not only a false statement, but it's also a
comical one. So he's managed to now incorporate jay Z

(29:54):
des Bryant back into the mix, and this whole thing
has taking a turn.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
There up an auxnar and so.

Speaker 7 (30:00):
Can I ask a question if where we're at right
now and all of the back and forth, and listen
whether it is par for the course, standard for protocol
and procedure of how they do major contracts in Dallas
or not. Michael Parsons is holding in he's not at home,

(30:22):
he has he's does it beg the question if if
this is as dire a situations as it may be,
If it's if if Micah doesn't want to be there
anymore and it doesn't seem to be any any contract looming.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Shouldn't he leave?

Speaker 7 (30:43):
Like That's how I was just kind of thinking about,
like during the show, and like I keep seeing it
pop up on the television. It's like they're having the
conversations about this. Everybody's talking about it. He's come out
and said he doesn't want to play for Dallas anymore
based upon how to have been handled. But in the
next you know, they're showing b roll of him holding

(31:04):
tackling dummies and standing there with his uniform on and
all kinds of differ.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
Shouldn't he leave? Shouldn't he remove himself from the premises?
If this is where you're at, and the negotiations or
lack thereof, And then you're subject to fines, so you know,
gotta deal with that.

Speaker 7 (31:23):
Yeah, but I mean with the effectiveness of saying like,
I mean business like, Okay, I'm I'm going to get
the fines, but if you're going to get the contract
that you're seeking, you should be good on the fines
anyway on the other side of it, or you get
traded and you should be good on the fines on

(31:43):
the other side. Should he be there and his finds
big enough for him to be there versus not being
there to try to get this done, what's the.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
Fifty thousand a day? I believe at least that's what
it was for trade Henderson.

Speaker 5 (31:59):
Yeah, I mean, look, my stance has always been the
only thing you can.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
Really do or you have leverage as a player, is
to not be present.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
That's really the only thing you can do.

Speaker 5 (32:11):
And whether or not that's an effective strategy, again, it's
tough because you're not just working against Jerry Jones and
the Dallas Cowboys you alluded to this earlier. You're working
against the collusion of all thirty two NFL teams and
thirty one owners in the Green Bay Packers, And that's
the difficulty is It used to become common practice for

(32:31):
guys to hold out and important because again, that's the
best leverage you have is let that team see what
life's like without their star player, without that difference maker,
and you're not gonna show up until they pertract that
you think you deserve, or whatever the case is. The
problem is there's so many teams that used to implement
those fines and then then when the guy would come back,

(32:53):
they'd wipe them away. All right, let's do a new deal.
Here's your new deal. We're not gonna find you. We're
gonna wipe it. We'll wipe that clean. Now, a lot
of these teams still saying, all right, we're gonna pay
you that, but you get to pay back, you know,
a million in fines, right or whatever whatever the number is.
So sometimes they'll still play nice and they'll come back
and they'll wipe away those fines. But that's becoming more

(33:14):
of a real possibility as guys decide to not be
at the facility and miss time to try to get
a new deal.

Speaker 7 (33:24):
I just feel like, where you're at right now, your
best recourse would not be like they showed.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
They showed.

Speaker 7 (33:34):
Content of you know, oh, Stephen Jones and Michael Parsons
clearly on on different pages.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
As Micah is walking past Steve.

Speaker 7 (33:44):
Jones, Steve Jones is chumming it up with somebody on
the sideline. Michael Parsons, it makes it very awkward listen,
and maybe that is what he wants to do. Maybe
he's okay with making them feel awkward. I'm gonna be here,
I'm I'm gonna support my teammates. I'm not going anywhere.
I just want to get my contract done. But I

(34:04):
almost feel like if that's the case, then that sends
a mixed signal, and the mixed signal being now you
have come out and you've said I no longer want.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
To be a Dallas cowboy if you.

Speaker 7 (34:16):
Don't want to pay me, I do not want to
be a Dallas cowboy anymore. Once he made that statement,
I almost feel like that's the time where you got
to like pack your stuff up, pack my locker up,
you know, and take the walk and not come back
until something is done.

Speaker 4 (34:32):
Maybe you like Socksnard, you know, a lot less humid
and back in Texas.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
Okay, well it's right.

Speaker 7 (34:40):
Near the I mean, for what it's worth, you don't
have to go. You could start packing up in Texas too, right,
you go ahead and just hang out in Oxnard.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
Then if you like Oxnard, vent County, come this.

Speaker 7 (34:51):
Way to la You can hang wherever you want to
hang because you don't have a team.

Speaker 8 (34:56):
Vent Urre County fairs up right now, Maybe you want
to hang out.

Speaker 7 (34:59):
And go to that strawberries are in season, right, Yeah, there.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
You go, Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
Oxnard has been on the news recently for for what,
you know, what's going on?

Speaker 3 (35:10):
Some dust ups in the fields over there, two dust ups.

Speaker 8 (35:12):
Yeah, but uh, you know, I don't want to go there.

Speaker 4 (35:16):
It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe on
Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you.
We are going to close up shop next here with
another edition of Lee's Leftovers.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
Here on FSR.

Speaker 9 (35:28):
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Speaker 4 (35:38):
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LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. We're
going to be back on the air tomorrow, same time,
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(36:01):
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Speaker 9 (36:16):
These might smell a little fun, ca what is that?
Sounds incredible, but they're still good.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
Time to find out what's last?

Speaker 2 (36:24):
It's Lee's laughs, all.

Speaker 8 (36:26):
Right to laugh? What we got?

Speaker 10 (36:27):
So?

Speaker 11 (36:27):
Yeah, as we discussed, I did see Naked Gun this
weekend ninety percent on Rotten Tomato. Him and Liam Neeson
that is playing Frank Drebn alongside Pamela Anderson. Now they
are a real couple in real life. It was an
excellent satirical spoof. I recommend it highly. Go see it,
go see today.

Speaker 7 (36:43):
That would explain why they're so like Buddy Buddy in
front of the camera.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
Yeah, I did not realize that.

Speaker 11 (36:48):
I believe they met on set and now we're official
what and love?

Speaker 3 (36:53):
They're in love. Nice.

Speaker 8 (36:55):
So she's going no makeup, no, just doing all that.

Speaker 11 (36:58):
She's having a new, uh revamped career.

Speaker 5 (37:01):
Yeah she looks good for Yeah, she's great.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
Good for her, she looks el matre.

Speaker 11 (37:07):
Absolutely, guys, something that's going on here in La. I'm
mary kay to look out for.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
This.

Speaker 11 (37:15):
Courtesy of ABC Los Angeles. Somebody is uh is harassing
women in my neighborhood. Take a listen to ABC seven's
Woody sniff.

Speaker 12 (37:23):
It kept following, so I recorded just in case he
was trying to say anything or do anything to me.
But I definitely didn't expect him to do this, like
what the action pretending to be like, crouching down by
a bookshelf and then coming behind me smelling me. And
he does the same thing to another girl in the
video as well. I was so freaked out when I
turned around and saw him literally under me, so freaking

(37:44):
close to me. At least his name is out there,
his face is out there, so people can be aware
and cautious.

Speaker 11 (37:50):
Yeah, cereal butt sniffer in California.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
He does got arrested again. Yep, he can't.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
I can't.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
They can't control himself from getting close to button.

Speaker 8 (37:59):
Guy can't drop it them. Guy can't drop his keys
and pick him up without being arrested.

Speaker 5 (38:03):
What is wrong with you guys? Like, what is wrong
with you all out there on the West Coast? Don't
say you got sniffers. I've heard of brown nosers.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
I heard of that, but I.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
Mean that's his term that's been around along time. This
is a little bit too literal. It's too literal.

Speaker 8 (38:18):
You want to you want to you want to hear
this issue? Have him come smell Lee's chair.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
Ew just have them come smell lea period.

Speaker 6 (38:27):
Damn.

Speaker 7 (38:27):
I mean you know that should be his punishment, like
like sentenced to twenty years of smelling the most like horrid.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
Crack in the world.

Speaker 7 (38:42):
You want you want to sniff? You want to sniff
these all? Right, here's the one You're going to sniff
for twenty years. There you go, solve that problem.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
Damn, I got you.

Speaker 7 (38:52):
They showed him in like Barns and Nobles and all
that stuff, like it was crazy, man, Is that.

Speaker 5 (38:58):
Like the prime real estate to smell butts born and Noble?

Speaker 3 (39:02):
You gotta nael down to get books that you could
go to a grocery store or anywhere.

Speaker 4 (39:08):
Grocery store, you know, the like the paper, it probably has.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
A yoga studio would be really good if you want
to be You can't get away with that. Everyone's be
doing yoga, Like, dude, what are you doing? Think about
the bookstore. Somebody's there reading, so they're going to be
there for prolonged But I'm with Loraina.

Speaker 7 (39:25):
If you move your yoga matt close to somebody.

Speaker 5 (39:29):
Else's, that's only one butt.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
You can't be, you know, smelling multiple.

Speaker 4 (39:34):
Every day you go, you go to a yoga salon
or whatever they're called a yoga studio, they're gonna smell
like Levar's koy pond.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
Like that's not nobody will I. We don't know what
his preference is. He might like that musty smell, that
towardy smell, that salty yeah that I worked out.

Speaker 8 (39:56):
Oh god, and this is your neighborhood.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
Yeah, that's where I go to go see the movies
right there and the parts of no one's hamsy about that.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
Is his name, Todd. Do we know this guy? Damn
dang
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