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August 26, 2025 40 mins

What does raise for Trey Hendrickson mean for the future of Micah Parsons. LaVar needs a knee drain. Analyst for CBSSports, Pete Prisco is right when he says, “They all show up and play.” Plus, Lee’s Leftovers.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (01:16):
Now coming up in about.

Speaker 6 (01:19):
I don't know, well, depending on how we're operating, we're
hoping fifteen to twenty minutes from now, Pete Prisco's going
to stop by, and Pete Prisco is going to take
a couple of victory laps.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
He's the guy who always proclaims.

Speaker 6 (01:35):
They all show up, they all come back, they all
sign the deals always get done. And one of those
deals that we talked about earlier in the show was
Trey Hendrickson. He gets a bump, a fourteen million dollar
pay bump, and so Trey Hendrickson is back for the
Cincinnati Bengals. He's apparently happy with the conclusion of this

(01:59):
whole scenario on situation.

Speaker 5 (02:02):
You think, is happy the right word? I mean, I
don't know that happy is the right word.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
I guess like he's.

Speaker 5 (02:12):
You know, he's I don't feel like happy. Is probably
slighted is the is the right word. But it is
a win, you know, it's a it's a win. I mean,
it's kind of like what happened with with Saquon with
the Giants, right, Like he wanted a new contract that
gave him like a little more guaranteed money or whatever.

(02:32):
It was like it was a slight, but it was
a win. I think that's what what Trey Hendrickson is
feeling right now. How does I mean Listen, I believe
Miles Garrett is younger than him, right, I'm pretty certain
he's younger than Trey Hendrickson. But when we did this
whole exercise with ages and is he too old or this,
that and the other, he's the same age as TJ.

(02:54):
Watt and he's been more productive than TJ Watt and
he gets what was the number, ten eleven million less
than him.

Speaker 6 (03:04):
Yeah, So this Trey Hendrickson spoke with Happy He spoke
with Jeff Hopson of the the Bengals website on Monday
and saying moving forward, we'll figure that out as it goes.
For this season to be given a raise, I didn't
necessarily have to have been given. It's a blessing to
be in the position where I've been brought up to
my peers and also being able to get after quarterbacks.

(03:27):
I love this city, and with what's happening and what's
happened in the past couple of months, I've had time
to reflect on what it means and how much I
want to stay at Bengal for the twenty twenty five season.

Speaker 5 (03:37):
So for the twenty twenty five season, happy not the
rest of my career, na' that's tongue in cheek, man,
but go ahead, go you got a cue, got to
cheek good.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
It kind of feels like, you know, you get to
a point where you're like trying to get a new
car and you're negotiating, You're like, all right, I'll just
I'll go with this. You know, like you're you're not
overly happy with the deal, but you want to get
into something. You got to It's like part of like
a necessity of life. Like I kind of feel like
that's where we're at, you know, and maybe you opt

(04:09):
just to get a lease instead of buying something, so
there's not as much of a long term commitment. It
feels similar to that situation kind of. I mean, granted,
I realize Trey Hendrickson is making millions more than what
he would have made, but it's definitely not the benchmark
of his production. Like what he's done the past two
years deserves for him to be paid like a guy

(04:31):
who's the best in the league or one of the best,
and to be ten to eleven million off. It doesn't
feel like he's in that same category as those guys,
at least not being compensated like that. I mean, take take,
for example, Terry mclaurin's deal. He's getting paid an average
annual value of thirty two million per year. We don't
have the exact details of everything else, but that puts

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him like top five of all the wide receivers. So
it's a lot closer to the other guys that he
was maybe trying to surpass or just say that, hey,
I'm able to produce like these guys. This is not
like that close. This is not in that same category.
And you know, LaVar broughtup a great point. He's the
same age as TJ. Watt, and Pittsburgh didn't have any
issues shelling out the big bucks for TJ. Watt. But again,

(05:17):
different circumstances. And you've got a guy in Shamar Stewart
who's kind of waiting the Wings to take his place.
So for Cincinnati, it makes sense you spent a first
round draft pick on the kid who's going to replace him.
You commit to the guy for an extra fourteen million
for you know, one more year. You get great value
out of that. And for Trey Hendrickson, he gets a
bit of a pay bump. It's not obviolutely what he
really ultimately wanted. But I'm sure him and his agent

(05:39):
looked at each other and like, can we get anymore? Nope,
this is it? All right, I'll get through this year
and we'll figure it out next year.

Speaker 6 (05:46):
Hendrickson's not even at Max Crosby's number, Like Max Crosby's
getting thirty five and change a year, and he's not
even there. And I just, yeah, they probably just warm out.
They just grinded him down, warm down, And he's just like, dude.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
It was Prisco. That's why I blame this song. Yeah,
this Prisco. Prisco grinded him down now, which, by the way,
you know it's wild. So Trey Hendrickson has what is
the thirty five sacks the last two years? It was
seventeen and a half each the last two seasons. Is
that the number?

Speaker 3 (06:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (06:20):
All right?

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Is that more than what Max Crosby has in the
last three years combined?

Speaker 3 (06:26):
Ooh?

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Efforting or about the same number.

Speaker 5 (06:31):
You don't have the effort When Q ask you, he
already knows the answer, Like yeah, it's like, let's not
an attorney, it's rhetorical, but it does help to.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Have Jonas then back it up and say, yeah, yeah,
I think he's got like half a sack more of
the same exact port number.

Speaker 4 (06:45):
But if he doesn't, then you shoot him down like uh,
he does.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
But the general point is like he's not even being
compensated to the likes of a guy like Max Crosby
who has not been as productive over the last three
years as he has been.

Speaker 6 (07:01):
That's correct, By the way, I can't confirm that based
on my research.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
I mean I would have done Lee, but I literally
have not seen Lee. I wouldn't do it since the
first five minutes.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
The man, why aren't you in the yard?

Speaker 4 (07:14):
That seems dangerous, Lee?

Speaker 5 (07:17):
They clean out that early, didn't even seem sending me
to stream yard video.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yeah, he's giving up on you. He's giving up.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
Come on, var get in the yard.

Speaker 4 (07:31):
I can't. There's too many of you.

Speaker 7 (07:33):
That's not true.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Oh my goodness, I just saw the picture of his knee.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Is that his knee?

Speaker 4 (07:41):
That is my knee?

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Yeah, you need to get that drain man.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
Oh, it's it's going to happen.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
You might need some some lotion too, To be honest
with you, maybe it's just the lighting.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
It's the lighting.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
Why is your left leg out of the picture.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
Because it's swollen out of the picture.

Speaker 5 (08:04):
I'm backstage, Lee, You're sitting there looking drunk as hell
while I'm backstage, like let him see me looking at
you like take being being.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
All the way fold him into the yard.

Speaker 5 (08:16):
Lee's sitting there smiling at me, not knowing that I'm
looking at his little crazy ass looking you.

Speaker 7 (08:21):
Can jumped on five seconds ago, Buddy, Yeah I did.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
Yeah, buddy, go.

Speaker 4 (08:28):
Crazy man?

Speaker 3 (08:31):
When are you getting that drain bar?

Speaker 5 (08:33):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (08:33):
Today? Doctor SeaBASS. Talk to my guy.

Speaker 5 (08:36):
He's gonna get me in after surgery. So I'm gonna
go get this thing drained up today. You know, when
you got that much fluid on your knee, it starts
to shut down your muscles and everything around it. So
you got to like or dress something like this super
quickly or you'll be looking like you like ninety years old.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
So we ain't trying to do that yet. I ain't
quite there.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
So I've never had a I've never had a knee.

Speaker 5 (08:59):
Dre You know the first time is very traumatic. After
after you get it done more than one time, it's
not as bad, but the first time they put a
gauge in your your knee. That first they numb it
because the gauge is so big that they're going to
use to to drain it. But they numb it with

(09:22):
a little needle. And then they come with a needle
that's as big as your pinky. Like if you look
at your pinky and look at the size of your
the end of your pinky or in your pants, whichever
one you want to go with, it's about that size.
And then they stick it in your knee and it's
so big you hear that the air come out of

(09:42):
your your knee.

Speaker 4 (09:43):
It goes.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
And then they done it around halftime in college.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
Did you get it done before? Oh?

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah, like the last two games of my career. So
a USC had like a sixty yard run and the
way the defender hit me and I kind of like fell,
my knee slammed down immediately swelled up. I mean it
was it was like the weirdest thing I've seen. And
so at halftime, I remember I wasn't with the offense
because they were draining it for whatever adjustments we were making.
So Charlie's like, you know, Charlie Weiser, coach was trying

(10:15):
to find me. He like pops his head and he's like, hey,
what do you He goes, oh god, He's like all right,
I'll see you on the field. It was like the
end of it. But it's it's not a not a
fun experience. It's actually wild to see though.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (10:29):
Then they put that di lot and in it, you know,
and you just feel like a new person.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Well, the best was they gave me a DonJoy with
a like, you know, tan skin color colored neoprene sleeve
for like help with compression. They're like, yeah, no one
will notice. I'm like, I'm like hobbling around, but I'm like, yeah,
no one notices that because because the neoprene sleeve boiled him.
With the gold pants and a DonJoy, Okay, it's like

(10:56):
we're really being.

Speaker 5 (10:57):
They be moving that big ass needle around your knee, man,
and I mean it the first time is just super
traumatic brouh And then to see all of the crap
that comes out.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
Yeah, so what does it look like and how much
are you filling up?

Speaker 5 (11:10):
It just depends, like you could you could make a
fake titty with with the amount of a fluid they
can pull out out of your legs sometimes, man.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
I got it, fill it up, I got it.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
What you hit the red button?

Speaker 3 (11:27):
Yeah? Why what do you mean?

Speaker 4 (11:29):
Why?

Speaker 3 (11:30):
What do you mean? You can't say that?

Speaker 4 (11:32):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (11:33):
I can, No, you cannot.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
Who told you that?

Speaker 7 (11:38):
The t I word?

Speaker 5 (11:41):
Na, you can use boob, you can use all that,
you can use those but whatever, whatever, Okay.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
What would be the better term breast?

Speaker 5 (11:50):
No, you can say that the other word too. I'm
not going to do it because I don't want them
to keep trying to dump me.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
But you can.

Speaker 5 (11:59):
You can use the word I used, ulins. You can
use the word I use because it's not an action
I did. There was no action taken against them. It
was amelons.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
I love the fact that LeVar is all over this though,
like he's who I go to as far as what
I can and cannot say, because I'll be honest, I'll
be honest with that. I never pay attention to the
HR training. I don't pay attention to any of that
crap we have to do.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
I do.

Speaker 5 (12:32):
I can say, I can say that word, but it's
it can't be an action, like I can't.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
Say grabbing her that. I can't say, oh, I.

Speaker 5 (12:43):
Was rubbing on them, you know, what I mean, like,
you can't use it as an action, but I can
use the word.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
But it is, it's fine.

Speaker 5 (12:51):
I got it like, okay, mister, I got it like
you hyped her up. That's what you did. You scared her,
you hyped her up. You hit the red button and
it was a good bit. Now it's ruined. Now it's ruined.

Speaker 4 (13:02):
But it is in CC's by the way.

Speaker 5 (13:04):
When they pull when they pulled the fluid off of
your leg, it is in CC's. And this one right here,
this one looks like it's about maybe I'm going to
say eight to nine CC's.

Speaker 6 (13:17):
Oh, can we gamble on this gambling music? Let's well,
let's do it over under on the CC's of fluid.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
Well, you have a gambling problem, right over under eight
and a half? What do you guys got.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
I'm taking the over. Lvar is involved, and I believe
it's over that number.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
Hey, I'm gonna take the under.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
That's messed up.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Yeah, I'll take I'll take under eight and a half.

Speaker 7 (13:45):
I'm going under.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
Wow, so under eight and.

Speaker 6 (13:49):
A half cecs of food to be taken out of LaVar,
Pull on out.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
I'm going for three fifty ccs.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
Guys, No, you know how big my leg would be.

Speaker 7 (14:00):
That'd be pretty large.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
You have to buy two seats on Southwest.

Speaker 7 (14:04):
It'd be like a double D on your knee.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
Bro that that really would be a full D.

Speaker 7 (14:10):
I'm gonna see D.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
What are you doing with your phone?

Speaker 3 (14:15):
Lee when you're looking at I want to see it?

Speaker 5 (14:17):
What my bad? I didn't make that group chat.

Speaker 7 (14:25):
You know, biscuits, that's huge. It's like if you left
the biscuits out, they're rising.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
Tang.

Speaker 4 (14:33):
I got a biscuit in me.

Speaker 7 (14:34):
It's thick.

Speaker 4 (14:37):
Anyway, tang.

Speaker 5 (14:41):
But yet you can hit that sound like you can
use that sound, but I can't use.

Speaker 4 (14:45):
The word I use. That's so crazy, y'all are crazy?
And how to control for that?

Speaker 3 (14:51):
You think the doctor when he sees your knee is
going to go, I'm really.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
Going to do this. No, he's the team doctor.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
Is it that big?

Speaker 4 (14:58):
No? This is not bad out.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
I love the fact that you are back in the
happy Valley and it's almost like you're a player again.

Speaker 8 (15:06):
You're using their facilities, you're eating their food, their doctors,
dreading your knee, You're you're leading them out out of
the field like it's it's like a whole like revival again.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
It's amazing.

Speaker 5 (15:19):
I've always done I've always been here. I just never
had publicized it the way that we're doing now. I've
always done this.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
I'm always low key, like I just try to get
in and get out.

Speaker 5 (15:29):
Yeah, you know, I do try to, but I'm around,
I'm around the people around the players. They should know
that you're supportive of them. So I make sure that
they know that they're they're loved and they're supported, but
to collected for them.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
I think the players are well aware that I'm supportive
of them.

Speaker 5 (15:46):
Yeah, I get it, I get it, but you know,
you got to be in front of them though you
know I'm in. I get in front of them so
they know, like, like we love you, like we really
believe in you. You know, we got some lofty we
got some lofty expects.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Man, I was just aggressive, dude, wet the expectations. But
the odds, I mean six and a half, seven to
one odds to win it all. It's not the not
the number of you, not the favorite.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
I know. I like it that way.

Speaker 5 (16:13):
I'd rather be that way because I just don't feel
like it ends well. More often than not, when you're
made a favorite.

Speaker 4 (16:21):
I just don't. I don't want us to have that
on us.

Speaker 5 (16:24):
You know, that's that's a lot of pressure to carry
for an entire season. So I'm okay with us not
being you know, the odds favorites.

Speaker 4 (16:33):
I like that.

Speaker 5 (16:34):
But I'm talking all sports though. I mean, all of
our sports are pretty We got like the dopest wrestler
in the world, you know, in the world, Craig. We
got the dopest hockey player in the world. Like we're
going for natties and like sports like all of them.
Our soccer team is bad, our girls' soccer team, our

(16:56):
volleyball team, they look like they're just as good as
they were last year, if not better.

Speaker 4 (17:00):
So that's going to be crazy.

Speaker 5 (17:02):
I mean, there's just there's all kinds of excitement surrounding
and swirling around our campus. I was with my daughter,
you know, she's a cheerleader. That was super dope. That
was really nice. Enjoyed that. So yeah, mister sticks, the
new mister sticks. You know, there could be a stick
sighting outside of me on Saturday, by the way, there

(17:22):
could be a stick sighting. Yeah, I'm excited. It could
be a couple sticks sighting. It could be several sticks
in attendance.

Speaker 4 (17:31):
Oh yeah at the game. Anyways, we are Yeah, we
are baby.

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Speaker 3 (18:39):
He's the one and only.

Speaker 6 (18:40):
Pete Prisco, senior NFL columnist for CBS Sports, CBS Sports
HQ analysts m On Prisco ex at Prisco, CBS Go, Pete,
what do you always say in the NFL?

Speaker 10 (18:54):
They all show up and play?

Speaker 4 (18:59):
Go?

Speaker 10 (19:00):
I mean, I mean it's this we low so much waste,
so much oxygen talking about this stuff. They all show
up and play. Now, whether you get a new deal,
a revised deal, a one year deal, or play on
your current deal, you'll all show up and play. So
the last one standing is who Mica Park. He'll show

(19:22):
up and play. You know why, because he'll get a
new deal in the next couple of days in the
cowboy way, and he'll be a happy man and go
in and play. So by then every single guy will
have showed up and played, just like they always do.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
Pete. On that note, I do want to ask you
specifically about the contract for Trey Hendrickson a one year
deal totally now thirty million. He will get paid for
this year, and it seems like basically they're going to
pour ways after the season. Uh, take me through the deal?

Speaker 4 (19:53):
Is this?

Speaker 2 (19:54):
And this is lower than what I thought he would get, Like,
I didn't think he would be below Max Crosby. I
thought it'd be not necessarily to Miles Garrett and j Watt.
But some are up around that vicinity. And this is
a Florida parture, I'm sure from where he wanted to.

Speaker 10 (20:06):
Be, yes Brady, because he wanted to be up near
that forty million dollars thing. So he got but he
does get it what a fourteen million dollar raise, So
it's not like he's not getting jump change. Here's the
concern there. There hasn't been any talk of clauses in
that contract to prevent him from being tagged next year,
and so they don't necessarily have to part ways with him.

(20:30):
If they want to, they can tack them, and so
he wouldn't be free agent again after next year. So
and again it would be a big, big contract and
a big number and it wouldn't be that bad for him.
But he's not going to get that mega deal.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
Are you telling me? We're going to get another photo
of him back on the road driving back down south
to Florida? Do you think that could happen again next offseasons?

Speaker 10 (20:50):
Is that what you're saying, Yes, it absolutely could happen again.
And again I haven't seen the contract and talk to
the agent, but if there's no provision in there for
them not to be franchise tag, then they can tag
him next year and so you'd be in the same
situation all over again. And guess what will happen? Just
find the tag and play if he doesn't get a
new deal, just like they all do.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Hey, Michaeh.

Speaker 6 (21:13):
Parsons, since we're on the topic here, what do you
think week one before week one, early in the season?
What's a timeline that they end up getting this deal
done for him to show back up and play, as
you pointed out.

Speaker 10 (21:30):
By the end of the week here you shot, yeah,
by the end.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
Of Priscos pics.

Speaker 10 (21:38):
Why do I think that is the end of the week,
because I think this has all been a big charade.
Jerry likes staying in the news, and he's ultimately done
this before. He did it with Ceedee Lamb, he did
it with Dak Prescott. Now let's do it with Michael Parsons.
That's just the way you operate, whether whether anybody likes
it or not. The player will get paid, Parsons will

(21:59):
be happy, will show up and play, and on they go.
And that's just the reality of it.

Speaker 5 (22:03):
I think there's any venom and this that's right here.
It just seems like there could be a little bit
of real malice involved, which may be a little bit
different than the two prior contracts that you're speaking of
on Dak and Lamb.

Speaker 10 (22:19):
Forty two million dollars in guaranteed money, will make all
per year, will make all the all the venom go
out the window.

Speaker 4 (22:26):
Come on, well, that's that's very true.

Speaker 10 (22:28):
Come on, I mean, we've been involved in these negotiations.
Here's the venom. The venom comes from the you know,
when the owner makes a comment, then the agent gets mad,
and the agent says something, the player gets mad, and
then they sit there and it's negotiation in the media,
and everybody in the media plays the game because they're
all They all love the agents, and that that agent, Muligetta,

(22:51):
they love him and and and he sends out and
Ryan Clark he talked to the agent. Well, Ryan Clark's
represented by the agent, so I mean, of course you're
going to talk to him, and they get out there
and they all negotiate for the player. Do you ever
see anybody negotiate for the team ever?

Speaker 4 (23:06):
No, of course not, you do yours.

Speaker 10 (23:10):
Don't approach to it.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Pete Lee, do we have the sound from Boomerasis and
can we play the sound for p I don't know
if he's heard. How we keep saying that I heard that,
you heard it?

Speaker 10 (23:22):
Okay, yeah, I heard that. And by the way, that
is being absolutely cheap. There's no doubt about that. That's cheap.
But as far as negotiations.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
Everybody negotiate for the Bengals, you do.

Speaker 10 (23:35):
I don't negotiate for anybody. I'm just I'm just a
realist and just everybody. Oh, just pay them, pay and
pay them. Forget the fact that Terry McLaurin is thirty,
forget the fact that Trey Hendrickson is thirty. We'll just
pay everybody. Just give him the mega contract. So in
three years from now, when they're not playing at the
same level, don't worry about it. You know, a big
deal is just the cap. Nobody cares. They got to

(23:56):
look from that standpoint.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Given you being near seventy, I mean, it's kind of weird.
You're using ages right now against these players that.

Speaker 10 (24:04):
Would be saying, look, I'm the finest looking sixty four
year old man you ever did see was my dad's
eighty nine. So I mean we got that. We got
the good jeeves going.

Speaker 5 (24:18):
He was not very much older than you. Damn, he's
not very much older than you. You guys are more
like brothers.

Speaker 10 (24:26):
If you heard him, if you heard him and you
put him on the air, he would take the exact
same thing. By the way, you should hear his quarterback evaluations.
What he calls me sometimes, Oh my god, the things
he said, like this guy can't play at all. He
thinks he's a bum. You know, come on, give me
a break.

Speaker 5 (24:41):
Well, since you brought up quarterbacks and stinking, you got
a quarterback that vacated at the premises and much like yourself,
Brady Quinn got to take a victory lap today on
a prediction he made all the way back in May
where if Kenny Pickett didn't win the starting job in
Cleveland and he would most likely seeking trade.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
That's what played out.

Speaker 5 (25:05):
Do you think that hamstring injury now is a little
bit more peculiar. We do consider hamstring injuries soft tissue injuries.
Do you feel like maybe he was seeing the handwriting
on the wall, wasn't going to go risk is his
health and was going to get up out of there.

Speaker 4 (25:21):
How'd you see this situation, Pete?

Speaker 10 (25:24):
I don't know if he jaked it or not. I mean,
obviously he was competing at one point they thought he was.
It's not like they could could have watched what you
door Sanders did the other day and said, you know what,
we'll keep him and get rid of Kenny Picket because
we're really sold on I mean, he was dreadful. It
was dreadful, and so no, I think Ticket. They realized

(25:47):
that one of those two guys whoever didn't win the job,
was going anyways, and Brady called it, and he's right.
We all said that one of them had to go.
It wasn't going to be like Blacko and Picket were
both going to be around. The Ticket won the job,
at black it was gone. If black I want a job,
pick it was gone. And so it worked out that way.
But I mean, if I were the Browns, I wouldn't
be happy at number three quarterback the way he played

(26:08):
the other day, He's started.

Speaker 4 (26:11):
What about the number two he looked good.

Speaker 10 (26:14):
But you know, but again, as everybody in the media says,
they made it so he looked good. They wanted him
to succeed. They gave let him play with the twos
and Chador played with the threes. And it wasn't fair,
you know what it wasn't I watched the tape of
Shador Sanders. Nobody rarely was their guys open. You know,
he's playing with guys that are being cut. The offensive

(26:36):
line wasn't very good, and so it was tough on him.
But he has no field. There's no field, there's no anticipation,
he doesn't throw the ball on time. He's not very
good right now. And that's the reality of it. And
yet everybody sits there a fifth round pick. We talked
about a fifth round pick, like he's a star quarterback
who's coming in the first round or something. Give me

(26:56):
a break. The reality is he's not very good. The
Browns do it. They've known it all off season. Why
do you say, do you think all that work they've
done in the off season doesn't matter. He showed up
as rookie rookie mini camp. He was there the entire
off season for the OTAs he was there for Mini camp.
If he was wasn't If he was good, wouldn't they
have elevated him and tried to make him look good.

(27:18):
Give me a break. What's the agenda against him? All
these people say there's an agenda against him? Where's the agenda?
What's the reasoning for it? Because they don't like Dad?
Give me a break.

Speaker 5 (27:27):
They did drafting, to your point, I mean, to your point,
they did draft him, so they living a lot of
undrafted yeahs draft him.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
Hey, Pete, I got to ask you something, and only
because this all kind of occurred late last night, and
I know you're not a huge college football fan. You
do follow your sun devils.

Speaker 10 (27:51):
I thought college football, Brady, give me a break.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Com Okay, okay, come on, forget about it.

Speaker 4 (27:57):
Forget about it.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Did you see that Ohios Stadium is going to bar
Dave Portnoy from going into the game this weekend. I've
got I've got to get your thoughts on this.

Speaker 10 (28:09):
It feels a little bit petty, you said, I mean,
that's absurd. What are we doing? What's the reason behind it?
Because he's a Michigan Michigan man.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
I mean, well, I was going to ask you too,
because if there's anyone to ask about this, You probably
would have ruffled some feathers to the point where people
would invite you in. But is there is there like
a legal case to be made for being a journalist
or working with a TV network, they kind of have
to provide you access.

Speaker 10 (28:36):
Well, college football is a little different. I think in
the NFL you have to but there are ways they
could take away credential too. But what's the reasoning for
It's It's not like he violated any journalistic rules of
the teams right.

Speaker 6 (28:53):
According to uh Ross Dellinger, who just sent this out
that Ross Byork, the ad for Ohio State, said that
Ohio State did not issue the band to Dave Portnoy.
He said Fox decided port Noy would not be on
the main desk a big noon kickoff, and those not
on the desk do not normally appear on the field.

(29:14):
These are Fox decisions, he emphasized. So he's trying to
put it back on Fox.

Speaker 10 (29:19):
So okay, so well we got mister Quinn's on that show,
and what's what's what's the truth?

Speaker 2 (29:26):
The truth is that there is there is there is
some truth in that the desk is hard to fit
an additional person that's inside the stadium. However, we have
always made room for a coach, a player post game,
and we have had an additional person up there before.
So I think he's doing some damage control for Ohio

(29:48):
State in this case, because this is something that it
feels like the Ohio State fan base once this was
a hire that was controversial because the Ohio State fan
base was upset. So it does feel more like this
is maybe some damage control because maybe this got out
or maybe it shouldn't have got out either way. I mean,
you know that this is just made for TV, right,

(30:10):
This has made for all the everything around this game
that makes it even that much bigger now because of
the higher of Portnoy.

Speaker 10 (30:17):
Well, for me, if I'm Fox, I'm doing cartwheels over
this because now you're getting even more popleging related to it.
It's great, it's great for you.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Like I'll put it this way, Matthew McConaughey will be
at the game. He will be on the field on
Texas side, inside the stadium. He may very very well
be up on the desk with us. Now I don't
know if you will. I don't know if he'll be
doing a standing at you. But my guess is he's
going to be on that desk with us. So kind

(30:47):
of refuting what ros Byork saying is I don't know
that that's actually true at all. I think he's just
trying to cover for Ohio State because it makes it
paints them at a bad picture, makes them look bad.

Speaker 10 (30:59):
All right, all right, h h that's great. You get
Matt McConaughey, get the importunite. Doesn't Okay, come on, give
me a break. What what what are we doing with
the paranoia and all these these teams, these college football
is out of control with the paranoia. They don't they
don't let you watch. Didn't Florida State close the practice
to the media. You can't report on the practice?

Speaker 4 (31:20):
What are we doing, Pete?

Speaker 3 (31:21):
I heard I heard your bard from Tucson. Is that true?

Speaker 10 (31:25):
They don't do anything, so why would you. We used
to joke, we used to joke around that when U
of A went to the Rose Bowl would be be
a miracle. You know, they never did, by the way,
you know, they never went to the Rose Bowl ever,
so they have that going for them. But you know,

(31:45):
here's the thing about this. If you're banned from practice, Okay,
teams close practice all the time. But if you're banned
from practice at Florida State and you can't watch practice,
you know how dumb that is. And here's why. If
you watch practice, you're not allowed to report anything that
you see at practice. That's the rule, and good journalists

(32:07):
will follow the rule. But if you're not at practice,
you could wait outside the locker room and go talk
to players, and players tell you stuff, then you can
report that. For example, if a guy gets moved from
less tackle and he's now the starting right tackle, you
can't if you were a practice you couldn't report that.

(32:28):
But if you go outside and wait for the player
and he tells you he'd moved the right tackle and
he's starting on Friday on Saturday, now you can report it.
These guys don't see, they don't see what's in front
of them. They're idiots if you.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
Allow them on the practice, if.

Speaker 10 (32:41):
You allow them on the practice field to watch practice.
You said that with Coughlin, he would open practice and
you'd watch practice for a little while and then you
had to go. Well, I'd go wait outside the parking lot.
Guys would tell me stuff all the time, and when
they told me stuff. He goes nuts because I watched,
because he thought he thought he knew they would lead
stuck to me. I said, well, you don't let me

(33:02):
on practice field. If I was on the practice field,
I could report it. The fact is I'm not on
the practice field. I go out saw guys tell me
I report it. They're dumb. Let them on the practice field. Hey,
the reporters don't want to stay in there all damn
day anyways and watch practice. They just don't. They'd rather
be It's like transcribing cape and writing their stories. Two,
if you let them on the field, they can't report anything.

(33:22):
But now again, so they're dumb.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
Pete, anybody all show up to report? They all show up.

Speaker 4 (33:31):
I'll show up.

Speaker 10 (33:32):
They'll show up to play. And here's the other thing
about today, and and okay, it's a rough day in
the NFL for a lot of people. Can we stop saying,
let's remember and be sensitive that some dreams are being
cut short today. Give me a break. It's forty six
guys on every team know their dreams are cut short
the minute they walk into facility. They're just troping like heck,

(33:54):
they're going to get a roster spot.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Oh, gosh, you sound like a guy who stopped playing
it in high school. Hey, Pete, don't don't get all offended.
Don't get all offended, Pete, don't you get your shorts
a little bund.

Speaker 10 (34:09):
We really see that point now?

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Can I ask you this? You don't you don't need
to get.

Speaker 10 (34:13):
All fired up?

Speaker 2 (34:15):
Club Nick Garrett Nussmeyer, Drew Aller. There's a lot of
quarterbacks who I'm sure you're excited to watch arch Manning
this upcoming weekend. Who will be drafted next year, probably
the Saints number one overall at this point. But who
are you most excited to watch at the quarterback spot
that you, if you had to place your bet right now,
is going to be the first guy to go next year?

Speaker 10 (34:38):
Arch Manning? Okay, And I think he's coming out, you know.
I think he left it when his when his grandfather
said no, no, no, then he said wait a second, no,
wait a second. I think he left the door open.
By the way. The other kid that's really intrigues me
is the kid at Mississippi, Austin Simmons. I think people
don't realize he's draft eligible next year. I think I

(35:00):
think he has a chance to be your first round pick,
and if he plays the way I think he can play,
he might even be a near the top of that
first round if he comes out.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
Look at that, no Stone, have you watched them, Brady.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
I mean he's only thrown what like thirty pass attempts.

Speaker 10 (35:15):
He went in against Georgia and he played really well
in that game. And he can run, it can move,
he's got a big arm, he's a baseball pitcher.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Get that. He's got all those intangibles. I mean it
doesn't sound like you so no, because like, here's the
thing is, is there potential? There no doubt? All Right,
Here's the problem is there was a lot of potential
on Andrew Richardson too. I remember watching him at Florida,
seeing some of the splash plays and seeing some of
the throws he would make. Tennessee game sticks out in particular.
Then there's other games where you watch you go okay
on a bigger sample size, there's a lot of development here.

(35:47):
So I'm not saying he's not a really interesting prospect.
I would think he needs more than just one year.
I don't think a one year starter has has showcased
well in most cases.

Speaker 10 (35:58):
Arch Manning an arch Manning played, he started last year.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
He's been there. Well, he's not a freshman like they said,
it's gonna be a sophomore.

Speaker 10 (36:07):
This gets a red sophomore.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
But I'm just saying he's been there more. It's a
little different.

Speaker 10 (36:13):
Yeah, but Brady, what year is arch Manning?

Speaker 2 (36:17):
This is his what third year in the program?

Speaker 10 (36:20):
So you're Redchord sophomore? What year are you?

Speaker 4 (36:22):
You're a junior?

Speaker 2 (36:23):
First third? But he also has thirty thirty time.

Speaker 10 (36:29):
It's the same thing. Neither one of them have played
and yet and yet Arch then he has started multiple.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
Games, and he's a junior. Pete not a sophomore.

Speaker 10 (36:39):
But what's the difference between a Redchard sophomore and a
junior true junior?

Speaker 4 (36:43):
Nothing, that's correct.

Speaker 6 (36:46):
Yeah, a Pete, We're we're up against it, but always
a phenomenal get out of here, pet And.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
Next next Tuesday, you're all going to shout aggression, aggressive,
get out of here.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
He makes up.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
Go a here for us?

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Speaker 9 (38:12):
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Speaker 3 (38:17):
Time to find out what's lap? It's Lee's lap, all right,
the lap. What do we got?

Speaker 7 (38:23):
Well, a couple of updates for you.

Speaker 11 (38:24):
We've talked a lot about Lil Na Sex and his
little uh strut down Ventura Boulevard the other night. Well,
he is gonna be pleading not guilty for filling the
assault of an officer after the lapd brought him in
that night.

Speaker 7 (38:39):
So a little update there on Little Na Sex. That's important.

Speaker 4 (38:42):
We got that one in. Yeah, well we were job,
good job. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (38:49):
Well, we were.

Speaker 11 (38:49):
Also talking Kennymine earlier in the show, as we always do. Uh,
Kennymine queen who h offered, who supplied mister Matthew Perry
with the kenemine that ultimately took his life. She's going
to be pleading guilty today, not not guilty.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
Any uplifting news are just all about you know, anyone
legals issue or a criminal issue, like what's happening right now.

Speaker 7 (39:12):
These are updates that are needed.

Speaker 4 (39:14):
Uh, These are updates that are yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 (39:17):
Just updated day and everything.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
They couldn't continue on without the little Nasax.

Speaker 7 (39:21):
Yeah, well you need a little smile on your face.

Speaker 11 (39:23):
It's National Dog Day, so you know, take your dog
to dunkin Donuts or anywhere around the country. They got
deals for you. Sorry, they're Jonas. No National Dog Day
deals for you.

Speaker 7 (39:33):
Oh wow yeah, but uh.

Speaker 4 (39:35):
It could be like remembrance of dog Day.

Speaker 7 (39:38):
Absolutely, you know, get a shovel, Jonas.

Speaker 4 (39:42):
There you go, shovel with a boss Hog's name on.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
Damn.

Speaker 7 (39:47):
Yeah, what else you got. I didn't win the seven
hundred and fifty million dollar jack butt.

Speaker 11 (39:51):
I did win four dollars though, because I got the
power ball itself. The Red power Ball eight hundred and
fifteen million is what it's up to now, drawing on Wednesday,
So go get your ticket.

Speaker 7 (40:00):
I'll buy some for you guys.

Speaker 4 (40:02):
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