September 18, 2025 • 24 mins
Albert Breer from TheMMQB.com stops by to talk about the biggest headlines in the NFL!
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The one and only Alberbreer with us here on Fox
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Speaker 6 (01:43):
A be good morning Alert.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
How are feeling? I don't know how people have ever
feel about me being the voice of buck Eye Nation,
but I'll take it. I'll take it, dude.
Speaker 7 (01:53):
Do we have any concerns about just the offense? I mean,
it's they got to a slow starvers Ohio University. I
know how how he was one of the better MAC teams.
But any thoughts on the offense?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yeah, I no, I think I said last week, didn't
I did didn't that take all you to cover last week?
I think that's right, right, johnas you the one who
keeps track of it.
Speaker 6 (02:11):
Yeah, I believe he did.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yes, I did. I took him to cover last week,
so I guess, I guess. I guess I was ahead
of that one. Yeah. I mean, I think the red
zone offense has been an issue off and on the
last few years, so I've got a little concern there.
But you know, maybe you get that freshman running back
a little bit more run and we'll be okay. So
I feel okay, Yeah, I mean, he looks like he
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can really play. I guess he was hurt as a
senior in high school and so maybe he wasn't rated
and I think he was still like top hundred in
the country or something like that, but like maybe he
wasn't rated the way he should have been. But he
looks awesome, So so yeah, no, I I have I
have mild concerns about the red zone offense, but that's
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just sort of like PTSD lingering stuff from the last
few years.
Speaker 6 (03:00):
Maybe I'm curious because we were kicking this around earlier.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I know that's how you guys are bringing me in
to break down the Buckeyes.
Speaker 6 (03:06):
Right, Yeah, thanks for joining us out for That'll be it.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
I actually dowed out too much.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
But I'm just I'm curious because we're kind of kicking
this around earlier, the potential of this happening, even though
it's two and a half weeks into the season, because
it's a Thursday night game.
Speaker 6 (03:24):
If things go.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
Really bad for Miami tonight, what are the chances we
could be talking about a coaching change already at some
point this weekend in Miami.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I mean, are we talking about it or is it happening?
Because if it goes bad, and I think we're all
going to be talking about it, whether or not it
happens is probably another story. You know. I look like
I think there's a there's a few things that works here.
Number one, like they're like over the course of the offseason,
there's a lot of noise about, like what was a
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messy situation internally there, And you know, really, I think
a huge part of it comes down to the way
star players were treated the last few years. There were
players in att locker room and felt like there was
a double standard, so they tried to make some changes
to kind of get the culture back. This off season
one of them was trading away Jalen Ramsey. Then I
think on top of that, they're they're going through a
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natural reset, slash rebuild, whatever you want to call it.
And you know, like, so toront Arms has gone, now,
Ramsey's gone now, you know, and I think they sort
of felt like, and I think they're right about this,
that they've kind of maxed out with that group that
they brought in, that they built aggressively while two was
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still in's rookie contract. So they're going to be going
through a little bit of a retooling over the next
year or two anyway, And generally when you're in that spot,
you know, an owner is going to ask big picture
questions like do I have the right people in charge
right now? And so you know, you add that those
two things to the fact that they're own to now.
The first game was a complete notion show. The second
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game wasn't a no show. I think the effort was
better in the second game, but there were still a
lot of like operational issues. And so now you've got
like this Thursday night game, which I mean, we've seen
the way these things go, like the way the volume
gets turned up and standalone games and the way people
sort of talk about things differently because it's the only show,
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it's the only game on and yeah, I mean, I
think if if Buffalo comes out and it's you know,
which could happen, if it Bubble comes out and it's
twenty four to nothing in the middle of the second quarter,
then every single one of us is going to be
talking about how much longer does this last? With Mike
n Daniel, I don't know whether or not Steven ros
has the appetite to pull to plug this early. I
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think if he did, it would probably relate to wanting
to get a look at Anthony Weaver as a potential
head coach and get him an audition. I still think
it's early for that, but you know, I certainly think
some of the conversation around it. I think Mike's a
really good coach, but I think some of the conversation
around bit is certainly is certainly you know, something that's warranted,
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and because I do think it's something that's going to
be happening internally over the course of the year, things
will turn around.
Speaker 7 (06:12):
Albert we kind of talked about this earlier in the week,
like what good does this really do? For the Dolphins.
I mean, even though you could say, oh, it gives
you a jump on the head coaching search, so what
we know other organizations that are back channeling why they've
got a guy in place that they know they're going
to fire, So like why why now? Like this just
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takes the entire season.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah, I always ask that question too, Brady, And I
think it's I think it's the right question to ask,
like because you know, it's like last year with the Jets, right,
like Robert Sala hadn't lost that team like that. That
situation was the owner wanting his time to flesh, the
owner being on social media and taking too much attention
to what was being said in the tabloids, and you know,
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the owner Like like, I think in a lot of cases,
it can be the playcate of fan base. It can
be to it can be it can be in an
overreaction to you know, public sentiment. You know, and I
and I and I don't know. I wouldn't say that
that that that Stephen Ross is overly prone to that
sort of thing, although he has you know, gone through
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a mid season firing before, so I think it would
have to be to me, it be it has to
be one of two things. It's either Mike McDaniel has
lost the team to the point where it's becoming a
poisonous environment for the rest of the players, and you
don't want your younger players developing in that environment the
rest of the year. I don't think that's necessarily the case. Now.
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I don't think do I think every single player in
that locker room is walked in on every word? Mike
McDaniel says no. Do I think the the the environment
has gotten to the point where it's poisonous. I don't
think it's there yet. The second reason to do it
would be you think so much of someone on your
staff that you want to get that get a real
look at them as a potent, actual head coach. And
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they love Anthony Weaver, you know, like I. You know,
I I think the locker room, the defensive players really
like Anthony Weaver. So like I do think I could
get to that point. But do I think that you
need to see like fourteen games of him and risk
a lot of other things going wrong? Probably not like
you probably you know, get a shorter sample size on that.
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So those would be the two reasons to do it.
I think those two reasons can be valid to do
it this early. But you know, I just again, like,
I don't think we're at that point on either front
with the Dolphins.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
But yet I'm gonna shift gears from this game and
ask you about what's going on with Tom Brady. It
would be and just all the murmuring and discussion points,
does this does this bubble up into something big enough
where there actually has to be a real conversation one
way or the other. I would assume there's no going
back once you're approved as as someone that's the owner.
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But that does that make it a more intense conversation
for his employment with Fox?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah, I think it's I think it's an interesting conversation
because I do think it touches on some things that
people aren't really talking about right now. The strategic stuff.
I don't know, man, Like I think that like you
have to be careful is that if you're one of
these games right like, so obviously in the Raiders play
the Commanders this week, Brady had the Commanders two weeks ago.
Brady has the Bears this week. The Raiders have the
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Bears next week. So there are those things where you
have to be careful and you have to be smart.
I think if you're a coach or a player on
one of those teams, and I certainly think it's fair
to be concerned about, Like you put a younger players
in one of these production meetings, and like he idolizes Brady, right,
so he gets comfortable talking to Brady and does he
let some things slip because like it's important for him
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personally to have a relationship with Brady. Like, teams are
going to have to be careful about those things, no doubt,
Like I think that that's a fair thing to worry about.
I actually don't think like the game strategy thing is
a big deal though for me. I think what like
owners would be more concerned about as far as just
from a competitive advantage standpoint, is the ability to access
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players and coaches on other teams in a way that
would be tampering for the other thirty one. Right, In
other words, like is Tom Brady able to kind of
like get a character assessment on players from being around
them through his broadcast job. That's going to help inform
the Raiders' decisions on free agency and trades going forward, Right,
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So he has a chance to say they have the
Chiefs three times, and I don't know, pick a free
agent for the Chiefs, the guy from the Chiefs who's
going to be a free agent next year. Right, Well,
now Brady actually has had the opportunity to sit down
and be around those guys and talk to other people
in the organization about that guy three different times. And
now he has all this background on a guy who
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might be signed fifteen minutes after free agency starts. So
none of the other teams are going to have the
opportunity to do that sort of thing. Same thing I'm
coaching front right Like, so like, let's say the Raiders
aren't happy with one of their coordinators. Now Brady got
to meet, you know, let's say it's defensive coordinator. Brady
got to meet five or six linebackers coaches over the
course of the of the season through his Fox job,
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and he was standing on the field and got to
meet them that way, or he got to meet them
in a production meeting. And now like he's able to
hit the ground running and be aggressive and going and
getting the guy he wants while other teams are still
going through the process of getting to know all these guys.
You know, early in the offseason. There are those sorts
of things that I think are very real competitive advantages
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for the Raiders from a team building standpoint, And I
think that's the stuff that people aren't paying attention to, right.
I think it's the coaching players. Yeah, go ahead, Brady, No.
Speaker 7 (11:42):
I'm just going to say it, but like, come on,
these coaches, no other linebackers coaches they have that works.
I mean, this is the league, but that well, Albert,
I'm just saying, like, honestly, like it, it's no different.
We said this earlier, like the side stealing thing with
kind of talians, Like everyone makes a big deal about it,
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and reality, what was the actual impact that had on games?
Probably not as much, especially considering everyone knew about it.
Everyone was changing their signals, everyone was was actually helping
other teams that went against Michigan prepare by giving them
their signals. Like the whole entire thing to me was
a little bit overblown. And in this sense, it's like okay,
but like everyone knows everyone in the league, and like
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are there new linebackers coaches that they're unaware of? Like, well,
tampering rules are effect because you don't want to try
to obviously, have a guy who's currently hired somewhere else
be talking to another team elsewhere. Like that's why tampering exists,
Like it's a moral in that sense. It's not because
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they're worried about the relationship. I mean, like, do you
think Tom Brady right now is free time? I mean,
given that he's probably the most eligible bachelor that is
out there, is more focused on who that next hot
linebacker coaches that they're gonna hunt.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
But I think, but but I think anybody who's been
around Tom knows how ultra competitive he is and knows that,
like and look like this is Tom's personality, like I
and I'm not saying he's doing I'm.
Speaker 7 (13:10):
Not even saying this is he doesn't want to skinner
situation to happen, you know, off the field.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
I mean, like, so he's got the Bears and Cowboys
this week. Let's just say, you know again, like he's
in a he's in a production meeting with carry Von
Diggs and Trayvon Diggs gets cut after the year. Well,
like and the Fox crew is probably going to like
that crew is probably gonna have the Cowboys five times
this year. Right, so now Brady has like such like
it has has had intimate knowledge of someone else of
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the guy. Somebody else is, you know, cutting, and the
Raiders have a hole at corner. So now all of
a sudden, the Raiders can hit the ground running because
they know the guy is. The background work is done
and they can aggressively move and value.
Speaker 7 (13:51):
Okay, but then then why allow him to do both
in the first case?
Speaker 6 (13:54):
Like this goes back to.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
The initiative side. Now here's why. That's the interesting part
about it, right, Like to me, like, that's that is why, like,
and I don't want to make this just about Fox.
I know we're on a Fox platform here, but like
I like, I think it's like ESPN paying Joe Buck
and Troyman eighteen million dollars a year piece. Right. The
reason why ESPN did that, and both those guys are
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phenomenal at what they do, so this is like a
credit to them, right. But the reason the SPN does
that is because ESPN wanted to get into the into
the Super Bowl rotation and the NFL. It basically signaled
the ESPN, your broadcast on Monday night right now does
not steel big enough. It does not is not it
does not elevate the game enough for us to give
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you a super Bowl really and that was it. Yeah,
So they go and they they go and they bring
in Joe and Troy because they want they because ESPN
wanted into the super Bowl rotation. And after they get
Joe and Troy, what happens. They're into the super Bowl rotation.
The reason I'm telling that story is because the NFL
their concern is, I'm making every game seem as much
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se seem like as much of an event as they
possibly can, to build it up as much as they
possibly can, and having Tom Brady on the broadcast helps
them build up Like the games that Tom Brady's on like,
it helps build up those games. And so it's in
the NFL office's best interest to have the highest procliud
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guide possible who can make the game feel the biggest
in the boost. Right, it's like the John Madden effect, right,
like every game when you were a kid, every game
that John Madden and Pat Summer I'll call when we
were kids was like felt like a massive game. Right,
that's the premise. And so like the feeling is the
bigger the name we have in the booths, the bigger
the game field. And so the NFL is going to
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bend over backwards. Is the NFL league off. It's not
the owner, it's not the thirty two, but then the
NFL league off league off. It's well, yeah, we're going
to bend over backwards because we want the games to
feel as big as possible. Brady will help us do that,
which ultimately will help make the broadcast packages as valuable
as possible and help us make the most So like,
I think that that's why Brady is like that they
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wanted this is like typical. The NFL wants this cake,
wants to have its cake and eat it too, right.
Having Brady with the Raiders was great for the Raiders
because they helped bring in all these big money guys
to change these of the franchise. You're Michael Meltman, you're
Egan Deurb and Tom Wickner's business partner. So that helps
the Raiders that help survive an iconic brand. And then
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Tom Brady is the broadcast or helped to build up
the actual games themselves. And so it's a unique situation
because of who Tom Brady is. And you know, I
think this again is like, is there a conflict here? Yeah,
but the NFL is choosing to not worry about that
conflict and try to have it both ways.
Speaker 6 (16:45):
Albert Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. Get
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Speaker 5 (16:49):
I want to ask you about the game that Brady
is calling this weekend, the Cowboys of the Bears, in particular,
Ben Johnson not shy about calling out his own team
me called out their practice habits yesterday to the media.
What are you hearing from people you talked to about
what the real concern is there? Because to me, it
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doesn't feel like it's so much about Caleb Williams. It
feels like Ben Johnson's looking around, going we got other
issues here.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah, So I think like one of the things like
Ben Johnson felt like walking in there. This is just
my perception from what I've gathered from people in that
organization since he's got there, is that there was a
lot to clean up and that they and that, you know,
the way he wanted to build it, it was going
to be hard to get there in that first year
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was gonna be really hard, and we talked about this.
We talked about this over the summer with Caleb specifically.
But I do think it's like a five across the organization.
So with Caleb, the whole the whole approach was, you know,
we're gonna feed him through a fire, ohs. And so
it's going to look bad early in camp, and we're
going to give him the whole offense and we're gonna
see what he can handle. We're gonna on them with information.
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Now you can argue whether or not that's the right
way to do it, but the thought was like, let's
see what he can handle. Let's put him through everything,
and then we'll figure out what he's good at, and
we'll narrow it down and we'll lean into what he's
good at as the season goes on. And I think
that that's existing now from a you know, on on
on a on a global level with the team too,
where you look at it and you say, okay, what
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can we do too, what can we do? What can
we do to to to jump start this place and
get this place turned around faster? And so it's being
hard on people and it's like like let's see who
survives and let's weed people out, and like let's see
who can who can handle the heat. And this is
going to be a tough program to be in. And
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you know, I think it's it's it's interesting because I
don't think it's that different than what Dan Campbell did
in Detroit, right in the way that Dan Campbell built Detroit.
It's just a message is being delivered in a different
way by a different person. So it'll be interesting to
see the way that you see how all of that
turns out. But there's a very i'd say, like to
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what Campbell built in Detroit. There's like a very parcels
and I would say, way about the way the Lions
were built. And you know, I feel like, you know,
you see a lot of that and Ben Johnson the
way he's trying to build it there. Just the messengers
are quite a bit different than than than than what
it looked like with the Lions.
Speaker 7 (19:22):
Hey yeah, I've got one more. Uh the Giants obviously,
you know when you look at where they're at the
record at Owen two, you kind of the sense that
there's gonna be people clamoring for Jackson Dart to start early,
start that clock on. It suited that later that being said,
Russell Wilson played phenomenal that the exception of that interception
just take me through the patients that the organization has
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and not wanting to turn this thing over to Jackson
Dart and stick with Russell Wilson.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Yeah, so I think, like I I like to me,
it's like there's there's there's a few different elements here.
It's it's Russell Wilson's the ability to keep the Giants
relevant in the race, it's Jackson Dart's readiness, and then
you know, and then then then I think it's like
kind of the juncture of the season that you're at.
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And so like Jackson Dart has from the beginning checked
every box and he was more ready for the NFL
than people thought. I think the Giants thought. The Giants
thought coming in that like people understold him, thinking he
was a little raw coming from Lane Kiffin's offense when
Wayne was doing some old school West Coast stuff there.
And like it's even he's even further along than they
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thought he would be. And so the decision to make
him the backup I think was very talent just in like,
we are ready to put him in a game right
now if we need to. They put him in a
game obviously last week against Dallas, and so like they
would feel comfortable playing him now, and so like now
the pressures on Russell Wilson to keep playing the way
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that he played last week, And then you know you
have the other piece of it, which is like where
is the team interlations into the playoff race? And they're
all in two right now. And I don't know if
you guys have looked at their schedule, but everybody in
the NFC is this year at the NFC nor and
the AFC West, and so things aren't going to get
easier on the Giants from here. So like, what does
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that look like in week seven, Week eight, week nine?
And that's the point where you could get to where like,
even if Russell Wilson is playing well, what's right for
the Giants is for is for for for Jackson Dart
to be in there. So there are just some moving
parts there. But I do feel like it would be
comfortable playing Jackson Dart right now. And I don't think
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the gap between the two quarterbacks is very big at all.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Abe, real quick, what about Cleveland? I mean, the conversation
being the same, I guess in terms of what my
question would be as it applies to the New York Giants,
what does Cleveland do They have Joe Flacco starting? Yeah,
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but they're not off to a great start. What I mean,
when do the conversations get louder? When does the pressure
get become more and what do you do in this scenario?
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Well, speaking of schedules, if you look at the Brown schedule,
I mean like from here it's Packers on Sunday. I
got it up now, Packers on Sunday at Lions Vikings.
That one is in London at Steelers. So like you
could be looking at Owen six there, you know, and
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then it loosens a little after that, you know, and
that you think you got the Dolphins, the Patriots and
the vibe. But if you're owing six, I think that's
where you start to say, okay, like do we need
to get a look at the younger guys. You know,
I felt this way from the start. Like I talked
about the gap being small between between Wilson and Dart
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and Dart really coming along. I don't know that it's
that close to en Flaco and the rookies in Cleveland.
That said, like, you're eventually going to come to a
point where you know, it's not just about like getting
your veteran players the best chance to compete. It's going
to be about evaluating your roster based on the schedule.
How quickly do the Browns get to that point? And
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I'm not saying their season is over, but you know,
right now they're they're zero and two and they're staring
down the barrel of what's a very difficult schedule going forward.
So you know, I certainly think we could be in
November at some point and they're in evaluation mode, which
may mean they want to get a look at at
Dylan Gabriel and shoud Or Sanders before the end of
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the year, which could help inform what they do at
quarterback in twenty twenty six when they'll have two first
round picks.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
Get them on x at Albert Breers, senior NFL reporter,
lead content strategists at the MMQB ab we appreciate it.
I asked you about Ohio State, but they're on a
buy this week, so we'll get that.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Bet right there. Big favorites over the bye.
Speaker 6 (23:55):
We Yeah, there you go. Thanks, Aby, enjoyed the game.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
I have trouble bellows it all right there?
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of Buckeye Nation. He's the reason they are the defending
national champions and number.
Speaker 6 (01:38):
One in the country.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
The one and only Alberbreer with us here on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 6 (01:43):
A be good morning Alert.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
How are feeling? I don't know how people have ever
feel about me being the voice of buck Eye Nation,
but I'll take it. I'll take it, dude.
Speaker 7 (01:53):
Do we have any concerns about just the offense? I mean,
it's they got to a slow starvers Ohio University. I
know how how he was one of the better MAC teams.
But any thoughts on the offense?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yeah, I no, I think I said last week, didn't
I did didn't that take all you to cover last week?
I think that's right, right, johnas you the one who
keeps track of it.
Speaker 6 (02:11):
Yeah, I believe he did.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yes, I did. I took him to cover last week,
so I guess, I guess. I guess I was ahead
of that one. Yeah. I mean, I think the red
zone offense has been an issue off and on the
last few years, so I've got a little concern there.
But you know, maybe you get that freshman running back
a little bit more run and we'll be okay. So
I feel okay, Yeah, I mean, he looks like he
(02:35):
can really play. I guess he was hurt as a
senior in high school and so maybe he wasn't rated
and I think he was still like top hundred in
the country or something like that, but like maybe he
wasn't rated the way he should have been. But he
looks awesome, So so yeah, no, I I have I
have mild concerns about the red zone offense, but that's
(02:55):
just sort of like PTSD lingering stuff from the last
few years.
Speaker 6 (03:00):
Maybe I'm curious because we were kicking this around earlier.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I know that's how you guys are bringing me in
to break down the Buckeyes.
Speaker 6 (03:06):
Right, Yeah, thanks for joining us out for That'll be it.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
I actually dowed out too much.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
But I'm just I'm curious because we're kind of kicking
this around earlier, the potential of this happening, even though
it's two and a half weeks into the season, because
it's a Thursday night game.
Speaker 6 (03:24):
If things go.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
Really bad for Miami tonight, what are the chances we
could be talking about a coaching change already at some
point this weekend in Miami.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I mean, are we talking about it or is it happening?
Because if it goes bad, and I think we're all
going to be talking about it, whether or not it
happens is probably another story. You know. I look like
I think there's a there's a few things that works here.
Number one, like they're like over the course of the offseason,
there's a lot of noise about, like what was a
(03:58):
messy situation internally there, And you know, really, I think
a huge part of it comes down to the way
star players were treated the last few years. There were
players in att locker room and felt like there was
a double standard, so they tried to make some changes
to kind of get the culture back. This off season
one of them was trading away Jalen Ramsey. Then I
think on top of that, they're they're going through a
(04:19):
natural reset, slash rebuild, whatever you want to call it.
And you know, like, so toront Arms has gone, now,
Ramsey's gone now, you know, and I think they sort
of felt like, and I think they're right about this,
that they've kind of maxed out with that group that
they brought in, that they built aggressively while two was
(04:40):
still in's rookie contract. So they're going to be going
through a little bit of a retooling over the next
year or two anyway, And generally when you're in that spot,
you know, an owner is going to ask big picture
questions like do I have the right people in charge
right now? And so you know, you add that those
two things to the fact that they're own to now.
The first game was a complete notion show. The second
(05:01):
game wasn't a no show. I think the effort was
better in the second game, but there were still a
lot of like operational issues. And so now you've got
like this Thursday night game, which I mean, we've seen
the way these things go, like the way the volume
gets turned up and standalone games and the way people
sort of talk about things differently because it's the only show,
(05:21):
it's the only game on and yeah, I mean, I
think if if Buffalo comes out and it's you know,
which could happen, if it Bubble comes out and it's
twenty four to nothing in the middle of the second quarter,
then every single one of us is going to be
talking about how much longer does this last? With Mike
n Daniel, I don't know whether or not Steven ros
has the appetite to pull to plug this early. I
(05:43):
think if he did, it would probably relate to wanting
to get a look at Anthony Weaver as a potential
head coach and get him an audition. I still think
it's early for that, but you know, I certainly think
some of the conversation around it. I think Mike's a
really good coach, but I think some of the conversation
around bit is certainly is certainly you know, something that's warranted,
(06:05):
and because I do think it's something that's going to
be happening internally over the course of the year, things
will turn around.
Speaker 7 (06:12):
Albert we kind of talked about this earlier in the week,
like what good does this really do? For the Dolphins.
I mean, even though you could say, oh, it gives
you a jump on the head coaching search, so what
we know other organizations that are back channeling why they've
got a guy in place that they know they're going
to fire, So like why why now? Like this just
(06:33):
takes the entire season.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah, I always ask that question too, Brady, And I
think it's I think it's the right question to ask,
like because you know, it's like last year with the Jets, right,
like Robert Sala hadn't lost that team like that. That
situation was the owner wanting his time to flesh, the
owner being on social media and taking too much attention
to what was being said in the tabloids, and you know,
(06:57):
the owner Like like, I think in a lot of cases,
it can be the playcate of fan base. It can
be to it can be it can be in an
overreaction to you know, public sentiment. You know, and I
and I and I don't know. I wouldn't say that
that that that Stephen Ross is overly prone to that
sort of thing, although he has you know, gone through
(07:17):
a mid season firing before, so I think it would
have to be to me, it be it has to
be one of two things. It's either Mike McDaniel has
lost the team to the point where it's becoming a
poisonous environment for the rest of the players, and you
don't want your younger players developing in that environment the
rest of the year. I don't think that's necessarily the case. Now.
(07:38):
I don't think do I think every single player in
that locker room is walked in on every word? Mike
McDaniel says no. Do I think the the the environment
has gotten to the point where it's poisonous. I don't
think it's there yet. The second reason to do it
would be you think so much of someone on your
staff that you want to get that get a real
look at them as a potent, actual head coach. And
(08:01):
they love Anthony Weaver, you know, like I. You know,
I I think the locker room, the defensive players really
like Anthony Weaver. So like I do think I could
get to that point. But do I think that you
need to see like fourteen games of him and risk
a lot of other things going wrong? Probably not like
you probably you know, get a shorter sample size on that.
(08:23):
So those would be the two reasons to do it.
I think those two reasons can be valid to do
it this early. But you know, I just again, like,
I don't think we're at that point on either front
with the Dolphins.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
But yet I'm gonna shift gears from this game and
ask you about what's going on with Tom Brady. It
would be and just all the murmuring and discussion points,
does this does this bubble up into something big enough
where there actually has to be a real conversation one
way or the other. I would assume there's no going
back once you're approved as as someone that's the owner.
(08:58):
But that does that make it a more intense conversation
for his employment with Fox?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah, I think it's I think it's an interesting conversation
because I do think it touches on some things that
people aren't really talking about right now. The strategic stuff.
I don't know, man, Like I think that like you
have to be careful is that if you're one of
these games right like, so obviously in the Raiders play
the Commanders this week, Brady had the Commanders two weeks ago.
Brady has the Bears this week. The Raiders have the
(09:27):
Bears next week. So there are those things where you
have to be careful and you have to be smart.
I think if you're a coach or a player on
one of those teams, and I certainly think it's fair
to be concerned about, Like you put a younger players
in one of these production meetings, and like he idolizes Brady, right,
so he gets comfortable talking to Brady and does he
let some things slip because like it's important for him
(09:50):
personally to have a relationship with Brady. Like, teams are
going to have to be careful about those things, no doubt,
Like I think that that's a fair thing to worry about.
I actually don't think like the game strategy thing is
a big deal though for me. I think what like
owners would be more concerned about as far as just
from a competitive advantage standpoint, is the ability to access
(10:10):
players and coaches on other teams in a way that
would be tampering for the other thirty one. Right, In
other words, like is Tom Brady able to kind of
like get a character assessment on players from being around
them through his broadcast job. That's going to help inform
the Raiders' decisions on free agency and trades going forward, Right,
(10:31):
So he has a chance to say they have the
Chiefs three times, and I don't know, pick a free
agent for the Chiefs, the guy from the Chiefs who's
going to be a free agent next year. Right, Well,
now Brady actually has had the opportunity to sit down
and be around those guys and talk to other people
in the organization about that guy three different times. And
now he has all this background on a guy who
(10:53):
might be signed fifteen minutes after free agency starts. So
none of the other teams are going to have the
opportunity to do that sort of thing. Same thing I'm
coaching front right Like, so like, let's say the Raiders
aren't happy with one of their coordinators. Now Brady got
to meet, you know, let's say it's defensive coordinator. Brady
got to meet five or six linebackers coaches over the
course of the of the season through his Fox job,
(11:13):
and he was standing on the field and got to
meet them that way, or he got to meet them
in a production meeting. And now like he's able to
hit the ground running and be aggressive and going and
getting the guy he wants while other teams are still
going through the process of getting to know all these guys.
You know, early in the offseason. There are those sorts
of things that I think are very real competitive advantages
(11:34):
for the Raiders from a team building standpoint, And I
think that's the stuff that people aren't paying attention to, right.
I think it's the coaching players. Yeah, go ahead, Brady, No.
Speaker 7 (11:42):
I'm just going to say it, but like, come on,
these coaches, no other linebackers coaches they have that works.
I mean, this is the league, but that well, Albert,
I'm just saying, like, honestly, like it, it's no different.
We said this earlier, like the side stealing thing with
kind of talians, Like everyone makes a big deal about it,
(12:02):
and reality, what was the actual impact that had on games?
Probably not as much, especially considering everyone knew about it.
Everyone was changing their signals, everyone was was actually helping
other teams that went against Michigan prepare by giving them
their signals. Like the whole entire thing to me was
a little bit overblown. And in this sense, it's like okay,
but like everyone knows everyone in the league, and like
(12:24):
are there new linebackers coaches that they're unaware of? Like, well,
tampering rules are effect because you don't want to try
to obviously, have a guy who's currently hired somewhere else
be talking to another team elsewhere. Like that's why tampering exists,
Like it's a moral in that sense. It's not because
(12:45):
they're worried about the relationship. I mean, like, do you
think Tom Brady right now is free time? I mean,
given that he's probably the most eligible bachelor that is
out there, is more focused on who that next hot
linebacker coaches that they're gonna hunt.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
But I think, but but I think anybody who's been
around Tom knows how ultra competitive he is and knows that,
like and look like this is Tom's personality, like I
and I'm not saying he's doing I'm.
Speaker 7 (13:10):
Not even saying this is he doesn't want to skinner
situation to happen, you know, off the field.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
I mean, like, so he's got the Bears and Cowboys
this week. Let's just say, you know again, like he's
in a he's in a production meeting with carry Von
Diggs and Trayvon Diggs gets cut after the year. Well,
like and the Fox crew is probably going to like
that crew is probably gonna have the Cowboys five times
this year. Right, so now Brady has like such like
it has has had intimate knowledge of someone else of
(13:40):
the guy. Somebody else is, you know, cutting, and the
Raiders have a hole at corner. So now all of
a sudden, the Raiders can hit the ground running because
they know the guy is. The background work is done
and they can aggressively move and value.
Speaker 7 (13:51):
Okay, but then then why allow him to do both
in the first case?
Speaker 6 (13:54):
Like this goes back to.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
The initiative side. Now here's why. That's the interesting part
about it, right, Like to me, like, that's that is why, like,
and I don't want to make this just about Fox.
I know we're on a Fox platform here, but like
I like, I think it's like ESPN paying Joe Buck
and Troyman eighteen million dollars a year piece. Right. The
reason why ESPN did that, and both those guys are
(14:16):
phenomenal at what they do, so this is like a
credit to them, right. But the reason the SPN does
that is because ESPN wanted to get into the into
the Super Bowl rotation and the NFL. It basically signaled
the ESPN, your broadcast on Monday night right now does
not steel big enough. It does not is not it
does not elevate the game enough for us to give
(14:38):
you a super Bowl really and that was it. Yeah,
So they go and they they go and they bring
in Joe and Troy because they want they because ESPN
wanted into the super Bowl rotation. And after they get
Joe and Troy, what happens. They're into the super Bowl rotation.
The reason I'm telling that story is because the NFL
their concern is, I'm making every game seem as much
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se seem like as much of an event as they
possibly can, to build it up as much as they
possibly can, and having Tom Brady on the broadcast helps
them build up Like the games that Tom Brady's on like,
it helps build up those games. And so it's in
the NFL office's best interest to have the highest procliud
(15:20):
guide possible who can make the game feel the biggest
in the boost. Right, it's like the John Madden effect, right,
like every game when you were a kid, every game
that John Madden and Pat Summer I'll call when we
were kids was like felt like a massive game. Right,
that's the premise. And so like the feeling is the
bigger the name we have in the booths, the bigger
the game field. And so the NFL is going to
(15:42):
bend over backwards. Is the NFL league off. It's not
the owner, it's not the thirty two, but then the
NFL league off league off. It's well, yeah, we're going
to bend over backwards because we want the games to
feel as big as possible. Brady will help us do that,
which ultimately will help make the broadcast packages as valuable
as possible and help us make the most So like,
I think that that's why Brady is like that they
(16:03):
wanted this is like typical. The NFL wants this cake,
wants to have its cake and eat it too, right.
Having Brady with the Raiders was great for the Raiders
because they helped bring in all these big money guys
to change these of the franchise. You're Michael Meltman, you're
Egan Deurb and Tom Wickner's business partner. So that helps
the Raiders that help survive an iconic brand. And then
(16:24):
Tom Brady is the broadcast or helped to build up
the actual games themselves. And so it's a unique situation
because of who Tom Brady is. And you know, I
think this again is like, is there a conflict here? Yeah,
but the NFL is choosing to not worry about that
conflict and try to have it both ways.
Speaker 6 (16:45):
Albert Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. Get
him on x at Albert Breer.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
I want to ask you about the game that Brady
is calling this weekend, the Cowboys of the Bears, in particular,
Ben Johnson not shy about calling out his own team
me called out their practice habits yesterday to the media.
What are you hearing from people you talked to about
what the real concern is there? Because to me, it
(17:11):
doesn't feel like it's so much about Caleb Williams. It
feels like Ben Johnson's looking around, going we got other
issues here.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah, So I think like one of the things like
Ben Johnson felt like walking in there. This is just
my perception from what I've gathered from people in that
organization since he's got there, is that there was a
lot to clean up and that they and that, you know,
the way he wanted to build it, it was going
to be hard to get there in that first year
(17:40):
was gonna be really hard, and we talked about this.
We talked about this over the summer with Caleb specifically.
But I do think it's like a five across the organization.
So with Caleb, the whole the whole approach was, you know,
we're gonna feed him through a fire, ohs. And so
it's going to look bad early in camp, and we're
going to give him the whole offense and we're gonna
see what he can handle. We're gonna on them with information.
(18:01):
Now you can argue whether or not that's the right
way to do it, but the thought was like, let's
see what he can handle. Let's put him through everything,
and then we'll figure out what he's good at, and
we'll narrow it down and we'll lean into what he's
good at as the season goes on. And I think
that that's existing now from a you know, on on
on a on a global level with the team too,
where you look at it and you say, okay, what
(18:22):
can we do too, what can we do? What can
we do to to to jump start this place and
get this place turned around faster? And so it's being
hard on people and it's like like let's see who
survives and let's weed people out, and like let's see
who can who can handle the heat. And this is
going to be a tough program to be in. And
(18:43):
you know, I think it's it's it's interesting because I
don't think it's that different than what Dan Campbell did
in Detroit, right in the way that Dan Campbell built Detroit.
It's just a message is being delivered in a different
way by a different person. So it'll be interesting to
see the way that you see how all of that
turns out. But there's a very i'd say, like to
(19:04):
what Campbell built in Detroit. There's like a very parcels
and I would say, way about the way the Lions
were built. And you know, I feel like, you know,
you see a lot of that and Ben Johnson the
way he's trying to build it there. Just the messengers
are quite a bit different than than than than what
it looked like with the Lions.
Speaker 7 (19:22):
Hey yeah, I've got one more. Uh the Giants obviously,
you know when you look at where they're at the
record at Owen two, you kind of the sense that
there's gonna be people clamoring for Jackson Dart to start early,
start that clock on. It suited that later that being said,
Russell Wilson played phenomenal that the exception of that interception
just take me through the patients that the organization has
(19:44):
and not wanting to turn this thing over to Jackson
Dart and stick with Russell Wilson.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Yeah, so I think, like I I like to me,
it's like there's there's there's a few different elements here.
It's it's Russell Wilson's the ability to keep the Giants
relevant in the race, it's Jackson Dart's readiness, and then
you know, and then then then I think it's like
kind of the juncture of the season that you're at.
(20:10):
And so like Jackson Dart has from the beginning checked
every box and he was more ready for the NFL
than people thought. I think the Giants thought. The Giants
thought coming in that like people understold him, thinking he
was a little raw coming from Lane Kiffin's offense when
Wayne was doing some old school West Coast stuff there.
And like it's even he's even further along than they
(20:33):
thought he would be. And so the decision to make
him the backup I think was very talent just in like,
we are ready to put him in a game right
now if we need to. They put him in a
game obviously last week against Dallas, and so like they
would feel comfortable playing him now, and so like now
the pressures on Russell Wilson to keep playing the way
(20:53):
that he played last week, And then you know you
have the other piece of it, which is like where
is the team interlations into the playoff race? And they're
all in two right now. And I don't know if
you guys have looked at their schedule, but everybody in
the NFC is this year at the NFC nor and
the AFC West, and so things aren't going to get
easier on the Giants from here. So like, what does
(21:15):
that look like in week seven, Week eight, week nine?
And that's the point where you could get to where like,
even if Russell Wilson is playing well, what's right for
the Giants is for is for for for Jackson Dart
to be in there. So there are just some moving
parts there. But I do feel like it would be
comfortable playing Jackson Dart right now. And I don't think
(21:37):
the gap between the two quarterbacks is very big at all.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Abe, real quick, what about Cleveland? I mean, the conversation
being the same, I guess in terms of what my
question would be as it applies to the New York Giants,
what does Cleveland do They have Joe Flacco starting? Yeah,
(22:01):
but they're not off to a great start. What I mean,
when do the conversations get louder? When does the pressure
get become more and what do you do in this scenario?
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Well, speaking of schedules, if you look at the Brown schedule,
I mean like from here it's Packers on Sunday. I
got it up now, Packers on Sunday at Lions Vikings.
That one is in London at Steelers. So like you
could be looking at Owen six there, you know, and
(22:33):
then it loosens a little after that, you know, and
that you think you got the Dolphins, the Patriots and
the vibe. But if you're owing six, I think that's
where you start to say, okay, like do we need
to get a look at the younger guys. You know,
I felt this way from the start. Like I talked
about the gap being small between between Wilson and Dart
(22:56):
and Dart really coming along. I don't know that it's
that close to en Flaco and the rookies in Cleveland.
That said, like, you're eventually going to come to a
point where you know, it's not just about like getting
your veteran players the best chance to compete. It's going
to be about evaluating your roster based on the schedule.
How quickly do the Browns get to that point? And
(23:17):
I'm not saying their season is over, but you know,
right now they're they're zero and two and they're staring
down the barrel of what's a very difficult schedule going forward.
So you know, I certainly think we could be in
November at some point and they're in evaluation mode, which
may mean they want to get a look at at
Dylan Gabriel and shoud Or Sanders before the end of
(23:38):
the year, which could help inform what they do at
quarterback in twenty twenty six when they'll have two first
round picks.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
Get them on x at Albert Breers, senior NFL reporter,
lead content strategists at the MMQB ab we appreciate it.
I asked you about Ohio State, but they're on a
buy this week, so we'll get that.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Bet right there. Big favorites over the bye.
Speaker 6 (23:55):
We Yeah, there you go. Thanks, Aby, enjoyed the game.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
I have trouble bellows it all right there?
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