October 20, 2025 • 40 mins
The guys talk about how Father Time is undefeated and why Pete Carroll (and Bill Belichick) maybe should have stayed retired. Also, senior NFL analyst Pete Prisco joins the show to break down all the biggest storylines across the NFL, Leftovers, and more!
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And we've been talking obviously NFL, obviously college football. I
don't know if this was I don't know if there's
anything to this, but I'm watching what's happening with the Raiders.
And by the way, the Chiefs look like they're back.
Rashid Rice is back, you know, Patrick Mahomes is, you know, dominant.
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He looks like the old Patrick mahomes again. And in
saying that, the old Patrick mahllonins the other one still
went to a Super Bowl last year, So it's not
a bad place to be. But I'm watching the Raiders.
They're way they're worse than last year, right, yeah, worse
than last year, worse than I thought they'd be. I
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don't know how they beat New England to open up
the year, and it feels like and I don't know
if this is age or what to do with this,
but it does feel like Pete Carroll Bill Belichick wanted
back in so bad that maybe it was. Man, let's
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you know, let's wait a little bit.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Let maybe wait for a better opportunity or wait till
what the next lifetime.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
You may wait a little bit, just hey man, sometimes
time passes you by, bro. Like everybody nobody has beat
time yet no everybody loses. It's the eventuality of it
will be your time will come, maybe their time? Yeah,
maybe I mean Pete like stay retired, Bill, stay retired,
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stay stay out of the game like it's it's coming gone.
I don't know, you had a lot of great moments.
You would think that the process. Once you have the
process kind of mapped out, and you feel good about
how you're able to hire check the boxes, Boom hire
these guys.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
They had this type of qualification. I feel good, Boom done.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
All right, here's how we want to structure it, you know,
in terms of how we're going to go after our
personnel or how we're going to structure our personnel, teach
them brewing the off season whatever. Implementation of the you know,
strategies are the great Like you would think that coaches
to that level that have had that type of success would.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Have it just kind of, you know, implement.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
The system, the blueprint, the structure. That doesn't seem to
be playing out that way. So I don't know that
Vegas is a tough watch. Man, that's a tough watch.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah, that's one way to put it. I mean, trust me.
Speaker 6 (03:34):
I had to call one of those games and I
think Greaters fans felt like I was being unfair and
I was like, I mean, look, there's just not much
offense here, and they couldn't stop the Colts, so they
you know, I'm not really sure where you go from this,
and I hate to draw a connection between Bill Belichick
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and New England and Tom Brady, but you know, all
Bill Belichick knows is a world that he built and
that was successful with with Tom.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Brady as his quarterback.
Speaker 6 (04:07):
And there are many moving pieces as far as players
and even coaches throughout their time, but those two were
the constants and that equated to a lot of success.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I think for both of them, you.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
Know, they've had a really hard time or will continue
to have a hard time in drawing off their past
experience as a way of, you know, how they can
have success in the future.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
And just to like trying to make it make sense,
You're not finding another Tom Brady anywhere, Like, you're just not.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
So however, things worked when Tom was your quarterback and
all the different clutch times, you know, he was able
to save the team or overcome mistakes of.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Whatever else was going on. Like that's you're not finding
that guy again.
Speaker 6 (04:52):
I mean, you've got to really adapt to what you
have and try to lean into that as best you
can and build a roster that, you know, take a
page out of you know, the Eagles book. Take a
page out of you know, these other talented teams as
far as like, for example, use the forty nine ers.
The forty nine ers are an example of a team
that is a stacked roster and they've been able to
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find guys who even when they encour injuries, guys who
can step in and get the job done.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Like, figure out that formula that some of.
Speaker 6 (05:25):
These other organizations are able to imp meant to be
consistently successful.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
And then maybe you find someone who's close to Tom.
Speaker 6 (05:31):
Maybe you find someone who's who's the next iteration or
versu of that maybe or Patrick Mahomes or whoever you
want to throw in that conversation. But like, if you
look at North Carolina and you look at their lack
of success, and we've heard the reports and we've talked
about it, it was clear the talent evaluation was poor.
You know, where they're competing against a group of five
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teams for kids in the transfer portal instead of power four.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Teams, ACC teams, and so if.
Speaker 6 (05:59):
You like talent at the college football level, you will
get exposed, and they've gotten exposed.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
You can only do so much scheme wise.
Speaker 6 (06:07):
And at the NFL level, Like if you look at
Tom Brady's involvement as an owner, which it feels like
when he's in the box, when he's in the booth
during a game, like there's some heavy involvement. I mean,
did they spend a six round pick on a quarterback
out of was it North Dakota State?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (06:23):
Yeah, it as somewhere like that, yeah, which he didn't
make the roster. I mean you look at some of
the decisions you know they've made so far, who they're
bringing in, how they're doing it, and the roster construction,
and it's at some point like you know they're gonna
I mean spy Tex obviously is the general manager.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
He knows where they're at. He knows they need to
continue to build on this roster.
Speaker 6 (06:42):
They're not in that spot yet, and that's why they
brought in Pete Carroll to kind of build a foundation
for whoever to take over at some point. But the
truth of the matter is is like for a talent
evaluation standpoint, like if you're trying to recreate what you
had in New England, if you're Tom Brady, like it
just you're not able to do it.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
There's no one out out there like him.
Speaker 6 (07:03):
So like you're gonna have to find a different way
of finding that success and how you're going to go
about building a roster.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
It's not that easy, Brady.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
You play for Pete Carroll like always energetic, always like
high on energy. You watch him, his energy has been
completely taken from him, like I mean from his body.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Like he's up there in age too.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
I mean that was around him when he was eleven
year you know, eleven twelve years ago, you know, and
this is also at a time where you know he
had been in Seattle, he knew. I mean, I think
he took over in Seattle. Was it in twenty ten?
He took over twenty ten to twenty eleven somewhere in there.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Twenty yeah, twenty eleven.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Anyway, maybe it's twenty ten. Anyway.
Speaker 6 (07:49):
You know obviously that they coincide with the whatever sanctions
the NCAA had on sc But you know, the point
is when he got to Seattle, he eventually was able
to build it.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
He built up that defense he was able.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
To find I mean, he was him and John Snider
were amazing at finding diamonds in the rough. You know,
guys who were defensive linemen that they're like, you know,
they probably can't make it and have a long career
as a defensive lineman, but we'll just make him a
guard because now those guys are able to go on
that side of the football, they're able to pull their
athletic They got nastiness to him. Jared Sweezy, you know,
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first one that comes to mind. I believe he played
his college ball at NC State. I'm not mistaken. Maybe
somewhere else, but you know, you think about that and
you're like, Okay, that's kind of innovative. Like no one
talks about that as much. You know, they saw Russell
Wilson as a third round pick, but a guy who
was lightning in a bottle, you know, from his last
year Wisconsin, what he did early on at NC State
and understanding his path to get there, that he had
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something kind of to prove.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
You know. Richard Sherman, same thing.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
You know, guy who I'm not sure what the knock
on him was coming out of college, but tall, physical
defensive back. Maybe as forty time wasn't as fast as
they wanted it to be. Whatever the case is, Like,
you look back on, you know, his transition to the NFL.
What he was able to do as a cornerback, it
was incredible. And this all came from a lot of
their talent evaluation. Bobby Wagner an incredible player, but flew
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under the radar and they saw value in him. So
you know, there was pieces that they were able to
draft and develop and bring along. But you know, it's
it's just hard. It's gonna take time in Las Vegas.
I wonder how much time Mark Davis Tom Brady will
give Pete Carroll. I wonder, you know how much time
Pee Carroll wants to, you know, spend on doing this again.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
It's hard to build these.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
Things up and to go through what they're going through
right now to be able to make it to see
the other side.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
I wonder how many people still think Tom Brady is
collecting that's contributing to them winning.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
For the other team.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
Holy moly, boy, did that experiment go wrong?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Was leading to somewhere.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Maybe that's what this is about.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
We were going really fast on a highway not too
long ago. My buddy, we was driving back to State
College Man and he was following navigation.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Leon.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
I ain't want to put him out there because the
story goes bad. But it's kind of it's kind of
like what's going on with the whole story with Tom Brady.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
It's like he was driving.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
We were doing seventy because it's sixty five seventy five
speed zone, so he's doing it and he's following navigation.
But he took a wrong turn some way somehow, and
I didn't see it because I wasn't really paying close
attention to it. But nonetheless he didn't see it either.
He thought he was on the right road and he's
just driving seventy round. I'm sitting there and I'm like,
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this doesn't look right, you know, like and you're still
going fast, bro, Like.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
This is a stop?
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Like how about that? Hey, bro?
Speaker 7 (10:49):
Stop?
Speaker 5 (10:50):
We stopped on God, if I had to say it stop.
When I said stop, we were going to drive off
a daddy at.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
The road ended. It was dark.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
It was dark outside.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
It was dark, so I don't know what was on
the other side of that embankment or whatever it is
that we were hitting straight for you, boy could have.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Been up out of here, Canada.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
But that's kind of like we were in Pennsylvania, bro,
I mean, you could end up in Canada. Kind of soda, right,
outside of Pittsburgh. But anyway, here's the point I'm making, right,
that's a road that that has a did end to it.
Right now, I don't I don't see how you can
draw any type of conclusions that there's there's any type
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of competitive advantage that Tom Brady because he's doing color
for for games is is a problem.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Yeah, those those that paranoia in those.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Tapes that should be gone, Yeah, those are gone. Didn't gone.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
That didn't that didn't land well, didn't end up well? Rather,
but I just yeah, and how about the way Bill
Belichick lost the last game?
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Though? Man, you actually had the game one. Yeah, you
got to take the L and the L column and
you had the gay one.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
But you know what, though, Michael Lombardi's going over to
Sadi trying to get some of that money. I mean,
the things could change here in a hurry if you
get some of that, you know, into the system here
and then how does that how does that work out?
Like how does that play out? Like where does that
that Saudi money go? Like how do you wash it
for them kids to get it legitimately or.
Speaker 8 (12:20):
Do you even have to wash it or do you
even have to watch it? What they're looking for donors money.
They're looking there's your kid. Would your kid love to
come to Chapel Hill. I mean, like we have one
of the better educational systems in the world. You know,
it's it's not that hard to go over and pitch
and you know, explain to someone, come to America. We'll
give you a great education, a great experience, you know,
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safe place. What you know, a lot of people sign
up for that.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
What you mean, what what sales pitch?
Speaker 2 (12:51):
It's a sales pitch man.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
Come over the kids up over here and be safe
and bring your gazillion dollars with you, Like you got
your a zillion dollars there.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah, they're like, oh, what do we have to do?
Speaker 6 (13:02):
Ah, you just have to do it eight you know,
ten million to the collective or a football team or
the university.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Drop of the bucket, all right, nothing saty money.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Huh hey, hey, you know all right, if you got
you got to pick one. Who's the worst team in
the NFL?
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Jets? I think, without a doubt, the Jets. I think
it's tight.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
They've got too much talent. I think the Saints are
up there.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
I think that's what makes them the worst team. In
the league that they have so much talent and they
and they don't win.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
And this was the year that you bought into them, No,
I didn't.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
What do you said they would finish last?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
The Browns defense, I.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Said, suggests would finish last.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
The The Dolphins are are playing some really bad foot.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
They're playing really bad brand.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
And there's the Titans. The Titans are probably the worst.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
The Titans are probably the worst, but the Jets are
right there with them, though, I'm telling you, at least
the Titans.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Jets are a win list. My question is do the
Jets go winless this season?
Speaker 5 (14:06):
They go in seventeen somebody, They're gonna clip somebody, They're
gonna trap game somebody.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
I mean Panthers.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
If you look at their schedule, Bud, the Panthers were
the one where I was like, oh, they could win
that one.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Panthers are improving. They are say they are. They've got
the Browns coming the next two weeks. They got to
get one right, like something late in the year. Maybe Atlanta,
I think I don't.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Think it makes those types of games and more intriguing though,
like you see a Browns play a Jets Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Atlanta has like got offensive firepower.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Like always let down vibes of Atlanta.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
I mean, I would say that hosting the Dolphins. By
December's December seventh, they're hosting the Dolphins game.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
That's a tough ticket to get, guys.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
They'll be calling the Dolphins you know. Oh yeah, that's
a CBS gam as of now. So I swaps this, but.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
I can't wait to it. I like where you were going.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
I can't wait, can't wait to announces. Just a terrible game,
and I've got to call on you guys, just dumping
all over it.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
No, that'll make me want to watch it. Yeah yeah,
not me support not me, Nope, nope, I'll listen to it. Now,
listen to your call without the without the picture on
the screen.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Wow, you're not gonna hurt your eyes.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Hell no.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
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Speaker 7 (17:20):
Good morning, what's going on, guys?
Speaker 11 (17:22):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (17:24):
We are good? I wanted to start you off with
a softball here if you don't mind. Worst team in
the NFL is who the Jets.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
I don't think you work.
Speaker 7 (17:36):
I mean, look, they're awful and it's not just the offense,
but like defentively they've been a little bit better, but
they leave the league in mistackles. I mean that's for
an Aaron Glenn team.
Speaker 11 (17:49):
Give me a break.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
And then you've got a quarterback situation that's a messa.
Speaker 11 (17:53):
Matter who plays, they both are bad.
Speaker 7 (17:55):
You know they didn't protect the quarterback in the last
two weeks and they don't have Wilson's on the game,
they don't have one receiver who scares you one bit,
and so you look at it, it's just a mess
and they got a lot of work to do. And look,
is it possible they go one and done with the
head coach? It's possible. I don't think you'd do that.
I don't think you should do that, but it's certainly
looking like it's possible.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Dang jeez, Pete. I mean the Titans on in that
conversation too.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
Well, I mean they got Will Levis two point zero
playing quarterback for him, so maybe they is.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
That a good thing or a bad thing because you're
a big Will loves fan.
Speaker 9 (18:33):
No.
Speaker 7 (18:33):
Look, I just like to say that though. And I
work with rand Cards on every Sunday and I sit
there and they tell them and the same thing is.
The bottom line is Will Levis was just ripped the
shreds last year for a lot of dumb things he did,
and rightfully so. But this guy's numbers are just a
worse dan Ward has been worse. And it's you know,
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everybody always goes, well.
Speaker 11 (18:58):
What does he have?
Speaker 7 (18:59):
Well, Will Levis had it didn't have anything either. And
so if I'm Tennessee and I drafted that guy first
overall and granted and fairness to him.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
He is a rookie. I mean that wasn't Will Levis's
rookie season last.
Speaker 7 (19:11):
Year, Okay, but you want to put Will Levis's rookie
season on there.
Speaker 11 (19:14):
He was pretty darn good. I mean, you know his
numbers were better.
Speaker 6 (19:17):
So so you're basically saying that that they should be
playing Will Levis, like you weren't wrong.
Speaker 7 (19:22):
No, I'm saying it's a bad it's a bad situation
for whoever plays quarterback, and there you and so I
think that's that's why we rush, like you always say, Brady,
we rushed the judgments on these quarterbacks and the situation matters,
and that situation bad.
Speaker 11 (19:38):
It's bad. It's a bad situation, but not worse than
the New York Jets.
Speaker 7 (19:44):
No, at least cam Ward gives the organization some hope,
does justin Fields or tyrod Tawer give you hope. No,
And I think the Jets were looking at it. Here's
you're the Jets, and you look across and you see
the same you play the same stadium, and you see
the Jackson Dart doing what he's doing for the Jets
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for the Giants. Now, he's not great, but he's giving
him light and giving him some energy. Are you glad
you drafted Membo when you did instead of taking a
quarterback because they they went into the season. Brady's thinking, maybe,
oh well, next year's quarterback class is going to be great?
Is it? Is it great right now?
Speaker 2 (20:24):
I don't think looking good right now? No, you're right
not looking us good right now?
Speaker 5 (20:27):
Iikes. I'll tell you who is looking good. Daniel Jones
is looking good. How you feel about this Colts team
right now?
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Pete? Is it fools gold or are they for real?
Speaker 7 (20:39):
I think they're for real? And I didn't believe that
until yesterday. I was one of those cynics doubters. Look
at their schedule and yeah, the Chargers are banged up,
But when you go out there and handle them the
way they do in your averaging thirty three points a game,
they're for real. And Daniel Jones is playing really good football.
But Jonathan Taylors playing great football, and the offensive line
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has been fantastic by the way. You know, they let
two guys walking free agency, Kelly and Freeze two veterans,
and they put Bordolini and Conclaves in there, and they've
been better. The line's been better. And when you have
a good line, as you find out around this league
like the Eagles are finding out, you know that what
it was like to have the great line and difference
between having an okay line. If you have a good
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offensive line, you're gonna run the ball, You're gonna take
the pressure off of the quarterback, and the quarterback can
stand back there and make throws and and Stikeen's done
a great job of getting the ball down the field
the playmaker's hands. Your Penn State tight end has been fantastic.
Speaker 11 (21:36):
Rookie Warren, he's.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
Been great the best right, Yeah, like almost like Rookie
of the Year type action.
Speaker 7 (21:42):
He's been fantastic.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Wow, there's something positive about State this year.
Speaker 11 (21:47):
You know they have something better than.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
What's that he's brou He's better than a He's having
some serious impact.
Speaker 7 (21:57):
Look, it's going to be a tight race, but he's
definitely in the conversation. But I love what Stiking right
now would be co through the year in the NFL.
I don't think there's any doubt about that.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
All right, Pete.
Speaker 6 (22:10):
Oh god, no, I was just gonna ask him, how
would you describe what happened in the Giants Broncos game.
Would that be a defensive collapse or would you say
it's a team loss there for the Giants.
Speaker 7 (22:22):
That's a collapse. That's a choke. That's like sticking your
finger in your throat and gagging.
Speaker 11 (22:27):
That's what that's.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
Yeah, but who are you put it on? You put
on the entire team or the defense.
Speaker 7 (22:31):
Pete, the entire team. I put it on the entire team.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
I mean the right quarterback would give give that point
to LeVar, give it to var That's all right, Cue, Yeah,
I got you know, make your point.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
Go ahead, make your point, Pete.
Speaker 7 (22:44):
Would's point because I'll see if I might agree with him.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
No, No, I'm just saying, well you already you just
didn't Yeah, you just did.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
We do this sometimes with you on the show. We
just don't tell you.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Yeah, that's all.
Speaker 9 (22:53):
Well.
Speaker 7 (22:53):
No, So the quarterbacks interception was horrible and third down
you can't do that, you know that in that situation,
that gave him life, that gave him hope. They scored
thirty three points in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 11 (23:03):
I mean that give me a break, and.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
So that's what we felt like. It was more of
a defensive.
Speaker 11 (23:07):
Letdown a little bit, you know what'd you say?
Speaker 2 (23:09):
That's why I said it was more of a defensive letdown.
Speaker 7 (23:12):
No, it's a combination of all of them. When you
give up an interception like that, Brady, that's terrible. But
here's the others. But you know what, at the end,
it was a defensive letdown because they went down and
got to go ahead points on a drive that if
you were if they would have won that game on
that drive, it would have talked it up to game
winning drive for Jackson Dart. He now has x amount
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of game winning drives. He threw one pass that was
completed for about fifteen yards, then got a personal foul
for rough of the passer on that drive, then got
a what forty five yard pass interference penalty on the drive,
and then they scored the touchdown game winning drive for
Jackson Dart. If they had won the game, give me
a preade. So and Sean Payton, by the way, got
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one of the great penalties of all time because it
was a half an inch or a yard whatever it was.
Remember when he came out on the field to play
think about to pay it was, yeah, and so then
let the defense did let him down in that scenario
because you got to can't allow them to go down
and get that field goal. So it's a combination of
both the interception, the collapse of the defense, and you know,
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just some dumb things that they did in that game.
And Denver wasn't great either, by the way, but bo
Nicks in the first half two for eighty nine yards
and was awful, and then somehow in the fourth quarter
came alive. I don't understand. It's the third game. He's
done that, Pete.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Do you think if Russell Wilson was starting for the
Giants that would have won that game?
Speaker 7 (24:34):
Hell no, he would have thrown three picks by halftime
and they would have been buried. No, I mean, come on,
I mean, did you see when Jackson dark hurt his
ankle and Russell Wilson got up and started warming up,
and everybody like went over there, get up, get up,
get up, Jackson, get up.
Speaker 11 (24:50):
But I have that guy go back in there.
Speaker 7 (24:53):
He's done.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
Amb Pete.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
What about Pittsburgh? They just took an ale? But how
are you how are you looking at Aaron Rodgers. How
are you looking at them? Are they fools gold or
are they Are they legitimate contenders out.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Of the AFC.
Speaker 7 (25:10):
I didn't think they were fools gold until the other
day when that defense was horrible and you had a
team in the Bengals who went into that game had
not rushed one rushing play over thirteen yards on the
entire season and went in and ran it on them,
just gaping holes. Then you look at the passing defense.
(25:31):
Oh my god, Dalen Ramsey looked terrible the other night.
So you look at that secondary Darius Slay, Dalen Ramsey, old,
Chuck Clark.
Speaker 11 (25:43):
I mean, it's old and they played old and.
Speaker 7 (25:46):
That's a problem. And so it'll be interesting. They played
Green Bay this week.
Speaker 11 (25:50):
It'll be interesting to.
Speaker 7 (25:51):
See if Mike Tomain can get them to bounce back.
By the way, they don't do a lot of things
on defense. You know, in an era when you got
teams and creative stuff on the back end. They're not
nearly as creative as some of the other teams. And
so I think they have a problem on defense the
age combination with the fact that they're pretty predictable. You
saw what Jay said. They said they.
Speaker 11 (26:11):
Knew what they were doing.
Speaker 7 (26:12):
Everybody knows what they're doing.
Speaker 11 (26:13):
They're the Steelers.
Speaker 7 (26:13):
They do the same thing, and so that's a problem.
And by the way, PJ. Watt is not a kid.
Cam Hayward's not a kid. They got they have age
issues on that defense.
Speaker 6 (26:23):
Gotta love Pete Prisco using agism as a way of
uh comments against the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Brady Brady by the way, why why people?
Speaker 11 (26:31):
How old are you right now? How old are you
right now?
Speaker 2 (26:33):
I'll be forty one here surely?
Speaker 7 (26:36):
Okay, so you're eighty two, So you got me about
you got me. Don't worry about it. You're double the
years when you play football.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
Pete, if you don't mind, I would like to I
don't know if this is the best way of doing this,
but I'd like to read through a text conversation that
you know was maybe had at some point between you
and I Saturday night, because as most would would you know,
I'm not sure if they realize this or not, but
you are an Arizona State sun devil, and you've got
(27:03):
a love hate relationship with your school.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
And we won't get into the details of why that is.
Speaker 6 (27:08):
But I happen to reach out to you because Arizona
State is playing a top ten team in Texas Tech.
They look to be the best team in the Big Twelve,
albeit without their starting quarterback. Still good football team. And
I just happened to text you your boys are hanging tough.
And then you reply just went forward on fourth and
two in his own end like an idiot, and I said, oh,
(27:30):
I'm behind because I was traveling at this point.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Just gave them life. Please tell me he's going to
Pennsas State.
Speaker 6 (27:36):
Then you got a spiral into this you want your
coach gone, and then at the end of the text conversation,
you text me that guy can flat out coach?
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Can you talk me through your emotions? During the Arizona
State win over Texas.
Speaker 7 (27:52):
Tech, I was sitting watching the game with my wife
and we were having a few coils, and so I
was getting worked up a little bit because I was
he I think Kenny Dillingham's done a great job building
the program, but I think he lacks he lacks some
decision making on game day. And I've said it before.
Speaker 11 (28:14):
To you, Brady, I don't.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
You don't back down.
Speaker 7 (28:19):
No, I I still believe that why.
Speaker 11 (28:21):
Would you go for it?
Speaker 7 (28:22):
Fourth to two in your own en it made no sense.
It was a dumb decision, and it nearly cost him
the game. But having said that, I think he's a
great program builder and what he's done there has been fantastic.
So maybe, you know, allow somebody else to influence his
game time decisions a little bit and they'll be fine.
Because I go back, I go back across the landscape.
B YU at the end of that game, what his
(28:43):
game time decision almost it was it was a travesty.
If you could, if you could do what not to
do at the end of the game against b YU
last year, it was nearly cost him the game and
it was a it was a how not to that
was terrible. Okay, fourth and he calls time out. They
call time out against Texas last year in the playoffs game,
they show zero blitz, they call time out, They come
(29:05):
back out. What they do they ran zero blitz again,
Golden up the field for a touchdown. They lose the
game Mississippi State. Late in the game, zero blitz against
the against the wide receiver who I think runs like
track times on the.
Speaker 11 (29:18):
In the one hundred meters, lose the game.
Speaker 7 (29:21):
And then the other day he did that. So game
time decisions bother me. Program building I love and I'm
happy where they're at. But if you continue to have
bad coaching on game day, you're going to have problems
sustainable success to win big games. That's all. That's all.
That was my complaint. It was fueled by a few
did at the bar and have a few cocktails and
(29:42):
then so yeah, it was.
Speaker 11 (29:43):
It was a good experience.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Love it, absolutely love it.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
It was a great guy. A conversation point, huh for
for it? You basically just say you was faded, Pete. Yeah,
you were faded. You was faded in texta.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
What you drink a choice Pete during an Arizona State game?
Speaker 7 (29:58):
Uh? In in Cranberry's.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
What I was light on the cran or heavy?
Speaker 6 (30:05):
Yeah, you know, but it depends.
Speaker 7 (30:07):
It was early in the days, not early to day.
But you know, when you day drinking, you're handy on
the on the on the t you got to go
a little.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
Like pizza cocktail guy, not a beer guy.
Speaker 7 (30:18):
I'm mixing a beer. No, I'll mix in some light
beers here. You gotta change the pace every now.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
And you're a mick ult guy, aren't you.
Speaker 7 (30:25):
No, I'm a Miller like.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Guy, Okay, Miller, you look like.
Speaker 7 (30:29):
How about you, LeVar?
Speaker 11 (30:30):
What do you? Let's hear your drinking choice. I can't
wait for you.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
I have LeVar Allen's and I have Stick City Wheat
Citrus l When I have them, that's that's what I do.
Speaker 7 (30:41):
Okay, and Brady is a court Brady going. So I'm
gonna drink the highest and Scott you can find.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
I drink a bit of everything, drink a bit of
I will say this of the domestics, I'm not into
the Nicolaches. I've always called them that ever since Nikola
Shan and Jessica Simpson had that reality TV show, because
you would exclusively drink Miller light. Uh, bud light not
as good as core as light in my opinion, you know.
(31:10):
And Michelo Ultras I only do after I work out
because I feel like that's what their commercials are. It's
always like people who are like working out or I
remember when they first came out, they're like running around
the track and I'm like, yeah, that's the first thing
people do. They like they go run around the track
and go run two miles and they're grabbing a Michelo
Ultras but it worked on me because every time I
work out and I'm like, I want to Michelo ultra
(31:30):
right now, I'll do again.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
It's it just depends. I'm all over the place. I'll
do whatever.
Speaker 7 (31:35):
What type againness that you just grab the closest bottle
and start drinking.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Like yeah. Jonas Jonas is an I p A guy.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Like rolling rock too, roll a big rolling rock guy.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Trope p A.
Speaker 7 (31:50):
Yeah, oh you're you're that guy that goes and gets skilled.
Speaker 11 (31:52):
I'll have that pale l that you happen.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Yes, it's bad if I go to if I go to.
Speaker 11 (32:00):
One of those places and they don't have it like
a middle I'm leaving. Yeah, I'm not drinking.
Speaker 7 (32:05):
I'm not drinking your I'm not drinking whatever they call it,
the wheat barley, you know, gimme's uh mixed brew.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Jonas Jonas is a cypers like I have your local
I p A.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Yeah, you got to sample the goods, you know.
Speaker 7 (32:20):
Yeah, man, let's see what you got the little the
little tray of like little samplers where you get like
five of the more and see whatever.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Is working with. I mean, LeVar is supposed to send
us some of his that's coming.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Bro, I told you no, it is.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
I just had to go.
Speaker 7 (32:35):
He promised and didn't delivered.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
I'm gonna send you some too. I just got to
get a few things cleared up.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
I didn't want to ask you before we let you go.
Just for some further contacts on a tweet you sent
yesterday where you wrote, quote, hey coaches, it's okay to
take points on fourth and seven? What was that was?
Speaker 7 (32:54):
That was in the morning game when Liam Cohne went
for a fourth and seven instead of kicking a field goal. Now,
his twelve year old field goal kicker had just missed about,
you know, fourth grade kick, and so he's got to
start making his kicks. But it was a point.
Speaker 11 (33:11):
It would have been a thirty five yeard field goal.
You got to get points on the you gotta get points.
It was twenty one nothing, but you gotta get points.
Make it twenty one three. And he and he didn't.
Speaker 7 (33:18):
So he's not alone. And and so I think these
guys they got to they get too caught up in
the emotion of the game. Kick your damn field goal.
Speaker 11 (33:25):
Make it twenty one three.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Right. The Great Pete Prisco, Senior NFL columnist for CBS
sports analysts.
Speaker 11 (33:37):
Is Brady.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Yeah there, why you're laughing at him? I think he's
a good coach. I think his names I think his
name's coming up from other jobs right now.
Speaker 7 (33:48):
Hey, yeah, I know I knew that. That's why I
said Penn State have him. No, let's just get that.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
I think, don't like, don't be getting like, don't be
doing that, Pete. We don't do like sloppy seconds like that. Man,
that's not our man. You know, we're trying to We're
trying to get things right.
Speaker 7 (34:03):
I have a guy who out the door, who can't
win three games in a row against fat.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Damn.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
I mean, challenge yourself a little bit more, Pete. I
mean that was a low hanging fruit there, bro Like,
I mean, can you do a little better? You know,
like you want to kick you? You want to kick
me while I'm down. I thought we were friends, Pete,
we are friends.
Speaker 7 (34:21):
But you're not You're not mad at Penn State. You
should be mad, you know what.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
I'm certainly not happy. I am not happy. I'm just hoping.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
I will always defend well, I'll defend coach Franklin, I'll
defend Penn State. I'm just a defender of my school.
Speaker 11 (34:40):
That's all, Well, you know what you can do.
Speaker 7 (34:41):
You can defend them when you're watching the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (34:47):
Actually, Pete, Jeremiah Love, I know you hate taking running
backs in the first round.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Is he not a kid you're taking the first round?
Speaker 7 (34:57):
I would think about it at the back end. Jesus,
by the way, Brady, and.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Don't you're gonna let Kansas City get him? Is that
what's gonna happen?
Speaker 11 (35:05):
Draft?
Speaker 7 (35:06):
They actually like the other Notre Dame running back more.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Pick your poison, dude, pick your points.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
By the way, there's lightweight like Brady Quinn palin on
me as well, like Pete Prisco like assassinates me and
my school just then.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
And then Brady jumps on.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
Oh, by the way, while we're talking about it, no
talk to me about first round draft picks and running
backs out.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
He doesn't the one that Notre Dame like.
Speaker 6 (35:33):
What's what's what's funny is this is a long running
thing with Pete. Pete teams draft running backs in the
first round.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
And the running state too, and and k Tron is
still balling out. He is still he's trying to win
by himself. Seemingly looks Doc.
Speaker 7 (35:52):
Has gone way up and he might go ahead of
the other guy at Penn State.
Speaker 11 (35:54):
So that's interesting to hear that.
Speaker 7 (35:56):
But yeah, Brady, I have heard the running back the
other the backup running back is and Notre Dame.
Speaker 11 (36:00):
They love them.
Speaker 6 (36:02):
I wouldn't even call them a backup. I think they're
one A, one B and I think that's how they
look at them.
Speaker 7 (36:06):
So, by the way, is our bet still we still
have that bet going on who wins more games. But
your schedule is a joke, right because the big twelves
are gon let Okay, Well, I mean it's a little
tougher than what you what you got left on that schedule.
Speaker 11 (36:20):
I mean it's like, well, it's.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Your point, there's nothing left, but was there was another state?
Speaker 11 (36:23):
Have not much?
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Okay, yeah, thanks for coming out.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
Well I will put Louisiana Hot Sauce on both y'alls teams,
grill y'all up in each we possibly could.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Can we appreciate you.
Speaker 7 (36:35):
We'll do it again next week, all right, guys, take care?
Speaker 5 (36:39):
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Speaker 2 (38:01):
Well? I was watching some football. Oh no, I know,
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Speaker 4 (38:07):
I love watching football.
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Speaker 4 (38:10):
Because of you guys, so I appreciate you.
Speaker 12 (38:12):
I know you all have varying stances on the tush
push And did you guys see what the Vikings did
their attempt to stop the Eagles. I want to know
how you feel about them putting their player horizontally on
that line.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Hind up sideways horizontally on that line. It didn't work.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
You're clearly not going.
Speaker 5 (38:31):
To push them back at this point, so maybe trying
to hit them from an angle could prove to be beneficial.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (38:39):
I also love the creativity and the thought process behind it.
Right kind of almost stymies their ability to get lower
because they got to go over a guy, so they're
immediately losing that. Like low Man wins theory knowing some
of the guys in the staff up in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
It's funny, like they have studied this. They have repped
not only how to run the tush push, but trying
to how to stop it. And this is their like
theory behind it.
Speaker 6 (39:05):
So at least someone's doing something different to try to
stop this thing. Uh, give the Vikings a lot of credit.
They're trying thing about that.
Speaker 5 (39:15):
I would just lay a body down right in front
of the in front of the ball, like hey, buddies,
and essen's what they did.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
Yeah, well, lay them on the ground. They just lay down.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
Maybe they should spend more time stopping DeVante Smith next time.
Maybe that could have helped out their ride Game five
because he went off yesterday.
Speaker 5 (39:34):
He was throwing that ball now, I mean they had
a bounce back. Can't sit there and say they didn't
have a bounce bag. People was really really going hard
on their offense.
Speaker 6 (39:44):
Know why, Like they get so emotional and philly about this,
Like they know they can do it, they just don't
need to do it all the time, especially when you
got Saquon in the backfield, Like I don't, I don't
know why, Like everyone gets all upsetting up in arms
about it.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
You know, I don't know, but he does throw them
hooks up.
Speaker 5 (40:03):
I will say that, who yeah thro the Jonas, Yeah,
throws up.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
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And we've been talking obviously NFL, obviously college football. I
don't know if this was I don't know if there's
anything to this, but I'm watching what's happening with the Raiders.
And by the way, the Chiefs look like they're back.
Rashid Rice is back, you know, Patrick Mahomes is, you know, dominant.
(01:23):
He looks like the old Patrick mahomes again. And in
saying that, the old Patrick mahllonins the other one still
went to a Super Bowl last year, So it's not
a bad place to be. But I'm watching the Raiders.
They're way they're worse than last year, right, yeah, worse
than last year, worse than I thought they'd be. I
(01:45):
don't know how they beat New England to open up
the year, and it feels like and I don't know
if this is age or what to do with this,
but it does feel like Pete Carroll Bill Belichick wanted
back in so bad that maybe it was. Man, let's
(02:06):
you know, let's wait a little bit.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Let maybe wait for a better opportunity or wait till
what the next lifetime.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
You may wait a little bit, just hey man, sometimes
time passes you by, bro. Like everybody nobody has beat
time yet no everybody loses. It's the eventuality of it
will be your time will come, maybe their time? Yeah,
maybe I mean Pete like stay retired, Bill, stay retired,
(02:36):
stay stay out of the game like it's it's coming gone.
I don't know, you had a lot of great moments.
You would think that the process. Once you have the
process kind of mapped out, and you feel good about
how you're able to hire check the boxes, Boom hire
these guys.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
They had this type of qualification. I feel good, Boom done.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
All right, here's how we want to structure it, you know,
in terms of how we're going to go after our
personnel or how we're going to structure our personnel, teach
them brewing the off season whatever. Implementation of the you know,
strategies are the great Like you would think that coaches
to that level that have had that type of success would.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Have it just kind of, you know, implement.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
The system, the blueprint, the structure. That doesn't seem to
be playing out that way. So I don't know that
Vegas is a tough watch. Man, that's a tough watch.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah, that's one way to put it. I mean, trust me.
Speaker 6 (03:34):
I had to call one of those games and I
think Greaters fans felt like I was being unfair and
I was like, I mean, look, there's just not much
offense here, and they couldn't stop the Colts, so they
you know, I'm not really sure where you go from this,
and I hate to draw a connection between Bill Belichick
(03:56):
and New England and Tom Brady, but you know, all
Bill Belichick knows is a world that he built and
that was successful with with Tom.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Brady as his quarterback.
Speaker 6 (04:07):
And there are many moving pieces as far as players
and even coaches throughout their time, but those two were
the constants and that equated to a lot of success.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I think for both of them, you.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
Know, they've had a really hard time or will continue
to have a hard time in drawing off their past
experience as a way of, you know, how they can
have success in the future.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
And just to like trying to make it make sense,
You're not finding another Tom Brady anywhere, Like, you're just not.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
So however, things worked when Tom was your quarterback and
all the different clutch times, you know, he was able
to save the team or overcome mistakes of.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Whatever else was going on. Like that's you're not finding
that guy again.
Speaker 6 (04:52):
I mean, you've got to really adapt to what you
have and try to lean into that as best you
can and build a roster that, you know, take a
page out of you know, the Eagles book. Take a
page out of you know, these other talented teams as
far as like, for example, use the forty nine ers.
The forty nine ers are an example of a team
that is a stacked roster and they've been able to
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find guys who even when they encour injuries, guys who
can step in and get the job done.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Like, figure out that formula that some of.
Speaker 6 (05:25):
These other organizations are able to imp meant to be
consistently successful.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
And then maybe you find someone who's close to Tom.
Speaker 6 (05:31):
Maybe you find someone who's who's the next iteration or
versu of that maybe or Patrick Mahomes or whoever you
want to throw in that conversation. But like, if you
look at North Carolina and you look at their lack
of success, and we've heard the reports and we've talked
about it, it was clear the talent evaluation was poor.
You know, where they're competing against a group of five
(05:52):
teams for kids in the transfer portal instead of power four.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Teams, ACC teams, and so if.
Speaker 6 (05:59):
You like talent at the college football level, you will
get exposed, and they've gotten exposed.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
You can only do so much scheme wise.
Speaker 6 (06:07):
And at the NFL level, Like if you look at
Tom Brady's involvement as an owner, which it feels like
when he's in the box, when he's in the booth
during a game, like there's some heavy involvement. I mean,
did they spend a six round pick on a quarterback
out of was it North Dakota State?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (06:23):
Yeah, it as somewhere like that, yeah, which he didn't
make the roster. I mean you look at some of
the decisions you know they've made so far, who they're
bringing in, how they're doing it, and the roster construction,
and it's at some point like you know they're gonna
I mean spy Tex obviously is the general manager.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
He knows where they're at. He knows they need to
continue to build on this roster.
Speaker 6 (06:42):
They're not in that spot yet, and that's why they
brought in Pete Carroll to kind of build a foundation
for whoever to take over at some point. But the
truth of the matter is is like for a talent
evaluation standpoint, like if you're trying to recreate what you
had in New England, if you're Tom Brady, like it
just you're not able to do it.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
There's no one out out there like him.
Speaker 6 (07:03):
So like you're gonna have to find a different way
of finding that success and how you're going to go
about building a roster.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
It's not that easy, Brady.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
You play for Pete Carroll like always energetic, always like
high on energy. You watch him, his energy has been
completely taken from him, like I mean from his body.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Like he's up there in age too.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
I mean that was around him when he was eleven
year you know, eleven twelve years ago, you know, and
this is also at a time where you know he
had been in Seattle, he knew. I mean, I think
he took over in Seattle. Was it in twenty ten?
He took over twenty ten to twenty eleven somewhere in there.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Twenty yeah, twenty eleven.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Anyway, maybe it's twenty ten. Anyway.
Speaker 6 (07:49):
You know obviously that they coincide with the whatever sanctions
the NCAA had on sc But you know, the point
is when he got to Seattle, he eventually was able
to build it.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
He built up that defense he was able.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
To find I mean, he was him and John Snider
were amazing at finding diamonds in the rough. You know,
guys who were defensive linemen that they're like, you know,
they probably can't make it and have a long career
as a defensive lineman, but we'll just make him a
guard because now those guys are able to go on
that side of the football, they're able to pull their
athletic They got nastiness to him. Jared Sweezy, you know,
(08:21):
first one that comes to mind. I believe he played
his college ball at NC State. I'm not mistaken. Maybe
somewhere else, but you know, you think about that and
you're like, Okay, that's kind of innovative. Like no one
talks about that as much. You know, they saw Russell
Wilson as a third round pick, but a guy who
was lightning in a bottle, you know, from his last
year Wisconsin, what he did early on at NC State
and understanding his path to get there, that he had
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something kind of to prove.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
You know. Richard Sherman, same thing.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
You know, guy who I'm not sure what the knock
on him was coming out of college, but tall, physical
defensive back. Maybe as forty time wasn't as fast as
they wanted it to be. Whatever the case is, Like,
you look back on, you know, his transition to the NFL.
What he was able to do as a cornerback, it
was incredible. And this all came from a lot of
their talent evaluation. Bobby Wagner an incredible player, but flew
(09:08):
under the radar and they saw value in him. So
you know, there was pieces that they were able to
draft and develop and bring along. But you know, it's
it's just hard. It's gonna take time in Las Vegas.
I wonder how much time Mark Davis Tom Brady will
give Pete Carroll. I wonder, you know how much time
Pee Carroll wants to, you know, spend on doing this again.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
It's hard to build these.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
Things up and to go through what they're going through
right now to be able to make it to see
the other side.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
I wonder how many people still think Tom Brady is
collecting that's contributing to them winning.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
For the other team.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
Holy moly, boy, did that experiment go wrong?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Was leading to somewhere.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Maybe that's what this is about.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
We were going really fast on a highway not too
long ago. My buddy, we was driving back to State
College Man and he was following navigation.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Leon.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
I ain't want to put him out there because the
story goes bad. But it's kind of it's kind of
like what's going on with the whole story with Tom Brady.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
It's like he was driving.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
We were doing seventy because it's sixty five seventy five
speed zone, so he's doing it and he's following navigation.
But he took a wrong turn some way somehow, and
I didn't see it because I wasn't really paying close
attention to it. But nonetheless he didn't see it either.
He thought he was on the right road and he's
just driving seventy round. I'm sitting there and I'm like,
(10:38):
this doesn't look right, you know, like and you're still
going fast, bro, Like.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
This is a stop?
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Like how about that? Hey, bro?
Speaker 7 (10:49):
Stop?
Speaker 5 (10:50):
We stopped on God, if I had to say it stop.
When I said stop, we were going to drive off
a daddy at.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
The road ended. It was dark.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
It was dark outside.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
It was dark, so I don't know what was on
the other side of that embankment or whatever it is
that we were hitting straight for you, boy could have.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Been up out of here, Canada.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
But that's kind of like we were in Pennsylvania, bro,
I mean, you could end up in Canada. Kind of soda, right,
outside of Pittsburgh. But anyway, here's the point I'm making, right,
that's a road that that has a did end to it.
Right now, I don't I don't see how you can
draw any type of conclusions that there's there's any type
(11:31):
of competitive advantage that Tom Brady because he's doing color
for for games is is a problem.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Yeah, those those that paranoia in those.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Tapes that should be gone, Yeah, those are gone. Didn't gone.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
That didn't that didn't land well, didn't end up well? Rather,
but I just yeah, and how about the way Bill
Belichick lost the last game?
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Though? Man, you actually had the game one. Yeah, you
got to take the L and the L column and
you had the gay one.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
But you know what, though, Michael Lombardi's going over to
Sadi trying to get some of that money. I mean,
the things could change here in a hurry if you
get some of that, you know, into the system here
and then how does that how does that work out?
Like how does that play out? Like where does that
that Saudi money go? Like how do you wash it
for them kids to get it legitimately or.
Speaker 8 (12:20):
Do you even have to wash it or do you
even have to watch it? What they're looking for donors money.
They're looking there's your kid. Would your kid love to
come to Chapel Hill. I mean, like we have one
of the better educational systems in the world. You know,
it's it's not that hard to go over and pitch
and you know, explain to someone, come to America. We'll
give you a great education, a great experience, you know,
(12:42):
safe place. What you know, a lot of people sign
up for that.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
What you mean, what what sales pitch?
Speaker 2 (12:51):
It's a sales pitch man.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
Come over the kids up over here and be safe
and bring your gazillion dollars with you, Like you got
your a zillion dollars there.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah, they're like, oh, what do we have to do?
Speaker 6 (13:02):
Ah, you just have to do it eight you know,
ten million to the collective or a football team or
the university.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Drop of the bucket, all right, nothing saty money.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Huh hey, hey, you know all right, if you got
you got to pick one. Who's the worst team in
the NFL?
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Jets? I think, without a doubt, the Jets. I think
it's tight.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
They've got too much talent. I think the Saints are
up there.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
I think that's what makes them the worst team. In
the league that they have so much talent and they
and they don't win.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
And this was the year that you bought into them, No,
I didn't.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
What do you said they would finish last?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
The Browns defense, I.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Said, suggests would finish last.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
The The Dolphins are are playing some really bad foot.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
They're playing really bad brand.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
And there's the Titans. The Titans are probably the worst.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
The Titans are probably the worst, but the Jets are
right there with them, though, I'm telling you, at least
the Titans.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Jets are a win list. My question is do the
Jets go winless this season?
Speaker 5 (14:06):
They go in seventeen somebody, They're gonna clip somebody, They're
gonna trap game somebody.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
I mean Panthers.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
If you look at their schedule, Bud, the Panthers were
the one where I was like, oh, they could win
that one.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Panthers are improving. They are say they are. They've got
the Browns coming the next two weeks. They got to
get one right, like something late in the year. Maybe Atlanta,
I think I don't.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Think it makes those types of games and more intriguing though,
like you see a Browns play a Jets Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Atlanta has like got offensive firepower.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Like always let down vibes of Atlanta.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
I mean, I would say that hosting the Dolphins. By
December's December seventh, they're hosting the Dolphins game.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
That's a tough ticket to get, guys.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
They'll be calling the Dolphins you know. Oh yeah, that's
a CBS gam as of now. So I swaps this, but.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
I can't wait to it. I like where you were going.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
I can't wait, can't wait to announces. Just a terrible game,
and I've got to call on you guys, just dumping
all over it.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
No, that'll make me want to watch it. Yeah yeah,
not me support not me, Nope, nope, I'll listen to it. Now,
listen to your call without the without the picture on
the screen.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Wow, you're not gonna hurt your eyes.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Hell no.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
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Speaker 7 (17:20):
Good morning, what's going on, guys?
Speaker 11 (17:22):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (17:24):
We are good? I wanted to start you off with
a softball here if you don't mind. Worst team in
the NFL is who the Jets.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
I don't think you work.
Speaker 7 (17:36):
I mean, look, they're awful and it's not just the offense,
but like defentively they've been a little bit better, but
they leave the league in mistackles. I mean that's for
an Aaron Glenn team.
Speaker 11 (17:49):
Give me a break.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
And then you've got a quarterback situation that's a messa.
Speaker 11 (17:53):
Matter who plays, they both are bad.
Speaker 7 (17:55):
You know they didn't protect the quarterback in the last
two weeks and they don't have Wilson's on the game,
they don't have one receiver who scares you one bit,
and so you look at it, it's just a mess
and they got a lot of work to do. And look,
is it possible they go one and done with the
head coach? It's possible. I don't think you'd do that.
I don't think you should do that, but it's certainly
looking like it's possible.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Dang jeez, Pete. I mean the Titans on in that
conversation too.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
Well, I mean they got Will Levis two point zero
playing quarterback for him, so maybe they is.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
That a good thing or a bad thing because you're
a big Will loves fan.
Speaker 9 (18:33):
No.
Speaker 7 (18:33):
Look, I just like to say that though. And I
work with rand Cards on every Sunday and I sit
there and they tell them and the same thing is.
The bottom line is Will Levis was just ripped the
shreds last year for a lot of dumb things he did,
and rightfully so. But this guy's numbers are just a
worse dan Ward has been worse. And it's you know,
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everybody always goes, well.
Speaker 11 (18:58):
What does he have?
Speaker 7 (18:59):
Well, Will Levis had it didn't have anything either. And
so if I'm Tennessee and I drafted that guy first
overall and granted and fairness to him.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
He is a rookie. I mean that wasn't Will Levis's
rookie season last.
Speaker 7 (19:11):
Year, Okay, but you want to put Will Levis's rookie
season on there.
Speaker 11 (19:14):
He was pretty darn good. I mean, you know his
numbers were better.
Speaker 6 (19:17):
So so you're basically saying that that they should be
playing Will Levis, like you weren't wrong.
Speaker 7 (19:22):
No, I'm saying it's a bad it's a bad situation
for whoever plays quarterback, and there you and so I
think that's that's why we rush, like you always say, Brady,
we rushed the judgments on these quarterbacks and the situation matters,
and that situation bad.
Speaker 11 (19:38):
It's bad. It's a bad situation, but not worse than
the New York Jets.
Speaker 7 (19:44):
No, at least cam Ward gives the organization some hope,
does justin Fields or tyrod Tawer give you hope. No,
And I think the Jets were looking at it. Here's
you're the Jets, and you look across and you see
the same you play the same stadium, and you see
the Jackson Dart doing what he's doing for the Jets
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for the Giants. Now, he's not great, but he's giving
him light and giving him some energy. Are you glad
you drafted Membo when you did instead of taking a
quarterback because they they went into the season. Brady's thinking, maybe,
oh well, next year's quarterback class is going to be great?
Is it? Is it great right now?
Speaker 2 (20:24):
I don't think looking good right now? No, you're right
not looking us good right now?
Speaker 5 (20:27):
Iikes. I'll tell you who is looking good. Daniel Jones
is looking good. How you feel about this Colts team
right now?
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Pete? Is it fools gold or are they for real?
Speaker 7 (20:39):
I think they're for real? And I didn't believe that
until yesterday. I was one of those cynics doubters. Look
at their schedule and yeah, the Chargers are banged up,
But when you go out there and handle them the
way they do in your averaging thirty three points a game,
they're for real. And Daniel Jones is playing really good football.
But Jonathan Taylors playing great football, and the offensive line
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has been fantastic by the way. You know, they let
two guys walking free agency, Kelly and Freeze two veterans,
and they put Bordolini and Conclaves in there, and they've
been better. The line's been better. And when you have
a good line, as you find out around this league
like the Eagles are finding out, you know that what
it was like to have the great line and difference
between having an okay line. If you have a good
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offensive line, you're gonna run the ball, You're gonna take
the pressure off of the quarterback, and the quarterback can
stand back there and make throws and and Stikeen's done
a great job of getting the ball down the field
the playmaker's hands. Your Penn State tight end has been fantastic.
Speaker 11 (21:36):
Rookie Warren, he's.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
Been great the best right, Yeah, like almost like Rookie
of the Year type action.
Speaker 7 (21:42):
He's been fantastic.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Wow, there's something positive about State this year.
Speaker 11 (21:47):
You know they have something better than.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
What's that he's brou He's better than a He's having
some serious impact.
Speaker 7 (21:57):
Look, it's going to be a tight race, but he's
definitely in the conversation. But I love what Stiking right
now would be co through the year in the NFL.
I don't think there's any doubt about that.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
All right, Pete.
Speaker 6 (22:10):
Oh god, no, I was just gonna ask him, how
would you describe what happened in the Giants Broncos game.
Would that be a defensive collapse or would you say
it's a team loss there for the Giants.
Speaker 7 (22:22):
That's a collapse. That's a choke. That's like sticking your
finger in your throat and gagging.
Speaker 11 (22:27):
That's what that's.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
Yeah, but who are you put it on? You put
on the entire team or the defense.
Speaker 7 (22:31):
Pete, the entire team. I put it on the entire team.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
I mean the right quarterback would give give that point
to LeVar, give it to var That's all right, Cue, Yeah,
I got you know, make your point.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
Go ahead, make your point, Pete.
Speaker 7 (22:44):
Would's point because I'll see if I might agree with him.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
No, No, I'm just saying, well you already you just
didn't Yeah, you just did.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
We do this sometimes with you on the show. We
just don't tell you.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Yeah, that's all.
Speaker 9 (22:53):
Well.
Speaker 7 (22:53):
No, So the quarterbacks interception was horrible and third down
you can't do that, you know that in that situation,
that gave him life, that gave him hope. They scored
thirty three points in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 11 (23:03):
I mean that give me a break, and.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
So that's what we felt like. It was more of
a defensive.
Speaker 11 (23:07):
Letdown a little bit, you know what'd you say?
Speaker 2 (23:09):
That's why I said it was more of a defensive letdown.
Speaker 7 (23:12):
No, it's a combination of all of them. When you
give up an interception like that, Brady, that's terrible. But
here's the others. But you know what, at the end,
it was a defensive letdown because they went down and
got to go ahead points on a drive that if
you were if they would have won that game on
that drive, it would have talked it up to game
winning drive for Jackson Dart. He now has x amount
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of game winning drives. He threw one pass that was
completed for about fifteen yards, then got a personal foul
for rough of the passer on that drive, then got
a what forty five yard pass interference penalty on the drive,
and then they scored the touchdown game winning drive for
Jackson Dart. If they had won the game, give me
a preade. So and Sean Payton, by the way, got
(23:54):
one of the great penalties of all time because it
was a half an inch or a yard whatever it was.
Remember when he came out on the field to play
think about to pay it was, yeah, and so then
let the defense did let him down in that scenario
because you got to can't allow them to go down
and get that field goal. So it's a combination of
both the interception, the collapse of the defense, and you know,
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just some dumb things that they did in that game.
And Denver wasn't great either, by the way, but bo
Nicks in the first half two for eighty nine yards
and was awful, and then somehow in the fourth quarter
came alive. I don't understand. It's the third game. He's
done that, Pete.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Do you think if Russell Wilson was starting for the
Giants that would have won that game?
Speaker 7 (24:34):
Hell no, he would have thrown three picks by halftime
and they would have been buried. No, I mean, come on,
I mean, did you see when Jackson dark hurt his
ankle and Russell Wilson got up and started warming up,
and everybody like went over there, get up, get up,
get up, Jackson, get up.
Speaker 11 (24:50):
But I have that guy go back in there.
Speaker 7 (24:53):
He's done.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
Amb Pete.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
What about Pittsburgh? They just took an ale? But how
are you how are you looking at Aaron Rodgers. How
are you looking at them? Are they fools gold or
are they Are they legitimate contenders out.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Of the AFC.
Speaker 7 (25:10):
I didn't think they were fools gold until the other
day when that defense was horrible and you had a
team in the Bengals who went into that game had
not rushed one rushing play over thirteen yards on the
entire season and went in and ran it on them,
just gaping holes. Then you look at the passing defense.
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Oh my god, Dalen Ramsey looked terrible the other night.
So you look at that secondary Darius Slay, Dalen Ramsey, old,
Chuck Clark.
Speaker 11 (25:43):
I mean, it's old and they played old and.
Speaker 7 (25:46):
That's a problem. And so it'll be interesting. They played
Green Bay this week.
Speaker 11 (25:50):
It'll be interesting to.
Speaker 7 (25:51):
See if Mike Tomain can get them to bounce back.
By the way, they don't do a lot of things
on defense. You know, in an era when you got
teams and creative stuff on the back end. They're not
nearly as creative as some of the other teams. And
so I think they have a problem on defense the
age combination with the fact that they're pretty predictable. You
saw what Jay said. They said they.
Speaker 11 (26:11):
Knew what they were doing.
Speaker 7 (26:12):
Everybody knows what they're doing.
Speaker 11 (26:13):
They're the Steelers.
Speaker 7 (26:13):
They do the same thing, and so that's a problem.
And by the way, PJ. Watt is not a kid.
Cam Hayward's not a kid. They got they have age
issues on that defense.
Speaker 6 (26:23):
Gotta love Pete Prisco using agism as a way of
uh comments against the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Brady Brady by the way, why why people?
Speaker 11 (26:31):
How old are you right now? How old are you
right now?
Speaker 2 (26:33):
I'll be forty one here surely?
Speaker 7 (26:36):
Okay, so you're eighty two, So you got me about
you got me. Don't worry about it. You're double the
years when you play football.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
Pete, if you don't mind, I would like to I
don't know if this is the best way of doing this,
but I'd like to read through a text conversation that
you know was maybe had at some point between you
and I Saturday night, because as most would would you know,
I'm not sure if they realize this or not, but
you are an Arizona State sun devil, and you've got
(27:03):
a love hate relationship with your school.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
And we won't get into the details of why that is.
Speaker 6 (27:08):
But I happen to reach out to you because Arizona
State is playing a top ten team in Texas Tech.
They look to be the best team in the Big Twelve,
albeit without their starting quarterback. Still good football team. And
I just happened to text you your boys are hanging tough.
And then you reply just went forward on fourth and
two in his own end like an idiot, and I said, oh,
(27:30):
I'm behind because I was traveling at this point.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Just gave them life. Please tell me he's going to
Pennsas State.
Speaker 6 (27:36):
Then you got a spiral into this you want your
coach gone, and then at the end of the text conversation,
you text me that guy can flat out coach?
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Can you talk me through your emotions? During the Arizona
State win over Texas.
Speaker 7 (27:52):
Tech, I was sitting watching the game with my wife
and we were having a few coils, and so I
was getting worked up a little bit because I was
he I think Kenny Dillingham's done a great job building
the program, but I think he lacks he lacks some
decision making on game day. And I've said it before.
Speaker 11 (28:14):
To you, Brady, I don't.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
You don't back down.
Speaker 7 (28:19):
No, I I still believe that why.
Speaker 11 (28:21):
Would you go for it?
Speaker 7 (28:22):
Fourth to two in your own en it made no sense.
It was a dumb decision, and it nearly cost him
the game. But having said that, I think he's a
great program builder and what he's done there has been fantastic.
So maybe, you know, allow somebody else to influence his
game time decisions a little bit and they'll be fine.
Because I go back, I go back across the landscape.
B YU at the end of that game, what his
(28:43):
game time decision almost it was it was a travesty.
If you could, if you could do what not to
do at the end of the game against b YU
last year, it was nearly cost him the game and
it was a it was a how not to that
was terrible. Okay, fourth and he calls time out. They
call time out against Texas last year in the playoffs game,
they show zero blitz, they call time out, They come
(29:05):
back out. What they do they ran zero blitz again,
Golden up the field for a touchdown. They lose the
game Mississippi State. Late in the game, zero blitz against
the against the wide receiver who I think runs like
track times on the.
Speaker 11 (29:18):
In the one hundred meters, lose the game.
Speaker 7 (29:21):
And then the other day he did that. So game
time decisions bother me. Program building I love and I'm
happy where they're at. But if you continue to have
bad coaching on game day, you're going to have problems
sustainable success to win big games. That's all. That's all.
That was my complaint. It was fueled by a few
did at the bar and have a few cocktails and
(29:42):
then so yeah, it was.
Speaker 11 (29:43):
It was a good experience.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Love it, absolutely love it.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
It was a great guy. A conversation point, huh for
for it? You basically just say you was faded, Pete. Yeah,
you were faded. You was faded in texta.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
What you drink a choice Pete during an Arizona State game?
Speaker 7 (29:58):
Uh? In in Cranberry's.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
What I was light on the cran or heavy?
Speaker 6 (30:05):
Yeah, you know, but it depends.
Speaker 7 (30:07):
It was early in the days, not early to day.
But you know, when you day drinking, you're handy on
the on the on the t you got to go
a little.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
Like pizza cocktail guy, not a beer guy.
Speaker 7 (30:18):
I'm mixing a beer. No, I'll mix in some light
beers here. You gotta change the pace every now.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
And you're a mick ult guy, aren't you.
Speaker 7 (30:25):
No, I'm a Miller like.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Guy, Okay, Miller, you look like.
Speaker 7 (30:29):
How about you, LeVar?
Speaker 11 (30:30):
What do you? Let's hear your drinking choice. I can't
wait for you.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
I have LeVar Allen's and I have Stick City Wheat
Citrus l When I have them, that's that's what I do.
Speaker 7 (30:41):
Okay, and Brady is a court Brady going. So I'm
gonna drink the highest and Scott you can find.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
I drink a bit of everything, drink a bit of
I will say this of the domestics, I'm not into
the Nicolaches. I've always called them that ever since Nikola
Shan and Jessica Simpson had that reality TV show, because
you would exclusively drink Miller light. Uh, bud light not
as good as core as light in my opinion, you know.
(31:10):
And Michelo Ultras I only do after I work out
because I feel like that's what their commercials are. It's
always like people who are like working out or I
remember when they first came out, they're like running around
the track and I'm like, yeah, that's the first thing
people do. They like they go run around the track
and go run two miles and they're grabbing a Michelo
Ultras but it worked on me because every time I
work out and I'm like, I want to Michelo ultra
(31:30):
right now, I'll do again.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
It's it just depends. I'm all over the place. I'll
do whatever.
Speaker 7 (31:35):
What type againness that you just grab the closest bottle
and start drinking.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Like yeah. Jonas Jonas is an I p A guy.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Like rolling rock too, roll a big rolling rock guy.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Trope p A.
Speaker 7 (31:50):
Yeah, oh you're you're that guy that goes and gets skilled.
Speaker 11 (31:52):
I'll have that pale l that you happen.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Yes, it's bad if I go to if I go to.
Speaker 11 (32:00):
One of those places and they don't have it like
a middle I'm leaving. Yeah, I'm not drinking.
Speaker 7 (32:05):
I'm not drinking your I'm not drinking whatever they call it,
the wheat barley, you know, gimme's uh mixed brew.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Jonas Jonas is a cypers like I have your local
I p A.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Yeah, you got to sample the goods, you know.
Speaker 7 (32:20):
Yeah, man, let's see what you got the little the
little tray of like little samplers where you get like
five of the more and see whatever.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Is working with. I mean, LeVar is supposed to send
us some of his that's coming.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Bro, I told you no, it is.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
I just had to go.
Speaker 7 (32:35):
He promised and didn't delivered.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
I'm gonna send you some too. I just got to
get a few things cleared up.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
I didn't want to ask you before we let you go.
Just for some further contacts on a tweet you sent
yesterday where you wrote, quote, hey coaches, it's okay to
take points on fourth and seven? What was that was?
Speaker 7 (32:54):
That was in the morning game when Liam Cohne went
for a fourth and seven instead of kicking a field goal. Now,
his twelve year old field goal kicker had just missed about,
you know, fourth grade kick, and so he's got to
start making his kicks. But it was a point.
Speaker 11 (33:11):
It would have been a thirty five yeard field goal.
You got to get points on the you gotta get points.
It was twenty one nothing, but you gotta get points.
Make it twenty one three. And he and he didn't.
Speaker 7 (33:18):
So he's not alone. And and so I think these
guys they got to they get too caught up in
the emotion of the game. Kick your damn field goal.
Speaker 11 (33:25):
Make it twenty one three.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Right. The Great Pete Prisco, Senior NFL columnist for CBS
sports analysts.
Speaker 11 (33:37):
Is Brady.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Yeah there, why you're laughing at him? I think he's
a good coach. I think his names I think his
name's coming up from other jobs right now.
Speaker 7 (33:48):
Hey, yeah, I know I knew that. That's why I
said Penn State have him. No, let's just get that.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
I think, don't like, don't be getting like, don't be
doing that, Pete. We don't do like sloppy seconds like that. Man,
that's not our man. You know, we're trying to We're
trying to get things right.
Speaker 7 (34:03):
I have a guy who out the door, who can't
win three games in a row against fat.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Damn.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
I mean, challenge yourself a little bit more, Pete. I
mean that was a low hanging fruit there, bro Like,
I mean, can you do a little better? You know,
like you want to kick you? You want to kick
me while I'm down. I thought we were friends, Pete,
we are friends.
Speaker 7 (34:21):
But you're not You're not mad at Penn State. You
should be mad, you know what.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
I'm certainly not happy. I am not happy. I'm just hoping.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
I will always defend well, I'll defend coach Franklin, I'll
defend Penn State. I'm just a defender of my school.
Speaker 11 (34:40):
That's all, Well, you know what you can do.
Speaker 7 (34:41):
You can defend them when you're watching the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (34:47):
Actually, Pete, Jeremiah Love, I know you hate taking running
backs in the first round.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Is he not a kid you're taking the first round?
Speaker 7 (34:57):
I would think about it at the back end. Jesus,
by the way, Brady, and.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Don't you're gonna let Kansas City get him? Is that
what's gonna happen?
Speaker 11 (35:05):
Draft?
Speaker 7 (35:06):
They actually like the other Notre Dame running back more.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Pick your poison, dude, pick your points.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
By the way, there's lightweight like Brady Quinn palin on
me as well, like Pete Prisco like assassinates me and
my school just then.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
And then Brady jumps on.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
Oh, by the way, while we're talking about it, no
talk to me about first round draft picks and running
backs out.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
He doesn't the one that Notre Dame like.
Speaker 6 (35:33):
What's what's what's funny is this is a long running
thing with Pete. Pete teams draft running backs in the
first round.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
And the running state too, and and k Tron is
still balling out. He is still he's trying to win
by himself. Seemingly looks Doc.
Speaker 7 (35:52):
Has gone way up and he might go ahead of
the other guy at Penn State.
Speaker 11 (35:54):
So that's interesting to hear that.
Speaker 7 (35:56):
But yeah, Brady, I have heard the running back the
other the backup running back is and Notre Dame.
Speaker 11 (36:00):
They love them.
Speaker 6 (36:02):
I wouldn't even call them a backup. I think they're
one A, one B and I think that's how they
look at them.
Speaker 7 (36:06):
So, by the way, is our bet still we still
have that bet going on who wins more games. But
your schedule is a joke, right because the big twelves
are gon let Okay, Well, I mean it's a little
tougher than what you what you got left on that schedule.
Speaker 11 (36:20):
I mean it's like, well, it's.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Your point, there's nothing left, but was there was another state?
Speaker 11 (36:23):
Have not much?
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Okay, yeah, thanks for coming out.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
Well I will put Louisiana Hot Sauce on both y'alls teams,
grill y'all up in each we possibly could.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Can we appreciate you.
Speaker 7 (36:35):
We'll do it again next week, all right, guys, take care?
Speaker 5 (36:39):
Yeah, yeah, Pecote Louisiana original hot sauce Prisco. It's the
perfect balance of peppers, vinegar and salt. You can put
it on your wings, your nachos, your burgers, make sure
you hit any tailgate food with it. It's a bold,
handcrafted flavor that's original Louisiana Hot. Sauce that's Louisiana Hot.
Make sure you buy you some.
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Speaker 2 (37:58):
Here's the leftovers A ray ray.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
What do we got?
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Well? I was watching some football. Oh no, I know,
crazy go It's great.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
I love watching football.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
I've been getting really into it.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
Because of you guys, so I appreciate you.
Speaker 12 (38:12):
I know you all have varying stances on the tush
push And did you guys see what the Vikings did
their attempt to stop the Eagles. I want to know
how you feel about them putting their player horizontally on
that line.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Hind up sideways horizontally on that line. It didn't work.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
You're clearly not going.
Speaker 5 (38:31):
To push them back at this point, so maybe trying
to hit them from an angle could prove to be beneficial.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (38:39):
I also love the creativity and the thought process behind it.
Right kind of almost stymies their ability to get lower
because they got to go over a guy, so they're
immediately losing that. Like low Man wins theory knowing some
of the guys in the staff up in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
It's funny, like they have studied this. They have repped
not only how to run the tush push, but trying
to how to stop it. And this is their like
theory behind it.
Speaker 6 (39:05):
So at least someone's doing something different to try to
stop this thing. Uh, give the Vikings a lot of credit.
They're trying thing about that.
Speaker 5 (39:15):
I would just lay a body down right in front
of the in front of the ball, like hey, buddies,
and essen's what they did.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
Yeah, well, lay them on the ground. They just lay down.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
Maybe they should spend more time stopping DeVante Smith next time.
Maybe that could have helped out their ride Game five
because he went off yesterday.
Speaker 5 (39:34):
He was throwing that ball now, I mean they had
a bounce back. Can't sit there and say they didn't
have a bounce bag. People was really really going hard
on their offense.
Speaker 6 (39:44):
Know why, Like they get so emotional and philly about this,
Like they know they can do it, they just don't
need to do it all the time, especially when you
got Saquon in the backfield, Like I don't, I don't
know why, Like everyone gets all upsetting up in arms
about it.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
You know, I don't know, but he does throw them
hooks up.
Speaker 5 (40:03):
I will say that, who yeah thro the Jonas, Yeah,
throws up.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Have a good day.
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