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October 27, 2025 41 mins

The guys catch up with CBS Senior NFL Analyst Pete Prisco and talk about the biggest stories around the NFL from this weekend, the Jets getting their first win of the season, the passing of Nick Mangold, The Leftovers, and more!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:27):
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Speaker 3 (00:35):
Oh Q, you wa you like this song too? Jeez, Brady,
I had no idea. See that's Jonas passively aggressive power
tripping right now. I know because I did this last week.
You sure did. Now, we know because you were out
and I got Jonas and I did my song three

(00:57):
hours straight. Yep. So now this is a passive aggressive
flex and he did it on your hour.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
Cue.

Speaker 5 (01:03):
You better beat his ass next time. I had nothing
to do with this little bit. We've did find out
a little behind the scenes work being done by LeVar
and veto a little behind the scenes stuff to make
sure that the opens are set up exactly how he
wants it.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
Learned a lot on Fridays. By no brouh you just flexed.
Just now, see everybody out there if you was ever
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And now you know, no, not true. It's the Lost
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(01:39):
you running with. Yeah, that's why I did it. It's
so It is so fitting that you have a vampire
theme song. This song so good. It's a bad song.

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Speaker 3 (02:30):
I don't have to tell you you're completely wrong, Jonas, just
leave a comment. We know you go and say Jonas
is completely wrong, because he is.

Speaker 5 (02:40):
Can I smell your zin? I just want to smell it.
I've never I've never actually smelled a zoo very minty.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Brady, you a zin guy?

Speaker 4 (02:49):
No, but I've been Uh, I don't know, I've been
thinking about it. We have been thinking about a lot.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
Yeah, I don't know why.

Speaker 6 (02:57):
I don't know if it's the pure pressure at this point,
or if it's the fact that, like it gets tough
sometimes watching some of these games. It's like, I mean, yesterday,
for example, how many blowouts were there? I mean, how
many double digit wins. NFL talks about parody. There's parody
amongst like the top ten twelve teams, there's not. There's

(03:17):
really not parody in the rest of the league. Like
the rest of the league, like can't they can't find their
ass from their elbow.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
So there, I don't know, maybe I need to start
popping in some sins.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Three. There was one game that was a one score
game five it was Jets Bangles six. Other than that,
everything was a wipeout. It was bad band. There's really
really bad games. Yesterday there's like seven eight double digits,
oh outs, man.

Speaker 5 (03:45):
Yeah, Like the afternoon slate was borderline unwatchable, Titans, Colts, Bucks, Saints.
It just yeah, bad, bad games all the way through.
So at least they could do is deliver was a
good one later on Monday night. But good news. Obviously
a difficult day with the passing.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Of Nick Mangle. Yeah, man, years old. Bro, that's yeah,
that's really sad.

Speaker 6 (04:12):
Good dude, great man. Yeah, good dude, good guy, good
good teammate. I mean anything, you know, all you could
ask for, Man, I I had to. I had to
privilege a plan against Nick, had the privilege a plan
with him. And uh, the the saddest thing about all
this is is, I don't I'm not sure anyone knew

(04:33):
how how dire their circumstances were in.

Speaker 4 (04:37):
Regards to what he needed.

Speaker 6 (04:39):
And you know, when you went public about it, my
understanding was there, Yeah, there was a plan in place
that they felt confident in being able to sustain him
until he got a transplant. And and I know a
lot of people who were getting tested who were you know,
trying to figure out if they could be a donor,
which that process. This is more complicated and it's longer

(05:03):
than you think. You know, it's not a quick twenty
four to forty eight hour process. And uh, it just
it caught.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
Everyone by surprise.

Speaker 7 (05:13):
Man.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
That was sad, man, that was tough man.

Speaker 6 (05:15):
Sad and thoughts are obviously out with the family and
it's got four young ones, so uh thinking about them today.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
Yeah, man, that's a sad one. Man. It's like when
it's like you you hate for guys to like forward
to end, like the way it did with the Muscle Hamster,
and that's like tragic in a different way. This one
is like just that's gut wrenching. That's gut wrenching when
it's a health issue when a guy gets up out

(05:44):
of here early and they always tell you, like, for
our profession, you gotta be checking your blood, man, you
gotta be checking your levels constantly. I do it now
and I don't even play, and I'm not a pill popper,
but every once in a while I got to just
to be able to function. Sometimes I go get my
blood taken, man, Like you got to make sure that

(06:07):
your your body's operating. Correctly, and maybe he was. And
like they said, he detected it. It wasn't like it
was undetected as.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
Q highlight back in two thousand and six.

Speaker 6 (06:17):
Yeah, so people don't even understand he had to play
through a lot of pain because he couldn't take certain
pain medication because of this.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
It's crazy, crazy, and it's sad, sad. We lost a
good one, great ambassador to our game. Just just a
dude that did it the right way. You know, I
don't know him, know him, just the interactions that I
had with him through the years when I was really
really active with with the NFL in the offices, I

(06:46):
got an opportunity to meet a lot of guys and
you remember, you remember your experiences with certain guys more
so than others. And he was one of those guys
just stood out like you walked away from him like
I could roll with him, like we could, you know
what I mean. Like he's like he's a warrior. So
shouts out prayers, positive thoughts to his family and yeah,

(07:09):
that's a that's a sad loss man. So and uh,
it was appropriate. The Jets got their first one of
the season, you know, on the day that he passed
away and Justin Fields man for a guy that was
uh that was benched until the Jets realize their other
quarterbacks and aligned not just bench, but was humiliated in bench. Yeah,

(07:33):
benched and humiliated by the owner. How how much of
a d bag do you feel like today? If you're
Woodie Johnson? I mean, I'm sitting there and it's like,
okay they come into the locker room. If he's one
of those owners that stands there like the other people
in the league waiting to greet and see the guys

(07:54):
come into the locker room, what do you do when
do you put your your head down? Does your eyes
go down?

Speaker 7 (07:59):
Today?

Speaker 3 (07:59):
He thinks, yeah, it worked? Psychology, it worked. See I
should speak up more often. Oh wow, Yeah, I never
looked at it that way.

Speaker 5 (08:11):
Step That would be his mentality. That's that's how he
handles things.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
He'll never look at the way. He'll never look at
it the way you look at it.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
So they're both used to losing.

Speaker 5 (08:24):
Maybe they do think like Justin now Justin Field's did
talk afterwards about the difficult week that was for him
as he prepared for this game against Cincinnati.

Speaker 8 (08:34):
Thing a lot for me emotionally spiritually when I was
on the field, I was damning about to start crying,
not because of we won, but just because of the
goodness of God. And I'm gonna get pretty boner right
right here. But this week, I kind of, you know,
I found myself in my closet crying on the ground,
laying down, not because of the hardships, not because of

(08:57):
the troubles. I felt like, you know, I would built
to handle that, and I was put in place to
handle this situation. But I just had gotten a text
for my sister and my step mom and it was
just an encouraging texts. It was just a sign from
God for me to keep going and that you know,
I'm in the right place. I was just I was
just praying over and over and over again, like yo,

(09:17):
like just one one win.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
So good for him man, and those those moments happened
and things. That's good. He has a support system because
in trying times and trying moments. I mean, for me,
it was my dogs. I hate to say it, like
I love my family and my coy fish. Oh No,
that was later on. That was like towards retirement where

(09:41):
that took place.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
You had that in DC.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
I was. I lived in Annapolis. But that was at
the end. That was like it was still my dogs
back then, like my dog my fish were like just
that was just tranquility period fish. Yeah. Man, dang all right, people,
y'all love bringing up painful memory.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
You named them, used to feed them and talk to.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
Fish that Saved Pittsburgh. WHOA that might be my next
intro song because I'm from Pittsburgh. Heard that one. Oh,
now that one is even older than Lost Boys, The
Fish that Save Pittsburgh. Look that one up. When did
that movie come out? Y'all? Don't know, y'all, you Jonas

(10:30):
do not know about The Fish that Save Pittsburgh. Like
good movies, it was a pretty I mean, it is
probably a dumb movie if you want to think about that.
Think about that, bro. I thought it was a fishing movie. No,
it's a basketball movie and it's in Pittsburgh and we're
not known to be a basketball town. So but anyway, Yeah,

(10:54):
my dogs were my support system, Like I come home,
they're they didn't care about what was going on. I
don't pet that dog, don't pet that doll, put that doll. Yeah,
and and sometimes knowing in the moments where you're feeling
so hated right for somebody to just or or your

(11:17):
your pet, you know, whatever it may be, to make
you feel an emotion that you're you're not feeling in
those moments. It's super therapeutic. It has the ability to
help you to to kind of purge yourself of like
the negative energy that's that's inside of you. And I

(11:40):
think that's what he's alluding to in terms of being
in the closet crying like he was. He was like unloading.
You know, somebody loves me. That's important because when when
you have people that that publicly just come out and
basically let you know, I have no belief in you, no,
no trust in you, uh, no confidence in you. And
I'm the one that brought you here, like I'm I'm

(12:02):
part of I'm the one who's signing your checks. That
can be debilitating in so many ways. Do you see
what a Field said about Woody Johnson afterwards? His comments,
He's like, Yeah, at the end of the day, that's
just outside noise. I know he owns the team, but
that's just outside noise. Well why and why not? Why not?
He spoke his piece on on Field. What a clown
show would he? Johnson? Why not, why not say how

(12:25):
you feel about it, because now you've already put him
on the outs. You put him on the outs with
no type of thought that he could possibly resurface and
you might need him again. You might need him like
that week, like literally it was injured that week. And
then he comes in and he plays a very very

(12:48):
well played game. Didn't turn the ball over, was efficient
in the passing game, was efficient running the ball. I mean,
it was a well rounded game. They they pulled out
a good victory, So I mean, to me, Cincinnati was
trending towards being one of the hotter teams in the

(13:08):
league with a backup hider be they.

Speaker 6 (13:11):
Kind of still hard at me, like I look at that,
and I just go like I'm still a namor with
what Joe Flacco has done, Like what he's doing is
not easy to do.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
Like the standard of which he's playing.

Speaker 6 (13:23):
And I know they didn't get the win, but dude,
he's he's doing a hell of a job, man, he
really is. And I know this is it's a nice
win for the Jets. I go going back to the
benching though, and then Tyra Taylor and not realizing how
injured he was, like that's not on Woody Johnson, Like
that's on Aaron Glenn and his staff and even just

(13:46):
the benching in general, like that's on that's on Aaron Glenn.
So I think what's what's awesome about this is it's
not just Justin Fields and Woody Johnson, Like even the
head coach started to waiver. And that's the guy you
listen to and sit, you know, and talk with every
once in a while and see every week every day.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
It's like even he was, you know, starting to waiver
a little bit. So kudos the Justin.

Speaker 6 (14:11):
Fields for you know, staying confident in his own beliefs
and that he can do it and getting to win.

Speaker 4 (14:16):
And we'll see if they can stack wins.

Speaker 6 (14:18):
But it's gonna take a monumental, you know, contribution from
brist Hall. I mean, he's he's he's to me, what
makes this offense go If they can run the football
and they can get him some touches in the passing game,
like they're gonna win some football games.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
But otherwise like it's just yeah, some speculation you might
get traded ball.

Speaker 6 (14:37):
So yeah, I mean, you see how well he plays
in the impact he has on an offense You're like,
all right, there's gotta be someone else out there who could.

Speaker 4 (14:43):
Who he'd use him.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
Yeah, I don't think that would be a problem. He
hasn't been the itch you. Yeah, it's me. And and
even with the comments about the coach it being on him,
how much of an influence from the ownership is that
on now Glenn is handling it. He's got to try
to stay in pocket too. You could be a one
and done just like anybody else. He could turn his

(15:09):
attention to talking bad about you. He could turn his
attentions and he's not liking you. Yes, of course he is,
of course. So I just I look at it from
the perspective of this is how sports works. And if
you have an owner that that kind of handles things,

(15:30):
not kind of handles things the way that that would
he Johnson handles handles them. You gotta have a firm
idea of if you're going to take this job, especially
if you're first time head coach, knowing that okay, well,
I may not get the opportunity again to be a
head coach. It's a great market to be a head
coach in if you can win, If he can win

(15:51):
in New York City, he has done something extraordinary in
the world of sports. But there's a lot that comes
with that. And if you go to an organization that
is in disarray like the New York Jets have been,
that's an even bigger that's a bigger challenge to tackle.

(16:11):
So I mean, by no means, it's a feel good
story for the moment, But by no means, is this
New York Jets team out of the woods in terms
of the criticisms that have been coming their way and
who's culpable for those criticisms that are coming out? I
think it's going to be the coach. It's going to
be the coach, is going to be the owner. Yeah,

(16:32):
you're not out of the woods until Woody Johnson's out
of the woods. Wow, there you go. Oh, he ain't
coming out of the woods. Yeah, why would he?

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Was?

Speaker 3 (16:40):
Eight billion dollars are worth that we looked up last
week something like that. Yeah, Yeah, they're fine. He's doing
all right.

Speaker 5 (16:46):
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(17:48):
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Speaker 3 (17:50):
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Speaker 5 (17:52):
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But right now it is time for an other Monday tradition.
Here on the show. He's the one and only Pete Prisco,
Senior NFL columnist or CBS Sports, CBS Sports HQ analyst.
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Speaker 3 (18:12):
Pete, good morning.

Speaker 7 (18:13):
What did what? Did LeVar just ask him? I'm really
a smooth operator?

Speaker 3 (18:17):
Yeah? I mean how do you get a smooth operator?
Intro song? I mean, where where did that come from?

Speaker 7 (18:22):
Because it applies, you know.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Can you please explain to me why you are considered
to be a smooth operator?

Speaker 4 (18:29):
Pete?

Speaker 3 (18:29):
Pe pritsko LeVar.

Speaker 7 (18:31):
I'm like a newly paved road. You're like one that
has a bunch of potholes.

Speaker 4 (18:35):
Geez sang damn.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
Pete. Well, I just don't want to be easily ran over, Pete.

Speaker 7 (18:42):
You know, well you got to avoid the potholes. That's
why everybody avoid you that.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
Well, there you go. I like that. I'm more like that.
You like people just running all over y'all. Brady, Oh
now he's coming for you. What is this wildin? Now?
Is this a session of wild Brady?

Speaker 7 (18:58):
I said? Brady A tech Saturday Night you never answered me, I.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
Did not see it. Sorry you were not saying. You
probably didn't hear earlier.

Speaker 6 (19:09):
But I was dealing with a it's either a gopher
or a beaver that's stuck under my wife's car, So
I was.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
A little inandated.

Speaker 7 (19:17):
What did you do with that?

Speaker 4 (19:20):
I see what you said. Now, who are you referring to?

Speaker 7 (19:25):
What did you do with the What did you do
with the gopher of the beaver?

Speaker 4 (19:28):
I don't know. I tried to get I could still
be under there for all I know. I have no idea.
I try to spread it out. I'm not sure who knows.

Speaker 6 (19:35):
So I'm sorry, I'm senior text now who is that?

Speaker 7 (19:39):
By the way, I would pay good money to watch
Brady Quinn trying to get a gopher.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
Me too, because you know he's talking his way through it,
Pete right like he's explaining it play by play, breakdown analysis.
The gopher or the beaver is his stat line, what
he brings to the table, speed weight, all of those
things are going into his reasoning in terms of how
he's getting to this.

Speaker 4 (20:04):
This This much smell good, It smelled awful.

Speaker 6 (20:09):
It was old and gray. That's what it's hard itself.
It was like apostle definitely wasn't a possum.

Speaker 7 (20:15):
It was dead.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
Wow, why would they never know? It was all what
that made that reference to, Like they got cougars, they
got mills, why don't they have possums? Like why don't
those exist? You know what I mean come from. That's
just what it made me think in that moment. He
just did read. I did just I did just do
a blue che read.

Speaker 7 (20:34):
I mean, okay, So anyway, so late Saturday night, I
said Brady at text, Brady, you didn't pay attention to
because you had to go for problems.

Speaker 4 (20:41):
The one that said Penn State. No, the other one
I didn't see another one from you.

Speaker 6 (20:47):
I only whatever you sent was obviously in relation to
what I was sent in Hassle, I'd endorse you if
you tried to go to Penn State. Q.

Speaker 7 (20:53):
Oh, yeah, go to pend go to Penn State.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
Yeah, I'd endorse you.

Speaker 7 (20:56):
Doc Well, okay, So anyways, I'm watching the game Saturday
night and in vintage Arizona State fashion win a big
game and lose to a team at home, you should
be vintage. And so I sent it. I was just
sitting there. I was angry watching the game, and I
sent Brady to text go to Penn State and he

(21:17):
didn't respond, so I thought he was I thought he
was agreeing with me in the moment, but he had
go for problems.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (21:27):
Well, also I thought never mind, I was I was
simultaneously texting Hassle about something.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
I thought he was. You guys were on some sort
of other threat or something else. So never mind. I
completely misunderstood what that was about.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
Matt Castle.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
No, Chris Hassle, Oh Hassle, Cassle.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
Yeah, somebody saw him out of Penn State game and
they're like, is that Brady Quinn? Is that Brady Quinn?
I was like, no, that's the poor man's version like that.

Speaker 4 (21:51):
Oh no, he made a lot of money playing in
the NFL.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
Oh, I get it, but you know, still in my
eyes poor man's version. I was like, yeah, he's got
that kind of that look, but he ain't quite feeling
fitting the bill for that.

Speaker 6 (22:04):
I'm gonna transition into some NFL talk Pete games.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
It's not that I'm just saying yesterday's games.

Speaker 6 (22:12):
Were awful to watch, and well, but you're a guy
who loves to pound your chest about the parody in
the NFL, how awesome it is, blah blah blah.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
This was a bad weekend for that.

Speaker 6 (22:22):
Outside of the Jets Bengals finish and and everything that
went with that game, it was an awful weekend for
the NFL.

Speaker 7 (22:30):
First and foremost, I will agree with you one hundred
and fifty. We were sitting there watching the games and
we go, these games are awful. Today. It was bad,
But you went in thinking there would be games that
would be closed and none. None of them were. So yeah,
from that standpoint, it was terrible football across.

Speaker 6 (22:46):
But we're seeing more and more of that Pete like,
like literally there was one game that wasn't double digits,
Like I think you're starting to see a greater separation
between the haves and haves nots in the NFL. And
you could say it haves in head coach, haves in quarterback,
whatever it is you want to draw, maybe even an
owner with deep pockets. But all I know right now
is the NFL has a greater issue than I think

(23:08):
it realizes, because you can't keep rolling out weekends like
this and expect the viewership to be there and people
to be excited about what they're watching.

Speaker 7 (23:16):
Well, also, there were six teams on a buy, So
that takes away the possibility of having better games that.

Speaker 6 (23:21):
That that you hurt you Oh yeah, three yeah, three
great games, three gay games one of those the way.

Speaker 7 (23:29):
Yeah, but if you have if you have six teams
on a buy, there's a possibility to schedule and get
evident of haven better games too, Brady, that's to be real.

Speaker 6 (23:35):
But if they're all playing Pete, that's three more games, Like,
is that really going to change the narrative of a
weekend where literally every single game besides Jets.

Speaker 7 (23:42):
Bengals process of it. But here you go. Okay, you
talk about the mismatch. The Falcons went into the game
as heavy favorites and lost to a crappy Miami team.
I mean that's just so. Is that parody or is
that just the Falcon?

Speaker 4 (23:56):
Well, you tell me who was playing quarterback?

Speaker 3 (23:57):
Pete?

Speaker 4 (23:57):
I mean maybe it was about that.

Speaker 7 (24:00):
Well, okay, forget about the quarterbacks. We know he's not
any good, but he didn't could probably probably you know
what the Dolphins probably did. They probably told him, hey, Kirk,
it's a big game, buddy, it's a big game. And
of course he willed it in the moment. But that's
not the thing that lost that game for them. They

(24:21):
gave the ball to bj On Robinson nine times against
the team in an averages fight yards rush against, but
nine times. The game plan was terrible and the defense
was bad. So you know, you could blame Kirk Cousins
all you want. I'm not by the way. He wasn't good,
but it's not his fault. But they let Miami who
was just terrible on offense. The week before he two

(24:42):
four touchdown passes with one eye. And so the bottom
line is that's the defense and not giving the ball
to be John Robinson. They got problems to Falcons, and
like I said about a month ago, the NFC South
is OVA. It's done, and now everybody else is Campa
Bay has got that division now that you just start
playing for seeding.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
Pete, how heartbroken are you that that cam his season
came to an abrupt closing yesterday during during the game
against the Eagles. How how did you feel personally?

Speaker 7 (25:20):
I mean, it's another I mean, look, you hate to
see guys get hurt, but it's part of the game,
you know. Look, it's a terrible loss for the Giants.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
That didn't hits you in a certain type of way
man your alumni.

Speaker 7 (25:30):
No, I mean I don't look. I hate seeing guys
go down with injuries, no matter where they come from
or where they play. But it's part of the game.
You know that, it's just part of You get used
to it, you get numb to it. I'm numb to it.
I'll be honest with you. I hate to see it.
I hate to see it. But it's if you play
in the NFL and you watch the NFL and you
cover the NFL, you're gonna see guys go out for

(25:51):
the year. The kid's a good football player who surprised
me by the way he's played. I'll be honest with you.
I didn't think he had that in him, and I
watched all his games, and you hate to see him
go down. That kid will work his butt off to
get back in there and become a good productive player again,
So I'm not worried about him down the line. You
hate to see it for the Giants. I mean, now
you lose him to go with neighbors and you're trying

(26:14):
to develop a rookie quarterback. That's problematic.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
Pe Prisco joining us here on Fox Sports Radio Senior
NFL columnists for CBS Sports CBS Sports HQ analysts Pete.
What teams in the league are good that you can
look at right now today and say that's a good
football team.

Speaker 7 (26:31):
Well, I think the Eagles showed, you know, on Sunday
that they're back. They can throw it, they can run it,
and then they also got the pass rush going. So
I think that's they serve. Notice, I think Buffalo going
to Carolina and people, you know, Carolina is not great,
but the whole you know, narrative going into that game
was Caroline is so physical, They're going to run all

(26:53):
over the Bills and the Bills can't out physical them.
And they went down and just bludgeoned them, I mean
on both sides of the ball. And one good thing
that came out of that Bills game they got Michael
Hoyt and Larry Okin Jobie back. Hoyt had one and
a half facks. The team was good up front, they
pressured the quarterback. They had seven as a team, and
that's a real good sign going forward. So I think

(27:13):
the Bills will be good, really good, and they're getting
better and we'll know a lot more about them. Next
week they play the Chiefs. And then and then the
other one is, hey, my other Super Bowl pick. They
went to Pittsburgh and looked fantastic last night and they're
getting guys back. Getting Christian Watson back for that offense
is so important because he opens it up. He has
the ability to go down the field and they were

(27:35):
missing that. And now you get him back. When you
get Golden going and you get Dobbs and you get
the tight end craft going, that offense is going to
score a ton of points. And you know they can
rush the passer they get a lead and turn those
pass rushers loose, They're going to be tough to be
So those are those are three teams that stand out
to me. And by the way, I'll put the Colts

(27:56):
in there right now. I'm right yah. Sean Taylor is
probably the m VP right now, and it's going to
be hard for running back. It's going to be hard
for running back to win it. But what he's doing
is truly special. And you know, you go back to
the last time the MVP was won by a running
back was Adrian Peterson. He's on tape it clips that
season and if he does, yeah, he's going to be

(28:19):
in the conversation. Well, yeah, that's the whole that's a
whole other and.

Speaker 6 (28:24):
I'll let LeVar dig into that. But I was going
to ask you, Pete, did it bother you at all?
You know, the whole designation and what happened with Lamar Jackson,
Tyler Huntley and Baltimore because you know, some of us
on this show were expecting big things out of the Bears.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
I am not going to say who, but that that
caught us by surprise. How that all worked out.

Speaker 7 (28:45):
We was you know, they can talk all they want
about it was it was misunderstanding. They were being coy.
I mean, let's be real. You were being cooy. You
were trying to make the Grave Bears think that he
was playing, and and you you knew he wasn't going
to play. When he's taking snaps with the scout team.
That's not limited that, I mean, that's not full participation.
That's limited. And so they knew what they were doing

(29:08):
and they'll probably get fined for it, and they should
get fined for it. But look, the Bear, whether you
knew he was playing or not, you went out there
and you were terrible. I mean, they have to be concerned.
That's two games in a row. The quarterback hasn't sort
of touchdown pass and that Ravens defense wasn't exactly lighting
things up going in. So no, so I think when

(29:29):
you look at it from that standpoint, yeah, the Ravens
played funny games with it and should get fined for
it and will get fined for it. But you know,
the reality is it didn't matter because the team didn't
play very well on the other side of the ball.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
Pete, what's your opinion on the New England Patriots. You
didn't name them as one of your good teams. What's
your take on what Mike Gravell has been able to
do in his first season there?

Speaker 7 (29:52):
Look, coaching quarterback, it's a coaching quarterback league. They got
a coach and they have a quarterback, and so yeah, look,
I give him a lot of credit for what they've done.
I think they're going to probably be a playoff team.
I just don't know if this is the year they're
ready to go make the deep playoff runt. You know. Look,
going to Buffalo and beating the Bills, that was an
impressive win. The rest of those wins on that schedule
are break good. They lost to the Steelers, they lost

(30:13):
to the Raiders, so there's red flags there, and the
teams they've beaten over the course of the last couple
weeks haven't exactly been a murderer's row of teams either.
So I like what they're doing. I thought they would
be a feisty, tough team that might win eight nine
games this year, and they're ahead of that, So I
give them credit. I'll tell you what, though, watch out
for them next year. That's all I have to say.

(30:34):
I think that team, with what they're doing and what
they're building to and that coach being there and that
quarterback being there, next year, they're going to be really
good and might go into the season with some people
picking them to win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
Oh, Pete, what pick did you make yesterday that you
were on the right side of but the team performed
under expectations?

Speaker 7 (30:56):
Well, I actually I actually had the Saints yesterday. But
I can't even I can't even look at that one.
That's pathetic. I mean, that's no. I mean, oh, yeah,
I thought, you know, why Brady get four and a half? Yeah,
And I thought that the short week for the Bucks
coming off of the game against the Bills, and I'm

(31:16):
sitting there going, Oh my god, what am I doing here?
The one that the one that I was on the
right side of, is the Bengals. You got a thirty
eight twenty four lead late in the game to the Jets.
You let Justin Fields come back and beat you. I mean,
are you kidding me? Give me a break. That's the one.
I mean, the built the Bengals are the one that

(31:37):
should have been. That should have been, no way they
we should lose that game. And and by the way,
you look up the stats, they gave up five and
ten yards and seven point two yards per play to
Justin Fields. I mean, think about that. That's incredible.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
That's sad. Dang, that's sad. You come at it that way,
like why are you like you? Are you and cahoots with?

Speaker 7 (32:00):
Like?

Speaker 3 (32:00):
Is that your guy?

Speaker 5 (32:01):
Like?

Speaker 3 (32:01):
Well, what you doing right now? Pete?

Speaker 7 (32:03):
I have nothing to do with Woody and Woody what
he said, what he did last week was wrong. Shouldn't
come out and say that publicly. But why do we
all go up in arms? And when a guy says
something bad about a player? I mean, are players above criticism?
I mean the owner of the football team said his

(32:25):
quarterback what basically said his quarterback stinks, right, that's what
he says, and that he was forced to play and
then he played pretty good football. But why all of
a sudden that we've become a society where, gosh, how
dare you talk poorly about that that that player? He
can you can't criticize him publicly? Why the hell can't he?
Why can't he? I mean, everybody criticizes Woody Johnson being

(32:48):
a crappy owner, don't they. I mean, the bottom line
is we've become so sensitive as a as a as
a football watching world and the media and everything else.
Oh no, I don't dare you criticize that player? Give
me a break. You pay a lot of money to
You're paid a lot of money to play a game.
If the worst thing, and I always say this, if
the worst thing that happens to you in your lifetime,

(33:11):
if you had a bad game, or you get criticized
by somebody in the media or the entire names, and
you've had a hell of a life. That's all I
got to say. When you're eighty years old, you look
back on it. I guarantee you, if you reach into
your pile full of problems, the last problem you're going
to pull out? Is the one that mattered to you
most is the one when you're criticized for playing a

(33:31):
bad football game.

Speaker 4 (33:33):
Yeah, you're almost at eighty, so you'd.

Speaker 7 (33:35):
Know Ray Rady. Like I say, buddy, you know what
four years for everyone in life for a football players,
about one hundred care about one hundred and forty two.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
So we'll see you.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
Well, all I know is what's good for me is
good for me, Pete. So I think you're it.

Speaker 7 (33:54):
That's a great lesson. That's a great lesson. Where'd you
learn that from? Brady?

Speaker 4 (33:57):
From the one and only Pete Prisco?

Speaker 3 (33:59):
And go on, body slam your little ass when we
see you, Pete, just know the super Bowl this year.

Speaker 4 (34:06):
No, he's on testosterone. He's a little more o cagual.
I'm going to the ground. He doesn't want to admit it.
He's on testosterone. He's a little strong.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
He gets loaded a ground of rolling with my foot,
he gets loaded the ground roll you, Pete. He tries
to come on, come on, no, never mind, and he'll
grab your nuts to a kid in high school, Yeah
that's not I yeah I did. I don't want those this.

Speaker 7 (34:29):
Year that kids screamed loud and long too.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
When I did that, and it'd be hard to to
like return to favor on you. I was reaching too
far down Pea. I figure like, I'm gonna leave you
alone on that one. Hey can I asked you a
question about the Giants Philly game, and I'm gonna ask
Dean Blandino the same question as well. The toush push
had a moment in that game. Thibodeau took the ball

(34:55):
from Jalen Hurts. He took it from him. How do
they call that down? That's not a fumble and a
fumble recovery when you're allowing for him to be pushed forward.
So if he's still being pushed forward and somebody grabs
the ball from him and the ball comes out, how

(35:15):
do you say he's down when in my estimation, that
should be a fumble and then and that should have
been a reward for the fact that somebody was able
to get to the ball and get the ball out
while they were trying to continue to push them. I mean,
am I offer that? Did you see that play?

Speaker 4 (35:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (35:32):
Percent agree with you on the play. The problem with
it is they blew it dead and.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
That's fair. That's fair.

Speaker 7 (35:41):
You know better than anybody. Once they blow it dead, ye,
something they can do about it. You were right the
way the play was happening in real time, it should
have been a fumble and they should have been awarded
the ball. But the reality is is they blew it dead.
And here's what when you think about this for a
second though, blowing it dead is something to get you

(36:02):
know when they do that. If there's a pile and
he was a body, so he was still on, he's
still up. But when there's a pile of bodies and
now what's the next step of that where you start
crawling on bodies to get it? You know what I mean,
there's a pile on your.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
They continue to push.

Speaker 7 (36:16):
That's why they pushing and putting cleats and guys back
to keep going on.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
Yes, that's the whole that's the whole debate of it
is that they keep pushing.

Speaker 7 (36:25):
Well the play. The play is stupid, and the play
will be gone after next year, there's no question about it.
I hate I hate the play because it's not football.
I give the Eagles a ton of credit for mastering
the play, and everybody has a hard time stopping it.
But the reality is, it's it's not a football player,
So it's just a massive bodies and it's boring to watch.
And I think they're gonna outlaw it next year. So

(36:48):
don't don't get two up in arms about it because
I think the play is going away.

Speaker 5 (36:51):
You can get them on ax at Prisco CBS. He
is Pete Prisco, senior NFL columnist for CBS Sports, CBS
Sports HQ analysts. Always a ride on a Monday morning
with Repete. We'll do it again next week.

Speaker 7 (37:03):
Preeze gopher. Oh wait, he said, Brady's car cooked.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
That animal got cooked in the bottom of the whip.

Speaker 7 (37:11):
You know what. You can go in there and find
that baby up and get some nice little gopher sandwiches
or something.

Speaker 4 (37:17):
Probably use some losing hot sauce. Their all of far.

Speaker 7 (37:19):
I mean, you know, people eat squirrel. People eat squirrel.
They say it tastes like chicken, you know, and I'm
sure the gopher would taste like chicken too, because everything
tastes like chicken. Do you ever ever go through that?
Everybody always says, whoa, yeah, how is that alligator? Oh
it tastes like chicken? How is this? How's the squirrel
tastes like chickens. Well, then just eat damn chicken. Then
why you eat the other crafts?

Speaker 3 (37:38):
Point great point, great point, point Pete, way to go.
You were on the right side of that comedy.

Speaker 4 (37:43):
Hey, yeah it was.

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Speaker 4 (38:47):
Time to find out what's left.

Speaker 7 (38:49):
Ton's incredible.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
Here's the leftovers?

Speaker 3 (38:53):
All right, Ray, Ray? What we got? All right?

Speaker 9 (38:55):
Boys, we have some interesting leftovers today.

Speaker 8 (38:58):
I know.

Speaker 9 (38:58):
I just sent you some text messages and initially I
was gonna do that as like my lasts. We'll start there.
Game three of the Playoffs is happening tonight, and there
is blue everywhere, all right. We got the Blue Jays blue,
and we got the Dodgers blue. So I sent you
boys two different photos of the blues, and I want
to know if you guys can guess which blue is
the blue?

Speaker 6 (39:18):
Yeah, the first one you sense the Dodgers, the Seconds,
the Blue Jazz.

Speaker 9 (39:22):
Okay, what do you think, Jonas?

Speaker 3 (39:25):
First one is yeah, I'm gonna go with Brady.

Speaker 4 (39:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
First one's the Dodgers, Seconds the Blue Jays, Okay, and
var I'm gonna go and reverse. I'm gonna say second
is the Dodgers and the first one is the Blue Jays. Sticks. Yeah,
the blue is the the blue is darker for the
Blue Jays ever so slightly.

Speaker 9 (39:52):
Yeah, yeah, super fun, great, great.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
Cool, awesome. That was it for that one. Nobody can
see it.

Speaker 9 (39:59):
We we do do our live streaming, so I wasn't
sure if we were going to have those up today
because that would be a fun push to go to
the podcast online on YouTube to go check out those pages.
But anyways, onto my next story for today. I don't
know if you saw this. The new NBA he rule
is paying off for Jamal Murray for of the Nuggets,
he made a buzzer beating shot from beyond half court.
The new rule is for the twenty five twenty six season,

(40:21):
and it says that a deep desperation shot taken in
the final second so the first three quarters will count
as a team attempt and not an individual one, so
the person doesn't have to worry about hurting their single
players shooting percentage.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
All right, that's just cool.

Speaker 4 (40:36):
To go NBA. Yeah, I figured out a way to
make me.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
Care less when Yama is a beast though. Yeah he is.
He is something else.

Speaker 5 (40:45):
It's going to get to the point pretty quickly here
that he's the best player in the league.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (40:50):
Well, I think you can understand too too, Like the
Trail Voice is would have tried to tank for him too.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
Yeah right, Approve he's a changer.

Speaker 6 (40:57):
Yeah, I mean, like honestly, like when the NBA and
the FBI everyone found out about that, they're like, well.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
Yeah, we get it.

Speaker 4 (41:03):
He's that good of a player.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
Yeah. Yeah, Well, you guys are that good of a player.
That's why I'm just going to get us out of
here right now.

Speaker 9 (41:10):
You all impress me.

Speaker 7 (41:11):
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