December 10, 2025 • 42 mins
In Hour 3 of the show today, the guys chat it up with Petros Papadakis as he gives his insight on College Football and the final playoff rankings which had its own controversy. Plus, the guys have some fun with the Leftovers, and more!
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Here live on the iHeartRadio app on hundreds of affiliates
all across the country. If you're listening on the podcast,
you know why you're here at this moment, because it
is time to welcome on the old pe Who Petros Papadakis,
the co host of the Petros and Money Show, which
you can hear on one of those affiliates, The Blowtorch
(01:35):
AM five seventy La Creal Fox College football analyst and
our good buddy Petros.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Good morning, Good morning everybody.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Hello.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Do you know the song Petros?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
It's about that's on Niki? Petros?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Did you pick the song?
Speaker 4 (01:54):
No?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
How did you know?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Because the first line he said, that's Niki move.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Yeah, I kind of want to go back to uh
jella and that song.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Ah, how did you know?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Well you said it? Where does that?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Where does this song rank amongst popular Greek songs of
all time?
Speaker 6 (02:16):
I'm not really sure. It's probably pretty big and Thatsalikya, but.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
It's a that'salo.
Speaker 6 (02:24):
Niki is like the San Francisco to if Athens is
la That'salik's like San Francisco.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
It's a northern Greek town.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Can you take us one day? Can we go on
a trip.
Speaker 7 (02:34):
I've never been to the Sikile, that's even more reason
for us all go.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
I know people that used to live there.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Though.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
It's a nice place. I heard it's really cool.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Where do you go when you go to Greece?
Speaker 6 (02:46):
I was married in a town on the backside of
the island of Rhodes, which is not a place where
my family is from. But ever since we got married
there in the Greek church and my wife converted in
all that, people in the village sort of remember us.
So I like to go back there. But this time
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of year it's desolate. I mean, there's nobody there. Greek
islands are very seasonal, so the people that live there
during this time of year live a very austere, spartan lifestyle.
There's not much open, there's no club life, it's cold,
it rains, so it's really a summertime thing out there.
(03:30):
But the town I got married and if anybody wants
to look it up, is a place called Landos l
n dos Rhads, which is very old old actually, the
village predates the name of the island of Rhodes and
was mentioned in the Iliad by Homer, So they're very
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proud and there's about three hundred of them. And there's
a lot of British people there because Roads used to
be a British island during the Crusades, so there's British
castles and stuff like that. And there's a lot of
automate influence because Rhodes is really close to Turkey the Turkeys, Yeah,
(04:14):
used to be Turkey, so and that that's also very
volatile between the Greeks and the Turk. So very interesting
place of antiquity.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
But my family, very interesting history.
Speaker 6 (04:26):
Lesson my family is from the Peloponti switch is below Athens.
Speaker 7 (04:32):
Did you get good grades, man, No, like you're super smart,
And I was about to say you probably got horrible grades.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
You're probably just an average student.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
I was not a good student. I did better in college, okay.
Speaker 7 (04:45):
And the reason why I say that, let me let
me qualify it because and I'm calling you a brilliant
dude on having information. No, you are a pretty brilliant dude.
Speaker 8 (04:55):
Man.
Speaker 7 (04:55):
I listened to the things you say. But generally people
is intelligent as you are aren't stimulated enough because you're
generally probably more intelligent than the person who was probably
tasked with educating you. So you end up being a
person that it doesn't do very well in school.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
So I was not a good student.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Okay, you weren't interested, that's.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
All I guess not I was seen as an idiot.
Speaker 7 (05:21):
Yeah, class clown, but your class clownness, your class clownness
was offensive and bothersome to those who ran the classrooms
because it was over their head or.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Its equal trying to learn?
Speaker 7 (05:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I good at the normal better
the normals.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
You know, you're you're not a normal dude. Bro, You're
a pretty different dude.
Speaker 7 (05:43):
And speaking of different dudes, why don't you ever come
to the NFF dinner?
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Man?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
What's the NFF? National Football Foundation?
Speaker 3 (05:51):
You're?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Oh, what's good about football? Man? Like, you know, I
do this campaign.
Speaker 7 (05:54):
I'm gonna get Q one day as well, but I
do interviews for podcasts do called good in the game,
and it's for the National Football Foundation. It's like all
about talking about things that had led to you being
like who you are and how much the game.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Played a part in it.
Speaker 7 (06:11):
Uh, I feel like this event would be I know
you don't like being around people, but it still seems
like it would be an event where.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Where you have to get on a plane.
Speaker 7 (06:22):
Yeahs, don't have to You don't have to fly. You
can draft Vegas. Isn't a bad draft from where you're at.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
No, I've done it.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
I went to the Mountain West Media Day and I
was just in Vegas calling a football game at Allegiant.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Yeah, did you fly or did you draft?
Speaker 6 (06:38):
I flew because I had to fly to San Diego
afterwards and call another game in San Diego?
Speaker 2 (06:43):
You did JSX?
Speaker 3 (06:45):
What is that jet?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Sweet X? It's like a privat jet, but it's like
a public private jet.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
I didn't do that.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
That definitely afraid of flying.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
I don't like it. No, huh, Like what does that happen?
It all the time?
Speaker 6 (07:01):
Yeah, don't you guys want to talk about college football?
Speaker 7 (07:07):
I'm enjoying breaking you down. Yeah, I mean, you know,
we bring a lot of time.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
You know, when I was a child, I was gripped
with fear and then I kind of just sort of.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Bulowed over with with uh just will.
Speaker 6 (07:21):
But now that I'm getting older, I'm becoming very afraid again.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
How do you play football when you're gripped with fear?
Speaker 7 (07:29):
Like that's a total antithesis, answered, give it to us fearfully.
You know, we started the show with Mark, with Big
John Henderson, and you remember the clip of him getting
smacked by by his trainer and he's like, come on,
(07:50):
come on, slap me harder, and like he said, because
he was super like, No, I don't think he said scared,
but he said crazy, nervous and wanted to get his
it out before he even went out on the field.
So you would have his trainer slapped the hell out
of him in the training room before he went out
to the field for warm ups.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Yes, anxiety.
Speaker 7 (08:10):
Did you have somebody slapping the hell out of you
to get the anxiety out of you?
Speaker 3 (08:13):
I did not.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Gripping fear.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
I didn't. Maybe I should have, well, talk to us,
talk to us.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
So what you've witnessed from college football, there's been a
lot of that conversation going on. I'm kind of curious
the playoff, the group of six teams getting in and
didn't get left out.
Speaker 6 (08:32):
It's really it's really becoming quite a saga, isn't it.
And the whole story about when they expanded the playoff,
and some of the detractors said, but people aren't going
to care about who doesn't get in if so many
teams get in. I think that story or narrative has
kind of been crushed, especially this year. And I think
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the College Football Playoff really did benefit last year from
having Notre Dame play in four of the games, and
that became a huge story. And Notre Dame is the
number one brand in all of college sports. So they
are upset and but heard about this because they feel used.
They feel used, I believe by Disney and the ESPN entity.
(09:21):
Here's what bothers me about it. ESPN has a big
stake in the ACC, right if they don't basically own it. Yeah,
they own the SEC, they own the College Football Playoff.
They own a bunch of shows that sit there and
argue about all of it and wag the dog and
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get everybody all riled up, including the selection show, which
Notre Dame feels misled by. And then we all go
through these machinations or these stages of the cross or
whatever you call it to satisfy ESPN basically in a
(10:08):
giant circle jerky. It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
It's everybody.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
It's all the same people doing the same thing and
creating the story. Notre Dame obviously, I mean two things
can be true at the same time. Is Notre Dame
being a little bit petulant? Perhaps, But do they have
a point? Absolutely, they have a point, and they feel
on the outside of this. Notre Dame is the only team.
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I'm pretty sure, as was evidenced by the Longhorn Network,
Notre Dame is the only team that can have their
own TV deal and they've proven it out since what
is it, nineteen ninety one?
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Nineteen?
Speaker 6 (10:54):
How long have they been on an NBC forever? And
as long as somebody's willing to pay them and they
have their own TV deal, they don't have to join
anybody's conference or playing anybody's reindeer games. Maybe they have
to adjust their scheduling. I don't know, but I see
their point. Maybe Bovaqua has done one or two too
(11:17):
many press conferences, but I understand that they're upset about it,
and I just what bothers me is.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
I don't like pretending.
Speaker 6 (11:28):
That ESPN doesn't own it all and is pulling all
the strings, and that's part of the problem. And Fox,
where we work, as part of the problem too, because
they own the Big ten and represent the Big ten
and both entities run college football, and we're basically making
it up as we go along, and that's going to
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lead to a lot of incongruity. That's always been our sport.
There's always been a lot of confusion and a lot
of argument. It's kind of made the sport what it is,
and the regional nature of the sport and people having
temper tantrums and getting upset and calling others out and
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press conferences and things like that is part of it. So,
I mean, I understand it pretty well. But the part
that bothers me is that ESPN owns all of it
and we're all just going through the motions for him,
and I'm tired of that.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
So I've kind of taken this stance on on social
media for whatever the whatever that matters. But Notre Dame
decides to opt out of the ball game, and I
understand the motivations as to why, based on how ESPN
handled the college football playoffs, some of the things that
were told in the weeks leading up that they were
going to be good, they were going to make it
in and obviously that rug gap pulled out from underneath
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of them in the final ranking, and then you know,
ESPN turns around and says.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Hey, but come play this bull game. You know you
want to play for a national.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
Chance we own and we're gonna, Yeah, we're going to
man pop Tart. Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna make you
do snow Angels in the rosting.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
And we're going to make sure that we bring in
a team that also didn't get in as frustrated in BYU,
and we're going to promote the fact that neither of
your institutions wants anyone to have sex before marriage and
go from there. But there's a lot of pushback from people,
and it feels like it's mostly from ESPN folks because
obviously this hurts their bottom line, but even like other
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people out there, which they're chiming in, and I'm kind
of like, here's my opinion on all this. We played
in a Bowl game when after ty Wllingham got fired,
and we voted as a team to do it because
of a lot of our upper classmen said, unless you're
playing for a national championship, which at that day and
age right, it was all the BCS or at BCS
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New York six game, you don't go. And we had
to convince our upper class and to go and it
was like a sixty to forty VOA. And you know
what happened in that bowl game. No one took a
we got beat up. No one took us seriously, Like
the coaches were looking for jobs players. Everyone was going
out the entire time. We're in Scott's though. No one
took it seriously, and everyone says, like, we'll look back
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on it, you know, would you have done something differently? Yeah,
probably not go Probably not go to a bowl game
that it was a great experience. I had a fun
time with my teammates, but it was basically a party.
Could have done that on campus, could have gone on
vacation together, something else. And so today, like twenty some
years later, like I look at a Petros and guys
are opting out because they either going to the draft
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or maybe they're just going to go in the transfer portal,
or maybe there's even some players who have some injuries
that need to get stuff taken care of. Coaches are
looking at the transfer port that comes up here in
January trying to either retain.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Guys or fill in spots in their roster.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
It's like it almost makes the case like why would
you play an exhibition game if you're not playing for
national championship. Like, I understand that everyood loves football is
for the love of the game and all that, but
really it's like, what's the upside.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Anymore with some of these games?
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Some of them?
Speaker 6 (14:51):
Right, every team has their own story and every individual
coach and group of players has its own motivation. So
I think you're absolutely right. For some people, it doesn't
make sense. For others, they're hypermotivated to have the extra
practice and try to keep the team together and retain players,
or have one more game together and do all that
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stuff that we say. I think it goes both ways,
and I absolutely agree with all of your points.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
I don't think Notre Dame wanted.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
To play in ESPN's charade this year after they felt
used by ESPN during the year, and I think that's
absolutely fine that they didn't want.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
To do it.
Speaker 6 (15:38):
And it's totally understandable for some people or some teams
and some individuals the Bowl game is meaningful. For others,
just depending on circumstance.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
It isn't.
Speaker 6 (15:52):
And I think that's fine. If I'm Notre Dame, I
wouldn't want to go have mayonnaise port all over my head,
or run around with the giant pop tart and sit
there and play while the announcers eat and chew in
the microphone. I totally get it. It totally makes sense
to me. The Bowl season has become something different. I
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don't know if it's going to go away, or how
many will go away, or what will happen, but I
think you're absolutely right. It's just the part that bothers
me is that everybody just acts like the whole thing's
not orchestrated by ESPN and their pundits go on and
make all these points and get all excited and point counterpoint,
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and of course we don't have any like It's the
most ridiculous thing in the world. It's worse than politics.
And that's part of the problem here. I think, if
you're going to have a committee, which it's not necessary,
but if you're going to have a committee, just have
football people. Are media people like Ivan masl Is on there.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
That's great.
Speaker 6 (16:58):
The guys worked everywhere and Sports Illustrated and all that.
Chris All, Mike Riley, Wesley Walls like those are hardcore
football people. But with all due respect to administrators, ads
are politicians, and politicians do what they flip on public opinion.
They have yeah, politics, politics, publicy, no backbone whatsoever. And
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that's why you'll have Notre Dame ahead of Miami all
year and then suddenly the year ends and it flips
because of political pressure.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
And that's what you have.
Speaker 6 (17:37):
On this board or committee or whatever with a bunch
of ads. If you need to have an administrator, have
one ad be in charge of the whole thing and administrate.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
But to have a bunch of.
Speaker 6 (17:51):
Ads in this group makes the group political and politics suck.
If you're going to have a Maybee, you have hardcore
football people, and you'll probably have a less offensive vote
at the end of the year or less surprising vote
at the end of the year.
Speaker 7 (18:09):
Pat tros H, let me follow up on what Q
was saying. Not to step on one, you Jones, but
they want to get too far away from what Q
said the first time in track Yeah yeah, ten dollars yeah,
uh so, so let me ask you.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Let me ask you.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
This, Does this actually create a critical mass situation in
your estimation, like the fact that the premise behind why
Notre Dame doesn't want to do it, you know, doesn't
want to play this game and do the ring around
the Rosie dance with ESPN. Does this set a precedence
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that could be dangerous to ESPN moving forward?
Speaker 6 (18:50):
Well, I don't think they're going to sell off their stuff.
I think what's likely to happen is they'll be a
bigger playoff. ESPN will sell off some of that to Fox,
just like they've sold some of it off.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
To TNT, and the charade will continue.
Speaker 6 (19:05):
I think the conference championship games are obviously in jeopardy
unless they become playoff elimination.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Games, which would make a little bit more sense.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
And then you have the big mass of bowl games.
Some of those are probably going to end up going
away as well. We need a commissioner or some kind
of czar of college football, but who's going to agree
on that. I mean, the two people that are in
charge are the people that run ESPEN and Fox, behind
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the proxies of the big ten in the SEC. So
I think that we reach critical mass a few years ago,
probably LeVar, But there's nobody with enough power to get
everybody under the same roof and to fix the thing.
So if what you like about college football is the chaos,
which is basically what it's always been, then this is
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a great.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Time to alive.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Has what college football's turned into because you're somebody who
grew up family history in college football, you love the
traditions all that come along with it. Has sort of,
and we talked about a little in the offseason, has
this mixed with, you know, the business side and the
discussions and the has it kind of I don't want
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that tainted. For lack of a better term, I don't know.
I mean, it's all on the whole sport, not.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
Really, because if you look back on it, there really
is no good reason that we have and I'm sure
I've made this point before, but there's no good reason
to have these gigantic, multi billion dollar football entities within
our institutions of higher education. In so many ways, the
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football team has become the identity of a lot of
these schools, and those two things they really don't jib
It's just something that happened in the early part of
the twentieth century. And I don't think it happened on purpose.
It happened because the sport was popular and there was
a demand for it, just like it would happen with
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any sport that got popular. The pile of money that
started being made by the athletic departments because of the
TV deals and all the endowment and the boosters and
all that stuff. It got so big that it kind
of towered behind the people that were in front of it,
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and that money has to be distributed to people that
are playing.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
At this point, it just has to be.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
We could say when Mike was going to games with
my grandfather and my dad at the coliseum and watching
players play and listening to the fight song, that it
was a purer time.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
But what's so pure about it?
Speaker 6 (21:53):
You have a bunch of guys making a bunch of
money for the university that end up getting spit out
by the program when their career is over. We've all
seen what football can do for people in a positive way,
we've all seen what it can do for people in
a negative way, and we've all seen the ugly side
of the sport, however you want to define that. And
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all of that stuff was going on when we thought
the game was more quote unquote pure. So I think
we've always been in the sewer and now it's just
a lot harder to maintain a team and grow a
team and to cultivate a culture, but that doesn't mean
we still don't have culture, and we still don't have games,
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and we still don't have identities of coaches and programs.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
So I look back.
Speaker 6 (22:42):
I try to avoid talking about the good old days
because I don't think they exist. I think this has
been an evolving kind of It's been an evolving anomaly
for over one hundred years, ever since Redgrange made the
sport popular at Illinois. And we live in it now
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and there's nobody. The NCAA is two week to take over.
The TV companies aren't going to get along and promote us.
I mean, we've had some uniformity. The SEC agreed to
play the extra conference game and all that, and they
closed one of the transfer portals. So you could say
that's progress, but it's a little bit like throwing a
deck chair off the Titanic with all the stuff that's
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going on.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
It's a great visual.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
By the way, you also talked about the expansion and
Fox can get peace. I'm not so sure a little
bit because of how divisive things are between ESPN and Fox.
And they'll be do a TNT branding. I believe on
this year's playoff in some games. I mean, TNT is
really not involved much at all in college football.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
But I digress. I want to generally ask you this.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
You're done with call on games, like, yes, well obviously
you got the radio show going on, But is this
kind of a like what do you venture into this
time of year?
Speaker 6 (24:02):
Some other stuff you guys are doing. I assume family
traveling all that. I wish I could find a way
to make some more money, but well, the Pro Football
Foundation or the National NFF give me some money.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
To tell my story.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
Yeah, I need money, but this time of year I
just kind of delve back into family life and try
to make sure trying to make sure that everybody gets
their holiday wishes, and trying to support my wife. It's
not an easy time because you kind of strive and
strive for the year to end, as you guys know,
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in the football season, and then the year ends and
you remember all of the problems that you had before
it began, and you kind of.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Have to go back to working on those. So that's
kind of where I'm at.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
Usually I go through a real state of elation when
the season is over, and then a feeling of loss
and desolation, which is what.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Is there any sort of optimism or positivity. Can you
can talk to us about.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
This time of day?
Speaker 2 (25:10):
No, I mean the Dodgers signed Edwin.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
Yeah, the trumpet guy, he plays a trumpet out of his.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Ass and then he comes. They do that, the Dodgers, Yeah,
they're gonna do it. Oh yeah.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
They used to have the Eric Gangne Welcome to the Jungle,
and he used to come out and blow people down.
And then they had California Love with Kenley Jansen not
as popular, and now they'll do the trumpet butt call.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Well, Petro's gonna be great always. Uh, He's appreciated.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
It's another guy that blew out his knee celebrating like
Martine great Gramatica.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Yeah, yeah in the the World Baseball Classic.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
I believe when he did it.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Yeah, WBC.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Petros Papa Vegas, the co host of the Petros and
Money Show, which you can hear on the Blowtorch A
five seventy l a Sports Fox college football analyst. He
can get him on X at the old p Petros.
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Petro a best is I need more money?
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Thought that was good every goal starman.
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Speaker 2 (30:08):
Yesterday? Did you beat it? Beast? What a good dude, man?
What an incredible athlete?
Speaker 7 (30:15):
I mean I was watching him walk and I was like,
it makes sense why he revived ray Lewis's career.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Like sheh, A guy that big that can move.
Speaker 7 (30:27):
That well, I mean, and he once again, dude was
yoked like that big strong yoked up, though not the
like bodybuilder yoked up like like like I'll run through
a wall type yoked up like some impressive dudes you'd
be seeing.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Man, I did I call that farmstrong? Like if you
need to move a cow, like he can move livestock.
Speaker 7 (30:50):
Bruh, like easily, Like no problem, move miss Lucy over there?
Who's miss Lucy? Oh that's that big old cow right
over there. Just pick it up and move it right
on up lips. Really yeah, that's a big bitch. And
he'll move he'll move it, He'll move it. And just
(31:11):
the nicest dude you could ever, super humble, super cool,
you know, he claims his tongue in heritage like straight
up bad ass tongueing bro like he don't be they
don't play around, you know. I gotta admit, like if
I'm if I'm being totally honest. I never used to
understand why so many, so many football players that were
(31:34):
from like that culture did that, like they punched their forearm,
you know, like after they make a play, they they go,
they do that punching of their form and stuff like that.
Then I realized, that's the island. You know what, what's
the name of the I don't know, I don't want
to mispronounce it, but the tongue in island like they
they make a tea like when they make a play,
(31:57):
like I'm tonguing like it's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Man.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Well, he was born Inglewood, so I don't know if
that's near the island you're talking about, but.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
I think it's family's Polynesian. He wasn't a not not
not a tongue.
Speaker 7 (32:10):
I'm certain that regardless of him being uh born in
Inglewood to spoil everything, he's not Inglewoodian. I'm just I'm
just letting you know, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
I'm just you know, I'm not well versed on the island.
I'm gonna tell you, and I'm gonna tell you in
a second.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
Tongua is the tongue you like how Jonas was sitting
on that too, just waiting for you to get done.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
So you go, Well, he was born in Inglewood. It
was very it was it was.
Speaker 7 (32:40):
You know, that was like a Smither's hard or swing
like it was flimsy.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Knox with the job.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Yeah, it was Knox with the job again.
Speaker 7 (32:49):
Well, he's Inglewoody and he's he's a Los Angeles guy.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
He was born in Inglewood.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Yeah, you might have a Hall of Fame case though, you.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Know NFL Hall of Fame on the Hall of Fame case. Yeah, certainly,
really good career.
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Speaker 2 (33:16):
You mad at me? Huh? You mad at me? Why
are you attacking me?
Speaker 10 (33:19):
Do we need to have a therapy session right now?
Speaker 7 (33:21):
Why is it Loreno? Why is he being so so aggressive?
You don't want right now.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
You know why I FaceTime you during the break. He
didn't answer, did you are that's true? Let me look yep,
great is my first time?
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Da does am? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (33:41):
You did?
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Didn't work?
Speaker 3 (33:44):
My bad.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
That's that's like an hour ago. We were like talking.
Speaker 7 (33:47):
That's not like just just now. It was like an
hour ago. And my my ringer is on kids soundin.
Can we talk about did you hear my phone ring?
Speaker 3 (33:56):
I did not?
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Yeah, I didn't hear it ring either.
Speaker 5 (33:58):
Can we talk about the the uh? Well, we're quit
talking about it. Like Matt Campbell's a coach of Penn State.
He kind of glossed over that.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Yeah he is.
Speaker 7 (34:06):
Yeah, and next, I love a hire. Yes, I like
him as a person. I got an opportunity to get
an exclusive with him, a first time sit down as
the new head coach. I thought he had a lot
of insightful things to say. Super humble, dude, down to earth,
well wired is what I would say. He's rooted in family,
(34:29):
he's he's rooted in his beliefs, and I think he
has the type of personality that will resonate with with
our community and I'm.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Very I'm very hopeful for it.
Speaker 7 (34:40):
I think not only is he a fine ball coach,
and you can look at his resume and see that
he's he's a very very fine ball coach, but you know,
we need.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Somebody that that has.
Speaker 7 (34:53):
That has a healthy level of separation from from what
things have been. Like it's time to really, like I
was telling Herban Meyer this yesterday, it's really time to
turn the page.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
There needs to be a.
Speaker 7 (35:10):
New energy in terms of it just doesn't need to
be every single thing we do, every single thing we
say is ultimately gauged and measured and thrown out there
as it's something from the old days. Like I think
I make the reference point of this hire gives us
(35:33):
the opportunity to run the race with our eyes on
the finish line. I've never seen anybody win a race
with looking behind them. So there's too much looking behind
that's been taking place, too much discussions of it, too
much of that being the overwhelming arcing conversation, and it
(35:57):
just needs to like at this point, just it's so tiring,
it's it's so much fatigue. Let's move on as a school,
as as a community, and as a football program. Let's
move on and let's be elite let's allow a coach
to be who he wants to be and be how
(36:18):
he needs to be to be a successful coach.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Let's let's allow it to be what it needs to be.
Speaker 7 (36:25):
And I feel like this is the proper time for it,
you know, And maybe as unfortunate for James Franklin that
it didn't kind of it didn't play out that way
for him. He was measured and judged off of the
running with your head backwards and I think a lot
of us were guilty of it. But I think that
this the wake up call of how things ended with
(36:46):
James Franklin and and then the harsh reality of oh yeah,
we could we could slip into mediocrity and be a
program that falls into the abyss and never comes back.
It could happen, and I think that that alarm sounded
(37:12):
and there's a sense of understanding that I think there's
a great feeling of relief when Campbell was named the
head coach because of the quality of person and coach
that he is. And I also think there's a level
of understanding and clarity on the fact that stop running away,
(37:33):
running people away from what we have going on by
coming across as we're so pro this and it has
to be said, and it has to be that, and
it has to be based upon what it was and
how it was and this is how it was done.
Like it's a rap for that, like wrap it up
(37:55):
and send it on its way. So yeah, I'm happy
for the hire and I think is going to be
a great hire.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Obviously.
Speaker 7 (38:02):
I think it is great that they retain Terry Smith
in the scenario, in the situation, I think he will
play a very critical part in making sure that the
bridging of the gap, so to speak, and some of
the things that need to take place for Matt Campbell
to get up to speak quickly. Terry Smith will have
some very very positive insight on that.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
He's a program builder.
Speaker 5 (38:25):
He's done a lot with a little and now he's
going to have a lot more talent, a lot more
money to go recruit and build a roster.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
So excited for what he's going to be at Penn State.
I think love that.
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Speaker 4 (39:29):
There are some good things that happen, and there's some bad,
and then there's some downright ugly things.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
It's time for oh I just today. Time to find
out what's last incredible left over? See what had happened
was day? How is every get right?
Speaker 7 (39:57):
See what had happened, was gonna go ahead?
Speaker 10 (40:02):
Is still here?
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Damn say well done, well done, Lorraine, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 10 (40:10):
So let's let's try and get into this a little bit.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (40:15):
Yeah, we talked about Shador yesterday. Uh huh uh you
guys and the people were accusing Shore wearing a thong, yes,
a man thong, while Shiloh his brother reached out over
a FaceTime to clarify. Let's head over to the audio tape.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
Let's not.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Hello, bro, what's going on with you?
Speaker 7 (40:39):
Bro?
Speaker 2 (40:40):
You forgotta back in? You're right, so I get my
back tape. But that is crazy that it is look
like that.
Speaker 5 (40:46):
That's funny though, Nah man, I know you're not gonna
do nothing like that, right you just starting the brown.
Speaker 7 (40:56):
How do you feel playing a good game and then
everything gets shadowed by your thong? It did look like
a thong, man, And if they were taping it to
make it back feel better, whoever did that?
Speaker 5 (41:12):
You wrong as hell for making it look like a
a skin tone thong. That's what have you have you guys?
Ever worn a throng before? I'm not gonna ask.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
Like like for real, for real, Yeah, I'm asking the question.
Speaker 9 (41:29):
No, never, never, Jonas really never, like joking jokingly, like
about the mess with you around the crib, like chase
you with some cowboy boots, a cowboy hat on it,
and ye yeah I've done that.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
I have done that.
Speaker 7 (41:45):
Ham big, big old black man with some cowboy boots
of cowboys.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Bootless chaps, right, that'd be nice dying.
Speaker 7 (41:56):
Yeah, I didn't get into all of that, like that's
too deep, that that that's too.
Speaker 10 (42:00):
We're just service level around here. Have a good day, guys,
Happy Wednesday.
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Speaker 2 (01:42):
Good morning, Good morning everybody.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Hello.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Do you know the song Petros?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
It's about that's on Niki? Petros?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Did you pick the song?
Speaker 4 (01:54):
No?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
How did you know?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Because the first line he said, that's Niki move.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Yeah, I kind of want to go back to uh
jella and that song.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Ah, how did you know?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Well you said it? Where does that?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Where does this song rank amongst popular Greek songs of
all time?
Speaker 6 (02:16):
I'm not really sure. It's probably pretty big and Thatsalikya, but.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
It's a that'salo.
Speaker 6 (02:24):
Niki is like the San Francisco to if Athens is
la That'salik's like San Francisco.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
It's a northern Greek town.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Can you take us one day? Can we go on
a trip.
Speaker 7 (02:34):
I've never been to the Sikile, that's even more reason
for us all go.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
I know people that used to live there.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Though.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
It's a nice place. I heard it's really cool.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Where do you go when you go to Greece?
Speaker 6 (02:46):
I was married in a town on the backside of
the island of Rhodes, which is not a place where
my family is from. But ever since we got married
there in the Greek church and my wife converted in
all that, people in the village sort of remember us.
So I like to go back there. But this time
(03:08):
of year it's desolate. I mean, there's nobody there. Greek
islands are very seasonal, so the people that live there
during this time of year live a very austere, spartan lifestyle.
There's not much open, there's no club life, it's cold,
it rains, so it's really a summertime thing out there.
(03:30):
But the town I got married and if anybody wants
to look it up, is a place called Landos l
n dos Rhads, which is very old old actually, the
village predates the name of the island of Rhodes and
was mentioned in the Iliad by Homer, So they're very
(03:51):
proud and there's about three hundred of them. And there's
a lot of British people there because Roads used to
be a British island during the Crusades, so there's British
castles and stuff like that. And there's a lot of
automate influence because Rhodes is really close to Turkey the Turkeys, Yeah,
(04:14):
used to be Turkey, so and that that's also very
volatile between the Greeks and the Turk. So very interesting
place of antiquity.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
But my family, very interesting history.
Speaker 6 (04:26):
Lesson my family is from the Peloponti switch is below Athens.
Speaker 7 (04:32):
Did you get good grades, man, No, like you're super smart,
And I was about to say you probably got horrible grades.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
You're probably just an average student.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
I was not a good student. I did better in college, okay.
Speaker 7 (04:45):
And the reason why I say that, let me let
me qualify it because and I'm calling you a brilliant
dude on having information. No, you are a pretty brilliant dude.
Speaker 8 (04:55):
Man.
Speaker 7 (04:55):
I listened to the things you say. But generally people
is intelligent as you are aren't stimulated enough because you're
generally probably more intelligent than the person who was probably
tasked with educating you. So you end up being a
person that it doesn't do very well in school.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
So I was not a good student.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Okay, you weren't interested, that's.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
All I guess not I was seen as an idiot.
Speaker 7 (05:21):
Yeah, class clown, but your class clownness, your class clownness
was offensive and bothersome to those who ran the classrooms
because it was over their head or.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Its equal trying to learn?
Speaker 7 (05:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I good at the normal better
the normals.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
You know, you're you're not a normal dude. Bro, You're
a pretty different dude.
Speaker 7 (05:43):
And speaking of different dudes, why don't you ever come
to the NFF dinner?
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Man?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
What's the NFF? National Football Foundation?
Speaker 3 (05:51):
You're?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Oh, what's good about football? Man? Like, you know, I
do this campaign.
Speaker 7 (05:54):
I'm gonna get Q one day as well, but I
do interviews for podcasts do called good in the game,
and it's for the National Football Foundation. It's like all
about talking about things that had led to you being
like who you are and how much the game.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Played a part in it.
Speaker 7 (06:11):
Uh, I feel like this event would be I know
you don't like being around people, but it still seems
like it would be an event where.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Where you have to get on a plane.
Speaker 7 (06:22):
Yeahs, don't have to You don't have to fly. You
can draft Vegas. Isn't a bad draft from where you're at.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
No, I've done it.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
I went to the Mountain West Media Day and I
was just in Vegas calling a football game at Allegiant.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Yeah, did you fly or did you draft?
Speaker 6 (06:38):
I flew because I had to fly to San Diego
afterwards and call another game in San Diego?
Speaker 2 (06:43):
You did JSX?
Speaker 3 (06:45):
What is that jet?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Sweet X? It's like a privat jet, but it's like
a public private jet.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
I didn't do that.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
That definitely afraid of flying.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
I don't like it. No, huh, Like what does that happen?
It all the time?
Speaker 6 (07:01):
Yeah, don't you guys want to talk about college football?
Speaker 7 (07:07):
I'm enjoying breaking you down. Yeah, I mean, you know,
we bring a lot of time.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
You know, when I was a child, I was gripped
with fear and then I kind of just sort of.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Bulowed over with with uh just will.
Speaker 6 (07:21):
But now that I'm getting older, I'm becoming very afraid again.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
How do you play football when you're gripped with fear?
Speaker 7 (07:29):
Like that's a total antithesis, answered, give it to us fearfully.
You know, we started the show with Mark, with Big
John Henderson, and you remember the clip of him getting
smacked by by his trainer and he's like, come on,
(07:50):
come on, slap me harder, and like he said, because
he was super like, No, I don't think he said scared,
but he said crazy, nervous and wanted to get his
it out before he even went out on the field.
So you would have his trainer slapped the hell out
of him in the training room before he went out
to the field for warm ups.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Yes, anxiety.
Speaker 7 (08:10):
Did you have somebody slapping the hell out of you
to get the anxiety out of you?
Speaker 3 (08:13):
I did not.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Gripping fear.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
I didn't. Maybe I should have, well, talk to us,
talk to us.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
So what you've witnessed from college football, there's been a
lot of that conversation going on. I'm kind of curious
the playoff, the group of six teams getting in and
didn't get left out.
Speaker 6 (08:32):
It's really it's really becoming quite a saga, isn't it.
And the whole story about when they expanded the playoff,
and some of the detractors said, but people aren't going
to care about who doesn't get in if so many
teams get in. I think that story or narrative has
kind of been crushed, especially this year. And I think
(08:56):
the College Football Playoff really did benefit last year from
having Notre Dame play in four of the games, and
that became a huge story. And Notre Dame is the
number one brand in all of college sports. So they
are upset and but heard about this because they feel used.
They feel used, I believe by Disney and the ESPN entity.
(09:21):
Here's what bothers me about it. ESPN has a big
stake in the ACC, right if they don't basically own it. Yeah,
they own the SEC, they own the College Football Playoff.
They own a bunch of shows that sit there and
argue about all of it and wag the dog and
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get everybody all riled up, including the selection show, which
Notre Dame feels misled by. And then we all go
through these machinations or these stages of the cross or
whatever you call it to satisfy ESPN basically in a
(10:08):
giant circle jerky. It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
It's everybody.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
It's all the same people doing the same thing and
creating the story. Notre Dame obviously, I mean two things
can be true at the same time. Is Notre Dame
being a little bit petulant? Perhaps, But do they have
a point? Absolutely, they have a point, and they feel
on the outside of this. Notre Dame is the only team.
(10:40):
I'm pretty sure, as was evidenced by the Longhorn Network,
Notre Dame is the only team that can have their
own TV deal and they've proven it out since what
is it, nineteen ninety one?
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Nineteen?
Speaker 6 (10:54):
How long have they been on an NBC forever? And
as long as somebody's willing to pay them and they
have their own TV deal, they don't have to join
anybody's conference or playing anybody's reindeer games. Maybe they have
to adjust their scheduling. I don't know, but I see
their point. Maybe Bovaqua has done one or two too
(11:17):
many press conferences, but I understand that they're upset about it,
and I just what bothers me is.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
I don't like pretending.
Speaker 6 (11:28):
That ESPN doesn't own it all and is pulling all
the strings, and that's part of the problem. And Fox,
where we work, as part of the problem too, because
they own the Big ten and represent the Big ten
and both entities run college football, and we're basically making
it up as we go along, and that's going to
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lead to a lot of incongruity. That's always been our sport.
There's always been a lot of confusion and a lot
of argument. It's kind of made the sport what it is,
and the regional nature of the sport and people having
temper tantrums and getting upset and calling others out and
(12:10):
press conferences and things like that is part of it. So,
I mean, I understand it pretty well. But the part
that bothers me is that ESPN owns all of it
and we're all just going through the motions for him,
and I'm tired of that.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
So I've kind of taken this stance on on social
media for whatever the whatever that matters. But Notre Dame
decides to opt out of the ball game, and I
understand the motivations as to why, based on how ESPN
handled the college football playoffs, some of the things that
were told in the weeks leading up that they were
going to be good, they were going to make it
in and obviously that rug gap pulled out from underneath
(12:45):
of them in the final ranking, and then you know,
ESPN turns around and says.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Hey, but come play this bull game. You know you
want to play for a national.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
Chance we own and we're gonna, Yeah, we're going to
man pop Tart. Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna make you
do snow Angels in the rosting.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
And we're going to make sure that we bring in
a team that also didn't get in as frustrated in BYU,
and we're going to promote the fact that neither of
your institutions wants anyone to have sex before marriage and
go from there. But there's a lot of pushback from people,
and it feels like it's mostly from ESPN folks because
obviously this hurts their bottom line, but even like other
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people out there, which they're chiming in, and I'm kind
of like, here's my opinion on all this. We played
in a Bowl game when after ty Wllingham got fired,
and we voted as a team to do it because
of a lot of our upper classmen said, unless you're
playing for a national championship, which at that day and
age right, it was all the BCS or at BCS
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New York six game, you don't go. And we had
to convince our upper class and to go and it
was like a sixty to forty VOA. And you know
what happened in that bowl game. No one took a
we got beat up. No one took us seriously, Like
the coaches were looking for jobs players. Everyone was going
out the entire time. We're in Scott's though. No one
took it seriously, and everyone says, like, we'll look back
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on it, you know, would you have done something differently? Yeah,
probably not go Probably not go to a bowl game
that it was a great experience. I had a fun
time with my teammates, but it was basically a party.
Could have done that on campus, could have gone on
vacation together, something else. And so today, like twenty some
years later, like I look at a Petros and guys
are opting out because they either going to the draft
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or maybe they're just going to go in the transfer portal,
or maybe there's even some players who have some injuries
that need to get stuff taken care of. Coaches are
looking at the transfer port that comes up here in
January trying to either retain.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Guys or fill in spots in their roster.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
It's like it almost makes the case like why would
you play an exhibition game if you're not playing for
national championship. Like, I understand that everyood loves football is
for the love of the game and all that, but
really it's like, what's the upside.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Anymore with some of these games?
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Some of them?
Speaker 6 (14:51):
Right, every team has their own story and every individual
coach and group of players has its own motivation. So
I think you're absolutely right. For some people, it doesn't
make sense. For others, they're hypermotivated to have the extra
practice and try to keep the team together and retain players,
or have one more game together and do all that
(15:15):
stuff that we say. I think it goes both ways,
and I absolutely agree with all of your points.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
I don't think Notre Dame wanted.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
To play in ESPN's charade this year after they felt
used by ESPN during the year, and I think that's
absolutely fine that they didn't want.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
To do it.
Speaker 6 (15:38):
And it's totally understandable for some people or some teams
and some individuals the Bowl game is meaningful. For others,
just depending on circumstance.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
It isn't.
Speaker 6 (15:52):
And I think that's fine. If I'm Notre Dame, I
wouldn't want to go have mayonnaise port all over my head,
or run around with the giant pop tart and sit
there and play while the announcers eat and chew in
the microphone. I totally get it. It totally makes sense
to me. The Bowl season has become something different. I
(16:15):
don't know if it's going to go away, or how
many will go away, or what will happen, but I
think you're absolutely right. It's just the part that bothers
me is that everybody just acts like the whole thing's
not orchestrated by ESPN and their pundits go on and
make all these points and get all excited and point counterpoint,
(16:38):
and of course we don't have any like It's the
most ridiculous thing in the world. It's worse than politics.
And that's part of the problem here. I think, if
you're going to have a committee, which it's not necessary,
but if you're going to have a committee, just have
football people. Are media people like Ivan masl Is on there.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
That's great.
Speaker 6 (16:58):
The guys worked everywhere and Sports Illustrated and all that.
Chris All, Mike Riley, Wesley Walls like those are hardcore
football people. But with all due respect to administrators, ads
are politicians, and politicians do what they flip on public opinion.
They have yeah, politics, politics, publicy, no backbone whatsoever. And
(17:25):
that's why you'll have Notre Dame ahead of Miami all
year and then suddenly the year ends and it flips
because of political pressure.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
And that's what you have.
Speaker 6 (17:37):
On this board or committee or whatever with a bunch
of ads. If you need to have an administrator, have
one ad be in charge of the whole thing and administrate.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
But to have a bunch of.
Speaker 6 (17:51):
Ads in this group makes the group political and politics suck.
If you're going to have a Maybee, you have hardcore
football people, and you'll probably have a less offensive vote
at the end of the year or less surprising vote
at the end of the year.
Speaker 7 (18:09):
Pat tros H, let me follow up on what Q
was saying. Not to step on one, you Jones, but
they want to get too far away from what Q
said the first time in track Yeah yeah, ten dollars yeah,
uh so, so let me ask you.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Let me ask you.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
This, Does this actually create a critical mass situation in
your estimation, like the fact that the premise behind why
Notre Dame doesn't want to do it, you know, doesn't
want to play this game and do the ring around
the Rosie dance with ESPN. Does this set a precedence
(18:45):
that could be dangerous to ESPN moving forward?
Speaker 6 (18:50):
Well, I don't think they're going to sell off their stuff.
I think what's likely to happen is they'll be a
bigger playoff. ESPN will sell off some of that to Fox,
just like they've sold some of it off.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
To TNT, and the charade will continue.
Speaker 6 (19:05):
I think the conference championship games are obviously in jeopardy
unless they become playoff elimination.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Games, which would make a little bit more sense.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
And then you have the big mass of bowl games.
Some of those are probably going to end up going
away as well. We need a commissioner or some kind
of czar of college football, but who's going to agree
on that. I mean, the two people that are in
charge are the people that run ESPEN and Fox, behind
(19:36):
the proxies of the big ten in the SEC. So
I think that we reach critical mass a few years ago,
probably LeVar, But there's nobody with enough power to get
everybody under the same roof and to fix the thing.
So if what you like about college football is the chaos,
which is basically what it's always been, then this is
(19:59):
a great.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Time to alive.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Has what college football's turned into because you're somebody who
grew up family history in college football, you love the
traditions all that come along with it. Has sort of,
and we talked about a little in the offseason, has
this mixed with, you know, the business side and the
discussions and the has it kind of I don't want
(20:23):
that tainted. For lack of a better term, I don't know.
I mean, it's all on the whole sport, not.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
Really, because if you look back on it, there really
is no good reason that we have and I'm sure
I've made this point before, but there's no good reason
to have these gigantic, multi billion dollar football entities within
our institutions of higher education. In so many ways, the
(20:50):
football team has become the identity of a lot of
these schools, and those two things they really don't jib
It's just something that happened in the early part of
the twentieth century. And I don't think it happened on purpose.
It happened because the sport was popular and there was
a demand for it, just like it would happen with
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any sport that got popular. The pile of money that
started being made by the athletic departments because of the
TV deals and all the endowment and the boosters and
all that stuff. It got so big that it kind
of towered behind the people that were in front of it,
(21:33):
and that money has to be distributed to people that
are playing.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
At this point, it just has to be.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
We could say when Mike was going to games with
my grandfather and my dad at the coliseum and watching
players play and listening to the fight song, that it
was a purer time.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
But what's so pure about it?
Speaker 6 (21:53):
You have a bunch of guys making a bunch of
money for the university that end up getting spit out
by the program when their career is over. We've all
seen what football can do for people in a positive way,
we've all seen what it can do for people in
a negative way, and we've all seen the ugly side
of the sport, however you want to define that. And
(22:14):
all of that stuff was going on when we thought
the game was more quote unquote pure. So I think
we've always been in the sewer and now it's just
a lot harder to maintain a team and grow a
team and to cultivate a culture, but that doesn't mean
we still don't have culture, and we still don't have games,
(22:35):
and we still don't have identities of coaches and programs.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
So I look back.
Speaker 6 (22:42):
I try to avoid talking about the good old days
because I don't think they exist. I think this has
been an evolving kind of It's been an evolving anomaly
for over one hundred years, ever since Redgrange made the
sport popular at Illinois. And we live in it now
(23:05):
and there's nobody. The NCAA is two week to take over.
The TV companies aren't going to get along and promote us.
I mean, we've had some uniformity. The SEC agreed to
play the extra conference game and all that, and they
closed one of the transfer portals. So you could say
that's progress, but it's a little bit like throwing a
deck chair off the Titanic with all the stuff that's
(23:27):
going on.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
It's a great visual.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
By the way, you also talked about the expansion and
Fox can get peace. I'm not so sure a little
bit because of how divisive things are between ESPN and Fox.
And they'll be do a TNT branding. I believe on
this year's playoff in some games. I mean, TNT is
really not involved much at all in college football.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
But I digress. I want to generally ask you this.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
You're done with call on games, like, yes, well obviously
you got the radio show going on, But is this
kind of a like what do you venture into this
time of year?
Speaker 6 (24:02):
Some other stuff you guys are doing. I assume family
traveling all that. I wish I could find a way
to make some more money, but well, the Pro Football
Foundation or the National NFF give me some money.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
To tell my story.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
Yeah, I need money, but this time of year I
just kind of delve back into family life and try
to make sure trying to make sure that everybody gets
their holiday wishes, and trying to support my wife. It's
not an easy time because you kind of strive and
strive for the year to end, as you guys know,
(24:41):
in the football season, and then the year ends and
you remember all of the problems that you had before
it began, and you kind of.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Have to go back to working on those. So that's
kind of where I'm at.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
Usually I go through a real state of elation when
the season is over, and then a feeling of loss
and desolation, which is what.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Is there any sort of optimism or positivity. Can you
can talk to us about.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
This time of day?
Speaker 2 (25:10):
No, I mean the Dodgers signed Edwin.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
Yeah, the trumpet guy, he plays a trumpet out of his.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Ass and then he comes. They do that, the Dodgers, Yeah,
they're gonna do it. Oh yeah.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
They used to have the Eric Gangne Welcome to the Jungle,
and he used to come out and blow people down.
And then they had California Love with Kenley Jansen not
as popular, and now they'll do the trumpet butt call.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Well, Petro's gonna be great always. Uh, He's appreciated.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
It's another guy that blew out his knee celebrating like
Martine great Gramatica.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Yeah, yeah in the the World Baseball Classic.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
I believe when he did it.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Yeah, WBC.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Petros Papa Vegas, the co host of the Petros and
Money Show, which you can hear on the Blowtorch A
five seventy l a Sports Fox college football analyst. He
can get him on X at the old p Petros.
We appreciate it and then oh there you go the
great Petros Papadas with us here on Fox Sports.
Speaker 9 (26:29):
Petro a best is I need more money?
Speaker 2 (26:35):
For that National NF money it was.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
It was also nice for levard a lot us ask
a couple of questions too in that interview.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Thought that was good every goal starman.
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Speaker 2 (30:08):
Yesterday? Did you beat it? Beast? What a good dude, man?
What an incredible athlete?
Speaker 7 (30:15):
I mean I was watching him walk and I was like,
it makes sense why he revived ray Lewis's career.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Like sheh, A guy that big that can move.
Speaker 7 (30:27):
That well, I mean, and he once again, dude was
yoked like that big strong yoked up, though not the
like bodybuilder yoked up like like like I'll run through
a wall type yoked up like some impressive dudes you'd
be seeing.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Man, I did I call that farmstrong? Like if you
need to move a cow, like he can move livestock.
Speaker 7 (30:50):
Bruh, like easily, Like no problem, move miss Lucy over there?
Who's miss Lucy? Oh that's that big old cow right
over there. Just pick it up and move it right
on up lips. Really yeah, that's a big bitch. And
he'll move he'll move it, He'll move it. And just
(31:11):
the nicest dude you could ever, super humble, super cool,
you know, he claims his tongue in heritage like straight
up bad ass tongueing bro like he don't be they
don't play around, you know. I gotta admit, like if
I'm if I'm being totally honest. I never used to
understand why so many, so many football players that were
(31:34):
from like that culture did that, like they punched their forearm,
you know, like after they make a play, they they go,
they do that punching of their form and stuff like that.
Then I realized, that's the island. You know what, what's
the name of the I don't know, I don't want
to mispronounce it, but the tongue in island like they
they make a tea like when they make a play,
(31:57):
like I'm tonguing like it's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Man.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Well, he was born Inglewood, so I don't know if
that's near the island you're talking about, but.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
I think it's family's Polynesian. He wasn't a not not
not a tongue.
Speaker 7 (32:10):
I'm certain that regardless of him being uh born in
Inglewood to spoil everything, he's not Inglewoodian. I'm just I'm
just letting you know, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
I'm just you know, I'm not well versed on the island.
I'm gonna tell you, and I'm gonna tell you in
a second.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
Tongua is the tongue you like how Jonas was sitting
on that too, just waiting for you to get done.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
So you go, Well, he was born in Inglewood. It
was very it was it was.
Speaker 7 (32:40):
You know, that was like a Smither's hard or swing
like it was flimsy.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Knox with the job.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Yeah, it was Knox with the job again.
Speaker 7 (32:49):
Well, he's Inglewoody and he's he's a Los Angeles guy.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
He was born in Inglewood.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Yeah, you might have a Hall of Fame case though, you.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Know NFL Hall of Fame on the Hall of Fame case. Yeah, certainly,
really good career.
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Speaker 2 (33:16):
You mad at me? Huh? You mad at me? Why
are you attacking me?
Speaker 10 (33:19):
Do we need to have a therapy session right now?
Speaker 7 (33:21):
Why is it Loreno? Why is he being so so aggressive?
You don't want right now.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
You know why I FaceTime you during the break. He
didn't answer, did you are that's true? Let me look yep,
great is my first time?
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Da does am? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (33:41):
You did?
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Didn't work?
Speaker 3 (33:44):
My bad.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
That's that's like an hour ago. We were like talking.
Speaker 7 (33:47):
That's not like just just now. It was like an
hour ago. And my my ringer is on kids soundin.
Can we talk about did you hear my phone ring?
Speaker 3 (33:56):
I did not?
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Yeah, I didn't hear it ring either.
Speaker 5 (33:58):
Can we talk about the the uh? Well, we're quit
talking about it. Like Matt Campbell's a coach of Penn State.
He kind of glossed over that.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Yeah he is.
Speaker 7 (34:06):
Yeah, and next, I love a hire. Yes, I like
him as a person. I got an opportunity to get
an exclusive with him, a first time sit down as
the new head coach. I thought he had a lot
of insightful things to say. Super humble, dude, down to earth,
well wired is what I would say. He's rooted in family,
(34:29):
he's he's rooted in his beliefs, and I think he
has the type of personality that will resonate with with
our community and I'm.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Very I'm very hopeful for it.
Speaker 7 (34:40):
I think not only is he a fine ball coach,
and you can look at his resume and see that
he's he's a very very fine ball coach, but you know,
we need.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Somebody that that has.
Speaker 7 (34:53):
That has a healthy level of separation from from what
things have been. Like it's time to really, like I
was telling Herban Meyer this yesterday, it's really time to
turn the page.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
There needs to be a.
Speaker 7 (35:10):
New energy in terms of it just doesn't need to
be every single thing we do, every single thing we
say is ultimately gauged and measured and thrown out there
as it's something from the old days. Like I think
I make the reference point of this hire gives us
(35:33):
the opportunity to run the race with our eyes on
the finish line. I've never seen anybody win a race
with looking behind them. So there's too much looking behind
that's been taking place, too much discussions of it, too
much of that being the overwhelming arcing conversation, and it
(35:57):
just needs to like at this point, just it's so tiring,
it's it's so much fatigue. Let's move on as a school,
as as a community, and as a football program. Let's
move on and let's be elite let's allow a coach
to be who he wants to be and be how
(36:18):
he needs to be to be a successful coach.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Let's let's allow it to be what it needs to be.
Speaker 7 (36:25):
And I feel like this is the proper time for it,
you know, And maybe as unfortunate for James Franklin that
it didn't kind of it didn't play out that way
for him. He was measured and judged off of the
running with your head backwards and I think a lot
of us were guilty of it. But I think that
this the wake up call of how things ended with
(36:46):
James Franklin and and then the harsh reality of oh yeah,
we could we could slip into mediocrity and be a
program that falls into the abyss and never comes back.
It could happen, and I think that that alarm sounded
(37:12):
and there's a sense of understanding that I think there's
a great feeling of relief when Campbell was named the
head coach because of the quality of person and coach
that he is. And I also think there's a level
of understanding and clarity on the fact that stop running away,
(37:33):
running people away from what we have going on by
coming across as we're so pro this and it has
to be said, and it has to be that, and
it has to be based upon what it was and
how it was and this is how it was done.
Like it's a rap for that, like wrap it up
(37:55):
and send it on its way. So yeah, I'm happy
for the hire and I think is going to be
a great hire.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Obviously.
Speaker 7 (38:02):
I think it is great that they retain Terry Smith
in the scenario, in the situation, I think he will
play a very critical part in making sure that the
bridging of the gap, so to speak, and some of
the things that need to take place for Matt Campbell
to get up to speak quickly. Terry Smith will have
some very very positive insight on that.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
He's a program builder.
Speaker 5 (38:25):
He's done a lot with a little and now he's
going to have a lot more talent, a lot more
money to go recruit and build a roster.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
So excited for what he's going to be at Penn State.
I think love that.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
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Speaker 4 (39:29):
There are some good things that happen, and there's some bad,
and then there's some downright ugly things.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
It's time for oh I just today. Time to find
out what's last incredible left over? See what had happened
was day? How is every get right?
Speaker 7 (39:57):
See what had happened, was gonna go ahead?
Speaker 10 (40:02):
Is still here?
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Damn say well done, well done, Lorraine, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 10 (40:10):
So let's let's try and get into this a little bit.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (40:15):
Yeah, we talked about Shador yesterday. Uh huh uh you
guys and the people were accusing Shore wearing a thong, yes,
a man thong, while Shiloh his brother reached out over
a FaceTime to clarify. Let's head over to the audio tape.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
Let's not.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Hello, bro, what's going on with you?
Speaker 7 (40:39):
Bro?
Speaker 2 (40:40):
You forgotta back in? You're right, so I get my
back tape. But that is crazy that it is look
like that.
Speaker 5 (40:46):
That's funny though, Nah man, I know you're not gonna
do nothing like that, right you just starting the brown.
Speaker 7 (40:56):
How do you feel playing a good game and then
everything gets shadowed by your thong? It did look like
a thong, man, And if they were taping it to
make it back feel better, whoever did that?
Speaker 5 (41:12):
You wrong as hell for making it look like a
a skin tone thong. That's what have you have you guys?
Ever worn a throng before? I'm not gonna ask.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
Like like for real, for real, Yeah, I'm asking the question.
Speaker 9 (41:29):
No, never, never, Jonas really never, like joking jokingly, like
about the mess with you around the crib, like chase
you with some cowboy boots, a cowboy hat on it,
and ye yeah I've done that.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
I have done that.
Speaker 7 (41:45):
Ham big, big old black man with some cowboy boots
of cowboys.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Bootless chaps, right, that'd be nice dying.
Speaker 7 (41:56):
Yeah, I didn't get into all of that, like that's
too deep, that that that's too.
Speaker 10 (42:00):
We're just service level around here. Have a good day, guys,
Happy Wednesday.
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