October 29, 2025 • 40 mins
FOX College Football Analyst Petros Papadakis joins Jonas and LaVar to discuss the Dodgers performance in the World Series, Brian Kelly's firing, and much more. The guys give their thoughts on the Saints making the change to Tyler Shough.
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here on the show. He is the Great Petros Papade
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because he is the co host of the Petros and
Money Show, which you can hear on the blowtorch AM
five seventy LA Sports Fox college football analysts get him
on X at the old p Petros. Good morning, Hello sir.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Good morning, Hello.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
How you doing.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I'm all right. I guess good.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
I guess that's cool.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Kind of tired of going to Dodger Stadium every day
with all the fanfare and hoopla and chaos because it's
a world series.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
But that's part of the job.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I was going to ask you, what was that scene
like yesterday? In comparison to get.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
A little more subdued.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
The media showed up later because well, everybody was up
so late and so many people. Even though LA gets
a pretty bad rap about showing up late and leaving early,
I don't think people really understand the urban sprawl that
we live in and in Los Angeles generally from outside
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the area, but.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Given that stigma.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
That LA has people, I think it was something like
eighty percent ninety percent retention of the people that stayed.
Everybody that I know, including the CEO of iHeartRadio, stayed
all the way until midnight. So the next day was
a little more subdued vibe, but still chaotic and still
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hard to get in and out.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
But it's great.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
I mean, the cla in the World Series to have
the World Series at Dodger Stadium and have it I
guess since we've had the Dodgers, which has been way
over a decade and a half since we've had the
Dodgers on the station, I think they've been to five
World Series. Wow, which is just crazy because you could
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work with or from a baseball organization for thirty years
and never even sniff it, maybe not even the playoffs.
And to see what the Dodgers have accomplished and to
kind of take it for granted I guess that these
games are going to happen all the time is pretty remarkable.
And then the fact that people are scared to leave
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because something historic might happen like it did with Otani
in the NLCS like it did with Yamamoto out in Toronto.
You just don't know what's going to happen, or an
eighteen inning game, which so rarely happens but has happened
twice now with the Dodgers in the World Series since
we've had them. So there's a lot to it, and
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it's historic and a lot of fun. But as you know,
I'm a curbudget. It's football season, so I get a
little over it. But they are, They're in it. They're
in a real fight with the Blue Jays, and we'll
see what happens tonight.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
You know, I hate to keep the conversation of baseball
going because I mean, I'm very limited in how I
feel about baseball, but I will say I do watch
the playoffs and I do watch the World Series. Do
you feel like this like like nature got it right
with this matchup? I mean to too, it didn't look like,
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you know, it doesn't look like anybody's going to just
run away with the series. I mean, and then you
get to his almost historic run in terms of innings
for the extra ending innings needed to win the game, Petros,
what like, to me, do you think that this is
like this is a good World Series, even though it
wasn't too major your markets, and obviously one not even
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being in America.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Well, I mean, the Dodgers are one of the blue
bloods of baseball and they represent almost the entire West Coast,
so people are going to gravitate toward that. And then
you have the Otani factor, which is gigantic, which is
sort of like the Taylor Swift factor last year for
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the NFL or the year before or whatever, where it's like,
you didn't think the NFL could get any more popular,
and then here's another twenty five million people around the
world because of Taylor Swift, which is sad but true.
And there's a reason they show her every time she's
at a game. It's because they know they have you.
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They're trying to get somebody else in your house to
be watching because they know you are going to keep
watching no matter how many times they show Taylor Swift.
It's a little different with Otani because he's a player.
But what O'tawni brought. I just didn't think the Dodgers
could become more popular, and then O'tawni came to the
Dodgers and it was like, Wow, they can become more popular,
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so the Dodgers being part of it is a huge
shot in the arm for Fox. Toronto, I guess is
a big market. I don't know much about it. I've
only been to the airport there and I know it's
a city full of ravines. And I used to watch
Degrassy Junior High a lot as a young man, but Toronto, Yes, Yeah,
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he played Jimmy Brooks.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
He was in a wheelchairs.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Aubrey he was shot in the Yeah, Degrassi. When I
was a kid, first it was called I think de
Grassy Street in the eighties. It was like a Canadian
public television show about young people and they really did
go there like glue sniffing and sex and everything. And
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then they had a de Grassy Junior High. Then they
had like de Grassy High, and then it went away
for ten years, and then it was Degrassi the Next Generation,
which had some of the people from the old shows
as adults and the people that were kids or their kids.
And Jimmy Brooks aka Aubrey Graham aka Drake was yeah
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on the show and one of the main characters, and
he did get shot and was in a wheelchair for
maybe three or four seasons. It went for like another
twelve or fifteen years. But sadly, I even have a
degrassy tattoo.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Oh really you don't? Yeah, yeah, I do, really yep really,
So basically it was like Saved by the Bell, but
with the potential of a slut appearing in an episode.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah, or death.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Okay, now where's the tattoo? I was about the ass?
Where's the location?
Speaker 4 (07:53):
If the tattoo is from the first line of the
song for Degrassi the Next Generation, can.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
I guess it?
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Go ahead, whatever it takes.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Correct, But I have three dots after the takes. Well
know there's gonna be another. I know I could make
it through you right?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Oh god? Was Drake's character Was Drake's character based Was
it based in that show? Was it based off Chris
from Boys in the Hood? It was in a wheelchair?
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Well he was a basketball player, but he wasn't that
big of a baller.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
You know, it's not like he was. You know, this
is us against Banning. You know, it's Crenchaw.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
High running back being recruited by USC A little different.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Lynnwood.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
The problem who you got? I'm gonna go to the NFL.
Who you got? As the l a team, and do
you the Raiders? Oh yeah, no.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
No, yeah, true, I live here.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
I lived here my whole life. Bring back to Collie
face to the face. They certainly are not the team right.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Now missiled up and raiderrets in nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yeah, let's go Matusac and Alzado and all those like
I like, I like those. You know Charlie Garner, Uh
huh oh no, he was shifty. Charlie Garner was a
beats on that field. Yeah, but what team do you have?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Like are you?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Is it the Chargers season? Is it the Rams? They
both care, They looked both per They both look pretty good.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
The Rams are better than the Chargers, I think, But
the Chargers had been beat up.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
I mean, I feel bad.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
We interviewed Rayshawn Slater and then like ten hours later
his leg fell off.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
So everybody blames us.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
But the Chargers, if they're around, they have healthy tackles.
Those guys are great Alt and Slater and obviously they're
well coached. I don't know what's going on with their defense.
Their defenses had trouble stopping people, and their defense was
supposed to be really special. And Derwin James and guys
like that. And Justin Herbert, of course there's always an
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argument about him and is he good in the fourth quarter?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
And it's Madison beer. Good for him.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
They were sitting next to Bieber at the UH at
the Dodger game two nights ago.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
She's a she's what good get for him? Good get
for Justin Bieber. No for Justin Herbert. He did well.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
She's the hail from the isle ye Lesbos.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
She did.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Yeah, but uh, yeah, we had this conversation the last time.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Oh yeah, we talked about the island. Yes we did.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Uh where it came from and everything, all of the.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Sapphic love Let's go. But I do not.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
I do not.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Really, I don't adhere to any NFL team. I'm not
and I was when I was a kid. I loved
the Chiefs because I loved Akoye and I loved Barry
Word and Steve de Bergh. Yeah, but I'm not. I'm
not a fan of any NFL team. I enjoy watching
NFL football from time to time, but there's a lot
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of football in my life on Saturdays.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
But I don't think LA has a team.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
I think the Rams are obviously excellent and really well
coached by a little, tiny guy that sounds like Tony
Robbins with John Gruden's voice.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Huh.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
And McVeigh does an absolute stellar job. I mean, there's
no doubt about it. And as annoying as Kelly Stafford is,
you have to give Matt Stafford his props. And you
have to give Puka Nakua, who we all knew was
a big recruit for USC and then he played at
Washington and then BYU. I saw him a bunch in
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college and talked to him. He's a great guy, great kid.
So you have to give the Rams credit. The Chargers
are obviously decent. I think that people thinking they were
a super Bowl team when the year started and they
beat the Chiefs and all that were maybe a little
bit premature because the Chiefs now look like the best
team in football. So and obviously the Colts are really good.
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They came down here and blew the Chargers' doors off.
They couldn't stop them. The Chargers just couldn't stop them defensively.
So I'm not really sure. But as far as what
people really gravitate for in LA adults, it's the Raiders.
But that being said, the Chargers and the Rams they're here.
They're not going anywhere. The NFL wants them here. The
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NFL's built a hub for themselves in Inglewood with so Fi.
They made that rich god build so Fi Kronky, and
they made him take the Chargers for one dollar a year.
So everybody got a sweetheart deal there because of Kronky,
and Kronky's deal was, hey, we let you move this
team out of Saint Louis. So they're not going anywhere.
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So the play for the Chargers and the Rams is
for our kids. They're not looking for guys like us
who are either transient. LA is a town of people
who are transplants, and they're not looking for us to
buy a Ram shirt or anything like that. They want
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our kids to be into the Ram or the Chargers.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
I would also, wouldn't you think that the Cowboys probably
have more of a fan base here than even the
Rams of the Chargers do. It's always felt like to
me that it was Raiders, Cowboys, and then Rams.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I think it's fair to argue that.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
I mean, when I was a kid in the eighties,
the Rams moved from La down to Orange County, and
that made them sort of like the Angels to a
lot of people. They used to be right in LA
and when they moved I think it changed a lot
of the dynamic the way people looked at him. But
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you're right, I mean you could. There's bars for any
There's Jacksonville Jaguar bars all over southern California that people
can go and watch a Jaguars game because we're an
area of transplants and a lot of people from out
of town.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Twenty years there was no NFL team heres. There's right
fans random teams all around the league in Southern California and.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
It's like London.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Yeah, it really is. Hey, you want to go to
Wembley or something.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
At least LA transplants know what they are looking at.
I mean it's a little different than your they'd be
chairing for every single thing that have is because they don't.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
I don't think. Yeah, I think they know everything that's
going on. I remember as a kid out here, like
just to think about the Cowboys because you mentioned, you know,
the Chargers and the Rams, the plays for the kids.
I remember as a kid the Cowboys were out in
Thousand Oaks. They had their training camp a Thousand Oaks
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and growing up, the youth football team was the Canao
Cowboys in the Cano Valley like that was. That was
just the tea it was.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
They were at Kalou and the Kowlou locker room had
the giant star on the carpet.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
I've been in there, so yeah, that's part of it,
especially where you're from in Ventura County. And then you
I have to think the Cowboys, you know, quote unquote
America's team, and the fact that they're constantly on television.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
That's totally understandable and believable.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
And I think that you'd have a pretty you'd have
a pretty good argument putting that Mark Twain in the
water and seeing that there are more Cowboys supporters than
maybe Rams or Chargers. It doesn't mean those teams aren't
making a buttload of money and that the stadium's not full.
It just might not be full of Ram fans or
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Charger fans. But either way, I think they're very comfortable with.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
The play that football is back in LA. But you're
absolutely right.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
La has been a melting pot for football fandom for
quite some time.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
We were talking about this earlier. Petro's pet excuse me,
Petros Papadega is with us here on Fox Sports Radio.
But we were talking about this earlier. Petros The on
November one, This upcoming Saturday, college athletes are going to
be allowed to gamble on professional sports. Paton Ardoozy was
very critical of it. Greg Sank, the SEC commissioner, said,
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what are we doing here? This doesn't make any sense,
And we were trying to figure out why, like why
this would even be allowed. Not that they couldn't already
do it if they found a buddy or somebody in
a frat, but what's your best guess is to why
now all of a sudden jammed in on November first,
on a Saturday. They're like, you know what, college athletes
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go ahead and bet on professional Yeah, listen, don't Yeah,
I don't know. It's weird.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah, the whole thing is weird.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
It's such a weird kind of diversion from the way
that I was quote unquote raised. I didn't go to
school to be a journalist. I'm certainly not a journalist now,
but I didn't go to school to be a broadcaster.
Let's just put it like that. I guess I did
to a certain degree because at USC I was interviewed
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a whole bunch and that ended up becoming my media career.
So I guess I went to school just by being
a football player. In that regard, LaVar probably did a
thousand times more than me because of the level of
player he was and how much attention he got, So
you could say that he had media training without having
media training, same with Brady.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
So I guess what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Is the first thing I did when I was in
the media the people that mentored me, is hammer into
my head that gambling and talking about gambling and being
associated with gambling or anything like that was radioactive, and
that the information I had from my coaches meetings and
all the different stuff I did was in no way
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to be disseminated in any other way than to be
entertaining and to not give anybody tips about it. Was
very staunch and a very very very strong line. And
of course Vegas was a whole different deal. You could
go to Vegas, but I know the NFL discouraged their
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players from going there for many many years, even though
they couldn't make them not go, and you couldn't even
bet UNLV in town and there was no pro sports
well Vegas now is that is not only a pro
sports town. But UNLV is an up and coming program
playing an allegiance, not even swallowed up by the big
stadium like you see UCLA or UCF was, or Tulane
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or Houston was. They've all except for UCLA, those schools
have moved to smaller campus stadiums and thrived.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
So you look at Vegas and it's just a totally
different deal.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Everybody's taking money from DraftKings, including me. You know, if
they ask us to read commercials.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
We do it.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
They pay us, or fan duel or whatever. The line
has become deeply, deeply blurred, So I understand why there's
more problems and why the touch of a button on
your phone can get so many young people who.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Are athletes in trouble.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
And I don't think the leagues are going to stop
take that's already found money, right the tens of millions
or hundreds of millions of dollars they're getting an advertising money.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I mean ESPN has a betting site, Fox does.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
So the line is really really blurry now, and I
guess it's going to get more blurry. Since we talked
about Europe. I mean, you could always in stadium bet
games in Europe, there's kiosks and things like that, and
I suppose that's the model we're headed towards, but it's
going to lead to a lot of a mucked up
situation when it comes to young people and athletes and
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devices and gambling and all that stuff. I think we
are just hitting the tip of the iceberg. I think
the integrity and the credibility of the NBA is going
to be very much in question as the FBI continues
to look into this stuff. And I mean, the Tim
Donnaheath thing probably should have tipped us off a long
time ago. But I agree that it's weird. I don't
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know other than the fact that everybody's taken big advertising
money from gambling companies, I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Else.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
It's not like there's a billion people playing college football.
You can you can prevent these guys from gambling, or
at least tell them they're not allowed to. And I
don't think it's going to take a dent out of
the companies.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
So you're right, I don't really understand why, other than
the fact that it's no longer taboo in our society.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Where does the before let you go obviously Brian Kelly
the latest casualty Lane Kiffins, Yeah, I thought.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Brandy was going to be here and we're gonna be
able to find out how big of an a hole
that guy.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
It's just like it does, it does feel like. And
Kirby Smart made the point where he said, look, man,
now you know it, all of a sudden, there's more voices,
there's more people with influence, and if you're not winning,
you know, a college football playoff, then all of a
sudden everything is deemed to be a failure. Is this
just are we now venturing into You're no longer going
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to have your Mike Gundy's your Kirk Farence is like,
this is going to be basically similar to the NFL,
to where it's going to be two, three years and
done if you don't produce your out in college football.
That's what it feels like.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
I can't speak to the Franklin situation.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Obviously LaVar is very close to that, and I didn't
I mean, I didn't know him personally. We dealt with
the team a few times and didn't feel warm and fuzzy.
Let's just put it like that, and that's okay, But
it seems like and when it comes to Brian Kelly,
if you rub people the wrong way and you come
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off like a bad guy, somebody's going to come and
buy you out the second that they are allowed to.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
It seems like that now.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
And building equity within a program, being a nicer guy,
being more of a mentor to young people, does that
help you. Probably a little bit. But if you're a
guy like Brian Kelly and you start to slip at
a place like LSU, and obviously that's very unique, but
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they're going to come and get you. And if you're
an a hole, they're probably going to come and get
you a few weeks before they normally would have.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
But you're absolutely right, Jonas.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
The dynamic of the college football playoff I believe changes
a lot of things to where if they know in
October or September that you're not going to make the
playoff and they have somebody willing to buy you out,
which seems like that, but that's not very different than
it's always been the buyout thing. It's I mean, there's
a reason Lane Kiffin got fired on a tarmac at
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usc Why would anybody do that other than the fact
that a booster made you do it. If you need
to fire him, fine, fire him the next day. He's
the USC football coach. He didn't break any laws, he's
not a criminal. He lost, Yeah you don't. Yeah, you
don't have to fire him on the tarmac and never
let him back in the building. They created this whole
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mythology of mismanagement just because a booster, and I know
who it was, told him to do it. And that's
not in the era of the twelve team playoff.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Or anything like that.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
That was just them losing a bad game at Arizona
State to Todd Graham and giving up fifty five points.
So it's always been the case where if a booster
gets pissed, and it's somebody who gives tens of millions
or one hundred million dollars to the school, then they're
going to probably do what the guy says or a lady.
And that's not changed that much. Maybe it's a little
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more prevalent, like Kirby Smart said, but I think it
has more to do with the playoff, And I also
think it has to do like it used to be
in recruiting, you'd have to think like three years in
advance about your offensive line. You'd have to think about
make sure your defensive backfield was shored up with he
school kids and people like that. Maybe some JC guys
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was the route that you wanted to take if you
needed a quick fix, and that's not the case anymore.
With the transfer portal, you can shore up your whole
team if you do it right and in one off season.
And what guys like Kirk Signetti have done is the
unthinkable at a place like Indiana that they could just
all of a sudden as a football mausoleum, stand up
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and become one of the best teams in the country,
if not the best, and dominate people and destroy lesser
teams and show no mercy in Indiana. If Signetty can
do that, then what kind of excuse does Lincoln Riley
or guy like that have who's been somewhere for four
or five years and is still mediocre. So people see that,
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and with the portal and what you can do, and
they'll pull the trigger on you faster. So there are reasons,
and I feel bad for assistant coaches and families. I
don't feel bad for these head coaches, correct get I agree, Yeah,
they make one hundred million dollars and then everybody feels
bad for him. I don't care. I care about the
assistants and their families. Of course, that's the life they've chosen, that,
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not the families, but the assistants, And I do care.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
That's a terrible part of this.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
But other than that, I'm not going to sit here
and play a violin for people like Brian Kelly.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Forget it. Who cares? Uh?
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Petros popinak is. He is the co host of the
Petros and Money Show. What you can hear on at
the blowtorch Am five to seventy LA Sports Fox college
football analysts. By the way, which game you got this weekend? Petros,
I am not.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
Good enough to work this weekend. Oh there's my Degrassi song.
But next weekend I have a What I'm having because
of the baseball is a lot of weeks off and
then double up, double up, week off, double up, double up.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
You know that's the way the year is going to be.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
So next week I have I'm going to Orlando, where
I've never been, to see UCF play Houston, one of
the best teams in the Big twelve. Houston's a lot
of fun under Willie Fritz. And then I'll come home
do a un l V Colorado State. So I got
that going for me, and then uh yeah, and then
the Dodgers, you know, we have all that, and then
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not only that, but my uh my colleagues are going
to take over at six o'clock.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
That's still going scam. Yeah, Sax and Kate's.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
In the AM, the Great Tim Kats.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
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App on the Clippers feed you can hear it. Other
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This here song sounds horrible though.
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Speaker 3 (28:20):
We do have a team in the NFL that thinks
they've identified the issue. All right, So if you were
to if I just asked you, off the top of
your head, like top three worst teams in the league,
Like if you just had to pick like worst teams
in the league, teams that.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Are just dreadful. Dolphins, okay, the Browns Okay, the Raiders, Okay,
those will be the three that come to mind immediately
off the top of my head. Could I the Titans?
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Yeah? Could I offer up another sure? The New Orleans Saints? Yes? Yeah, yeah,
Well maybe things are about to change because the Saints
have announced Tyler Shuck is now their starting quarterback there
all right, so he is going to be the starter.
Spencer Ratler heads to the bench. Ratler actually wasn't playing
(29:11):
that bad, except the past two games popped up and
it has not gone well. He's all of a sudden
started turning the football over. So Tyler Shuck is going
to be the starter in New Orleans. And I was
just thinking about this. New Orleans has got I mean,
their salary cap situation is not great because they went
for it a bunch, and they paid a bunch of
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really good players who are now veterans and older on
that team that were part of the last time the
Saints were trying to make legitimate runs to compete for championships.
And if you're one of those veterans on the Saints
and you realize we're bad, it's clear that we're going
(29:53):
to be taking another quarterback next year and now we're
just going to start Tyler Shuck approaching the middle of
the season and with another half of the season to go.
What is that life like if you're one of those
veteran players, because you realize you've got no shot, You're
getting a year older, and it's clear the organization is
heading in a direction that is probably not ideal to you.
(30:15):
If you're trying to chase championships, you just got to
control the controllables.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
That's what I think it comes down to. I mean,
these guys, when you look at their roster, they should
not be horrible. I mean, from Alvin Kamara in your
backfield to Chris Olave and Rashidi Shahid, Brandon Crooks, Cooks,
excuse me, Juwan Johnson. People may not know much about him.
(30:43):
He's a tight end, but he used to be a receiver.
Like he has receiver skills playing at the tight ends position,
and he's pretty you know, he's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
They have a decent offensive line.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
I mean not a great offensive line obviously, but decent.
And and then when you look at him on the
defensive side of the ball, I mean, obviously, Cameron Cameron
Jordan is aging. You know, Chase Young has never been
the same since his his injury in Washington, never like
(31:20):
never even approached it. Yeah, he's never been the same.
But Mario said.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Mario Davis as well too.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
I just I think that it's a they have decent players,
but do they have like a bona fide dog star
on that defense? Like get I get that Cameron Jordan
is has historically been really really good, but has his
(31:49):
time passed well?
Speaker 3 (31:50):
I just want to hear. And maybe this is because
I didn't play in the NFL, so maybe I'm looking
at this from not a realistic standpoint, but I look
at it from a practical standpoint, just to get my
mind around the idea of this was a team that
years ago you looked at and go, well, one of
the more successful organizations in the league, well built, good roster.
(32:15):
If I was one of those veterans, I literally would
just come to work every day and be like check
still clears. That's like, you know what this is what
it is. I'm just going to enjoy the money, realize,
start booking vacations for right after the season, get my
family out of here, and just try and get through
this season in one piece. Because other than that, what
do you got? I mean, like, we're like, what is
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really the hope for some of these teams in the league,
Like what do you have to look forward to? We
were there in New Orleans. There was no buzz for
that team. No, there was no buying. It's like, well,
it's a Super Bowl. Everyone was focused on the other teams.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Stop the Mario is a good linebacker, man, Yeah, it
really is. And I mean for him to have the
production that he has, it's pretty phenomenal. He's at seventy
two tackles. I mean, that's pretty phenomenal. Chris Olave is
having a pretty decent season. It's not not blowing the
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doors off. I don't think it's a Pro Bowl season,
but nonetheless, he's having a good year. Alvin Kamara is horrible.
Like his numbers. He's at three hundred, three hundred and
sixty three yards on the season.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
And he's already come out publicly and we talked about
it and said yeah. I mean, if they try and
trade me, I'm not showing up. I'll just go drink
Pinia Clatda somewhere, like I'm not. I just I wonder
if that's sort of the mentality of guys there that
are like, listen, we're not good. I'm a veteran, I've
already been paid, is what it is?
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Like they don't seem like a team that knows how
to win anymore, and they're not a competitive team, and
that has to be the first thing that you're trying
to figure out if you're need to keep your job
as a coach, Like what is what is the problem?
Speaker 3 (34:06):
So basically you're just trying to sift through who do
we want to keep around for next year? So you're
trying including coaches if i'm if I'm New Orleans, including coaches.
I mean Kellen Moore just got there.
Speaker 9 (34:21):
Oh what he just he just does that matter anymore?
I would say there, I could understand because I think
that there was the expectation going into the year, Like
if you asked anybody who's going to be the worst
team in the league this year, majority of people would
have said New Orleans. And that's why the arch manning
(34:42):
stuff was out there because oh, you know, it's meant
to be.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
They were saying they were tanking to get arts right,
which is very different. That's very different if you're if
you are if you are intentionally not playing well, which
there's no way you can could convinced me of that,
but if you can convince me that you're working to
be a one in seventeen, I mean, what's the difference
(35:08):
between him or Glenn In New York?
Speaker 2 (35:11):
What's the difference?
Speaker 3 (35:13):
I would say New Orleans, there weren't any expectations. They've
actually performed better in certain spots, and I think some
people thought they would like Spencer Rattler up until the
last two games, was probably better than a lot of
people thought he was going to be with the Jets.
There was some feeling that Aaron Glenn was going to
come in and turn the organization around on the rosters.
But why why, I don't know. People believe a lot.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
I just think that's strange because they had the same
exact record.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
I mean, people read the horoscope to find out other
days going to be like, you know, people do theird stuff.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
I think you have a talented offense in New Orleans,
and you should be able to generate offense in New Orleans.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Now.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
I don't know how debilitating and crippling it was that
card he didn't want to come back and play. I
don't know that how heavy it is a burden it
was for Ratler to come in and try to win
as the starter. This is what I know. I expected
them to be better than a one win. I expected
(36:17):
them to be better than one win I did, and
for them to be where they're at, I think if
I'm New Orleans, I got to take a good, long,
hard look at what we got going on that went
me the first time in this new way of handling
things at the you know, even now at the college level,
(36:38):
college level, professional level, I think the stakes have become
so high for some reason. I don't really know what
the origin of it is, this whole win now or
get the hell out mentality. I don't know why that is,
but I will say it is very prominent and imprevalent.
And now you know, guys can be let go after
(37:01):
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Over the sorry Lari Ray, what do we got? Okay?
Speaker 5 (38:22):
So I was digging through my fridge today and I
saw the coolest thing. I thought it was Ai, but
it's actually real. Saudi Arabia has unveiled its plans to
construct the world's first sky stadium, floating three hundred and
fifty meters aka and fifty feet above the ground.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
I saw that. That's real. Yes, it's real.
Speaker 5 (38:44):
They're trying to do it for their Olympics.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
We're trying to do like like where they did with
that like tennis court.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
How how was like all the way up in the sky.
You remember that tennis court?
Speaker 1 (38:54):
You could go play on that literally like overseas, it's
like in the clouds. No, well, they're proposing. I thought
it was A I ain't even pay it no mind.
I'mula still think it's Ai until my mom would tell
me it's not.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
So how was I hanging out that?
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Man?
Speaker 5 (39:09):
I'm going to afford it to you right now, Jonas,
so you can get the idea of what they're looking for.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
But there's like on like stilts. No, it's like it's
a big building. It's like a skyscraper. It's just floats
on the top of a sky. Okay, okay, okay, okay,
all right, yeah, get built onto the top. I know
you're saying it was like floating in the air, and
I'm thinking, like, how's it going to be.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
It's supposed to be able to hold eighty thousand people,
and I just want to point out, how do you
expect to get eighty thousand people down that building? Imagine
the traffic getting out of Dodgers Stadium. You're trying to
get everyone out of a skystrick scraper.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Please. That's pretty sweet though. There's also no chance I
would go.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
To a game.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
I would never go to a game. No chance I
never go up there. Yeah, I don't trust never.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
It's high enough going up to the upper decks in
a regular stadium on the ground, and.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
They try and fit so many seats into a lot
of places. Is that like it's steep like in some
of these.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
I just don't want to be that one statistic when
human error takes place. I just don't like like cats
is jumping around, they screaming Like.
Speaker 5 (40:14):
I did see this fun comment asking about the air
quality for the players up there, like is the air center.
Speaker 9 (40:19):
Yeah, it's got to be an issue.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
That's the first thing I thought. Those are true nosebleed seats.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Well, I mean you think about it, if a guy
has like the sickle cell like trait like that lack
of oxygen, well that's why most guys deal with that
when they go play in Manhaw Stadium, because.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Yeah, absolutely, that's real.
Speaker 5 (40:44):
That's an interesting thing to think about.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
The oxygen would be horrible up there, I would assume,
unless they go on pump oxygen into the stadium.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
I mean that'd be sweet too. They got that money
to do it. Bye.
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on X at the old p Petros. Good morning, Hello sir.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Good morning, Hello.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
How you doing.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I'm all right. I guess good.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
I guess that's cool.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Kind of tired of going to Dodger Stadium every day
with all the fanfare and hoopla and chaos because it's
a world series.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
But that's part of the job.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I was going to ask you, what was that scene
like yesterday? In comparison to get.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
A little more subdued.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
The media showed up later because well, everybody was up
so late and so many people. Even though LA gets
a pretty bad rap about showing up late and leaving early,
I don't think people really understand the urban sprawl that
we live in and in Los Angeles generally from outside
(02:31):
the area, but.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Given that stigma.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
That LA has people, I think it was something like
eighty percent ninety percent retention of the people that stayed.
Everybody that I know, including the CEO of iHeartRadio, stayed
all the way until midnight. So the next day was
a little more subdued vibe, but still chaotic and still
(02:58):
hard to get in and out.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
But it's great.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
I mean, the cla in the World Series to have
the World Series at Dodger Stadium and have it I
guess since we've had the Dodgers, which has been way
over a decade and a half since we've had the
Dodgers on the station, I think they've been to five
World Series. Wow, which is just crazy because you could
(03:21):
work with or from a baseball organization for thirty years
and never even sniff it, maybe not even the playoffs.
And to see what the Dodgers have accomplished and to
kind of take it for granted I guess that these
games are going to happen all the time is pretty remarkable.
And then the fact that people are scared to leave
(03:44):
because something historic might happen like it did with Otani
in the NLCS like it did with Yamamoto out in Toronto.
You just don't know what's going to happen, or an
eighteen inning game, which so rarely happens but has happened
twice now with the Dodgers in the World Series since
we've had them. So there's a lot to it, and
(04:05):
it's historic and a lot of fun. But as you know,
I'm a curbudget. It's football season, so I get a
little over it. But they are, They're in it. They're
in a real fight with the Blue Jays, and we'll
see what happens tonight.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
You know, I hate to keep the conversation of baseball
going because I mean, I'm very limited in how I
feel about baseball, but I will say I do watch
the playoffs and I do watch the World Series. Do
you feel like this like like nature got it right
with this matchup? I mean to too, it didn't look like,
(04:40):
you know, it doesn't look like anybody's going to just
run away with the series. I mean, and then you
get to his almost historic run in terms of innings
for the extra ending innings needed to win the game, Petros,
what like, to me, do you think that this is
like this is a good World Series, even though it
wasn't too major your markets, and obviously one not even
(05:02):
being in America.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Well, I mean, the Dodgers are one of the blue
bloods of baseball and they represent almost the entire West Coast,
so people are going to gravitate toward that. And then
you have the Otani factor, which is gigantic, which is
sort of like the Taylor Swift factor last year for
(05:25):
the NFL or the year before or whatever, where it's like,
you didn't think the NFL could get any more popular,
and then here's another twenty five million people around the
world because of Taylor Swift, which is sad but true.
And there's a reason they show her every time she's
at a game. It's because they know they have you.
(05:47):
They're trying to get somebody else in your house to
be watching because they know you are going to keep
watching no matter how many times they show Taylor Swift.
It's a little different with Otani because he's a player.
But what O'tawni brought. I just didn't think the Dodgers
could become more popular, and then O'tawni came to the
Dodgers and it was like, Wow, they can become more popular,
(06:11):
so the Dodgers being part of it is a huge
shot in the arm for Fox. Toronto, I guess is
a big market. I don't know much about it. I've
only been to the airport there and I know it's
a city full of ravines. And I used to watch
Degrassy Junior High a lot as a young man, but Toronto, Yes, Yeah,
(06:32):
he played Jimmy Brooks.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
He was in a wheelchairs.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Aubrey he was shot in the Yeah, Degrassi. When I
was a kid, first it was called I think de
Grassy Street in the eighties. It was like a Canadian
public television show about young people and they really did
go there like glue sniffing and sex and everything. And
(06:56):
then they had a de Grassy Junior High. Then they
had like de Grassy High, and then it went away
for ten years, and then it was Degrassi the Next Generation,
which had some of the people from the old shows
as adults and the people that were kids or their kids.
And Jimmy Brooks aka Aubrey Graham aka Drake was yeah
(07:23):
on the show and one of the main characters, and
he did get shot and was in a wheelchair for
maybe three or four seasons. It went for like another
twelve or fifteen years. But sadly, I even have a
degrassy tattoo.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Oh really you don't? Yeah, yeah, I do, really yep really,
So basically it was like Saved by the Bell, but
with the potential of a slut appearing in an episode.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah, or death.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Okay, now where's the tattoo? I was about the ass?
Where's the location?
Speaker 4 (07:53):
If the tattoo is from the first line of the
song for Degrassi the Next Generation, can.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
I guess it?
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Go ahead, whatever it takes.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Correct, But I have three dots after the takes. Well
know there's gonna be another. I know I could make
it through you right?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Oh god? Was Drake's character Was Drake's character based Was
it based in that show? Was it based off Chris
from Boys in the Hood? It was in a wheelchair?
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Well he was a basketball player, but he wasn't that
big of a baller.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
You know, it's not like he was. You know, this
is us against Banning. You know, it's Crenchaw.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
High running back being recruited by USC A little different.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Lynnwood.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
The problem who you got? I'm gonna go to the NFL.
Who you got? As the l a team, and do
you the Raiders? Oh yeah, no.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
No, yeah, true, I live here.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
I lived here my whole life. Bring back to Collie
face to the face. They certainly are not the team right.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Now missiled up and raiderrets in nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yeah, let's go Matusac and Alzado and all those like
I like, I like those. You know Charlie Garner, Uh
huh oh no, he was shifty. Charlie Garner was a
beats on that field. Yeah, but what team do you have?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Like are you?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Is it the Chargers season? Is it the Rams? They
both care, They looked both per They both look pretty good.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
The Rams are better than the Chargers, I think, But
the Chargers had been beat up.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
I mean, I feel bad.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
We interviewed Rayshawn Slater and then like ten hours later
his leg fell off.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
So everybody blames us.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
But the Chargers, if they're around, they have healthy tackles.
Those guys are great Alt and Slater and obviously they're
well coached. I don't know what's going on with their defense.
Their defenses had trouble stopping people, and their defense was
supposed to be really special. And Derwin James and guys
like that. And Justin Herbert, of course there's always an
(10:00):
argument about him and is he good in the fourth quarter?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
And it's Madison beer. Good for him.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
They were sitting next to Bieber at the UH at
the Dodger game two nights ago.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
She's a she's what good get for him? Good get
for Justin Bieber. No for Justin Herbert. He did well.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
She's the hail from the isle ye Lesbos.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
She did.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Yeah, but uh, yeah, we had this conversation the last time.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Oh yeah, we talked about the island. Yes we did.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Uh where it came from and everything, all of the.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Sapphic love Let's go. But I do not.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
I do not.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Really, I don't adhere to any NFL team. I'm not
and I was when I was a kid. I loved
the Chiefs because I loved Akoye and I loved Barry
Word and Steve de Bergh. Yeah, but I'm not. I'm
not a fan of any NFL team. I enjoy watching
NFL football from time to time, but there's a lot
(11:02):
of football in my life on Saturdays.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
But I don't think LA has a team.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
I think the Rams are obviously excellent and really well
coached by a little, tiny guy that sounds like Tony
Robbins with John Gruden's voice.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Huh.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
And McVeigh does an absolute stellar job. I mean, there's
no doubt about it. And as annoying as Kelly Stafford is,
you have to give Matt Stafford his props. And you
have to give Puka Nakua, who we all knew was
a big recruit for USC and then he played at
Washington and then BYU. I saw him a bunch in
(11:38):
college and talked to him. He's a great guy, great kid.
So you have to give the Rams credit. The Chargers
are obviously decent. I think that people thinking they were
a super Bowl team when the year started and they
beat the Chiefs and all that were maybe a little
bit premature because the Chiefs now look like the best
team in football. So and obviously the Colts are really good.
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They came down here and blew the Chargers' doors off.
They couldn't stop them. The Chargers just couldn't stop them defensively.
So I'm not really sure. But as far as what
people really gravitate for in LA adults, it's the Raiders.
But that being said, the Chargers and the Rams they're here.
They're not going anywhere. The NFL wants them here. The
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NFL's built a hub for themselves in Inglewood with so Fi.
They made that rich god build so Fi Kronky, and
they made him take the Chargers for one dollar a year.
So everybody got a sweetheart deal there because of Kronky,
and Kronky's deal was, hey, we let you move this
team out of Saint Louis. So they're not going anywhere.
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So the play for the Chargers and the Rams is
for our kids. They're not looking for guys like us
who are either transient. LA is a town of people
who are transplants, and they're not looking for us to
buy a Ram shirt or anything like that. They want
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our kids to be into the Ram or the Chargers.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
I would also, wouldn't you think that the Cowboys probably
have more of a fan base here than even the
Rams of the Chargers do. It's always felt like to
me that it was Raiders, Cowboys, and then Rams.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I think it's fair to argue that.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
I mean, when I was a kid in the eighties,
the Rams moved from La down to Orange County, and
that made them sort of like the Angels to a
lot of people. They used to be right in LA
and when they moved I think it changed a lot
of the dynamic the way people looked at him. But
(13:42):
you're right, I mean you could. There's bars for any
There's Jacksonville Jaguar bars all over southern California that people
can go and watch a Jaguars game because we're an
area of transplants and a lot of people from out
of town.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Twenty years there was no NFL team heres. There's right
fans random teams all around the league in Southern California and.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
It's like London.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Yeah, it really is. Hey, you want to go to
Wembley or something.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
At least LA transplants know what they are looking at.
I mean it's a little different than your they'd be
chairing for every single thing that have is because they don't.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
I don't think. Yeah, I think they know everything that's
going on. I remember as a kid out here, like
just to think about the Cowboys because you mentioned, you know,
the Chargers and the Rams, the plays for the kids.
I remember as a kid the Cowboys were out in
Thousand Oaks. They had their training camp a Thousand Oaks
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and growing up, the youth football team was the Canao
Cowboys in the Cano Valley like that was. That was
just the tea it was.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
They were at Kalou and the Kowlou locker room had
the giant star on the carpet.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
I've been in there, so yeah, that's part of it,
especially where you're from in Ventura County. And then you
I have to think the Cowboys, you know, quote unquote
America's team, and the fact that they're constantly on television.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
That's totally understandable and believable.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
And I think that you'd have a pretty you'd have
a pretty good argument putting that Mark Twain in the
water and seeing that there are more Cowboys supporters than
maybe Rams or Chargers. It doesn't mean those teams aren't
making a buttload of money and that the stadium's not full.
It just might not be full of Ram fans or
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Charger fans. But either way, I think they're very comfortable with.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
The play that football is back in LA. But you're
absolutely right.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
La has been a melting pot for football fandom for
quite some time.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
We were talking about this earlier. Petro's pet excuse me,
Petros Papadega is with us here on Fox Sports Radio.
But we were talking about this earlier. Petros The on
November one, This upcoming Saturday, college athletes are going to
be allowed to gamble on professional sports. Paton Ardoozy was
very critical of it. Greg Sank, the SEC commissioner, said,
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what are we doing here? This doesn't make any sense,
And we were trying to figure out why, like why
this would even be allowed. Not that they couldn't already
do it if they found a buddy or somebody in
a frat, but what's your best guess is to why
now all of a sudden jammed in on November first,
on a Saturday. They're like, you know what, college athletes
(16:29):
go ahead and bet on professional Yeah, listen, don't Yeah,
I don't know. It's weird.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah, the whole thing is weird.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
It's such a weird kind of diversion from the way
that I was quote unquote raised. I didn't go to
school to be a journalist. I'm certainly not a journalist now,
but I didn't go to school to be a broadcaster.
Let's just put it like that. I guess I did
to a certain degree because at USC I was interviewed
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a whole bunch and that ended up becoming my media career.
So I guess I went to school just by being
a football player. In that regard, LaVar probably did a
thousand times more than me because of the level of
player he was and how much attention he got, So
you could say that he had media training without having
media training, same with Brady.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
So I guess what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Is the first thing I did when I was in
the media the people that mentored me, is hammer into
my head that gambling and talking about gambling and being
associated with gambling or anything like that was radioactive, and
that the information I had from my coaches meetings and
all the different stuff I did was in no way
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to be disseminated in any other way than to be
entertaining and to not give anybody tips about it. Was
very staunch and a very very very strong line. And
of course Vegas was a whole different deal. You could
go to Vegas, but I know the NFL discouraged their
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players from going there for many many years, even though
they couldn't make them not go, and you couldn't even
bet UNLV in town and there was no pro sports
well Vegas now is that is not only a pro
sports town. But UNLV is an up and coming program
playing an allegiance, not even swallowed up by the big
stadium like you see UCLA or UCF was, or Tulane
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or Houston was. They've all except for UCLA, those schools
have moved to smaller campus stadiums and thrived.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
So you look at Vegas and it's just a totally
different deal.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Everybody's taking money from DraftKings, including me. You know, if
they ask us to read commercials.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
We do it.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
They pay us, or fan duel or whatever. The line
has become deeply, deeply blurred, So I understand why there's
more problems and why the touch of a button on
your phone can get so many young people who.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Are athletes in trouble.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
And I don't think the leagues are going to stop
take that's already found money, right the tens of millions
or hundreds of millions of dollars they're getting an advertising money.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I mean ESPN has a betting site, Fox does.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
So the line is really really blurry now, and I
guess it's going to get more blurry. Since we talked
about Europe. I mean, you could always in stadium bet
games in Europe, there's kiosks and things like that, and
I suppose that's the model we're headed towards, but it's
going to lead to a lot of a mucked up
situation when it comes to young people and athletes and
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devices and gambling and all that stuff. I think we
are just hitting the tip of the iceberg. I think
the integrity and the credibility of the NBA is going
to be very much in question as the FBI continues
to look into this stuff. And I mean, the Tim
Donnaheath thing probably should have tipped us off a long
time ago. But I agree that it's weird. I don't
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know other than the fact that everybody's taken big advertising
money from gambling companies, I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Else.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
It's not like there's a billion people playing college football.
You can you can prevent these guys from gambling, or
at least tell them they're not allowed to. And I
don't think it's going to take a dent out of
the companies.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
So you're right, I don't really understand why, other than
the fact that it's no longer taboo in our society.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Where does the before let you go obviously Brian Kelly
the latest casualty Lane Kiffins, Yeah, I thought.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Brandy was going to be here and we're gonna be
able to find out how big of an a hole
that guy.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
It's just like it does, it does feel like. And
Kirby Smart made the point where he said, look, man,
now you know it, all of a sudden, there's more voices,
there's more people with influence, and if you're not winning,
you know, a college football playoff, then all of a
sudden everything is deemed to be a failure. Is this
just are we now venturing into You're no longer going
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to have your Mike Gundy's your Kirk Farence is like,
this is going to be basically similar to the NFL,
to where it's going to be two, three years and
done if you don't produce your out in college football.
That's what it feels like.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
I can't speak to the Franklin situation.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Obviously LaVar is very close to that, and I didn't
I mean, I didn't know him personally. We dealt with
the team a few times and didn't feel warm and fuzzy.
Let's just put it like that, and that's okay, But
it seems like and when it comes to Brian Kelly,
if you rub people the wrong way and you come
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off like a bad guy, somebody's going to come and
buy you out the second that they are allowed to.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
It seems like that now.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
And building equity within a program, being a nicer guy,
being more of a mentor to young people, does that
help you. Probably a little bit. But if you're a
guy like Brian Kelly and you start to slip at
a place like LSU, and obviously that's very unique, but
(22:12):
they're going to come and get you. And if you're
an a hole, they're probably going to come and get
you a few weeks before they normally would have.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
But you're absolutely right, Jonas.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
The dynamic of the college football playoff I believe changes
a lot of things to where if they know in
October or September that you're not going to make the
playoff and they have somebody willing to buy you out,
which seems like that, but that's not very different than
it's always been the buyout thing. It's I mean, there's
a reason Lane Kiffin got fired on a tarmac at
(22:44):
usc Why would anybody do that other than the fact
that a booster made you do it. If you need
to fire him, fine, fire him the next day. He's
the USC football coach. He didn't break any laws, he's
not a criminal. He lost, Yeah you don't. Yeah, you
don't have to fire him on the tarmac and never
let him back in the building. They created this whole
(23:04):
mythology of mismanagement just because a booster, and I know
who it was, told him to do it. And that's
not in the era of the twelve team playoff.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Or anything like that.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
That was just them losing a bad game at Arizona
State to Todd Graham and giving up fifty five points.
So it's always been the case where if a booster
gets pissed, and it's somebody who gives tens of millions
or one hundred million dollars to the school, then they're
going to probably do what the guy says or a lady.
And that's not changed that much. Maybe it's a little
(23:40):
more prevalent, like Kirby Smart said, but I think it
has more to do with the playoff, And I also
think it has to do like it used to be
in recruiting, you'd have to think like three years in
advance about your offensive line. You'd have to think about
make sure your defensive backfield was shored up with he
school kids and people like that. Maybe some JC guys
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was the route that you wanted to take if you
needed a quick fix, and that's not the case anymore.
With the transfer portal, you can shore up your whole
team if you do it right and in one off season.
And what guys like Kirk Signetti have done is the
unthinkable at a place like Indiana that they could just
all of a sudden as a football mausoleum, stand up
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and become one of the best teams in the country,
if not the best, and dominate people and destroy lesser
teams and show no mercy in Indiana. If Signetty can
do that, then what kind of excuse does Lincoln Riley
or guy like that have who's been somewhere for four
or five years and is still mediocre. So people see that,
(24:47):
and with the portal and what you can do, and
they'll pull the trigger on you faster. So there are reasons,
and I feel bad for assistant coaches and families. I
don't feel bad for these head coaches, correct get I agree, Yeah,
they make one hundred million dollars and then everybody feels
bad for him. I don't care. I care about the
assistants and their families. Of course, that's the life they've chosen, that,
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not the families, but the assistants, And I do care.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
That's a terrible part of this.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
But other than that, I'm not going to sit here
and play a violin for people like Brian Kelly.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Forget it. Who cares? Uh?
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Petros popinak is. He is the co host of the
Petros and Money Show. What you can hear on at
the blowtorch Am five to seventy LA Sports Fox college
football analysts. By the way, which game you got this weekend? Petros,
I am not.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
Good enough to work this weekend. Oh there's my Degrassi song.
But next weekend I have a What I'm having because
of the baseball is a lot of weeks off and
then double up, double up, week off, double up, double up.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
You know that's the way the year is going to be.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
So next week I have I'm going to Orlando, where
I've never been, to see UCF play Houston, one of
the best teams in the Big twelve. Houston's a lot
of fun under Willie Fritz. And then I'll come home
do a un l V Colorado State. So I got
that going for me, and then uh yeah, and then
the Dodgers, you know, we have all that, and then
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not only that, but my uh my colleagues are going
to take over at six o'clock.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
That's still going scam. Yeah, Sax and Kate's.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
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Speaker 4 (26:21):
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Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yeah, very exciting morning programming right now, Papa Dekas.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Yeah, but it's not just solely Dodger program No, it's
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Speaker 2 (26:35):
So you guys aren't just folks.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
But if people want the Dodgers, pure Dodger focused, they
can listen seventy or there is there is a workaround
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Speaker 2 (26:49):
App on the Clippers feed you can hear it. Other
than that, it's Dan Patrick, all.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Right, well Patrick, Jaguars, we will love we will do
it again. Next week is the Great Patricks Papadakis ri
This here song sounds horrible though.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
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Speaker 3 (28:20):
We do have a team in the NFL that thinks
they've identified the issue. All right, So if you were
to if I just asked you, off the top of
your head, like top three worst teams in the league,
Like if you just had to pick like worst teams
in the league, teams that.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Are just dreadful. Dolphins, okay, the Browns Okay, the Raiders, Okay,
those will be the three that come to mind immediately
off the top of my head. Could I the Titans?
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Yeah? Could I offer up another sure? The New Orleans Saints? Yes? Yeah, yeah,
Well maybe things are about to change because the Saints
have announced Tyler Shuck is now their starting quarterback there
all right, so he is going to be the starter.
Spencer Ratler heads to the bench. Ratler actually wasn't playing
(29:11):
that bad, except the past two games popped up and
it has not gone well. He's all of a sudden
started turning the football over. So Tyler Shuck is going
to be the starter in New Orleans. And I was
just thinking about this. New Orleans has got I mean,
their salary cap situation is not great because they went
for it a bunch, and they paid a bunch of
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really good players who are now veterans and older on
that team that were part of the last time the
Saints were trying to make legitimate runs to compete for championships.
And if you're one of those veterans on the Saints
and you realize we're bad, it's clear that we're going
(29:53):
to be taking another quarterback next year and now we're
just going to start Tyler Shuck approaching the middle of
the season and with another half of the season to go.
What is that life like if you're one of those
veteran players, because you realize you've got no shot, You're
getting a year older, and it's clear the organization is
heading in a direction that is probably not ideal to you.
(30:15):
If you're trying to chase championships, you just got to
control the controllables.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
That's what I think it comes down to. I mean,
these guys, when you look at their roster, they should
not be horrible. I mean, from Alvin Kamara in your
backfield to Chris Olave and Rashidi Shahid, Brandon Crooks, Cooks,
excuse me, Juwan Johnson. People may not know much about him.
(30:43):
He's a tight end, but he used to be a receiver.
Like he has receiver skills playing at the tight ends position,
and he's pretty you know, he's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
They have a decent offensive line.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
I mean not a great offensive line obviously, but decent.
And and then when you look at him on the
defensive side of the ball, I mean, obviously, Cameron Cameron
Jordan is aging. You know, Chase Young has never been
the same since his his injury in Washington, never like
(31:20):
never even approached it. Yeah, he's never been the same.
But Mario said.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Mario Davis as well too.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
I just I think that it's a they have decent players,
but do they have like a bona fide dog star
on that defense? Like get I get that Cameron Jordan
is has historically been really really good, but has his
(31:49):
time passed well?
Speaker 3 (31:50):
I just want to hear. And maybe this is because
I didn't play in the NFL, so maybe I'm looking
at this from not a realistic standpoint, but I look
at it from a practical standpoint, just to get my
mind around the idea of this was a team that
years ago you looked at and go, well, one of
the more successful organizations in the league, well built, good roster.
(32:15):
If I was one of those veterans, I literally would
just come to work every day and be like check
still clears. That's like, you know what this is what
it is. I'm just going to enjoy the money, realize,
start booking vacations for right after the season, get my
family out of here, and just try and get through
this season in one piece. Because other than that, what
do you got? I mean, like, we're like, what is
(32:38):
really the hope for some of these teams in the league,
Like what do you have to look forward to? We
were there in New Orleans. There was no buzz for
that team. No, there was no buying. It's like, well,
it's a Super Bowl. Everyone was focused on the other teams.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Stop the Mario is a good linebacker, man, Yeah, it
really is. And I mean for him to have the
production that he has, it's pretty phenomenal. He's at seventy
two tackles. I mean, that's pretty phenomenal. Chris Olave is
having a pretty decent season. It's not not blowing the
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doors off. I don't think it's a Pro Bowl season,
but nonetheless, he's having a good year. Alvin Kamara is horrible.
Like his numbers. He's at three hundred, three hundred and
sixty three yards on the season.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
And he's already come out publicly and we talked about
it and said yeah. I mean, if they try and
trade me, I'm not showing up. I'll just go drink
Pinia Clatda somewhere, like I'm not. I just I wonder
if that's sort of the mentality of guys there that
are like, listen, we're not good. I'm a veteran, I've
already been paid, is what it is?
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Like they don't seem like a team that knows how
to win anymore, and they're not a competitive team, and
that has to be the first thing that you're trying
to figure out if you're need to keep your job
as a coach, Like what is what is the problem?
Speaker 3 (34:06):
So basically you're just trying to sift through who do
we want to keep around for next year? So you're
trying including coaches if i'm if I'm New Orleans, including coaches.
I mean Kellen Moore just got there.
Speaker 9 (34:21):
Oh what he just he just does that matter anymore?
I would say there, I could understand because I think
that there was the expectation going into the year, Like
if you asked anybody who's going to be the worst
team in the league this year, majority of people would
have said New Orleans. And that's why the arch manning
(34:42):
stuff was out there because oh, you know, it's meant
to be.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
They were saying they were tanking to get arts right,
which is very different. That's very different if you're if
you are if you are intentionally not playing well, which
there's no way you can could convinced me of that,
but if you can convince me that you're working to
be a one in seventeen, I mean, what's the difference
(35:08):
between him or Glenn In New York?
Speaker 2 (35:11):
What's the difference?
Speaker 3 (35:13):
I would say New Orleans, there weren't any expectations. They've
actually performed better in certain spots, and I think some
people thought they would like Spencer Rattler up until the
last two games, was probably better than a lot of
people thought he was going to be with the Jets.
There was some feeling that Aaron Glenn was going to
come in and turn the organization around on the rosters.
But why why, I don't know. People believe a lot.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
I just think that's strange because they had the same
exact record.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
I mean, people read the horoscope to find out other
days going to be like, you know, people do theird stuff.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
I think you have a talented offense in New Orleans,
and you should be able to generate offense in New Orleans.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Now.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
I don't know how debilitating and crippling it was that
card he didn't want to come back and play. I
don't know that how heavy it is a burden it
was for Ratler to come in and try to win
as the starter. This is what I know. I expected
them to be better than a one win. I expected
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them to be better than one win I did, and
for them to be where they're at, I think if
I'm New Orleans, I got to take a good, long,
hard look at what we got going on that went
me the first time in this new way of handling
things at the you know, even now at the college level,
(36:38):
college level, professional level, I think the stakes have become
so high for some reason. I don't really know what
the origin of it is, this whole win now or
get the hell out mentality. I don't know why that is,
but I will say it is very prominent and imprevalent.
And now you know, guys can be let go after
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So I was digging through my fridge today and I
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I saw that. That's real. Yes, it's real.
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We're trying to do like like where they did with
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You remember that tennis court?
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You could go play on that literally like overseas, it's
like in the clouds. No, well, they're proposing. I thought
it was A I ain't even pay it no mind.
I'mula still think it's Ai until my mom would tell
me it's not.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
So how was I hanging out that?
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Man?
Speaker 5 (39:09):
I'm going to afford it to you right now, Jonas,
so you can get the idea of what they're looking for.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
But there's like on like stilts. No, it's like it's
a big building. It's like a skyscraper. It's just floats
on the top of a sky. Okay, okay, okay, okay,
all right, yeah, get built onto the top. I know
you're saying it was like floating in the air, and
I'm thinking, like, how's it going to be.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
It's supposed to be able to hold eighty thousand people,
and I just want to point out, how do you
expect to get eighty thousand people down that building? Imagine
the traffic getting out of Dodgers Stadium. You're trying to
get everyone out of a skystrick scraper.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Please. That's pretty sweet though. There's also no chance I
would go.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
To a game.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
I would never go to a game. No chance I
never go up there. Yeah, I don't trust never.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
It's high enough going up to the upper decks in
a regular stadium on the ground, and.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
They try and fit so many seats into a lot
of places. Is that like it's steep like in some
of these.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
I just don't want to be that one statistic when
human error takes place. I just don't like like cats
is jumping around, they screaming Like.
Speaker 5 (40:14):
I did see this fun comment asking about the air
quality for the players up there, like is the air center.
Speaker 9 (40:19):
Yeah, it's got to be an issue.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
That's the first thing I thought. Those are true nosebleed seats.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Well, I mean you think about it, if a guy
has like the sickle cell like trait like that lack
of oxygen, well that's why most guys deal with that
when they go play in Manhaw Stadium, because.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Yeah, absolutely, that's real.
Speaker 5 (40:44):
That's an interesting thing to think about.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
The oxygen would be horrible up there, I would assume,
unless they go on pump oxygen into the stadium.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
I mean that'd be sweet too. They got that money
to do it. Bye.
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