December 18, 2025 • 42 mins
In Hour 3 of the show today, the guys preview the Thursday Night game between the Rams & Seahawks and even discuss Puka Nacua making headlines. Plus, the guys chat with Albert Breer, have some fun with the Leftovers, and more!
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and right now we welcome in a Thursday tradition here
on the show. He is the one and only Albert Breer,
senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the MMQB. You
can get him on x at Albert Breer and he
joins us. Now, Abe, what's happening, good morning?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Hey, what's up guys?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Ab Yeah, a little bit more excited.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Come on, man, you normally you.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
Guys are playing like poison for me when I come.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
In and like that was like, I don't know, yeah
me a type juff.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yeah, Harvey danger. That was Brady's U, Brady's pick. Yeah,
I don't yeah at a little underwhelming. I'm with you,
with you sorry, guys, So let me uh, let me
ask you Albert, because we were talking about the benching
of Tuatakoba Low and he's the third quarterback and quin
yours is starting and Jack Wilson's the backup. Like my
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read on it, was. This move makes me think more
so than before that Mike McDaniel has at least some
understanding that he's going to be back next year, because
if he was coaching for his job down the stretch,
I don't know how Tua would be the third best
option at quarterback for the team, And if his contract
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is so unmovable because of the dead cap hit and
everything that comes along with it, this just doesn't feel
like a move that means the end for either Mike
McDaniel or two after this season.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Yeah, I can understand your logic on that. I mean,
I still don't know that a final decision has.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
Been made on Mike McDaniels.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Fay, and I've sent to see.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
Guys for two months.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
Like, I think the barometer all along has been that
he still have the locker room, you know, And I
think that's going to be the barometer.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Coming out of the season too.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
You know, can you reignite like that team under Mike
McDaniel in twenty twenty six and he's been able to
get Like last week notwithstanding and you know, obviously didn't
go the way.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
They wanted in Pittsburgh, but like outside of that.
Speaker 6 (03:23):
They played really well since they fired their general manager,
Chris Career on Halloween, and you know, I think that
sort of thing obviously gets everybody's attention, and I think
the team's responded for the most part.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
So you know, I I think.
Speaker 6 (03:37):
There's a good chance he survives.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
But I also wouldn't say they can just.
Speaker 6 (03:42):
Roll over and die and he's going to be okay,
you know, over the next three weeks. I don't think
that's the case either. As for two, you know, I
hesitate to think that anything's final with two until a
new general manager's in there.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
You know, we also have to.
Speaker 6 (03:56):
Take a look at, like what the landscape looks like
from a quarterback perspective across the league, So like, can
they move his contract now? I don't think they're going
to be able to move at the number it's that
right now, which is fifty.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Four million dollars, right, But like, is there.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
A team out there that's willing willing to take him
at twenty million or twenty five million or thirty million?
In other words, can you eat some of that money
so you don't have to take on the full hit
and buy back a drast pick, you know, So that
could be one way to solve it, or you know,
you can look at a new general manager coming in
and say, Okay, like we're already that's already sunk costs.
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You know, we're already paying for two anyway, So why
don't we just use him as our bridge quarterback? And
that's kind of an awkward thing because he has senior
franchise quarterback for the last six years, But why don't
we just use him as our bridge quarterback? So either
we take one this April, we take one next April.
But either way, we've got a veteran who's been here
in the system. So I think there are a number
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of different ways they can go with it. You know,
I think right now, having been eliminated, you're sort of
going into evaluation mode anyway, and so like this gives
him a chance to evaluate Quinn viewers, and you know,
then I think after that a few hours were to
go down, then maybe you get an evaluation of Zach Wilson.
I think you already know what you've gotten to.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Uh, what's the latest that you've gotten on the injury
front with especially in particular with Patrick Mahomes and Michael Parsons.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
Sure, so, I so my understanding on Mike as it's
a relatively clean tear, and they they are hopeful that
he'll be back to the start of next season. You know, again,
those things could be a moving target, and it's tough
to say, like, you know, less than a week after
the injury, he'll he'll be back on August first, or
September first, or October first, nobody knows that yet, but
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but it does seem like that was a relatively clean tear,
uh LeVar, And so, like, I think they're optimistic that
they'll be able to have him back at the beginning
the last next year. Obviously, you know, like that sort
of injury, you're probably going to miss most of the
off season program and pieces of the training camp.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Mahomes is a little bit.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
More complicated because the LCL is involved, and I you know,
my understanding is this is like week one is sort
of up in the air right now, and like that's
right at the line.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
So, you know, are you going to have him back?
Speaker 6 (06:17):
And I don't think anybody doubts, like he's going to
work his ass off to get back, but like, are
you going to have him back September fifteenth, or are
you going to have him back October first? Like, I think,
you know, a lot of that's not only going to
depend on, you know, how he comes out of the surgery,
but also like how the rehab goes. And so I
would say, like if you look at the two injuries
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right now, I would say Mike has got a better
chance of being back in the lineup for the Packers
week one, then Mahomes has it being back for the Chiefs.
But again, knowing who Mahomes is.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
I would you know, I think a lot of people
there would.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Have been on him beating the clock.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Albert Breers, Senior NFL reporter, Lead Content Strategies at the MMQB,
joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. Get him on
ex at Albert Breer, What do you make of Joe
burrows comments last week? This week? It just we were
kind of kicking this around earlier. It's it's kind of like,
you know, the person back in the day on Facebook
who would just leave a post like, uh, just when
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just when you think you know somebody dot dot dot,
and they'd wait for everybody to ask what's wrong, like
what what is happening? Is he just not good at
this whole? You know, if you leave stuff open ended
and the media is going to run wild with it
or what.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
I think he's just honest, you know, Like I I
I don't think.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
It's much more than that. Like I've dealt with him
enough over the you know, the time he's been in
the NFL.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Like I think he's I think he's honest. I think
he's a good guy. Like I think he wears his
heart on his sleeve.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
And you know, I think in a lot of these situations,
you know, there's frustration, you know.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
And I and I think that's fair.
Speaker 6 (07:51):
Look like he's been in the league six years. He's
only played three full seasons, and those three full seasons,
two of them got the AFY title Game. One of
those two he made a Super Bowl, and then the
other one was last year when he was coming back
off of a major wrist injury and threw for a
zillion yards and the defense was historically bad and that
cost him. So of course he's frustrated, you know. Of course,
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this is something that is gnawing at him and eating
at him. And like I think, you know, like the
fact that the team wasn't able to kind of keep
the ship afloat to the degree they needed to get
him into the playoffs and at least give him a
fighting chance. I think frustrates him as well.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
On the flip side.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
Of it, I would tell you guys, just from my
own conversations with him over the years, he takes a
lot of pride in being the guy who's changing the
Bengalis franchise right, and so, like he put their feet
to the fire on paying Tamar Chase and.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
T Higgins and Trey Hendrickson, and you.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
Know, you've seen some changes in the way the organization
conducts itself, and that they've extended their scouting department.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Which was really small.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
They put up the practice bawl, which seems like a
little thing but with.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
A big problem.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
And since Snetti, so, I think he's still at this
point where.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
He wants to be the guy who changes it.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
He wants to be the guy who, you know, makes
the Bengals different than they were when he got there.
That said, I mean, you know it, could he eventually
get to the point that Matthew Stafford got to in Detroit,
like I certainly think so eventually.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I don't think he's there yet. And I think if.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
I'm somebody in the Bengals organization and a position of power.
My radar has to be up for it twenty four
hours a day, you know, and so I gotta make
sure that I'm doing everything I can to put a
championship product in the field around Joe Burrow, so he
doesn't get to that point of being Matthew.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Stafford in Detroit.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
So I think there are some moving parts there, but
I don't think he's at the.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Point where he's gonna elbow his way out quite yet.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Abe.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
The Steelers, some way, somehow find a way to always
be in the conversation of relevance. Now, this was a
season where a lot of people had some very very
strong criticisms and not very far from you know where
we are right now currently, but they sit on top
of the AFC North heading down the home stretch. What
(10:08):
what have you received in terms of just kind of
the conversation points surrounding the Pittsburgh Steelers, obviously with Aaron
Rodgers and you know, the discussions of of Mike Tomlin
has this run its course type type deal?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Well, I looked engage the other day, didn't they my LaVar?
Like I thought.
Speaker 6 (10:28):
I thought they looked like they were locked in, and
I thought that was probably as good as they've looked
all year, to be honest with you, and I I
mean people are quick to discount that, Oh it's Miami.
Miami is playing really well, you know, coming into coming
into that game.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
So gang winning streak, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
Like so, you know, and they completely I mean.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
They took them out, they took their they took her
a breath away, you know, like it was twenty eight
to three, you know, before the Dolphins put.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Some put them I call them some empty calories.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
Up there on the scoreboard, you know.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
So so I like, I think, like what you're seeing
is like the evolution of a team that.
Speaker 6 (11:06):
You know, I think that they've managed a certain way
and I think is ready to, you know, at least
give it its best shot now as we get closer
to the end of the season in January. Now, the
problem for them is going to be that there is
really only I think there's only one way into the
playoffs right now for them. They have to win the North,
(11:27):
right because if you look at it, I say the
Chargers probably have one of the wildcards. Then I would
say either the Texas or Jaguars, whoever doesn't win the
South is probably going to be another wildcard and then
either the Patriots or Bills, whoever doesn't win the East
is going to be the third wildcard.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
So but the only way they're going to be able to.
Speaker 6 (11:45):
Get in is to win the North, and that's in
front of them now. But if they get in, I mean,
I like what I saw the other night was the
defense that was playing faster and even without TJ. Watt
out there right which they hope they get TJ. Watt pass,
and then offensively that's the most comfortable And Aaron Rodgers has
looked in a couple of years to me, and I
had somebody point this out to me.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
I thought it was really interesting.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
You know, if you go back and you look at
Brady and Manning at the end of their careers, right
like great quarterbacks, those are Aaron's contemporaries. Those guys would
always be at their best when they had veteran receivers
around them, right like guys that they felt comfortable with,
Guys where I know He's going to be in the
right spot. Look at the group that was out there
with with Aaron, It's much different than the group that
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was out there with them three months ago.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
It was DK Metcalf.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
It was Adam Ceelin.
Speaker 6 (12:33):
It was Marcus Valdez Scantling who he played with and
you know in in Green Bay.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Yeah, so like you have like all these.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
Guys who I think Aaron feels like he can trust.
And so now you see him playing in rhythm, the
balls coming out quicker.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
He's taking fewer hits.
Speaker 6 (12:50):
It's just I'm really interested to see what this looks like,
you know, if.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
They can get in.
Speaker 6 (12:54):
So obviously like it's on them now to find a
way to get in, and because they haven't been great
all year, like you know, there's really only one way
to get in.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
They have to win the division.
Speaker 6 (13:05):
But they already got the one over Baltimore, and they'll
get a shot at Baltimore.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Again in week eighteen.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
And if they get in, I think, you know, they
become a team that's that's at least interesting going into
the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
You mentioned Baltimore. Lamar Jackson missed another Wednesday practice. I
believe that's six weeks in a row he's missed the
Wednesday practice. This time it was for the flu. It
seems like he gets the flu a lot. Does he
have like the immune system of a corpse? I don't
I don't understand what's happening there.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
My kids are getting sick a lot, you know, like
when your kid maybe when your kids are young, they
bring stuff home.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Right. It's just like, and I know this season has
not gone anywhere close to what they thought it was.
But is there concern about just how banged up he's
been this year, how unavailable he's been. Is there are there?
Is there long concerns?
Speaker 5 (13:52):
I think there.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
I think there has to be, you know, like I mean,
look like I like, the amount of of of carries
he has over the course of his career is unprecedented
for a quarterback, you know, And so you know, I
think this is always going to be the concern with Lamar.
This is his eighth year, you know, and and that's
eight years of you know, more carries than any other
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quarterback in the history of football, you know.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
So the idea that he would be banged up.
Speaker 6 (14:22):
The idea that eventually like this could catch up with him,
I think has always been on the board, you know.
And I think, you know, because of the way that
that they play, like it's sort of you know, it's
always necessitated having Lamar involved in the running game and
so yeah, absolutely, you know, like I think that's something
that you know, if you're if you're the Ravens, you know,
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you you you look hard at and you know, I think,
you know, obviously you've.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
Got your plan for this year and everything else, but.
Speaker 6 (14:52):
Going forward, I think you have to you have to
look at how you're deploying him, and you know, do
we do we look at pulling back a little bit
in the quarterback run game after this.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
Year, you know, and I think for this year certainly,
I think, like honestly, guys, like.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
I think, like last week against the Bengals was the
best he's look just.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
As a runner and and and just.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
As far as how explosive he looks.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
So you know, if you take that and like maybe
you hope that missing the Wednesday practice was just kind
of a freak thing at that time of year, you know,
when people get sick and and and and and you
hope that you can get the best out of them
going forward based on how he looked against the Bengals.
But you know, absolutely, certainly is something that you know,
you're I think you're you're constantly monitoring and you got
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to be concerned with to to to.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Some degree, if you're if you're the Ravens, how will
Pete Carroll be judged by seasons in they have the
Texans next. I don't see that being a win because
the Texans are very well, Yeah, the Texans are still playing.
They don't get them in the last game where they're
getting ready for the playoffs and make rest guys, they
can get the Giants and they can get the Chiefs
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without Mahomes. So they're potentially looking at a four wins
season Albert and well last year, I believe in twenty
twenty four the Raiders finish with oh yeah, four wins
last season. How do you handle things? Is this the
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one time where you say, oh, yeah, we won't fire
our coach after the first year. We're going to actually
give them time to try to figure it out. And
how do you justify that? Because to me, I felt
like you were in a good position to build off
of what you did in four wins and four twenty four,
but you get rid of the coach, so now you
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got to start to do it all over again with
a new coach, and he has seemingly done the same exact,
if not potentially worse than what you saw take place.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Last season.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
How should how should we be viewing this as onlookers
to the Las Vegas Raiders.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Yeah, I mean I would just.
Speaker 6 (17:01):
Tell you, I I know people there who feel like
they're getting fired, you know, and so like that's always
an ominous thing when you know you you sort of
hear those whispers like that so and so or so
and so feels like that's it for them, you know,
not the greatest sign in the world.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
When when when.
Speaker 6 (17:23):
When guys are starting to snip around at other jobs
and stuff, you know, so I you know, I think
that there's real concern internally that they are going to
be wanting done as.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
A staff and new owners just going to play into this.
Speaker 6 (17:37):
You know, like this is not like the Raiders of
of of five years ago.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Even you know, like this is you. You you have.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
Mark Davis still there, yes, but like you've also got
the you know, like and it's not just Brady but
the big money guys like Egan Durban and Michael Melvine.
I know those names don't mean mean a lot to people,
but there's been this infusion of cash there and you know,
like this kind of commitment to like, okay, we're we're
going to change the faith of the Raiders, and it
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hasn't looked good this year, you know, And like, you know,
the one thing that Pete Carroll was forty two years old.
I think Pete Carroll's age works.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Against him in this case.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
Whether that's fair or not, Like I think that's that's
the reality of it.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
So, you know, I think they you see.
Speaker 6 (18:21):
How the rest of the year plays out and where
that goes.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
I would tell you, like I was there in the summer,
and it looked.
Speaker 6 (18:28):
Like everybody was locked in and it looked like Pete's
program was was getting ready to roll. And you know,
obviously it hasn't gone that way. And so yeah, I
mean there are a lot of big tech picture of questions.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
You have to ask coming out of this, and.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
You know, and certainly, you know, I think there are.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
Some voices in that organization now that that are going
to be heard, that are that are different voices than
you may have heard from in the past.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Alberbrea with us year on Fox Sports Radio, What the
hell is going on with Brandon Ayuk? Like what what
what has happened? Like I don't let me ask.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
You guys this, Let me ask you guys this, Like
I we had a we had a conversation about this
my podcast earlier in the week. So, like, if you're
making twenty five million dollars, well you just like go
do your rehabit the team facility and hang out and
like being a player's lounge. I made the comment like Brandon,
I uk right now, I'd be incredible at college football
twenty six.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
I'd just be hanging out player lounge.
Speaker 6 (19:25):
Yeah, I'd be able to I'd be crushing everybody.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
I hear you, man, I'd be around. Listen.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
They always say when you're injured, you're a ghost in
the facility. So it's not like you're a presence anyway,
even if you're an encouraging person like oh you hey,
come on, man, I have a good day of practice.
That a uh, you know, bring in some some donuts
or some breakfast sandwiches.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Whatever.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
You're a ghost if you're not if you're not participating,
if you're not helping, nobody really cares about you. Nobody's
really paying too much attention to you. But in this
in this situation, yes, I'm with you. I'm not doing
anything that that has me being talked about outside of
the dude does everything he's asked to do, does what
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he's supposed to do, and you.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Know, whatever's going to happen to you. Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Yeah yeah. So like that's that that's the that's the weird.
Speaker 6 (20:16):
Thing about this whole thing to me. And you know
it's strange too because they they had like they had
they had like pretty pretty decent offers on the table
from Pittsburgh and New England to trade for him last
year when the contract negotiation went the wrong way. And
that organization I think generally has been really good as
far as like figuring out who to pay, how to
(20:39):
pay them. You know, they've obviously done a great job
identifying talent and developing talent and all that different stuff there.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
They get a lot of things right, you know.
Speaker 6 (20:47):
But this one, this one's interesting because it's not like
this is a free agent that you struck out on.
This is a guy you had in your building, you
know what I mean, Like, and you made the conscious
decision after four years to pay him, and you you know,
you turned away like really really good trade offers for him,
and you know, like now this is happening less than
(21:10):
the less than two years later. You know, it's it's
a weird situation.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
I think it goes the saying that he'll be on
some other.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
Team in twenty twenty six and what that looks like
and how they get there. I'm not sure whether they
can trade them, Like I think it'd be difficult to
trade that contract now.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
So he is, he is healthy enough to play, He's
just not showing up.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
Yeah, I mean, like like I don't I don't know
exactly where his health is, but I but I can
tell you this, like for a fact, like they thought
like okay, like and I'm talking like a few months ago,
like their target was like week nine, week ten, week eleven,
somewhere in there, that that.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
That was when he was going to be back on
the team, but back in the roster.
Speaker 6 (21:54):
And if you just look at the designation they gave him,
you know what I mean, Like, I mean, the things
they did were in preparation to have him back for
the back half of the season. And obviously that that
hasn't happened.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
And it's not like this is a team that's not.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Winning or couldn't use him.
Speaker 6 (22:11):
You know, they've had a ton of injuries, like at
the receiver.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
Position early in the year they were without Kittle.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
They you know like they didn't they They've had Pearce.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
All in and out of the lineup. They've had to
you know.
Speaker 6 (22:23):
Go back and get different guys. And Kendrick Bourne was
playing like a major role in the team for a
while there. So like, I it's not like they don't
need them.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
It's not like they're not contending, you know, but you.
Speaker 6 (22:36):
Know, obviously that relationship is prayed to a point where
it looks like it's it's well.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Beyond the point of no return.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
It like it just it kind of feels like the
it almost feels like the Trey Lance, the the trading
of the picks to move up and take Trey Lance,
and you know, it was almost like one of the
reports was that, you know, Kyle Shanahan wanted Mac Jones,
it was John Lynch who wanted Trey Lance. And this
feels like it was John. It was John Lynch who
wanted to resign. You can give him that deal. And
(23:05):
Kyle Shannan was kind of like, I don't know, man,
like it just it feels like Kyle Shannan's not been
on board with this from the jump.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
Yeah, Kyle really liked that you as a player, Like
I know that like I you know, I.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
Think that there's he's always been.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
A little bit of a different guy, you know, Like,
so you manage that as long as he's producing for you.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
The I'm with you the.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
Like, I think it kind of like got to the.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
Point maybe it's it's gotten to the point where it
went from tolerable to feed up.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
If that makes sense, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
Like, you know, I think they've they've always been maybe
like dealing with a little bit extra there.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
And you know, but again.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
Like he's a guy who, like, if you talk about him.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
As a player, you know who he is, Like he's
a really good fit for what they want to do.
And you know, when he's been at his best, he's
been really productive for them, you know, so it'll be
interesting to see what happens with him.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
You know, have season.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
But they're at ten and four right now. It's pretty
amazing when you consider they you know, went a stretch
without their quarterback.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
They want to stretch without Kittle.
Speaker 6 (24:08):
They've lost Fred Warner and Nick Bosa for the year.
I mean, they've just had like brutal injury luck and
that's on top of this whole situation, and somehow they're
ten and four, and it looks like they're headed for
the playoffs. And you know, we got that big NFC
West game tonight, and like I I think a lot
of people are forgetting that the Niners are sitting there
(24:28):
one game behind those two.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Yeah, it's been a really good year. Get them on
ex at Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist
at the MMQB, and he joins us every single Thursday.
AB thanks as always. We appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
You guys got the Hurricanes or Aggis on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
I'm leading to Miami, you know what, I'm gonna go
to Miami.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Just be going to Miami too.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Yeah, I just I want to see just tradition. I'd
like to see Miami, you know, making make another deep
run and go deep in.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
The Miami Ohio statement in the Cotton Bowl.
Speaker 6 (25:01):
Then that'd be good.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
I think A and m is going to thump Miami.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Jeez you do yeah, Okay, okay, sticks excep there it is.
That's that's the pick. I mean. Meanwhile, you and you
and the Buck as you sit back and get ready
to win another yeah.
Speaker 6 (25:18):
And hopefully hopefully hopefully, well, hey Mary, we don't talk
next week.
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The first college football playoff game Friday, Alabama Oklahoma. So
that's gonna be uh, that's gonna be fun.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
I mean you.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Remember a home game for the first time in state
college there it was nice, was cold, I think Eric
Dickerson said, because they were playing SMU right. Eric Dickerson
was there and he was like, man, we got the
hell out of there, Like this is not going well.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
It didn't start off well, and it didn't it didn't
go well and it didn't well.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
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But too cold to get your ass whipped like that.
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Puka Nakua is going to be playing later on tonight
in what is uh this is actually a great game.
Like there's been a lot of complaints and you know
previously about well, you know what what sort of game
we get in? You know, is anybody interested in this
crap that they roll out from time to time. But
they landed on a good one because a lot of
times they'll schedule these out and you have no idea
(29:37):
whether or not. You know, these teams are going to
be good. You hope that they're good. You hope the
game means something, especially this late in the year when
the schedule comes out. So we got the Rams and
we got the Seahawks could determine the number one seed
in the NFC. This is in Seattle. Later on tonight.
The Seahawks are a point and a half favorite. It's
kind of the best two teams in the NFC. Yeah,
(30:00):
like Seattle's Seattle's defense is real and Sam Darnold, I mean,
he hasn't played as well down the stretch, but yeah,
you would, you would, you would think that this would
be a game that would get him real fired up
based on the fact that not only is an important
game for the team, but also for him because he's
had some low moments against the Rams, especially recently, Like
(30:23):
you know the game earlier this year, you know, Seattle
was was down big, still had an opportunity to win
that game, but missed a field goal late. Like it
Just so, this is shaping up to be a really
good game. Puka Nakua, he was on Aiden Ross's stream,
and there's some stuff out there that maybe he was,
you know, doing a celebration that's like an anti Semitic celebration,
(30:47):
like that was sort of the spell. Really it's going on. Yeah,
there's that out there. I don't I'm not well versed enough.
Yeah I won't either, but at least you know, just
it's part of the story that's making the rounds of
some people. In my y, not mine either, But we
can mow.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
This one because Phoka Nakua mowed the hell out of
a law that I need to mob.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Yeah, yeah, you will mess with another one. He's saying
that NFL officials that they they want some of that shine.
Let's take a listen, because there's just some of the rules,
aren't that.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
Like, these guys want to be These guys are lawyers
and relative they want to be on TV too, brothers
like the game, you don't think he's.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Touching his friends and.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
The group chat like yo, you guys just saw they Sunday.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Night football like that. That wasn't p I like what
I called it was. Seriously. I mean, these guys are
noble human beings too.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
So that's such an immature conversation. I mean, whether it's
true or not, I don't care. I don't really care,
because I mean, a referee is a referee, Like you're
always going to have built in personalities that are exposed,
and those are referees, you know, and it's usually the
white hat that that gets that type of attension. But
who cares like that? That's a corny It's a corny conversation.
(32:03):
It's a corny conversation. It's also like, bro, we're browing
out right now. Let me tell you that like these lawyers,
they want to be seen. They're in their groups as
you know they are, Joe. It's like they're like, look, man,
check me out on Sunday night, but we got a
Thursday night.
Speaker 6 (32:20):
Gay.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
Look watch, I'm gonna throw up. I'm gonna throw up
our set when we out there, You're gonna see me
make a And.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
I would agree with you. It's a it's a cornball conversation.
Is but you know, the NFL is not gonna be
happy about this, you know, because I don't know if
it's a big deal. Well okay, but if you have
a player saying officials are the worst. They're just making
calls so they can get on TV. And with the
you know, gambling and everything that's been infused into the league,
like the NFL is probably looking at this going eight.
(32:48):
The last thing we want is for people to think
this isn't on the up and up, Like we don't
need any more of this crap. We don't need any
anybody else, you know, leaving leaving it open to you know,
the possibility that this stuff's not on the up and up.
We see what's happened in the NBA. We don't want
that to happen here. So I don't know if this
results in him getting fined.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
I don't think. I don't think he was. I don't
think what he was saying was coherent enough for it
to be of consequence.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
What do you mean by that?
Speaker 4 (33:16):
Like it was just like you just you're you're poking
fun at the referees. There was no real substance to
what he was saying, you know, there was no real
like uh like valid information connected to it. Like it
wasn't like he was whistleblowing or anything like that. He
was just stating a bro a bro opinion, like bro,
(33:39):
they just want to be seen. Like it's like when
you're talking about like somebody you know, like oh, man,
isn't he a worse Like yeah, man, like god Lee,
like Kenny just wash and brushes teeth like I mean, gosh,
he stinks Like I almost feel like he wants us
to smell like he. All they were doing was like
just like Cornie Capp and that's really all it was.
(34:02):
It wasn't like he was like look, man, I go
out there, I get held on every play.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
I'm not able to run my routes the way I
need to run my routes. I'm at the top of
my route. They're grabbing me, they're holding me. I can't
get to the ball the way I.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Need to get to the ball.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
And it's all because these schmucks are out here not
making the proper calls. They're the worst. Like he didn't
like directly cite things in his little rant, So I
don't see it being of any consequence. But it will
be fun to watch if they give him PI calls
or not. It will be fun to watch to see
(34:38):
if they allow you know, cause if I'm if, if
I'm the other side, if I'm Seattle, I'm coming into
the game aggressive against Pook and the cool I'm not
trying to be cooked.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
I ain't trying to be the hook and the key
a zebra. They if you know, listen, just see you know,
I expect you guys.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
If you're out here for clout, you clout chasing man
him right here, i'ma be right there like before the
snot him right here, mister referee. You see hook in
the Coolah, Yeah, I call him hook in the cool
like that yeah, yeah, yeah, and when he cooking.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
You you know you gotta put that. Yeah, yeah, I might,
I might. I might have one.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
While I watch him play tonight little hook in the
cool plus. You dig what I'm saying? What's the plus?
Oh it's plus, is there?
Speaker 6 (35:23):
Well?
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Yeah, I got a plus one in there.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Yeah plus.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
That's ok.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
It's a bad man majama that lands down on that
sha for.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
People that don't know there's you know many who go
to hookah bars bars got one at his house. Yeah,
you get it down.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
Yeah, I don't go hookah hookah light. You go hookah
light at them hookah bars. You get it at the
crib by l a spot. You gotta get hookah plus.
And there's no tobacco, and yes there is there a tobacco. Yeah,
just flavored tobacco.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Flavor shesha.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
Yeah yeah, it's flavor flavored tobacco. But when you go
hookah hookah plus, that's flavored tobacco plus flavored.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
With the green water. Yeah, bruh, come on, move, come
on with you. You're going to call them green as
it or what?
Speaker 4 (36:21):
I don't know, I want it to. Yeah, I was
thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Lorena ruined it for you. Yeah, she did put the
pressure out.
Speaker 8 (36:32):
I have my outfit picked out on everything.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Haven't you been to call them a couple of times?
You liked it?
Speaker 4 (36:39):
You went with Coop, didn't you? Yes?
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Yees? Among other people huh yes? What was it like?
Did you like it?
Speaker 6 (36:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Was it like the sphere?
Speaker 8 (36:51):
I haven't been in the sphere? You said that was
really cool though, But that's the same type of idea.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
That did right there.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
Man. First of all, I thought I was in Epicot Center, right,
you've ever been in It's like everything's wide open, and
it like it feels like very industrial and cold, like
you're in space. That's how it felt going up to
the theater. Then you walk into theater. Oh god, I
have like height, like like like elevation issues, like I
(37:21):
lose my I lose my balance when I'm high because
I'm super super afraid of heights, so I started losing
my balance. You come into the arena the sphere, and
is there more than one? Or is it only one?
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Only one sphere?
Speaker 6 (37:35):
Right now?
Speaker 4 (37:35):
Yeah? You know I'm saying is there more than one?
Like like cosm?
Speaker 1 (37:39):
No? No, no, is there more than there's more than one?
Speaker 4 (37:41):
Cosm? There's one in Texas. I'm saying, is there more
than one theater like that you can walk into?
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
I think maybe it's only one. Maybe it's only one.
It's one big one, yeah, just one biggest Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
Man, that thing was over your head, Like it was
over your head. So you're watching the movie in front
of you, right, but then the movie expands. Once they
expand unto you watching the movie, it's the whole thing.
It's all over top of you. So you're looking up
and literally and at certain points in the movie, they
would drop things like you know they had like the
(38:15):
limited apples. They dropped the apples out of out of
the ceiling and you got to catch them and stuff
like that, which I think is cool. You can't buy
the apples, they're just dropped during the show. You got
to catch an apple. I had to rough an old man.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Did you get I roughed him.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
I had to be I had to be my baby girls.
I had to be my baby girl's hero. I hit
the dude on I hit the dude on the shoulder.
It was like, hey, old man, let me get that
apple off you. You don't need that thing. He looked
at me. I was like, I need that apple. He
gave it to me too. I'm come to find out.
(38:54):
Come to find out, there was an apple right under me.
There was an apple right under me. Didn't see it
because we're in the movies. So I was able to
give him the apple back. But the sphere is cold banged,
So yeah, the cosm is like that, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
The UFC event they had did it? UFC note chab,
you're at the sphere b unbelievable. I would go see
an event there. Yeah, like that. I would go see it,
like a live sporting event at that place. Really cool. Crazy.
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bikes over one hundred e bikes tweet Nice.
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Where are you driving an e bike too?
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Oh?
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Can I take it on the freeway?
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No?
Speaker 1 (41:31):
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I don't know, Probably like forty forty five maybe.
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It can not all, but it can we fast.
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joins us. Now, Abe, what's happening, good morning?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Hey, what's up guys?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Ab Yeah, a little bit more excited.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Come on, man, you normally you.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
Guys are playing like poison for me when I come.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
In and like that was like, I don't know, yeah
me a type juff.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yeah, Harvey danger. That was Brady's U, Brady's pick. Yeah,
I don't yeah at a little underwhelming. I'm with you,
with you sorry, guys, So let me uh, let me
ask you Albert, because we were talking about the benching
of Tuatakoba Low and he's the third quarterback and quin
yours is starting and Jack Wilson's the backup. Like my
(02:15):
read on it, was. This move makes me think more
so than before that Mike McDaniel has at least some
understanding that he's going to be back next year, because
if he was coaching for his job down the stretch,
I don't know how Tua would be the third best
option at quarterback for the team, And if his contract
(02:40):
is so unmovable because of the dead cap hit and
everything that comes along with it, this just doesn't feel
like a move that means the end for either Mike
McDaniel or two after this season.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Yeah, I can understand your logic on that. I mean,
I still don't know that a final decision has.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
Been made on Mike McDaniels.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Fay, and I've sent to see.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
Guys for two months.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
Like, I think the barometer all along has been that
he still have the locker room, you know, And I
think that's going to be the barometer.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Coming out of the season too.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
You know, can you reignite like that team under Mike
McDaniel in twenty twenty six and he's been able to
get Like last week notwithstanding and you know, obviously didn't
go the way.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
They wanted in Pittsburgh, but like outside of that.
Speaker 6 (03:23):
They played really well since they fired their general manager,
Chris Career on Halloween, and you know, I think that
sort of thing obviously gets everybody's attention, and I think
the team's responded for the most part.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
So you know, I I think.
Speaker 6 (03:37):
There's a good chance he survives.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
But I also wouldn't say they can just.
Speaker 6 (03:42):
Roll over and die and he's going to be okay,
you know, over the next three weeks. I don't think
that's the case either. As for two, you know, I
hesitate to think that anything's final with two until a
new general manager's in there.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
You know, we also have to.
Speaker 6 (03:56):
Take a look at, like what the landscape looks like
from a quarterback perspective across the league, So like, can
they move his contract now? I don't think they're going
to be able to move at the number it's that
right now, which is fifty.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Four million dollars, right, But like, is there.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
A team out there that's willing willing to take him
at twenty million or twenty five million or thirty million?
In other words, can you eat some of that money
so you don't have to take on the full hit
and buy back a drast pick, you know, So that
could be one way to solve it, or you know,
you can look at a new general manager coming in
and say, Okay, like we're already that's already sunk costs.
(04:31):
You know, we're already paying for two anyway, So why
don't we just use him as our bridge quarterback? And
that's kind of an awkward thing because he has senior
franchise quarterback for the last six years, But why don't
we just use him as our bridge quarterback? So either
we take one this April, we take one next April.
But either way, we've got a veteran who's been here
in the system. So I think there are a number
(04:52):
of different ways they can go with it. You know,
I think right now, having been eliminated, you're sort of
going into evaluation mode anyway, and so like this gives
him a chance to evaluate Quinn viewers, and you know,
then I think after that a few hours were to
go down, then maybe you get an evaluation of Zach Wilson.
I think you already know what you've gotten to.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Uh, what's the latest that you've gotten on the injury
front with especially in particular with Patrick Mahomes and Michael Parsons.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
Sure, so, I so my understanding on Mike as it's
a relatively clean tear, and they they are hopeful that
he'll be back to the start of next season. You know, again,
those things could be a moving target, and it's tough
to say, like, you know, less than a week after
the injury, he'll he'll be back on August first, or
September first, or October first, nobody knows that yet, but
(05:45):
but it does seem like that was a relatively clean tear,
uh LeVar, And so, like, I think they're optimistic that
they'll be able to have him back at the beginning
the last next year. Obviously, you know, like that sort
of injury, you're probably going to miss most of the
off season program and pieces of the training camp.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Mahomes is a little bit.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
More complicated because the LCL is involved, and I you know,
my understanding is this is like week one is sort
of up in the air right now, and like that's
right at the line.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
So, you know, are you going to have him back?
Speaker 6 (06:17):
And I don't think anybody doubts, like he's going to
work his ass off to get back, but like, are
you going to have him back September fifteenth, or are
you going to have him back October first? Like, I think,
you know, a lot of that's not only going to
depend on, you know, how he comes out of the surgery,
but also like how the rehab goes. And so I
would say, like if you look at the two injuries
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right now, I would say Mike has got a better
chance of being back in the lineup for the Packers
week one, then Mahomes has it being back for the Chiefs.
But again, knowing who Mahomes is.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
I would you know, I think a lot of people
there would.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Have been on him beating the clock.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Albert Breers, Senior NFL reporter, Lead Content Strategies at the MMQB,
joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. Get him on
ex at Albert Breer, What do you make of Joe
burrows comments last week? This week? It just we were
kind of kicking this around earlier. It's it's kind of like,
you know, the person back in the day on Facebook
who would just leave a post like, uh, just when
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just when you think you know somebody dot dot dot,
and they'd wait for everybody to ask what's wrong, like
what what is happening? Is he just not good at
this whole? You know, if you leave stuff open ended
and the media is going to run wild with it
or what.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
I think he's just honest, you know, Like I I
I don't think.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
It's much more than that. Like I've dealt with him
enough over the you know, the time he's been in
the NFL.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Like I think he's I think he's honest. I think
he's a good guy. Like I think he wears his
heart on his sleeve.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
And you know, I think in a lot of these situations,
you know, there's frustration, you know.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
And I and I think that's fair.
Speaker 6 (07:51):
Look like he's been in the league six years. He's
only played three full seasons, and those three full seasons,
two of them got the AFY title Game. One of
those two he made a Super Bowl, and then the
other one was last year when he was coming back
off of a major wrist injury and threw for a
zillion yards and the defense was historically bad and that
cost him. So of course he's frustrated, you know. Of course,
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this is something that is gnawing at him and eating
at him. And like I think, you know, like the
fact that the team wasn't able to kind of keep
the ship afloat to the degree they needed to get
him into the playoffs and at least give him a
fighting chance. I think frustrates him as well.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
On the flip side.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
Of it, I would tell you guys, just from my
own conversations with him over the years, he takes a
lot of pride in being the guy who's changing the
Bengalis franchise right, and so, like he put their feet
to the fire on paying Tamar Chase and.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
T Higgins and Trey Hendrickson, and you.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
Know, you've seen some changes in the way the organization
conducts itself, and that they've extended their scouting department.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Which was really small.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
They put up the practice bawl, which seems like a
little thing but with.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
A big problem.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
And since Snetti, so, I think he's still at this
point where.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
He wants to be the guy who changes it.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
He wants to be the guy who, you know, makes
the Bengals different than they were when he got there.
That said, I mean, you know it, could he eventually
get to the point that Matthew Stafford got to in Detroit,
like I certainly think so eventually.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I don't think he's there yet. And I think if.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
I'm somebody in the Bengals organization and a position of power.
My radar has to be up for it twenty four
hours a day, you know, and so I gotta make
sure that I'm doing everything I can to put a
championship product in the field around Joe Burrow, so he
doesn't get to that point of being Matthew.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Stafford in Detroit.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
So I think there are some moving parts there, but
I don't think he's at the.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Point where he's gonna elbow his way out quite yet.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Abe.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
The Steelers, some way, somehow find a way to always
be in the conversation of relevance. Now, this was a
season where a lot of people had some very very
strong criticisms and not very far from you know where
we are right now currently, but they sit on top
of the AFC North heading down the home stretch. What
(10:08):
what have you received in terms of just kind of
the conversation points surrounding the Pittsburgh Steelers, obviously with Aaron
Rodgers and you know, the discussions of of Mike Tomlin
has this run its course type type deal?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Well, I looked engage the other day, didn't they my LaVar?
Like I thought.
Speaker 6 (10:28):
I thought they looked like they were locked in, and
I thought that was probably as good as they've looked
all year, to be honest with you, and I I
mean people are quick to discount that, Oh it's Miami.
Miami is playing really well, you know, coming into coming
into that game.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
So gang winning streak, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
Like so, you know, and they completely I mean.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
They took them out, they took their they took her
a breath away, you know, like it was twenty eight
to three, you know, before the Dolphins put.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Some put them I call them some empty calories.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
Up there on the scoreboard, you know.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
So so I like, I think, like what you're seeing
is like the evolution of a team that.
Speaker 6 (11:06):
You know, I think that they've managed a certain way
and I think is ready to, you know, at least
give it its best shot now as we get closer
to the end of the season in January. Now, the
problem for them is going to be that there is
really only I think there's only one way into the
playoffs right now for them. They have to win the North,
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right because if you look at it, I say the
Chargers probably have one of the wildcards. Then I would
say either the Texas or Jaguars, whoever doesn't win the
South is probably going to be another wildcard and then
either the Patriots or Bills, whoever doesn't win the East
is going to be the third wildcard.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
So but the only way they're going to be able to.
Speaker 6 (11:45):
Get in is to win the North, and that's in
front of them now. But if they get in, I mean,
I like what I saw the other night was the
defense that was playing faster and even without TJ. Watt
out there right which they hope they get TJ. Watt pass,
and then offensively that's the most comfortable And Aaron Rodgers has
looked in a couple of years to me, and I
had somebody point this out to me.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
I thought it was really interesting.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
You know, if you go back and you look at
Brady and Manning at the end of their careers, right
like great quarterbacks, those are Aaron's contemporaries. Those guys would
always be at their best when they had veteran receivers
around them, right like guys that they felt comfortable with,
Guys where I know He's going to be in the
right spot. Look at the group that was out there
with with Aaron, It's much different than the group that
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was out there with them three months ago.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
It was DK Metcalf.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
It was Adam Ceelin.
Speaker 6 (12:33):
It was Marcus Valdez Scantling who he played with and
you know in in Green Bay.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Yeah, so like you have like all these.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
Guys who I think Aaron feels like he can trust.
And so now you see him playing in rhythm, the
balls coming out quicker.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
He's taking fewer hits.
Speaker 6 (12:50):
It's just I'm really interested to see what this looks like,
you know, if.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
They can get in.
Speaker 6 (12:54):
So obviously like it's on them now to find a
way to get in, and because they haven't been great
all year, like you know, there's really only one way
to get in.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
They have to win the division.
Speaker 6 (13:05):
But they already got the one over Baltimore, and they'll
get a shot at Baltimore.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Again in week eighteen.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
And if they get in, I think, you know, they
become a team that's that's at least interesting going into
the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
You mentioned Baltimore. Lamar Jackson missed another Wednesday practice. I
believe that's six weeks in a row he's missed the
Wednesday practice. This time it was for the flu. It
seems like he gets the flu a lot. Does he
have like the immune system of a corpse? I don't
I don't understand what's happening there.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
My kids are getting sick a lot, you know, like
when your kid maybe when your kids are young, they
bring stuff home.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Right. It's just like, and I know this season has
not gone anywhere close to what they thought it was.
But is there concern about just how banged up he's
been this year, how unavailable he's been. Is there are there?
Is there long concerns?
Speaker 5 (13:52):
I think there.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
I think there has to be, you know, like I mean,
look like I like, the amount of of of carries
he has over the course of his career is unprecedented
for a quarterback, you know, And so you know, I
think this is always going to be the concern with Lamar.
This is his eighth year, you know, and and that's
eight years of you know, more carries than any other
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quarterback in the history of football, you know.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
So the idea that he would be banged up.
Speaker 6 (14:22):
The idea that eventually like this could catch up with him,
I think has always been on the board, you know.
And I think, you know, because of the way that
that they play, like it's sort of you know, it's
always necessitated having Lamar involved in the running game and
so yeah, absolutely, you know, like I think that's something
that you know, if you're if you're the Ravens, you know,
(14:46):
you you you look hard at and you know, I think,
you know, obviously you've.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
Got your plan for this year and everything else, but.
Speaker 6 (14:52):
Going forward, I think you have to you have to
look at how you're deploying him, and you know, do
we do we look at pulling back a little bit
in the quarterback run game after this.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
Year, you know, and I think for this year certainly,
I think, like honestly, guys, like.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
I think, like last week against the Bengals was the
best he's look just.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
As a runner and and and just.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
As far as how explosive he looks.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
So you know, if you take that and like maybe
you hope that missing the Wednesday practice was just kind
of a freak thing at that time of year, you know,
when people get sick and and and and and you
hope that you can get the best out of them
going forward based on how he looked against the Bengals.
But you know, absolutely, certainly is something that you know,
you're I think you're you're constantly monitoring and you got
(15:37):
to be concerned with to to to.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Some degree, if you're if you're the Ravens, how will
Pete Carroll be judged by seasons in they have the
Texans next. I don't see that being a win because
the Texans are very well, Yeah, the Texans are still playing.
They don't get them in the last game where they're
getting ready for the playoffs and make rest guys, they
can get the Giants and they can get the Chiefs
(16:01):
without Mahomes. So they're potentially looking at a four wins
season Albert and well last year, I believe in twenty
twenty four the Raiders finish with oh yeah, four wins
last season. How do you handle things? Is this the
(16:21):
one time where you say, oh, yeah, we won't fire
our coach after the first year. We're going to actually
give them time to try to figure it out. And
how do you justify that? Because to me, I felt
like you were in a good position to build off
of what you did in four wins and four twenty four,
but you get rid of the coach, so now you
(16:42):
got to start to do it all over again with
a new coach, and he has seemingly done the same exact,
if not potentially worse than what you saw take place.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Last season.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
How should how should we be viewing this as onlookers
to the Las Vegas Raiders.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Yeah, I mean I would just.
Speaker 6 (17:01):
Tell you, I I know people there who feel like
they're getting fired, you know, and so like that's always
an ominous thing when you know you you sort of
hear those whispers like that so and so or so
and so feels like that's it for them, you know,
not the greatest sign in the world.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
When when when.
Speaker 6 (17:23):
When guys are starting to snip around at other jobs
and stuff, you know, so I you know, I think
that there's real concern internally that they are going to
be wanting done as.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
A staff and new owners just going to play into this.
Speaker 6 (17:37):
You know, like this is not like the Raiders of
of of five years ago.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Even you know, like this is you. You you have.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
Mark Davis still there, yes, but like you've also got
the you know, like and it's not just Brady but
the big money guys like Egan Durban and Michael Melvine.
I know those names don't mean mean a lot to people,
but there's been this infusion of cash there and you know,
like this kind of commitment to like, okay, we're we're
going to change the faith of the Raiders, and it
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hasn't looked good this year, you know, And like, you know,
the one thing that Pete Carroll was forty two years old.
I think Pete Carroll's age works.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Against him in this case.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
Whether that's fair or not, Like I think that's that's
the reality of it.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
So, you know, I think they you see.
Speaker 6 (18:21):
How the rest of the year plays out and where
that goes.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
I would tell you, like I was there in the summer,
and it looked.
Speaker 6 (18:28):
Like everybody was locked in and it looked like Pete's
program was was getting ready to roll. And you know,
obviously it hasn't gone that way. And so yeah, I
mean there are a lot of big tech picture of questions.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
You have to ask coming out of this, and.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
You know, and certainly, you know, I think there are.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
Some voices in that organization now that that are going
to be heard, that are that are different voices than
you may have heard from in the past.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Alberbrea with us year on Fox Sports Radio, What the
hell is going on with Brandon Ayuk? Like what what
what has happened? Like I don't let me ask.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
You guys this, Let me ask you guys this, Like
I we had a we had a conversation about this
my podcast earlier in the week. So, like, if you're
making twenty five million dollars, well you just like go
do your rehabit the team facility and hang out and
like being a player's lounge. I made the comment like Brandon,
I uk right now, I'd be incredible at college football
twenty six.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
I'd just be hanging out player lounge.
Speaker 6 (19:25):
Yeah, I'd be able to I'd be crushing everybody.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
I hear you, man, I'd be around. Listen.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
They always say when you're injured, you're a ghost in
the facility. So it's not like you're a presence anyway,
even if you're an encouraging person like oh you hey,
come on, man, I have a good day of practice.
That a uh, you know, bring in some some donuts
or some breakfast sandwiches.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Whatever.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
You're a ghost if you're not if you're not participating,
if you're not helping, nobody really cares about you. Nobody's
really paying too much attention to you. But in this
in this situation, yes, I'm with you. I'm not doing
anything that that has me being talked about outside of
the dude does everything he's asked to do, does what
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he's supposed to do, and you.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Know, whatever's going to happen to you. Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Yeah yeah. So like that's that that's the that's the weird.
Speaker 6 (20:16):
Thing about this whole thing to me. And you know
it's strange too because they they had like they had
they had like pretty pretty decent offers on the table
from Pittsburgh and New England to trade for him last
year when the contract negotiation went the wrong way. And
that organization I think generally has been really good as
far as like figuring out who to pay, how to
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pay them. You know, they've obviously done a great job
identifying talent and developing talent and all that different stuff there.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
They get a lot of things right, you know.
Speaker 6 (20:47):
But this one, this one's interesting because it's not like
this is a free agent that you struck out on.
This is a guy you had in your building, you
know what I mean, Like, and you made the conscious
decision after four years to pay him, and you you know,
you turned away like really really good trade offers for him,
and you know, like now this is happening less than
(21:10):
the less than two years later. You know, it's it's
a weird situation.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
I think it goes the saying that he'll be on
some other.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
Team in twenty twenty six and what that looks like
and how they get there. I'm not sure whether they
can trade them, Like I think it'd be difficult to
trade that contract now.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
So he is, he is healthy enough to play, He's
just not showing up.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
Yeah, I mean, like like I don't I don't know
exactly where his health is, but I but I can
tell you this, like for a fact, like they thought
like okay, like and I'm talking like a few months ago,
like their target was like week nine, week ten, week eleven,
somewhere in there, that that.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
That was when he was going to be back on
the team, but back in the roster.
Speaker 6 (21:54):
And if you just look at the designation they gave him,
you know what I mean, Like, I mean, the things
they did were in preparation to have him back for
the back half of the season. And obviously that that
hasn't happened.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
And it's not like this is a team that's not.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Winning or couldn't use him.
Speaker 6 (22:11):
You know, they've had a ton of injuries, like at
the receiver.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
Position early in the year they were without Kittle.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
They you know like they didn't they They've had Pearce.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
All in and out of the lineup. They've had to
you know.
Speaker 6 (22:23):
Go back and get different guys. And Kendrick Bourne was
playing like a major role in the team for a
while there. So like, I it's not like they don't
need them.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
It's not like they're not contending, you know, but you.
Speaker 6 (22:36):
Know, obviously that relationship is prayed to a point where
it looks like it's it's well.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Beyond the point of no return.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
It like it just it kind of feels like the
it almost feels like the Trey Lance, the the trading
of the picks to move up and take Trey Lance,
and you know, it was almost like one of the
reports was that, you know, Kyle Shanahan wanted Mac Jones,
it was John Lynch who wanted Trey Lance. And this
feels like it was John. It was John Lynch who
wanted to resign. You can give him that deal. And
(23:05):
Kyle Shannan was kind of like, I don't know, man,
like it just it feels like Kyle Shannan's not been
on board with this from the jump.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
Yeah, Kyle really liked that you as a player, Like
I know that like I you know, I.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
Think that there's he's always been.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
A little bit of a different guy, you know, Like,
so you manage that as long as he's producing for you.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
The I'm with you the.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
Like, I think it kind of like got to the.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
Point maybe it's it's gotten to the point where it
went from tolerable to feed up.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
If that makes sense, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
Like, you know, I think they've they've always been maybe
like dealing with a little bit extra there.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
And you know, but again.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
Like he's a guy who, like, if you talk about him.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
As a player, you know who he is, Like he's
a really good fit for what they want to do.
And you know, when he's been at his best, he's
been really productive for them, you know, so it'll be
interesting to see what happens with him.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
You know, have season.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
But they're at ten and four right now. It's pretty
amazing when you consider they you know, went a stretch
without their quarterback.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
They want to stretch without Kittle.
Speaker 6 (24:08):
They've lost Fred Warner and Nick Bosa for the year.
I mean, they've just had like brutal injury luck and
that's on top of this whole situation, and somehow they're
ten and four, and it looks like they're headed for
the playoffs. And you know, we got that big NFC
West game tonight, and like I I think a lot
of people are forgetting that the Niners are sitting there
(24:28):
one game behind those two.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Yeah, it's been a really good year. Get them on
ex at Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist
at the MMQB, and he joins us every single Thursday.
AB thanks as always. We appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
You guys got the Hurricanes or Aggis on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
I'm leading to Miami, you know what, I'm gonna go
to Miami.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Just be going to Miami too.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Yeah, I just I want to see just tradition. I'd
like to see Miami, you know, making make another deep
run and go deep in.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
The Miami Ohio statement in the Cotton Bowl.
Speaker 6 (25:01):
Then that'd be good.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
I think A and m is going to thump Miami.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Jeez you do yeah, Okay, okay, sticks excep there it is.
That's that's the pick. I mean. Meanwhile, you and you
and the Buck as you sit back and get ready
to win another yeah.
Speaker 6 (25:18):
And hopefully hopefully hopefully, well, hey Mary, we don't talk
next week.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Same to you, a B. We appreciate it, man, I
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Speaker 3 (25:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
The first college football playoff game Friday, Alabama Oklahoma. So
that's gonna be uh, that's gonna be fun.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
I mean you.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Remember a home game for the first time in state
college there it was nice, was cold, I think Eric
Dickerson said, because they were playing SMU right. Eric Dickerson
was there and he was like, man, we got the
hell out of there, Like this is not going well.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
It didn't start off well, and it didn't it didn't
go well and it didn't well.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Yeah, we're good here. See guys, everybody have a good time.
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But too cold to get your ass whipped like that.
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Puka Nakua is going to be playing later on tonight
in what is uh this is actually a great game.
Like there's been a lot of complaints and you know
previously about well, you know what what sort of game
we get in? You know, is anybody interested in this
crap that they roll out from time to time. But
they landed on a good one because a lot of
times they'll schedule these out and you have no idea
(29:37):
whether or not. You know, these teams are going to
be good. You hope that they're good. You hope the
game means something, especially this late in the year when
the schedule comes out. So we got the Rams and
we got the Seahawks could determine the number one seed
in the NFC. This is in Seattle. Later on tonight.
The Seahawks are a point and a half favorite. It's
kind of the best two teams in the NFC. Yeah,
(30:00):
like Seattle's Seattle's defense is real and Sam Darnold, I mean,
he hasn't played as well down the stretch, but yeah,
you would, you would, you would think that this would
be a game that would get him real fired up
based on the fact that not only is an important
game for the team, but also for him because he's
had some low moments against the Rams, especially recently, Like
(30:23):
you know the game earlier this year, you know, Seattle
was was down big, still had an opportunity to win
that game, but missed a field goal late. Like it
Just so, this is shaping up to be a really
good game. Puka Nakua, he was on Aiden Ross's stream,
and there's some stuff out there that maybe he was,
you know, doing a celebration that's like an anti Semitic celebration,
(30:47):
like that was sort of the spell. Really it's going on. Yeah,
there's that out there. I don't I'm not well versed enough.
Yeah I won't either, but at least you know, just
it's part of the story that's making the rounds of
some people. In my y, not mine either, But we
can mow.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
This one because Phoka Nakua mowed the hell out of
a law that I need to mob.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Yeah, yeah, you will mess with another one. He's saying
that NFL officials that they they want some of that shine.
Let's take a listen, because there's just some of the rules,
aren't that.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
Like, these guys want to be These guys are lawyers
and relative they want to be on TV too, brothers
like the game, you don't think he's.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Touching his friends and.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
The group chat like yo, you guys just saw they Sunday.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Night football like that. That wasn't p I like what
I called it was. Seriously. I mean, these guys are
noble human beings too.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
So that's such an immature conversation. I mean, whether it's
true or not, I don't care. I don't really care,
because I mean, a referee is a referee, Like you're
always going to have built in personalities that are exposed,
and those are referees, you know, and it's usually the
white hat that that gets that type of attension. But
who cares like that? That's a corny It's a corny conversation.
(32:03):
It's a corny conversation. It's also like, bro, we're browing
out right now. Let me tell you that like these lawyers,
they want to be seen. They're in their groups as
you know they are, Joe. It's like they're like, look, man,
check me out on Sunday night, but we got a
Thursday night.
Speaker 6 (32:20):
Gay.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
Look watch, I'm gonna throw up. I'm gonna throw up
our set when we out there, You're gonna see me
make a And.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
I would agree with you. It's a it's a cornball conversation.
Is but you know, the NFL is not gonna be
happy about this, you know, because I don't know if
it's a big deal. Well okay, but if you have
a player saying officials are the worst. They're just making
calls so they can get on TV. And with the
you know, gambling and everything that's been infused into the league,
like the NFL is probably looking at this going eight.
(32:48):
The last thing we want is for people to think
this isn't on the up and up, Like we don't
need any more of this crap. We don't need any
anybody else, you know, leaving leaving it open to you know,
the possibility that this stuff's not on the up and up.
We see what's happened in the NBA. We don't want
that to happen here. So I don't know if this
results in him getting fined.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
I don't think. I don't think he was. I don't
think what he was saying was coherent enough for it
to be of consequence.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
What do you mean by that?
Speaker 4 (33:16):
Like it was just like you just you're you're poking
fun at the referees. There was no real substance to
what he was saying, you know, there was no real
like uh like valid information connected to it. Like it
wasn't like he was whistleblowing or anything like that. He
was just stating a bro a bro opinion, like bro,
(33:39):
they just want to be seen. Like it's like when
you're talking about like somebody you know, like oh, man,
isn't he a worse Like yeah, man, like god Lee,
like Kenny just wash and brushes teeth like I mean, gosh,
he stinks Like I almost feel like he wants us
to smell like he. All they were doing was like
just like Cornie Capp and that's really all it was.
(34:02):
It wasn't like he was like look, man, I go
out there, I get held on every play.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
I'm not able to run my routes the way I
need to run my routes. I'm at the top of
my route. They're grabbing me, they're holding me. I can't
get to the ball the way I.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Need to get to the ball.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
And it's all because these schmucks are out here not
making the proper calls. They're the worst. Like he didn't
like directly cite things in his little rant, So I
don't see it being of any consequence. But it will
be fun to watch if they give him PI calls
or not. It will be fun to watch to see
(34:38):
if they allow you know, cause if I'm if, if
I'm the other side, if I'm Seattle, I'm coming into
the game aggressive against Pook and the cool I'm not
trying to be cooked.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
I ain't trying to be the hook and the key
a zebra. They if you know, listen, just see you know,
I expect you guys.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
If you're out here for clout, you clout chasing man
him right here, i'ma be right there like before the
snot him right here, mister referee. You see hook in
the Coolah, Yeah, I call him hook in the cool
like that yeah, yeah, yeah, and when he cooking.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
You you know you gotta put that. Yeah, yeah, I might,
I might. I might have one.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
While I watch him play tonight little hook in the
cool plus. You dig what I'm saying? What's the plus?
Oh it's plus, is there?
Speaker 6 (35:23):
Well?
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Yeah, I got a plus one in there.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Yeah plus.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
That's ok.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
It's a bad man majama that lands down on that
sha for.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
People that don't know there's you know many who go
to hookah bars bars got one at his house. Yeah,
you get it down.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
Yeah, I don't go hookah hookah light. You go hookah
light at them hookah bars. You get it at the
crib by l a spot. You gotta get hookah plus.
And there's no tobacco, and yes there is there a tobacco. Yeah,
just flavored tobacco.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Flavor shesha.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
Yeah yeah, it's flavor flavored tobacco. But when you go
hookah hookah plus, that's flavored tobacco plus flavored.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
With the green water. Yeah, bruh, come on, move, come
on with you. You're going to call them green as
it or what?
Speaker 4 (36:21):
I don't know, I want it to. Yeah, I was
thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Lorena ruined it for you. Yeah, she did put the
pressure out.
Speaker 8 (36:32):
I have my outfit picked out on everything.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Haven't you been to call them a couple of times?
You liked it?
Speaker 4 (36:39):
You went with Coop, didn't you? Yes?
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Yees? Among other people huh yes? What was it like?
Did you like it?
Speaker 6 (36:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Was it like the sphere?
Speaker 8 (36:51):
I haven't been in the sphere? You said that was
really cool though, But that's the same type of idea.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
That did right there.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
Man. First of all, I thought I was in Epicot Center, right,
you've ever been in It's like everything's wide open, and
it like it feels like very industrial and cold, like
you're in space. That's how it felt going up to
the theater. Then you walk into theater. Oh god, I
have like height, like like like elevation issues, like I
(37:21):
lose my I lose my balance when I'm high because
I'm super super afraid of heights, so I started losing
my balance. You come into the arena the sphere, and
is there more than one? Or is it only one?
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Only one sphere?
Speaker 6 (37:35):
Right now?
Speaker 4 (37:35):
Yeah? You know I'm saying is there more than one?
Like like cosm?
Speaker 1 (37:39):
No? No, no, is there more than there's more than one?
Speaker 4 (37:41):
Cosm? There's one in Texas. I'm saying, is there more
than one theater like that you can walk into?
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
I think maybe it's only one. Maybe it's only one.
It's one big one, yeah, just one biggest Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
Man, that thing was over your head, Like it was
over your head. So you're watching the movie in front
of you, right, but then the movie expands. Once they
expand unto you watching the movie, it's the whole thing.
It's all over top of you. So you're looking up
and literally and at certain points in the movie, they
would drop things like you know they had like the
(38:15):
limited apples. They dropped the apples out of out of
the ceiling and you got to catch them and stuff
like that, which I think is cool. You can't buy
the apples, they're just dropped during the show. You got
to catch an apple. I had to rough an old man.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Did you get I roughed him.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
I had to be I had to be my baby girls.
I had to be my baby girl's hero. I hit
the dude on I hit the dude on the shoulder.
It was like, hey, old man, let me get that
apple off you. You don't need that thing. He looked
at me. I was like, I need that apple. He
gave it to me too. I'm come to find out.
(38:54):
Come to find out, there was an apple right under me.
There was an apple right under me. Didn't see it
because we're in the movies. So I was able to
give him the apple back. But the sphere is cold banged,
So yeah, the cosm is like that, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
The UFC event they had did it? UFC note chab,
you're at the sphere b unbelievable. I would go see
an event there. Yeah, like that. I would go see it,
like a live sporting event at that place. Really cool. Crazy.
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Time to find out what's left Town's incredible. Here's the
left over hy Larai, Ray, what do we got?
Speaker 8 (40:48):
I just love the holiday season, giving, gift giving, It's
so fun, and Luca is just it's his own little
Santa Claus. Okay, he always does the most kindest gestures.
When La on fire, he donated five hundred thousand dollars
to the relief efforts, and now he gifted the whole
Lakers team, their op staff and even the broadcasters e
(41:10):
bikes over one hundred e bikes tweet Nice.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Good for him. Why don't they do that for us?
Speaker 8 (41:16):
I don't want some e bikes?
Speaker 1 (41:18):
Yeah, you'll get the strain that saved me so much
on Gasmine, which is a.
Speaker 4 (41:23):
Knee bike like three grand Let's save you so much money.
Where are you driving an e bike too?
Speaker 6 (41:28):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (41:28):
Can I take it on the freeway?
Speaker 4 (41:30):
No?
Speaker 1 (41:31):
Yeah? What's top speed on an e bike?
Speaker 4 (41:34):
I don't know, Probably like forty forty five maybe.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
Hot speed, top price? What do we got, Patrick? You
don't need to do that. You don't need to go
on the highway with no e bike. I want to
get wherever I can the fastest. I'll ride it like
a motorcycle. You could do it locally, like you could
rock locally. Yeah, bike Leans. Okay, so it goes from
as low as twenty to as high as eighty plus.
It can not all, but it can we fast.
Speaker 4 (41:59):
I'll have you want to get on an e bike
and go eighty miles per hour. God bless good night
at exactly what you deserve.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
For here at Fox Sports. When yeah go bye
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