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Speaker 4 (01:26):
What's up guys.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Hi?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
How was your your holiday? How was your Christmas?
Speaker 4 (01:31):
It was good? Do you guys have a good holiday?
Enjoy it?
Speaker 5 (01:34):
Get them away relax.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
A little bit, did you?
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Yeah? I didn't get away work for the most part.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
You know you got away from work, didn't you?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yeah? I did.
Speaker 6 (01:42):
I took two days they Wendy. Is that getting away?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Okay? Okay, well I take that. Yeah, I was at
home though. What about you? Did you get away or yea?
Speaker 5 (01:52):
In no, I was here. I worked actually on Christmas Day?
Oh okay for a little bit, not long.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Work.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Your big takeaway from the classic we saw last night
between the Bears and the Niners was what.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
Kyles Sana has to be Coach of the Year. It's incredible.
Think about who wasn't playing last night? They have five Okay,
party is not a star of stars. There's a really
good quarterback but if you take their stars off that team,
five top players off that team, Trent Williams has won,
George Kittle's won, Christian McCaffrey, Fred Warner, and Nick Bosa,
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And how many of them were in the lineup last
night once Trent Williams went out one. I mean, it's incredible.
It's absolutely incredible what they've done with that team. And
if they win, uh this week against Seattle, which we
know Sam Darnold's on the road and I don't care
how bad San Francis Goose defenses, They're going to win
that game. Then they win two games in the playoffs,
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and they played the super Bowl at home, which is
absolutely incredible. Now having said that their defense is awful,
but I do think that they get party in that
group gives them a legitimate chance to be a threat
in the post heason, no question about it.
Speaker 6 (03:06):
I gotta say, listen, there's there's no real door prize
or or feel good loss. But this, this this Chicago
Bears team is for real. I mean, could you have
come away from that game last last evening feeling just
as confident about the Bears and a loss as you
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do about maybe the Niners.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
In that win Well.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
I think both their defenses are bad.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
I mean, you know who, Yeah, they can't rush the passer,
and neither one can get to the.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Cock can rush the quarterback.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
And when you play in the playoffs and you can't
rush the quarterback, that's going to be a problem. So
and let's not forget they're an on site kick, boxed
on side kick away from losing that game to Green
Bay last week, and so we would be thinking differently
of them. But I'm more going look, I think Caleb
Williams is taking big strikes. I think Ben Johnson is
a big, big time play caller. I think they can
run the ball. The line's good, They're going to score
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points on offense. But I'm worried about that defense. I mean,
there when you can't rush the passer and most quarterbacks
had all day, I think that's a big problem for.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Both teams going forward.
Speaker 6 (04:10):
Which would you rather have, though, Pete, would you rather
have offense or would you have defense? Because it seems
like you got to make a choice these days. I mean,
you look at the Eagles, you got to choose. Do
you do you want a team that has a defense
that's going to make it make it work, or do
you want to have a team like the Niners or
the Bears that have a offense that can make it work?
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Which one? Which one would be better?
Speaker 5 (04:30):
I'd rather be the Eagles because I think that there's
always a chance that Barkley's going to get it going,
you know what I mean, And that defense is suffocating,
and I think that Barkley can. We've seen him do it,
so I think they can get a god. I just
think the play calling is bad for them, and Jalen
hurkss not play very well.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
But I'd rather be the Eagles.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
I think you have to be able to knock the
other guys quarterback down. It's disaster and I don't see
that for either one of those two teams.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Pete Prisco joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, senior
NFL columns for CBS Sports, CBS Sports HQ analysts. You
can get him on x at Prisco CBS. All Right,
So I mentioned this earlier that I was going to
ask you about it because back in August when you
were doing your training camp tour, uh oh, you were
speaking glowingly about what you saw from the Tampa Bay
Buccaneers and I don't know what transpired halfway through the season.
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But they are a shell of themselves, and they find
themselves still with an opportunity to win at home and
get into the playoffs and probably most likely be a
one and done. What the f is going on in
Tampa Bay with the Buccaneers injuries.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
That team's been decimated.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
You know, they played yesterday without their two starting guards
and without Tristan Wurfs on the offensive line. And I
don't care what Baker Mayfield says.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
He's hurt, he's hurt.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
He got hurt, and it very thinks he got hurt
in the Rams game. I think he got hurt in
the forty nine Ers game and just kind of played
through it. He's not throwing the ball close to what
he was throwing at early in the season. And now
they have their weapons back. It's been one of those years.
They didn't have the offensive line. Early, they had the
wide receivers going in out of the lineup. Now the
wide receivers are all back, the offensive line continues to
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be banged up, and you go to the defensive side
of the ball. You talk about a team that doesn't
rush the pass with that, well, that's them. They went
out and got reddick thinking that they who had joined
Diabi to be able to rush the quarterback with Kanty inside.
Canty's not playing very isn't playing because he's been hurt
all year. The other guys aren't playing well. The secondary
has been giving up a bunch of bus It's not
a good look. And you know, and when they can't
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score offensively, that's a problem because I don't think they're
very good defensively. Now, having said all that, they're playing
a quarterback or crew for fifty four yards last this
past week, fifty four for Ice Young, as they started
calling him in Carolina. He melted yesterday because he was awful,
and so I mean, yeah, did you see that the
teammates because he's been cool at the end of games,
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he's won some games. So they started calling them Ice Young.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Well wait a second, have you identified the next quarterback
on your hit list? Have you Bryce now the guy
you're going to.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Go after he's been on he's been on my list.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
I don't think he's very good.
Speaker 6 (07:05):
I mean, you guys are the same size. I would
think that would be like looking out for him, like sticking.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Up for him.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Well, yeah, I'm in the same size and I'm not
playing quarterback in the NFL for a reason because I
am that size, right, I mean, I don't think he's
very good. And they have a tough situation now because
what do you do with them?
Speaker 6 (07:24):
You're stronger almost, you're built stronger, like you could probably
lift more weights than him though probably.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Yeah, And so I just think that.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
One of those two teams is going into the playoffs.
So if you're at the NFC teams, you want to
be the number five? Would you rather be number five?
The number six or seven?
Speaker 4 (07:39):
For sure? Right?
Speaker 5 (07:40):
You might might be number five than three because you
could go play them.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
You go play one of those two teams on the.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
Road and I can't carry you know, like I know
it's on the road. But you would think that that's
a good pass for you to try and get to
the next round.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Oh yeah, yeah, totally agree.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Speaking of trying to get to the round the first pick.
Speaker 6 (07:58):
Your your Raiders did what everybody thought that they would do,
but even in more impressive fashion than the maybe what
I had originally thought. I didn't think that they'd be
able to lose that badly to a team like the
New York Giants, but they did what what's your Is
it a rap? Is it a rap for Pete Carroll?
Is it a rap for this this coaching staff? Is
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it another one and done?
Speaker 5 (08:22):
I don't know if it is for Pete Carroll, in
large part because I don't know if they can continue.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
To pay head coaches.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
I think the Gruden thing's still in litigation for money
they're paying him. They're still paying what McDaniels, they're still
paying Peers, they're paying they were paying Chip Kelly six
million a year. They're still paying that contract out. How
much can you keep letting go out the door? And
so I don't know if they fire them, but they're
awful and that was a tank job.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
I don't care what anybody they can they can. I
mean the thing they did with with Crosby.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Was terrible and they just looked lifeless. But the problem
with that team is they overvalued Gino Smith, which everybody
in the league did last year. And you know, remember
when the Raiders signed, oh great signing Gino Smith.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Look what he did? Well?
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Do you think Seattle didn't know something when they let
him go?
Speaker 4 (09:13):
And so I think that's their problem. And now they're
in the number.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
One pick spot and they should stay there because they
probably won't win next week. And if they're there, what
do you do you Thante more Fernando Mendozer. In the
battle for the number one pick, one of those guys
has to be the pick of the Raiders, and the
Giants messed up by winning. They could have had the
number one overall pick, and if they had the number
one overall pick, if they truly believe Jackson Darter is
their guy, then they could have used that to trade
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and get a haul picks. And yet they went out
and won the game. So you win, but you lose
for winning.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
In that situation.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Yeah, The Max Crosby story is just it's wild how
obvious it is. They Pete Carroll comes out and says, well,
you know, we took a look at him. He was
hobbling to get on the team bus and we're looking
at him, and you know, we just made the right
call to send him home or to say he's not
going to play. He leaves a facility because he's pissed off.
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And then Max Crosby posts to social media later on
that day him moving around fine, playing basketball, hanging out
with his daughter like everything, like to let everybody know Hey,
this is a tank job. I want to play and
they're not letting me play, Like, I don't know. Do
you think does the NFL look into this if the
Raiders aren't being forthright about his injury and he's at
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home basically saying, look, I'm fine, but they won't let
me play because we're trying to tank so we can
get the first pick, Like, do you think the NFL
looks into this? Because you know the NBA's had problems
with this, but it feels as blatant as you can
get with the Raiders and how they've handled it.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
Well, the problem with looking into it is he probably
has played the last five game six games with a
knee injury, and he probably does need some kind of
procedure on the knee so they can get around it
that way.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
The problem is, did you put the.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Tape on last week when he did play?
Speaker 4 (10:57):
I mean, he was a monster against the Texans.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
He was unblockable, and so how can they justify it
that way? So I get it, but the reality is
is it probably not going to get much of anything
coming back on him in March, part because he probably
does need some kind of procedure done on his leg.
So the reality is he's hurt, he could have played
through it, and they packed, even if they would never
admit it.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Crazy.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
We've had a long conversation about the Stillers and the Ravens.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
It's clearly going to be a big topic this week.
Speaker 6 (11:28):
Because they're going for the divisional title against one another.
Yet the loser will not be in the playoffs. They'll
go home, and for I guess what it's worth. Whichever
team loses, it's got to be considered a hard disappointing
year for that team. And then I think the question
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still remains, is it still considered the same for the
team that advances if they're not successful in the playoffs.
What's your take on the current You know, I guess
state of the Steelers and the Ravens because I feel
like they're very interchangeable conversations with the season, the team
as well as as the coaches.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
You know about ten weeks ago when these two teams
were meriandering through the season and you think one would
get hot and the other one was done and the
other one would get hot. You know, ten weeks ago,
maybe even longer, we said, ah, that division is going
to come down to the final week of the season
when the Steelers play the Ravens and you look at
and people say, what are you talking about, Well, it
always does, and you know what, it will in large
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part because either one of them are very good.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
I mean, if you.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
Look at it, the Steelers without DK Metcalf yesterday couldn't
do anything. And you look at the Ravens. They ran
the ball and ran it right down Green Bay throat
the other day. But their defense is awful right now,
And so you look at it and you go, who's
the better team? Don't I'd say the Ravens would be
the one that could get fired in the playoffs if
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Lamar Jackson is healthy and can turn and he gives
the ball to Henry. But the reality is they're like
the NFC teams. Is anybody not jocking to be the
number five team and go play one of those two
in the playoffs? I mean, I'd rather play them for sure.
So and the other part of that is is Lamar
Jackson playing this week. You know I had the back injury.
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What was it, back, Bruce? You missed the game for
a back bruise, And so that you're starting to hear
rumblings out of Baltimore. That was a story last week
by Mike Preston about how they're tiring of him not
training at the facility and he needs to take better
care of himself. And so I think there's a lot
of stuff at stake in this game. Is it Aaron
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Rodgers last game? It has everything the NFL wants. We
were joking around watching the game yesterday, the Steelers game,
saying well, if the NFL can do anything in their
power to make them lose that game, they would because
they want that game at prime time. That's what they wanted.
They wanted Marquee game and one now they got one.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
So I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
It's going to be ugly football, and I don't think
the team that wins it really can go on to run.
But if you can't to answer me, which one could
possibly go on a run to the two of them,
I would pick the Ravens.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Yeah. Pete Prisco with us here on Fox Sports Rady
for those that aren't familiar, and we talked about this
a little bit earlier, but if you're just joining us.
It was Mike Preston of The Baltimore Son who wrote
an article talking about Lamar Jackson, you know, sources saying,
you know, he stays up late playing video games and
falls asleep during team meetings, and you know he's not.
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You know, they've changed the practice times and John Harborough's
kind of growing tired of it and it's worn out,
it's welcome a little bit like that just feels like,
and I was saying this earlier Pete, that feels like
it's a little bit too specific for it to just
be nothing, that it just was made up at of
thin air. And from what I've heard, you know, Mike
Preston's pretty connected and it's not He's not just making
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stuff up. Even though John Harbord dismisses it. Where does
that report and those details land with you as somebody
who's been in this business a long time.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
Oh, I've known Mike rest in a long time, a
long time, and Mike press is not going to just
make that up. That's not what he is as a
as a journalist. So that he got that from people.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Inside the building, and it obviously.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
Is an issue. Look, you know, Lamar Jackson throws it
in the off season. He comes down to South Florida
down here and throws at parks with his buddies and stuff.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
You can't. You got to be around the facility.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
You got to take care of yourself and and so
that's that's something I've never quite grasped. And you know,
I was talking to Fred. One of the guys told
me Fred Warner of the forty nine ers trains year
round at the facility.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
You know, he doesn't go.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
These guys go to these facilities and LaVar you know
all about them.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
They pay big money to go.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
Train at the you know, these facilities in South Florida
and they get together and work out down there. When
you can stay with your team, train with your own trainers,
take advantage of your your free food and free you
know nutrition, and deal with your nutritionists. Why would you
not do that if you're If you're like Fred Warner, goes,
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drives to the facility every day, works out there, gets
some advice from the trainers, knows what he has to
do to train for his job, and you know, eat
all their food. And these guys leave and go scurry
all over the country and pay big money to go
train with trainers who have no idea what it's like
to train for football. So I don't know, I just
think sometimes we overthink it and Lamar Jackson needs to
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be more focused and stay around that facility more.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Has he done, like has he hit his ceiling?
Speaker 6 (16:28):
Of all the quarterbacks around the league that you would say,
you know what, they had a good run, but maybe
they hit their ceiling, where does where does Lamar Jackson
fall in that category?
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Well?
Speaker 5 (16:40):
His is different in large part because he's improved as
a passer. But we still got to admit the big
part of what he is is his ability to move
around and the threat of him to run and the
threat of him to help open up the run. And
so far since he's been back from his injuries, he
hasn't been able to run.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Like he did.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
He hasn't been he's been reluctant, his speeds have been down.
And so when you take that away from him, what
is he.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
As a quarterback?
Speaker 5 (17:06):
He's a small guy that can make plays in the
pocket and he's gotten better at it, but he's not
great at it unless he's got the threat to run.
And so that's the concern with Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
If I were him, I would.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
Reinvent myself and become a fitness guy who you know
is focused on the football and not playing video games,
if that's indeed true, and and take care of yourself
to stay around the facility and be more more present
with your teammates in the off season and go from there,
because right now the injuries have become a major factor
for him.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
He's not a big guy.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
Let's not forget that.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
He's not a big guy.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
And also, like it seems like he's got the flu
every week, like he like there's a practice he's he's
got the flu. Like I think he's in this like
seven straight Wednesday practices at this point. It just yeah,
it just feels like there's there's a lot going on.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Well, if you have if.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
You're if you're if you're saying you have the flu
and you don't sleep all night because you're up playing
video games, is that right out for you?
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yes? That yeah, that's what you know. Who needs chicken
noodle soup when you can just play you know, Call
of Duty until four?
Speaker 5 (18:06):
And we don't I mean, look, I might press into
a damn good reporter, so I kind of, you know,
I trust his sources on it. But if again, we
don't know if that's true, but if it is, it's
just a bad look for a franchise quarterback. It's just,
you know, is it better that he's out, you know,
getting bombed every night running the streets and getting in trouble. Absolutely,
But the good side of this is if you're staying
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up all night, you're not getting asleep and your habits
aren't great to come in and practice hard every day.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Are the Bills a viable Super Bowl contender?
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Well?
Speaker 5 (18:36):
One good thing that came out of and I don't
know how we take this one good.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Thing they came out of the game on Sunday is
this it's played good defense.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
But is that because they played good defense because the
Eagles thing going offense, but they actually showed up and
played good defense.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
I mean, it's something something has to give there.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
But look, with Josh Allen playing quarterback, of course they're
a viable Super Bowl contender and they can get hot
in the moment, and if their defense can play like that,
sure they are. Now I don't know if they can
or is that just because the Eagles are so bad
on offense right now? They did dominating Do you realize
the Eagles didn't have any yards passing in the second
half none, zero, not one completion. And I think that's
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the second game that's happened for them. And one of
our guys had a stat last night they said this
the first time since they started to keep in that
stat in nineteen seventy eight that a guy hasn't had
completed passes in two games in the same season in
the second half. So you know, but the Bill defense
did show up and play better, and I give them that.
And if they can play good on defense, they're dangerous
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to everybody. We know Cook can run the ball. You know,
Allen can make those plays and down the field and
outside the pocket. So I'd be careful if any team
in the playoffs in the AFC they're saying, oh, Bills
might be, you know, vulnerable, because I don't think you
want to play them.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
In fact, of all the teams that you have.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
A chance to sit at home and get ready to play,
that's the one I wouldn't want to play.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
No, before we let you go, I was done, But
I just kind of thought about this. I never got
your like opinion on DK Metcalf. The dude came out
and held a full out press conference about him not
being a racist or whatever. He's he's sensitive about animal
rights and stuff.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Like that or whatever. But what what's your take on
on that?
Speaker 6 (20:21):
Like him saying his kids are getting you know, threats,
you know, violent threats, you know, all kinds of different
I guess fallout and repercussions from what took place. What's
your you know, what's your take on DK in this
this scenario. What what's your take on the fan like
the interaction of.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
It all the fans of jackass Okay, the fans shut
your shut your mouth. You were trying to get advise
out of him. You wanted that to happen. You wanted
something to happen. And now you're going on a tour,
the publicity tour. You're probably gonna file suit against them
and and go from there. So fans an idiot? Me
Kay's more of an idiot for going over and doing.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
What he did.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
I mean, look what happened to the Steelers yesterday. Technically
you could sit here and say, if the Steelers don't
beat the Ravens on Sunday, But DK Metcalf's stupidity cost
him a playoff birth because they had they had they
had three catches by Scotty Miller yesterday, who led the team.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
And catches by receiver.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
Yesterday they were limited on offense in large part because
dk Metcalff is the guy to stretched the field and
get the ball down of the field. Well, where was
he one playing?
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Because he was so.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Caught up in the moment that he had to go
over there and tug on a fan or slap him
or whatever he did. It's because the guy said something
about him, and so dk Metcalf has to be smarter.
But the fans of Jack asked, he knew what he
was doing. He was trying to get a rise at him.
He did it before, and so that guy's a guy's
a just it's mild to think what he's doing right
now because he's trying to take advantage of the situation.
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He knew what he was doing. It was all calculated.
Chuck your mouth. Look, it's okay to heckle players. I've
done that before. Believe me, back in the day, I
used to heckle like crazy. But don't get to the
point where you're making it personal and the guy's going
to come over and give you a slap. Now, we
don't know what he said, and it doesn't sound like
it was anything racial. You hope like it wasn't but
dk't have to be above that, LaVar. You played the game.
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I'm sure you're plenty of craft that you wanted to
go up in the stands and beat the day, like
to have a guy.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
I've heard some really, really, really bad I told the
story the other day Kansas City one year. It was
it was really really bad, Like it was bad the
things they were saying. To me, It's so bad that
you almost would ask yourself the people in between or
the people beside those people who were saying the viscenities
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that they were saying, why, Like why wasn't something done?
Speaker 2 (22:36):
That's how bad it.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Was, Like, shut up, you idiot. The problem.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
I turned around to look good, good, God.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
Here's the problem, because if you start opening your mouth,
next thing you know, you're in a fight in the stands,
And who the hell wants.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
That, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (22:51):
I'm not letting nobody pull me out of my character
that way. I'm there to perform. I realize it's a
show and we are the actors in the show. I
realized that you know, it's reality television, but nonetheless, you
play yourself in the show.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
So I get it, and I often wonder.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
Why why people are allowed to holler out certain obscenities
the way that they are. Like I did get racial
obscenities hollered at me in that moment in particular, and
a ton of profanity. But you know, I always said
that where they're like, well, how'd you react? How'd you
re act? Turned around at first and it was like
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come on, man, like it's it's a game, like like
are you okay? Then as they kept going on, I
always I did this on the field with players who
would try to get me, but I would do it
with fans too.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
I'd always tell.
Speaker 6 (23:43):
Them their mother, like like if you're calling me all
those obscenities, I'd be like, ah, your mother is or
oh your mother is that, or ah, ah you're talking
about your mom Like I just always that was always
my comeback, and so I didn't take myself too seriously.
So I make myself laugh and like that probably hurt
their feelings or something.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Maybe their mom is sho said you should have said look,
he should have said, look, dude, you're over there. I'm
over here.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
But I guarantee if you were here and I was
right in front of you, you would be saying that
to my face.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
But I don't even I don't even you know, for me,
I didn't even take it. It wasn't that if he
wants violence, it's never been that deep to me.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
That's that's the thing about it.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Like he wants an altercation.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
It doesn't that I.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
Don't because you know why nowadays, you don't have an
altercation somebody ends up there. You don't want any mean
you right?
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Doesn't that? But doesn't that concern you even more? With DK?
Speaker 6 (24:35):
Like you know, if you watch the video, he's standing
there with a police officer. He's standing there talking to
a police officer. He clearly says something that has to
do with this fan because he he finishes the conversation
and then works his way over to the fan. Once
he works his way over to the fan, it's a
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totally it's a total violent like act. It's an AGGRESSI
it back not that I won't say valiant. It's a
very aggressive act. And what it is that he did.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
To go over you don't even go over him. You
gave him what he wanted by going over there first
and foremost, I mean whether he pulled his hair or
hit him or whatever he did to him, you would
that guy, I don't think that was the guy's seat either.
If you look at it, he's down like where there's
a security person behind him. He's standing hanging over the
railing in the aisle. I don't think that's where he
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was sitting.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
And so no one reacted to what the guy said,
so I don't think there was He didn't say anything
crazy out his mouth because.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
He said he was making fun of his first real.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
Name, right, yeah, right, I'm not going like, why are
you going to grab somebody by their hand.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
It's like you remember when when Miles Garrett clubbed Mason
Rudolph over the head with the helmet and then afterwards said,
well there's a racial slur, yelled and nobody heard it,
Like there were people there and nobody heard it, Like
I don't. I don't think he said but the guy.
But that was still like there were people fighting.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
The My hecking back in the day was kind of fun.
Like I remember one time we went to a baseball
game here and we had a few afternoon in the
spring training and the Braves were playing down in Fort
Lauderdale and Ozzie Virgil was a player on the Braves
back then, and he struck out and he was walking
over and I'm like, hey, Ozzie, you know any realtors
(26:18):
in Richmond, because that's where they're triple agents.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
That's rupeete. Yes, I was trying to make the team.
You gotta clown them like that. You ought to be
ashamed of yourself. Hey, let me ask you this before
we let you go. We're going to be talking to
you next Monday. It's Black Monday yearly tradition. That's not
good news for coaches in the NFL. Do you have
one or two potential surprising coaching casualties that could take
(26:42):
place on Monday?
Speaker 5 (26:44):
I don't know if surprising the surprising is the word.
But you know what, if the Bucks don't make the playoffs, Yeah,
there's one. I mean, if they don't make the playoffs,
I think Todd Bowles could be in trouble, even though
he got a contract extension last year. And then you
know what happens with Zach Taylor. I think that's another
one to keep an eye on as well. You know,
they keep saying that they're not going to fire him,
(27:04):
but we'll see. Yeah, So I think those are two.
You know what happens with McDaniel. They wanted to keep them.
He made a little run, went rotten for a couple
of weeks anyone again, So I think ultimately.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
They might decide to keep him.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
The bad dues with that, though, they're going to hire
a general manager. So if you hire a general manager,
you're stuck with Mike McDaniel as your guy, at least
for a year. I mean that that's that's a tough
situation to take over a job unless you're one of
his guys. And then the reality is, if you're hiring
a guy that likes Mike McDaniel, you're not hiring might
not be hiring the best guy for the organization to
run it. So I think they have a problem in
Miami if they keep them.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Get him on X at Prisco CBS. He's Pete Prisco,
senior NFL columnists for CBS Sports, CBS Sports HQ analyst.
Always a good conversation here on a Monday, Pete. We
appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Happy, where's Brady h Come on, don't do that, Pete,
I don't know. Don't don't draw attention to that. Come on, Pete,
all right? Ask him?
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So we've been talking this Ramstein.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Are they liked worshippers man? Are they like the germ
of the circle type? Dude? No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
And actually some of their stage acts are are very erotic.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
They do some weird stuff.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
It's a great live show. I've seen them live before.
They're fantastic. But it's i'll show you stuff. It's very awkward.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
But the burlesque type stuff, I'll shay some stuff, some
stuff that wouldn't be appropriate nowadays, So I'll put it
that way.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Yeah, but the singer is actually a poet. It so
even though it sounds like that, make it all makes sense. Well,
even though it sounds like he's angry because of his voice,
he's not really Like a lot of his lyrics are
more poetry than they would be considered say violent.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Interesting. Yeah, just gonna wrap it up in a little
bit of violent sounding music.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
That's it, well, wouldn't you?
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Speaking of violence? Seahawks Niners concrete, see grows through the
concrete with no grass Seahawks.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
I don't do that grass.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Seahawks Niners winner take all in the NFC West coming
up this weekend where Seattle's gonna go at San Francisco.
Speaker 6 (31:41):
They don't have it for the Seahawks. Man, it's been
a great story. It's been a great feel good story.
You cannot survive in a league where you don't have
you pee put it the best out of five main guys,
you had one playing last night, four or five you
had one playing.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
How many will be back?
Speaker 6 (32:04):
I guess I hear that the tight end will be back,
Kittle will be back.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Yeah, he was a game. I'm certain.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
I'm certain Trent will be back too. But I mean
that was a soft that was a soft tissue injury.
It looked like a hamstring. You're not going to He's
not going to be good for another three four weeks,
like so you're dealing with that potentially being an issue
the rest of the way. As good as this Seattle
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team is and as balanced as they are, I mean,
it was a close one this week. They had a
close one, But I just I think I think their
ability to run the ball they're playing football like old
school Seattle Seahawks, is the best way I can put it. Yeah,
(32:52):
they're playing really really aggressive defense. Their defense is the catalyst.
They run the ball aggressively, run the ball fair really well,
really well. And Sam Darnold is not doing anything to
hurt them. I don't think he's playing at the star
level that maybe people want to put out there for him,
(33:13):
you know, in terms of what led to him getting
to Seattle from from Minnesota and Jackson.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Smith and Jasta He's to be offensive player of the
Year at this point.
Speaker 6 (33:23):
I just I just don't I don't see San Fran
being able to Jerry rig this one. They can't fudge
this one. You know how they say fudge it. Yeah,
sometimes you gotta fudge it. I don't see that taking place.
I mean, a divisional leader is a divisional leader. I
don't see there being any type of emotional like the
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Rams versus the Niners and the connection between McVeigh and Shanahan.
I just don't see there being anything that keeps the
Seattle Seahawks from winning this game.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
I just don't not out coached any of those things. Now.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Brock did talk after last night's game about the opportunity
to get that one seed in the NFC, and ed
this to say.
Speaker 8 (34:08):
Obviously, we're thankful to be in this position, but I've
said this before, it's just been one of those kind
of years where it's like you have to focus on
just the next day, the next man up, finding a
way to win each Sunday, and then at the end
you can look up and see where you're at. And
so for us to be in this position is really cool.
We're all grateful for it, but at the same time,
we have to go do something about it and gotta
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watch the film get better and go execute and win.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
So it'll be a short week. It's the Saturday Night
main event on coming up this week, so that that'll
be played on Saturday night. That'll be the second of
that doubleheader on Saturday, and so you've got that short week.
And right now, the Niners on DraftKings are a point
and a half favorite. So what that is saying is
that on a neutral field, Seattle's the better team. Like
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that's you know, the one and a half point favorite
is factoring in home field advantage and whatnot. But I'm
with you, and I also look at it if just
defensively of the two who could make real noise in
the postseasons.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Yeah, like that. That's that's kind of where I Seattle
is a dangerous team.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Man.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
If you're if you're San Fran and you can't rush
the quarterback and you give Sam Donald and Sam Donald
time back there, like he's he's got the ability to
pick you apart. That's why I look at.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
It and I go.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
I I think I think Seattle is probably the right
side to be on here. And I say that and
being completely wrong about the Seahawks. I think I probably
had him finishing last this year, I think, if I
if I remember correctly, But you know, they they go
on the road, and they play well on the road.
I think since Mike McDonald's been there, they've been tremendous
(35:49):
on the road. They've only lost a couple of times
on the road. So I this feels like a good
spot for Seattle. But that's gonna be a fun game
man Saturday night, as the as the Marquee game marque
MANI in the NFL, gonna be a fun one.
Speaker 6 (36:02):
I think it'll be fun the rest of the way,
you know, because everything matters, all the games that are
played now pretty much all that, all that that we're
going to be paying attention to. I should say those
games matter.
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You would hope it's on the road, but you would
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all time.
Speaker 9 (38:02):
I have been collecting stories all weekend, and then yesterday
I was like, am I even on two Pros This week.
I don't think I am, but I do have you
today and tomorrow. So that's that made me a little excited,
just a smidgeon. Okay, I want to get into this though.
I thought. This weekend Rick Flair got asked to do
a cameo request for a couple of fans who wanted
them to him to congratulate them on their happy marriage.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Well, listen to what Rick Flair had to say, now
getting married?
Speaker 10 (38:29):
Oh my god, why would you get married? Did the
worst possible commity?
Speaker 4 (38:37):
Good news?
Speaker 10 (38:38):
Because as the day get married, fifty percent of everything,
it's hers.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
I don't care how termol she is.
Speaker 10 (38:49):
Stay her girlfriend. It's familiar, boy. Why then the best
of luck Magin diamonds are forever and snow in the
Red Flair.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
And I thank god, brother, I'm a diamond.
Speaker 10 (39:15):
I'm forever. I've overstayed my welcomer.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
And my name is Red Flair. I mean his liver
still works. I know that he was a little frat
right there.
Speaker 6 (39:32):
Bit he was sauced, but he was, but he was
keeping it all the way one hundred from the hip though.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Well, I think he's on. I think he's had four
marriages and he's lost badly on all of them, from
my understanding.
Speaker 6 (39:44):
So he's telling me from experience that that it's like
he feels as though that doesn't work the way that
maybe people maybe think that it should work or I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Yeah that was. I'm gonna be careful because I'm married.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
I'm not listening.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Okay, let a fly.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Hey buddy, don't do it.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Hey buddy, don't do it right. Hey, he gonna go.
I gonna say he's right, but I'm gonna just say,
don't do it.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
He's right.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Just keep having fun, man, Like, why do you gotta.
Speaker 6 (40:17):
Go change and stuff? Like, oh the good is getting good? Well,
maybe you've hit your sailing. They had the time to
move on. Do not do not run towards misery. Okay,
I'm so happy away from it. Yeah, I'm so happy.
Let's get married.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Like what leads you to that conclusion? Yeah, building's on fire,
I'm gonna run in. No, you're not gonna go run away.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Yeah, listen, it's a guy with experience in vast knowledge.
He knows what he's talking about.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
He's no fire man, he's half in the bag.
Speaker 9 (40:49):
Enjoy your Monday.