October 18, 2024 • 37 mins
Maxx Crosby’s comments spark speculation about his frustration level with the Raiders following Davante Adams departure. Fireman Ed calls shenanigans on MetLife Stadium phasing him out. Jamal Adams’ career seems to be a flash in the pan. Plus, Lee’s Leftovers.
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Yeah.
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But there is no point during the course of this
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in serracha at this time of the morning.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
And that's what they they're doing in the control.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Like Larina's got a plate. I am sick of you
airing us out, Jonas. You can smell it down the hall.
Speaker 6 (03:20):
Yeah, and it smells delicious.
Speaker 7 (03:23):
It's five in the morning, with a side of chocolate
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Speaker 4 (03:27):
Good five for the morning.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
I get eggs, you know, a couple, couple of pieces
of bacon, maybe some flap judge it.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Why are you judging them?
Speaker 4 (03:40):
You eat?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
You eat noodles at this time in the morning with
seracha caked on it and chocolate.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
I don't eat anything at this time of the morning.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (03:50):
Yeah, the definition of leftovers definitely is once again, I
actually am a vampire. So this is dinner time for me.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Your logic, your time frame logic. I just can't. I
don't understand it.
Speaker 6 (04:05):
It confuses me too.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
It's okay, yeah, so you view this as dinner. Yes,
and I had breakfast when I woke up at seven
pm last night. Okay, all righty is what it is?
Speaker 5 (04:19):
All right?
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Well, the only thing worse than that was a football
game last night between the Denver Broncos and the New
Orleans Saints. New Orleans stinks. Yeah, they're banged up and
all that, but you know, they've it just kind of
turned into what I think the projection was before the
season from a lot of people that you know, they're
going to need a lot to try and to try
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and be a legitimate threat in the NFC, and they
don't have it at Denver surprisingly finds themselves over five
hundred seven games into the season, they're three and one
on the road, a bow Nicks doing enough to win games.
They ran the football, they played good defense. It feels
like Denver, though, you feel good about things because at
least there's sort of an upward trajectory when it comes
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to the organization and where they're at. Meanwhile, in Las Vegas,
same division, two different situations, they just traded away DeVante Adams.
DeVante Adams is gone. He's with the New York Jets.
Weird that there hasn't been any sort of hinting at
maybe tampering or anything like that when it comes to
that deal getting done, But nonetheless, DeVante Adams is now
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with the Jets. They will be featured on Sunday Night
Football against these stillers. DeVante adams hamstring is apparently healed
up pretty quick on the flight over to Yeah, it's weird,
like it's just like the fastest healing of a hamstring
injury in the history of the league. The Raiders, on
the other hand, they're they're not good and Max Crosby
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is the other superstar there in Las Vegas. He has
been very loyal to the organization. He has said he
does not want to go anywhere recently, like he said,
I'm not interested. You know, have this tattooed on me.
I'm here for life. I don't want to go anywhere else. Well,
maybe the DeVante Adams trade kind of uh sparked some
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interest and maybe a different outcome to his career. Because
this was Max Crosby this week talking with the media.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
I'm not here to rebuild. I'm here to win.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
So you know, I don't know whatever that means, but yeah,
I'm here to win now and wherever I'm gonna be,
I'm I'm gonna be here to win.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
So that's all I matters to me. Oh boy, bar
wherever I'm gonna be, Yeah, it's uh not going to
be rebuilding all my time. Hey, time is limited.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
By the way.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
He's got to be completely worn out by the bag
of craft that he's had to deal with in Las Vegas.
I mean, you talk about a guy who came in
the league, like, imagine you're Max Crosbie. You come in
the league and you're trying to make it right. You're
just trying to make it. You take it in the
fourth round and out of Eastern Michigan and you're thinking
to yourself, all right, I gotta work my ass off.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
I'm a middle round pick if I want to make
it in the league.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
And then you get to the league and the first
season he's there is the Antonio Brown year where Antonio
Brown burns his feet in a cryou chamber, makes a
video like complains about a helmet, like you know, has
a meeting with the team, and then decides to air
the video message. And the conversation you have with John Gruden.
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He's got his own video team, Hard Knocks all that,
Like that's your first introduction into everything. You feel like
you guys are heading in the right direction. Then the
John Gruden mess happens. You give Rich Pisaccia the job
as the interim coach. You guys go to the playoffs.
You lose in a close, competitive game at Cincinnati on
the road in the playoffs. The same year the Bengals
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went to the Super Bowl. They move on from Rich Pisaccia.
You bring in DeVante Adams, You bring in Josh McDaniels.
Josh McDaniels doesn't work, He's got to go. Antonio Pierce
sticks around after you bet Derek Carr and you cut him,
and then you get into this season, DeVante Adams gets traded.
(08:08):
Max Crossy's looking around going, what the hell's going on?
Oh and by the way, Tom Brady just became an owner.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Dude. He's been at league five years. That's a lot.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
That's a long time for his position.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Look at some point, though, are you looking around, going, dude,
can I just get some stability? Like I'm not asking
for a whole lot? Can I just get Can I
just know what the plan is? Because it feels like
in Vegas they've had fifteen different plans since he's been
there with the Raiders.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
It's a lot, man, It's a lot. That's a lot
to contend with. It's a lot to deal with when
you're trying to build a legacy of greatness, and you know,
give him, give him a ton of credit for still
being able to continue to focus in on just being
a master of his craft and what it is that
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he's able to accomplish. But it's like almost hits me
as though, like they're setting the stage for tom Brady
to build this team the way he wants to build it. Yep,
Like that's that's like I just feel like all the
indications are there, Like the way they walk that man
(09:19):
into that building. Did you see the video of it?
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Oh yeah, there's like three hundred employees, bro.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
And the way he looked when he walked in, like yep,
I'm about to turn this mother out right, Like that's
he just had a certain look to him, Like it
wasn't a oh thanks for having me, like I'm happy
to be here type of look. It was like the
conquering lion had had shown up, Like whatever it is
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he has in his mind that he's going to do.
I think I think what's taking place is this this
organization is preparing for Tom Brady to tom Brady eyes
the Las Vegas Raiders.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Tear it down and rebuild it.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Which is interesting that coming into the topic and the segment,
it's about Max Crosby not wanting to do that very thing.
So how does that work?
Speaker 1 (10:23):
I mean, if you're going to move on from Max Crosby,
like sooner rather than later, it's probably better like get
as much as you can for him. Some people have
kind of thrown out the idea of maybe the Detroit Lions.
Obviously he played at Eastern Michigan.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
Brady threw that out yesterday. Yeah, like some people, Brady
threw it out.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
It's been kicked around by others.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
Well, Brady threw it out on our show. They stole it. Well,
if they kicked it around others, they were listening.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
See, I'm going to go with them in this regard
based on his behavior earlier in the show.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
That's the way I'm going to take it here.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
To defend himself.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
But like there is the thought that okay, you could
you know, potentially get some something big in return for
Max Crosby before the trade deadline if somebody was desperate enough,
like Detroit. But it does feel like they're at a
point where what's the plan. And it feels like we're
closer to a rebuild than we are actually contending. So
(11:21):
let's just go that direction. Like if you already traded
away DeVante Adams, and I can understand why you'd want
to keep a foundational piece like a Max Crosby, but
you know he's not getting any younger. And if he's
already frustrated and doesn't want to go through another rebuild,
why not move on now and you can get the
most you can for him. I mean, he's only twenty seven,
he's in his prime. Like, make the move now, Like
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why even Like if Tom Brady's going to take the
reins and just do this, and whether he hires Belichick
as the coach, if there's a coaching change, or if
he goes with Mike Rabel, who's out there, who's you know,
a friend of his, like whatever this is. If Brady's
just going to take this and do what he wants
with it, why not you know, get as much as
you can in return for your best players. Max Crosby
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is now your best player on your team, and then
go that direction.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
That's what it feels like to me.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
If you're rebuilding and that's the direction you're heading in
and your star player is making it known they don't
want to be a part of a rebuild. They're ready
to win. Now, then I think your logic is sound.
I think it's definitely sound too to kick the tires
around on if you make that move or not at
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this point, I think that that would be just a
gut wrenching, heart, heart torn out of your chest plate
move if you're a if you're a real you know,
Raiders fan. But that's where that's where the game is now.
The game is you know, it's not loyal to the players.
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The teams aren't loyal to the players, and and so
if that's what's going to happen, I mean, it sounds
it just seems like the stage is set for it
to happen.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Let me ask you this, all right, just as somebody
who was with an organization that there was a lot
of turnover and a lot of dysfunction and a lot
of just chaos all around you at some point, because you,
like Max Crosby, even in the midst of all that stuff,
you guys were able to have great runs, Pro Bowls
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all of that. At some point. Are you just like,
aren't you just exhausted?
Speaker 5 (13:32):
Dude?
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Can I just it's like a relationship that doesn't work,
and you spend more time trying to make it work
than actually enjoying it.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
Like you know what type of relationship it's like. It's
like you come into a relationship as a positive person,
but you're dealing with a negative person, and so you're
you're in You're in your time. You're trying to out
positive them while they are trying to out negative you.
(14:01):
And then you just get to that point where you're
just like you have been negative for so long and
your negativity has warned me down so bad. There's two
things that can happen. Either I can go into being
negative with you and start living a negative lifestyle so
that we can just be negative to one another and
(14:23):
be on the same page. Or I get tired of it,
you know, you get tired of of the negativity and
the relationship and you want out, like or you get
out And I wonder where Max Crosby is with you know,
his relationship with you know, with the Raiders, is it
(14:46):
a he's bringing positive and they're bringing negative, and he's
looking at it from the perspective of I'm just going
to become negative with you or my positivity that I've
brought to this place has not been what it's needed
to be, and I need to take this positivity elsewhere
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where it can be properly admired and reverenced and utilized.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's gotta be frustrating.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Man.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Well listen, uh, you know, maybe maybe they'll figure it
out against the Rams this weekend.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
You know, that'll be a fun one.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
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Speaker 1 (16:07):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Here on Fox
Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you coming up
in less than twenty minutes from now, we are going
to have a Friday edition of Lee's Leftovers. God only
knows what's going to be involved in Lee's Leftovers. Here
on Fox Sports Radio, Fireman Ed the sow bad has
been for the New York Jets, all right. Fireman Ed
(16:30):
says that there's a problem, all right, So he took
to his Instagram account because we were talking about it.
They seemingly showed him on the Monday night football broadcast
and I thought everything was fine, We're all good here
all as well.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Apparently not.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
He was pissed off and rolled out before.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Yeah, like there was.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
They've they've had kind of a contentious relationship there between
Fireman Ed and the Jets. Now he took to his
Instagram count recently and apparently there's a little bit of
an issue inside the stadium there.
Speaker 8 (17:04):
Last night, in particular, we scored a touchdown and normally,
as a tradition, we're always put on the screen.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
Me, Scott and Jetman are put on a screen to do.
Speaker 8 (17:13):
The jet chant and get the crowd going, which is
a staple in Jetlife stadium. Also on a defensive end,
which is the most important. Normally they will put us
on the screen to get the crowd going. It gives
it more of a widespread experience for the fans to
see and we can get the defensive chant going. But
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something's going on in the jet production team over in
Jetlife Stadium. I don't know exactly what's going on, but
they're phasing us out, and I'd like to know. If
somebody knows anything, please let me know, because it's evident
that it's happening and it needs to stop because we
need home field advantage, that's what we have, and we
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need to keep it going.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
So something's going on. Please let me know if you
know something. Diance a lot go.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Jets, all right, So that was for anybody wondering, that
was a fireman d not Vinnie at a pizza parlor
in the corner of it.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
It was very venous though.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Now there's only one way that would make this story
even better is.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
That people who were phasing them out just disappear forget
about it.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Or if it was Aaron Rodgers who was behind this too.
Speaker 9 (18:30):
That would be sweet like that, Oh my god, that
would be so Like you mentioned Aaron Rodgers, like, you
know what, I'm not happy with the changes here.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
There's one more thing we need done.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
What is it, ed, get rid of those jets fans.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
We got to get rid of Fireman d That would
be sweet man.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
Gotta get rid of jet Man.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
By the way, did you ever meet the hog Ats
when you were playing in Washington?
Speaker 5 (19:04):
Okay? And I met the Chief?
Speaker 1 (19:06):
All right, So would you would you explain? Would you
explain the hog Ats and and chief? Because I feel
like the hog Ats were way ahead of their time.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
That would be.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
Ahead of their time? Oh yeah, that'd be grown ass
men dressing up as grandmoms with with like bonnets on,
with pig noses. That was the hog Ats.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Like, who the hell started that?
Speaker 5 (19:36):
Lee?
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Would you look at like, who started the hog Ats?
Whose idea was it? Hey, let's dress up like grandmothers
and wear pig noses and show up to a Washington game.
What's like is because of the offensive line, they were
called the hogs? Is that is that.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
The origin of it?
Speaker 5 (19:50):
Yes? That's correct? Like that?
Speaker 1 (19:54):
I mean nowadays you know that's you know, you can
find that. You'd probably find that in the Olympics. Lee,
what do we what do we?
Speaker 8 (20:00):
Well?
Speaker 7 (20:00):
It is attributed to a man named Michael Torbert, who
back in nineteen eighty three wore women's dresses and through
garden parties with hats and pig snouts, and then that
officially became a regular fixture at Redskins games for thirty
years counting.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
He threw garden parties and dressed up and yeah.
Speaker 7 (20:18):
We'd borrow his grandmother's poka dot dress and convinced ten
friends to join them at the stadium.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Yeah, all right, let me tell you something. That guy's
a weirdo. Okay, and those ten friends you need to
also reevaluate things as well, too.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
Yeah, weirdos right with them? That is, there are good
people though.
Speaker 7 (20:37):
They raised lots of money for charities, charities like March
of Dimes and Children's Miracle Network.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
Okay, there you go.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
All right, Well, no offense, I'm not dressing up like
a woman with a pig snout to try and raise money.
I'll figure out another way. I'll go recycle cans again
like that, Like I got to.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
Ian, which some would consider dressing up as a rat
a rodent would be worse than dressing up as a
hall gat.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
I mean that was all right.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
First of all, that was a male rat, all right,
And secondly, okay, that's fine, But secondly they.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
Were dressed up as males, just wearing women's clothes.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
And first of all, I was in high school and
I was broke. I needed money. And so when I
when I got hired at Chuck E Cheese, it.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
Wasn't you saying, what was their excuse? What's their excuse?
Speaker 4 (21:28):
They got fetishes like that, That's what.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Their excuse was. What I mean, it's very pretty obvious,
pretty obvious.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Pretty obvious to me. I mean, alrighty, then it's like
keep them away from barnyards. But like the point from.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Hogs Yeah, on the field.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
The point is like if if Fireman D is getting
phased out and Aaron Rodgers got all this poll within
the organization, that would be real poll.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
If you could just eliminate Fireman at completely.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
Or if you popped up and said I'm saving Fireman at.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Yeah, getting the good graces.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
There you go, fan base, there you go.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
That makes some sense.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
There is this other story in the NFL speaking of
the Jets, a former jet and kind of the way
this whole thing has turned out, Jamal Adams requested his
release from the Tennessee Titans, and he got it.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
He got it.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
There was no arguing back and forth like hey, please
stick around, like no, no, it's fine, listen.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
All good.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
He's hardly played for Tennessee. And he's like one example
of many examples of somebody who bro first three four
years of his career. We're talking Pro Bowls, all pros,
gets traded to Seattle, gets the big monster contract. Since
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twenty twenty, injuries has never been the same player, like completely,
Like he went from trajectory of potentially all pro, perennial,
all pro slash who knows Hall of Fame contention type
player to literally can't get on the field and can't
stay healthy.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
Oh I can relate.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
It's like wild how quick that turned because he was.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
Talking injuries can do it. Man, I was watching Chase
I was watching Chase Young last night. Man, Like nobody
talks about him. He doesn't impact the game. He's off balance.
It's like an injury. You're like one injury away from
it changing everything. You know, that injury change Chase Young
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and the way he plays like he's not the same player.
You know, he was hitting towards being like one of
the most dominant defenders. Same with Jamal Adams. Just certain injuries,
you know, they can they can strip you of your
superpower man, and it's sad. It's sad to see it
when it happens to somebody prematurely. It's not really sad
(24:03):
when they lose it over time. You know, it's like, oh, man,
like you know they still got it, but they're just
getting old. Like you could look at Bobby Wagner and
be like, dude, there's still a superhero football player making
all kinds of tackles and stuff, but he's getting older.
So it's like if he's not as impactful, it's just
kind of like, God, you chalk it up to the game,
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but you know, Jamal Adams, he's still Like I feel
like that was when when the whole process of him
or even you know with Chase Young, the whole process
of which them losing what made them special due to
some type of injury. I just that's heartbreaking. That's heartbreaking
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when you see a young talent that has the type
of trajectory that those guys have had fall off because injury.
Injuries have not allowed for them to be able to
stay and be you know, productive anymore.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
It's not even thirty. He's even thirty years old, and
then this is probably it, Like that's that's a wrap,
like he's I mean, Tennessee, it didn't work out there.
I don't know where you know, he ends up getting
getting his next opportunity with. But yeah, like you just
like early in his career with the Jets, like a
high draft pick, he was a safety. He was drafted
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six overall. Like there was like real you know, a
look at him and being like, yeah, this guy's going
to be like the next big thing, and it just
never after.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
Twelve he was, Yeah he was it just not for.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Long, just completely fell fell off. And so now he's
you know, looking around and it's it's gotta be a
weird thing too, when it's something you've done your entire
life and all of a sudden your body just fails you.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
But something you've done and you've been great at doing it,
that's the thing about it, you know what I mean.
Like it's like when you're great at it and you're
not great at it anymore, it's like, damn, like what happened?
You know what I mean? Like I know I know
the feeling, man, I really do. I know the feeling,
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and it's not it's not a fun feeling. It doesn't
make you feel good. You feel you feel like you
know it got away from you, or you feel like
something didn't go the way it was supposed to go.
Regardless of how however, you know, wherever you fall on it,
it's just not a it's not a good feeling to
(26:34):
know that you used to be super human and now
you're everything but that you're you're just you're just a pedestrian,
you're just human, you're mortal. Yeah, it's no good.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Yeah, and then you've got to figure out all right,
So now I'm like because that's the other part of
this that I always find really fascinating is for anybody
out there, like whatever career you're in, like when you
approach thirty years old, it's like a, right, well I'm
turning thirty. All right, well let's go have a rager.
But you're thinking, like, all right, go back to work
the next week, this.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
And that.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
All of a sudden, like in the NFL, like professional athletes,
you approach thirty and it's like, hey, so this is
going to end soon, and you got to just figure
out the next thirty years.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Of your work life.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Yeah, and you better hope that you've got either money
put away or a plan or some sort of a
business venture setup or something. And so you see, like when.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
It goes fast too, bro, it's twenty five. I played
my last football in six That s goes by fast.
Your career goes by fast, like I only played six years,
seven years, but it went by like it was like
a blur. And then you're out of it. And then
(27:49):
the time that elapses once you retire, it's a blur.
I'm approaching twenty years removed from playing a down of
football in the pros. That's crazy. That is crazy. I
played my last football in college in nineteen ninety nine,
(28:14):
Like I feel old, bro, And that happens quick. You'll blink,
Like my son will be a freshman in I Penn
State next year. My oldest son graduated from Delaware, Like
what right? Like I got a twenty four year old
(28:38):
grown ass man as a kid, like wait, hold on,
you two grown slow down. I only got one kid
that's like young anymore. And she's kind of like she
hits ten this year and it's kind of weird, like
she's done with single digits. It's the last time I
have a kid with single digits. You know, it's just crazy,
(28:58):
like you start thinking about so many different things, Jonas
and and I wonder like, like I'm with you. I
doubt Jamal Adams will. I mean maybe due to somebody's
injury or something like that, maybe he gets another opportunity.
But he just doesn't seem like he moves well anymore.
And and like he's kind of like got like kind
(29:19):
of like a big movement to him, you know, and
then he gets knocked like he hurts himself.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
It kind of reminds me of Odell Beckham junior to
where like what Odell.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
But if you were to just like if you.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Took Jamal Adams and Odell Beckham Junior both in New
York two to three years into their career, you'd be like, oh,
superstars in New York, Like as big as it gets,
oh face of the league, they're going to be facing
off in that city and face of the league for
how X amount of years to come bro, like not
even thirty years old.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
That's already.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
That's it, Like that's how sports man, that's how that's
how it unfolds.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Like low end like minimum salary deals and then yeah,
maybe we'll kick the to you to see if you
got anything left, and you probably don't like.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
But that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
It's crazy that at thirty, no other profession, like anybody
like that's doing whatever they're driving to work for when
you hit thirty years old, or if you already hit
thirty years old, you weren't thinking like, oh, that's it.
I like there's something else around the corner, because I'm
getting phased out at that age, Like we could do
this until we're seventy, Like let's be honest, like, I mean,
(30:27):
maybe not this timeslot, but.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
Uh no, hope y'all listening, Scott Don, Hey, my man,
please get us a different time slot at some point.
I mean, I'm gonna do this one for as long
as we need to. But yeah, god dang, I love
y'all at this time slot. I hope y'all love us,
But I hope y'all love us more in a different
(30:49):
one where we could actually get a night sleep.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
But like you, but you think, like in the NFL,
especially the NFL, where the physicality is what it is,
it's just you approach thirty years old and that's it.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
You're never the.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
Same shelf life is different in that game, and as
Q has always mentioned, that's why you're so the ones
that get compensated very very well. I mean I think
even the minimum wage guys get compensated very well, you know.
I mean it's gone up, so I mean, yeah, I
(31:26):
mean it's like kind of like what you make, I
would assume it's like it's really it's really good wage man.
So yeah, I mean, but then you got to figure
it out, like you said, if you're not like and
you're saying it from the perspective of one of the superstars.
If a superstar played in the league, they generally have
(31:47):
have enough money to sustain them. You know, they don't
make any bad decisions that uh, some things go right
for them here and there boom boom boom. Then ultimately,
if you're like a legend and stuff like that, you're
also able to can continue to make money like doing
appearances and stuff like that, at least for the next
three to four years you are, you know. But but
(32:08):
the guys that are like minimum wagers, like the hard
hat lunch pail dudes that you know, they got fully vested,
but they were still only making like, you know, like
a million or something like by the years to that effect.
I mean, after taxes and after everything you have going on. Man,
you are you know, you're only living off of your
(32:31):
what you made for the year. You're not living off
of you're not saving that. You're living off of that
that minimum wage or that million dollar contract, a little
bit of that more than a million. You're living off
of that for the year, not for years to come,
but for the year. And so then you're left to
figure out what's next in your life, you know. And
(32:53):
that's not a horrible thing. People change professions all the time,
you know what I mean. It's just one of those
things where you've done this for so long and you're
so conditioned to be that that going into something different
could be a little scary.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Yeah, So we'll see what happens with the Jamal Adams
in his future of the NFL. It is Two Pros
and a Cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you coming up next here
that we are going to close up shop on a
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These might smell a little fun what that sounds incredible,
but they're still good. Time to find out what's left.
It's Lee's la ay Lee.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
I think you do a great job.
Speaker 7 (34:45):
By the way, Oh thank you, Jonas, appreciate that. Okay, guys,
I have an international story here for you. It's making
the rounds Canadian Olympian snowboar order from back in the day.
His name is Ryan James Wedding is wanted by the FBI.
They're offering fifty thousand dollars for any information that might
(35:07):
come to his lead to his apprehension, arrest or extradition.
He's being accused of running a cocaine smuggling business transnationally
from Columbia, Canada, Mexico, and the United States.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
He really is a snowblower. Yeah, good for.
Speaker 7 (35:21):
Two thousand and two Salt Lake City snowboard whoa On
top of the uh the drug ring, He's also been
accused of ordering the hits on two family members up
in Ontario.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
So great guy here.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
I mean, don't complain about your Christmas Kid.
Speaker 6 (35:40):
Also known as el hefe giant or public enemy?
Speaker 10 (35:43):
What up?
Speaker 4 (35:43):
All right?
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Gad to run into that guy at Mountain High? Wait, Lee,
what are you going back to Rightwood for some Mountain
High action this year?
Speaker 10 (35:54):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (35:54):
There should probably should be some good snow this this season.
Speaker 6 (35:57):
I'm down.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
It's always it's always snowing that guy apparently, Yeah, yeah,
Coop will come with two.
Speaker 7 (36:04):
That'll be good time. Anyone is invited, everyone's invited. This
guy was six foot three, two hundred and forty pounds.
That's pretty big for a snowboarder, but I guess he
was a slalom and for a snowblower.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
If you think about it, most of those guys are
like six five eighty seven pounds.
Speaker 6 (36:22):
Hey, guys, a very special birthday today.
Speaker 7 (36:24):
Eighty five year old old Mike Dicka turns eighty five
years old today. In order of his birthday, let's let's
take a listen to one of his famous rants.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
Here we go.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
We'll be a quarterback.
Speaker 10 (36:33):
That'll be name next week, that'll be the starter. There's
three quarterbacks on this football team. Whichever one starts starts,
which everyone's don't.
Speaker 5 (36:39):
We'll back them.
Speaker 10 (36:40):
Mountain period Cotton Drive it's nobody's concerned, but ours. Nobody's Next,
injuries from the game, talk to the trainer. Next.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
All right, Mike, why you're in such a bad move?
Speaker 5 (36:53):
What do you care? Good?
Speaker 10 (36:56):
Okay, you were two and seven, you'd be in a
bad mood too.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
What next? Mike's just more like a train. Can't say
practice of the pots a regular season? Yes? Next?
Speaker 10 (37:12):
Not very much fun, is it?
Speaker 5 (37:16):
Hello? All right, I'll see you guys.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
That's all equipper right there.
Speaker 5 (37:22):
Equiped town. Baby, We don't give a what.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
Is that Western Pa?
Speaker 5 (37:30):
Right there? S Pa man. Y'all don't know nothing about
that out here? Man, damn. I mean there might be
a couple sections of town I say that could relate,
but it ain't very many, y'all. Some passive aggressive people out.
Mike Dicka wasn't have a great week.
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Speaker 5 (01:19):
With you let the hate out of your heart.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Him.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Uh no, Brady Quinn, He was suspended for the final
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though nice and that's fine, but he ain't here to
listen to it because he got punished, all right, so
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his tone.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
On his new intro song though yeah, I give him
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but if you're listening live, we want to point out
a few things.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
All right.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
It is eight in the morning on the East coast,
five in the morning on the west, two in the
morning in Hawaii right now where they are listening on
the conch of the Hawaiian Islands, Fox Sports nine to
ninety and our friends out there.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
So we're'd have Ben Mahlor of the Big Island of.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Hawaii basically, yeah, but we actually they air us back
to back, did you know that? So they air the
show and then they air us back to back.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
You fine folks out there, great people, Rick Amanda and company,
all those guys. We can't thank them enough for having
us out there and you know, and being able to beyond.
But there is no point during the course of this
show live where it is appropriate to be eating noodles
(03:06):
in serracha at this time of the morning.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
And that's what they they're doing in the control.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Like Larina's got a plate. I am sick of you
airing us out, Jonas. You can smell it down the hall.
Speaker 6 (03:20):
Yeah, and it smells delicious.
Speaker 7 (03:23):
It's five in the morning, with a side of chocolate
cake too, by the way, so.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Good five for the morning.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
I get eggs, you know, a couple, couple of pieces
of bacon, maybe some flap judge it.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Why are you judging them?
Speaker 4 (03:40):
You eat?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
You eat noodles at this time in the morning with
seracha caked on it and chocolate.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
I don't eat anything at this time of the morning.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (03:50):
Yeah, the definition of leftovers definitely is once again, I
actually am a vampire. So this is dinner time for me.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Your logic, your time frame logic. I just can't. I
don't understand it.
Speaker 6 (04:05):
It confuses me too.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
It's okay, yeah, so you view this as dinner. Yes,
and I had breakfast when I woke up at seven
pm last night. Okay, all righty is what it is?
Speaker 5 (04:19):
All right?
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Well, the only thing worse than that was a football
game last night between the Denver Broncos and the New
Orleans Saints. New Orleans stinks. Yeah, they're banged up and
all that, but you know, they've it just kind of
turned into what I think the projection was before the
season from a lot of people that you know, they're
going to need a lot to try and to try
(04:40):
and be a legitimate threat in the NFC, and they
don't have it at Denver surprisingly finds themselves over five
hundred seven games into the season, they're three and one
on the road, a bow Nicks doing enough to win games.
They ran the football, they played good defense. It feels
like Denver, though, you feel good about things because at
least there's sort of an upward trajectory when it comes
(05:01):
to the organization and where they're at. Meanwhile, in Las Vegas,
same division, two different situations, they just traded away DeVante Adams.
DeVante Adams is gone. He's with the New York Jets.
Weird that there hasn't been any sort of hinting at
maybe tampering or anything like that when it comes to
that deal getting done, But nonetheless, DeVante Adams is now
(05:24):
with the Jets. They will be featured on Sunday Night
Football against these stillers. DeVante adams hamstring is apparently healed
up pretty quick on the flight over to Yeah, it's weird,
like it's just like the fastest healing of a hamstring
injury in the history of the league. The Raiders, on
the other hand, they're they're not good and Max Crosby
(05:47):
is the other superstar there in Las Vegas. He has
been very loyal to the organization. He has said he
does not want to go anywhere recently, like he said,
I'm not interested. You know, have this tattooed on me.
I'm here for life. I don't want to go anywhere else. Well,
maybe the DeVante Adams trade kind of uh sparked some
(06:08):
interest and maybe a different outcome to his career. Because
this was Max Crosby this week talking with the media.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
I'm not here to rebuild. I'm here to win.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
So you know, I don't know whatever that means, but yeah,
I'm here to win now and wherever I'm gonna be,
I'm I'm gonna be here to win.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
So that's all I matters to me. Oh boy, bar
wherever I'm gonna be, Yeah, it's uh not going to
be rebuilding all my time. Hey, time is limited.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
By the way.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
He's got to be completely worn out by the bag
of craft that he's had to deal with in Las Vegas.
I mean, you talk about a guy who came in
the league, like, imagine you're Max Crosbie. You come in
the league and you're trying to make it right. You're
just trying to make it. You take it in the
fourth round and out of Eastern Michigan and you're thinking
to yourself, all right, I gotta work my ass off.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
I'm a middle round pick if I want to make
it in the league.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
And then you get to the league and the first
season he's there is the Antonio Brown year where Antonio
Brown burns his feet in a cryou chamber, makes a
video like complains about a helmet, like you know, has
a meeting with the team, and then decides to air
the video message. And the conversation you have with John Gruden.
(07:25):
He's got his own video team, Hard Knocks all that,
Like that's your first introduction into everything. You feel like
you guys are heading in the right direction. Then the
John Gruden mess happens. You give Rich Pisaccia the job
as the interim coach. You guys go to the playoffs.
You lose in a close, competitive game at Cincinnati on
the road in the playoffs. The same year the Bengals
(07:47):
went to the Super Bowl. They move on from Rich Pisaccia.
You bring in DeVante Adams, You bring in Josh McDaniels.
Josh McDaniels doesn't work, He's got to go. Antonio Pierce
sticks around after you bet Derek Carr and you cut him,
and then you get into this season, DeVante Adams gets traded.
(08:08):
Max Crossy's looking around going, what the hell's going on?
Oh and by the way, Tom Brady just became an owner.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Dude. He's been at league five years. That's a lot.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
That's a long time for his position.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Look at some point, though, are you looking around, going, dude,
can I just get some stability? Like I'm not asking
for a whole lot? Can I just get Can I
just know what the plan is? Because it feels like
in Vegas they've had fifteen different plans since he's been
there with the Raiders.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
It's a lot, man, It's a lot. That's a lot
to contend with. It's a lot to deal with when
you're trying to build a legacy of greatness, and you know,
give him, give him a ton of credit for still
being able to continue to focus in on just being
a master of his craft and what it is that
(08:59):
he's able to accomplish. But it's like almost hits me
as though, like they're setting the stage for tom Brady
to build this team the way he wants to build it. Yep,
Like that's that's like I just feel like all the
indications are there, Like the way they walk that man
(09:19):
into that building. Did you see the video of it?
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Oh yeah, there's like three hundred employees, bro.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
And the way he looked when he walked in, like yep,
I'm about to turn this mother out right, Like that's
he just had a certain look to him, Like it
wasn't a oh thanks for having me, like I'm happy
to be here type of look. It was like the
conquering lion had had shown up, Like whatever it is
(09:51):
he has in his mind that he's going to do.
I think I think what's taking place is this this
organization is preparing for Tom Brady to tom Brady eyes
the Las Vegas Raiders.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Tear it down and rebuild it.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Which is interesting that coming into the topic and the segment,
it's about Max Crosby not wanting to do that very thing.
So how does that work?
Speaker 1 (10:23):
I mean, if you're going to move on from Max Crosby,
like sooner rather than later, it's probably better like get
as much as you can for him. Some people have
kind of thrown out the idea of maybe the Detroit Lions.
Obviously he played at Eastern Michigan.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
Brady threw that out yesterday. Yeah, like some people, Brady
threw it out.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
It's been kicked around by others.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
Well, Brady threw it out on our show. They stole it. Well,
if they kicked it around others, they were listening.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
See, I'm going to go with them in this regard
based on his behavior earlier in the show.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
That's the way I'm going to take it here.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
To defend himself.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
But like there is the thought that okay, you could
you know, potentially get some something big in return for
Max Crosby before the trade deadline if somebody was desperate enough,
like Detroit. But it does feel like they're at a
point where what's the plan. And it feels like we're
closer to a rebuild than we are actually contending. So
(11:21):
let's just go that direction. Like if you already traded
away DeVante Adams, and I can understand why you'd want
to keep a foundational piece like a Max Crosby, but
you know he's not getting any younger. And if he's
already frustrated and doesn't want to go through another rebuild,
why not move on now and you can get the
most you can for him. I mean, he's only twenty seven,
he's in his prime. Like, make the move now, Like
(11:43):
why even Like if Tom Brady's going to take the
reins and just do this, and whether he hires Belichick
as the coach, if there's a coaching change, or if
he goes with Mike Rabel, who's out there, who's you know,
a friend of his, like whatever this is. If Brady's
just going to take this and do what he wants
with it, why not you know, get as much as
you can in return for your best players. Max Crosby
(12:04):
is now your best player on your team, and then
go that direction.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
That's what it feels like to me.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
If you're rebuilding and that's the direction you're heading in
and your star player is making it known they don't
want to be a part of a rebuild. They're ready
to win. Now, then I think your logic is sound.
I think it's definitely sound too to kick the tires
around on if you make that move or not at
(12:32):
this point, I think that that would be just a
gut wrenching, heart, heart torn out of your chest plate
move if you're a if you're a real you know,
Raiders fan. But that's where that's where the game is now.
The game is you know, it's not loyal to the players.
(12:55):
The teams aren't loyal to the players, and and so
if that's what's going to happen, I mean, it sounds
it just seems like the stage is set for it
to happen.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Let me ask you this, all right, just as somebody
who was with an organization that there was a lot
of turnover and a lot of dysfunction and a lot
of just chaos all around you at some point, because you,
like Max Crosby, even in the midst of all that stuff,
you guys were able to have great runs, Pro Bowls
(13:28):
all of that. At some point. Are you just like,
aren't you just exhausted?
Speaker 5 (13:32):
Dude?
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Can I just it's like a relationship that doesn't work,
and you spend more time trying to make it work
than actually enjoying it.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
Like you know what type of relationship it's like. It's
like you come into a relationship as a positive person,
but you're dealing with a negative person, and so you're
you're in You're in your time. You're trying to out
positive them while they are trying to out negative you.
(14:01):
And then you just get to that point where you're
just like you have been negative for so long and
your negativity has warned me down so bad. There's two
things that can happen. Either I can go into being
negative with you and start living a negative lifestyle so
that we can just be negative to one another and
(14:23):
be on the same page. Or I get tired of it,
you know, you get tired of of the negativity and
the relationship and you want out, like or you get
out And I wonder where Max Crosby is with you know,
his relationship with you know, with the Raiders, is it
(14:46):
a he's bringing positive and they're bringing negative, and he's
looking at it from the perspective of I'm just going
to become negative with you or my positivity that I've
brought to this place has not been what it's needed
to be, and I need to take this positivity elsewhere
(15:08):
where it can be properly admired and reverenced and utilized.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's gotta be frustrating.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Man.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Well listen, uh, you know, maybe maybe they'll figure it
out against the Rams this weekend.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
You know, that'll be a fun one.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here
on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you
come it up next here though from the tire rack
dot Com studios. Somebody's bitching, all right, somebody in the
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their involvement with a team that could use whatever help
they can get in the National Football League. We'll tell
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you who that is, and in fact, you'll hear from
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Speaker 2 (15:52):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
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Speaker 1 (16:07):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Here on Fox
Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you coming up
in less than twenty minutes from now, we are going
to have a Friday edition of Lee's Leftovers. God only
knows what's going to be involved in Lee's Leftovers. Here
on Fox Sports Radio, Fireman Ed the sow bad has
been for the New York Jets, all right. Fireman Ed
(16:30):
says that there's a problem, all right, So he took
to his Instagram account because we were talking about it.
They seemingly showed him on the Monday night football broadcast
and I thought everything was fine, We're all good here
all as well.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Apparently not.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
He was pissed off and rolled out before.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Yeah, like there was.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
They've they've had kind of a contentious relationship there between
Fireman Ed and the Jets. Now he took to his
Instagram count recently and apparently there's a little bit of
an issue inside the stadium there.
Speaker 8 (17:04):
Last night, in particular, we scored a touchdown and normally,
as a tradition, we're always put on the screen.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
Me, Scott and Jetman are put on a screen to do.
Speaker 8 (17:13):
The jet chant and get the crowd going, which is
a staple in Jetlife stadium. Also on a defensive end,
which is the most important. Normally they will put us
on the screen to get the crowd going. It gives
it more of a widespread experience for the fans to
see and we can get the defensive chant going. But
(17:34):
something's going on in the jet production team over in
Jetlife Stadium. I don't know exactly what's going on, but
they're phasing us out, and I'd like to know. If
somebody knows anything, please let me know, because it's evident
that it's happening and it needs to stop because we
need home field advantage, that's what we have, and we
(17:57):
need to keep it going.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
So something's going on. Please let me know if you
know something. Diance a lot go.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Jets, all right, So that was for anybody wondering, that
was a fireman d not Vinnie at a pizza parlor
in the corner of it.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
It was very venous though.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Now there's only one way that would make this story
even better is.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
That people who were phasing them out just disappear forget
about it.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Or if it was Aaron Rodgers who was behind this too.
Speaker 9 (18:30):
That would be sweet like that, Oh my god, that
would be so Like you mentioned Aaron Rodgers, like, you
know what, I'm not happy with the changes here.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
There's one more thing we need done.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
What is it, ed, get rid of those jets fans.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
We got to get rid of Fireman d That would
be sweet man.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
Gotta get rid of jet Man.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
By the way, did you ever meet the hog Ats
when you were playing in Washington?
Speaker 5 (19:04):
Okay? And I met the Chief?
Speaker 1 (19:06):
All right, So would you would you explain? Would you
explain the hog Ats and and chief? Because I feel
like the hog Ats were way ahead of their time.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
That would be.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
Ahead of their time? Oh yeah, that'd be grown ass
men dressing up as grandmoms with with like bonnets on,
with pig noses. That was the hog Ats.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Like, who the hell started that?
Speaker 5 (19:36):
Lee?
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Would you look at like, who started the hog Ats?
Whose idea was it? Hey, let's dress up like grandmothers
and wear pig noses and show up to a Washington game.
What's like is because of the offensive line, they were
called the hogs? Is that is that.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
The origin of it?
Speaker 5 (19:50):
Yes? That's correct? Like that?
Speaker 1 (19:54):
I mean nowadays you know that's you know, you can
find that. You'd probably find that in the Olympics. Lee,
what do we what do we?
Speaker 8 (20:00):
Well?
Speaker 7 (20:00):
It is attributed to a man named Michael Torbert, who
back in nineteen eighty three wore women's dresses and through
garden parties with hats and pig snouts, and then that
officially became a regular fixture at Redskins games for thirty
years counting.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
He threw garden parties and dressed up and yeah.
Speaker 7 (20:18):
We'd borrow his grandmother's poka dot dress and convinced ten
friends to join them at the stadium.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Yeah, all right, let me tell you something. That guy's
a weirdo. Okay, and those ten friends you need to
also reevaluate things as well, too.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
Yeah, weirdos right with them? That is, there are good
people though.
Speaker 7 (20:37):
They raised lots of money for charities, charities like March
of Dimes and Children's Miracle Network.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
Okay, there you go.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
All right, Well, no offense, I'm not dressing up like
a woman with a pig snout to try and raise money.
I'll figure out another way. I'll go recycle cans again
like that, Like I got to.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
Ian, which some would consider dressing up as a rat
a rodent would be worse than dressing up as a
hall gat.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
I mean that was all right.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
First of all, that was a male rat, all right,
And secondly, okay, that's fine, But secondly they.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
Were dressed up as males, just wearing women's clothes.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
And first of all, I was in high school and
I was broke. I needed money. And so when I
when I got hired at Chuck E Cheese, it.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
Wasn't you saying, what was their excuse? What's their excuse?
Speaker 4 (21:28):
They got fetishes like that, That's what.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Their excuse was. What I mean, it's very pretty obvious,
pretty obvious.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Pretty obvious to me. I mean, alrighty, then it's like
keep them away from barnyards. But like the point from.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Hogs Yeah, on the field.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
The point is like if if Fireman D is getting
phased out and Aaron Rodgers got all this poll within
the organization, that would be real poll.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
If you could just eliminate Fireman at completely.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
Or if you popped up and said I'm saving Fireman at.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Yeah, getting the good graces.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
There you go, fan base, there you go.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
That makes some sense.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
There is this other story in the NFL speaking of
the Jets, a former jet and kind of the way
this whole thing has turned out, Jamal Adams requested his
release from the Tennessee Titans, and he got it.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
He got it.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
There was no arguing back and forth like hey, please
stick around, like no, no, it's fine, listen.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
All good.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
He's hardly played for Tennessee. And he's like one example
of many examples of somebody who bro first three four
years of his career. We're talking Pro Bowls, all pros,
gets traded to Seattle, gets the big monster contract. Since
(22:53):
twenty twenty, injuries has never been the same player, like completely,
Like he went from trajectory of potentially all pro, perennial,
all pro slash who knows Hall of Fame contention type
player to literally can't get on the field and can't
stay healthy.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
Oh I can relate.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
It's like wild how quick that turned because he was.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
Talking injuries can do it. Man, I was watching Chase
I was watching Chase Young last night. Man, Like nobody
talks about him. He doesn't impact the game. He's off balance.
It's like an injury. You're like one injury away from
it changing everything. You know, that injury change Chase Young
(23:40):
and the way he plays like he's not the same player.
You know, he was hitting towards being like one of
the most dominant defenders. Same with Jamal Adams. Just certain injuries,
you know, they can they can strip you of your
superpower man, and it's sad. It's sad to see it
when it happens to somebody prematurely. It's not really sad
(24:03):
when they lose it over time. You know, it's like, oh, man,
like you know they still got it, but they're just
getting old. Like you could look at Bobby Wagner and
be like, dude, there's still a superhero football player making
all kinds of tackles and stuff, but he's getting older.
So it's like if he's not as impactful, it's just
kind of like, God, you chalk it up to the game,
(24:25):
but you know, Jamal Adams, he's still Like I feel
like that was when when the whole process of him
or even you know with Chase Young, the whole process
of which them losing what made them special due to
some type of injury. I just that's heartbreaking. That's heartbreaking
(24:47):
when you see a young talent that has the type
of trajectory that those guys have had fall off because injury.
Injuries have not allowed for them to be able to
stay and be you know, productive anymore.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
It's not even thirty. He's even thirty years old, and
then this is probably it, Like that's that's a wrap,
like he's I mean, Tennessee, it didn't work out there.
I don't know where you know, he ends up getting
getting his next opportunity with. But yeah, like you just
like early in his career with the Jets, like a
high draft pick, he was a safety. He was drafted
(25:25):
six overall. Like there was like real you know, a
look at him and being like, yeah, this guy's going
to be like the next big thing, and it just
never after.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
Twelve he was, Yeah he was it just not for.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Long, just completely fell fell off. And so now he's
you know, looking around and it's it's gotta be a
weird thing too, when it's something you've done your entire
life and all of a sudden your body just fails you.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
But something you've done and you've been great at doing it,
that's the thing about it, you know what I mean.
Like it's like when you're great at it and you're
not great at it anymore, it's like, damn, like what happened?
You know what I mean? Like I know I know
the feeling, man, I really do. I know the feeling,
(26:11):
and it's not it's not a fun feeling. It doesn't
make you feel good. You feel you feel like you
know it got away from you, or you feel like
something didn't go the way it was supposed to go.
Regardless of how however, you know, wherever you fall on it,
it's just not a it's not a good feeling to
(26:34):
know that you used to be super human and now
you're everything but that you're you're just you're just a pedestrian,
you're just human, you're mortal. Yeah, it's no good.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Yeah, and then you've got to figure out all right,
So now I'm like because that's the other part of
this that I always find really fascinating is for anybody
out there, like whatever career you're in, like when you
approach thirty years old, it's like a, right, well I'm
turning thirty. All right, well let's go have a rager.
But you're thinking, like, all right, go back to work
the next week, this.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
And that.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
All of a sudden, like in the NFL, like professional athletes,
you approach thirty and it's like, hey, so this is
going to end soon, and you got to just figure
out the next thirty years.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Of your work life.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Yeah, and you better hope that you've got either money
put away or a plan or some sort of a
business venture setup or something. And so you see, like when.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
It goes fast too, bro, it's twenty five. I played
my last football in six That s goes by fast.
Your career goes by fast, like I only played six years,
seven years, but it went by like it was like
a blur. And then you're out of it. And then
(27:49):
the time that elapses once you retire, it's a blur.
I'm approaching twenty years removed from playing a down of
football in the pros. That's crazy. That is crazy. I
played my last football in college in nineteen ninety nine,
(28:14):
Like I feel old, bro, And that happens quick. You'll blink,
Like my son will be a freshman in I Penn
State next year. My oldest son graduated from Delaware, Like
what right? Like I got a twenty four year old
(28:38):
grown ass man as a kid, like wait, hold on,
you two grown slow down. I only got one kid
that's like young anymore. And she's kind of like she
hits ten this year and it's kind of weird, like
she's done with single digits. It's the last time I
have a kid with single digits. You know, it's just crazy,
(28:58):
like you start thinking about so many different things, Jonas
and and I wonder like, like I'm with you. I
doubt Jamal Adams will. I mean maybe due to somebody's
injury or something like that, maybe he gets another opportunity.
But he just doesn't seem like he moves well anymore.
And and like he's kind of like got like kind
(29:19):
of like a big movement to him, you know, and
then he gets knocked like he hurts himself.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
It kind of reminds me of Odell Beckham junior to
where like what Odell.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
But if you were to just like if you.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Took Jamal Adams and Odell Beckham Junior both in New
York two to three years into their career, you'd be like, oh,
superstars in New York, Like as big as it gets,
oh face of the league, they're going to be facing
off in that city and face of the league for
how X amount of years to come bro, like not
even thirty years old.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
That's already.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
That's it, Like that's how sports man, that's how that's
how it unfolds.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Like low end like minimum salary deals and then yeah,
maybe we'll kick the to you to see if you
got anything left, and you probably don't like.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
But that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
It's crazy that at thirty, no other profession, like anybody
like that's doing whatever they're driving to work for when
you hit thirty years old, or if you already hit
thirty years old, you weren't thinking like, oh, that's it.
I like there's something else around the corner, because I'm
getting phased out at that age, Like we could do
this until we're seventy, Like let's be honest, like, I mean,
(30:27):
maybe not this timeslot, but.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
Uh no, hope y'all listening, Scott Don, Hey, my man,
please get us a different time slot at some point.
I mean, I'm gonna do this one for as long
as we need to. But yeah, god dang, I love
y'all at this time slot. I hope y'all love us,
But I hope y'all love us more in a different
(30:49):
one where we could actually get a night sleep.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
But like you, but you think, like in the NFL,
especially the NFL, where the physicality is what it is,
it's just you approach thirty years old and that's it.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
You're never the.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
Same shelf life is different in that game, and as
Q has always mentioned, that's why you're so the ones
that get compensated very very well. I mean I think
even the minimum wage guys get compensated very well, you know.
I mean it's gone up, so I mean, yeah, I
(31:26):
mean it's like kind of like what you make, I
would assume it's like it's really it's really good wage man.
So yeah, I mean, but then you got to figure
it out, like you said, if you're not like and
you're saying it from the perspective of one of the superstars.
If a superstar played in the league, they generally have
(31:47):
have enough money to sustain them. You know, they don't
make any bad decisions that uh, some things go right
for them here and there boom boom boom. Then ultimately,
if you're like a legend and stuff like that, you're
also able to can continue to make money like doing
appearances and stuff like that, at least for the next
three to four years you are, you know. But but
(32:08):
the guys that are like minimum wagers, like the hard
hat lunch pail dudes that you know, they got fully vested,
but they were still only making like, you know, like
a million or something like by the years to that effect.
I mean, after taxes and after everything you have going on. Man,
you are you know, you're only living off of your
(32:31):
what you made for the year. You're not living off
of you're not saving that. You're living off of that
that minimum wage or that million dollar contract, a little
bit of that more than a million. You're living off
of that for the year, not for years to come,
but for the year. And so then you're left to
figure out what's next in your life, you know. And
(32:53):
that's not a horrible thing. People change professions all the time,
you know what I mean. It's just one of those
things where you've done this for so long and you're
so conditioned to be that that going into something different
could be a little scary.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Yeah, So we'll see what happens with the Jamal Adams
in his future of the NFL. It is Two Pros
and a Cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you coming up next here
that we are going to close up shop on a
Football Friday with another edition of Lee's Leftovers.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
Here on FSR.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here coming
up on this foot.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington, and
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Speaker 5 (33:38):
Top of the World, Top of the World, Top of
the World. Who's sitting on top of the word? Top
of the World, Top of the World, Top.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Of the World, speaking of bad songs? Take it back,
Two Pros just.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
Like music hater like critic bruh like you need to
have your own show, like your own segment on just
hating on songs. I think that that should be a
new features. It'll probably be better than this one. We're
about to go into.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
Dab al right hand, my Arrington Mayo.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here
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Speaker 2 (34:34):
These might smell a little fun what that sounds incredible,
but they're still good. Time to find out what's left.
It's Lee's la ay Lee.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
I think you do a great job.
Speaker 7 (34:45):
By the way, Oh thank you, Jonas, appreciate that. Okay, guys,
I have an international story here for you. It's making
the rounds Canadian Olympian snowboar order from back in the day.
His name is Ryan James Wedding is wanted by the FBI.
They're offering fifty thousand dollars for any information that might
(35:07):
come to his lead to his apprehension, arrest or extradition.
He's being accused of running a cocaine smuggling business transnationally
from Columbia, Canada, Mexico, and the United States.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
He really is a snowblower. Yeah, good for.
Speaker 7 (35:21):
Two thousand and two Salt Lake City snowboard whoa On
top of the uh the drug ring, He's also been
accused of ordering the hits on two family members up
in Ontario.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
So great guy here.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
I mean, don't complain about your Christmas Kid.
Speaker 6 (35:40):
Also known as el hefe giant or public enemy?
Speaker 10 (35:43):
What up?
Speaker 4 (35:43):
All right?
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Gad to run into that guy at Mountain High? Wait, Lee,
what are you going back to Rightwood for some Mountain
High action this year?
Speaker 10 (35:54):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (35:54):
There should probably should be some good snow this this season.
Speaker 6 (35:57):
I'm down.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
It's always it's always snowing that guy apparently, Yeah, yeah,
Coop will come with two.
Speaker 7 (36:04):
That'll be good time. Anyone is invited, everyone's invited. This
guy was six foot three, two hundred and forty pounds.
That's pretty big for a snowboarder, but I guess he
was a slalom and for a snowblower.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
If you think about it, most of those guys are
like six five eighty seven pounds.
Speaker 6 (36:22):
Hey, guys, a very special birthday today.
Speaker 7 (36:24):
Eighty five year old old Mike Dicka turns eighty five
years old today. In order of his birthday, let's let's
take a listen to one of his famous rants.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
Here we go.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
We'll be a quarterback.
Speaker 10 (36:33):
That'll be name next week, that'll be the starter. There's
three quarterbacks on this football team. Whichever one starts starts,
which everyone's don't.
Speaker 5 (36:39):
We'll back them.
Speaker 10 (36:40):
Mountain period Cotton Drive it's nobody's concerned, but ours. Nobody's Next,
injuries from the game, talk to the trainer. Next.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
All right, Mike, why you're in such a bad move?
Speaker 5 (36:53):
What do you care? Good?
Speaker 10 (36:56):
Okay, you were two and seven, you'd be in a
bad mood too.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
What next? Mike's just more like a train. Can't say
practice of the pots a regular season? Yes? Next?
Speaker 10 (37:12):
Not very much fun, is it?
Speaker 5 (37:16):
Hello? All right, I'll see you guys.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
That's all equipper right there.
Speaker 5 (37:22):
Equiped town. Baby, We don't give a what.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
Is that Western Pa?
Speaker 5 (37:30):
Right there? S Pa man. Y'all don't know nothing about
that out here? Man, damn. I mean there might be
a couple sections of town I say that could relate,
but it ain't very many, y'all. Some passive aggressive people out.
Mike Dicka wasn't have a great week.
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