March 27, 2025 • 37 mins
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sweet sixteen hat draw took place earlier in the show
(01:13):
quick recap. Brady Quinn, in a stunner, has two number
one seeds that he drew out of a hat. Boy,
wonder how that happened. He's got Duke Houston, Michigan State,
and Texas Tech.
Speaker 5 (01:26):
Levar's got BYU.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Of course he does Arkansas, Tennessee and Arizona. I've got Maryland, Alabama,
Auburn and Purdue and.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
Lee de Lap.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
He drew tequila, vodka, beer and gin in his one seed.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
It is sweet sixteen.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
He's got Ole, Miss, Michigan, Kentucky and Florida.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
So that is the quick recap there.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Brady Quinn is running away with the bracket challenge on
this show, and based on other selections, Duke wins.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
I don't see. By the way, is Steve Hartman. Does
Steve Hartman have Duke winning it?
Speaker 6 (02:06):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
But here's my other question is you have to look
at the four teams and if they have to play
one another, because, like I said, with Texas and Duke
or excuse me, Texas Tech and Michigan State, I believe
they have to play each other, right.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Uh effort, Yes, so Auburn versus Michigan, so they would
eliminate each other, and then who the other teams?
Speaker 6 (02:27):
I had have Duke and someone else? Duke and Houston.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yeah, aren't they on the same side of the bracket
too when they have to play each other to get
in the finals? Yep, yeah, So that doesn't help me.
That doesn't give you a better chance of winning. I mean, basically,
my teams could be eliminating themselves.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
It guarantees you a spot in the final just because
if Duke, if Duke and Houston get to the final.
Speaker 6 (02:48):
Four, of course, it would guarantee you one team getting
in. It doesn't help you.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
You like to have one team from each side getting in,
so you have two teams in.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
And you win no matter what. Hartman does have Duke
getting in.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
He's got Duke over Florida.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
He's got Duke over Florida. Wow, all right, he's got Florida.
Speaker 6 (03:07):
Who who does he have as his final four?
Speaker 7 (03:09):
Michigan State, Florida, Duke, and Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Okay, very possible. So that that does Kentucky play. Who
do they play next? Tennessee Tennessee Tennis? I mean they
beat him twice in the regular season. That's gonna ultimately
determine the bracket.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
Then Tennessee is a favorite in that game.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
By the way, he's got Tennessee. Uh going going, hey.
Speaker 6 (03:34):
Who you have, I've got Kentucky.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
You got more with my heart than my head probably,
but again they did beat him twice, I believe this
past regular season. So you have Kentucky and Houston in
that bracket. Yeah, I have Kentucky being Houston. I actually
have Houston losing to Purdue. Oh wow, I'm.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Telling you man.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
After Tom Izzo talked up Braden Smith, I started watching
him more and more. I just I think that's it's
Perdue's a tough team to prepare for.
Speaker 6 (04:04):
They're they've they're big, they're athletic.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Braden Smith controls everything and when he's on like, they're
tough to stop. And even if he's missing, he'll find
ways of creating offense. Like that's that's a tough out.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Roosevelt Covalan's uh son plays for them. Here's pretty good boy.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
He has hops, he got he had a putback dunk.
It was like either the second round or first round.
It was unbelievable. Nice he could he could have touched
the top the square if you wanted to.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Nice. I heard he's pretty good. I mean I watched
him a lot last year because of the big dude,
and I got a chance to see him play. But yeah,
that's pretty good. They're pretty good for basketball team that
was very stay football for some reason.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Bro, what's up with like everyone having a seven foot
guy in the roster now? I mean, Perdue's got one
that comes off the bench, Florida's got a couple of guys.
I mean, I feel like everyone's got I know Arkansas
has one, and I'm pretty sure Kentucky has one.
Speaker 6 (04:58):
Duke has one. Like our kids, he's getting taller these days.
Like really finding all these seven footers.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Bruh, they're humanoids. Man, I'm telling you. People be thinking
I'm joking when I be saying these basketball players look
like mutants, man, like avatars. They just look different. And
I don't know because they'll have parents. Me and man, Man,
we just talk about this. Yesterday. You walked out to
go to work out and one of the dudes that
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I guess plays on the basketball team literally bent down,
like horizontally ninety degrees to get out of his doorway
and then bent back up and he said, Dad, like
I lost him in the sun. Like lost the dude's
face in the sun. So he was tall, you say
he had to be a seven footer and their parents
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be like five five and five nine, Mom, five to five,
Dad five nine. You got foot. Yeah, see there you go.
You gotta check on it. You gotta check on it. Man,
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (05:56):
It's actually probably the Amazon man. Now if we're being
for being honest.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Saw Amazon man trip up the stairs yesterday as what's funny?
And I almost wrecked my car. Bro We were driving,
and we were driving and the dude came. He flashed
by like you know, like he was like running up
to deliver his his packages. And he flashed by and
he ran up. He ran up and said, and hit
one of them stairs. He didn't pick his foot up
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high enough. Yeah, you start when you start to go down,
you start to go real fast, like you speed up
your run. Try to to may he ain't making box
went up in the air, hit the steps, he ain't making.
He ain't make it. But that's all right, that's you know,
that's things you run into in Manhattan Beach. You know, slow,
ain't nothing going on, you know, you just you know,
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you just have one of the moments so it was
a big laugh moment, though.
Speaker 8 (06:46):
I'll tell you that you checked. No, we pulled off.
He's an Amazon man, like you know, they're they're built tough.
You know, they can take a fall and keep on
keep on going.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
You know. Sure it was fine. I'm sure he was fine.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
I hope. So I'm to be half of the show.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Were you ever an Amazon delivery man? Me? Yeah? No,
because I'll be wondering why I'd be seeing so many
vampires walking around. Yeah, it must be the Amazon prejudice
against vampires.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
I don't get it. Why are you a vampire?
Speaker 4 (07:21):
I'm more of a werewolf guy. You know, I was
Team Werewolf, you know, just.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Telling you now. We mentioned tom Izzo earlier.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Do you remember that? Do y'all remember that when that
was like a thing and they were putting it on
like like fast food cups and stuff. What team are
you team Jacob or team What? What was the other
dude's name? Edward? Edward? There we go? It was Jacob
and Network right Ray quick on the draw?
Speaker 7 (07:46):
There, huh, I love me some Twilight.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Which team were you on? Edward or Jacob?
Speaker 9 (07:52):
For sure?
Speaker 4 (07:53):
There you go? Whoa Jesus?
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Yeah, I never saw that movie. So I have no
idea the one. No, it's too busy watching football.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
I heard it was based off of your true story,
to be honest.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Oh yeah, well they got bad tattoos and poor complexion.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Lebrettes. They had lebrettes. You know. There there was a
big bull mast if walking around, even though why would
you have a bull mass if you're probably gonna eat it,
you know, sucking's blood or whatever. I don't know. Yeah,
is that what happened to the boss out?
Speaker 5 (08:31):
You ate him a lot to eat? He was three
twenty five at the time, was passing.
Speaker 9 (08:37):
So.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Stick jumped over the gate. Yesterday, man was in the
neighbor's yard. It was a little scary, even though he's friendly.
I didn't want nobody to hurt him. But anyways, I digress.
Let's back to the story. Seven footers. Yeah, seven footers
these days, there's a lot of them, and they're in
the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
You guys have talked about the uh, we've got the
discussions about the issue with the transfer portal. You know,
non idea of the tournament's going on, and you know
you got this whole thing.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Opening up, open it up, right, tournament?
Speaker 5 (09:10):
Huh?
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Tom Izzoways asked about it and talking with the media
and his preparation for his Sweet sixteen matchup, and it
sounded something like this.
Speaker 10 (09:18):
Again, I'm gonna apologize to you, but I am ticked
off that you answered ask me that right now, because
I think you just cheated me. So if I keep talking,
I cheat my players, and I'll cheat myself before I'll
cheat my players. So another question about the transfer portal.
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I can lift you a lot of schools. You can
call and ask them. They might have the better opinion
than me. All right, let's get back to some good things.
That's not insulting. I'm not mad at yet. I mean,
I'm kind of am, but I'm not really, but I
think you should know me well enough. But I learned
from Steven A and you have the right to ask
the question. I think it's ridiculous that the NCAA or
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any other entity put these two things together. Is that
people like you have to ask these questions. And I
value that you have to ask them. And I do
get upset when you know people are talking to our
kids about them. Kids gotta do what they gotta do,
and they're really not doing what they got to do.
They're doing what their parents or their agents are telling
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them to do, because they still got to go to practice,
going the same locker room unless they leave the team.
And I think that's insane. I think it's disgusting. But
you know that's my own personal opinion. We will always
have an eye on the transfer portal.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
So there was tom Izzo at the Michigan.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
I totally agree with him too. It puts these kids
and these universities in such like compromise positions, man like that,
here's why they're going to this tournament.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Geez Like, don't they have control over this? Like the
NCAA sets up, for example, these these windows. And there's
been some critics who have said that you can call
mid majors or whoever you how every want to categorize
some of the basketball teams, but especially these schools that
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don't have a football program so basketball is their major sport.
They've been hurt the most because of NIL. Which you
can debate that because some of these programs that don't
have football, they direct all their funds to men's.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
Basketball and so it actually enhances that.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
But anyway, the general point is if the NCAA controls
this and how they go about creating these transfer portal windows,
Why in the hell do they allow this to happen
during their largest money maker, the most important time of
the year for them.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
To make revenue.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
It doesn't make any sense at all sense And even
for football that have two it's like, it's hard for
me to understand how there could be so many flaws
in the decision making of the NCAA and really all
parties involved, like all the adults in the room that
create the college football calendar as well, when you're going
you have a professional model, like we are moving from
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an amateur model to a professional model, and we're doing
it it seems like at a painfully snail's pace, And
it's like, institute whether you want to call it one
transfer portal window or a free agency period like they
call in the NFL, like they call in every other
professional sport. Go ahead and institute a period of time
where that starts and ends, and do it where it's
(12:38):
in the off season. It's not complicated like the NCAA
and college sports act like we don't have a model
for this, Like they're so begrudgingly wanting to move the
ball forward and set up the calendar so it doesn't
put coaches and players in this position where you're trying
to play for a national championship. And John cal Perry
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said it the other day, like he's going to be
meeting with players talking about their next opponent while also
simultaneously talking to them about if they're going to stay
on the team or not after the season.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
It is bizarre.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
It's like getting in the playoffs and NFL teams are
already having the following year's negotiations to whether or not
you know that player is going to sign back in
free agency or what they're going to do.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
And I just again, we have models that are set
up to avoid these sorts of issues. It's like it's
amateur hour with the NCAA and all parties involved who
are part of the decision making process, the calendars that
involved that allow the transfer portal to exist in the
window that it doesn't men's basketball and women's basketball for
that matter, and the windows that exist for college football.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
The fact you have two is ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
I mean, but there's a better way.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
To do this.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
Is it incompetence?
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (13:52):
They didn't just didn't think about it, like, oh, Damn,
that's that month.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
They'll tell you it's the academic calendar that that compromises them.
You're trying to figure out the proper time to give
these athletes these opportunities to seek a different school, and
it's based off of the academic structure. Some are quarterly,
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some are semesterly, right or as did I get that right?
Speaker 6 (14:23):
It's what's called an eligibility issue.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
So what LeVar is talking about is, you know, there's
still an eligibility component to these athletes, you know, being
able to play and be a part of it. Which
again a lot of people would debate whether or not
that matters, whether or not that should matter as you're
more moving to more of a professional world. I think
there's old school people like myself that feel like there's
a combination that can work. But I I, you know,
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i'd like to believe that there are those are excuses
to me, like they can use the academic calendar say oh, well,
it's about credits transferring their eligibility.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
Okay, we can find a common ground in them.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I know it's tough sometimes in the world of academia
to try to find, you know, agreements on certain topics.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
This shouldn't be that difficult. It really shouldn't be like.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Did the player pass or fail? What was the whether
it was the grade? Can we be accepting of the credits?
Like this is more of an admissions issue at most
institutions determining because because okay, if we're really going to
peel back the layers, a lot of schools with transfer
portal in particular with the student athletes, they're protective of
their degree and what they're doing is for the rest
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of their alumni base. They're saying, like, we don't want
a guy to pop in here who's only been here
a year and then finish having a degree with their
name on at our university, our branding, when they really
weren't here as a student for that long, right, because
it's unfair to every other person that actually paid tuition
and paid room and board and every books everything else
to come here and actually be here as a student
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to then get their degree and then have that network
and have that that alma maters come back to. Like
it feels disingenuous, right, That is an essence what some
of these universities are trying to protect. And I can
get that to a degree, but I do think you're
carving out a special niche for sports, and it's not
that big.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
Of a population of students that are doing it.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
And I don't think if you changed some of the
rules around this that it would make I mean and
in fact, eliminiting one of the transfer portal windows, it
would limit these circumstances from happening as much like you
could find one time in the year where both semesters
and quarters would align where this can work. But again,
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the NCAA doesn't view that as a priority, even though
I've said from for years now, the transfer portal is
the issue. It's not ANIL people who think that like
paying players, it's not pay for play. It's not ANIL.
However you want to describe what we're doing right now,
it is the transfer portal. We are not forcing young
people to commit to even a year of being at
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a school, especially in football, because you now have multiple
opportunities to believe if you so see fit m.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Yeah, it puts It puts players like kids in interesting
scenarios as well, like I'll give you a well, we're
up on the break, but just super quick. My daughter's transferring.
She's using the transfer portal because her coach went to
a different school, and which is.
Speaker 6 (17:20):
Always the case.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
It's always existed aside from the window right right and
so and and the way everything fell.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
She she she she hit the portal while it was
not it wasn't I guess open. So she has to
wait until the summer to be able to even get
her scholarship and go and roll into the school that
she's transferring to. So she's got to be at the
school that she's at instead of I hit the portal,
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I hit the portal, I'm able to get up out
of there, like you know, d and roll and then boom,
go and roll into the next school. She has to
be there for the entirety of the semester that she's
in right now, just based upon when her coach left,
you know what I mean. So it's it's like sometimes
it hits these kids in a way where it's like
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man like, you know what I mean, And then they're recruiting,
you know what I mean. So it's like that coach
leaves at a time where the portal isn't open for
the kids that are there. They want to follow the coach,
you know, And and I'm obviously the coach probably wants
them to follow with them. They can't, Like really, they
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can't recruit them for one, right, So so now there's
that disadvantage, but they have to start recruiting to build
the roster of the team that they're going to have,
you know what I mean. So there are like.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Windows that are in there, and the windows it's open
for them at that new school, because that's correct.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
It's only open for correct.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
But but let me, I'm gonna go back to the
academic issuecause I'm gonna give you one example. A family
moves in high school. A kid ends up moving in
February or March right of that spring. Do you think
this school district that he moves to is like, Nope,
can't accept him. Got to wait until the next you's
got to set out of school for the next few months. Right, No,
they accept them, they n't roll them. They figure out
who may have waken it and making it work. Like
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that's just one example that we do at a high
school level or junior high level or whatever else we
want to talk about where that happens frequently and we
figure out a way of making a work like this
isn't that complicated, but we sure as heck, find a
way to make it complicated.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
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Coming up next here, though it is a Thursday tradition,
We're going to get the very latest on the doubt
in Minnesota, the future of Aaron Rodgers, and draft speculation
with Albert Breer.
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Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming
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Tirack dot Com studios, we are going to close up
shop with another edition of Lee's Leftovers. Right now, though
it is a Thursday tradition here on the show. He
is the Great Alper Breer, Senior NFL reporter, lead content
strategist at the MMQB, the star of Amazon's NFL on
(20:21):
Prime coverage and our good buddy a b what's happening.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
All right?
Speaker 3 (20:28):
So we were talking about the Quescia Dolpha Mensa comments
about the situation in Minnesota quarterback Kevin O'Connell's relationship with Aaron.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
Rodgers, etc. Etc.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Why does it feel like they've continued to keep the
door open for speculation about somebody other than JJ McCarthy
being the quarterback when there's been plenty of opportunities to
close it.
Speaker 9 (20:54):
Because I think they have a team that is in
position to win right now. In other words, they're not
in the position that a lot of teams that young
quarterbacks are, which is their rebuilding or they're just the
start of something. You know, this is a fourteen win team.
This is a team that's got a lot of accomplished veterans.
And you guys know the names Justin Jeffson, Christian Barrisaw,
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you know, Jonathan Gernard, Byron Murphy, like Harrison Smith, Like,
how do you go to those guys and tell them
you've done everything he possibly can to give them the
best possible answer a quarterback when it's just a guy
coming a guy who's never played an NFL game, who's
never dressed for an NFL game, And that's nothing against J. J. McCarthy,
is just a fact, you know. You know, I think
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there's you know, there's there's there's that feeling I think
for them that we got to do everything we possibly
can to make sure that we're covered at that position.
And so look like he lost a lot of weight
last year, he lost four months of on field development time,
and you know, I think there are fair questions and
how that's going to affect him going in to twenty
(22:00):
twenty five. Doesn't mean he's never going to be a
great player. They lost belief in him or anything like that.
It's just sort of where you are, you know, when
you have the team that you have and you have
the quarterback situation they do, and look they telegraph it too.
I mean they offered Daniel Jones fifteen million to stay.
They offered Sam Darnold more than that. Yeah, Aaron Rodgers
is a different deal because with Aaron Rodgers, instead of
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like creating competition in the room, you would be sort
of slamming on the pause button on the JJ McCarthy
era in Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
But I mean make no.
Speaker 9 (22:33):
Mistake about, like, you know, the way they've they've they've
conducted themselves here. You know, they want insurance against McCarthy.
And I think a huge part of it has to
do with the makeup of the team that they have
right now.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
So does that mean that basically the Pittsburgh Steelers then
have to play the wedding game with Rogers because if
he wants to drag this thing out, I mean, they're
kind of limited with with what their options are. I
guess they could trade for cousins. I guess they could
draft a quarterback if one drops to them, But what
are the ses doing this case if Rogers wants to
wait this thing out to see how the vice continue
(23:05):
to evaluate him.
Speaker 9 (23:06):
Yeah, yeah, and I think that, like, and the problem
with that, Brady is, you know, is like they don't
get on the field until May. You know, Like, so
I think OTAs I want to I want to say,
like usually teams start those and I don't have the
calendar in front of me for this particular year, but
I think it's something like May twentieth. When most teams start,
they're on field stuff like you know, for the first
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month of the off season. Programs just strength and conditioning
and stuff like that. So you know, I like that,
Like it's is is Aaron Rodgers willing to wait until
Memorial Day or until the end of the off season
program for the Vikings to get a full evaluation, or
you know, is he gonna Is he going to go
in with the Feelers? I think he does wind up
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signing with the Feelers, you know, And I do think that,
you know that, I think that happens like and and again,
like Aaron's his own guy, So this could happen intentally,
this could happen in ten minutes. I don't know, but
I do think that Aaron Rodgers winds up with the Steelers.
But you can see where the idea of the Vikings
would intrigue Rogers, and you know, on the flip side,
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you can see why the Vikings might be a little
bit more hesitant on this one versus versus Jones or
Donald where Jones or Donald, like, there's a realistic scenario
if you bring either of those guys back or McCarthy
is the starting quarterback on October first, regardless, right, if
you bring Rogers in, that's that's not happening. You know,
like you are you are you are you know, pushing
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McCarthy a year down the road, and obviously that can
have different implications.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Speaking of implications of Aaron Rodgers, obviously the New York
Giants moved off of bringing him in and signed Jamis
Winston and Russell Wilson recently. Well do you think that
does to their draft board?
Speaker 9 (24:53):
Ab I think at the very least, it gives them
the flexibility not to take a quarterback at three and
not force it anywhere in the top one hundred. You know,
essentially it looks like they'd rather have Aaron Rodgers there.
So don't get me wrong, you know what I mean?
Like that, they clearly telegraphed that, and you know before
that it was let's get Matthew Stafford here. So they
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were willing to spend the money. But you know, in
place of having you know, say a thirty five million
dollars contract with Aaron Rodgers, you know, now you're looking
at where for under fifteen million dollars, they've got two
guys on the roster that can start a game for
you tomorrow. They have had a ton of starting experience
in Rogers and Jamis, and you know, on top of
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that five picks in the top one oh five, So
you know, for right now, at least, it gives them
the flexibility not to force the quarterback position. And you know,
I think like where that leaves them is, you know,
right there in play at number three for ab Dual
Carter or Travis Hunter, and it gives them the chance
to take the best player there. And I think most
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people both teams would tell you that, you know, there's
it's those two guys in this year's draft class, Carter
and Hunter, and then there's a draft and then there's
a bit of a drop off to the next group,
and the next group is pretty big, so so yeah,
I mean, I think gives them the flexibility to just
go into the draft and take the best player and
and you and if you're Brian Daball, you'd hope that
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you know, one of the guys that you have in
the roster right now is enough to get you at
least into the playoff conversation where you can save your
job and maybe address the quarterback position again. In twenty
twenty six.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Albert Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, AB
is it more based on what people you've talked to,
more likely that shudor Sanders could end up in Cleveland
at two or Las Vegas at.
Speaker 11 (26:47):
Six, I would say clearly, I would say Cleveland's more
likely based on what I know about those two teams
and where they're at.
Speaker 9 (27:00):
I think Vegas takes the best player at six. I
think Cleveland is I think juggling a bunch of different
things here.
Speaker 11 (27:09):
Now.
Speaker 9 (27:09):
If you put a gun to my head today today
and ask me, who are they going to take it to?
Iday abdual Carter, and I've said that for a little while,
I think it makes sense. He's a great set, he'd
be a great fit for Jim Schwartz's defense there, and
the idea obviously of putting him opposite Miles Garrett his channel.
I think. So, you know, I think the the likelihood
(27:30):
is that they wind up drafting Abdul Carter. That'd be
my guest right now. But I think that I don't
think Schuur is a horrible fit for for Kevin Stefanski whatsoever.
I do think it's something they have considered as it's
become less and less likely that Cam Wore is going
to make it to them and two and so yeah,
now we'll see what happens. And I think the Kirk
(27:52):
Cousins thing is sitting out there for them too, and
that Kevin Stansky's got backgroundal Cousins, he worked with him
for two years in Minnesota, you know. And I think,
like in a certain way, and this is sort of
an interesting twist the whole thing. Cousins has told people
he's not going to wave hiss no trade clause until
after the draft because he doesn't want to be in
a situation like he was last year, where you know,
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he signed somewhere or goes somewhere. In this case, he
would be signing somewhere to be trade trade somewhere, and
then you know, his new team winds up drafting someone
in the top ten. In in a way, I think
that sort of helps Cleveland too, where you know, like
they can evaluate Chador and Jackson Dark, Tyler Schuck and
Will Howard and all the different guys in this year's class.
(28:36):
Quinn yever is like and and and and and then
revisit Kirk after after the first night of the draft,
you know. And so I still think there's a possibility
that they come out of draft weekend with both Kirk
Cousins and abdual Carter and then maybe they take a
quarterback somewhere late later in like the top hundred picks or.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
So, I know we're getting uh it was still ways
away from the draft, but I don't want to get
ahead of ourselves. Is there a team that you'd keep
an eye on that you think is gonna be active
in trying to trade up or being able to make
a trade possible to trade up?
Speaker 9 (29:09):
Yeah, I mean I think like I mean, I like,
if you're talking about like high in the first round Brady,
which is almost always for a quarterback, you know. I
just think like there are a couple of teams that,
you know, like that they're always looking and you know,
I think that that they have general managers that like
have you know, shown that they're willing to be aggressive
(29:31):
in Seattle and Pittsburgh where it's like okay, like you know,
like look at how Seattle landed on Russell Wilson in
the first place, you know what I mean, they kept
taking swings at getting the quarterback position right right. Pittsburgh
like you know, they they they struck out on Kenny
Pickett a couple of years ago, Like do they feel
like they've got to attack this from multiple angles? You know,
(29:53):
in the way that you know, and even if they
get Aaron Rodgers. I mean, people forget like that, you know,
when when the Rocos signed Peyton Manning that same year
they they drafted brock Osweiler, When the Bucks signed Tom
Brady that same year, they drafted Kyle Trask. You know, Like,
so we've seen this before where you sort of attack
it from both angles, and I could certainly see Pittsburgh
(30:16):
doing something like that. So I don't think it's like
because I just don't think the quarterbacks this year on
the level that we saw, you know, for example, the
quarterbacks last year. You know, but if there was somebody
out of left field, maybe somebody like that would would
would make a short move up if somebody starts flying.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Like.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Was it true that is there any truth to the
fact that New York was trying to get to number
one and Tennessee didn't didn't go for it? Did you
hear that one?
Speaker 10 (30:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (30:46):
So, like I I would say, like those things have
been explored. I know, the Giants have sort of explored
everything with our here's the Titans approached this whole thing,
and this has been their approach, And you know, I like,
I think this goes back to to to really the
beginning of the process. As you know, they brought in
a new general manager, Mike Borganzi, and he brought guys
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like Dave Ziggler and Reggie McKenzie with him. The whole
idea of for for them was we control this because
we have the first pick. Nobody can get in front
of us. So we want to go through a full
process with the four guys that we look as you know,
look at as viable options for that first overall pick.
Those four guys are Cam mooresh to do our Standers,
(31:30):
Abdul Carter, and Travis Hunter. So you know, like there
are at a time at the point now where they're
going through the pro day process. I believe LeVar Penn
State's pro day tomorrow, right, it is tomorrow, Yeah, tomorrow,
and then and then Colorado is next week. So they
get past that, they'll do their private workouts and then
you know, okay, like you know, now, either we've made
the decision on what we're going to do and who
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we're going to take and we're not really entertaining main
calls for the first overall pick, or we're open for business,
you know, and that's not assessing what's available to them
at the first overall pick. It's also looking at okay,
if we went down to two or three and like
cam Mooard's off the table for us, then you know
what are we looking looking at?
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Like?
Speaker 9 (32:11):
And other options here? In other words, like do we like,
you know, abdual Carter so much that we don't want
to drop to two because we're afraid if we you know,
drop to two, Or we don't want to drop to
three because you know, we're afraid that abdual Carter will
be gone if we got if we go two, you
know what I mean, like if we if abdual card
be gone at three? Right, Yeah, I took myself up there,
(32:33):
you know what I'm saying. So, so they wanted to
go through all that, and that's sort of where they
are right now and just kind of trying to assess
all of that. And I would I would think, you know,
that'll all crystallize for them, you know, probably mid April,
and then they'll make the final decision on whether or
not they're even going to entertain the guy give over
the pick.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
We got like twenty seconds here, Sorry, just try to
fit this in, is it true? Cleveland has also called
Tennessee to try to trade out for that one pick
and then anything to the Dak Prescott rumored by Bruce Drennan,
a guy who spent I think five years in federal prison,
anything to that.
Speaker 9 (33:10):
I have not addressed the Dak Prescott thing because I
I don't know that it can be taken seriously, So
I'll just believe that where it is. I have not
heard anything about Dak Trescott being moved. But but but
but I think Cleveland has explored all their options here.
So you know, again, look, I think you know what
most teams and and I don't that stuff's going very
(33:32):
far yet because you know, just the Titans have you know,
again taken this approach like we want all the information
on the top guys, and I, you know, my gut
tells me Brady that they're going to sit there and
take Cam moored at number one. But you know, who's
just you know, we could get to the middle of
April and they decide the better thing is is to
trade down a couple of spots. It's just I think
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you look at like the way they've operated thus far,
and again, everything that they've done seems to set up
to to draft and support quarterback get.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Him on x at Albert Breer, we appreciate it as always.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
We'll do it again next week. Thanks aby Ty, Thank guy.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
There is the great Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter at
the MMQB, Amazon NFL on Primes coverage there at the
star of the show, joining us here every single Thursday.
Coming up next here that we are going to close
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Speaker 2 (35:04):
Least might smell a little fun incredible, but they're still good.
Speaker 5 (35:09):
Time to find out what slap?
Speaker 6 (35:12):
It's Lee's lap?
Speaker 5 (35:14):
All right? The lap? What we got?
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Man?
Speaker 12 (35:15):
What a day ahead for Lee to lap? We are
gonna start off with taking off right after the show.
I'm gonna be dropping off Loreena at Burbank Airport.
Speaker 7 (35:24):
We'll be saying goodbye to her for the week.
Speaker 12 (35:27):
Farewell Ray Ray, Ye at least lax, so I appreciate that.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
Where you going, Rey, Ray?
Speaker 7 (35:36):
I'm taking my daughter back to the cow country? Who
who do we got?
Speaker 5 (35:42):
What we got?
Speaker 7 (35:43):
Mighty Mark? Yes, we have mighty sweet.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Mighty mighty Mark.
Speaker 12 (35:49):
On top of that, I got a movie screening. My
buddy surprised me. He flew in also from Burbank Airport.
Picked him up from the airport yesterday. He's a writer
of this new movie called Come with Me with Ron Pearlman,
Theo ROSSI remember him from Sons of Anarchy.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
Writer.
Speaker 7 (36:04):
He wrote this movie.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
Yeah, your friend that you picked up? Yep, okay, yep.
Uh Are you going with a date other than.
Speaker 7 (36:11):
I'm taking my mom because she used to proof the
scripts back.
Speaker 6 (36:14):
In the day.
Speaker 12 (36:18):
Who else, No, just my mom, you know the girls,
the girls at work. Uh, this guy, I went to
film school with him. He's a writer, the worst big
feature film and my mom used to proof read his scripts.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Like a big deal, dude, you work with the pizza
place with no no, but he was around during those days,
like a big deal, is a big deal.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
I'm work.
Speaker 7 (36:41):
His name is Jonathan Crum. He's a great writer. Very
happy for him.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
I'm not a big fan of his work, to be
honest with you.
Speaker 12 (36:48):
And then after that, of course, we got MLB Opening day,
We've got Sweet sixteen. I'm gonna go to Champs after
the screening watch it. And then uh, after that, we
got Paul American on HBO, the uh the unexposed little
known humans known as Jake and Logan Paul finally share
their lives with the public.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
So Macie, tomorrow might be a touch and go, yeah said.
Speaker 7 (37:10):
It's a busy day.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
Oh oh here.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
We go here. At least at least we know, Yeah,
at least we know.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
And I hope marks that uh you know, tomorrow is
going to be a little dicey.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
All right, it's been a fun show, guys.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
We'll have fun Lee all right guys, Yeah good Safe travels, Loverina,
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sweet sixteen hat draw took place earlier in the show
(01:13):
quick recap. Brady Quinn, in a stunner, has two number
one seeds that he drew out of a hat. Boy,
wonder how that happened. He's got Duke Houston, Michigan State,
and Texas Tech.
Speaker 5 (01:26):
Levar's got BYU.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Of course he does Arkansas, Tennessee and Arizona. I've got Maryland, Alabama,
Auburn and Purdue and.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
Lee de Lap.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
He drew tequila, vodka, beer and gin in his one seed.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
It is sweet sixteen.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
He's got Ole, Miss, Michigan, Kentucky and Florida.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
So that is the quick recap there.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Brady Quinn is running away with the bracket challenge on
this show, and based on other selections, Duke wins.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
I don't see. By the way, is Steve Hartman. Does
Steve Hartman have Duke winning it?
Speaker 6 (02:06):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
But here's my other question is you have to look
at the four teams and if they have to play
one another, because, like I said, with Texas and Duke
or excuse me, Texas Tech and Michigan State, I believe
they have to play each other, right.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Uh effort, Yes, so Auburn versus Michigan, so they would
eliminate each other, and then who the other teams?
Speaker 6 (02:27):
I had have Duke and someone else? Duke and Houston.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yeah, aren't they on the same side of the bracket
too when they have to play each other to get
in the finals? Yep, yeah, So that doesn't help me.
That doesn't give you a better chance of winning. I mean, basically,
my teams could be eliminating themselves.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
It guarantees you a spot in the final just because
if Duke, if Duke and Houston get to the final.
Speaker 6 (02:48):
Four, of course, it would guarantee you one team getting
in. It doesn't help you.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
You like to have one team from each side getting in,
so you have two teams in.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
And you win no matter what. Hartman does have Duke
getting in.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
He's got Duke over Florida.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
He's got Duke over Florida. Wow, all right, he's got Florida.
Speaker 6 (03:07):
Who who does he have as his final four?
Speaker 7 (03:09):
Michigan State, Florida, Duke, and Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Okay, very possible. So that that does Kentucky play. Who
do they play next? Tennessee Tennessee Tennis? I mean they
beat him twice in the regular season. That's gonna ultimately
determine the bracket.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
Then Tennessee is a favorite in that game.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
By the way, he's got Tennessee. Uh going going, hey.
Speaker 6 (03:34):
Who you have, I've got Kentucky.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
You got more with my heart than my head probably,
but again they did beat him twice, I believe this
past regular season. So you have Kentucky and Houston in
that bracket. Yeah, I have Kentucky being Houston. I actually
have Houston losing to Purdue. Oh wow, I'm.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Telling you man.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
After Tom Izzo talked up Braden Smith, I started watching
him more and more. I just I think that's it's
Perdue's a tough team to prepare for.
Speaker 6 (04:04):
They're they've they're big, they're athletic.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Braden Smith controls everything and when he's on like, they're
tough to stop. And even if he's missing, he'll find
ways of creating offense. Like that's that's a tough out.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Roosevelt Covalan's uh son plays for them. Here's pretty good boy.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
He has hops, he got he had a putback dunk.
It was like either the second round or first round.
It was unbelievable. Nice he could he could have touched
the top the square if you wanted to.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Nice. I heard he's pretty good. I mean I watched
him a lot last year because of the big dude,
and I got a chance to see him play. But yeah,
that's pretty good. They're pretty good for basketball team that
was very stay football for some reason.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Bro, what's up with like everyone having a seven foot
guy in the roster now? I mean, Perdue's got one
that comes off the bench, Florida's got a couple of guys.
I mean, I feel like everyone's got I know Arkansas
has one, and I'm pretty sure Kentucky has one.
Speaker 6 (04:58):
Duke has one. Like our kids, he's getting taller these days.
Like really finding all these seven footers.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Bruh, they're humanoids. Man, I'm telling you. People be thinking
I'm joking when I be saying these basketball players look
like mutants, man, like avatars. They just look different. And
I don't know because they'll have parents. Me and man, Man,
we just talk about this. Yesterday. You walked out to
go to work out and one of the dudes that
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I guess plays on the basketball team literally bent down,
like horizontally ninety degrees to get out of his doorway
and then bent back up and he said, Dad, like
I lost him in the sun. Like lost the dude's
face in the sun. So he was tall, you say
he had to be a seven footer and their parents
(05:44):
be like five five and five nine, Mom, five to five,
Dad five nine. You got foot. Yeah, see there you go.
You gotta check on it. You gotta check on it. Man,
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (05:56):
It's actually probably the Amazon man. Now if we're being
for being honest.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Saw Amazon man trip up the stairs yesterday as what's funny?
And I almost wrecked my car. Bro We were driving,
and we were driving and the dude came. He flashed
by like you know, like he was like running up
to deliver his his packages. And he flashed by and
he ran up. He ran up and said, and hit
one of them stairs. He didn't pick his foot up
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high enough. Yeah, you start when you start to go down,
you start to go real fast, like you speed up
your run. Try to to may he ain't making box
went up in the air, hit the steps, he ain't making.
He ain't make it. But that's all right, that's you know,
that's things you run into in Manhattan Beach. You know, slow,
ain't nothing going on, you know, you just you know,
(06:42):
you just have one of the moments so it was
a big laugh moment, though.
Speaker 8 (06:46):
I'll tell you that you checked. No, we pulled off.
He's an Amazon man, like you know, they're they're built tough.
You know, they can take a fall and keep on
keep on going.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
You know. Sure it was fine. I'm sure he was fine.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
I hope. So I'm to be half of the show.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Were you ever an Amazon delivery man? Me? Yeah? No,
because I'll be wondering why I'd be seeing so many
vampires walking around. Yeah, it must be the Amazon prejudice
against vampires.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
I don't get it. Why are you a vampire?
Speaker 4 (07:21):
I'm more of a werewolf guy. You know, I was
Team Werewolf, you know, just.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Telling you now. We mentioned tom Izzo earlier.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Do you remember that? Do y'all remember that when that
was like a thing and they were putting it on
like like fast food cups and stuff. What team are
you team Jacob or team What? What was the other
dude's name? Edward? Edward? There we go? It was Jacob
and Network right Ray quick on the draw?
Speaker 7 (07:46):
There, huh, I love me some Twilight.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Which team were you on? Edward or Jacob?
Speaker 9 (07:52):
For sure?
Speaker 4 (07:53):
There you go? Whoa Jesus?
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Yeah, I never saw that movie. So I have no
idea the one. No, it's too busy watching football.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
I heard it was based off of your true story,
to be honest.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Oh yeah, well they got bad tattoos and poor complexion.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Lebrettes. They had lebrettes. You know. There there was a
big bull mast if walking around, even though why would
you have a bull mass if you're probably gonna eat it,
you know, sucking's blood or whatever. I don't know. Yeah,
is that what happened to the boss out?
Speaker 5 (08:31):
You ate him a lot to eat? He was three
twenty five at the time, was passing.
Speaker 9 (08:37):
So.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Stick jumped over the gate. Yesterday, man was in the
neighbor's yard. It was a little scary, even though he's friendly.
I didn't want nobody to hurt him. But anyways, I digress.
Let's back to the story. Seven footers. Yeah, seven footers
these days, there's a lot of them, and they're in
the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
You guys have talked about the uh, we've got the
discussions about the issue with the transfer portal. You know,
non idea of the tournament's going on, and you know
you got this whole thing.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Opening up, open it up, right, tournament?
Speaker 5 (09:10):
Huh?
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Tom Izzoways asked about it and talking with the media
and his preparation for his Sweet sixteen matchup, and it
sounded something like this.
Speaker 10 (09:18):
Again, I'm gonna apologize to you, but I am ticked
off that you answered ask me that right now, because
I think you just cheated me. So if I keep talking,
I cheat my players, and I'll cheat myself before I'll
cheat my players. So another question about the transfer portal.
(09:38):
I can lift you a lot of schools. You can
call and ask them. They might have the better opinion
than me. All right, let's get back to some good things.
That's not insulting. I'm not mad at yet. I mean,
I'm kind of am, but I'm not really, but I
think you should know me well enough. But I learned
from Steven A and you have the right to ask
the question. I think it's ridiculous that the NCAA or
(10:02):
any other entity put these two things together. Is that
people like you have to ask these questions. And I
value that you have to ask them. And I do
get upset when you know people are talking to our
kids about them. Kids gotta do what they gotta do,
and they're really not doing what they got to do.
They're doing what their parents or their agents are telling
(10:24):
them to do, because they still got to go to practice,
going the same locker room unless they leave the team.
And I think that's insane. I think it's disgusting. But
you know that's my own personal opinion. We will always
have an eye on the transfer portal.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
So there was tom Izzo at the Michigan.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
I totally agree with him too. It puts these kids
and these universities in such like compromise positions, man like that,
here's why they're going to this tournament.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Geez Like, don't they have control over this? Like the
NCAA sets up, for example, these these windows. And there's
been some critics who have said that you can call
mid majors or whoever you how every want to categorize
some of the basketball teams, but especially these schools that
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don't have a football program so basketball is their major sport.
They've been hurt the most because of NIL. Which you
can debate that because some of these programs that don't
have football, they direct all their funds to men's.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
Basketball and so it actually enhances that.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
But anyway, the general point is if the NCAA controls
this and how they go about creating these transfer portal windows,
Why in the hell do they allow this to happen
during their largest money maker, the most important time of
the year for them.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
To make revenue.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
It doesn't make any sense at all sense And even
for football that have two it's like, it's hard for
me to understand how there could be so many flaws
in the decision making of the NCAA and really all
parties involved, like all the adults in the room that
create the college football calendar as well, when you're going
you have a professional model, like we are moving from
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an amateur model to a professional model, and we're doing
it it seems like at a painfully snail's pace, And
it's like, institute whether you want to call it one
transfer portal window or a free agency period like they
call in the NFL, like they call in every other
professional sport. Go ahead and institute a period of time
where that starts and ends, and do it where it's
(12:38):
in the off season. It's not complicated like the NCAA
and college sports act like we don't have a model
for this, Like they're so begrudgingly wanting to move the
ball forward and set up the calendar so it doesn't
put coaches and players in this position where you're trying
to play for a national championship. And John cal Perry
(12:58):
said it the other day, like he's going to be
meeting with players talking about their next opponent while also
simultaneously talking to them about if they're going to stay
on the team or not after the season.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
It is bizarre.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
It's like getting in the playoffs and NFL teams are
already having the following year's negotiations to whether or not
you know that player is going to sign back in
free agency or what they're going to do.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
And I just again, we have models that are set
up to avoid these sorts of issues. It's like it's
amateur hour with the NCAA and all parties involved who
are part of the decision making process, the calendars that
involved that allow the transfer portal to exist in the
window that it doesn't men's basketball and women's basketball for
that matter, and the windows that exist for college football.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
The fact you have two is ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
I mean, but there's a better way.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
To do this.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
Is it incompetence?
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (13:52):
They didn't just didn't think about it, like, oh, Damn,
that's that month.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
They'll tell you it's the academic calendar that that compromises them.
You're trying to figure out the proper time to give
these athletes these opportunities to seek a different school, and
it's based off of the academic structure. Some are quarterly,
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some are semesterly, right or as did I get that right?
Speaker 6 (14:23):
It's what's called an eligibility issue.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
So what LeVar is talking about is, you know, there's
still an eligibility component to these athletes, you know, being
able to play and be a part of it. Which
again a lot of people would debate whether or not
that matters, whether or not that should matter as you're
more moving to more of a professional world. I think
there's old school people like myself that feel like there's
a combination that can work. But I I, you know,
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i'd like to believe that there are those are excuses
to me, like they can use the academic calendar say oh, well,
it's about credits transferring their eligibility.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
Okay, we can find a common ground in them.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I know it's tough sometimes in the world of academia
to try to find, you know, agreements on certain topics.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
This shouldn't be that difficult. It really shouldn't be like.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Did the player pass or fail? What was the whether
it was the grade? Can we be accepting of the credits?
Like this is more of an admissions issue at most
institutions determining because because okay, if we're really going to
peel back the layers, a lot of schools with transfer
portal in particular with the student athletes, they're protective of
their degree and what they're doing is for the rest
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of their alumni base. They're saying, like, we don't want
a guy to pop in here who's only been here
a year and then finish having a degree with their
name on at our university, our branding, when they really
weren't here as a student for that long, right, because
it's unfair to every other person that actually paid tuition
and paid room and board and every books everything else
to come here and actually be here as a student
(15:51):
to then get their degree and then have that network
and have that that alma maters come back to. Like
it feels disingenuous, right, That is an essence what some
of these universities are trying to protect. And I can
get that to a degree, but I do think you're
carving out a special niche for sports, and it's not
that big.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
Of a population of students that are doing it.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
And I don't think if you changed some of the
rules around this that it would make I mean and
in fact, eliminiting one of the transfer portal windows, it
would limit these circumstances from happening as much like you
could find one time in the year where both semesters
and quarters would align where this can work. But again,
(16:33):
the NCAA doesn't view that as a priority, even though
I've said from for years now, the transfer portal is
the issue. It's not ANIL people who think that like
paying players, it's not pay for play. It's not ANIL.
However you want to describe what we're doing right now,
it is the transfer portal. We are not forcing young
people to commit to even a year of being at
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a school, especially in football, because you now have multiple
opportunities to believe if you so see fit m.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Yeah, it puts It puts players like kids in interesting
scenarios as well, like I'll give you a well, we're
up on the break, but just super quick. My daughter's transferring.
She's using the transfer portal because her coach went to
a different school, and which is.
Speaker 6 (17:20):
Always the case.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
It's always existed aside from the window right right and
so and and the way everything fell.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
She she she she hit the portal while it was
not it wasn't I guess open. So she has to
wait until the summer to be able to even get
her scholarship and go and roll into the school that
she's transferring to. So she's got to be at the
school that she's at instead of I hit the portal,
(17:49):
I hit the portal, I'm able to get up out
of there, like you know, d and roll and then boom,
go and roll into the next school. She has to
be there for the entirety of the semester that she's
in right now, just based upon when her coach left,
you know what I mean. So it's it's like sometimes
it hits these kids in a way where it's like
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man like, you know what I mean, And then they're recruiting,
you know what I mean. So it's like that coach
leaves at a time where the portal isn't open for
the kids that are there. They want to follow the coach,
you know, And and I'm obviously the coach probably wants
them to follow with them. They can't, Like really, they
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can't recruit them for one, right, So so now there's
that disadvantage, but they have to start recruiting to build
the roster of the team that they're going to have,
you know what I mean. So there are like.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Windows that are in there, and the windows it's open
for them at that new school, because that's correct.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
It's only open for correct.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
But but let me, I'm gonna go back to the
academic issuecause I'm gonna give you one example. A family
moves in high school. A kid ends up moving in
February or March right of that spring. Do you think
this school district that he moves to is like, Nope,
can't accept him. Got to wait until the next you's
got to set out of school for the next few months. Right, No,
they accept them, they n't roll them. They figure out
who may have waken it and making it work. Like
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that's just one example that we do at a high
school level or junior high level or whatever else we
want to talk about where that happens frequently and we
figure out a way of making a work like this
isn't that complicated, but we sure as heck, find a
way to make it complicated.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
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Speaker 4 (20:27):
All right?
Speaker 3 (20:28):
So we were talking about the Quescia Dolpha Mensa comments
about the situation in Minnesota quarterback Kevin O'Connell's relationship with Aaron.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
Rodgers, etc. Etc.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Why does it feel like they've continued to keep the
door open for speculation about somebody other than JJ McCarthy
being the quarterback when there's been plenty of opportunities to
close it.
Speaker 9 (20:54):
Because I think they have a team that is in
position to win right now. In other words, they're not
in the position that a lot of teams that young
quarterbacks are, which is their rebuilding or they're just the
start of something. You know, this is a fourteen win team.
This is a team that's got a lot of accomplished veterans.
And you guys know the names Justin Jeffson, Christian Barrisaw,
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you know, Jonathan Gernard, Byron Murphy, like Harrison Smith, Like,
how do you go to those guys and tell them
you've done everything he possibly can to give them the
best possible answer a quarterback when it's just a guy
coming a guy who's never played an NFL game, who's
never dressed for an NFL game, And that's nothing against J. J. McCarthy,
is just a fact, you know. You know, I think
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there's you know, there's there's there's that feeling I think
for them that we got to do everything we possibly
can to make sure that we're covered at that position.
And so look like he lost a lot of weight
last year, he lost four months of on field development time,
and you know, I think there are fair questions and
how that's going to affect him going in to twenty
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twenty five. Doesn't mean he's never going to be a
great player. They lost belief in him or anything like that.
It's just sort of where you are, you know, when
you have the team that you have and you have
the quarterback situation they do, and look they telegraph it too.
I mean they offered Daniel Jones fifteen million to stay.
They offered Sam Darnold more than that. Yeah, Aaron Rodgers
is a different deal because with Aaron Rodgers, instead of
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like creating competition in the room, you would be sort
of slamming on the pause button on the JJ McCarthy
era in Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
But I mean make no.
Speaker 9 (22:33):
Mistake about, like, you know, the way they've they've they've
conducted themselves here. You know, they want insurance against McCarthy.
And I think a huge part of it has to
do with the makeup of the team that they have
right now.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
So does that mean that basically the Pittsburgh Steelers then
have to play the wedding game with Rogers because if
he wants to drag this thing out, I mean, they're
kind of limited with with what their options are. I
guess they could trade for cousins. I guess they could
draft a quarterback if one drops to them, But what
are the ses doing this case if Rogers wants to
wait this thing out to see how the vice continue
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to evaluate him.
Speaker 9 (23:06):
Yeah, yeah, and I think that, like, and the problem
with that, Brady is, you know, is like they don't
get on the field until May. You know, Like, so
I think OTAs I want to I want to say,
like usually teams start those and I don't have the
calendar in front of me for this particular year, but
I think it's something like May twentieth. When most teams start,
they're on field stuff like you know, for the first
(23:28):
month of the off season. Programs just strength and conditioning
and stuff like that. So you know, I like that,
Like it's is is Aaron Rodgers willing to wait until
Memorial Day or until the end of the off season
program for the Vikings to get a full evaluation, or
you know, is he gonna Is he going to go
in with the Feelers? I think he does wind up
(23:49):
signing with the Feelers, you know, And I do think that,
you know that, I think that happens like and and again,
like Aaron's his own guy, So this could happen intentally,
this could happen in ten minutes. I don't know, but
I do think that Aaron Rodgers winds up with the Steelers.
But you can see where the idea of the Vikings
would intrigue Rogers, and you know, on the flip side,
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you can see why the Vikings might be a little
bit more hesitant on this one versus versus Jones or
Donald where Jones or Donald, like, there's a realistic scenario
if you bring either of those guys back or McCarthy
is the starting quarterback on October first, regardless, right, if
you bring Rogers in, that's that's not happening. You know,
like you are you are you are you know, pushing
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McCarthy a year down the road, and obviously that can
have different implications.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Speaking of implications of Aaron Rodgers, obviously the New York
Giants moved off of bringing him in and signed Jamis
Winston and Russell Wilson recently. Well do you think that
does to their draft board?
Speaker 9 (24:53):
Ab I think at the very least, it gives them
the flexibility not to take a quarterback at three and
not force it anywhere in the top one hundred. You know,
essentially it looks like they'd rather have Aaron Rodgers there.
So don't get me wrong, you know what I mean?
Like that, they clearly telegraphed that, and you know before
that it was let's get Matthew Stafford here. So they
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were willing to spend the money. But you know, in
place of having you know, say a thirty five million
dollars contract with Aaron Rodgers, you know, now you're looking
at where for under fifteen million dollars, they've got two
guys on the roster that can start a game for
you tomorrow. They have had a ton of starting experience
in Rogers and Jamis, and you know, on top of
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that five picks in the top one oh five, So
you know, for right now, at least, it gives them
the flexibility not to force the quarterback position. And you know,
I think like where that leaves them is, you know,
right there in play at number three for ab Dual
Carter or Travis Hunter, and it gives them the chance
to take the best player there. And I think most
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people both teams would tell you that, you know, there's
it's those two guys in this year's draft class, Carter
and Hunter, and then there's a draft and then there's
a bit of a drop off to the next group,
and the next group is pretty big, so so yeah,
I mean, I think gives them the flexibility to just
go into the draft and take the best player and
and you and if you're Brian Daball, you'd hope that
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you know, one of the guys that you have in
the roster right now is enough to get you at
least into the playoff conversation where you can save your
job and maybe address the quarterback position again. In twenty
twenty six.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Albert Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, AB
is it more based on what people you've talked to,
more likely that shudor Sanders could end up in Cleveland
at two or Las Vegas at.
Speaker 11 (26:47):
Six, I would say clearly, I would say Cleveland's more
likely based on what I know about those two teams
and where they're at.
Speaker 9 (27:00):
I think Vegas takes the best player at six. I
think Cleveland is I think juggling a bunch of different
things here.
Speaker 11 (27:09):
Now.
Speaker 9 (27:09):
If you put a gun to my head today today
and ask me, who are they going to take it to?
Iday abdual Carter, and I've said that for a little while,
I think it makes sense. He's a great set, he'd
be a great fit for Jim Schwartz's defense there, and
the idea obviously of putting him opposite Miles Garrett his channel.
I think. So, you know, I think the the likelihood
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is that they wind up drafting Abdul Carter. That'd be
my guest right now. But I think that I don't
think Schuur is a horrible fit for for Kevin Stefanski whatsoever.
I do think it's something they have considered as it's
become less and less likely that Cam Wore is going
to make it to them and two and so yeah,
now we'll see what happens. And I think the Kirk
(27:52):
Cousins thing is sitting out there for them too, and
that Kevin Stansky's got backgroundal Cousins, he worked with him
for two years in Minnesota, you know. And I think,
like in a certain way, and this is sort of
an interesting twist the whole thing. Cousins has told people
he's not going to wave hiss no trade clause until
after the draft because he doesn't want to be in
a situation like he was last year, where you know,
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he signed somewhere or goes somewhere. In this case, he
would be signing somewhere to be trade trade somewhere, and
then you know, his new team winds up drafting someone
in the top ten. In in a way, I think
that sort of helps Cleveland too, where you know, like
they can evaluate Chador and Jackson Dark, Tyler Schuck and
Will Howard and all the different guys in this year's class.
(28:36):
Quinn yever is like and and and and and then
revisit Kirk after after the first night of the draft,
you know. And so I still think there's a possibility
that they come out of draft weekend with both Kirk
Cousins and abdual Carter and then maybe they take a
quarterback somewhere late later in like the top hundred picks or.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
So, I know we're getting uh it was still ways
away from the draft, but I don't want to get
ahead of ourselves. Is there a team that you'd keep
an eye on that you think is gonna be active
in trying to trade up or being able to make
a trade possible to trade up?
Speaker 9 (29:09):
Yeah, I mean I think like I mean, I like,
if you're talking about like high in the first round Brady,
which is almost always for a quarterback, you know. I
just think like there are a couple of teams that,
you know, like that they're always looking and you know,
I think that that they have general managers that like
have you know, shown that they're willing to be aggressive
(29:31):
in Seattle and Pittsburgh where it's like okay, like you know,
like look at how Seattle landed on Russell Wilson in
the first place, you know what I mean, they kept
taking swings at getting the quarterback position right right. Pittsburgh
like you know, they they they struck out on Kenny
Pickett a couple of years ago, Like do they feel
like they've got to attack this from multiple angles? You know,
(29:53):
in the way that you know, and even if they
get Aaron Rodgers. I mean, people forget like that, you know,
when when the Rocos signed Peyton Manning that same year
they they drafted brock Osweiler, When the Bucks signed Tom
Brady that same year, they drafted Kyle Trask. You know, Like,
so we've seen this before where you sort of attack
it from both angles, and I could certainly see Pittsburgh
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doing something like that. So I don't think it's like
because I just don't think the quarterbacks this year on
the level that we saw, you know, for example, the
quarterbacks last year. You know, but if there was somebody
out of left field, maybe somebody like that would would
would make a short move up if somebody starts flying.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Like.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Was it true that is there any truth to the
fact that New York was trying to get to number
one and Tennessee didn't didn't go for it? Did you
hear that one?
Speaker 10 (30:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (30:46):
So, like I I would say, like those things have
been explored. I know, the Giants have sort of explored
everything with our here's the Titans approached this whole thing,
and this has been their approach, And you know, I like,
I think this goes back to to to really the
beginning of the process. As you know, they brought in
a new general manager, Mike Borganzi, and he brought guys
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like Dave Ziggler and Reggie McKenzie with him. The whole
idea of for for them was we control this because
we have the first pick. Nobody can get in front
of us. So we want to go through a full
process with the four guys that we look as you know,
look at as viable options for that first overall pick.
Those four guys are Cam mooresh to do our Standers,
(31:30):
Abdul Carter, and Travis Hunter. So you know, like there
are at a time at the point now where they're
going through the pro day process. I believe LeVar Penn
State's pro day tomorrow, right, it is tomorrow, Yeah, tomorrow,
and then and then Colorado is next week. So they
get past that, they'll do their private workouts and then
you know, okay, like you know, now, either we've made
the decision on what we're going to do and who
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we're going to take and we're not really entertaining main
calls for the first overall pick, or we're open for business,
you know, and that's not assessing what's available to them
at the first overall pick. It's also looking at okay,
if we went down to two or three and like
cam Mooard's off the table for us, then you know
what are we looking looking at?
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Like?
Speaker 9 (32:11):
And other options here? In other words, like do we like,
you know, abdual Carter so much that we don't want
to drop to two because we're afraid if we you know,
drop to two, Or we don't want to drop to
three because you know, we're afraid that abdual Carter will
be gone if we got if we go two, you
know what I mean, like if we if abdual card
be gone at three? Right, Yeah, I took myself up there,
(32:33):
you know what I'm saying. So, so they wanted to
go through all that, and that's sort of where they
are right now and just kind of trying to assess
all of that. And I would I would think, you know,
that'll all crystallize for them, you know, probably mid April,
and then they'll make the final decision on whether or
not they're even going to entertain the guy give over
the pick.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
We got like twenty seconds here, Sorry, just try to
fit this in, is it true? Cleveland has also called
Tennessee to try to trade out for that one pick
and then anything to the Dak Prescott rumored by Bruce Drennan,
a guy who spent I think five years in federal prison,
anything to that.
Speaker 9 (33:10):
I have not addressed the Dak Prescott thing because I
I don't know that it can be taken seriously, So
I'll just believe that where it is. I have not
heard anything about Dak Trescott being moved. But but but
but I think Cleveland has explored all their options here.
So you know, again, look, I think you know what
most teams and and I don't that stuff's going very
(33:32):
far yet because you know, just the Titans have you know,
again taken this approach like we want all the information
on the top guys, and I, you know, my gut
tells me Brady that they're going to sit there and
take Cam moored at number one. But you know, who's
just you know, we could get to the middle of
April and they decide the better thing is is to
trade down a couple of spots. It's just I think
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you look at like the way they've operated thus far,
and again, everything that they've done seems to set up
to to draft and support quarterback get.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Him on x at Albert Breer, we appreciate it as always.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
We'll do it again next week. Thanks aby Ty, Thank guy.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
There is the great Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter at
the MMQB, Amazon NFL on Primes coverage there at the
star of the show, joining us here every single Thursday.
Coming up next here that we are going to close
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What a day ahead for Lee to lap? We are
gonna start off with taking off right after the show.
I'm gonna be dropping off Loreena at Burbank Airport.
Speaker 7 (35:24):
We'll be saying goodbye to her for the week.
Speaker 12 (35:27):
Farewell Ray Ray, Ye at least lax, so I appreciate that.
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Speaker 7 (35:36):
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who do we got?
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Mighty Mark? Yes, we have mighty sweet.
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Speaker 12 (35:49):
On top of that, I got a movie screening. My
buddy surprised me. He flew in also from Burbank Airport.
Picked him up from the airport yesterday. He's a writer
of this new movie called Come with Me with Ron Pearlman,
Theo ROSSI remember him from Sons of Anarchy.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
Writer.
Speaker 7 (36:04):
He wrote this movie.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
Yeah, your friend that you picked up? Yep, okay, yep.
Uh Are you going with a date other than.
Speaker 7 (36:11):
I'm taking my mom because she used to proof the
scripts back.
Speaker 6 (36:14):
In the day.
Speaker 12 (36:18):
Who else, No, just my mom, you know the girls,
the girls at work. Uh, this guy, I went to
film school with him. He's a writer, the worst big
feature film and my mom used to proof read his scripts.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Like a big deal, dude, you work with the pizza
place with no no, but he was around during those days,
like a big deal, is a big deal.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
I'm work.
Speaker 7 (36:41):
His name is Jonathan Crum. He's a great writer. Very
happy for him.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
I'm not a big fan of his work, to be
honest with you.
Speaker 12 (36:48):
And then after that, of course, we got MLB Opening day,
We've got Sweet sixteen. I'm gonna go to Champs after
the screening watch it. And then uh, after that, we
got Paul American on HBO, the uh the unexposed little
known humans known as Jake and Logan Paul finally share
their lives with the public.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
So Macie, tomorrow might be a touch and go, yeah said.
Speaker 7 (37:10):
It's a busy day.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
Oh oh here.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
We go here. At least at least we know, Yeah,
at least we know.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
And I hope marks that uh you know, tomorrow is
going to be a little dicey.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
All right, it's been a fun show, guys.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
We'll have fun Lee all right guys, Yeah good Safe travels, Loverina,
Thanks alrighty
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