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April 29, 2025 40 mins

Damien Lillard's torn Achilles is a blow to Giannis and the Bucks. Bill Belichick and his girlfriend go viral for a dumpster fire interview. NFL Insider, Pete Prisco breaks down The Draft. Plus, Beyonce’s concert on Lee’s Leftovers.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio, Very superstitious, Two Pros
and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington,
Jonas Knox with you here.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
No, Brady Quinn.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
He was on the show earlier, but the second we
started talking about Derek Carr's guest sermon at.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Am Jesus Church, Jesus took him out.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
A lightning bolt hit his com rex Field tap or
is Lucy whatever the hell they do.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
The Notre Dame. So you know football, Jesus hit his
laand yeah, touchdown Jesus sir. Excuse you remember where you
came from? Don't you go there? Don't you get in
this conversation?

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Yeah, technical issues. We will be connecting back with Brady
coming up on the show tomorrow. So it is Stix
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Speaker 3 (01:28):
If you're with us earlier.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
The news out of the NFL is this, George Kittle
is now the highest paid tight end in the league.
He gets a four years, seventy six million dollar deal,
so the Niners lock him up for the near future
and then now we wait to see whether or not
they'll get the deal done with Brock Purty. The Golden
State Warriors have taken a three to one series lead
over the Houston Rockets in a really really fun game

(01:52):
to watch, physical old school basketball. So that was fun
last night. Damian Lillard unfortunate news. It was an achilles
tear that everybody suspected when he went down with the injury.
So not only is he out for whatever the rest
of the playoffs are from Milwaukee, but his next season
is also in jeopardy, so there's a thought he might

(02:12):
miss next season.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
Guys in his mid thirties that deep. He got a
little ways to go on that type of an injury.
That deal.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Look, I know that Milwaukee was trying to find somebody
to go alongside Jannis and they won one championship and
they felt like they you know, there was a window
there and they should have won more. That window feels
like it's closed. We can talk about the Niners window,
I mean Milwaukee and the Bucks window feels like it's closed.
The deal has not worked out for anybody involved any Yeah,

(02:44):
but at.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
Least they won one. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
But and I got an MVP out of the deal.
Like that is very different from what Sam Franz got
going on. It also led to the Celtics winning a title.
From this standpoint, Milwaukee thought they were going to be
King of the East. They made the deal, and part
of that deal to bring in Damian Lillard was trading
away Drew Holiday. Well, the Celtics had Malcolm Brogden. He

(03:10):
was unhappy because he found out they tried to deal him.
And so the Celtics were able to unload Malcolm Brogden
to the to the Portland Trailblazers in exchange.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
For Drew Holiday. They went on and won a title.
Their defense improved, like Drew Holiday Derek White were key
members of that championship team a year ago, and meanwhile
the Milwaukee Bucks have just been scrambling Doc Rivers? Is
that like it just the whole thing has not worked.
And now you know, Lillard's going to be probably out
the entirety of next year as well too.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
So it sucks.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
That's unfortunate. It definitely is unfortunate. But that's that's all
a part of it. It's part of sports. And hopefully Dame,
you know, gets hisself put back together again and is
able to you know, continue his career and you know,
and and and be the better for it. I mean,
as far as Giannis, I don't know, you know, does

(04:06):
he end up staying in in Milwaukee, does a trade happen?
Who knows? You just don't know. In the NBA, because
you know, players have so much power and so much pool,
there's there's ways to generate, you know, force trades anymore.
So I don't know what his future looks like. I
just know Jannie is one of the best players in

(04:29):
the NBA and could have easily been and should be
in the conversation for MVP of the league this year.
And he's already wonted you know, a couple times, so,
you know, and looking at where Milwaukee is, it's possible.
It's possible they may be in a blow it up

(04:52):
type of scenario and situation, and you know, what does
that look like? I don't know, will they ever be
as relevant as they have been over to last you know,
several years, who knows. But they did get a championship
out of it, they did get a league MVP out
of it, and so at least they can say that

(05:12):
because in comparison, like you just mentioned to San Francisco,
no league MVPs, super Bowl appearances, but close, no cigar,
and close only counts in the horseshoes and hand grenades.
So you're not you're not looking at it and it
being the same thing, like it's great that Kittle gets

(05:36):
his his deal, becomes the highest paid tight end. That's
that's a great feel good story. But largely they have
underperformed and under under delivered if you're looking at what
their roster looked, that looked like, and how far they
were able to take it. Now, granted, you may say

(05:58):
that's not fair to say when you have missed irrelevant
as your quarterback when it was supposed to probably be
as you mentioned earlier in the show, which, by the way,
if you missed any of the show, you can always
go back and look up Two Pros and a Cup
of Joe and you can listen to it on the podcast.
But you were talking about how they drafted Trey Lance

(06:18):
and they were anticipating Trey Lance to be the guy
for the job moving into the future, and he's not
even on the roster anymore, and he's now on his
third team. And so to me, you don't have the
same you don't have the same feel good.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
You know what if all else fails. Yep.

Speaker 4 (06:37):
We went to a Super Bowl. Yep, we won. We
won one of those Super Bowls. We can rebuild it
and go back and do it all over again, and
it might take some time, but we at least had
an MVP. We won a championship. Da Da Dad, this,
that and the other. The forty nine ers don't have
that to lean on. Speaking of leaning on something, yep,

(06:59):
oh uh, I actually like the other station. The other
channel was actually doing better than TIA. My TIA is strong,
but my other channel was doing all right. I don't know,
I mean, maybe we should have did it somewhere else,
like we're losing over here, Like that's there were sliding
on that one side.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
That's a slide. That's a slide, all right.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
So Bill Belichick U is now the head coach of
the North Carolina tar Heels.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
And I think we all know where this one is going.
He's been really leaning on his privacy for a long time.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
Oh wait, wait, wait, wait, wait wait, you gotta be
careful at your word play. Okay, Well, he's been leaning
on his what private privacy for all privacy? Okay, I
mean if he could, because I feel like right now
this story is its him leaning on his private instead
of leaning on his mind and reasoning.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
So, uh, let's take a listen back.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
I mean, if you can lean on it, it'll be
good for you. That's something.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
But uh, but let's take a listen because we do
have apparently an update on this whole fiasco that went down.
This was Bill Belichick being interviewed by CBS over the
weekend with his girlfriend in the background, Jordan Hudson.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
Let's take a listen. Jordan was a constant presence during
our interview.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
You have Jordan right over there.

Speaker 5 (08:32):
Everybody in the world seems to be following this relationship.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
They've got an opinion.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
About your private life.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
It's got nothing to do with them, but they're invested
in it. How do you deal with that?

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Never been too worried about what everybody else thanks, just
to try to do what I feel like is that's
for me?

Speaker 3 (08:47):
And what's right?

Speaker 6 (08:48):
How did you guys meet not talking about this?

Speaker 4 (08:51):
No, no, it's a topic neither one of them is
comfortable commenting on.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
And what world do you rock like that? With Bill Belichick?

Speaker 4 (09:03):
Man, hasn't he always been one in charge?

Speaker 3 (09:09):
She is in charge, my gee.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
According to TMZ, that awkward, uncomfortable situation was even worse.
TMZ is reporting that Bill Belichick's disastrous CBS interview was
worse They had to cut out thirty minutes from it.
Jordan Hudson stormed out in the middle of it and

(09:35):
expected Bill a follower. So not only was it really
really awkward in what aired and why it was even done,
we were talking about it yesterday a little bit like.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
Why even do it? What was the point of it?

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Because she's sitting there basically running point on the production
of everything and telling everybody what you can and cannot
talk about. And now we find out it was even
worse than that, and she stormed out, got a bit
of a red ass herself, decided to bail on the interview,
and apparently was expecting him to follow her. And I'm
not sure that he that he did, which may lead

(10:09):
to some some more issues. That's what you call a
live wire. You know, you touch a live wire. You
know what happened, You get.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
Shocked, you know, I just there's a little more.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Oh, go ahead, just go ahead, point out, please do,
please do it's According to TMZ Sports, the whole ordeal
isn't sitting well with Bill's employers. We're told folks at
North Carolina are now concerned about Hudson's influence on Belichick's
tenure as the head football coach in Chapel Hill, especially
with her essentially taking on a role as his manager.

(10:46):
As a source put it, there's a quote growing sense
this could become a problem. It could be if the
school is already saying, hey, man, like that, this is
an issue you.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
I mean, I can just imagine what that's like behind
the scenes. That is crazy.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
I told you there under your hand, that's crazy. You
couldn't find a glass. That's crazy. You want to talk
about crazy ass hours. That's why I was pointing out
that is crazy.

Speaker 7 (11:20):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
And you know what else is crazy?

Speaker 4 (11:22):
This story And I'm gonna tell you why, because this
kind of screams. This kind of screams there has to
be a trade off for me to be dealing with
your old ass.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
What trade off is that?

Speaker 4 (11:35):
I don't know, like you and power, Hey, what would
you rather have Shannon Sharp or Bill Belichick? I just say,

(11:56):
I'm just saying, would you rather have your your ass
under wraps? And then you know, like and all the
reason why, I mean, really, let's make these comparable. There
are significant age gaps in between the man and the
woman in both of these scenarios.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Here's the the part that was just weird that I didn't.
I know, we all talked about it whatever, but it
was like heah, you know, he's older than her and
she's this and that. It's like, hey, listen, you know
he's single, he's doing his thing, file whatever, It's not
our business.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
I didn't.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
I didn't actually grasp how weird it was until the
guy who was doing the interview for CBS described it
and said the following, you know, Bill, we've seen, uh.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
You know, a lot of you.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
You've always had a really private life, but we've seen
now it's been on Instagram. There was pictures of you
and Jordan. You were on the beach. You were dressed
up as a fisherman. She was dressed up as a mermaid. Yeah,
she's she's she's orchestrating the whole thing.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
Wait, wait, wait, what can I remember? I remember seeing
it in real time at the time and being like, oh, okay,
she's orchestrating the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
Would you describe it like that? That's Bill Belichick dressed
as the vandicamp's mascot. Yeah, while she's.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
Laying on on whatever it is the surface that they
were on.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
What are we doing here? A boardwalk?

Speaker 1 (13:20):
It's long John Silver and he's got the stunt double
from Splash on.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
The sand and they're taking it stupid.

Speaker 4 (13:30):
I think it was a boardwalk. It was like a
pair or something. I saw the flixs. All I'm saying is, bro,
there's always a There's always a backstory. Bro, There's always
a backstory. And the shorty girl for is Sharp made
it very clear she's she's a only fans type cat

(13:54):
like twenty five. G's a cheek. There's a price to
be paid when you're giving up that many years, that
much knowledge. There's a price to be paid.

Speaker 6 (14:06):
Now.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
What that price is, I don't know, but her actions
and her activities are making it a public conversation. And
for Bill Belichick to now be where he's at, it
almost makes him a person now. And the reason why
I think Bill Belichick had such a superpower in New

(14:29):
England was that we did not think he was of
this planet. He didn't handle things in a normal manner.
He didn't talk to you in a normal manner, almost
like an alien.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
And because he won, you left him on the hell alone.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
He he's now, he's like, he's like Superman at the
bar after he left and said he ain't want to
be Superman anymore. You sitting there and you think you
Superman until do pop you in your lip and you're like,
what what's that?

Speaker 3 (14:59):
What's that? I'm bleeding that? That's that?

Speaker 6 (15:05):
Ow?

Speaker 3 (15:06):
That hurt? Like I'm bleeding? Like, hey, Bill, you got
to move on.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
Yes, hey, let me tell you something, and you got
to do it now because.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
I don't I don't care. She's the same age as you.

Speaker 7 (15:23):
If she's interfering and interrupting and injecting herself into the
conversations into your business that way, that's bad for business.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
Yeah, Like, well, and now you're bad for business and
legitimately bad for business if your employers are like, hey,
this is a problem, like this is a problem.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
Because now it's in question, Like I don't care, Like
you want to deal with a little kid as long
as she's she's of age, she's she's legal.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
That seems to be what the.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
New trend is lately, like get them soon as they
turn eighteen or HiT's nineteen. I don't know if that's
your your deal, I guess that's you know, just don't
do it with my daughters. But in the end, in
the end, if they are inserting themselves into your world

(16:18):
where they're suing you for fifty million dollars and turning
down ten million dollars, or they're injecting themselves into scenarios
that where you're representing yourself and your business and the
institution that you're coaching for, and that is turning into
a thing, and y'all don't know how to handle it

(16:39):
any better than that, then don't have her there. If
you if you need to not have her around. Don't
have her around. You knew something was going to be
interesting by the way she was dressed out the spring game.
It's a spring game. If you don't take that ass
off and put on some some sweatpants and a North

(17:01):
Carolina sweatshirt with some sneakers and walk your hands on
and off that field if you want to with a clipboard.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
Fine, but you got on.

Speaker 4 (17:12):
You look like you head on like a ten fifteen
thousand dollars outfit for spring.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
Let me check this out, and their football team ain't
even like that. Oh yeah, yeah something. It just this, Jonas.

Speaker 4 (17:31):
What this does and what it creates is like you said,
now it forces the questions to be asked. And now
you gotta start answering the questions because the questions are
going to keep coming.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
And now there's more questions.

Speaker 4 (17:47):
Because now you like intrigue, like hold on, something ain't
right here.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
Some don't seem right, some don't feel right.

Speaker 4 (17:55):
Why does this lady feel so entitled to be able
to handle Ain't nobody else's girlfriend's wife's side pieces, ain't
no baby mama's Ain't nobody else's handling things like this?

Speaker 3 (18:08):
Why are you doing this? Now, why are you doing this?

Speaker 4 (18:13):
And now them questions ain't going away, and Bill, you're
gonna have to either start answering them or you gotta
get rid of her.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
Got to go. It was fun while it lasted. You
probably have had the greatest time of your life.

Speaker 4 (18:31):
But just like anything else, all good things must come
to an end.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
What do you think they were doing. They're sitting at
home like it was a Tuesday night. They're flipping around,
they start watching Deadliest Catching, like, you know what, we
could do that too. Bruh, here you fall out of
a crab. All he wants to do is football, dress
up like a fisherman off.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
She then blew his mind she pause.

Speaker 4 (18:57):
She them blown, not man's mind, and now he ain't
thinking straight. Even the great Bill Belichick can fall victim.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
That's that's yeah, that is well, that's what I meant
about what I said. Hey, listen, man, maybe that was
a part of that walk of shame. Remember that walk
of shame.

Speaker 4 (19:15):
I mean, he don't have no shame, he's Bill Belichick.
But now it's starting to become common knowledge.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
Shamee oh no, Shane, oh no, Shae oh no, oh Shane.

Speaker 4 (19:29):
All right, Let's go to Shane, Let's go to I just,
I just, I'm just saying, like the way she's Sunday,
she sudden the interviewer and she was trying to son
Bill Belichick. Don't you dare open your mouth while Bill
Belichick is talking? Who do you think you are to
open your mouth during a Bill Belichick interview? The reporters

(19:51):
don't even open their mouths to the god dag Bill Belichick,
and you sitting over there telling Bill Belichick and the
reporter what they ain't gonna do.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
Tale it is baby, two pro.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
Whew, Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Here on
Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you. Coming
up next, though, we are going to get the very
latest fallout from the NFL Draft with the one and
only Red Ass himself, Pete Prisco right here on FSR.

Speaker 8 (20:28):
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Speaker 3 (20:43):
It's Two Pros and a Cup of Joe.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here.
We are going to close up shop a little over
fifteen minutes from now with another edition of Lee's Leftovers.
That'll be yours here on fs HAR But right now
it is a Tuesday tradition. He's a smooth operator. He
is a man who is reeling from another successful draft evaluation.

(21:08):
Unlike mel kiper Junior, He's not gonna bitch if he
gets something wrong.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
Oh, he didn't crash out like now.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
He's the one and only p Prisco, senior NFL columnist
for CBS Sports, CBS Sports HQ analysts get him on
X if you want that smoke at Prisco CBS Pete,
Good morning, Happy Tuesday.

Speaker 6 (21:25):
What's up, guys?

Speaker 3 (21:26):
How are you why your boy fall apart like that man?

Speaker 6 (21:30):
That was ridiculous because you know why, because he made
a football evaluation based on what he thought he saw,
and the league sent out a message on what they
saw and he got angry about it. I mean, look,
here's the problem with draft evaluations. Nobody can ever admit
they're wrong. Teams are wrong, GM's are wrong, coaches are wrong,
evaluators are wrong, media analysts are wrong. We all get

(21:53):
it wrong. So why can't you admit it? He was wrong.
Jador Sanders was not the number four overall player indust draft.
He never was, and for anybody if you go back
and look at it, I'm one of the few guys
in the entire industry that thought he would be a
second round pick in who they should mock draft? He
wasn't in it. In my final mock draft. He wasn't
in it. Should he have been in a third round pick?

(22:15):
Probably based on what based on the play? You know,
everybody wants to bring in every other issue involved here.
They want to say it is his dad. They want
to say it was his bad interviews, and yet his
interviews weren't great, and he was stand office at times
and teams were turned off by him a little bit.
But the reality is the reason he wasn't drafted in

(22:36):
the first round is because he doesn't have the traits.
He's not a big guy, he doesn't have a powerful arm,
he's not athletic, he doesn't move great, and he holds
the football. That's the bottom line. If he were a
same exact scenario, same exact scenario, same situation, didn't interview well,
doesn't have as a father who's very involved nobody wants

(22:58):
to father around in the same exact scenario. And he's
six foot five and he's got a cannon for an
arm and he can stand in and make all the
throws he goes first. Overall, bottom line, end.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Of story, Pete, What do you make of just sort
of the there was like when Dylan Gabriel went and
Jalen Milroe went before that and all that, it was like, well,
you know, he's dropping because of this.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
He's dropping because.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
And then the coverage became and and I sort of
wondered if NFL teams were looking at it and the
coverage of him falling and going, this is.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
Exactly why we don't want this. This is exactly why.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Because even he doesn't get drafted, and there's the circus
that surrounds it.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
And I'm not saying that.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Look, he's like, they bring a lot of this on themselves,
but facts are facts. I mean, like, why would you
want a loud backup and a loud locker room similar
to the Kaepernick stuff, similar to the Tim Tebow stuff,
Like there's been other examples of this, but people looked
at this as he was being victimized and the prank

(24:03):
calls and everything, Like, what was your take on just
sort of the coverage of the whole thing while it
was transpiring.

Speaker 6 (24:10):
It was unfair to every other player was drafted. Did
you know that cam Ward went first overall? No, you don't,
because all anybody talked about was shood door Sanders, shoe
door Sanders, shoed door Sanders, and it's it's ridiculous. And
you know I went on after he got drafted and
I said, my long national nightmare is finally over. I mean,
I can go on with my life. It was unreal,
the media coverage and the moaning and groaning and crying.

(24:32):
You mentioned Mel Kuiper. Look, I Mel's done this for
a long time. He's got plenty wrong. Okay, we all
have but to sit there and say and the things
that he said about the NFL because his guy didn't
get picked forth overaw, you missed your evaluation. It were wrong.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
It's called a mock draft for reason. It's not real.
It's a mock.

Speaker 6 (24:53):
But their big board, Yeah, don't forget about their big board.

Speaker 4 (24:57):
The big board make money off of it. That way,
that's he has to be. It's empore. He crashed out
because for one, it's important for I thought it was
more ego driven than it was protecting Shador or even
be washing.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
Yeah, I thought it was more so.

Speaker 4 (25:16):
I thought it was more so about him making it
about himself in that moment, and that's that's what to me,
that's what made the crash out so interesting, Like why
are you that outraged? Like you can't be like you're
only outrage that it's that far away from your projection, Like, oh,
it's never happened. I've had somebody rate it this high.

(25:37):
It's never happened where they've gone this far away from
where I've had, Like, come on, bro, like I get it,
but you know, let me ask you this and then
I want to be done with the Shador talk. I
feel like, for what it's worth, you're right that it
takes away from the other players and talking about.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
Shador like that.

Speaker 4 (25:56):
But I feel like it takes away from Shador because
it actually whether the kid is a little arrogant or
whatever it is people.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
Want to label them. I don't care what you label him.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
He's still a young man and he's still growing into himself.
There are a lot of guys that are really confident
in themselves and handle themselves that way.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
But Pete, don't you feel.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
Like when things like this kind of transpire and it
develops into the way that you had Steven A. Smith
comparing the situation to a Colin Kaepernick like situation, you're
basically destroying the kid's career before he even gets an
opportunity to go out there and try and prove it

(26:39):
on the field.

Speaker 6 (26:42):
Well, again, there's a hyperboble color from Steven A. Smith too.
I mean, give me a break, come on, it's a
football evaluation that if you and you know this, LaVar,
if you're here on a football evaluation and your talent
is up here, then you can get away with stuff
over here. On the other side, if it starts to
equalize and your talent comes down and the crap goes up,

(27:04):
then they start having major concerns for you. If the
crap goes up and the talent is lower, then you're
going to have problems. And that's exactly what happens here.
And if the guy, all things being equaled, if that
was the prototypical stand in the pocket, even the athletic
Jade Daniels who was Jaden Daniels from a year ago,

(27:24):
or Caleb Williams from a year ago. He still goes
first overall, second overall. It's not the that's not the problem.
The problem isn't the stuff that comes with him. The
stuff that comes with him becomes more of an impact
when you're not as good as your your evaluation is,
and the league clearly fentimental. You know, everybody points to
his college numbers and what he did in college. You

(27:47):
want me to go through a laundry list of guys.
Danny Wirfel at the University of Florida might have been
one of the greatest college quarterbacks who ever played the game.
He stood in there. He was tough, he took a beating,
he understood coverages, he got the ball out, he read
the field. But you know why couldn't make in the NFL.
He wasn't a high draft pick because he'd have a
great arm. I mean, you can go on and on
Dylan Gabriel's numbers and for everybody's picking apart Dylan Gabriel

(28:09):
and going ahead of him. And I know, by the way,
I don't love Dylan Gabriel's game, But the reality is
his numbers are everybody and a little well, you know what,
he's got a better arm that Shador Sanders does, So
you're going to offer that the little with this with
the arm. It's the same type of thing. It's a
football evaluation. And when you get to a certain point

(28:29):
of not being talented enough to be a first round pick,
talented enough to be a second round pick, you get
to the third round, you go back to what you said, LeVar,
do you want and you Jonas and do you want
to bring him into the building to be a backup
quarterback when he's that's the reality of you're bringing all
that other stuff into it.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
By the way, Jason White won a Heisman, didn't get drafted.

Speaker 6 (28:51):
Bro, you know, there's millions of them.

Speaker 4 (28:54):
Get give me the comp on like, you know who
had comparable numbers to Shador sad who won the same award,
the Johnny Uniteds Award, and went what like Gardner Minshew
had the same exact stat line and went when where

(29:15):
in the in the draft.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
Und six round. So I'm just saying there are comps.

Speaker 4 (29:22):
There are comps like it's not it's not actually like,
maybe they didn't rank Gardner Minshew as the third or
fourth best quarterback in or player prospect in the draft
and it didn't work.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
Out that way.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
But there are comps to what Shador Sanders accomplished and
and got literally even a worse draft stock, a draft
pick he went later than what Shador went. So it's
not beyond the realm of belief that even though he's
a Sanders that it he just slid in the draft

(29:56):
from what people thought that he was going to be
in the draft.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
I mean, that's.

Speaker 6 (30:01):
Here's all you need to know. Okay. If the father
was in the same exact draft in his prime, exactly
the same situation, where's the father go?

Speaker 3 (30:11):
Top five?

Speaker 4 (30:13):
Yes, I made the same point, Pete. And by the way,
for what is worth you know, the argument against that
is he's not a quarterback. It's different for quarterbacks. Because
at the end of the day, if you really wanted
to take this to another step, the idea that nobody
takes a look and stops and says, well, Dion is

(30:35):
just as involved with Travis Hunter as he is with
Shador and Shallow. He treats him the same exact way.
If you ask Dion Sanders, he will tell you that's
my son, Travis Hunter. So why are some people sitting
here falling out and crashing out over over looking at

(30:57):
it from the standpoint of Travis went number two and
your Jacksonville Jaguars trade at the getting. They didn't just
take him number two, they traded up to get them.
That's connected to Dion. So we're saying that Dion's the
problem and Deon's the reason, and they're humbling Dion and this,
that and the other. Oh, they're humbling Shadoor this. I

(31:19):
just find it to be a tad bit weird that
you have a direct comp Travis Hunter did everything Prime
wanted him to do. He could have went to Florida State.
He chose not to Cus Prime didn't get the job.
He went to Jackson State. He followed him there, followed
them to Colorado, ended up getting a Heisman. So to me,

(31:40):
you can't sit there and say this is all about
don because then you would have looked at that Travis
Hunter might have fell in the draft as well because
he's one of Dion's players. I mean, I don't see
how that isn't a like, isn't a storyline that isn't
even talked about.

Speaker 6 (31:58):
Yeah, I'm with you, So I'm with you. Look and
you know why, because he's the best player in the draft.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Well, there you go number two, Pete, I want to
ask you before I let you go outside of number two,
outside of Sdor Sanders. Best pick off the top of
your head, worst pick off the top of your head.
One that you look at and go, I don't get it,
and another one you go that was a home run.

Speaker 6 (32:20):
Well, I didn't love the I didn't love the dark pick.
I don't love. I wasn't a huge fan of Jackson Dart.
I understand why they did it, but I didn't love
that pick. That one, I think when I looked at it,
I think that was quarterback panic. That's what that was
for me. So that's one that stood out. I think
Jacksonville making the move to go get Travis Hunter.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
Was the best move the entire draft.

Speaker 6 (32:44):
You have to go do that. The guy is a star.
The guy is a star. He's the best player in
a draft. I know you're going to say your Penn
State linebacker is, but he's the best player in the draft.
Pen Tate linebacker had a couple of injury concerns too, though,
I mean, but yeah, yeah, well you still got the
foot he didn't surgically repaired.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
He doesn't need to get it surgically repaired, Pete Prisco,
at some point you might there's always a Mike, there's
a mite for every last one of them.

Speaker 6 (33:10):
I thought he should have got that gotta put the
gut it fixed before, and that he wouldn't have to
worry about the haters.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
By the way, Pete, by the way, I love I
love Car.

Speaker 6 (33:18):
I'm not a sit here in bast Car. I think
Carr is a great player, don't get me wrong, but
I think Travis Hunter is at Travis Hunter.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Is unreal, Pete, we did, uh, we were taking a
look at your your thoughts on the Bears, taking Colston
Lovelin over Tyler.

Speaker 4 (33:32):
I thought that was ridiculous. You rated him higher, like
you got something against Penn Staters.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
That's all. You're okay with them being the second best
in your book?

Speaker 4 (33:41):
Right?

Speaker 6 (33:41):
I saw another I saw another number eleven running around
over there at Penn State the other day.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
Did you really how about that?

Speaker 1 (33:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (33:47):
Hopefully, hopefully.

Speaker 6 (33:50):
No. He's a good looking he's a good looking kid.
He's only what is he a true freshman?

Speaker 3 (33:54):
He's seventeen. He's not even a true freshman. He's an
early how big?

Speaker 6 (33:59):
How big? LeVar Uh?

Speaker 3 (34:00):
He's six four to twenty right now to twenty one.

Speaker 6 (34:04):
Damn.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
Yeah, he's looking pretty good.

Speaker 6 (34:06):
He's gonna be he gonna be better than his father. Well,
you know, he gonna he's gonna be. He's gonna be
like you know, little little Pippin's good player, but he's
never gonna be as good as his father. This one's
gonna go soaring passes.

Speaker 4 (34:19):
I will see, We'll see he's pretty good though, you know,
we'll see.

Speaker 6 (34:24):
That's a good looking kid. I saw those are those highlights.
That's impressive things. Well, so, yeah, I didn't love dark
that one.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
You know, I love Hunters. Colston Loveland over Tyler Oh yeah,
that was good.

Speaker 6 (34:36):
Colston love because Colston Loveland's a better pass catch catcher
than Tyler Wayla Mar is probably the more complete tight end.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
He is more complete, a little bit more.

Speaker 6 (34:45):
But but I think Loveland's more what the what Ben
Johnson and the Bears needed, and he's going to be
Sam Laporte in their offense, and I think that's why
they decided to go in that direction.

Speaker 4 (34:54):
I don't have a problem with that. I don't I
don't have a problem with that. Now, Pete, I know
you gotta go.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
We gotta go.

Speaker 4 (35:00):
But the Atlanta Falcons, I thought they pulled off the
best first round by getting a kid that failed because
of off field issues by the way, but getting getting
Jaylen Walker and then getting James Pierce and the same
at the same time. I mean, they shored up their front.
I mean, how'd you feel about that one? Just super quick?

Speaker 6 (35:22):
You know? I loved it because look, if Pierce doesn't
have the off the field.

Speaker 4 (35:26):
Issues either top to top ten, yeah, Carter should be.

Speaker 6 (35:29):
It should have been a top ten pick. So you
fix your edge rushers in one draft. Now, you got
to say, if he stays on the field and stays
out of it, stays away from trouble and issues, you know,
because there's been there were a lot of guys that
I questioned about character about James Pierce. Let's be real,
he's the top ten talent without that. But if he
does and everybody says, well, they gave up a first
round pick. If that's kid is as good as I

(35:51):
think he can become on the football field, they stole
them and you get those two edge rushers and how
many how many years have the Falcons been chasing edge rushers?

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Yeah, you're trying to find it it's.

Speaker 6 (36:02):
A great it's they had a great draft and it's
a big f Peter, that's a big if. Yeah, you
gotta say true to the football field. Uh.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Pete Prisco, get him on ex at Prisco, CBS senior
NFL columnist, CBS Sports HQ analyst.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
Always appreciate it. Let's do it again next Tuesday.

Speaker 6 (36:19):
He's coming for you in LeVar. The Sun's gonna take them.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
We'll see, we'll see there he is other great. Pete
Prisco with us here on Fox Sports Radio. Coming up next,
we'll close up shop on this Tuesday with another edition
of Lee's Leftovers.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
Here on FSR.

Speaker 8 (36:36):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
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Speaker 1 (36:48):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here. We'll be back
on the show coming up tomorrow, six am Eastern time,
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(37:09):
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Speaker 3 (37:12):
And right now we close up with this.

Speaker 8 (37:16):
These might smell a little fun, that sounds incredible, but
they're still good.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
Time to find out what's laugh.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
It's Lee's Leftovers the lab.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
What do we got?

Speaker 5 (37:28):
Well after yesterday's Lee's Leftovers? Of course, we had talked
about what was the trifecta of events in La yesterday,
that being the Dodgers game versus Miami, something at the
Intuit Bowl, who cares about that? And Beyonce at Sofi Stadium.
Guess what ended up happening yesterday? Our one and only
Lorena was gifted tickets plural to Beyonce at Sofi tickets.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
I know, I really will laughing. Why does that happen
to be? Just say she went to the concert?

Speaker 4 (38:02):
Because the minute you say get the tickets, it now
goes into the conversation Up, was it a listener and
I gave you the ticket?

Speaker 6 (38:09):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (38:09):
Or no? No it was not he? Oh who gave
me the tickets? That we gave you the ticket?

Speaker 1 (38:13):
That whack job who sends you snacks from like Bangladesh
or whever.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
No one of my good friends. She works very serious.
So she got free change.

Speaker 4 (38:21):
Okay, good all right, well, thank goodness, finally one we finally.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
Okay, go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 5 (38:28):
Well, of course I get a text in the middle
of the day saying, guess what I'm doing. And it
took me a second, but she was like, we talked
about it earlier, and I was like, no, you're not.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
You're not going to Beyonce and you're not going without me.
And I do feel bad because I should have brought
Lee with me. Who did you take with you? I
took the girl who gave me the ticket. Oh, well,
to stay home. That makes sense. I didn't know who
else to take. I didn't think Lee would be available
because his ball and chain. Lee, I thought you didn't
have a ball in chain anymore. I got no ball

(38:59):
in Chaine, A free men. I heard he's I heard
he has no ball in check. You just wait forty
eight hours, I'm sure.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
By the way, can we point out uh racist Lee?
First second here you said whatever was going on into
a dome?

Speaker 3 (39:16):
That was rod? Yeah, very very name weird.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
We're lessening, We're less than a week away from Sinco
to Mayo, and he spits in the faces of our
friends listening here show I had in laws who went
to that event.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
Lee, less than a month away? Less than a week away.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Racist basket or yeah, less than a week dang, Lee
knows the.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
Speaking of which. It's been three months.

Speaker 5 (39:43):
You guys, ever crack your knuckles by the way you
get your knuckle cracker, cracker.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
I don't know what that means.

Speaker 5 (39:49):
It's been first time in three months have been able
to crack my thumb since I fell at New Orleans.

Speaker 4 (39:54):
Oh wow, that means finally cracked it for the first yesterday.
I was very happy. Good for you. By the way,
I'm sure you have other injuries that are still there
that if you have not even addressed yet.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
How many how many?

Speaker 1 (40:09):
How many toxins are in your body that takes you
three months to crack your knuckles one knuckle got geez

Speaker 3 (40:18):
Cheez, thank it, Lee,
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