April 30, 2025 • 40 mins
The Old P, Petros Papadakis talks about the circus that is the NFL Draft and who the Lakers will blame when they get eliminated. LaVar supports Abdul Carter asking Lawrence Taylor for permission to wear #56. Plus, a Gorilla vs 100 men on Lee’s Leftovers.
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Speaker 3 (01:02):
Hey, where them Old Bay though, I'm Old Bay Fish.
Oh those are gone gone?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yeah, the Old Bay Goldfish crackers. My son and I
ripped those. Those are gone.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
He is Petros Papavegas, the co host of the Petros
Mony show, which you can hear on the Blowtorch AM
five seventy l a sports a Fox college football analyst
and our good buddy on ex at the old p Petros.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Good morning, Good morning guys. Le's going there? Good morning, LeVar?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Hey, how you doing. I'm all right, I'm okay good So.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Good to know, Petros. I just wanted to first, you know,
send my condolences to you and yours. I know you
were pretty distraught that should or had to wait as
long as he did.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Tough for me. So it's really I gotta say, uh,
I had a conversation with somebody about this last night,
somebody who knows better than me, uh as far as
like how executives think and all of that. And I
know for a fact that this made the draft more
interesting for me. I'm not a fan of the NFL drafts.
(02:07):
I never have been. And I'll explain it, LeVar. It's
like we deal with all the douchary before and at
halftime and after a football game because there's a football
game to watch, right, Like I might even tolerate as
(02:28):
a viewer, you know, Ian Rapaport and whatever other douchebag
information guy going back and forth about who's right about
the information they have and all that different stuff, like
I will tolerate that, you know, Peter Schrager, I'll tolerate
all of that crap because you know that there's a
game coming. And that's the amazing thing about the NFL Draft.
(02:51):
It is just the self flating NFL information guyde douchierie
for literally four hours and there's no game, and the
fact that you know, six hundred thousand people will show
up for it or whatever it was throughout the weekend
and they'll get seven and a half million viewers combined
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for an event that has no actual payoff. That's pretty amazing. Oh,
deep down, ESPN, the NFL network, they're high fiving. No
matter what pundit you might feel like made a fool
of themselves or didn't. They're having a hell of a
(03:34):
time feeling great about the draft because everybody watched because
of one thing. Now, I would allege earlier before I
had this conversation that yeah, okay, NFL networks high fiving.
ESPN's high fiving, but deep down the NFL because all
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of their draft picks were overshadowed and many of their
pundits are embarrassed or are embarrassing. The NFL must be
pretty red in the face. They can't be happy about
the way this went down. And the guy I was
with last night who's an executive, said, are you kidding?
They don't care. They just want people to talk about them.
(04:17):
They love it. They're not embarrassed. They don't have some
kind of moral high ground that they're standing on and saying, oh,
we don't like this room for rom. No, this was
an embarrassment, but it was also a gigantic victory for
the NFL. These leagues are always trying to become the
biggest story of the week, especially if they're not playing,
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like that's a huge bonus. Off season, it's the biggest
story of the week. The NBA off season kind of
tried to create that in the summer. So that's kind
of the big picture of what I thought after the
weekend is this was a travesty. Is anybody embarrassed by it?
And the answer is no, nobody. Nobody is embarrassed about it.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
You don't feel like the eventual crash out that was
going to take place by Mel Kuiper, that took place
this draft weekend. You don't think he's embarrassed about that today?
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I go no. I mean, I don't know if he
had any shame, he would have tucked it in after
the Jimmy claws and stuff. You know, you know what
I mean. I mean, it's a whole different cottage industry,
and Mel Kuiper has made the draft what it is.
And again, you know, I'm a guy in his basement
screaming into a microphone. I mean, I understand the level
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of interest. I don't. Maybe I don't, but I look,
this moved the needle in a huge way, and the
NFL and everybody else involved is taking a victory lap.
I don't know what Kuiper's like. He could be looking
in the mirror saying, you know, I hate you. I
don't know, but but overall, it was, it was. It
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was an event that I watched, and you know, usually
I'm semi interested in the draft as far as oh
I know this player, Hey good for that guy, or
hey that's what a cool story, but nothing to where
I was like riveted and people were texting me, He's
not gonna go. He's not going you know, you know,
like he's not gonna go. We were all, you know,
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pretty pretty uh pretty glued to it, and and there's
no doubt about it. And you have to give the
NFL whatever perverse kind of credit you'd want to give him.
I mean, to me, if you're Jackson Dart or any
of these guys, and everybody's having a temper tantrum when
you get picked, anybody who got picked anywhere that they
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thought Shador Sanders was gonna get picked. The panel had
a temper tantrum on day two. Everybody seemed, even Joel,
who's a Colorado guy, like, everybody seemed to get reeled in,
except for your brother with the with the.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Hair helmet, Petros.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Would you see the numbers and you mentioned the interest,
it's there and the viewership numbers up over forty percent
on day two from the previous year, up over forty
percent on day three from the previous year.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I mean, they wish they could create this every year.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Oh yeah, And so I look at it and I go.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
But this was a natural occurrence. I mean, this was
a rebuke, a rebuke of the NFL's front offices against
the Shador Sanders and Dion Sanders and how they went
about this. I don't think he was a first round
pick ever, Like I really don't, but I don't think
he would have gone that deep had they not. Maybe,
(07:39):
and they've admitted it themselves, maybe they could have gone
about this in a different way. And I think that's
probably in hindsight, I think that that's what they would
end up doing.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Doesn't also speak though to there's like this is.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Why Colorado bringing in Dion Sanders like this, this was
part of it because we're talking about a fifth round
pick and his rookie jersey sale is third.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Amongst all draft picks. I mean, he's the only non
first round pick.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
And it just goes to show you, like, man, Colorado
was desperate to have anything and to see the noise
that comes along and the coverage that comes along with
Dion and Shador and man, we have brought up Travis Hunter,
who's the best player in the draft potentially. Like it
just tells me Colorado was right in the move they made.
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It may never result in a national title and Dion
could be the coach of the Browns in two years,
who the hell knows, But what they did was put
the program back on the map, and they did so
by way of Dion Sanders, who put his son and
his old brand on the map.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Again. Yeah, you can't argue with it. I mean you
can say that it's manufactured and the story is deeply
manufactured because it doesn't warrant. I mean, I was a
little offended just because everybody's like, well, Colorado football's not
done anything for twenty years. It's like, no, no, that's
not true. They had a coach, the guy from San
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Jose McIntyre or whatever. That guy had him in the
PAC twelfth championship game with Philip Lindsay and that big
quarterback I think his name was Montes or something. I mean,
not that it's very memorable to anybody else, but that
was a higher performing team, you know, in the last
twenty years, in the last ten years, than what Shadour
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and Travis Hunter and Dion did, just as far as
you know X's and Ozen on the field, that was
actually a better team.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Stephen Montes, Yes.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Stephen Montes, And that's okay, I mean, that's fine. This
is a manufactured story, But what is it manufactured? Revenue? Attention,
television ratings, you know, all of these different things, and
it's hard to argue with that now other than most
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of the points that everybody's already made. I think it
is interesting because this did prove one point the media
and whatever that is. You know, when whatever your interpretation is,
when you hear somebody say that word, the media couldn't
get this guy drafted. And and I think this was
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a little bit of a reprimand on the media because
the last time I saw the media get a guy
drafted out of place was Lonzo Ball, right, And you
had to be an idiot like Magic Johnson, the same
guy that traded away a Viza Boo Zubats. You have
to be somebody who was very naive to fall into
(10:38):
the media trap because he was local and all that.
To draft Lonzo Ball as opposed to Jason Tatum or
de Aaron Fox, you know, and I know about Mark
l Foltz and all that, but he was a consensus
number one. And gms don't get fired to if you
pick the guy that's a consensus number one, because you
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just figure, yeah, everybody else would have picked him. It's
not my fault. So that's the only other time I've
really seen like just a huge media swell to get
a guy drafted out of place, and this seemed like
a like a little bit of a reprimand on on
all the talk for months and months that the NFL
wasn't having it.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Speaking of reprimands, p I mean the kid they they
did the prank, he apologized.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
I didn't know how prom that.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I didn't know that that had been a thing.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Yeah, he got caught, but like I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
That that had happened last year and years before it
happened to another kid. Well, I had no idea.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
I mean that shouldn't something like the fact that it's
it got leaked by you know, uh an official will
say inside of the organization. Shouldn't there be some type
of consequence to it?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
I mean, I don't know what he wanted to do
to poor old Brick. He's already I mean, he's already embarrassed.
I mean, and you know, his kids embarrassed himself. And
the kid is apologized ecause he got caught. I mean,
should we have him stand somewhere like butts up? Shame?
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Oh yeah, shame? What butts up?
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Maybe seven seven canes? I don't, yeah, you know, shame,
you know, maybe change shame.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
I mean, isn't that happening? I mean, isn't he being
I mean, isn't it happening right now?
Speaker 4 (12:19):
If I'm the NFL, you don't want that to Like
your biggest storyline was Shador Sanders, and that became a
part of the storyline. When he got everybody went running
for the phone and it's it's time.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
I've been waiting for your call.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Well you're gonna keep waiting, like in the moment, it
shouldn't like it was kind of like maybe a tab it,
Like I don't want to admit it was funny.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
I thought the whole thing was racial, to be honest
with you.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
But that's just all I'm gonna say. And that's that's
a whole another deal. That's that's that's a whole nother deal.
But anyway, I mean, I just feel like there should
be some type of repercussion if the information that's a
private line and that information gets out where something like
that can happen from an organization.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
I just listen. I think it's important that at some point,
I know it didn't happen this time, but at some point,
I feel like we're going to get a black quarterback
drafted high.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
I agree, petros Oh, that's sarcasm. I agree. What are
you trying to say.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
I'm just saying I don't. I mean, I just look
when somebody goes like, you know, this is because the
kid wears chains and he raps, and I was like, dude,
if you took all the guys out that wear chains
and raps, you know, we don't have a league, you know,
I mean, we don't have anything to talk about. You know.
I mean every guy that I know that I played
football with that was of a certain background, most of
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them thought that they could do three things, rap, look cool,
and jewelry and played basketball. And the truth is none
of those things were true. They could just play football.
I mean, our best basketball players were usually the guys
who played coquarterback because they were tall and they actually
had played high school basketball. Now, it's an amazing story.
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The whole thing, LeVar is amazing, and there's so many
different avenues to take it. And I think that there's
a lot of social commentary that comes along with it.
That you know, if you feel a certain kind of
way about a certain kind of thing on one way
or the other, you can find something about this Shadeur's
story and make it a platform and attack others. I
(14:28):
think it happens all the time in sports these days,
which is really unfortunate. We sort of lost our anonymity
with the political world and people use these stories.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Look at what happened to Saquon, right, what's your take
on that? I saw?
Speaker 4 (14:41):
You saw like they're attacking Saquon. Oh wait, people are
attacking Saquon Like. I just don't understand why a man
can't live his life like you can have your own
political views and personal feelings, but why are you projecting
that on like we don't like like Petros, you don't
have have to live for somebody else, Like you don't
(15:02):
have to give validation from somebody else.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
If my daughter wants to go to the Trump golf
course where they stamp the Trump name on the burger
and she likes the way it looks because she's nine,
I'm gonna take her. You know, I don't care what
somebody on the Twitter might say. Uh no'm I think
he did a great job being a little bit more.
I guess just reasonable with his explanation as to what
(15:25):
he was doing.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
I like, if he's not there have a problem like Okay,
you're not inviting people like.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Be upset at that you're upset that he's there.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
No, I think you've come to a point where there's
a group of people who they're gonna think that you're
evil if you deal with uh, with the guy who
they elected president. And that's not I don't think that's
right either. It's obviously a hot button topic for a
lot of people because some people are just absolutely and totally,
(15:57):
just gutturally opposed to anything that that guy does, whether
it's good or bad. So that that's a tough story,
and I hate the fact that athletes get sucked into that.
But you know, there is a bigger There is a
bigger picture when it comes to the Shador thing, just
as far as him being not being drafted high or
anybody in a professional league, whatever that league is. And
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you understand better than anybody else talking the pain in
the ass factor on one side of the scale, and
then the other side is how good is this guy?
How much can he contribute? And once that pain in
the ass factor starts to outweigh that how good is
this guy?
Speaker 3 (16:41):
And they're not going to take you.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
People don't stick around very long, right, you know, I mean,
I think about Yasiel Puig, one of the biggest stories
that I've covered when since we've had the Dodgers, he
disappeared every day. What's ple gonna do? What's ple gonna do?
Speaker 5 (16:56):
What?
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Look at the face he made? You know, but he'd
show up late, and this and that and that was publicly. Privately,
you know, they couldn't get him to come home at night.
You know, they were struggling.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
It didn't Grankey like throw his stuff off a bus.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yeah, I mean they had a lot. Yeah, that wasn't
a book, and they struggled. You know, they had a
mentor living with them, all this stuff. But the second
that his performance dropped below all the stuff you have
to do to keep this guy around because he's a
pain in the ass, he was gone. Kaepernick, t Bow,
I mean, two different sides of the same coin. The
(17:32):
second your story becomes bigger than what it's worth for
the actual team, they get rid of you. You know,
whether it's right or wrong, they get rid of you.
Who else Johnny Manziel, you know, I mean it just
goes on and on. This is a professional league. So
that part of it that made a lot of sense
to me. One thing I thought that was funny was
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my radio partner was like, you know, what do they
got Louis Vaton trunks in the corner for what is that?
Why did they have those? Just you know? And I
was like, those are like fifty thousand dollars a piece,
and he's like, yeah, why do they have those? What
is this? And I was like, well, you know, it's
actually quite interesting. I mean, Louis Vuton. If you're gonna
have Louis Vauton stuff like, that's the most authentic thing
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you could have, because that's what Louis Vuton actually made.
Louis Vuitton was a poor carpenter type. He was an artisan.
He walked the seventy or whatever it is miles from
Leon to Paris, taking odd jobs on the way, and
he became a guy in Paris who made really bougie
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traveling trunks for rich people who travel on boats and
trains and stuff like that, where people would use a
big ass trunk and be gone there. Yeah, months and
months and months and those trunks. That's what Louis Vuton
made for like one hundred years. But more, you know,
they started making sunglasses and hats and purses and all
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the scarves and all the other stuff. So I thought
the Louis Vuton trunk choice was was a very classy choice,
you know in the h and then we found out
what was in it.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Straight cash, straight cash, homie.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
You know the words of the great Tony Bruno, that's beautiful,
Louis Vuitton knowledge man, beautiful man, beautiful.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
I will say this though, I don't know, and the
honest question, I don't know if the cash in the
trunks could buy the trunk. Yeah, those sixty thousand bucks really,
Oh they're beautiful. Yeah, you know, they're like, they're really like,
you know, it's like buying a piece of furniture. I
think people would say that. And shedors got two just
scattered in the corner filled with.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Cat Yeah, they was opening them bad boys up.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Yeah, it's not from Cleveland cash, but it's Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
It's cash.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Petros Uh. Before we let you go, you got to
call your shot here. When the Lakers get eliminated by
the Wolves.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
When what are you talking about there? Don't think that
the they'll have the refs help him out.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Well, I was gonna say when they do tonight, when
they do it could be tonight, It could be game six.
But when they do, first excuse you'll hear from the
Lakers about the loss will be.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
What, oh, we didn't have time to develop. They might
throw JJ Reddick under the bus because you know, there's
a reason nobody left their whole team out there for
the whole second half ever before ever. You know, it's
one thing to be innovative, it's another thing to be stupid,
like you're coaching a video game. You know, Reddick's interesting.
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He had he overcame a lot of the the negativity
and very honest negativity about him because he had no
coaching experience coming into this, and he overcame a lot
of that and drew a lot of praise from a
lot of people that were criticizing him. But the second
the playoffs has started, he's really shown his ass. I mean,
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they got they were getting beat up in that first game,
and they do those in game interviews you know now,
and he's like, listen, you know, we're just getting beat
This has nothing to do with schematics nothing. It's like
you said it like three times and it's like, okay, dude,
we get it. You don't want to act like you're
being out coached, whether it's true or not, it just
seems like he's he's got huge rabbit ears and I
(21:22):
just can't stand listening to him talk, and he's That's
probably where they'll blame it. They'll probably blame his lack
of playoff coaching experience. Or they'll say, well, this team
just wasn't very built very well for the playoffs, and
Nico's gonna have a little victory lap in.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Dallas, right of course, and he deserves it.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Every year, you know, the Clippers were looking good for
a second there. Yeah, and they're still alive. But I
guess they're in better shape than the Lakers, right, Like
I guess you could say that. And every year people
are like, this is it be? You know, come on,
And every year I won't get on the boat and
I stand in the breakwater and I watched the Clipper
(22:04):
ship explode in the harbor.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Yeah, yeah, it's too bad. It's really too bad.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
This year, it didn't even take Kawhi's like leg falling off.
It's just happening.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
He's been great, Kawhi, it has been great.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
It's just you know, you just can't win. James Harden
has vanished the last couple of games. But Petros, we
always appreciate it, MYX at the Old pe. He is
the great Petros Papadakis, the co host of the Petros
Money Show, which you can hear on at the Blowtorch,
a M five seventy l a Sports Fox college football
analyst and a man who brought the knowledge about Louis Vauton.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Here on the show. Yeah, appreciate it, Pee.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
I have stacks of Drachmas in my Louis Vauton. Hell, yeah,
I have a Louis Vuitton wallet. It's not filled with
very much money.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Well listen, maybe well that's a that's a holiday idea.
Maybe for a Christmas We'll we'll line you up with something. Yeah,
for all these appearances, thanks Petros.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
So there believe on compensated.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
The great Petros Papadagas with us here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here
on FSR.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Coming up next here though an idea to fix a
problem that the NFL has that's near and dear to
the heart of one member of this show.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
We'll get into that for you here on FSR.
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Speaker 6 (23:45):
Yeah yeah, weird ass. If you will bet bet bet
pop that go on and pop that ish.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
But that is.
Speaker 7 (24:01):
Huh get a huk we heard mean why laptop my
earge get a don'ut that money?
Speaker 1 (24:14):
It is two pros and a cup of Joe. Fox
Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Jonas not with the here. Probably
We've got a Lee's leftovers coming up in about fifteen
minutes from now, and uh cannot wait to see what
we've got in store for that if you were delivery
Wednesday here on the show. Uh so, whoa we've got
(24:36):
We've got another discussion to be had here. This one
involves something near and dear to the heart of one
LeVar Arrington. So we mentioned the rookie jersey sales that
were announced, So.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
There's one jersey that can't be sold yet.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Top ten rookies from the draft jersey sales go as follows.
Travis Hunter is one, cam Ward is two, followed by
shoot Or Sanders, Ashton, gent Teed McMillan, Jackson, Dart and
Abdul Carter sitting at seven. Now Matthew go, Tyler Warren,
(25:11):
and Colston Lovelin are also but what's his number? They
haven't assigned numbers to most of these from my understanding,
But that is where the discussion comes in, because you know,
there's been a lot of pushback about how dare abdul
Carter reach out to Lawrence Taylor to ask if he
can wear the number fifty six. Lawrence Taylor said, go
make your own number, you know famous, and and like,
(25:34):
I've seen people like Mike Francessa was upset that he
even reached out and asked. I think Shannon Sharp had
a comment about it, to which abdul Carter responded on
social media about and I've seen like And.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
His point was, well, what what's the harm in asking?
Speaker 5 (25:49):
Like?
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Right?
Speaker 3 (25:50):
What's the harm?
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Warren Moon came gave cam like so yes, big deal,
like and Lawrence Taylor said, no, what's the problem.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
I think it's okay for the player that had their
jersey retired to have an opinion one way or the other.
You could be offended by it and be like kid
beat it. You could be honored by it and still
tell him to beat it. You could be honored by
it and say you want it's perfectly fine if you
wear it. I think sometimes we get so far away
(26:24):
from reality. And that's been like my theme that like
for a little bit now, like as of late right now,
Like people don't live in reality, man, and it's so
easy to be mock outraged and upset, Like what the
f are you upset for about a young man wanting
to wear fifty six? And if you ask him why
(26:47):
he would want to wear fifty six is because he
wanted to put the weight and the pressure of performing, Like, oh.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
I wouldn't do that. You're talking about arguably the greatest
defensive player, maybe the greatest football player of all time.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
Okay, you do know that greatness is meant to be
matched or exceeded at some point. It's it happens, It happens.
And if he wanted to ask to wear the jersey
because of something he felt, and he wanted to honor
(27:21):
the number and honor the player who wore it and
wanted to try to carve out his own he did
it in college. I could speak to it from experience.
I've never wanted my jersey retired ever, we're to the
point now where people think people wear eleven because of
Michael Parsons, and I don't care.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
You know, what I care about is.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
That the number continues to build relevance and continues to
build up, you know, notoriety and popularity and people honor.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
It's a part of what we do at in State.
It's a beautiful thing. They retired Lawrence Taylor's number. It's retired, Like.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
Okay, hey, but is there the possibility that Abduel Carter
could actually, after doing what he did at Penn State,
could revive and bring an awareness to fifty six for
the New York Giants.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
He's that good. He's that good.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
So whether he lives up to the potential or not,
his potential in his ceiling is to be that he's
that good.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
So why get outraged about it? What?
Speaker 2 (28:29):
What?
Speaker 3 (28:30):
What are your like?
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Why? Oh? I would like? Why?
Speaker 4 (28:34):
He's a man just like you, Shannon Sharp. He's a
man just like you, Rob Parker. He's a man just
like you. Anybody else out here that has had anything
to say that that could be disparaging or derogatory, Like
cats ain't wired all like that to be like, oh
my gosh, let me kiss the ring.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
No no, no, no, no no no this.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
That Like, Bro, what if Rob Parker said, I don't
know that I was telling something and they said him
and Calvin was like talking on it, and maybe it
was Calvin that said it, but I think it was
Rob that I heard that was just saying like, I
wouldn't even I wouldn't even ask for that jerky like
I wouldn't even.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
That's that's you know, that's probably arguable good. Like I
so what I listened to Kelvin. I've never listened to
Rob's stuffs.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
I have no idea. I didn't even know stupid, I didn't.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
I feel like I feel like somebody who steps into
the fold and has that type of belief in themselves.
He's trying to honor you, bro, like you're in the
you're in the raptors, Like okay, people like we're in
twenty twenty five. People still talk about Lawrence Taylor. People
still remember Lawrence Taylor. You see the number fifty six,
people immediately think of Lawrence Taylor. It's probably ingrained in
(29:44):
most people's minds, but there's a younger generation of people
out here that aren't in it like that It's like
the the further you get away from the past, people forget.
You can ask somebody about the number fifty in this
current generation of people have no idea who Lawrence Taylor is.
(30:06):
People my age and a little older, maybe a few
people a little younger they know or may know. But
you get into this like next generation, like the generation
of like the twenty twenty five ors twenty six is
maybe even twenty sevens. They don't know nobody. They don't
(30:30):
know them. So what is it like to me? What
is it that big of a deal? Again, it's Lawrence
Taylor's choice if he wants him to, if he wants
to release it to be worn again or not done.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
And by the way, it's not like he pursued it
and didn't ask. He asked out of respect. Hey, maybe
he'll shoot it down. Maybe he won't.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
And he shot it down. That's fine, No big deal.
Isn't eleven retired for New York too? Yeah? I think
the eleven is. So I got an idea, God, what
is it?
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Because you know what, I wore fifty six in the league,
and I know you're gonna throw out the other number.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
I know you're gonna do that. That's right I wore.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
But people have to understand. People are like, oh, LaVar's
wearing fifty six. He's trying to be like Lawrence Taylor.
He's trying to be like Lawrence Ston. No, I wasn't.
I didn't take fifty six because of Lawrence Taylor. Like
you see people wear twenty three. You know he took
fifty or twenty three because of Michael Jordan. I didn't
take fifty six to be like Lawrence Taylor. I love
Lawrence Taylor's game. I was getting compared to Lawrence Taylor.
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But I did not take fifty six to be Lawrence Taylor.
I took fifty six because I couldn't wear eleven. If
I could have wore eleven, I would have wore eleven.
And Pep were like, oh, you were in fifty six,
you were in fifty six, you were in I wore
fifty six because you were not allowed to wear the
number eleven. If you put a plus sign in between
the five and the six, it equals what. That's why
(31:53):
I wore fifty six. Just so people are clear and
so for what is worth Like if that man wants
to try to wear your jersey and you don't want
him to wear it, then don't let him wear it,
But don't act as though like it's like beyond reproach
or anything to actually make the request as somebody who's
accomplished what Abdul was accomplished.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Like that's real, that's weird. Well, I am allowed to ask.
I mean, I've heard different about why you chose fifty one.
I wore fifty six because they equaled eleven. I heard
that you.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
I heard that you reached out to Patrick Ramsey about
getting number eleven and he basically told.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
You to go.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
So I was there before Patrick rams Listen, I'm just
reporting what I heard. Now, there's a solution all this.
If if Abdul Carter wants to continue the tradition of
honoring the great LeVar Arrington, wear fifty five.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Yeah, but it's not about come on, it's what you
wore in New York.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
It is what I wore in New York, and it
was mister nig I named it mister Nichols. I labeled
it mister Nigga. I got a tattoo called mister Nichols.
It's Abdul Carter did not honor me when he wore
eleven at Penn State. He honored a legacy, and that's
what I'm saying. So if he were to wear fifty six,
(33:09):
now you're honoring a legacy that was created by Lawrence Taylor, which,
by the way, there's a lot of wrong along the
way of the legacy that Lawrence Taylor built.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
You might get a guy.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
You might get a young man that actually right some
of the wrongs that were connected to some of the
things that may be connected to the number. Because everybody
ain't a fan. Sometimes people got to understand. Now everybody
isn't going to be a fan. You're gonna have different
sides of the coin. There's some people that look at
him and they're repulsed by Lawrence Taylor. Repulsed. And you
(33:46):
know what, you got a young man who has a
great background, comes from.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
From a two.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Parent family, has represented himself the right way, and wants
to honor the legacy of what you did in fifty
six at the at the franchise you were drafted to.
You have the right to decide I want him to wear.
I'm certainly okay with him wearing my number. As you mentioned,
(34:12):
warm Moon was on that side of it. Lawrence Taylor says,
make your own number famous, kick rock skid. He's on
that side of it, It's fine, there's nothing wrong with that.
What I believe to be something wrong with is all
these other people chiming in on it, acting as though
like like he shouldn't be thinking highly of himself, he
(34:35):
shouldn't want to aim for the stars, and he shouldn't
want to try to be as much as he can
be or be confident in himself and what he wants
to do and what he wants to accomplish. How many
people told you about your dream and what you want
to do and how you're going to do it.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Okay, I'm just saying that's what you got.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Guys like Ron Parker wrong, airing him out whatever his
name is, airing out stupid. I'm just sick of it, man,
And why they got all these people coming on their
show trying.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
To air me out. I have to call in, I
have to drop a diam on now. I think it's racist,
to be honest with you. I'm sick of it, and
we can we cannot tolerate this anymore. Love, Kelvin, Love,
Robb g Alex, everybody on that show. I don't know
what's that I don't know this bit that you're doing,
but just let's take a break for it. We we
(35:22):
lose the segment because I don't know what this bit is.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
You got it. It's no bit, it's a bit, it's
no bit. I'm standing up for you. It's a bit.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
I'm standing up for you, and I can hear the
sarcasm and your voice.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Weird man. Let's take it. Let's take it to break. Well,
let's get out of here.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
On behalf of Two Pros and a Cup of Joe
here on Fox Sports Radio. We will not stand for
any of the disrespect on other shows here.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
On this one.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
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Speaker 3 (36:06):
The stiff arm gets me every time. Yeah, it's so unnecessary.
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Speaker 3 (36:40):
Right now, it's time for this.
Speaker 5 (36:43):
These might smell.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
A little fun cake sounds incredible, but they're still good.
Time to find out what's left. It's Lee's leftovers.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
All right to laugh? What do we got? Will Fellas?
Speaker 8 (36:55):
You know, I had to bring it to Lee's Leftovers.
It's gone viral. Everyone's talking about it on the social media.
Who would win in a fight a gorilla versus one
hundred unarmed men?
Speaker 3 (37:08):
It's not even a why is this he? In a
convers I'd be a blood bath. Yeah, the gorilla would
annihilate them.
Speaker 6 (37:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
I just wonder if one of them, some way, somehow
we're able to like just say, kick them in the nuts.
I wonder what that have an impact for the rest
of the guys that which I'm clear that the dude
that was able to execute it would have probably been
been annihilated at the point time that had his leg
(37:36):
ripped off. But I'm just wondering what that have hurt
him enough? Where the rest of them, because I seem
to think the only way you could possibly have a
chance as one hundred is you got to sacrifice like
the first fifty first fifty lives to be able to
like try to fatigue the gorilla.
Speaker 8 (37:58):
The fatigue would have to be the fact, because yeah,
once you take it, once he takes out fifty the
other fifty, you're all scattered and scared to death.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
You can't choke him out. You're not going to choke
their nextra too. Things.
Speaker 8 (38:10):
It would have to be coordinated right at the beginning
to just dog pile right off the bat's work.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
It's not enough, there's not it's not gonna work.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
And whatever grip you had on him, even if you're
like a black belt in jiu jitsu, he could break
the grip like with one hand, Like it's I.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
Will say that would be interesting, Like you get the
whole Gracie family, like all of the gracies, like not
the biggest strongest, like you send it in the biggest
strongest dudes, like like four the mountain. Do you send that?
Do you send them in? Like a hundred of them?
Speaker 3 (38:43):
He would destroy the mountain and legacy, but.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
One hundred of them because them cats can lift a
ton of weight.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
I mean, and them steroids, you know, they get you
super Yet if we're even in you know, the war
here than steroids, maybe uh, maybe there's you know, hg
h it.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Up and then just throw them out there and see
what you got. Possibly maybe a chance. Has anybody ever
tried to kick a gorilla in the nuts.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
You've got to be one dumb lover to do that, Like, like,
how do you live to tell that story?
Speaker 3 (39:21):
Hey, I kicked the I kicked the ape in the fall?
Like what why? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (39:30):
First of all, I think just the presence of a
silver back and and there being no barriers in between
you is enough.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
He's already beat.
Speaker 4 (39:42):
At least it's over. He's already beat the vast majority.
If you're not dumb enough, I mean, if you're not
smart enough to be scared, then then God said has
served its purpose.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
So people are clear.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
The the guardrails at a zoo are not there to
protect them. It's there to touch you. Okay, like you're
the one at risk seez
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Speaker 3 (01:02):
Hey, where them Old Bay though, I'm Old Bay Fish.
Oh those are gone gone?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yeah, the Old Bay Goldfish crackers. My son and I
ripped those. Those are gone.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
He is Petros Papavegas, the co host of the Petros
Mony show, which you can hear on the Blowtorch AM
five seventy l a sports a Fox college football analyst
and our good buddy on ex at the old p Petros.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Good morning, Good morning guys. Le's going there? Good morning, LeVar?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Hey, how you doing. I'm all right, I'm okay good So.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Good to know, Petros. I just wanted to first, you know,
send my condolences to you and yours. I know you
were pretty distraught that should or had to wait as
long as he did.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Tough for me. So it's really I gotta say, uh,
I had a conversation with somebody about this last night,
somebody who knows better than me, uh as far as
like how executives think and all of that. And I
know for a fact that this made the draft more
interesting for me. I'm not a fan of the NFL drafts.
(02:07):
I never have been. And I'll explain it, LeVar. It's
like we deal with all the douchary before and at
halftime and after a football game because there's a football
game to watch, right, Like I might even tolerate as
(02:28):
a viewer, you know, Ian Rapaport and whatever other douchebag
information guy going back and forth about who's right about
the information they have and all that different stuff, like
I will tolerate that, you know, Peter Schrager, I'll tolerate
all of that crap because you know that there's a
game coming. And that's the amazing thing about the NFL Draft.
(02:51):
It is just the self flating NFL information guyde douchierie
for literally four hours and there's no game, and the
fact that you know, six hundred thousand people will show
up for it or whatever it was throughout the weekend
and they'll get seven and a half million viewers combined
(03:14):
for an event that has no actual payoff. That's pretty amazing. Oh,
deep down, ESPN, the NFL network, they're high fiving. No
matter what pundit you might feel like made a fool
of themselves or didn't. They're having a hell of a
(03:34):
time feeling great about the draft because everybody watched because
of one thing. Now, I would allege earlier before I
had this conversation that yeah, okay, NFL networks high fiving.
ESPN's high fiving, but deep down the NFL because all
(03:55):
of their draft picks were overshadowed and many of their
pundits are embarrassed or are embarrassing. The NFL must be
pretty red in the face. They can't be happy about
the way this went down. And the guy I was
with last night who's an executive, said, are you kidding?
They don't care. They just want people to talk about them.
(04:17):
They love it. They're not embarrassed. They don't have some
kind of moral high ground that they're standing on and saying, oh,
we don't like this room for rom. No, this was
an embarrassment, but it was also a gigantic victory for
the NFL. These leagues are always trying to become the
biggest story of the week, especially if they're not playing,
(04:41):
like that's a huge bonus. Off season, it's the biggest
story of the week. The NBA off season kind of
tried to create that in the summer. So that's kind
of the big picture of what I thought after the
weekend is this was a travesty. Is anybody embarrassed by it?
And the answer is no, nobody. Nobody is embarrassed about it.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
You don't feel like the eventual crash out that was
going to take place by Mel Kuiper, that took place
this draft weekend. You don't think he's embarrassed about that today?
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I go no. I mean, I don't know if he
had any shame, he would have tucked it in after
the Jimmy claws and stuff. You know, you know what
I mean. I mean, it's a whole different cottage industry,
and Mel Kuiper has made the draft what it is.
And again, you know, I'm a guy in his basement
screaming into a microphone. I mean, I understand the level
(05:36):
of interest. I don't. Maybe I don't, but I look,
this moved the needle in a huge way, and the
NFL and everybody else involved is taking a victory lap.
I don't know what Kuiper's like. He could be looking
in the mirror saying, you know, I hate you. I
don't know, but but overall, it was, it was. It
(06:01):
was an event that I watched, and you know, usually
I'm semi interested in the draft as far as oh
I know this player, Hey good for that guy, or
hey that's what a cool story, but nothing to where
I was like riveted and people were texting me, He's
not gonna go. He's not going you know, you know,
like he's not gonna go. We were all, you know,
(06:22):
pretty pretty uh pretty glued to it, and and there's
no doubt about it. And you have to give the
NFL whatever perverse kind of credit you'd want to give him.
I mean, to me, if you're Jackson Dart or any
of these guys, and everybody's having a temper tantrum when
you get picked, anybody who got picked anywhere that they
(06:42):
thought Shador Sanders was gonna get picked. The panel had
a temper tantrum on day two. Everybody seemed, even Joel,
who's a Colorado guy, like, everybody seemed to get reeled in,
except for your brother with the with the.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Hair helmet, Petros.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Would you see the numbers and you mentioned the interest,
it's there and the viewership numbers up over forty percent
on day two from the previous year, up over forty
percent on day three from the previous year.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I mean, they wish they could create this every year.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Oh yeah, And so I look at it and I go.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
But this was a natural occurrence. I mean, this was
a rebuke, a rebuke of the NFL's front offices against
the Shador Sanders and Dion Sanders and how they went
about this. I don't think he was a first round
pick ever, Like I really don't, but I don't think
he would have gone that deep had they not. Maybe,
(07:39):
and they've admitted it themselves, maybe they could have gone
about this in a different way. And I think that's
probably in hindsight, I think that that's what they would
end up doing.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Doesn't also speak though to there's like this is.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Why Colorado bringing in Dion Sanders like this, this was
part of it because we're talking about a fifth round
pick and his rookie jersey sale is third.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Amongst all draft picks. I mean, he's the only non
first round pick.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
And it just goes to show you, like, man, Colorado
was desperate to have anything and to see the noise
that comes along and the coverage that comes along with
Dion and Shador and man, we have brought up Travis Hunter,
who's the best player in the draft potentially. Like it
just tells me Colorado was right in the move they made.
(08:28):
It may never result in a national title and Dion
could be the coach of the Browns in two years,
who the hell knows, But what they did was put
the program back on the map, and they did so
by way of Dion Sanders, who put his son and
his old brand on the map.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Again. Yeah, you can't argue with it. I mean you
can say that it's manufactured and the story is deeply
manufactured because it doesn't warrant. I mean, I was a
little offended just because everybody's like, well, Colorado football's not
done anything for twenty years. It's like, no, no, that's
not true. They had a coach, the guy from San
(09:03):
Jose McIntyre or whatever. That guy had him in the
PAC twelfth championship game with Philip Lindsay and that big
quarterback I think his name was Montes or something. I mean,
not that it's very memorable to anybody else, but that
was a higher performing team, you know, in the last
twenty years, in the last ten years, than what Shadour
(09:25):
and Travis Hunter and Dion did, just as far as
you know X's and Ozen on the field, that was
actually a better team.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Stephen Montes, Yes.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Stephen Montes, And that's okay, I mean, that's fine. This
is a manufactured story, But what is it manufactured? Revenue? Attention,
television ratings, you know, all of these different things, and
it's hard to argue with that now other than most
(09:54):
of the points that everybody's already made. I think it
is interesting because this did prove one point the media
and whatever that is. You know, when whatever your interpretation is,
when you hear somebody say that word, the media couldn't
get this guy drafted. And and I think this was
(10:15):
a little bit of a reprimand on the media because
the last time I saw the media get a guy
drafted out of place was Lonzo Ball, right, And you
had to be an idiot like Magic Johnson, the same
guy that traded away a Viza Boo Zubats. You have
to be somebody who was very naive to fall into
(10:38):
the media trap because he was local and all that.
To draft Lonzo Ball as opposed to Jason Tatum or
de Aaron Fox, you know, and I know about Mark
l Foltz and all that, but he was a consensus
number one. And gms don't get fired to if you
pick the guy that's a consensus number one, because you
(10:59):
just figure, yeah, everybody else would have picked him. It's
not my fault. So that's the only other time I've
really seen like just a huge media swell to get
a guy drafted out of place, and this seemed like
a like a little bit of a reprimand on on
all the talk for months and months that the NFL
wasn't having it.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Speaking of reprimands, p I mean the kid they they
did the prank, he apologized.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
I didn't know how prom that.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I didn't know that that had been a thing.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Yeah, he got caught, but like I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
That that had happened last year and years before it
happened to another kid. Well, I had no idea.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
I mean that shouldn't something like the fact that it's
it got leaked by you know, uh an official will
say inside of the organization. Shouldn't there be some type
of consequence to it?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
I mean, I don't know what he wanted to do
to poor old Brick. He's already I mean, he's already embarrassed.
I mean, and you know, his kids embarrassed himself. And
the kid is apologized ecause he got caught. I mean,
should we have him stand somewhere like butts up? Shame?
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Oh yeah, shame? What butts up?
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Maybe seven seven canes? I don't, yeah, you know, shame,
you know, maybe change shame.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
I mean, isn't that happening? I mean, isn't he being
I mean, isn't it happening right now?
Speaker 4 (12:19):
If I'm the NFL, you don't want that to Like
your biggest storyline was Shador Sanders, and that became a
part of the storyline. When he got everybody went running
for the phone and it's it's time.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
I've been waiting for your call.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Well you're gonna keep waiting, like in the moment, it
shouldn't like it was kind of like maybe a tab it,
Like I don't want to admit it was funny.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
I thought the whole thing was racial, to be honest
with you.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
But that's just all I'm gonna say. And that's that's
a whole another deal. That's that's that's a whole nother deal.
But anyway, I mean, I just feel like there should
be some type of repercussion if the information that's a
private line and that information gets out where something like
that can happen from an organization.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
I just listen. I think it's important that at some point,
I know it didn't happen this time, but at some point,
I feel like we're going to get a black quarterback
drafted high.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
I agree, petros Oh, that's sarcasm. I agree. What are
you trying to say.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
I'm just saying I don't. I mean, I just look
when somebody goes like, you know, this is because the
kid wears chains and he raps, and I was like, dude,
if you took all the guys out that wear chains
and raps, you know, we don't have a league, you know,
I mean, we don't have anything to talk about. You know.
I mean every guy that I know that I played
football with that was of a certain background, most of
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them thought that they could do three things, rap, look cool,
and jewelry and played basketball. And the truth is none
of those things were true. They could just play football.
I mean, our best basketball players were usually the guys
who played coquarterback because they were tall and they actually
had played high school basketball. Now, it's an amazing story.
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The whole thing, LeVar is amazing, and there's so many
different avenues to take it. And I think that there's
a lot of social commentary that comes along with it.
That you know, if you feel a certain kind of
way about a certain kind of thing on one way
or the other, you can find something about this Shadeur's
story and make it a platform and attack others. I
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think it happens all the time in sports these days,
which is really unfortunate. We sort of lost our anonymity
with the political world and people use these stories.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Look at what happened to Saquon, right, what's your take
on that? I saw?
Speaker 4 (14:41):
You saw like they're attacking Saquon. Oh wait, people are
attacking Saquon Like. I just don't understand why a man
can't live his life like you can have your own
political views and personal feelings, but why are you projecting
that on like we don't like like Petros, you don't
have have to live for somebody else, Like you don't
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have to give validation from somebody else.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
If my daughter wants to go to the Trump golf
course where they stamp the Trump name on the burger
and she likes the way it looks because she's nine,
I'm gonna take her. You know, I don't care what
somebody on the Twitter might say. Uh no'm I think
he did a great job being a little bit more.
I guess just reasonable with his explanation as to what
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he was doing.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
I like, if he's not there have a problem like Okay,
you're not inviting people like.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Be upset at that you're upset that he's there.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
No, I think you've come to a point where there's
a group of people who they're gonna think that you're
evil if you deal with uh, with the guy who
they elected president. And that's not I don't think that's
right either. It's obviously a hot button topic for a
lot of people because some people are just absolutely and totally,
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just gutturally opposed to anything that that guy does, whether
it's good or bad. So that that's a tough story,
and I hate the fact that athletes get sucked into that.
But you know, there is a bigger There is a
bigger picture when it comes to the Shador thing, just
as far as him being not being drafted high or
anybody in a professional league, whatever that league is. And
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you understand better than anybody else talking the pain in
the ass factor on one side of the scale, and
then the other side is how good is this guy?
How much can he contribute? And once that pain in
the ass factor starts to outweigh that how good is
this guy?
Speaker 3 (16:41):
And they're not going to take you.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
People don't stick around very long, right, you know, I mean,
I think about Yasiel Puig, one of the biggest stories
that I've covered when since we've had the Dodgers, he
disappeared every day. What's ple gonna do? What's ple gonna do?
Speaker 5 (16:56):
What?
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Look at the face he made? You know, but he'd
show up late, and this and that and that was publicly. Privately,
you know, they couldn't get him to come home at night.
You know, they were struggling.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
It didn't Grankey like throw his stuff off a bus.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yeah, I mean they had a lot. Yeah, that wasn't
a book, and they struggled. You know, they had a
mentor living with them, all this stuff. But the second
that his performance dropped below all the stuff you have
to do to keep this guy around because he's a
pain in the ass, he was gone. Kaepernick, t Bow,
I mean, two different sides of the same coin. The
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second your story becomes bigger than what it's worth for
the actual team, they get rid of you. You know,
whether it's right or wrong, they get rid of you.
Who else Johnny Manziel, you know, I mean it just
goes on and on. This is a professional league. So
that part of it that made a lot of sense
to me. One thing I thought that was funny was
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my radio partner was like, you know, what do they
got Louis Vaton trunks in the corner for what is that?
Why did they have those? Just you know? And I
was like, those are like fifty thousand dollars a piece,
and he's like, yeah, why do they have those? What
is this? And I was like, well, you know, it's
actually quite interesting. I mean, Louis Vuton. If you're gonna
have Louis Vauton stuff like, that's the most authentic thing
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you could have, because that's what Louis Vuton actually made.
Louis Vuitton was a poor carpenter type. He was an artisan.
He walked the seventy or whatever it is miles from
Leon to Paris, taking odd jobs on the way, and
he became a guy in Paris who made really bougie
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traveling trunks for rich people who travel on boats and
trains and stuff like that, where people would use a
big ass trunk and be gone there. Yeah, months and
months and months and those trunks. That's what Louis Vuton
made for like one hundred years. But more, you know,
they started making sunglasses and hats and purses and all
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the scarves and all the other stuff. So I thought
the Louis Vuton trunk choice was was a very classy choice,
you know in the h and then we found out
what was in it.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Straight cash, straight cash, homie.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
You know the words of the great Tony Bruno, that's beautiful,
Louis Vuitton knowledge man, beautiful man, beautiful.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
I will say this though, I don't know, and the
honest question, I don't know if the cash in the
trunks could buy the trunk. Yeah, those sixty thousand bucks really,
Oh they're beautiful. Yeah, you know, they're like, they're really like,
you know, it's like buying a piece of furniture. I
think people would say that. And shedors got two just
scattered in the corner filled with.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Cat Yeah, they was opening them bad boys up.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Yeah, it's not from Cleveland cash, but it's Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
It's cash.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Petros Uh. Before we let you go, you got to
call your shot here. When the Lakers get eliminated by
the Wolves.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
When what are you talking about there? Don't think that
the they'll have the refs help him out.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Well, I was gonna say when they do tonight, when
they do it could be tonight, It could be game six.
But when they do, first excuse you'll hear from the
Lakers about the loss will be.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
What, oh, we didn't have time to develop. They might
throw JJ Reddick under the bus because you know, there's
a reason nobody left their whole team out there for
the whole second half ever before ever. You know, it's
one thing to be innovative, it's another thing to be stupid,
like you're coaching a video game. You know, Reddick's interesting.
(20:38):
He had he overcame a lot of the the negativity
and very honest negativity about him because he had no
coaching experience coming into this, and he overcame a lot
of that and drew a lot of praise from a
lot of people that were criticizing him. But the second
the playoffs has started, he's really shown his ass. I mean,
(20:58):
they got they were getting beat up in that first game,
and they do those in game interviews you know now,
and he's like, listen, you know, we're just getting beat
This has nothing to do with schematics nothing. It's like
you said it like three times and it's like, okay, dude,
we get it. You don't want to act like you're
being out coached, whether it's true or not, it just
seems like he's he's got huge rabbit ears and I
(21:22):
just can't stand listening to him talk, and he's That's
probably where they'll blame it. They'll probably blame his lack
of playoff coaching experience. Or they'll say, well, this team
just wasn't very built very well for the playoffs, and
Nico's gonna have a little victory lap in.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Dallas, right of course, and he deserves it.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Every year, you know, the Clippers were looking good for
a second there. Yeah, and they're still alive. But I
guess they're in better shape than the Lakers, right, Like
I guess you could say that. And every year people
are like, this is it be? You know, come on,
And every year I won't get on the boat and
I stand in the breakwater and I watched the Clipper
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ship explode in the harbor.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Yeah, yeah, it's too bad. It's really too bad.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
This year, it didn't even take Kawhi's like leg falling off.
It's just happening.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
He's been great, Kawhi, it has been great.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
It's just you know, you just can't win. James Harden
has vanished the last couple of games. But Petros, we
always appreciate it, MYX at the Old pe. He is
the great Petros Papadakis, the co host of the Petros
Money Show, which you can hear on at the Blowtorch,
a M five seventy l a Sports Fox college football
analyst and a man who brought the knowledge about Louis Vauton.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Here on the show. Yeah, appreciate it, Pee.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
I have stacks of Drachmas in my Louis Vauton. Hell, yeah,
I have a Louis Vuitton wallet. It's not filled with
very much money.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Well listen, maybe well that's a that's a holiday idea.
Maybe for a Christmas We'll we'll line you up with something. Yeah,
for all these appearances, thanks Petros.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
So there believe on compensated.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
The great Petros Papadagas with us here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here
on FSR.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Coming up next here though an idea to fix a
problem that the NFL has that's near and dear to
the heart of one member of this show.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
We'll get into that for you here on FSR.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
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a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
Yeah yeah, weird ass. If you will bet bet bet
pop that go on and pop that ish.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
But that is.
Speaker 7 (24:01):
Huh get a huk we heard mean why laptop my
earge get a don'ut that money?
Speaker 1 (24:14):
It is two pros and a cup of Joe. Fox
Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Jonas not with the here. Probably
We've got a Lee's leftovers coming up in about fifteen
minutes from now, and uh cannot wait to see what
we've got in store for that if you were delivery
Wednesday here on the show. Uh so, whoa we've got
(24:36):
We've got another discussion to be had here. This one
involves something near and dear to the heart of one
LeVar Arrington. So we mentioned the rookie jersey sales that
were announced, So.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
There's one jersey that can't be sold yet.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Top ten rookies from the draft jersey sales go as follows.
Travis Hunter is one, cam Ward is two, followed by
shoot Or Sanders, Ashton, gent Teed McMillan, Jackson, Dart and
Abdul Carter sitting at seven. Now Matthew go, Tyler Warren,
(25:11):
and Colston Lovelin are also but what's his number? They
haven't assigned numbers to most of these from my understanding,
But that is where the discussion comes in, because you know,
there's been a lot of pushback about how dare abdul
Carter reach out to Lawrence Taylor to ask if he
can wear the number fifty six. Lawrence Taylor said, go
make your own number, you know famous, and and like,
(25:34):
I've seen people like Mike Francessa was upset that he
even reached out and asked. I think Shannon Sharp had
a comment about it, to which abdul Carter responded on
social media about and I've seen like And.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
His point was, well, what what's the harm in asking?
Speaker 5 (25:49):
Like?
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Right?
Speaker 3 (25:50):
What's the harm?
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Warren Moon came gave cam like so yes, big deal,
like and Lawrence Taylor said, no, what's the problem.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
I think it's okay for the player that had their
jersey retired to have an opinion one way or the other.
You could be offended by it and be like kid
beat it. You could be honored by it and still
tell him to beat it. You could be honored by
it and say you want it's perfectly fine if you
wear it. I think sometimes we get so far away
(26:24):
from reality. And that's been like my theme that like
for a little bit now, like as of late right now,
Like people don't live in reality, man, and it's so
easy to be mock outraged and upset, Like what the
f are you upset for about a young man wanting
to wear fifty six? And if you ask him why
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he would want to wear fifty six is because he
wanted to put the weight and the pressure of performing, Like, oh.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
I wouldn't do that. You're talking about arguably the greatest
defensive player, maybe the greatest football player of all time.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
Okay, you do know that greatness is meant to be
matched or exceeded at some point. It's it happens, It happens.
And if he wanted to ask to wear the jersey
because of something he felt, and he wanted to honor
(27:21):
the number and honor the player who wore it and
wanted to try to carve out his own he did
it in college. I could speak to it from experience.
I've never wanted my jersey retired ever, we're to the
point now where people think people wear eleven because of
Michael Parsons, and I don't care.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
You know, what I care about is.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
That the number continues to build relevance and continues to
build up, you know, notoriety and popularity and people honor.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
It's a part of what we do at in State.
It's a beautiful thing. They retired Lawrence Taylor's number. It's retired, Like.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
Okay, hey, but is there the possibility that Abduel Carter
could actually, after doing what he did at Penn State,
could revive and bring an awareness to fifty six for
the New York Giants.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
He's that good. He's that good.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
So whether he lives up to the potential or not,
his potential in his ceiling is to be that he's
that good.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
So why get outraged about it? What?
Speaker 2 (28:29):
What?
Speaker 3 (28:30):
What are your like?
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Why? Oh? I would like? Why?
Speaker 4 (28:34):
He's a man just like you, Shannon Sharp. He's a
man just like you, Rob Parker. He's a man just
like you. Anybody else out here that has had anything
to say that that could be disparaging or derogatory, Like
cats ain't wired all like that to be like, oh
my gosh, let me kiss the ring.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
No no, no, no, no no no this.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
That Like, Bro, what if Rob Parker said, I don't
know that I was telling something and they said him
and Calvin was like talking on it, and maybe it
was Calvin that said it, but I think it was
Rob that I heard that was just saying like, I
wouldn't even I wouldn't even ask for that jerky like
I wouldn't even.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
That's that's you know, that's probably arguable good. Like I
so what I listened to Kelvin. I've never listened to
Rob's stuffs.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
I have no idea. I didn't even know stupid, I didn't.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
I feel like I feel like somebody who steps into
the fold and has that type of belief in themselves.
He's trying to honor you, bro, like you're in the
you're in the raptors, Like okay, people like we're in
twenty twenty five. People still talk about Lawrence Taylor. People
still remember Lawrence Taylor. You see the number fifty six,
people immediately think of Lawrence Taylor. It's probably ingrained in
(29:44):
most people's minds, but there's a younger generation of people
out here that aren't in it like that It's like
the the further you get away from the past, people forget.
You can ask somebody about the number fifty in this
current generation of people have no idea who Lawrence Taylor is.
(30:06):
People my age and a little older, maybe a few
people a little younger they know or may know. But
you get into this like next generation, like the generation
of like the twenty twenty five ors twenty six is
maybe even twenty sevens. They don't know nobody. They don't
(30:30):
know them. So what is it like to me? What
is it that big of a deal? Again, it's Lawrence
Taylor's choice if he wants him to, if he wants
to release it to be worn again or not done.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
And by the way, it's not like he pursued it
and didn't ask. He asked out of respect. Hey, maybe
he'll shoot it down. Maybe he won't.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
And he shot it down. That's fine, No big deal.
Isn't eleven retired for New York too? Yeah? I think
the eleven is. So I got an idea, God, what
is it?
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Because you know what, I wore fifty six in the league,
and I know you're gonna throw out the other number.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
I know you're gonna do that. That's right I wore.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
But people have to understand. People are like, oh, LaVar's
wearing fifty six. He's trying to be like Lawrence Taylor.
He's trying to be like Lawrence Ston. No, I wasn't.
I didn't take fifty six because of Lawrence Taylor. Like
you see people wear twenty three. You know he took
fifty or twenty three because of Michael Jordan. I didn't
take fifty six to be like Lawrence Taylor. I love
Lawrence Taylor's game. I was getting compared to Lawrence Taylor.
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But I did not take fifty six to be Lawrence Taylor.
I took fifty six because I couldn't wear eleven. If
I could have wore eleven, I would have wore eleven.
And Pep were like, oh, you were in fifty six,
you were in fifty six, you were in I wore
fifty six because you were not allowed to wear the
number eleven. If you put a plus sign in between
the five and the six, it equals what. That's why
(31:53):
I wore fifty six. Just so people are clear and
so for what is worth Like if that man wants
to try to wear your jersey and you don't want
him to wear it, then don't let him wear it,
But don't act as though like it's like beyond reproach
or anything to actually make the request as somebody who's
accomplished what Abdul was accomplished.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Like that's real, that's weird. Well, I am allowed to ask.
I mean, I've heard different about why you chose fifty one.
I wore fifty six because they equaled eleven. I heard
that you.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
I heard that you reached out to Patrick Ramsey about
getting number eleven and he basically told.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
You to go.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
So I was there before Patrick rams Listen, I'm just
reporting what I heard. Now, there's a solution all this.
If if Abdul Carter wants to continue the tradition of
honoring the great LeVar Arrington, wear fifty five.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Yeah, but it's not about come on, it's what you
wore in New York.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
It is what I wore in New York, and it
was mister nig I named it mister Nichols. I labeled
it mister Nigga. I got a tattoo called mister Nichols.
It's Abdul Carter did not honor me when he wore
eleven at Penn State. He honored a legacy, and that's
what I'm saying. So if he were to wear fifty six,
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now you're honoring a legacy that was created by Lawrence Taylor, which,
by the way, there's a lot of wrong along the
way of the legacy that Lawrence Taylor built.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
You might get a guy.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
You might get a young man that actually right some
of the wrongs that were connected to some of the
things that may be connected to the number. Because everybody
ain't a fan. Sometimes people got to understand. Now everybody
isn't going to be a fan. You're gonna have different
sides of the coin. There's some people that look at
him and they're repulsed by Lawrence Taylor. Repulsed. And you
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know what, you got a young man who has a
great background, comes from.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
From a two.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Parent family, has represented himself the right way, and wants
to honor the legacy of what you did in fifty
six at the at the franchise you were drafted to.
You have the right to decide I want him to wear.
I'm certainly okay with him wearing my number. As you mentioned,
(34:12):
warm Moon was on that side of it. Lawrence Taylor says,
make your own number famous, kick rock skid. He's on
that side of it, It's fine, there's nothing wrong with that.
What I believe to be something wrong with is all
these other people chiming in on it, acting as though
like like he shouldn't be thinking highly of himself, he
(34:35):
shouldn't want to aim for the stars, and he shouldn't
want to try to be as much as he can
be or be confident in himself and what he wants
to do and what he wants to accomplish. How many
people told you about your dream and what you want
to do and how you're going to do it.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Okay, I'm just saying that's what you got.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Guys like Ron Parker wrong, airing him out whatever his
name is, airing out stupid. I'm just sick of it, man,
And why they got all these people coming on their
show trying.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
To air me out. I have to call in, I
have to drop a diam on now. I think it's racist,
to be honest with you. I'm sick of it, and
we can we cannot tolerate this anymore. Love, Kelvin, Love,
Robb g Alex, everybody on that show. I don't know
what's that I don't know this bit that you're doing,
but just let's take a break for it. We we
(35:22):
lose the segment because I don't know what this bit is.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
You got it. It's no bit, it's a bit, it's
no bit. I'm standing up for you. It's a bit.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
I'm standing up for you, and I can hear the
sarcasm and your voice.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Weird man. Let's take it. Let's take it to break. Well,
let's get out of here.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
On behalf of Two Pros and a Cup of Joe
here on Fox Sports Radio. We will not stand for
any of the disrespect on other shows here.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
On this one.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Coming up next here that we are going to have
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Speaker 3 (36:06):
The stiff arm gets me every time. Yeah, it's so unnecessary.
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Speaker 3 (36:40):
Right now, it's time for this.
Speaker 5 (36:43):
These might smell.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
A little fun cake sounds incredible, but they're still good.
Time to find out what's left. It's Lee's leftovers.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
All right to laugh? What do we got? Will Fellas?
Speaker 8 (36:55):
You know, I had to bring it to Lee's Leftovers.
It's gone viral. Everyone's talking about it on the social media.
Who would win in a fight a gorilla versus one
hundred unarmed men?
Speaker 3 (37:08):
It's not even a why is this he? In a
convers I'd be a blood bath. Yeah, the gorilla would
annihilate them.
Speaker 6 (37:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
I just wonder if one of them, some way, somehow
we're able to like just say, kick them in the nuts.
I wonder what that have an impact for the rest
of the guys that which I'm clear that the dude
that was able to execute it would have probably been
been annihilated at the point time that had his leg
(37:36):
ripped off. But I'm just wondering what that have hurt
him enough? Where the rest of them, because I seem
to think the only way you could possibly have a
chance as one hundred is you got to sacrifice like
the first fifty first fifty lives to be able to
like try to fatigue the gorilla.
Speaker 8 (37:58):
The fatigue would have to be the fact, because yeah,
once you take it, once he takes out fifty the
other fifty, you're all scattered and scared to death.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
You can't choke him out. You're not going to choke
their nextra too. Things.
Speaker 8 (38:10):
It would have to be coordinated right at the beginning
to just dog pile right off the bat's work.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
It's not enough, there's not it's not gonna work.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
And whatever grip you had on him, even if you're
like a black belt in jiu jitsu, he could break
the grip like with one hand, Like it's I.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
Will say that would be interesting, Like you get the
whole Gracie family, like all of the gracies, like not
the biggest strongest, like you send it in the biggest
strongest dudes, like like four the mountain. Do you send that?
Do you send them in? Like a hundred of them?
Speaker 3 (38:43):
He would destroy the mountain and legacy, but.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
One hundred of them because them cats can lift a
ton of weight.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
I mean, and them steroids, you know, they get you
super Yet if we're even in you know, the war
here than steroids, maybe uh, maybe there's you know, hg
h it.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Up and then just throw them out there and see
what you got. Possibly maybe a chance. Has anybody ever
tried to kick a gorilla in the nuts.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
You've got to be one dumb lover to do that, Like, like,
how do you live to tell that story?
Speaker 3 (39:21):
Hey, I kicked the I kicked the ape in the fall?
Like what why? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (39:30):
First of all, I think just the presence of a
silver back and and there being no barriers in between
you is enough.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
He's already beat.
Speaker 4 (39:42):
At least it's over. He's already beat the vast majority.
If you're not dumb enough, I mean, if you're not
smart enough to be scared, then then God said has
served its purpose.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
So people are clear.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
The the guardrails at a zoo are not there to
protect them. It's there to touch you. Okay, like you're
the one at risk seez
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