June 3, 2025 • 40 mins
Charles Barkley struggles to detail what’s next for Inside the NBA. NFL Insider, Pete Prisco talks Russell Wilson, Stefon Diggs, OTA’s and more! Plus, dirty scavengers on Lee’s Leftovers.
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Speaker 1 (00:37):
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and the what else?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
What else? So she taking us to the endo?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Who knows?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Man? And midway through, hey.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Man, it just you know, we're all just all just
trucking along.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
We all.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
All right. So the conversation surrounding the future of the NBA, which,
by the way, the NBA Finals tip off. We needed
all this time, We needed all this time to ramp
up for a preview of the NBA Finals involving the
Thunder and the Pacers. So not only are they not
did they not play last night. There was no NBA
Finals tonight, there won't be one tomorrow, and then finally
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it'll rezoom on Thursday. So we needed all this time,
Like sometimes I think the second week of the two
weeks in between the conference championship games and the Super Bowl.
Sometimes I think that's a bit much. This feels like
a bit much for the NBA. But nonetheless, here we
are and the NBA Finals will resume or will tip
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off rather coming up on Thursday. So there's the question
which involves the end of the NBA on TNT after
all those years, and what the future holds for inside
the NBA. And they've been trying to tell everybody that listen,
we're going to be here. It's just going to be
on another network. It's going to be on another platform.
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Charles Barkley was on with Dan Patrick yesterday, which you
can hear on many of these Fox Sports radio affiliates,
and he had this.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
To say, I actually have seven years left on my contract.
I'm like, yeah, there's no way I'm working seven years.
I says, you know, I'm gonna be a good soldier
for Kenny, Ernie and Shaq and the people I work
with because I love the people I work with, especially
behind the scenes. I said, but the best I can
do is two years, we're only probably going to be
working for ESPN like half the time to one third
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at a time. So I think TNT wants to do something.
And we taped the pilot about a month ago and
it was the stupidest ever. Number one, we won't have
basketball highlights, but also we're probably going to be going
up against the NBA game and in it who likes
basketball ain't gonna say, hey, you know what, let me
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turn off an NBA game that's on Amazon, ESPN or
NBC to go watch these four dudes hit around and
talk about nothing. So it's complicated.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
So that was Charles Barkley yesterday on The Dan Patrick
Show discussing the future of inside the NBA.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
And it's not just four dudes.
Speaker 6 (03:23):
But I think the beauty of what they do, Jonas
is that you have such great personalities and all of
them from Ernie on out to Charles and Shaq and Kenny.
But I think it's the perfect blend of them doing
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a pregame, you know, talking about it, hitting into the game,
the halftime and the end, right like to do an
entire show. I think you ask your First of all,
you're changing the dynamic right. Second of all, if you're
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not allowed to show the games or what show the highlights,
how is the how.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Does that work? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (04:13):
I just I just think that you you caught magic.
You you it is lightning in a bottle, and it's
it's going away. And the best thing that could happen
is ESPN sees the value and what it is that
that they're doing right now and what they've done, and
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and come to the conclusion that we're going to figure
out a way to make this this style of show
work at ESPN.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
I just I know that they're saying it's going to
be the same, it's just on a different platform. I
have my doubts.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I just now, well, like why not just move everything?
Speaker 6 (04:57):
Like if again, maybe Ernie doesn't that, but they're saying
that they're having a conversation where he would even be
willing to do like split duties because he doesn't want
to leave T and T.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Well, I mean they're all going like all four of
those guys, everybody behind the scenes. I just wonder if
Charles Barkley putting an end date on everything. Maybe he
knows that despite the fact that they're all going to
be together behind the scenes, in front of the camera,
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et cetera, it's just not going to be the same.
Like there's something like maybe he's got his doubts about
whether or not ESPN or whoever is going to be
able to piece together the same magic that they had
that you talked.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
About as possible.
Speaker 6 (05:42):
I mean, that's again, if if I'm ESPN, you got
enough resources to make sure that show is.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Just moving, do not mess with it, don't touch it.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Yeah, just let it be, move it. That's it.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
Even if I could keep it where it's at and
do it exactly the same way, just do it's the
same way. That's it doesn't take much because they're the personalities,
like they're so off script and they're just so authentic.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
It's just just.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
Keep it the same. You don't have to do anything,
just keep it the same. So I don't see why
it's complicated. And Chuck signs a seven year contract, Man,
he might feel different after year one, Yeah, he might
feel different after year two. You start looking at that contract.
I don't know about I don't know about Chuck, But
I mean I could assume I could assume that them
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numbers go up by the year.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
I would assume they go up.
Speaker 6 (06:38):
I could be wrong, but I don't think that you're
making the same in year seven that you're making in
year one.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
I'll say that.
Speaker 6 (06:46):
And so if that's the case, he might get to
the end of that year too and be like, dude,
I'm walking away from this, Like I don't think so
I get to have fun, laugh with with Kenny Albert,
you know, Ernie and Shack, and we talked basketball. Come on, man,
I don't.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
I don't. What else are you going to do?
Speaker 6 (07:08):
I mean, you know what I mean, like you, he
does so many other things, but like that doesn't take.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Too much of his time. I'd also want to do it.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
I'd also push back a little bit on what he
said where you know, I don't. I don't think basketball
fans are gonna want to watch us over an NBSA.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
They would, Yes, they would, they would.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
I'll tell you there's I mean, I can't, like, there's
a few matchups I'd rather watch the game. But for
the most part, like if you tell me, like hey man, Hornets,
Wizards or inside the NBA, I'm good. I'll go watch
inside the NBA. I want to be entertained like this.
The season's long, if you know, with load management and
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players resting and and and everything that we even those
guys talk about it like they get they get fatigued
by the products sometimes and based on the product that
we've watched. And look, there's been some really fun and
exciting games in the playoffs, but there's also been some stinkers, man,
where teams are getting blown out by thirty thirty five points.
Do I really want to sit through that when I
can watch the best sports pre and postgame show in
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the history of the business. And if they're gonna do it,
and if Charlie.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
Says the show is going to be going during the games, yeah,
you know what I mean. Like, it's not like a pregame,
halftime deal, postgame deal.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
It's like it's a show.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
I don't know how good that would be if they
have to do it for that long of a span,
That's what I'm saying. I think the magic is in
the fact that it's such a limited amount of time
that they put in. You know, like, how how long
is it before they go into the game. Do they
do like an hour?
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Half hour? I believe half hour. Yeah, so if it's
like a seven thirty Eastern time tip, they'll start at
seven o'clock Easter, and so they do.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Then they half hour and that's what ten minutes.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Ten minutes at the half. They'll do a quick postgame
show before the second game, and then they'll do a halftime.
So we're talking, you know, six hits.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
I think there's something to that because you got to
keep in mind, you know, Chuck, Chuck act like an
old head, so he going to be getting like his
rest and whatever it is he's doing in between. You know,
Kenny's an old hit, even though he don't act like it.
He's he's he's like he's still vibrant, but he's he's
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still an old hit. Ernie's an old hit. And and
I mean, you know, Shack is shocked, but I just
I don't.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
He's saying they're they're too old to go for at hour.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
I'm not saying they're too old. I'm just saying, damn.
Speaker 6 (09:51):
I'm just saying the way it's formated, I think works
to their advantage because it's not too much heavy lifting.
They don't have to be too planned out because it's
not too long. Like if you think about it, imagine
like we do three hours of this and people be
talking crazy about us, you know what I mean, And
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it's like you don't understand what it's like to have
to do content for an extended amount of time until
you've done it, and to do it live on top
of that.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
So if you are.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
Doing a show that's an hour to two hours long,
whatever it would be, I would assume it would be
an hour long show or what they just have them
in the studio talking basketball while the.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Games are going on.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
I don't know, but just to say an hour straight
of doing a show where you have twelve minute twelve minute,
but like TV is a little what it's like quicker
when you're structured, So it would have been like I'm
trying to remember the clock when I was doing TV.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Well, I think the commercials are short or so, the
the brakes are shorter. I know, I know. The first
time I ever did TV after doing radio for years,
I was shocked at how fast it went.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
It's quick. TV's quick. You gotta be quick and they're
in your air. Get out of there, get out of there,
Go go to Chuck, Go to Chuck. Okay, okay, rap rap,
start the rap, start the wrap at Chuck. Go go
to Kenny, Go to Kenny. Okay, okay, we're running out
of time. We're running out of time. Albert, take it,
Take take it, Ernie, take it Ernie, like like, get
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us to the bump, Get us to the bump, like, dude,
the teaser, like, all right, there's the v O like.
It's just I don't know. I don't know if that
would that format would be doing them justice, is all
I say.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I'll take my chances. I'm not watching Wizards, Hornets. Apologies
to anybody walking around in a West unselled throwback, just
not happening for me. I'll watch Inside the NBA what
I'm just and back to the original point. Whoever gets
a hold of it, don't screw it up, just let
it be. Let it be, let them do what they do.
(12:04):
Don't get involved, don't let your ego get involved. And
say I want to put my stamp on this show. No,
the stamp has already been put on this show. It's great.
Let it go for as long as possible before those
guys get sick of it. But don't anybody touch it
and try and ruin the thing that's it.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
I feel like from the intro music to all of
it, it just all fits, man, and that just sucks because
you're not going to keep the music the same, right,
it's not going to beat it like all the way
the same. Then it just comes across as like it's
the same guys, but it ain't the same.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
I don't know. Yeah, it's gonna be different.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
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(13:01):
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Speaker 2 (13:09):
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Speaker 1 (13:24):
Two pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up in
about a little over twenty minutes from now, we are
going to have another edition of Lee's Leftovers. That'll be
yours right here on FSR. Right now, though, we welcome
in the man himself a Tuesday tradition. He is Pete Prisco,
senior NFL columnist for CBS Sports. He's a CBS Sports
(13:46):
HQ analyst and you can get him on x at
Prisco CBS Pee, Good morning, how are we feeling?
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Good morning?
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Pek oh, Brady Quinn today?
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Huh?
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Now or next week or the week after?
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Going?
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Keep going?
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Going?
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Or going or going? How long.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
He's going to be on the Energizer Bunny Break?
Speaker 4 (14:08):
You know how long?
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Stop?
Speaker 4 (14:14):
But you know what, LeVar, you get a lot of
airtime that way. Then, because I know Brady, I know
Brady Brady. You know, we used to call it like
Brady would intercept. It would go okay, the host would
say something, then Brady would say something, and then it'd
come to me or whoever on the end, and then
always before it went back to the host, Brady had
intercept it and make his final points. You know what
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I mean. He never played He never played dB in
his life, but he always knew how to intercept when
he was when it comes to sit on the deck,
I'll tell you that right now. You know what I say, LeVar.
What's good for me is good for me, and so
Brady's not there, it's good for you. You get more air.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Right So, Peter, I got like listening to Jonas though all.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Pete, I got to ask you a I got to
ask you a question because I wanted you to just
further explain something that you put on social media. I
was looking at one of your tweets from Pete Frisco
at Prisco CBS on X quote, it's that time of
the year. Every player at OTA's is in the best
shape of his life. Every surgery they had has been
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a success. They are all ready to take the next step.
And even lollipop throws on air make this app droole,
it's boys of summertime, no pads, no tell I mean,
what sets you off in that direction?
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Because every single day on Twitter or X every single
day somebody is getting lauded for the way they look
or how great a shape they're in or with the
video of a throw. Look at this guy, he's throwing great,
he's throwing one on one with nobody covering anybody. I mean,
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give me a break. And so it's just he's been
that way. I remember way back in the day when
I covered the Jaguars in the nineties, this guy showed
up and he was a wide receiver and he came
in and he was making all these plays and he's
talking all this smack, and then the veterans came in.
They said, wait, do we get him in pads? And
as soon as he got him pad, he disappeared. And
so I just think that we get so enamored with
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what's going on, and the reality is you can't read
anything into this. Nobody can hit, nobody can get real physical.
We don't know what they're doing because you don't know
if and I have many a quarterback when I traveled
around my training camp tours and talking to guys and saying, look,
I don't know why they chart passes in training camp.
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I might work on something here where I wouldn't even
do it in a game, just to see if it
might work and if it's intercepted, oh well, And yet
here we are charting plays. I saw the other day
at a Cleveland Browns camp they charted the throws of
the quarterbacks. What are we doing? It's crazy.
Speaker 6 (16:59):
Now that game like they say, look like Tarzan game
like Jane, that's that was the phrase that was used.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
You know, you know, LeVar, you know how it is.
And by the way, and by the way, having said
all that, I'm gonna be at bucks Ota practice.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Today was here you go gettin another Bucks practice.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
There's a Sanders on the Bucks team, so that'd be
interesting to see how you know he's performing. But I
guess I want to ask you, Pete in terms of
am I wrong?
Speaker 3 (17:32):
You know, the.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
Coach Dion Sanders came out, had to say what he
had to say about the situation with with Shador. Am
I wrong for saying? Can we take the name out
of the pick? You're the fourth or fourth? I want
to say, fourth pick of the fifth round? There was
a quarterback taken in the third round they brought into
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free agents. There's Deshaun wall that's like, whatever his situation is?
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Am I wrong for saying?
Speaker 6 (18:05):
If you take out and you remove the name from
that fifth round pick, what is the likelihood of a
fifth rounder surpassing a third rounder. That's first, first, and foremost,
which is the largest one, that's the biggest one. How
does a fifth rounder overtake a third rounder for one
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and then two? How does a fifth rounder overtake that
third rounder, then overtake the backup, then overtake the starter
to become the starter of the team.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
How?
Speaker 6 (18:40):
I mean, if you take the name away from it
and you look at it at its bare minimum and
exercise common sense, it doesn't make any sense. Pete, Can
you make it make sense for me? How should we
be looking at this? Because to me, I'm not going
to look at it as it's Shador Sanders. I'm going
to look at it as this was a fifth round
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draft pick. What are his his you know, possibilities in
terms of being a player on this team.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
And I can guarantee you LeVar one hundred percent that's
exactly how the Cleveland Browns are looking at it. I mean,
you made the point. Look, Dylan Gabriel is picked in
the third round ahead of him for a reason. They
clearly thought he was a better prospect and a better
player and had the attention to be a better quarterback.
Now that's not to sit here and say that mischedr
Sanders can't go in there and now play them. He can,
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and he has that opportunity. But when you look at it,
on the surface of his name wasn't Sanders and it
was something else. He'd be a fifth round pick that
everybody would sit there and say, oh, boy, I hope
he plays well enough to maybe even make the team.
That's the reality of it. And now they're talking about,
like you said, going past Dylan Gabriel, going past Picket,
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going past Joe Flacco. I mean, let's get real. And sometimes,
you know, we put so much into this stuff before
the process, and when the guy goes in the fifth round,
everybody goes, oh, he got it. Nobody they didn't draft
him because of his dad. They didn't draft him because
of this. They didn't draft them because Jilli fits around,
because that's what they thought of them. You know, I
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was on with the guy when they did draft him,
one of our analysts, and he said, oh, they got
one over on Pittsburgh. I said, they got one over
on Pittsburgh. If Pittsburgh wanted them, they could have drafted
him anytime they wanted to. Nobody wanted to pick him
until the fifth round, and that's why the fifth round
pick period.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
He is Pete Prisco joining us here on Fox Sports Radio,
CBS Sports HQ analyst. Also a columnist for CBS Sports
as well too, and you can get him on ex
at Prisco CBS. All right, so then let me ask
you this, because Russell Wilson, speaking of Pittsburgh, was the
Steelers quarterback last year. He goes on with this podcast
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with Carmelo Anthony. He's talking about all the reasons that
he liked the Giants. You know, he's familiar with the
locker room because that's where you want a super met life.
Molik neighbors Brian Dayball and his you know, his acumen
when it comes to calling plays as an offensive mind.
Isn't though, the real reason that he's in New York
with the Giants because the Steelers didn't want him anymore.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Nor did anybody else except for the Giants. I mean,
let's be real. And by the way, the whole locker
room thing, give me a break. I won a Super
Bowl there, so I'm familiar with it. Well that's why
you went there. Come on, But he said some of
the weirdest stuff. It makes no sense to me. He
went there because they gave him an opportunity to play
and be a quarterback on their team. And maybe not
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for the long haul, but for right away he will
probably be their starting quarterback on opening day. And so
that's why you went there. Why can't you just say that?
Why can't I just be honest about it. I didn't
have a lot of opportunities elsewhere. The Steelers didn't want
me back, and I decided to go to the Giants.
And that's that's fine, that's what you did. But don't
say it's because of the locker room and you had
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elite neighbors, anything else. They wanted you. You came to
a deal, you went there. It had nothing to do
with anything else.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Pete bringing that font today, I mean.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Let's let's what did Russell Wilson do to you?
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Pete? You do nothing.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
I just I just I just always look, I look,
I'll be honest with you. Back in the day, I
always thought he was a little overrated and uh and
and you know, I kind of stood in that hill
and he had a couple of good years and people
came back at me, and then the reality is is
he has been overrated. So I just you are what
you are. You know, Look, he's a good, solid quarterback.
I never thought he was a great quarterback, and so sometimes,
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like I say, he had the top scoring defense in
the league four straight years in Seattle. You know, the
last team to do that was the fifties dynasty of
the Browns. I mean, it makes playing quarterback a lot easier.
And based on that one time, I went around asking
a lot of quarterbacks that summer, what would you rather
have the top ranks scoring defense or or two good
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wide receivers, And every single one of them said the
top rank.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
Scoring Seah, it makes your life easier, absolutely. Pete uh
speaking of top scoring, what's your take on Stephan Diggs Man? Like,
start wherever you want to start, and wherever you like,
you know, you take it how you want to take it.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Come on, come on, Tucie man.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Come on, yeah, I mean, come on, what is he doing?
First off, why would you even be around if that
is indeed what that was, And we don't know that's
what it was. It sure looked like it, But if
it was, why even be around it? I mean, they
you know, if he was not doing it, which is
you know, probably maybe he didn't. Maybe he'll test them
and find out. But why would you if that's what
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that was, why would you be in your even be
around it? It makes no sense. Why would you be
the one handing it out? I don't get it. And
I know, look, you get caught up in the in
the whole Hollywood lifestyle and whatever, and and you get
two enamored into that and maybe maybe, just maybe he
wasn't doing it. He just got caught up in and
handed it off. Who knows. But he's got to be
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better than that. And not only that, you're coming off
the thirty one and you're coming off a major injury,
I mean thirty one and coming off a major injury
wide receiver is never a good thing. It's never a
good thing when you have stuff going on as well.
So it was an ugly look for him, you know.
And should it have happened? No, But again we don't
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know what that was. We have an idea you think
it is, but we I'm you know, I've never seen
that stuff, and neither of any of you, I would imagine,
So I just you know, who knows. And by the way,
I did do research on it just to look it up.
It didn't cocaine. You know, people think it's pink cocaine.
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That's not what it is.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Well, I was going to ask your pete, like when
whatever you do to see, like what are the side effects?
Is it similar to what you know?
Speaker 4 (24:57):
I party all night and get up the next day
and do it all over again. I mean, it's like,
you know, no, I read, I read, I read, I
read what it was. You know what it is. It's
it's like some synthetic drug that has ketamine in it
and like molly, and it keeps you up all night
partying and everything else. And I just don't know. I
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don't understand why he would even be around that. It
makes no sense to me. So I mean I could
see when he gave it away. I saw how happy
is his audience was, so maybe that had something to
do with it. But I just don't understand why he
would even be around that. And by the way, I
want to hear see how the Patriots handle this, because
remember it's Mike Rabel. It's a whole new regime, and
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you know they're not going to tolerate anything. We'll see
because he wandered onto the practice field yesterday and didn't
seem like there are any repercussions, did there.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Jordan Schultz's buddy Ian Rappafort said that they're not expected
to release Stefon Diggs. You know, they don't expect for
him to get cut or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
So I don't know.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
I wouldn't, No, I wouldn't. But the only thing that
would get him cut would be if he didn't look
like Stefan Diggs. Yeah, I mean, I mean that the
reality is, you know, and look, when he was in Buffalo,
he was a pain in the ass. And I can
tell you this from being there and last summer they were,
they were thought it was additioned by subtraction. When he
was gone, I mean, he became, you know, a guy
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that wanted the ball all the time, and and Josh
Allen would you know, lock in on him and he'd
hear it from him all the time. And not that
they didn't have a good relationship, because they liked each other,
but that gets annoying after a while, and then it
bleeds over to the other receivers. I mean, go back
to Gabe Davis, by the way, Go back to Gabe
Davis in that playoff game against the Chiefs, way back
in the day, Remember how he looked like he was
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going to be an emerging star. Well, well what happened
to him? Well, you know, I think he got digs
a little bit. I think he got into that, you know,
in the fact that he was like, you know, I
thought he had arrived and he didn't. And so he
goes to Jacksonville and you know, gets heavy, he got
hurt a little bit, but one of the same player
now he's out there. And so I think sometimes you
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you don't you like having a wide receiver who wants
the ball. And by the way, they all want the ball.
I mean, you know, I go back to when I
covered Jacksonville back in the day. They had Jimmy Smith.
It was a great, great, great, great receiver who would
have been a Hall of Famer if his career and
did derailed by you know, failed tests. And Keenan McCardell.
And Keenan was great too, And I used to tell Keenan,
(27:26):
I go, you're meaning because he wanted the ball time.
Then he went to Tampa and it was Keith, Sean
and Keenan and they won the Super Bowl. And I
always used to say it was me Sean and Meanan
playing wide.
Speaker 6 (27:39):
He having Jimmy Smith together was pretty wild though.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
That was pretty much they were.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
They were fantastic. Keenan McCardell, by the way, now the
wide receiver coach who but who actually was there when
a big part of Stephan Diggs development is a wide
receiver coach of the Minnesota Viking. He's one of the
best in the business. Uh and he still would go
playing about not getting the football.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Coach, Pete, Pete, I want to ask you because this
seems like a bunch of crap to me. Kyle Pitts
has an undisclosed injury and is not working out with
the Atlanta Falcons at OTAs. I think they're keeping him
safe because they're trying to trade him.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
What say you, They are trying to trade him, and
but you know what, there there's I don't think there's
going to be as a robust to market as they
think it might be out there. And look, everybody thought
Kyle Pitts had the tools, the talent, the skills to
be a big time tight end in this league. But
he's not tough. Let's be real. I mean that that's
(28:42):
the knock on him around the league. He's not tough.
And that they concerned about that, and so I want
you want to you know, he gets knocked around a
little bit, and that's that's that's the knock on him
around the league. And so yeah, I don't think he
has an injury. I think they're sitting him on the
sideline and uh and letting them. We hope somebody makes
a move to go get them. And and by the way,
(29:02):
there's some guys that know Jalen Ramsey sitting there to
be traded too. I mean Miami Box, Miami bought that situation.
Look what Miami did. Miami gave him a new contract
last year, then paid him a four million dollar roster
bonus in March, and now they want to trade them.
Miami's a disaster that team. They gave out all these
(29:24):
extensions last year, threw them around like nothing, and they're
a disaster. And now Jalen Ramsey is sitting there. Who's
going to trade for Jalen Ramsey in that contract unless
Miami eats a bunch of it? And will they be
willing to eat a bunch of it?
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (29:39):
Uh, Pete, did you see the question that was asked
to the receiver and Jamar Chase and Cincinnati about preseason
and the correlation of slow starts based off of this
new trend of how preseasons are being handled, Like what.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
What do you subscribe to? Like what was your takeaway
on that?
Speaker 6 (30:02):
Because to me, I've always felt like preseason isn't necessary.
Evil You gotta feel what it feels like to tackle,
You gotta feel what it feels like to be tackled.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
You got to feel what that the.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
Physicality of the game feels like in order to get
yourself ready for the regular season. Now I say that limited, right, first,
first game limited, you know, second game a little more,
third game you've you've played into the second half, and
then you know you come out. Now there's not the
(30:35):
same amount of games anymore. But what's your take on
how the preseason should be handled by these pros and
these coaches.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
You're one spot on by the way, they don't hit
in camp anymore barely. They don't tackle in camp ever.
And so if you don't play in the preseason, by
the time you play an opening week, that's the first
time you're having any contact or tackling. And that's why
if you look get the tackling in the first month
of the season, horrible. And they can do all the
(31:05):
drills they want on angles, and you know they have
dummies and electronic dummies they work on angles. Give me
a break. It's not the same. And you played the
game of the our, you know that you got to hit,
got to be and I think you know they've gotten
away from that. The fear of injury is become magnified
(31:25):
to the point where they're not getting the good fundamentals
in and I think it's turtned the gate. I mean,
when was the last time you've gone to a practice
and training camp and watched nine on seven the middle drill.
They'll do it anymore. They don't. Nobody lined up on
the goal line and hits nobody. It's it's minimal hitting,
(31:46):
it's pass and tapping. But I'm talking about a full
on hitting drill.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
They'll do it.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
And then so then they wonder what's wrong with the
offensive line. Well, offensive lines have to work together. And
again go back to the dummies. You can work a
double team to the next level when you're working against
the dummy or your fellow offensive linemen who's standing there
like a load of a lump of you know, large
standing there, and you can get to them easily instead
(32:14):
of a two hundred and eighty pounds defensive tackle who
can move. Let's see how you handle that when you're
trying to get off him. Hope, you're you know you're
the tackle. You get off to him, get to the
next level and you think your guard has them handle,
but he's quick enough. The Knights through and make the play.
You don't know how you're going to handle that, And
so I think that all the fundamentals of football have
gone out the window because we're so protective of the
(32:36):
players now. Sometimes you need to just go hit, you
need to just go tackle, and if you're not going
to do it in the preseason, you have to find
a way to do it somewhere, because I think when
you get the Week one and you have it tackled
and you haven't been hit, and you haven't been jammed
at the line of scrimmage and thrown to the ground,
I think that's where we're losing a lot of the
good football early in the season.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Pete, before I let you go, just wanted to get
a prediction and from you. Obviously, the your Florida Panthers
are taking on my Edmonton Oilers, and I know Lebar
and I are big Oilers fans, so I just wanted
to know how you thought that you are.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
LaVar and I both know you're not.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Var Var is not LaVar is not an Edmonton oiler
sa he couldn't name one player on it.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Penn and Caps, give me, give me, give.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Me, give me an Edmonton oiler player, LeVar, I told
you I'm Pins and Caps, I'm Penguins, okay, but.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
You still be able to give me an You still
should be able to give me an Edmundton oiler player.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
No, I shouldn't. I don't, I don't watch.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
He's the best player in the world.
Speaker 6 (33:40):
Connor McDavis, I'm today years old when I knew that
today years old he's the best player.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Work and and Jody, you're not you're not You're not
a Edmonton oiler.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
No.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Yeah, I'm just trying to get you.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Get you okay. By the way, bitting fire.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Off, how long's it been since Canada won a Stanley Cup?
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Was it ninety three? Was it the Canadians last time.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
It's been a long, long, long long time. And you
know what, it's gonna be another long long year because
Florida is a better tune. They're tougher. They're more physical,
and we saw last year what happens when you're physical
that the Edmonton Oilers team they go hide and they're
gonna beat him up. No, Zach Heyman is big for
Edmonton and the depth of the Florida Panthers is way
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too much and they beat him up. They'll beat him
in six six games, not gonna go seven this time
around to beat him in six.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Look at that hockey analysis, Pete Prisco.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
There, I will.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
Talk about Skinner. The goalie has been playing well. I'm
a little he's played well for for Edmonton, but you
know what, before he started playing really well, he was
going really bad. So I think he's gonna have a
chance to go really rotten. And Lebroston never goes.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Are you going to get to a You're gonna get
to a game in Sunrise? There, Pete, you get a
ticket to maybe.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Because I'm going out to training camp, I mean the
mini camp next week, so I don't know maybe, but
I will definitely be glued to every single one of them.
I love it. I can't wait.
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Speaker 4 (35:14):
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Speaker 3 (35:16):
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Speaker 1 (35:24):
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Speaker 2 (36:16):
These might smell.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
A little fun, that sounds incredible.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
But they're still good. Time to find out what's lap?
It's Lee's lap jobs?
Speaker 1 (36:25):
All right to laugh? What do we got, oh man? Tons?
Speaker 3 (36:27):
To get to? How about this little update?
Speaker 7 (36:30):
If you'd been following us a while ago, Big Bear
had its first eagles hatched.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
A while ago.
Speaker 7 (36:35):
Well they've now gone to gotten to fly. Sunny flew
away yesterday. Gizmo's still in the nest waiting to fly.
So of the two eagles they're in Big Bear, one
has flown the coop.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
People got to get a life, man, Just get a life.
Speaker 7 (36:49):
I have doves on my patio. I got they come
every year.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Why why do we need to watch this?
Speaker 4 (36:55):
Like?
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Why is there a still camera on bald eagles?
Speaker 7 (36:59):
That's America's bird right there?
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Oh okay, you know?
Speaker 7 (37:04):
Did you know Ben Franklin didn't want the bald eagle
to be America's bird? He wanted the turkey? Oh yeah, yeah,
he hated bald eagles could considered him dirty scavengers.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Why are they dirty scavengers?
Speaker 7 (37:18):
Because they are they scavenge.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
They're dirty scavengers.
Speaker 6 (37:22):
Ben Franklin thought they go grab up fish out of
the water, like they don't necessarily always scavenge.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
They're birds of prey. That's what they're called. Birds of prey.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Yeah, raptors, Jelly. It feels like a reckless accusation you're
making there. Do you have any you want to substantiate
those clams or.
Speaker 7 (37:42):
I'm just telling you what Ben Franklin said. I didn't
say it was my opinion.
Speaker 6 (37:46):
I mean, I'm gonna stay away from this one. I'm
gonna stare clear away from going and Franklin because he's
not here to defend himself.
Speaker 7 (37:56):
He went he wanted the turkey.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
I mean horrible.
Speaker 6 (38:01):
Could you imagine the turkey being our ours?
Speaker 4 (38:04):
Wow?
Speaker 7 (38:04):
I mean, hey, Thanksgiving, it's basically our maskot right there.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
And he's connected to Thanksgiving? All right? What else?
Speaker 1 (38:13):
I just I think it's I think we've seen enough.
We've seen enough of the still camera shots. I don't
care if these birds fly. I'll be honest with you, like,
you know, if one of those birds just decides, hey man,
I'm out of here. Yeah, you know, like I didn't
even fly yet, but I'm jumping and listen, you know,
we're here in California, taxes are too high. I'm gone
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and next thing you.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Know, you know, he runs his nest is taking of
my neck.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
Well he want us to do here? Flights a ripoff?
Like I mean if I if I leave here, you
know they're making me wear COVID masks like I used.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
The hole.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Thing's a disaster. And for some reason we got a
still camera to watch some birds hang out on a tree.
There's got to be some isn't there like an accident
that they could focus on, Like, isn't there's some sort
of like road closure that always pops up last minute
that they can help people out with, as opposed to
putting a steel camera on a couple of birds. Cares
(39:09):
about it.
Speaker 7 (39:09):
You gotta have a fluff piece, man, you gotta have
a feel good piece on your local news.
Speaker 6 (39:13):
It's always there's all kinds of that are always being
bored born or something to that. Rabbits come on, Like
that's just so much work to go up and try
to find the eagles nests and then try to keep
a cam on it.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Like that's wild.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Like leaders of realize he's sitting here talking about a
feel good story that he called a Scavenger a couple
of minutes.
Speaker 7 (39:34):
Ago, like dirty Sketch.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
You basically call like they're the homeless person of birds.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 7 (39:43):
I have I have what I called doves on my patio,
but they could be dirty pigeons.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
I don't know. I always called it doubly dirty pigeon.
And you probably I'll be out there with.
Speaker 7 (39:56):
I'm gonna feed my doves.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
What are you guys drinking?
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Ha
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Speaker 1 (00:37):
Yeah listen, No Brady Quinn, but it'll be sticks and
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and the what else?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
What else? So she taking us to the endo?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Who knows?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Man? And midway through, hey.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Man, it just you know, we're all just all just
trucking along.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
We all.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
All right. So the conversation surrounding the future of the NBA, which,
by the way, the NBA Finals tip off. We needed
all this time, We needed all this time to ramp
up for a preview of the NBA Finals involving the
Thunder and the Pacers. So not only are they not
did they not play last night. There was no NBA
Finals tonight, there won't be one tomorrow, and then finally
(01:30):
it'll rezoom on Thursday. So we needed all this time,
Like sometimes I think the second week of the two
weeks in between the conference championship games and the Super Bowl.
Sometimes I think that's a bit much. This feels like
a bit much for the NBA. But nonetheless, here we
are and the NBA Finals will resume or will tip
(01:50):
off rather coming up on Thursday. So there's the question
which involves the end of the NBA on TNT after
all those years, and what the future holds for inside
the NBA. And they've been trying to tell everybody that listen,
we're going to be here. It's just going to be
on another network. It's going to be on another platform.
(02:11):
Charles Barkley was on with Dan Patrick yesterday, which you
can hear on many of these Fox Sports radio affiliates,
and he had this.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
To say, I actually have seven years left on my contract.
I'm like, yeah, there's no way I'm working seven years.
I says, you know, I'm gonna be a good soldier
for Kenny, Ernie and Shaq and the people I work
with because I love the people I work with, especially
behind the scenes. I said, but the best I can
do is two years, we're only probably going to be
working for ESPN like half the time to one third
(02:40):
at a time. So I think TNT wants to do something.
And we taped the pilot about a month ago and
it was the stupidest ever. Number one, we won't have
basketball highlights, but also we're probably going to be going
up against the NBA game and in it who likes
basketball ain't gonna say, hey, you know what, let me
(03:03):
turn off an NBA game that's on Amazon, ESPN or
NBC to go watch these four dudes hit around and
talk about nothing. So it's complicated.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
So that was Charles Barkley yesterday on The Dan Patrick
Show discussing the future of inside the NBA.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
And it's not just four dudes.
Speaker 6 (03:23):
But I think the beauty of what they do, Jonas
is that you have such great personalities and all of
them from Ernie on out to Charles and Shaq and Kenny.
But I think it's the perfect blend of them doing
(03:45):
a pregame, you know, talking about it, hitting into the game,
the halftime and the end, right like to do an
entire show. I think you ask your First of all,
you're changing the dynamic right. Second of all, if you're
(04:05):
not allowed to show the games or what show the highlights,
how is the how.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Does that work? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (04:13):
I just I just think that you you caught magic.
You you it is lightning in a bottle, and it's
it's going away. And the best thing that could happen
is ESPN sees the value and what it is that
that they're doing right now and what they've done, and
(04:33):
and come to the conclusion that we're going to figure
out a way to make this this style of show
work at ESPN.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
I just I know that they're saying it's going to
be the same, it's just on a different platform. I
have my doubts.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I just now, well, like why not just move everything?
Speaker 6 (04:57):
Like if again, maybe Ernie doesn't that, but they're saying
that they're having a conversation where he would even be
willing to do like split duties because he doesn't want
to leave T and T.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Well, I mean they're all going like all four of
those guys, everybody behind the scenes. I just wonder if
Charles Barkley putting an end date on everything. Maybe he
knows that despite the fact that they're all going to
be together behind the scenes, in front of the camera,
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et cetera, it's just not going to be the same.
Like there's something like maybe he's got his doubts about
whether or not ESPN or whoever is going to be
able to piece together the same magic that they had
that you talked.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
About as possible.
Speaker 6 (05:42):
I mean, that's again, if if I'm ESPN, you got
enough resources to make sure that show is.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Just moving, do not mess with it, don't touch it.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Yeah, just let it be, move it. That's it.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
Even if I could keep it where it's at and
do it exactly the same way, just do it's the
same way. That's it doesn't take much because they're the personalities,
like they're so off script and they're just so authentic.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
It's just just.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
Keep it the same. You don't have to do anything,
just keep it the same. So I don't see why
it's complicated. And Chuck signs a seven year contract, Man,
he might feel different after year one, Yeah, he might
feel different after year two. You start looking at that contract.
I don't know about I don't know about Chuck, But
I mean I could assume I could assume that them
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numbers go up by the year.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
I would assume they go up.
Speaker 6 (06:38):
I could be wrong, but I don't think that you're
making the same in year seven that you're making in
year one.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
I'll say that.
Speaker 6 (06:46):
And so if that's the case, he might get to
the end of that year too and be like, dude,
I'm walking away from this, Like I don't think so
I get to have fun, laugh with with Kenny Albert,
you know, Ernie and Shack, and we talked basketball. Come on, man,
I don't.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
I don't. What else are you going to do?
Speaker 6 (07:08):
I mean, you know what I mean, like you, he
does so many other things, but like that doesn't take.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Too much of his time. I'd also want to do it.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
I'd also push back a little bit on what he
said where you know, I don't. I don't think basketball
fans are gonna want to watch us over an NBSA.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
They would, Yes, they would, they would.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
I'll tell you there's I mean, I can't, like, there's
a few matchups I'd rather watch the game. But for
the most part, like if you tell me, like hey man, Hornets,
Wizards or inside the NBA, I'm good. I'll go watch
inside the NBA. I want to be entertained like this.
The season's long, if you know, with load management and
(07:49):
players resting and and and everything that we even those
guys talk about it like they get they get fatigued
by the products sometimes and based on the product that
we've watched. And look, there's been some really fun and
exciting games in the playoffs, but there's also been some stinkers, man,
where teams are getting blown out by thirty thirty five points.
Do I really want to sit through that when I
can watch the best sports pre and postgame show in
(08:14):
the history of the business. And if they're gonna do it,
and if Charlie.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
Says the show is going to be going during the games, yeah,
you know what I mean. Like, it's not like a pregame,
halftime deal, postgame deal.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
It's like it's a show.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
I don't know how good that would be if they
have to do it for that long of a span,
That's what I'm saying. I think the magic is in
the fact that it's such a limited amount of time
that they put in. You know, like, how how long
is it before they go into the game. Do they
do like an hour?
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Half hour? I believe half hour. Yeah, so if it's
like a seven thirty Eastern time tip, they'll start at
seven o'clock Easter, and so they do.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Then they half hour and that's what ten minutes.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Ten minutes at the half. They'll do a quick postgame
show before the second game, and then they'll do a halftime.
So we're talking, you know, six hits.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
I think there's something to that because you got to
keep in mind, you know, Chuck, Chuck act like an
old head, so he going to be getting like his
rest and whatever it is he's doing in between. You know,
Kenny's an old hit, even though he don't act like it.
He's he's he's like he's still vibrant, but he's he's
(09:37):
still an old hit. Ernie's an old hit. And and
I mean, you know, Shack is shocked, but I just
I don't.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
He's saying they're they're too old to go for at hour.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
I'm not saying they're too old. I'm just saying, damn.
Speaker 6 (09:51):
I'm just saying the way it's formated, I think works
to their advantage because it's not too much heavy lifting.
They don't have to be too planned out because it's
not too long. Like if you think about it, imagine
like we do three hours of this and people be
talking crazy about us, you know what I mean, And
(10:13):
it's like you don't understand what it's like to have
to do content for an extended amount of time until
you've done it, and to do it live on top
of that.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
So if you are.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
Doing a show that's an hour to two hours long,
whatever it would be, I would assume it would be
an hour long show or what they just have them
in the studio talking basketball while the.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Games are going on.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
I don't know, but just to say an hour straight
of doing a show where you have twelve minute twelve minute,
but like TV is a little what it's like quicker
when you're structured, So it would have been like I'm
trying to remember the clock when I was doing TV.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Well, I think the commercials are short or so, the
the brakes are shorter. I know, I know. The first
time I ever did TV after doing radio for years,
I was shocked at how fast it went.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
It's quick. TV's quick. You gotta be quick and they're
in your air. Get out of there, get out of there,
Go go to Chuck, Go to Chuck. Okay, okay, rap rap,
start the rap, start the wrap at Chuck. Go go
to Kenny, Go to Kenny. Okay, okay, we're running out
of time. We're running out of time. Albert, take it,
Take take it, Ernie, take it Ernie, like like, get
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us to the bump, Get us to the bump, like, dude,
the teaser, like, all right, there's the v O like.
It's just I don't know. I don't know if that
would that format would be doing them justice, is all
I say.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I'll take my chances. I'm not watching Wizards, Hornets. Apologies
to anybody walking around in a West unselled throwback, just
not happening for me. I'll watch Inside the NBA what
I'm just and back to the original point. Whoever gets
a hold of it, don't screw it up, just let
it be. Let it be, let them do what they do.
(12:04):
Don't get involved, don't let your ego get involved. And
say I want to put my stamp on this show. No,
the stamp has already been put on this show. It's great.
Let it go for as long as possible before those
guys get sick of it. But don't anybody touch it
and try and ruin the thing that's it.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
I feel like from the intro music to all of
it, it just all fits, man, and that just sucks because
you're not going to keep the music the same, right,
it's not going to beat it like all the way
the same. Then it just comes across as like it's
the same guys, but it ain't the same.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
I don't know. Yeah, it's gonna be different.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
It'll be different. It is Two Pros and a Cup
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(13:01):
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Speaker 2 (13:09):
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Speaker 1 (13:24):
Two pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up in
about a little over twenty minutes from now, we are
going to have another edition of Lee's Leftovers. That'll be
yours right here on FSR. Right now, though, we welcome
in the man himself a Tuesday tradition. He is Pete Prisco,
senior NFL columnist for CBS Sports. He's a CBS Sports
(13:46):
HQ analyst and you can get him on x at
Prisco CBS Pee, Good morning, how are we feeling?
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Good morning?
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Pek oh, Brady Quinn today?
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Huh?
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Now or next week or the week after?
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Going?
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Keep going?
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Going?
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Or going or going? How long.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
He's going to be on the Energizer Bunny Break?
Speaker 4 (14:08):
You know how long?
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Stop?
Speaker 4 (14:14):
But you know what, LeVar, you get a lot of
airtime that way. Then, because I know Brady, I know
Brady Brady. You know, we used to call it like
Brady would intercept. It would go okay, the host would
say something, then Brady would say something, and then it'd
come to me or whoever on the end, and then
always before it went back to the host, Brady had
intercept it and make his final points. You know what
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I mean. He never played He never played dB in
his life, but he always knew how to intercept when
he was when it comes to sit on the deck,
I'll tell you that right now. You know what I say, LeVar.
What's good for me is good for me, and so
Brady's not there, it's good for you. You get more air.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Right So, Peter, I got like listening to Jonas though all.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Pete, I got to ask you a I got to
ask you a question because I wanted you to just
further explain something that you put on social media. I
was looking at one of your tweets from Pete Frisco
at Prisco CBS on X quote, it's that time of
the year. Every player at OTA's is in the best
shape of his life. Every surgery they had has been
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a success. They are all ready to take the next step.
And even lollipop throws on air make this app droole,
it's boys of summertime, no pads, no tell I mean,
what sets you off in that direction?
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Because every single day on Twitter or X every single
day somebody is getting lauded for the way they look
or how great a shape they're in or with the
video of a throw. Look at this guy, he's throwing great,
he's throwing one on one with nobody covering anybody. I mean,
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give me a break. And so it's just he's been
that way. I remember way back in the day when
I covered the Jaguars in the nineties, this guy showed
up and he was a wide receiver and he came
in and he was making all these plays and he's
talking all this smack, and then the veterans came in.
They said, wait, do we get him in pads? And
as soon as he got him pad, he disappeared. And
so I just think that we get so enamored with
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what's going on, and the reality is you can't read
anything into this. Nobody can hit, nobody can get real physical.
We don't know what they're doing because you don't know
if and I have many a quarterback when I traveled
around my training camp tours and talking to guys and saying, look,
I don't know why they chart passes in training camp.
(16:40):
I might work on something here where I wouldn't even
do it in a game, just to see if it
might work and if it's intercepted, oh well, And yet
here we are charting plays. I saw the other day
at a Cleveland Browns camp they charted the throws of
the quarterbacks. What are we doing? It's crazy.
Speaker 6 (16:59):
Now that game like they say, look like Tarzan game
like Jane, that's that was the phrase that was used.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
You know, you know, LeVar, you know how it is.
And by the way, and by the way, having said
all that, I'm gonna be at bucks Ota practice.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Today was here you go gettin another Bucks practice.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
There's a Sanders on the Bucks team, so that'd be
interesting to see how you know he's performing. But I
guess I want to ask you, Pete in terms of
am I wrong?
Speaker 3 (17:32):
You know, the.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
Coach Dion Sanders came out, had to say what he
had to say about the situation with with Shador. Am
I wrong for saying? Can we take the name out
of the pick? You're the fourth or fourth? I want
to say, fourth pick of the fifth round? There was
a quarterback taken in the third round they brought into
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free agents. There's Deshaun wall that's like, whatever his situation is?
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Am I wrong for saying?
Speaker 6 (18:05):
If you take out and you remove the name from
that fifth round pick, what is the likelihood of a
fifth rounder surpassing a third rounder. That's first, first, and foremost,
which is the largest one, that's the biggest one. How
does a fifth rounder overtake a third rounder for one
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and then two? How does a fifth rounder overtake that
third rounder, then overtake the backup, then overtake the starter
to become the starter of the team.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
How?
Speaker 6 (18:40):
I mean, if you take the name away from it
and you look at it at its bare minimum and
exercise common sense, it doesn't make any sense. Pete, Can
you make it make sense for me? How should we
be looking at this? Because to me, I'm not going
to look at it as it's Shador Sanders. I'm going
to look at it as this was a fifth round
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draft pick. What are his his you know, possibilities in
terms of being a player on this team.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
And I can guarantee you LeVar one hundred percent that's
exactly how the Cleveland Browns are looking at it. I mean,
you made the point. Look, Dylan Gabriel is picked in
the third round ahead of him for a reason. They
clearly thought he was a better prospect and a better
player and had the attention to be a better quarterback.
Now that's not to sit here and say that mischedr
Sanders can't go in there and now play them. He can,
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and he has that opportunity. But when you look at it,
on the surface of his name wasn't Sanders and it
was something else. He'd be a fifth round pick that
everybody would sit there and say, oh, boy, I hope
he plays well enough to maybe even make the team.
That's the reality of it. And now they're talking about,
like you said, going past Dylan Gabriel, going past Picket,
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going past Joe Flacco. I mean, let's get real. And sometimes,
you know, we put so much into this stuff before
the process, and when the guy goes in the fifth round,
everybody goes, oh, he got it. Nobody they didn't draft
him because of his dad. They didn't draft him because
of this. They didn't draft them because Jilli fits around,
because that's what they thought of them. You know, I
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was on with the guy when they did draft him,
one of our analysts, and he said, oh, they got
one over on Pittsburgh. I said, they got one over
on Pittsburgh. If Pittsburgh wanted them, they could have drafted
him anytime they wanted to. Nobody wanted to pick him
until the fifth round, and that's why the fifth round
pick period.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
He is Pete Prisco joining us here on Fox Sports Radio,
CBS Sports HQ analyst. Also a columnist for CBS Sports
as well too, and you can get him on ex
at Prisco CBS. All right, so then let me ask
you this, because Russell Wilson, speaking of Pittsburgh, was the
Steelers quarterback last year. He goes on with this podcast
(20:52):
with Carmelo Anthony. He's talking about all the reasons that
he liked the Giants. You know, he's familiar with the
locker room because that's where you want a super met life.
Molik neighbors Brian Dayball and his you know, his acumen
when it comes to calling plays as an offensive mind.
Isn't though, the real reason that he's in New York
with the Giants because the Steelers didn't want him anymore.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Nor did anybody else except for the Giants. I mean,
let's be real. And by the way, the whole locker
room thing, give me a break. I won a Super
Bowl there, so I'm familiar with it. Well that's why
you went there. Come on, But he said some of
the weirdest stuff. It makes no sense to me. He
went there because they gave him an opportunity to play
and be a quarterback on their team. And maybe not
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for the long haul, but for right away he will
probably be their starting quarterback on opening day. And so
that's why you went there. Why can't you just say that?
Why can't I just be honest about it. I didn't
have a lot of opportunities elsewhere. The Steelers didn't want
me back, and I decided to go to the Giants.
And that's that's fine, that's what you did. But don't
say it's because of the locker room and you had
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elite neighbors, anything else. They wanted you. You came to
a deal, you went there. It had nothing to do
with anything else.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Pete bringing that font today, I mean.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Let's let's what did Russell Wilson do to you?
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Pete? You do nothing.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
I just I just I just always look, I look,
I'll be honest with you. Back in the day, I
always thought he was a little overrated and uh and
and you know, I kind of stood in that hill
and he had a couple of good years and people
came back at me, and then the reality is is
he has been overrated. So I just you are what
you are. You know, Look, he's a good, solid quarterback.
I never thought he was a great quarterback, and so sometimes,
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like I say, he had the top scoring defense in
the league four straight years in Seattle. You know, the
last team to do that was the fifties dynasty of
the Browns. I mean, it makes playing quarterback a lot easier.
And based on that one time, I went around asking
a lot of quarterbacks that summer, what would you rather
have the top ranks scoring defense or or two good
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wide receivers, And every single one of them said the
top rank.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
Scoring Seah, it makes your life easier, absolutely. Pete uh
speaking of top scoring, what's your take on Stephan Diggs Man? Like,
start wherever you want to start, and wherever you like,
you know, you take it how you want to take it.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Come on, come on, Tucie man.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Come on, yeah, I mean, come on, what is he doing?
First off, why would you even be around if that
is indeed what that was, And we don't know that's
what it was. It sure looked like it, But if
it was, why even be around it? I mean, they
you know, if he was not doing it, which is
you know, probably maybe he didn't. Maybe he'll test them
and find out. But why would you if that's what
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that was, why would you be in your even be
around it? It makes no sense. Why would you be
the one handing it out? I don't get it. And
I know, look, you get caught up in the in
the whole Hollywood lifestyle and whatever, and and you get
two enamored into that and maybe maybe, just maybe he
wasn't doing it. He just got caught up in and
handed it off. Who knows. But he's got to be
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better than that. And not only that, you're coming off
the thirty one and you're coming off a major injury,
I mean thirty one and coming off a major injury
wide receiver is never a good thing. It's never a
good thing when you have stuff going on as well.
So it was an ugly look for him, you know.
And should it have happened? No, But again we don't
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know what that was. We have an idea you think
it is, but we I'm you know, I've never seen
that stuff, and neither of any of you, I would imagine,
So I just you know, who knows. And by the way,
I did do research on it just to look it up.
It didn't cocaine. You know, people think it's pink cocaine.
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That's not what it is.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Well, I was going to ask your pete, like when
whatever you do to see, like what are the side effects?
Is it similar to what you know?
Speaker 4 (24:57):
I party all night and get up the next day
and do it all over again. I mean, it's like,
you know, no, I read, I read, I read, I
read what it was. You know what it is. It's
it's like some synthetic drug that has ketamine in it
and like molly, and it keeps you up all night
partying and everything else. And I just don't know. I
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don't understand why he would even be around that. It
makes no sense to me. So I mean I could
see when he gave it away. I saw how happy
is his audience was, so maybe that had something to
do with it. But I just don't understand why he
would even be around that. And by the way, I
want to hear see how the Patriots handle this, because
remember it's Mike Rabel. It's a whole new regime, and
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you know they're not going to tolerate anything. We'll see
because he wandered onto the practice field yesterday and didn't
seem like there are any repercussions, did there.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Jordan Schultz's buddy Ian Rappafort said that they're not expected
to release Stefon Diggs. You know, they don't expect for
him to get cut or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
So I don't know.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
I wouldn't, No, I wouldn't. But the only thing that
would get him cut would be if he didn't look
like Stefan Diggs. Yeah, I mean, I mean that the
reality is, you know, and look, when he was in Buffalo,
he was a pain in the ass. And I can
tell you this from being there and last summer they were,
they were thought it was additioned by subtraction. When he
was gone, I mean, he became, you know, a guy
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that wanted the ball all the time, and and Josh
Allen would you know, lock in on him and he'd
hear it from him all the time. And not that
they didn't have a good relationship, because they liked each other,
but that gets annoying after a while, and then it
bleeds over to the other receivers. I mean, go back
to Gabe Davis, by the way, Go back to Gabe
Davis in that playoff game against the Chiefs, way back
in the day, Remember how he looked like he was
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going to be an emerging star. Well, well what happened
to him? Well, you know, I think he got digs
a little bit. I think he got into that, you know,
in the fact that he was like, you know, I
thought he had arrived and he didn't. And so he
goes to Jacksonville and you know, gets heavy, he got
hurt a little bit, but one of the same player
now he's out there. And so I think sometimes you
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you don't you like having a wide receiver who wants
the ball. And by the way, they all want the ball.
I mean, you know, I go back to when I
covered Jacksonville back in the day. They had Jimmy Smith.
It was a great, great, great, great receiver who would
have been a Hall of Famer if his career and
did derailed by you know, failed tests. And Keenan McCardell.
And Keenan was great too, And I used to tell Keenan,
(27:26):
I go, you're meaning because he wanted the ball time.
Then he went to Tampa and it was Keith, Sean
and Keenan and they won the Super Bowl. And I
always used to say it was me Sean and Meanan
playing wide.
Speaker 6 (27:39):
He having Jimmy Smith together was pretty wild though.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
That was pretty much they were.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
They were fantastic. Keenan McCardell, by the way, now the
wide receiver coach who but who actually was there when
a big part of Stephan Diggs development is a wide
receiver coach of the Minnesota Viking. He's one of the
best in the business. Uh and he still would go
playing about not getting the football.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Coach, Pete, Pete, I want to ask you because this
seems like a bunch of crap to me. Kyle Pitts
has an undisclosed injury and is not working out with
the Atlanta Falcons at OTAs. I think they're keeping him
safe because they're trying to trade him.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
What say you, They are trying to trade him, and
but you know what, there there's I don't think there's
going to be as a robust to market as they
think it might be out there. And look, everybody thought
Kyle Pitts had the tools, the talent, the skills to
be a big time tight end in this league. But
he's not tough. Let's be real. I mean that that's
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the knock on him around the league. He's not tough.
And that they concerned about that, and so I want
you want to you know, he gets knocked around a
little bit, and that's that's that's the knock on him
around the league. And so yeah, I don't think he
has an injury. I think they're sitting him on the
sideline and uh and letting them. We hope somebody makes
a move to go get them. And and by the way,
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there's some guys that know Jalen Ramsey sitting there to
be traded too. I mean Miami Box, Miami bought that situation.
Look what Miami did. Miami gave him a new contract
last year, then paid him a four million dollar roster
bonus in March, and now they want to trade them.
Miami's a disaster that team. They gave out all these
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extensions last year, threw them around like nothing, and they're
a disaster. And now Jalen Ramsey is sitting there. Who's
going to trade for Jalen Ramsey in that contract unless
Miami eats a bunch of it? And will they be
willing to eat a bunch of it?
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (29:39):
Uh, Pete, did you see the question that was asked
to the receiver and Jamar Chase and Cincinnati about preseason
and the correlation of slow starts based off of this
new trend of how preseasons are being handled, Like what.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
What do you subscribe to? Like what was your takeaway
on that?
Speaker 6 (30:02):
Because to me, I've always felt like preseason isn't necessary.
Evil You gotta feel what it feels like to tackle,
You gotta feel what it feels like to be tackled.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
You got to feel what that the.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
Physicality of the game feels like in order to get
yourself ready for the regular season. Now I say that limited, right, first,
first game limited, you know, second game a little more,
third game you've you've played into the second half, and
then you know you come out. Now there's not the
(30:35):
same amount of games anymore. But what's your take on
how the preseason should be handled by these pros and
these coaches.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
You're one spot on by the way, they don't hit
in camp anymore barely. They don't tackle in camp ever.
And so if you don't play in the preseason, by
the time you play an opening week, that's the first
time you're having any contact or tackling. And that's why
if you look get the tackling in the first month
of the season, horrible. And they can do all the
(31:05):
drills they want on angles, and you know they have
dummies and electronic dummies they work on angles. Give me
a break. It's not the same. And you played the
game of the our, you know that you got to hit,
got to be and I think you know they've gotten
away from that. The fear of injury is become magnified
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to the point where they're not getting the good fundamentals
in and I think it's turtned the gate. I mean,
when was the last time you've gone to a practice
and training camp and watched nine on seven the middle drill.
They'll do it anymore. They don't. Nobody lined up on
the goal line and hits nobody. It's it's minimal hitting,
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it's pass and tapping. But I'm talking about a full
on hitting drill.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
They'll do it.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
And then so then they wonder what's wrong with the
offensive line. Well, offensive lines have to work together. And
again go back to the dummies. You can work a
double team to the next level when you're working against
the dummy or your fellow offensive linemen who's standing there
like a load of a lump of you know, large
standing there, and you can get to them easily instead
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of a two hundred and eighty pounds defensive tackle who
can move. Let's see how you handle that when you're
trying to get off him. Hope, you're you know you're
the tackle. You get off to him, get to the
next level and you think your guard has them handle,
but he's quick enough. The Knights through and make the play.
You don't know how you're going to handle that, And
so I think that all the fundamentals of football have
gone out the window because we're so protective of the
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players now. Sometimes you need to just go hit, you
need to just go tackle, and if you're not going
to do it in the preseason, you have to find
a way to do it somewhere, because I think when
you get the Week one and you have it tackled
and you haven't been hit, and you haven't been jammed
at the line of scrimmage and thrown to the ground,
I think that's where we're losing a lot of the
good football early in the season.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Pete, before I let you go, just wanted to get
a prediction and from you. Obviously, the your Florida Panthers
are taking on my Edmonton Oilers, and I know Lebar
and I are big Oilers fans, so I just wanted
to know how you thought that you are.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
LaVar and I both know you're not.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Var Var is not LaVar is not an Edmonton oiler
sa he couldn't name one player on it.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Penn and Caps, give me, give me, give.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Me, give me an Edmonton oiler player, LeVar, I told
you I'm Pins and Caps, I'm Penguins, okay, but.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
You still be able to give me an You still
should be able to give me an Edmundton oiler player.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
No, I shouldn't. I don't, I don't watch.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
He's the best player in the world.
Speaker 6 (33:40):
Connor McDavis, I'm today years old when I knew that
today years old he's the best player.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Work and and Jody, you're not you're not You're not
a Edmonton oiler.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
No.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Yeah, I'm just trying to get you.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Get you okay. By the way, bitting fire.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Off, how long's it been since Canada won a Stanley Cup?
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Was it ninety three? Was it the Canadians last time.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
It's been a long, long, long long time. And you
know what, it's gonna be another long long year because
Florida is a better tune. They're tougher. They're more physical,
and we saw last year what happens when you're physical
that the Edmonton Oilers team they go hide and they're
gonna beat him up. No, Zach Heyman is big for
Edmonton and the depth of the Florida Panthers is way
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too much and they beat him up. They'll beat him
in six six games, not gonna go seven this time
around to beat him in six.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Look at that hockey analysis, Pete Prisco.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
There, I will.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
Talk about Skinner. The goalie has been playing well. I'm
a little he's played well for for Edmonton, but you
know what, before he started playing really well, he was
going really bad. So I think he's gonna have a
chance to go really rotten. And Lebroston never goes.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Are you going to get to a You're gonna get
to a game in Sunrise? There, Pete, you get a
ticket to maybe.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Because I'm going out to training camp, I mean the
mini camp next week, so I don't know maybe, but
I will definitely be glued to every single one of them.
I love it. I can't wait.
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Speaker 2 (36:16):
These might smell.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
A little fun, that sounds incredible.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
But they're still good. Time to find out what's lap?
It's Lee's lap jobs?
Speaker 1 (36:25):
All right to laugh? What do we got, oh man? Tons?
Speaker 3 (36:27):
To get to? How about this little update?
Speaker 7 (36:30):
If you'd been following us a while ago, Big Bear
had its first eagles hatched.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
A while ago.
Speaker 7 (36:35):
Well they've now gone to gotten to fly. Sunny flew
away yesterday. Gizmo's still in the nest waiting to fly.
So of the two eagles they're in Big Bear, one
has flown the coop.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
People got to get a life, man, Just get a life.
Speaker 7 (36:49):
I have doves on my patio. I got they come
every year.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Why why do we need to watch this?
Speaker 4 (36:55):
Like?
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Why is there a still camera on bald eagles?
Speaker 7 (36:59):
That's America's bird right there?
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Oh okay, you know?
Speaker 7 (37:04):
Did you know Ben Franklin didn't want the bald eagle
to be America's bird? He wanted the turkey? Oh yeah, yeah,
he hated bald eagles could considered him dirty scavengers.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Why are they dirty scavengers?
Speaker 7 (37:18):
Because they are they scavenge.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
They're dirty scavengers.
Speaker 6 (37:22):
Ben Franklin thought they go grab up fish out of
the water, like they don't necessarily always scavenge.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
They're birds of prey. That's what they're called. Birds of prey.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Yeah, raptors, Jelly. It feels like a reckless accusation you're
making there. Do you have any you want to substantiate
those clams or.
Speaker 7 (37:42):
I'm just telling you what Ben Franklin said. I didn't
say it was my opinion.
Speaker 6 (37:46):
I mean, I'm gonna stay away from this one. I'm
gonna stare clear away from going and Franklin because he's
not here to defend himself.
Speaker 7 (37:56):
He went he wanted the turkey.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
I mean horrible.
Speaker 6 (38:01):
Could you imagine the turkey being our ours?
Speaker 4 (38:04):
Wow?
Speaker 7 (38:04):
I mean, hey, Thanksgiving, it's basically our maskot right there.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
And he's connected to Thanksgiving? All right? What else?
Speaker 1 (38:13):
I just I think it's I think we've seen enough.
We've seen enough of the still camera shots. I don't
care if these birds fly. I'll be honest with you, like,
you know, if one of those birds just decides, hey man,
I'm out of here. Yeah, you know, like I didn't
even fly yet, but I'm jumping and listen, you know,
we're here in California, taxes are too high. I'm gone
(38:35):
and next thing you.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Know, you know, he runs his nest is taking of
my neck.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
Well he want us to do here? Flights a ripoff?
Like I mean if I if I leave here, you
know they're making me wear COVID masks like I used.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
The hole.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Thing's a disaster. And for some reason we got a
still camera to watch some birds hang out on a tree.
There's got to be some isn't there like an accident
that they could focus on, Like, isn't there's some sort
of like road closure that always pops up last minute
that they can help people out with, as opposed to
putting a steel camera on a couple of birds. Cares
(39:09):
about it.
Speaker 7 (39:09):
You gotta have a fluff piece, man, you gotta have
a feel good piece on your local news.
Speaker 6 (39:13):
It's always there's all kinds of that are always being
bored born or something to that. Rabbits come on, Like
that's just so much work to go up and try
to find the eagles nests and then try to keep
a cam on it.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Like that's wild.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Like leaders of realize he's sitting here talking about a
feel good story that he called a Scavenger a couple
of minutes.
Speaker 7 (39:34):
Ago, like dirty Sketch.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
You basically call like they're the homeless person of birds.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 7 (39:43):
I have I have what I called doves on my patio,
but they could be dirty pigeons.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
I don't know. I always called it doubly dirty pigeon.
And you probably I'll be out there with.
Speaker 7 (39:56):
I'm gonna feed my doves.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
What are you guys drinking?
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Ha
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