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June 10, 2025 40 mins

Kirk Cousins’ options are dwindling heading into minicamp. NFL Insider Pete Prisco talks about the biggest storylines heading into minicamp. Plus, roach motel on Lee’s Leftovers.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
What is this garbage? Let me you know what? Did
Brady reach out to Ricky or veto and get this done?

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Who put this in the system? This song sucks? I
asked for poppit.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
Who even listens to MGC this?

Speaker 5 (00:58):
I've never heard this song ever, but I'm just saying,
who did it? I thought this was you?

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Do?

Speaker 3 (01:04):
I look like that would make a joke of it.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
Where did this come from? I don't know? This needs
to be I think Brady reached out to the powers
of be to get this done. Do you really think so?
I think so now that I think about it.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
He sent me a text saying that he had something
for the show either today or tomorrow, and now it
makes sense.

Speaker 6 (01:32):
Yeah, that's a Bruce that would totally be a Brady song.
That is, you can't and you can't run the show
when you're not here, Like you can't do a little
s like that when you're not here.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
I muted him.

Speaker 5 (01:46):
I don't, I don't understand that for I'm a tap it.
I'm a tab it perplexed, like you're still making just
enjoy your vacation. Who should be making those decisions? You know,
the executive producer should be me?

Speaker 7 (02:02):
I I mean the funny here's the funny thing about it, though,
this man is the producer of our show, and he's
saying what he asked for and did Poppa just playing.

Speaker 5 (02:14):
Okay, Animal House Dog Animal House. I'm I'm like so
caught off guard right now, Like he changed my song
when it was just me and him and you were out,

(02:36):
when we when you were out, he picked the songs
for each.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
Hour when you were out.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
Isn't this your responsibility? You don't have any stroke on
the show. You're the executive producer.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
Lee, Damn, Wow, they need more than that.

Speaker 8 (02:53):
I okay, Well I asked for poppet, I demanded Poppa.
I did not get popping I don't press the buttons here,
I only make demands.

Speaker 5 (03:05):
You sound worse by the words just stop right there.
You sound worse by the word you're the producer of
the show. You said executive producer. Like there's another producer
that's on the show. It's like it's us.

Speaker 4 (03:24):
Well, the rain is the technical producer.

Speaker 5 (03:26):
Technically, yeah, okay, like I'm saying, we got one producer
of the show. We got one person that handles our board.
It's not like you could say executive producer because there's
two or three other people running around printing out stories,
doing research. Oh here's some interesting news that you'all might
want to We don't have that.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
What do you mean? What about the security? What do
you mean? He barely be around. He barely be around.
That is true. That's why I carry my burner.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
By the way, I walked out there the other morning
and that guy was like on his phone playing a
video game in his car, not even in the building.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
So well, listen that.

Speaker 5 (04:12):
I'm just saying. It's the hour that we worked though. Man,
I don't know, it's it's cool. That's crazy. That was
an unpleasant surprise. That song that is crazy awful. I
thought I was waiting for Poppet.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
I was expecting poppit.

Speaker 5 (04:25):
Yeah, I just don't understand, like like I'm in twilight
zone sometimes.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
What a bummer. Uh.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
It is two Pros and a cup of Joe here
off Sports Radio.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
That's your job to know what's in the system, LaVar
Arrington shot of the air.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
I got news for you. When I'm not here on
the show. I couldn't care less what song you guys
play in my business?

Speaker 4 (04:50):
I'm out, So you got when do you do that?
Fair point? You gotta have a life to uh particip
is that what it is? That? What that is? I
guess I don't have a life then, and I certainly
I feel like I do. I don't.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
I don't, I really don't. All right, Oh sorry, y'all,

(05:35):
it's a joke.

Speaker 9 (05:37):
You know.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
I've had a really tough life.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Yeah, you're gonna have a tough wake up call to
Joe big ass.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
Oh my god? All right, Uh enough enough, grow up, everybody.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
It is two pros and a cup of Joe here
on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you.

Speaker 6 (05:58):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
We discussed earlier in the show the details that have
come out about Aaron Rodgers contract. Basically, to sum it up,
they're going to have to do a lot of things
that people don't expect them to do in order for
him to reach certain benchmarks of the deal. Right, So,
whether it's when a playoff game, go to the Super Bowl,

(06:19):
win MVP, like, there's a lot that is going to
have to happen for Aaron Rodgers to reach the all
those numbers and all those millions that are out there.
That's why the most important part of it was the
ten million dollar the guarantee of the ten million dollars
for Aaron Rodgers. Now that he's in Pittsburgh with the Steelers,
one of the other quarterbacks that's sort of out there

(06:41):
just kind of hanging out doing his thing, just waiting
for his turn is Kirk Cousins. And we touched on
this a little bit yesterday, but we did get confirmation
that the expectation for Kirk Cousins is that he is
going to be at Falcons mandatory mini camp this week.
And again it goes to the point of what options

(07:02):
does he have other than you better hope somebody gets injured.

Speaker 4 (07:08):
Hope.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
I use that word loosely, but that's really if your
Kirk Cousins, the only chance you're going to get to
get a real opportunity to start again, because the Falcons
don't want to move off of him, they'd rather have
him there for insurance. And so if your Kirk Cousins,
you're looking around the league going all right, I guess
I just got to play nice, show up, report to
mini camp, and then look around and see if something

(07:30):
opens up and I get traded. If not, he's going
to be an Atlanta Falcon and he's going to make
whatever he makes this year.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
To back up Michael Pennix Junior.

Speaker 5 (07:36):
I feel like you're missing a very very small yet
a very very big detail on that explanation. What's that
he played himself out of his position? Dam I mean
that's a small detail, but a major one to be
at it or or you know, with the facts, you

(08:00):
can't omit that right, it's got to be there. He's
banged up now, he got the yips. Bruh, he got
the yips. It was bad. We were there. He played
his way. He played himself out of the position, whether
that was Michael Pennix behind him or another one, he

(08:21):
played himself out of the position.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
He also when he because there was the achilles that
he was working back from, and then he dealt with
some shoulder issue that apparently he suffered, and they weren't
totally forthright about.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
Him being injured.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
He wasn't listed on the injury report, and you go
from that game moving forward, he just wasn't the same player.

Speaker 5 (08:43):
So it does feel like, let me ask you this,
a little banged up. If Kirk Cousins finishes playing the
season on a higher note than what he did. Say,
he didn't play himself out of his star learning position.
It's just they went in a different direction because the

(09:03):
team wasn't maybe winning and they needed which they did
say they needed a spark, and they put Michael Pennix
in to say they could get a spark, but just
for the sake of conversation, if it wasn't based upon
him getting the yips, him playing well, but they just
went in a different direction. Do you think that he's

(09:24):
still on this roster? No, that's my point. That's the point.
If your answer is no, he's somewhere else. If he
had played better before he lost his job, then then
now the conversation becomes that's like buyer's remorse. Really, you

(09:44):
didn't need to bring in Kirk Cousins if you were
planning on drafting a QB.

Speaker 4 (09:49):
If a QB was there.

Speaker 5 (09:50):
Now I get that you felt like, Okay, maybe you're
going to draft the guy, but we're going to bring
in Kirk Cousins because we could get one two years
out of them before we bring in the guy that
we're going to drive. Which that's clearly how it played out.
But that's a big contract. Like, it's not like they

(10:12):
gave him an Aaron Rodgers contract, which about the way,
I'm not a white dude hater, Like, I'm not hating
on Aaron Rodgers talking about somebody on your one of
your little degenerate followers is talking about why do I
hate white white quarterbacks?

Speaker 4 (10:27):
Oh it's a great point. I never thought of that.
Why do I hate white people? I don't hate white people? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Can we can we isolate this? Please, LeVar? Why do
you hate white people?

Speaker 4 (10:34):
Yeah? Right, that would be that would be a great
question if it were true.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
You had somebody just turning on the radio, the first
thing they hear is LaVar, why do you hate white people?

Speaker 5 (10:42):
I want to penn state Jack, go check out where
that's at. Hit the outskirtch I've been there before.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
Leave you me.

Speaker 5 (10:54):
It's white college, white out DA. Anyway, I think the
point is is that Kirk Cousins is not there. If
he played well, somebody's coming for him. If he had
played well, he is still on this team because Minaco,
excuse me, Atlanta is stuck with him, and Kirk Cousins

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is stuck with Atlanta. I wonder how, I wonder what
the asking price that the Atlanta Falcon set because if
somebody had come in, if somebody came in right now
and knocked their socks off with an opportunity or to
have to knock their socks off, well, at least get
them to take them off. At least take the socks off.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
Yeah, right, Like for Kirk Cousins, where you're at right now,
just take the socks off, you know, like take them off.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
I think they got to knock him off of me though.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
If by the way, if you're a Kurt and so
they pick up the ten million dollars, he goes to
you know, the Falcons front office, and you know, he
asked him, can I get sent elsewhere? I'd like apportunity
to play. I still feel like I can play. I'm
healthy again coming off whatever I was dealing with at
the end of last year, and the Falcons say no,
and they're just going to ride with him as their backup,
which I can get it from their standpoint, it makes sense.

Speaker 4 (12:12):
Yeah, not going to just walk away. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
And also it makes like Michael Pennix has dealt with
injuries in his time, like he done multiple jers in college.
So they're looking at it like we need an insurance policy,
Kirk Cousins, and that ten million dollar option is our
insurance policy.

Speaker 10 (12:30):
He's got to pay him, so he's got to be
your insurance option, right, Like it would have made sense
before the Browns went and signed Joe Flacco Kirk Cousins,
and you know, he played for Kevin Stefanski when he
was the OC in Minnesota.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
That would have made some sense.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
But I think if you're Kirk Cousins, it just goes
back to the point of you need a team that
is really desperate, that's got nothing else out there that
they look at to bring you in. And at that
point we're talking injury, We're talking some sort of disastrous
like what if JJ McCarthy in Minnesota struggles or there's

(13:08):
an injury there.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
I could see. I could see.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Kevin O'Connell looking at it and going, hey, man, for
the right price, why not bring Kirk back?

Speaker 5 (13:18):
This is what I know, and I'm gonna go back
to my original point and I'm gonna stand on it.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
I'm gonna stay true to it.

Speaker 5 (13:26):
Kirk Cousins played himself out of his starting position. So
if you're going to management and you're saying, let me go,
let me have an opportunity to go play somewhere else,
you have every right to try to advocate for yourself
and put yourself in a position where you could go

(13:48):
find what you perceive to be a better opportunity for you.
No beef, there, no qualms. But when you look at
the scenario and how it played out, you want us
to just let you go with all this money that
we just paid you, and that's not going to happen.
Why would we have paid you know what? Give the

(14:10):
bonus back if you want to go. I'll say this,
and I know this to be very true. I gave
a bonus back to get out of Washington. People think
I got fired, like you know, they say you got
they sent him away, They got which they would have
been within their rights to. I mean, it wasn't like
I did much for them at the end, but I

(14:31):
gave a bonus back. They said, I said. I said
the same thing. Kirk Cousins said, give me an opportunity
to go play fourteen that can compete for you know, compete.
How much was the bonus? It was like two point
five damn And for my freedom right for me to
not work for Dan Snyder, I paid a bonus. I

(14:52):
took the bonus out of my out of my account
and gave it back so that I could be least
to test free agency. Because what was going to happen
was they were gonna hold me. They were gonna hold
me on on the roster. They were gonna hold me
on the team until my roster bonus was due. This

(15:15):
is what I suspected, This is what I felt was
gonna happen. They were gonna hold me all the way
up until the last, the last cuts, and they were
gonna cut me so that they didn't have to give
me the roster bonus that I was going to be old.
And then I'm cut and it's like everybody's got their
rosters set, so you've put me in a position where

(15:36):
not only did you not pay me my roster bonus
and you cut me, but everybody else has used free
agency in the off season to get the players that
you know, they wanted to fill their their roster limited
your options. They was they were gonna limit me, and
I was like, listen, I don't f with you. You don't

(15:58):
f with me. I don't like Gibbs, I don't like Williams,
I don't like Lindsey, I don't like Black. I don't
like any of them, and they don't like me. We
don't like each other. So why are we playing this game?
Just release me, just let me go. And they're like, yeah, nah,
can't release you. I was like, well, what does it

(16:18):
take to release me? And that was so if I'm
Kirk Cousins, Kirk Cousins should have paid for his ability
to leave. I bet you Minnesota would have did it.
I bet you Minnesota would have did it if he'd
have been like, hey, look, i'll give you. What does
it take to get get it? You know, cat friendly

(16:39):
or for you guys to be okay with not eating it.
I'll do that. But you got to bet on yourself
if you're not a dude, that's betting on yourself. If
it's like, yeah, I don't know, then keep your money.
I was willing to bet on myself, and that was
why I gave the money back. I got injured Blue
my Achilles tended to make the whole season. Retired after that.

(17:01):
I was done playing after that, but I was one
season away from a super Bowl with the team that
I chose, that chose me, So it's like kind of
like bittersweet. I made the right decision. I just didn't
stay healthy. My love of the game wasn't there, so
I stopped playing. But the decision was a good decision.
It's just that my body gave out on me, and
it is what it is. But if I'm Kirk Cousins,

(17:24):
you didn't give Atlanta enough capital with the way you
played before you lost your job for them to be
able to deal you and everybody be made whole out
of the scenario. So in that situation, you got to
take a little bit of self accountability for how you
played a part in what took place. And while you're
in this situation, you're in and if you want to

(17:46):
go somewhere else and have first off, try to compete
for the starting job where you're at. Like you said,
try to compete for the start job where you're at
right now personally. But then secondly, if you don't feel
like you're going to get that fair opportunity to do that,
and you want to go somewhere else, you try your
best to get out. If if you don't have enough
capital to be able to get out, enough enough value
for somebody to want to come and get you, then

(18:07):
you got to keep weighing out, what the solution, what
what the possible?

Speaker 4 (18:12):
You know, the solution to the problem. Hang out? Yeah,
but you know hang out isn't you know?

Speaker 1 (18:17):
This is gonna be the first year in a long
time other than you know, the injury year where he's
not gonna have to, you know, grind through each week,
make make he's making his cash. Hang out, be the backup,
be the veteran. You're in Atlanta, your Roycee's family's from there.
It's God, there's worse situations in the world. Not bad man,
ten million dollars, Just hang out? Why not write as

(18:40):
long as you can and then when you retire, he's
gonna walk away with like three hundred million dollars in
the bank. Nothing wrong with that?

Speaker 4 (18:47):
Damn?

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
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Speaker 2 (19:02):
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Speaker 4 (19:16):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, why are you like that? Jonas Knox with.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
You here on About twenty minutes from now, we are
going to have another edition of Lee's Leftovers. If there's
anything leftover of Lee, that'll be yours here on FSR
right now. Though you hear the music, you're the smooth
operator tones and you know that that means one thing.
It is a Tuesday tradition. As we welcome in the

(19:44):
great Pete Prisco, senior NFL columnist for CBS Sports, CBS
Sports HQ Analyst. Get him on x at Prisco, CBS
he's also a Florida Panther. Blowhard Pete, good morning and
congratulations on the two to one series lead.

Speaker 9 (20:00):
And series over by the way.

Speaker 4 (20:02):
Oh wow, you're calling it calling it?

Speaker 9 (20:06):
I mean, look, one team can do so many things
and has a goalie. The other team can do so
many things and does not have a goalie.

Speaker 4 (20:14):
Wow.

Speaker 9 (20:15):
And I said before that game, I said, letting up
that goal in overtime was going to be a problem
for Skinner and it was and they ended up yanking
him and now they have goalie decision to make, so
they're deeper Ininton. That's the best player in the world.
Conor McDavid, LaVar, Conor McDavid. There you go, and Florida

(20:35):
is just too deep for him. And then Edmonton tried
to get tough last night and they kind of backfired
on him as well. So yeah, I'm gonna call it
series over.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
Wow. All right, So I guess the pursuit of Aaron
Rodgers is also over. He is now the starting quarterback
of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Actually watched the game last night. Yeah,
come on, Pete, like you doubting?

Speaker 9 (20:55):
Did you enjoy it? LeVar?

Speaker 4 (20:57):
You know when I watch it, I watch it my
days in d C.

Speaker 5 (21:02):
I really, you know, did a lot of coverage on
our radio show, so I got to learn, you know,
learn it instead of just being a you know, fan
from Pittsburgh. You know, I like Lemieux and Yager and
all those guys, but I didn't know the game. Then
once I started doing radio in d C, you know,
you're required to know what it is you're talking about.

(21:22):
So I started learning about the creases and protecting the
ice and icing and all that stuff. And goalie play
is the key. You got to have a dope ass goalie,
you know, and then you got to have some guys
that are fearless and aren't afraid to get into the
crease and do what they need to do.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
And yeah, I mean I like it. I like it.

Speaker 5 (21:42):
I don't watch it very very often ever since I've
come out here, but yeah, I mean I watched last night.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
It definitely wasn't enjoyable.

Speaker 9 (21:51):
You know, I was late to the sport too, I'll
be honest with you. When I was younger, I was
like a kid and I didn't love hockey, and I
watched it a little bit, but I love it, and
then I had to cover it in Denver when I
first started out doing some hockey out there, and then
you get used to it, and then you start learning
the game. Like you said, you understand it more and
it becomes that much better. Now that I actually have

(22:12):
a team, I really like. I think it's great. It's fantastic.
In fact, I've enjoyed not just because of the Panthers
being in it, but up until last night, that series
was better than the NBA series. And I've always been
a big NBA guy, Man.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
Pete, I do.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
I am curious now that the details are out on
the Aaron Rodgers contract, what does that tell you about
the decision for Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers to
do unite for this upcoming year.

Speaker 9 (22:38):
Well, it's going to happen.

Speaker 11 (22:39):
It was always going to happen, and it's just a
matter of when it happened, because there was no conceivable
way the Pittsburgh Steelers were playing with Mason Rudolph. They
just weren't. And they knew ultimately that Rogers would make
the decision to come back and play, and they let
him go on.

Speaker 9 (22:52):
His timetable and now he has to get in there
and learn the offense. But he's been doing that. He's
a smart guy, Hild and they'll figure it out, and
all of a sudden, now they have a legitimate quarterback.
So it made sense from both sides. Look, he played
well down the stretch last year once he got passed
his injury, and remember all that talk about a couple of.

Speaker 11 (23:09):
Years ago he was going to come back at December.

Speaker 9 (23:10):
Sure he was, because he clearly wasn't the same guy
early last season. But once he got back in there
at the end of the year, I mean he was.
I mean, once he got back healthy again at the
end of the year, he was playing good football. He
through what twenty nine touchdown pass That's more than a
lot of guys ty Josh Allen for touchdown passes. So
I think he's going to go in there and definitely
upgrade the offense from what they had. Now, are they

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good enough to get to the playoffs? That's the question
even with the Rogers, because the Steelers traditionally been a
run heavy team that could run the ball and do
good things in that area and stop the run and
turn their pass rushers lose. Well, they weren't the same
team last year in any of those facets, So I'm
concerned from that standpoint, but they are significantly upgraded at
quarterback with Rogers.

Speaker 5 (23:51):
Can you help me with this one, Pete, I'm I'm
of the mindset that you get what you pay for,
you know, whether in even and if it's a person
that would be deserving of more, if they give you
less based off of what their compensation is, then you
know you have to deal with that based upon what
you value that talent at I look at this contract.

(24:13):
It doesn't scream to me we have our franchise guy
for a year to take us to a super Bowl.
It doesn't not to me.

Speaker 9 (24:23):
It's a one year deal. That's what the NFL. I mean,
that's basically what the deal has got some intentives if
he takes the far away will get to you know, No,
it looks I think he.

Speaker 5 (24:32):
Well, you do value it, You you do value it.
You look at it like that's a it's a good contract.

Speaker 9 (24:38):
For a one year deal on a forty two year
old guy. Yeah, it's a decent contract for a guy
doesn't need the money. I have no problem with the contract.

Speaker 5 (24:45):
But see that's my problem for the guy that doesn't
need the money. Like, so you're we're going to put
it on that. You know what I mean? Like, what
are we? What are if? If I want to get
the best player for one year's time, I'm only give
him market value of the top quarterbacks. I'm going to
give him a one year contract based off of what

(25:07):
the market value is of guys of his caliber.

Speaker 9 (25:11):
Got a one year deal for twenty one million, that's all.

Speaker 4 (25:14):
That's not a good Copers, that's not a good one.

Speaker 9 (25:16):
But they're on the same ballpark, those one year deals,
they're usually the same. It's it's it's the question becomes
what if he plays well and wants to continue playing,
then all of a sudden you have to figure that out.

Speaker 5 (25:28):
That's a complex that's a complex situation to find yourself in.

Speaker 9 (25:32):
For certain got well, yeah, but but they haven't fixed
the quarterback position, LeVar, since the quarterback position year, are
going to be playing this pluck one for a year game?
I mean that that's the way it is.

Speaker 4 (25:42):
Doesn't it make sense to you to do it two
years in a row?

Speaker 9 (25:47):
Doesn't make sense? No, But but they they missed on picket.
They did a picket. They they did do picket.

Speaker 4 (25:53):
They did do picket.

Speaker 9 (25:55):
So until you fix it, you got to keep trying
to get guys like this to play. Is it the
this is this solution you want? Absolutely not. But in
this scenario, would you rather have Mason Rudolf? Would you
rather have Aaron Rodgers? I mean it's a simple it's
a simple answer to an easy It's an easy answer
to a simple question. It's Rogers time ten.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
Where do you put the draft the draft pick in
all of this? Because to me, I.

Speaker 5 (26:18):
Feel like, like you said, you are searching for that
guy that can be your franchise guy who wants to
keep doing rent a QB.

Speaker 4 (26:26):
You know, this is two years of rental QB? Is
this is this just buying time to get you know,
the kid out of Ohio State? Will Howard get him
ready to go?

Speaker 5 (26:35):
Or is there another play here that you think future
future wise, they're waiting to try to find the guy
that's going to be the guy? Like what's the reasoning behind?
Like I understand getting Aaron Rodgers up, he upgrades you
from what you have, But is getting Justin Fields and

(26:55):
Russell Wilson last year? You know, is that the solution
to getting to this year where it's like, okay, the
solution is bringing in another guy that is on a
one year deal. You know, show me type deal. What
is the what like? If this is how you're doing things,
what is the ultimate goal for this team?

Speaker 9 (27:13):
They got to draft the quarterback eventually and get him
early in the draft. Look, Howard is an interesting guy,
but you can't expect him where he was drafted to
come in and become the long term answer. You hope
maybe you hit it, but you don't know, and I
don't think you'll know this year. But here's what you
got to do. If you go in and Rogers stinks
and that draft pick is bad, then you got to
find to go into a deep quarterback class next year

(27:34):
and get one. There's a ton of them next year's draft,
by the way, and so a one year deal makes sense.
They missed on picket, They tried it, they didn't hit it.
Now now you go back. You gotta scramble. You get fields,
you get Wilson, like you said, you get Rogers. You're scrambling.
It's scramble mode. Well, if this doesn't work, you go
back in next year. There might be nine guys or

(27:54):
eight guys that you can pick a quarterback out of
next year. If arch Manny comes out, nuss Meyer, Ellers, Leavitt.
I mean the kid that transferred from cal to Indiana.
I mean, there's a ton of guys in next year's
draft back. Maybe he has a resurgence, so they're six
right off the bat, you know, and I haven't even
thought about the rest of them. There's a lot of them.

(28:15):
So maybe you get your quarterback next year. You play
with Rogers this year and get your quarterback next year. Look,
I know people sit there and say, well, keep keep
saying next year, next year, next year. Well what are
you supposed to do? Play with Mason Rudolph.

Speaker 4 (28:26):
No Pete Prisco joining us here on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Pete, I want to ask you about this in regard
to the Aaron Rodgers conversation, because one of the stories
that was out there, I think was Adam Schefter reported
this that Rogers was the third option for Pittsburgh, that
they wanted Matthew Stafford, they wanted to bring back Justin Fields,
so they then turned their sights to Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
So listen, Matt Stafford.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
I don't know that anybody who truly believed he was
going to leave the Rams, but the Justin Fields conversation
is kind of interesting because why would Justin Fields unless
the money was significantly different and you know something more
than I do, Why would Justin Fields choose the Jets
as opposed to staying in Pittsburgh and wanting to do

(29:14):
it over again without having to worry about potentially getting
bench for Russell Wilson for a year two? Like, why
the Jets over the Steelers unless the money was just
that much of a difference.

Speaker 9 (29:25):
The money was probably better, but I think it was
that he got his contract that the Jets was a
little bit better. And by the way, what did they
do him well last year? Did they treat him well
last year?

Speaker 4 (29:35):
No? Yeah, okay, not that his standard I would assume,
of course not.

Speaker 9 (29:39):
Of course not. And so I think it made sense
for him to go to a place that wanted him
and wanted him to be the starting quarterback. So I
think they did their he did the right thing. And
if Aaron Rodgers is his third option, it's because he's
forty two years old. I mean, Aaron Rodgers can play
for Aaron Rodgers at the end of last year was
better than Justin Fields. I don't care what anybody said,
but the question is just can he continue to do it,

(30:02):
and that's why I think he's the third option.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
Pete.

Speaker 5 (30:06):
I was having a conversation with Jonas earlier about the
amount of coverage on Shador Sanders, and I think it's
like a repayment of how maybe embarrassed or shamed people
felt in the media going with the overwhelming narrative of

(30:28):
Shador Sanders in the draft. He basically drove this year's
draft and has continued to drive NFL headlines even now
as a fifth round fourth string quarterback. I feel like
the Cleveland Browns have placed themselves in a very, very
compromising position based upon the influence, based upon the fame

(30:51):
and notoriety, and maybe the possibilities that exist with Shador Sanders. Now,
I'll say this, I feel like where we're at now, Pete.
Maybe the clarity now for me is that the teams
that passed up on him, they didn't pass up on
him because of his talent. They passed up on him
because of finding themselves possibly in the same circumstances that

(31:15):
the Cleveland Browns find themselves in right now.

Speaker 9 (31:19):
Yeah, I don't buy that. I don't buy that if
he could play, they don't care what you do know,
he would have if they would have thought he was
better than a fifth round pick, they would have taken
him in the fourth round or the third round, or
some other team would have taken him. I don't buy that.
And you know, we get so caught up in all
that stuff. Lebar Well, he didn't interview. Well, he was
a pain in the ass. He was, you know, stand

(31:40):
office in the interviews. His dad's a problem. His dad's
going to be an influence, and he's got all the
other stuff going. If he could play, he could play.
It doesn't matter. None of that matters. And the reality
is the NFL didn't think he could play. They didn't
think he was a quality starting quarterback in the National
Football League. Well, now he has an opportunity to go
prove them all wrong. We've seen guys prove them all wrong.
The greatest of all time, improved everybody wrong. There's a

(32:01):
six round pick. Well, here's the other part of it.
Everything he does like he'll throw a pass in the
training camp and it gets somebody sends it out. One
of those aggregator sends it out and says, oh, look
how Grady looks. He's still running fourteen. There's a reason
he's not getting the snaps until the fourth team, and
so he's got to be extraordinary to go win that job.

(32:21):
If he if he's what he thinks he is and
what his dad thinks he is, then go win the
damn job. If not, and you don't play very well,
you're probably going to be on the practice squad. And
so I think that's where it is for him. Go
either show up, show off and become the guy for
the future, or you're probably going to be the fourth guy,
and the fourth guy usually doesn't make the team. There.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
He is the great p Prisco with us here on
Fox Sports Radio. Get him on X by the way,
if you want some of that smoke. If you are
an Edmonton Euler fan and you want to try and
see fight, man, I'm telling you you.

Speaker 9 (32:57):
Guys didn't stay up for the end of the game.
But there was a bunch of them last week. Yeah
they're rowing down guys, Oh yeah, on.

Speaker 4 (33:04):
The ice getting pounded on.

Speaker 9 (33:06):
But they haven't won a Cup in Canada since what
nineteen ninety yea.

Speaker 4 (33:11):
It is my freshman year of high school.

Speaker 9 (33:16):
That's how long I know that was.

Speaker 4 (33:17):
I was thirty three back then.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
You look great, though, Pete, I know get him on
X again at Prisco CBS. Pete always appreciate it. We'll
do it again next week.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
You guy.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
There is Pete Prisco, senior NFL columnist for CBS Sports,
CBS Sports HQ analyst, always a.

Speaker 4 (33:42):
Beaming light of optimism here on the show.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
Whatever he appears coming up next here that we are
going to close up shop on this Tuesday morning with
another edition of Lee's Leftovers here on FSR.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington and
Jonas Knox weekdays.

Speaker 4 (34:00):
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Speaker 1 (34:04):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here. We'll be back
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up tomorrow. Before we get to another edition of Lee's

(34:26):
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Speaker 2 (34:49):
These might smell a little.

Speaker 4 (34:50):
Fun case, how does that sounds incredible?

Speaker 2 (34:52):
But they're still good. Time to find out what's left?
It's Lee's left?

Speaker 4 (34:58):
Jos all right to laugh? What do we got?

Speaker 8 (35:00):
Well, guys, I have a problem, and I don't know
where it stems from. It might be stemming from right
here in the studio. I found a roach at the
casa yesterday, and I'm in a big trouble.

Speaker 5 (35:13):
For it stem like it traveled with you.

Speaker 4 (35:17):
Maybe it followed you home.

Speaker 8 (35:18):
It could be you know, I always relative, it's where
we usually find him.

Speaker 4 (35:24):
So I second, So a roach followed you home? I
don't know, I don't know. I'm just, you know, bringing
the roach home. Oh yeah, of course it's my fault.
Of course your fault. Who accused you of that? Oh?
You know? The roommate.

Speaker 8 (35:42):
Even though the roommate is the one that leaves all
the food out every night, I'm the one who cleans.
I mean, maybe I don't clean well enough, but you know.

Speaker 4 (35:53):
The house that I mean.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
You know, if the roach was by the pool yesterday,
I could understand, and I would it be your fault.

Speaker 8 (35:57):
If, yeah, be the roach we're hanging out by the
pool yesterday, we.

Speaker 4 (36:01):
Act like you were yelled at or something.

Speaker 5 (36:03):
I were you, I would go purchase more roaches and.

Speaker 8 (36:11):
Release brilliant Wow, damn.

Speaker 5 (36:16):
Right, I mean, hell, just go to the nearest trash.

Speaker 4 (36:24):
You know, what is it like a dumpster?

Speaker 5 (36:27):
Go hit a dumpster up and there'd be enough of them,
Like go right outside right here.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
You could get you enough to get her up out
of it. What am I saying? Look at what we work?

Speaker 5 (36:37):
Yeah? Yeah, all you gotta do is walk around the
building a little bit, go out that side to that
there dumpster and catch you enough, and I guarantee you
you'll drive that.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
That's that problem.

Speaker 5 (36:47):
Now you're gonna still have a problem because then now
you got to get an exterminator to come get.

Speaker 4 (36:52):
Them roaches out.

Speaker 5 (36:53):
But that's a temporary problem that you can get a
fixed for where right now the problem you got is
a much bigger one then then a roach infestival.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
And also, if I were you, if you want to
think next level, hit up an exterminator and be.

Speaker 4 (37:05):
Like, hey, I'll cut you part. You know what do
you say, I'll give you some business. Help me out here. Yeah,
really really lean into this whole thing.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
And look there's it's rough out there.

Speaker 9 (37:15):
Man.

Speaker 4 (37:16):
People got to make a buck, so I get it.

Speaker 8 (37:19):
I've developed a nice friendship with our garbage guy, who
actually there's a stunner. Yeah, well he comes by being
him park in front of my in front of my casa.

Speaker 4 (37:31):
Every day.

Speaker 8 (37:31):
He comes and picks up the trash from the Domino's
pizza that I live next to, and I park in
front of that dumpster every day.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
So yeah, we see each other every so often.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
He LeVar level of shock to find out that Lee
has made friends with the garbage man zero.

Speaker 4 (37:54):
Which, by the way, I didn't know that they.

Speaker 5 (37:56):
Still had garbage men because of all of the electronic
that they had. There's only a driver and they drive up,
they grab the joint, dump it and keep going. When
I was growing up, it was two dudes on the
back at least one, and maybe the second one was
driving on the inside. But I actually got to know

(38:17):
our trash guy when our guys when I was growing up,
in fact, so much so that I would actually even
now to this day, if I'm around, if I'm like
walking out to a car something and they're pulling around,
I'll say, you know, you need a gatorade or water.
I'll actually give the trash guy gatorade or water. Right,
you never know when you're gonna have extra trash, you

(38:40):
know what I mean. And you show some love to
your trash take care of your trash man.

Speaker 4 (38:43):
Man.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
So seriously, my son loves trash trucks, and so whenever
we see him, we always get them to honk. And
I know way too much about like, So let me
ask you this, which is your favorite trash truck?

Speaker 4 (38:57):
Right?

Speaker 1 (38:57):
Do you like the ones that load into the back
or do you like the ones who got the coroda
can in the front and then they have the grab
arm that comes out of the side and dumps in
the front and then they dump and put it.

Speaker 5 (39:07):
Yeah, Like I would go with pretty old school. I
used to like enjoy watching them like compress it, like they.

Speaker 4 (39:13):
Hit the hit the lever.

Speaker 5 (39:15):
I used to always want to pull that lever yea
because they would really really like you see stuff squirting
out and stuff like that, like they that they can
go down start pushing it back in so they creates
some more room.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
I was explaining this to someone because little boys love
the trash truck, and I think what it is. It's
a giant it's a giant magic trick because you can't
figure out where the trash goes, and so you're trying,
like where does it all go?

Speaker 4 (39:41):
And it's just this mystery, and it's like, now, listen,
they've got to put them in there so they can
find out. It's got a hopper. You know, it's a
hopper some people have. Damn, don't be that parent. Please,
don't be that parent. Don't forget it. Son, you want
to take a ride on them on the front loader.
Wait where are you going? Alright, well, you tell your

(40:04):
garbage man.

Speaker 8 (40:05):
Hello, I will, yeah, I will, he says. I back, allay,
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