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How are you? It's popping with Hello? Yeah, usual, bad
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Petro?
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Did you know that sound? Did you prefer that? Did
you prefer that one of the previous one, which I
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You, but the previous, the previous the former was awful
and then you know, so was the ladder. Let's be honest,
but what you do?
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You know, it's a little bit of an improvement.
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It's not Project Pat Chickenhead. Now that would be something
and we could all get to. But that that, I mean,
that's a good bit.
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do for you guys today? What's going on?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Petros? I got a I didn't know that this was
a topic of conversation. But some people are trying to
judge whether or not the Dodgers Padres is a rivalry I.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
Think it's a certainly a twenty first century deal, right.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
I mean Max Montsey said that the Giants Dodgers is
more of a rivalry, that that's a real rivalry, trying
to see Padres.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
I mean, it's like saying, you know, there's rivalries that
last hundreds of years. There's rivalries that go back to
the birth of the sport, kind of like USC Notre Dame,
something we've been talking about a lot over the last
few years. And there's rivalries that are of interest now
because San Diego has Manny Machado and Tatis and Jackson
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Merrill and they're a good baseball team. And the Giants
just won six straight, albeit there playing the Rockies mostly.
But it's a great division. The NL West is an
absolute fireball right now, and it's fun to watch because,
and you know, the talking point from the Dodger people is, well,
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the only reason the division is this close is because
the Dodgers are so beat up and they don't have
any pitching and all of their pitching guys are heard,
and now they're slowly coming back. Blake Smell's working out again,
Toddi's getting ready to pitch, maybe even before the All
star break.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
So there's a lot of movement there.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
But yeah, I mean people go to the games in
mass The games are all sold out. They're screaming the
entire time. There's a lot of social media buzz and
excitement and action. They meet each other in the playoffs
every year, it seems, and have epic battles and there's
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vitriol between the managers between from the last year's playoffs.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
There's all kinds of stuff there.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
So and Manny Machado remember, used to be a Dodger
and ended up with the Padres signing there so, I
mean they did the crying Kershaw do you remember that?
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Oh yeah, from a couple.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Of years ago.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
They beat the Dodgers and I don't know why the
Dodgers are so but heard about this, but they did
like a meme of Kershaw crying and they're ringing Mission
mel up on their JumboTron or their big screens. And
there's a lot of meat on the bone between the
Dodgers and the Padres. Now, Kirk Boom, Yeah, does it
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go way back to the nineteenth century?
Speaker 2 (05:21):
No?
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Does it speak to the expansion to the West coast
of Major League Baseball with the Dodgers and the Giants
leaving Brooklyn and New York respectively, and then those colors
and the orange and blue being replaced and turned into
the New York Mets.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
You know, all of that stuff is endless.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
It's a great rivalry. It's Vin Scully, It's Willie Mays,
It's Tommy Lasorda, it's Juan Marishal.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
It's all that stuff.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
But there's been a lot of fire and brimstone between
the Dodgers and the Padres for decades. And right now,
the Padres, I know they have some financial issues. The owner,
who was a great owner, passed away, and I'm not
sure what the future is. I know their TV deal
is super weird, like Major League Baseball, and they have
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a great TV broadcast and Major League Baseball's in charge
of their TV broadcast. They have like the MLB Mike
Flags and stuff like that. But all that being said,
I think Munsi's right. I mean, the real rivalry, the
one hundred and twenty year old rivalry, is Dodgers versus Giants.
Now this, you know, this can change in a lot
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of ways. I mean it changed in the nineties for
Washington and Oregon. Right in the Pac twelve or Pac
ten or pack whatever you wanted to call it. Back then,
it was Washington. Washington State is the Apple cup Oregon
Oregon State is the Civil War, and those are great
rivalries and everybody gets involved. But in the last twenty
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years is the big arrivalry of the Northwest that developed,
that of anger and hatred and Rick Neuheisel doing something.
Is Washington versus Oregon and jealousy over who the blue
blood in the Northwest is and Phil Knight and all that.
So these things can change, but it's Giants. Dodgers is
the West Coast Yankees Red Sox, and you know, yes,
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it's great when the Red Sox played in Blue Jays
or whatever. But this is a little I mean, Dodgers
Padres is exciting, but it doesn't have the breadth and
depth of.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
The of the history.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Well I'm just gonna ask you that because it does
feel like ESPN still tries to churn out Yankees Red
Sox as if it's you know, twenty years ago and
you got Pedro Martinez assaulting Don Zimmer.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
It's like, well, you know, did he assault Don Zimmer
or did Don Zimmer charge it?
Speaker 1 (07:54):
That's fair? I mean, it's fair.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Scrabbed Don Zimmer by the ear lobes and did a
little bit of an ola.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
I mean he handle bar his ears.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
You know, I want to.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
See Don Zimmer go down like that. And then the
worst part was he went down and he didn't get up. No,
you know, he just went He just.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Dirted it, which was, by the way, that was wild
television back in the day.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Oh, it was awesome.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
I mean it was like it was it was like
one of those simulations and AI you see, we're like
brum and sitting in the Oval office and then he
just starts socking some world leader Like that's not real,
you know, but it really happened.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Uh yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
But Yankee's Red Sox still means a lot to a
lot of people, you know. I mean, I know ESPN
runs it out like like like Big Noon runs out
Brady Quinn versus Liner and.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Every year.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
For that right now, Oh yeah, oh, they're going to
watch the game and go over it again.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
At least we're gonna have to listen to Reggie. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Anyway, all I'm saying is all I'm saying is these
things are cyclical. But for centuries we've had Yankee's Red
so and Dodgers Giants and all of those great things,
and Dodgers padres is really exciting within the context of
the major League season the last few years. But I
don't know if it has the staying power. If the
Padres have the staying power, then then maybe it will.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Hmm, I'm gonna switch sports on you. You do see that? Okay,
let's see you good with that.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
I'm fine. I'm not you know, I'm not really a
baseball expert, believe it or not.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
I mean, you sounded like you were all in on it,
you know.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
I mean, that's that's a testament to how good you
are at the craft that that you've chosen to take on.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
You know. So I'm proud of you. The Betros, thank you.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Look, that's that moment where it's like, you know, two
contemporaries that are the same age, you know, compliment one
another because it's like really cool to give a guy,
you know, his props and his just due. Like you're
pretty dope dude at what you do. Anyway, let me
let me let me throw this one out at you.
Let me hurrow this one out at you.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Uh U c l A.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
They they were able to get an often to Linemen
that was coincidentally heading to Penn State to flip and
oh no, and yeah, big time, big time, like.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
Michael Jordan in the documentary. And I took that personally.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
And I took that person I bet you did. Yeah,
So Johnny, Johnny DJ Jones, he's he's out of Florida,
which is interesting because everybody's recruiting nationally now. And I
know the last time we talked, you're like, listen, they
got to rope off Southern cal and they gotta get
usc that is, has to get the talent that's local.
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But I guess my question for you would be seeing
these these types of reports continue to pop up, how
much do you think the NIL is playing a part
in how this goes?
Speaker 3 (10:43):
And do you think a team like UCLA, who.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Has historically not been aggressive and active in trying to
help the football team be able to be competitive And
that could be like taken by offensively by some people
who may say that, but it's true, true, but it
is true. They prioritize other things over that, which isn't
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a bad thing, but just isn't conducive to them being
a national powerhouse or competitive team to try to win it.
Do you see this becoming the new trend And do
you see teams or schools like a Ucla, you know,
come into the party and say, look, NIL is going
to allow for us to be able to sign bigger
prospects and bigger prospects from around the country.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
Yeah, well, it certainly does basketball wise. I mean UCLA
committed themselves to the NIL basketball wise.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Some could say they even did that under John.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
Wooden when it wasn't legal, but those are different stories
for different times. But yeah, they paid a lot of
money basketball wise, and they were very competitive in the
NIL basketball wise in the last couple of years for
Mick Cronin, and that's made them nationally relevant throughout the
basketball season, which is very different obviously from football. We're
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talking about UCLA. It's very interesting because you're right, LeVar,
I mean, even when I was playing and afterwards, there
was this big pr push for UCLA to be like,
we have one hundred plus national championships. We have all
these different sports, and that's great, not necessarily a bad thing.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
But if you're going to have a very.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
Special football program, you have to treat the football program
in a very special way, and they have to be
treated separate from the rest of the sports and I
think that has been an issue for UCLA for years.
I know for a fact it's what pushed Chip Kelly out.
Now you can think that Chip Kelly underachieved at UCLA.
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You can think that he was a weirdo, you can
say that he lost his offensive touch, and maybe all
of those things are true. But it's also true that
he didn't feel as if he got the support necessary
to compete even in the Pac twelve, let alone going into.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
The Big Ten. So all of those things are true.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
Now this offensive lineman that flipped from that we're using
as an example for the discussion. This guy from Florida
that flipped from UCLA to Penn State, Like, when is
this guy gonna.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
From Penn State to Ucla?
Speaker 2 (13:16):
From Penn State to Ucla to UCLA? When is this
guy allegedly coming to school?
Speaker 3 (13:24):
I mean, he's he's next year, he's a twenty six
er exactly.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
And this is the same thing with the u USC High.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
There's a second the USC High train is like, oh
my god, these guys are coming in twenty twenty six.
Everything's going to change and this is going to be
a great recruiting class in twenty twenty six. And that's
problematic for a few reasons. Number one, if you're a
blue blood or a competitive college football program and Penn
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State says, oh we had this guy, Oh we lost
this guy. Okay, well we're Penn State. We gotta keep
on moving on. He might end up coming back. The
point is you can't these guys. I mean, how many freshmen,
even if there's a great freshman class, especially at today's
day and age where teams use the portal to fill
gaps as opposed to playing younger players, how many freshmen,
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unless it's Travis Hunter or something, how many freshmen are
really going to contribute to your roster If you have
let's say an eighteen which is very high for today's
day and age, I would imagine like an eighteen person
freshman class.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Yeah, how many are going to contribute twenty twenty six?
Like five? Six? Five? Yeah, exactly right, six or five?
Speaker 5 (14:39):
And that's going to save you sc football a freshman
class in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
And then the crazy thing.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
Is is is that guy really coming?
Speaker 2 (14:48):
You know? It's it's one That's.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Where I thought you were going with it, Like, are
these recruits starting to use this now as a recruiting
a negotiating tool, Like, all right, I don't have any
tensions on going to UCLA or wherever the school may be,
but I must say I'm gonna go here because it
shows that, well, i'll de commit, You're gonna assume that
that decommitting is because of money. I mean, that's just
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safe to say that that's what we're going to assume.
So now that opens the door. Say, well, if he'll
de commit from Penn State to go to UCLA, then
if I'm USC or somebody else, it's like, okay, let's
come in with a higher number and we land the.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Top recruit, like by default.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
And is it very different with the de committing and
the committing and I'm taking this trip, I'm not taking
this trip. I mean, there is the money part involved,
and that may be a little bit more above the
table negotiation, But honestly, is it very different than when
we were recruited? Right, Guys will commit, they'll de commit,
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they'll say they're coming. And another thing like, and I
could say this as a West Coast guy who doesn't
know his elbow from his ass, as a young guy,
you know, It's one thing to live and floor and
be a junior in high school and be like, yeah,
that's right. When I'm done, I'm going to Westwood. I'll
see you in La, you know, and I'll pack up
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the U haul you know, call you know, she going
to UCLA, she'd be trying to party.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
I mean, all of those things, you know.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
But then when it's actually in practice and you've got
to say goodbye to your mom and your East Coast
lifestyle and you live on the West Coast and not
everybody is into football at UCLA and there's fifteen thousand
people at the game hit the Rose Bowl that fits
one hundred, maybe you feel a little differently about it.
It's it's a fluid situation for these young people, and
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I don't I feel badly in a way that recruiting
and it happened, I don't know, twenty five years ago,
maybe more thirty years ago, that college football recruiting and
with the NIL and the transfer portal, I guess it's
not as much of a cottage industry as it was,
but it has become a real cottage industry as far
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as following where these young men are identifying, these people
when they're very young, just like your son, LeVar, and
then identifying them and then following where they're going to go.
And it's easy for us to sit here and point
fingers and be like, look at that kid, he transferred,
you know, five times, or he committed five transferring five
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times different, but he committed five to five different schools.
He said he was going to do this. He look
at his hat dance, his mom got up and walked out,
And you know, it's really easy to point fingers and
laugh at people, and really that's our job. But at
the same time, these are really young people, they really are,
and there's a lot of scrutiny on them. It is
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a very difficult thing to be told you're a great
football player and you're going to have a great career
when you were a really young person, because you have
no idea what that means or how it's going to
play out. There are so many different variables between you
and greatness on the field. And we really do a
disservice to these guys by the way we follow them.
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The cat is out of the bag, there's no going back.
But I wish we gave them a little more grace
because it's hard to be young. It's hard to be
young and sit in a room with a college football
coach you've seen on television your whole life, and that
guy asked you to commit.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
What do you say?
Speaker 5 (18:20):
You know, I understand why these guys, you know, tell
five teams that they're going to be their girlfriend. It's
a very difficult thing as a young person to say
no to these people that are on your side and
seemingly want you to be part of what they're doing.
And it's it is kind of interesting. So I try
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to give these guys grace when they commit de commit,
Go here, go there.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
I mean, if you really think.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
About it, what is modern college football recruiting. I mean,
there's a bunch of guys who preach twenty four to
seven about accountability, about keeping your word, about your commitment
to your teammates, about your commitment to living a good life,
your commitment to being a great son or brother or
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boyfriend or husband or father, all of these different things
the lip service that we hear from college football coaches.
Yet all they do in recruiting is just bend their
legs backwards to get a young person to go back
on their word.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Think about that, I mean that's the you know.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
I mean, we use all these platitudes about being a
great person and accountable and truth, justice in the American
way and put the s on the chest and really,
these guys go in somebody's room and be.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Like, forget what you said to Kirby Smart. Come to
old mess right. You know we're gonna take care of you,
the Kiffins.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Do do you guys find yourself because I've found myself
getting more and more exhausted by the storyline surrounding college
football to where it's nil transfer portal college football playoff
twelve team sixteen automatic qualifiers. This conference wants this, this conference,
And I don't know if it's because I just long
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for simpler times, but I find myself worn out by
the constant discussion about changes that need to be made,
and I just want to watch the.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Games, do Yeah? And the off season is exhausting, Yeah,
I mean really is.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
I just want to get to the games, and.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
That's true, and we are all striving to get to
the games. And I guess the NFL and the NBA
have found different ways to entertain people in the off season,
you know, even though nothing actually happens at the draft,
everybody watches like nothing actually happens. There's no real competition
that you know that, that's not why we're watching. But
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and the NBA with their free agency and the way
that works out and the hot takes from this person
and that person and who said what on a podcast,
that off season is a lot more easily easily digested
than what we have in cage football.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
I think it's a good point, Jonas.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
But that being said, when the season rolls around and
we have the games, it feels a lot better and
it feels a lot more natural, and it feels like
all is not lost, which is a good thing. But yeah,
the college football post, I mean this the new committee
that's going to really enforce things. You know, it's like
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the NCAA is hanging on by this skin. They're like
the gambling Commission in the song Atlantic City. I mean,
they're barely hanging on. And now they're going to have
some new police siaka please. I mean these stories, I
mean Lincoln Riley trying to wriggle out of the Notre
Dame ro I mean, these off season stories are pathetic
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and they are they are unsavory, and you can't say
that they don't hurt the sport. I'm positive that they
hurt the sport. But when the season starts and we
have that going, that's good. I mean, I remember are
calling a game and it was I forget who it was.
Oh it was Washington State Boise State, and it was
a good game, you know, John Mattier versus Ashton Gent.
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I mean, that's a hell of a game last year
for star Power and my play by play guy. Because
play by play guys can't help it. They always they
can't just call the game, you know, they always want
to bring up you know, well, look what's going on
in the Mountain Wars, and you know, and and I
just said, look, I'm glad to be calling a game
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where the two teams aren't swing each other.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
By the way I think I was watching that.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
It's true, right, like you know, I mean, at least
these two teams don't hate each other. They want to
be in the Pac twelve together in a couple of years.
So I mean, and I do feel like we should
dismiss those stories during the season because the season is
special and we still have that competition and the revealing
of virtue with young men working together, which is what
we like about college football. But but I take your point.
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The off sea and is exhausting. And it's like LeVar said,
I mean this kid, I mean, this was a big story.
That offensive lineman that flipped.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
There was a big story. That's some tight end, the
tight end from not and modern LA.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
That's it's a new day and age.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
Man U CLA's greatest on lineman ever is a jow
Wow jay Yo Yeah Ogden who's from way out east,
you know Maryland guy, what Saint Altman's prep. I believe so,
I mean, that's that's h They've gotten a lot of
a lot of UCLA doesn't really build the fence in
LA the way that sc needs to.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
But I don't think it's possible for them to do
it unless they brought a big old Brinks truck.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
They can even well, the one time they tried to
do it, Carl Drell pulled a few d line types
out of Crenshaw, big kid named Bryce, remember him from Yeah,
and Pete Carroll got so mad he did that whole
gang outreach thing on sixty minutes. Remember he's wearing like
a leather jacket. Next thing in l Patre was like
at Nickerson Gardens and Watts like.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Hey, what's up? Then that's let's compete. What are you doing?
Speaker 3 (24:06):
What's up?
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Complete blood blood like yourself. It's like, okay, Pete, I
get it.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
You got mad that Carl Dere got one recruit, so
you bought a buck leather jacket and now all of
a sudden you're like cool mode out there.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
What's up? Blood? Get him on X at the Old
p pet the Homiel Hey Strap Brother.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Naked City right now recruiting some practice.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
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Speaker 2 (24:51):
Thank you guys. There he is.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
We are great.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Uh Fox Sports from US a US you say we
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Speaker 1 (25:02):
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Speaker 4 (25:51):
I saw a funny, funny deal on social yesterday. I
was go aha, ask you did you see the video
on a dude that was telling people why he ended
up having to be a part of a divorce. And
it was because on his birthday, you know, he woke up,
you know, his wife didn't say Happy birthday to him,
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kids did say Happy birthday to him. So he went
to you know, went to work upset, bothered, like feeling
a certain type of way underappreciated, undervalued. He goes to
work and nobody says happy birthday to him all day
at work either, So you're going through where he's like, man,
people really don't care about me. And then he goes
into the office and his boss and supervisor wishes on
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a happy birthday, and he's like, oh man, that's it's
really cool. You're the only person that wish me a
happy birthday. He's like, that's, you know, super kind of you.
She is like, well, you know, it's all good. You know,
would you like to go get lunch? And he's like, yeah,
I go get lunch with you. And so they go
out and they get some lunch and they're having lunch,
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having a good time, and she's like, well, you know,
maybe you want to go hang out at my house
for a little bit and you know a little little
coffee or whatever. What don't they I mean, hell yeah,
like let's you know, let's go do it. He felt underappreciated, undervalued,
and so he went ahead and did it, you know,
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went over there to the house. He's sitting on the couch.
She leaves the room. She's like, listen, I'll be right back.
So she goes into the back room. I'm assuming the bedroom,
but she goes in the back room, comes back out
with all the employees from work, the family from home,
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and they threw him a surprise birthday party. Everybody comes
out and says happy birthday, and he was sitting on
the couch butt naked.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
True story.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
I saw it on I fell out. I fell out.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Oh god, I was just joint.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Like I said, I actually saved it because it was
so oh my god, it popped.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Up and here and here we are criticizing Stefan Diggs.
You know what I mean? You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Could you imagine that?
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Man, There's no way there's a serious lapse in your judgment.
You felt underappreciated and somebody was giving you attention, you
went for the cheese.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Could you imagine being the kids?
Speaker 2 (28:31):
I mean, there's that.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Dad, What are you doing that?
Speaker 1 (28:38):
I mean it was just his birthday suit.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
I mean yeah, you'd have to try to use that one.
I mean how I don't know how you leveraged it
in that moment, but I think that's what you would
have to try to do. You know, it's my birthday.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
That's great.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Yeah, yeah, So anyway, hey, listen, it was worth it.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Now I'm getting so it was worth it.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Good for him.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Congratulations, that's a way to get out of here.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
You go.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Now it so somebody who's trying to get out of
having to hear this conversation over and over and over again.
Is one Michael Parson speaking of we Are, and Michael
Parsons is looking to get paid, much like TJ. Watt's
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looking to get paid, much like Trey Hendrickson's looking to
get paid, except Mike is looking to get paid the
first time. This is his first big bite at the
Apple in the NFL. Miles Garrett's getting forty million dollars
in change now at the position. Mike is looking for
that big payday as well too, and he was asked
about the situation yesterday from the media.
Speaker 7 (29:46):
We were talking about how my off season has been,
the training I've been putting in, and he told me I.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Looked pretty good.
Speaker 7 (29:52):
So I got excited about that. Actually about the trip
I just went on, and you know, it was pretty
It was a pretty good conversation and obviously just stepping
up in Van leader how much you appreciate them here
and you know, and you know that means a lot
to me.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
I hopefully to get a deal done before you go
to Hoxton. I'm pretty hopeful.
Speaker 7 (30:11):
I'm still you know, hanging tight, you like, I understand
it's up to him and he gives the green line
and everything, So hopefully something's done, you know, by next month.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Now that he is Jerry Jones, and I'll pose this
question to you. Do you think Jerry Jones is looking
around going damn man Brown, Sure are getting a lot
of coverage this offseason with that shirt or Sanders stuff.
You know what, why don't I go ahead and just
let this thing trickle on a little bit longer. Ultimately
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they're going to get a deal done. Dallas always likes
to wait and they are not averse to having speculation
and storylines when it comes to guys looking to get
a contract when training camp rolls around. We saw what
happened with Zeke Elliott, We've seen the Dak Prescott step before.
I wonder if Jerry Jones is like, hey, this is
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good for business, all right, We're going to get something
done here. We know you're going to be ready to
go when it comes time for the season to perform,
just like you always are and you have been throughout
the course of your career. Maybe we'll just let this
one play out a little bit so we've got a
storyline to kind of bring back some of the coverage
of the Dallas Cowboys this offseason that maybe we haven't
gotten thus far.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
I mean, if they paid all these other dudes. Why
would you not pay Michael Parsons. There's no way to
come up with a proper, a proper conclusion to that,
because there is none. There's not one that exists. Jerry
Jones knows that his son knows that the team knows
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that Michael Parsons knows that his agent knows that they
all know it. So there's no reason to panic, there's
no reason to create any type of beef or any drama.
And Micah knows that. Micah's a very uberly super intelligent dude.
He's ultra competitive, he's very aware, and so whether they
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drag it out or not, I don't think you're going
to hear anything in the media that comes from Michael Parsons. Now,
maybe if it drags out too long, maybe you might
hear something from his agent. But one thing that I'm
pretty certain, if I know him as well as I
believe I know him, You're not going to hear anything
negative come out of his mouth about the situation, because I.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Think he knows.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
In the end, it's your work on the field as
a player that build your value. It's also your works
off the field in the community that uberly built your
value on top of the player, and Michael Parsons has
done a phenomenal job of integrating into the Cowboys community.
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He has been a very positive contributor and ambassador of
their brand, and those things get rewarded, and they really do.
So I don't see there being any issue with with
him getting his money in the end. So it's just
a matter of time.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
And he's been there. It's not like he's just not
participating in the on field stuff. We've seen players just
not show up at all. So he's been around. He
talked with the media. He was like, yeah, listen, I'm
just looking to get a contract done. When he did
that prank call, that good night call to Brian Schottenheimer,
you know, one of the one of the things Schottenheimer
said to him say, hey, man, listen, I know you
know things may be a little awkward right now, but
(33:31):
it's going to be all good. We'll get this figured out.
I just I don't think there's any shot in hell
that they don't get a deal done with Micah Parsons.
I just think this is all part of the Jerry
Jones method, Like, hey, let it drag on a little bit.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
That's fine.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Like, if we've got to pay, and he said as
much before, if I've got to pay, you know a
little bit more to get a deal done, and it
goes on a little longer. So be it like, I'm
not I'm not trying to not get a deal done.
And I think Michael Parsons, to your point, knows that
they're gonna hammer out a deal at some point here.
But this is the Cowboys offseason. It's every off season,
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unlike the Bengals, where you're like, man, I don't know
if they're going to pay any of these guys. I
never worry about whether or not the Cowboys are going
to get a deal done or pay their players. Ever,
I'd never thought of a CD Lamb, Dak Prescott, Zeke,
anybody that's up for a deal, especially ones that have
been drafted recently. They seemingly always get it done. Never
seems like it's.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Going to get done. It it's going to get done.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
And I think he's one of those, you know, and
people were trying to, you know, like make it like, oh,
it's run its course with Michael Parsons. Shut up, No,
it hasn't. It hasn't run any course. You know what
course has been ran his rookie contract. Course, it's come
to an end. Yeah, and now it's time to start
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a different course. And that's it. You don't come across
players that can impact the game the way Michael Parsons
does very often. In fact, I think the compare since
comps wise to his stat line is Lawrence Taylor and
Reggie White. Yeah, guys like that. You don't ever you don't.
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You don't ever hear that comparison.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
You don't.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Those comparisons are so outlandish for somebody to be able
to accomplish at that level. It's one thing to get
compared to those guys coming out of college, but you
being in your first, second, third year of playing, and
those comparisons are still coming based upon the stats that
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you're posting. Let me tell you something. I don't care
what team he was on. He's getting paid. If you
want to put a stamp on something that you know
for certain is about to happen, Michael Parsons is going
to get he Now. I don't know if he gets
more than Miles Garrett, which I doubt he will, But
what if he did, I don't think there'd be one
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person that would say that he did it deserve to
get be the highest paid defender in the league.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Yeah, he's younger than him.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Well why wouldn't they way young?
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Like, if you're the Cowboys, yeah, get this done. And
if it means you got to pay a cent more
than than what Miles Garrett's getting, then pay a cent
more than what Miles Garrett's getting. But get the deal
done now because the way that pass rushing salaries are
going in the NFL. Like, if you're the Cowboys, you've
got to get it done before TJ. Watts gets done, right,
because that's going to probably reset the market again as
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well too.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
That's a good question.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
If I'm the Cowboys, I'm just playing it the way
that I play it because I already know the number
I'm going to give them.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Yeah, and so he's going to get it.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
It's just a matter of when he gets it, which
will most likely be closer to training camp.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Yeah, I mean we're right here at it anyway.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
I mean we're only a few weeks away from from
training camp, you know, starting up. Anyway, he'll he will
be a n Oxnar And even if it doesn't get
done by the time training camp starts, it will get done.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Maybe it's a feel good story. At the beginning of camp.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
Like you said, why use your ammunition when you can
make it a show?
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Yeah, you know, and make it a show.
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Speaker 2 (38:09):
These might smell a little funk, sounds incredible, but they're
still good.
Speaker 6 (38:13):
Time to find out what's lack's Lee's lacks?
Speaker 1 (38:18):
All right, d lap, what do we got? That's right?
Speaker 8 (38:20):
It does feel like forever since last time we had
some NBA action OKC five point favorites on the road
versus the Pacers.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Who you got?
Speaker 3 (38:30):
I got the Pacers.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
I'll take the pacers. Sticks, picks, yee, I'll take the
Pacers getting the points, knocks, locks, guys.
Speaker 8 (38:43):
I don't know if you saw this. I sent this
in the notes. A young Better, twenty four years old,
put thirteen dollars on a five leg parlay. What he's
got left is the Oilers and the Thunder winning their
respective championships could pay out to two hundred and seventy
thousand dollars team. He's twenty four. He put thirteen dollars.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
All sounds like a Jonas n Yeah, about six dollars off.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
I was gonna say he puts.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
Six dollars more down on the bets, right, That's basically
what it was.
Speaker 8 (39:14):
He had hit on Liberty, Dodgers, and Eagles to win
their championships. Now he needs Oilers and thunder. He's gotten
some offers in the six figures, people wanting to buy
his ticket off of him.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
Really, Yeah, he's hedging his bets. He's putting like fifty
thousand dollars to hedges bets.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
But uh, that's a smart play. Yeah, he put fifty
thousand dollars on.
Speaker 8 (39:33):
Well he's looking at and doing that. Yeah, putting fifty
thousand down to hedges bets.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
It's a smart play. Huh.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
Although at this point, meaning what meaning if he he
what what does that mean?
Speaker 8 (39:45):
Basically betting on I'd say the Florida Panthers or the
Pacers so to speak. So if they win, then he'll
win some money there.
Speaker 4 (39:52):
Yeah, and that way, that way, at least he'll win something, Yeah,
he's saying, but that takes away from what his ultimate
pot would be if he just stayed where he is
right headging Yeah, I mean he's going to lose money
regardless one way or the other.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Listen, I just want to win a bet. I'm not
asking for a lot. I just want to win one
at anything.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
That'd be nice.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
And I can't well when you're a loser, you damn
pony bunk.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Yeah, I would go one man, Just kidding,