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Speaker 3 (00:37):
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Speaker 1 (00:39):
Hey? This song sucks? This song? Who put this? This
is another Brady pick?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (00:47):
I think Brady made another pick this. I think this
came in last fright.
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Why why? I don't know.
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I got to I told them, I told them what
I wanted. But Brady going directly to you know where
Ricky is?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
He's not here?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Stop here? What are we doing? What are we doing?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
I think he was trying to send messages? Right?
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Well, well, oh here's one. Still get rid of this song.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
He still wants to be part of the show. Of
the show.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Oh really, I mean he's more than he's more than
welcome to be a part of the show.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Who says he doesn't have to be a part of
the show.
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I just want a decent song in hour three. That's
all I'm asking for. We had pop it. It lasted
a day and then it got switched again, switched again,
and before that it was you know that machine gun
Carl or whatever his name is. I mean, can we
get like, can we get something?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Thank you?
Speaker 5 (01:54):
Here we go, yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
We can breathe.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Yeah, come on, Puppet Jonas, Oh my god, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
It is two pros and a cup of Joe here
on Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Gionas Knox with you
better known as Black and Track. We are going to
take you all the way up until the end of
this hour and nine am Eastern, six o'clock Pacific, and
we might have ourselves may I don't know, gamesmanship, maybe
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a new strategy. Who's trying on? Something new here? Something new?
When it comes to Game five of the NBA Finals
later on tonight. And by the way, if you're wondering,
why aren't you recapping Game five? I don't know. Talk
to the NBA. They decided, no, we don't want to
play a game on Sunday night, even though there was
a day in between then we'll just space this out.
In fact, you don't want but let's do this even further.
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Let's after tonight's game, let's don't play the next game
till Thursday. Like that'll be the move, you know, because
the NBA has got to try and squeeze this for
all they can and milk every storyline they possibly can
get from these NBA Finals. But maybe a little bit
of an interesting strategy here. Rick Carlisle, the head coach
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of the Indiana Pacers, decided to take a different approach.
A lot of times we criticize the officials, and we
meaning coaches in the NBA who want to get a
call the next game. They're critical of how the fouls
were laid out and who got more free throw attempts, etc. Etc.
Rick Carlile took a different approach and defended once Scott Foster.
Speaker 6 (03:45):
I think it's awful what some of the things I've
seen about the officiating at Scott Foster in particular. I
know it Scott Foster for thirty years. He's a great official.
He's done a great job in his playoffs. We've had
him a lot of times, and the ridiculous scrutiny that's
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being thrown out there is terrible and unfair and unjust
and stupid.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
I like the approach. I like the approach, butter them up,
start defending the guys.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
And.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
I'll say this, I get it.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
You know, some people feel as though they need to
step in in these type of situations and defend and justify.
And it sounds like there's some personal feelings connected there
and his reasoning and and and listen to.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Say you're stupid if you're questioning.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Our officials officiate, I would have to say, you know,
in that moment, Rick, like know, like think, take two
more seconds to think about that one.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
I mean, okay, defend them.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
Say you know, your opinion is that you feel as
though the scrutiny on officiating and one particular referee uh
is unfair in your estimation.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
But to say that.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
It's stupid to have feelings towards how referees called games
in the NBA, UH, that that might be considered or
qualify as a stupid statement. I ain't gonna say he's stupid.
I'm just gonna say that's just not a that's not
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a super super uh intelligent informed you know, conclusion to
how referees ref in the National UH, in the National
Basketball Association.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
That's what i'd say.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
You know, it does feel like like though the the
standard approach if you wanted to get some calls the
next game. I think Phil Jackson was one of the
greats at this is that. You know, you'll maybe through
the media question, you know, it seemed like, you know,
I was hoping we could get a few more calls here,
but you know, I think they missed a couple, so
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on and so forth, you know, kind of passive aggressively
dance around the topic, and instead Rick Carlisle's like, no, no, no,
I'm gonna ball wash these guys. I'm going to defend
them and then hopefully in a pivotal Game five, we'll
get a couple of these calls coming up later on tonight.
I mean, this could be this could be a real
difference maker in the NBA Finals. Good for Rick Carlisle.
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Different approach, Take that approach.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Maybe it is games miss ship.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
I mean, if you're going to if you're looking to
get calls to go your way. I mean, nobody I've
never seen a team get the right call unless they
were getting the call right like you've never You've never
felt like calls went your way unless a call was
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called for you. You know, the fans feel that way.
Unless the call is for your team, it's a bad
call the referees. I've never seen a game where you
felt as though it's funny. I remember one time I
went to a game and I was watching the game,
and I started on one side of the bleachers and
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was listening to the game, complaining about the referees, the
officials and the way they're officiating and winning. Sat on
the other side of the stadium for the second half
of the game. Guess what I heard on the other
side of the stadium, parents, fans complaining about the officials
officiating the game.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Both sides, home, away, both teams.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
Everybody is going to have a problem with the calls
that they're not getting or the calls that go against them.
That's just always been the nature of the game. The
problem with NBA officials is that the stuff that they
be doing sometimes be so egregiously bad that there's no
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way to get out of, you know, saying that they're
not culpable for some of the things that they've done
and some of the calls that have been made and
how heavy or how shifted it can seem in terms
of how the game is being called, who gets the calls,
who doesn't get the calls. I mean, that's just part
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of it, and there's no getting through that.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
It also doesn't help that they once had an official
who also was part time because his full time job
was he was a degenerate gambler and decided, well, I'll
just I'll try and fix games that are playoff games
to boot and Scott Foster's name was one of those
names kind of thrown around. Is maybe he, you know,
knew a little bit more than he let on according
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to some people. So Rick Carlisle interesting approach. We'll see
if it pays off. Coming up later on tonight with
the Pacers and the Thunder in Game five. Now, there's
another big event that's taken place later on tonight. For
those of you listening on the Blowtorch AM five to
seventy LA Sports, we were wondering, what is this going
to happen? Oh, it's going to happen tonight show. Heyo
(09:17):
Tani will be the starting pitcher for the Dodgers, as
announced last night. It was late last night they made
the announcement Padres Dodgers coming up later on tonight and
Show Heo Tani. We've been wondering he's been working back,
he's been throwing some sessions on the side. He's obviously
been fantastic at the plate, but we've not yet seen
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him pitch with the Dodgers, and he will be the
starting pitcher tonight. My guess would be he goes an inning,
maybe two, but they'll start Otani on the mound against
the Padres coming up later on tonight. So that's always
fun to watch because it's something you don't hardly ever
get to see, and we're going to get to see
it was Show Heo Tani, so that'll be fun.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
There hardly get to see.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
What I mean, a guy who's going to be pitching
and hitting at the same time. I mean modern day
Babe Ruth type stuff with shoot.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
I didn't know.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
I thought pictures were in the batting rotation. No, you
mean that he's an exciting hitter.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Well, so he's the starting pitcher, and he's also maybe
their best hitter as well too, so he can do.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
But that's what you're saying because most most pictures aren't
very they're not considered to be really good battery.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
When they when they went to the designate hit for
a battery. Yeah, when they hit for four pictures.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
It used to be the designated hitter was just in
the al and so the NL the pictures would have
to bat as well too. But now they've gotten rid
of that. It's the universal d H over the past
couple of years. So now pictures never hit and so
show heyo Tani ever hit never.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Wow, that's new to me. I didn't even know that.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
Yeah, so they don't they don't like today years old,
knowing that now. Okay, yeah, so we're gonna get to uh,
we're gonna to see Otani go out there and uh
and throw it around.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
A little bit.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
He's been working his way back.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
I'm just going continue the reason why I didn't know
that that was a thing now, you know, I'm just
going to stay on that road, you know, just keep
You can tell me about how it goes. Yeah, I
didn't even know that that had happened. I like, I
was of the thought process that pictures still were in
the batting lineup, but they they uh, pictures would like
maybe be the what like the fifth fifth hitter and
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on on, you know, beyond three or four in the
in the battle, you know.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Most likely right, yeah, I mean you had you had
some pictures that were good hitters. You know it was
actually a really good hitter, was Fernando Valezuela that people
don't know, Like people remember Fernando Mania, but they don't
remember he was actually a really good, like really good athlete,
really good hitter. But most pictures would just go up
there and hold the bat, and some wouldn't even swing
at the at the ball. They just be like, this
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is a waste of my time. And so part of
Major League Baseball wanting to make the game more exciting
was they were like, dude, why would you It was
like the extra point being twenty yards. Roger Goodell was like,
can we turn this into an exciting play somehow? So
they moved it back. Baseball's like pitture out us, Yeah,
what are we doing here? This is for the most part,
you know, none of these guys know what they're doing
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or even want any part of it. So let's, you know,
give another job to somebody else. They bring in a
dh now and uh and so shohe a Tani's gonna
actually uh step up be the starting pitcher later tonight
and we get to see how that plays out again, probably.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
On the equivalent of that, Like, what's the equivalent of
that excitement and a different sport?
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Is there a comp like?
Speaker 5 (12:30):
Cause to me, it's like I don't care that, Like, Okay,
show hey can hit? Sh Okay, show Hey is finally
going to pitch? What's the comp in terms of if
you're a baseball fan, what's the comp in terms of
how exciting that is to have a guy that's gonna
pitch and hit in the same game.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yeah, Travis Hunter, Okay, all right, there you go, all right,
Dion Dion back in the day being able to do
offense and defense, that was always fun to watch. Yeah,
But it would be like you're starting quarterback, going out
there and getting a couple of snaps on defense. On defense, Wow,
this is interesting.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
It'd be like it'd be like it would be like
jayde and Daniels playing quarterback and then going out there
and playing safety. Yeah yeah, and actually being able to
get an interception and possibly run one back for a touchdown.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Yeah yeah?
Speaker 5 (13:22):
And are good then that that that makes sense to me?
That is something to be excited about. I mean, I'd
be scared to death that he gets hurt. So are
you scared to death? Are are fans scared to death
that show? Hey, we'll get hurt pitching the ball.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
I mean he already has. That's the risk. It's the risk,
but that was part of.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
But that's what I'm saying. But you're going to put
him up there even though that's the risk. I mean,
is that is that like nerve wracking? Is it like
is the reception of that going to be positive? Or
our fans like, don't do it? He could get hurt?
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Indeg How does that work?
Speaker 1 (13:54):
They've been really careful about bringing him back and so
so he'll get an inning tonight and they'll slowly start
to extend him as the season goes on. And Dave
Roberts has been really good about kind of managing their
injuries and their issues that have come up because they've
they've been everyone was talking about this them having you know,
a ten deep starting rotation, but because of the injuries
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and the stuff that's come up, they've had to really scramble.
They've had some bullpen games here and there. So Otani
will get the first inning tonight, maybe I'll get the
second inning would be my guess. And then the next
time out they'll extend him a little more and they'll
be really careful about it because he is coming back
from you know, the surgery and all that.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
So well, it makes them a good pitcher. Is it
his speed? Is it his control of the ball.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Yeah, he's he's got good velocity, he's got good movement,
like he can really pitch. It's not just one of
those put him out there as a gimmick like he can.
He can really pitch. And in fact, he's probably on
any other rotation in baseball if he's one hundred percent,
he's a top or top two starter in any rotation
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in baseball for the most part. And the Dodgers are
you know, They've got a wealth of advantages roster wise,
and this is just another one of them. And that's
why that's the part that's so fascinating about Otani is
he was doing this with the Angels an hour away
from Dodger Stadium, and nobody really cared. Nobody cared because
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the Angels and they don't have the gravity or the
care damn.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
You know, but I care. I'm curious as to all of.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
You know what you just gave me educationally speaking like
I understand, I understood what you were saying. I understand it,
but yeah, I don't care. It's not on my top
of my to cares list.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
And I mean, that's what makes the Travis Hunter experiment
so fascinating is because you're trying to figure out how
do they manage this because you I don't if they
just have him playing receiver or dB. I'm like, all right,
but you've got to try him out at both, Like
you've got to figure out a way get certain packages
in that he can that he can participate in both.
(16:08):
And I think they're trying to figure that out, and
Liam Cohene and the Jaguars are trying to figure that out.
But it's it's just probably a little bit, a little
bit difficult task to know when what is too much
because I don't recall Travis Hunter ever being out of
gas at Colorado. I don't recall that ever happening where
they're like, man, I don't know is cardio His fatigue
looks a little bit questioned, But this is the NFL.
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So now they've got to figure out how they how
they manage that and you know, work on his snapcount
there so we'll get to see it is Two Pros
and a Cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up next though,
we've got a very special guest who's going to stop by,
Michael Rubin, the CEO of Fanatics. He'll be yours right
here on FSR.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
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Speaker 1 (17:06):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up in
about twenty minutes from now, we are going to have
another edition of Lee's Leftovers that'll be yours here on
FSR again. Twenty minutes from now here on this Monday edition,
we are going to catch up with Michael Rubin, the
Fanatics CEO, who's going to be joining us here in
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just a couple of moments from now. Lots to talk
to him about, including Fanatics Fest, which is a giant
event that is taking place. We'll give you all the
details and all the information on that. But anybody who's
shopped for sports apparel online over the last X amount
of years, you've probably done it on Fanatics. I mean,
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like their growth and their reach is incredible, what they've
done and what they've been able to do. And right
now joining us here is Michael Rubin, the Fanatic CEO. Michael,
thanks so much for the time. Good morning to you.
Speaker 7 (18:01):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
What's happening, guys, How you doing good?
Speaker 1 (18:03):
We are good. I wanted to ask you this because
I was just mentioning anybody who's bought you know, sports
apparel or anything over the last X amount of years
has probably done it through Fanatics. The reach, the growth
that you guys have seen is amazing. But going back
to the early days, because you've been successful with a
lot of things that you've done throughout the course of
your career, and we're going to touch on Fanatics vests
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as well too, but what did the early struggles look
like for you when you were trying to build something
and get to this point? What was what were those
days like for you?
Speaker 7 (18:36):
Well, first, I want to say, I feel like I'm
still building a startup even though today we're twenty two
thousand people in a pretty global business. We kind of
act on the start. We stay paranoid, we stay hungry,
we stay humble. But for me, like I'm fifty two now,
I've been at this since I've been eight years old,
so forty four years. I mean, I've had a thousand
epic failures. You know, that's part of life, man, that's
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part of going so different. When you play sports, you know,
run into a wall, things don't go the way you
wanted to. And that's been my journey.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
Man.
Speaker 7 (19:04):
I almost went bankrupted sixteen, hundreds of thousands of dollars,
had creditors shown up at my house every day, and
you know, to me, each one of those you know,
kind of near death experiences that you know, I think
I've had up until maybe fifteen years ago, all night
to the next the next success.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Hey, what's up?
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Mike gets LeVar here man first and foremost, crazy crazy
man happy, Uh, excited to talk to you.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
I'm doing real well. Uh.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
First and foremost, I'm hurt that I haven't received the
invite to one of them white parties. By the way,
I have such a white suit that is very nice.
Uh shameless plug on on getting an invite.
Speaker 7 (19:48):
Uh. Second, of all, I've had a few of those
during this process. But you know, you got to really
be in training for that, Like you've got to be
strong and have great endurance to thirteen hour party. We
really see what you're made of. I mean, I don't
know you well enough to whether you're built for that party.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Yes, well I'll say this.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
You do know Michael Parsons and and well, I played up,
played a pretty good played a pretty good role and
making sure that he was in good enough condition when
when y'all ended up finally uh meeting and making acquaintance,
you know, you know, the whole Stick City family. You know,
I'll come bring the Stick City to to the Sticks party,
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you know, with the Ruben deal. But anyways, that was
a personal moment. I just wanted to talk to Mike
Rubin and and say that, you know, it felt kind
of good actually, but uh, talk to me about what
what you got going on. I mean, you have been
able to really kind of diversify in what it is
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that you're doing from content.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Offerings to the apparel.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
It's like you have figured out how to to really
be able to capture different categories and different silos of
of you know, revenue streams. Just talk a little bit
about what went into the thought process and the evolution
of what Fanatics has represented.
Speaker 7 (21:12):
Sure, well, I think really what we desire to do
is take care of the sports fan with everything they
need digitally, and that's you know, we've really spent the
first decade focused on our fangear business we call finacs commerce.
It's what a lot of people know, it's the you know,
we own fourteen hundred lid stores with the flagship Fanatics website,
we operate you know, many of the leagues and teams
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individual e commerce businesses and when we've still got a
lot to go there, I think four or five years
ago we realized that we could really really reimagine the
company's a digital sports platform. And since then we've launched
our entire collectibles and trading card business, and we've launched
our betting and gaming business. And I think in everything
we do, we start with a fan and say how
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do we make it better for the fan. Now, that
doesn't mean we've always got it right. Sometimes we've now
that we've knocked out of the park. At other times,
you know, we've got to keep working to be better
and better. You know, in the bet. In the gaming business,
as an example, when we launched we launched a better
value proposition, we said, how do we make this better
for a fan? And you know example, that was like
we went out and said, look, we're going to give
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fan cash, which is basically free money back and every
time you bet, so next year we're going to grant
about more than a billion dollars of fan cash, and
you can use that to make other bets, to buy merchandise,
to buy cards, to buy tickets, to go to lids,
to go to tops, and so that was really popular, and
we said that wasn't enough. Just that alone wasn't enough.
We also want to make sure if any player got
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hurt during the fresh quarter, we take the player out
of the player prop bet. And so we had hundreds
of thousands of bets that would have lost that would
have won. The reason I'm telling you this, it was
like the mindset of saying, we don't want to be
just another sports book. We want to make it better
for the fan. In the collectibles business, we said, what
are the problems we got to solve. We have people
talk about, you know, huge redemptions, that's like an io
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you on a car like if you can to sign
your car, than you owe to the customer, and there
are hundreds of thousands of redemptions. They're outstanding. There hadn't
been a lot of marketing, a lot of product innovation,
so everything we're doing is around how do we make
it better for the fan. But today we have three
primary businesses. We have our fan gear business, our collectible
and trading cards business, and our sports betting and eye
game of business. And look, we've grown a lot. We
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were two hundred and fifty million dollars in two thousand
and we know when I bought the company back in
twenty eleven, it will be close to twelve billion dollars
next year. But we still feel like a startup. We
still feel like we're just getting started. That's what's so
exciting for me.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Michael Rubin, Fanatic CEO, with us here on Fox Sports Radio.
LeVar Arrington, Jonas NOx with you here on FSR. What's
been the most difficult part of your growth that you
look at and go this has been the hardest part.
Speaker 7 (23:45):
Yeah. First of all, I think a lot of things
are like we grind every day, like people always think.
You see things like our Super Bowl party of the
White Party or Fanatics Fast, and it was like, oh man,
Michael Rubin's got the most fun life. And by the way,
I do have the most fun less but worth spend
my time. It's working seventeen hours a day at the business.
It's not like you know, it's not like what someone
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may see on Instagram or imagine. I mean, this is
really about grind now. It's no different than like, you know,
Tom Brady wants seven super Bowls, so that guy grinded
harder than anybody in the planet to get those seven
super Bowls. So you know, we're grinding every day. I say,
probably the most difficult thing is when you go from
one business to three businesses to make sure that you've
got so many competitors that are trying to, you know,
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kill you, make it make it hard for you. But
I like that. I'd say if I did the one
most difficult difficult thing, it's Fanatics Fest. I mean, that's
what we're in the middle of right now. We're going
to launch Fanatics Fest. It starts this Friday, goes for
three days. We're going to have more than one hundred
thousand fans come to the Javit Center that we took
over in the middle of New York City, and this
is a first of a kind of sports festival. But
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what's hard is getting every sport in the world to
show up at Fanatics Fest. To get I think we
have more than three hundred athletes, celebrities, artists, the biggest
people in the world coming to this. So you've got
like people like Jay Z and Travis Scott. You've got
in basketball, Wemby lebron kd Kat James Harden all coming
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in football. We moved this from August last year to
June so we could have all the activant of all players,
guys like Michael Parsons, your boy, who, by the way,
he's been talking a lot of smack about how he's
winning the financial games and taking a million dollars. We
got to see what he's made up. But you've got
half the NFL starting quarterbacks there this year. You've got
Russell Wilson, Jaden Danielskylo Williams, Bryce Young, Joe Burrow, you
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got Brady Back. You've got so many, you know, the
top receivers here. So you know, I think just polling
together three hundred athletes, artists, celebrities all one place all
the sports together. That is, with that question, the hardest
thing that we do. But so we woarding. When you
see fans that just they lived in tears. They're so
happy they've had, you know, generations of a family coming
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together and having such a great time. So for me,
that's probably the number one hardest thing I do. But
we're grinders to start with.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
How are you able to do it? Mike?
Speaker 5 (26:07):
Like I'm just listening to you know what the fest
is going to represent. There's a ton of money involved
that the fans can win. They get that opportunity to
do things that only you could dream of, which is
have the you know, chance to compete against guys like
for me, you know, I think the next thing you
gotta do, you gotta get uh, you gotta get Magnus.
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You know, you gotta do like a chess tournament. I
want to play Magnus and chess, you know what I mean.
But that's that's a whole nother story you are able
to right now.
Speaker 7 (26:37):
I don't want to be any details, but there might
be a chess surprise of course, tell you that I'm
not going to give any more details, but expect the
internet to break. Internet to buy a fight Friday or
Saturday when you see a little chess stunk going on.
We got one ups already.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
Already, you've got that sarcasm. I know that that it
has to be sarcast true.
Speaker 7 (27:01):
And by the way, Michael Parsons is actually part of it.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
Okay, Okay, Well then now I do know it's true
because I definitely we definitely play each other.
Speaker 7 (27:11):
Uh, I'm reading against them, by the way, just because
I love against Mike in general. It's generally a fun
thing for me to do.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
So it is going to be a test master that
he's going to play a Graham. That's pretty dope.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Uh. How do you do it? How do you pull
all of it?
Speaker 5 (27:28):
You talk about how hard it is, it's so many
moving pieces just to deal with a handful of celebrities,
a handful of athletes. How are you able to pull
all of these people together the way that you do.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
How are you able to pull together.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
The plan where you can monetize it in a way
where the fans not only get an experience, but actually
really have an opportunity to cash in on it.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
How how do you do it?
Speaker 5 (27:58):
Like?
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Is it? Is it your team? Is it constant? Absolutely
from you, are you more of a process guys? It
more visionary? How do you pull together a fest like
this where.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
It offers all of the elements and celebrities that it does.
Speaker 7 (28:12):
Look, it's a great question. I think the first thing
you need to do is dream You got a dream bag, okay?
And for me, we were The idea for Finace Fest
came from is I had gone to so many music festivals.
I had been to south By Southwest, I had been
to Comic Con. And then in the in the trading
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card business, you have these trading card shows which I'd
growing up as a kid going to, and they got
a really big one called the National, which is incredible
from the quantity of people they get. But it hasn't
really evolved a lot in the last thirty or forty years.
And so from my perspective, I said, why don't sports
fans have a sports festival? Like? I don't get it. It
doesn't make sense. So many other industries have this, and
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so I'm just basically we're doing this. And I had
no fear whether it would work or not. So you know,
I went out. I got the guy who kind of
ran comic on New York and he joined fanatics, and
we were like, hey, we're gonna do the same thing
that they do in Comic Con in sports, and you know,
the reality is if I keep this real three reasons
before the first one last year, I'm like, how do
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I get myself into this? This is a disaster. It's
so hard, Like do we really want to do this
because you're pulling out every you know, favor, you have
to just bring everyone together. But then you're like, sports
fans deserve it, Like we got to do this, like
push through. It's no different than I'm sure you in
the peak of some of your you know, craziest moments.
You know, you don't know it's going to be, just
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you find a way to win. And that's what we did.
We have seventy thousand people come the first year, and
people absolutely loved it, Like I can't tell you that
the great feelings that everyone had seen, all these happy fans,
and you know, for me, that was the motivation we needed.
So this year we came back. We said, you know,
we got to make it better. We got to fix
all the things that did work. And by the way,
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first year, lots of stuff weren't wrong, like our autograph
and and photo lines were a disaster the way we
set up the first year, but we went back and
we re envisioned the entire thing, and you know, like
this year it's going to be so much bigger, so
much better. We're taking over the entire building and a
million square feet again. You've got when you think about
bringing like you know, Jay z and Trapp, Kevin Hard,
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you know all the starting quarterbacks I rattled off, you know,
lebron kd James Harden, Wemby, all these guys in the
same place. A Rod, Derek Jeter, you know, top top rustlers,
Cody Rhodes, John Cena, all these guys together. It does
take a ton, but look, we've got a great team
and we've just got a commitment to making sure we
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make this as good as we can. But we're never satisfied.
Like I'm walking through this thing for before it opens,
every day after closes, I'm getting feedback from fans figuring
out what we can do better, and like we love it,
like it's it's like a total kid by five way.
We lost lots of money on the first time we
did it, were still losing money this year, but it
is a great marketing moment for Finax. We show up
in a great way, and when you know, you own
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the internet for the weekend, and we're going to own
social media. Not I think just on Bri sighting Sunday,
but I think we're gonna own it for the week
because we have so many incredible moments coming. That's also
a fun thing for us to do.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
You can find more information at Fanaticsfest dot com. It's
coming up this weekend, June twentieth to the twenty second
at the Javit Center in New York City. As mentioned,
I mean, I'm looking through the roster. There's not a
league that doesn't have a representative. There's I mean the
number of Hall of Famers, World champions, et cetera that
are going to be there this weekend. Awesome event. Again.
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Michael Rubin, fanatics CEO. You can get him on x
at Michael Rubin and go to Fanaticsfest dot com for
more information on the event. Cannot thank you enough man,
Congratulations on all your success and looking forward to this weekend.
That'll be fun.
Speaker 7 (31:53):
Hey, I appreciate you guys, thanks so much for having me.
I look forward to you guys.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Look, you guys, life sounds good.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
There.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
He is Michael Rubin with us here on Fox Sports Radio.
You just look at the number of like we will
go to Super Bowl events and you'll see a ton
of celebrities, and you'll see a ton of people at
these certain events. If you just go through the roster
of superstars that are going to be there, they did
seventy thousand people as you mentioned last year. They've got
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all that. But like you asked him of ar, like
how do you pull it off? It just it goes
to show you, like when people tell you, man, father
times undefeated. No, no, no, hard work's undefeated. If you
work your ass off, you can accomplish a lot. And
he's worked his ass off and he's grown a business
exponentially over the past number of years.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Phenomenal. That's a great point. And he's yeah he does.
Speaker 5 (32:44):
And people rock with him, man, and listen that that
whole that's interesting because me and Micah play chess, like
that's that's our thing, is playing chess. I used to
really like bowling until I broke my wrist. That would
have been enter yeah, right, But yeah, I did use
to bowl bowl quite a bit, but I always have
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loved chess.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
So I think he's going to play.
Speaker 5 (33:08):
I think he's going to play somebody like that would
be crazy if he played like Caspar Roth or or Magnus.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
And didn't know Magnets just lose.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
They just lost.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Yeah, he got upset. I think it was like, was
it like a big upset or something like that.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
It was a big one. Yeah, it was pretty big.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Yeah, Like I was good. I'm not really much of
a chess guy. It's too easy. I prefer checkers, big checkers, guy,
connect four you want to get you want to get
that work, you can come find me and connect for
something along those lines. But when it comes to chess, yeah, it's.
Speaker 5 (33:37):
Just too Yeah. I was on my way into to
uh Pittsburgh. I was playing playing his game on on
h on my flight and it only goes up to
fifteen you know. So I'm playing a fifteen year old
Magnus and I was close, it was coming close, and
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I just couldn't beat them. Oh you fifteen year old
fifteen year old level.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
So you can play different levels of him in the game.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
I'll whoop his ass at what is it, five years old?
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Oh yeah, whoop his ass.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Damn.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
But I go up to the hardest level I go
up to he was actually qualifying to go to the
Worlds and compete and for a world championship, a world
title at fifteen. So dude is a He's a phenom.
Like I mean when you say phenom, like literally like
people like him, the things that they're able to do,
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the way they're able to see the board, the way
they're able to understand what moves are because and chess,
a lot of it is memorization. People don't realize that,
but it's memorization like if somebody moves here, here are
the here are the right moves to make. If somebody
moves there, here's the right move, and so on and
so for or you can almost like kind of depending
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on somebody's approach their style to playing, you can memorize
a lot of the game and so based off of
the move pattern. And so it takes somebody that's really
good to be able to get somebody to have to
make their own moves based off of thinking versus off
of memorization of this. If the board looks like this,
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if the person moves here, if they do this, this
is what you do. Like it's kind of it's just
a crazy game, man, It's a crazy game because you
got to be almost like a computer, you know, like
Magnus was playing a game. I watched this as a
documentary on him.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
He did. He played like sixteen.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
Professors or ten professors at Harvard back like facing the
opposite direction of them, blindfolded.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
He wasn't even looking at the boards. He had to.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
He had had it memorized so well, he could give
you the court and it's make the moves.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
And he made it. All of them, Harvard Harvard professors.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
Like legal guys, just just very very intelligent people. He
made it all of them blindfolded, not even looking at
the board.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
So you asked him to throw football and he would
go into convulsions.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
Oh well yeah, yeah, you know you smack him up now,
she smack him.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Body slammy, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (36:32):
You know.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
No, he's the type of he's smart. He might fly
away or something.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
No, you don't know, man, he's got he's got propellers.
He's got a propeller.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
He might fly away. Bro.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
He's like he's like the kid from Goonies who's always
got like a weapon on me. He's got he's got
a boxing glove. On Iti.
Speaker 5 (36:52):
What was his name, gizmo? Yeah, yeah, but his his
name was something like that. Yeah, le Data Data Data,
data Data.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
That's it. Wow, what a nerd.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
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Speaker 2 (38:00):
These might smell a little funk. Sounds incredible, but they're
still good. Time to find out what's lap?
Speaker 1 (38:08):
It's lea all right, the laugh? What do we got.
Let's get some birthdays out of the way.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
How about Phil Michelson left, He turns fifty five today,
obviously just played in probably his last major. Never did
get that US Open, and Tupac would have been fifty
four today, just just behind Phil Michelson fifty five and
fifty four.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
I have a buddy who's an alcoholic who likes to
golf too, and we call him Rephil Michelson. Anything about that?
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Gotta drink with the left hand about it?
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Guy literally drinks every day. Nothing wrong with that. Yeah,
here's what is wrong with it. He realized that the
white the white claw, the white cans were only like
five percent, so he stuffed on the gas and started
drinking the blue cans. Now they're like eight are so gross.
He rips those daily. He's probably listening to.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
What else we got, guys, you want Florida Man news
or Salt Lake City Man news.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Salt Lake Hell, yeah, all right.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
Salt Lake City Man. Uh tried stabbing his buddy with
a wooden steak. Claiming that he thought he was a werewolf.
The problem with that is a wooden steaks are for vampires.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
Silver bullets are from wolf. Yeah, silver bullet? Yeah, jeez.
Got did he succeed he?
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (39:31):
He choked out the guy first, and then he went
to go get a wooden steak with a nail. The
guy woke up and then fought back, but he was
attacked with the wooden steak, and then he stole his
backpack ran away.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (39:42):
So, no, he did not succeed in uh vanishing the
uh the werewolf vanquishing vanquishing?
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Guess what that was? The word that was he did
not take care of the were wolf. Okay, then what
happened in Florida?
Speaker 1 (39:56):
First of all, why would he think his buddy was
a were wolf? Do we have picture of the buddy?
Does he look like a werewolve?
Speaker 4 (40:02):
I do not have pictures of the of the assailants.
I love the victim, damn. But when they found him,
he had a bunch of rocks in his pockets. So
you know, I don't think everything was quite turning correctly.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
For what was his name? Todd? Wasn't Todd? Out of town?
Speaker 4 (40:20):
Todd got back into town I picked him up from
Burbank Airport on Friday after the show.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Hi Todd, Oh what what else we got to leave out?
So it's a Florida store man.
Speaker 4 (40:32):
Seventy seventy year old gentleman was relieving himself on ten
thousand dollars worth of food at Sam's Club.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Here's my thing about it.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
It was on a bunch of cans of spam and
Vienna sausages. You could just wash that off, right, they're
they're canned. But they had to throw away ten thousand
dollars worth of merchandise after how old is this guy?
Speaker 3 (40:51):
Seventy years old?
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Years?
Speaker 3 (40:53):
I wouldn't need it.
Speaker 5 (40:54):
After that, you probably could wash it off and tell,
you know, people not thing, but it's compromised, it's it's contaminated.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
That was the right move.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Yeah, but you know what, you could probably discount it.
Like when the cans of a debt and they put
them on that that aisle where they get the cheap
prices somebody will buy.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
People would bounce, they bounce, they would