June 20, 2025 • 40 mins
Fans should be happy for a Game 7, but are burned out by how long the playoffs take as a whole. Tom Brady swayed the Raiders away from signing Sam Darnold in the offseason. Plus, 50th Anniversary to Jaws and an update on the Diddy Trial.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
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Speaker 3 (00:32):
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It's another Cube request.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
I don't think so. Who did this one? I think
this is a Ricky special?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Who it's accurate? I'll say that.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
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big old butt. Oh my god, tell them, sir, mix
a lot.
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Speaker 2 (01:18):
I had nothing to do with this, even though I
like Baby with back. Yeah yeah yeah, shake it, shake it,
baby got back? Oh my god, it is hey, speaking
of baby got back? What's the latest on said? It's
sharp that thing seemed to die on the vine. Yeah,
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no kidding, no, theye that's such a headliner. Yeah, I
haven't heard anything.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Are the sparks still flying so to speak?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Or what? I haven't seen any sparks and I haven't
walked right in I walked right into it. I mean,
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they don't pay us for no plugs. No, I'm not
saying no, Yeah, no, they definitely do not. Now literally
hasn't been a settlement yet, but maybe there is a
settlement because we haven't heard anything.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
I'll be honest with you, There's there is so much
stuff that comes up in the news. I almost lose
track of it. Like every day somebody's getting caught up
in something. Somebody like was it is it Tyler Perry,
who's the most recent, Like he's getting caught up with something.
There's some scant for really, Yeah, I guess like there's
(02:43):
some some accusations out there on Tyler Perry. You got
the Blake Lively Justin Baldoni stuff which got thrown out
because apparently, uh you know, apparently maybe she uh a
little little misleading on how that whole thing played it.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Just I've seen a little bit on that. That's interesting.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
This is why, this is why though I love doing
sports talk radio, because if you were to do, just
like the news and all the other things that came along. Man,
it's just constant negative, negative, negative, negative negative. Everything's negative.
Everybody's lying. Everything's like a con job or something like that.
(03:25):
With sports, you can put a little grab ass, you know,
some fun stuff to go a little bit.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yeah, it's about to take it too seriously unless it's
something really really bad that happened.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
You know. The you know, member of the Fox Sports
Radio alumni, Tom Looney wants called sports talk radio the
toy asle of broadcasting. It's true, you ain't not worried
about having to buy some cold medicine to make you
feel better. Now you just walking there. You're buying monster
trucks and nerve footballs and all sorts of fun stuff
that's sports. So we get to do or you can
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get caught up in the weeds and see which celebrity
is getting a cute used to be in a scumbag
yet again. I'm surprised that he hasn't given us a
Diddy trial update anyway?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Is that?
Speaker 5 (04:06):
What is that?
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Then they say they rested their case.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
I don't know how you could rest around that guy.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Dang, they said fifteen hours in you know, you barely
get water breaks, tang I've even changed tires in the five.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Let me oh yeah, let me tell you something. I'm
not resting anywhere. I'm closing my eyes near that guy.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Could I get an IVY please? So reidration.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Like that guy in seven, they kept alive the whole time.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
It's like a little of adrenaline. Please.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
I don't want to go to sleep, not next to him.
Speaker 6 (04:52):
I do have some good updates for you for leftovers,
I'll say that.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Okay, so Lee Lee does have some Lee's Leftovers updates here. Well,
we do know this. We've got ourselves a Game seven
left over in the NBA. With the NBA Finals, will
see a Game seven. After the Indiana Pacers rose from
the ashes last night and said, you know what, LeVar Arrington,
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we're gonna I'm not gonna let you shovel during on
us just yet. We're going out there and we're going
to put on a show. And they had a willing
participant in the whole matter, because the Oklahoma City thunder
looked awful, looked awful turning the ball over, and that
game was a complete wipeout almost from start to finish.
And so we get ourselves a Game seven and the
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man of the hour, Tyrese Haliburt, and people wondering whether
or not he was going to come back and whether
or not he was going to be ready to go.
He spoke following the game about the Pacers heading to
Game seven.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
It's about the margins. It's about taking care of the
ball and rebounding. Those the most important things. You know,
you got to control the control the ball, let the
cards fall where they may. You know, it's a one
game series now, and man, we believe, you know, we
got a lot of faith in this group.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
So take care of my body? Is it ready at
the Game seven finals?
Speaker 3 (06:12):
What more can you ask for it?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
And now as it stands, right now, the Oklahoma City
Thunder are eight and a half point favorites in Game seven.
Gut feeling, do you like OKC minus the eight and
a half or you're taking the points with the Indiana Pacers.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I'm gonna take the points with the Pacers. I agree,
I'm gonna take the points.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
With It's a one game situation. You could see something
crazy happen, like Sga gets into foul trouble early and
they've got to sit him for a couple of minutes
because they can't.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Run the risk.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
And then Indiana goes on a run and next thing
you know, they're trailing. And then maybe he can't be
as aggressive going to the hole because he's already got
three four. Just like now you've left everything for chance.
Like now you've opened up the door just a little
bit for Indiana, that a bounce goes here, a miss
cue happens here, and now Indiana's got a real shot
to win this thing. There's a real possibility now to
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where if you're Oklahoma City, you just don't turn the
ball over last night. You know you've got a compromise
player in Tyreese Halliburton. Now he didn't get stretched out.
It wasn't like they had to, you know, play him
until the final whistle because they were trying to win
a tight game. He didn't have to play a whole
bunch of minutes. He's got a few days rest, or
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at least a couple of days rest until that time.
And now he gets ready to go, and you try
and go on the road and do what you've already
done in the series before, which is win in Oklahoma City.
Like to me, everything's on the table in this game,
and I'm just hoping it's tight down the stretch, because
if it's close down the stretch, I feel like, okay,
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see might play a little bit tighter just knowing they
were supposed to win. Nobody gave Indiana chance. When we
were talking about this series from the get go, I
think you and I were on the same page, going, man,
this isn't going to be the wipeout. Everybody thinks it's.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Going to be.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Nobody give Indiana chance. And yet here we are in
a Game seven.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
And the NBA has to be super pumped up in
a static about it because now you can't say this
was a lopsided final. You can't say that this was
no parody. And so you look at both of these
teams and they're teams that could be good for years
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to come because of how young some of these guys
are on these teams. But I think the ultimate to me,
the ultimate storyline here is that it is a Game
seven and that they have really, in a lot of
ways wrapped the storyline around Tyrese Halibert, and I find
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it to be kind of curious and strange for the
simple fact that it was a lot of things a
lot of other elements outside of Halliburton that was the
reason why that game went the way that it went.
I think it's commendable that he got out there, you know,
banged up. But if you're looking at who the catalysts
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of all of this was, I would say in this game,
it's the coach. The coach was the catalyst of this
game because the strategy I believe that they executed against
the OKC thunder was sound. You know, you came into
the topic talking about they played. You know, OKAC was
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careless with the ball, and you know, they they did
things that kind of you would say, again, SGA even
sated at his own admission that they sucked. But when
you take a look at it, if you're breaking it down,
did they suck because they just played bad? Or were
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they forced into the scenarios and the situations that played out?
And I think you got to take your hat off
to the coaching staff because the way they played defense
against Oklahoma it really limited them in the opportunities and
the options that they had. And they also took advantage
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of a deep bench, a very deep bench, which is
interesting because OKC took advantage of their bench too. I
think there was only one player on OKC that didn't score.
Everybody else got points in the game. I just think
that this last game now sets the stage where you
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don't know if David or Goliath is going to win
the fight. You just don't know. And that's the best
scenario that the NBA could have ever hoped or wished for.
In a finals that didn't boast like what we would
consider to be the biggest names or the biggest brands
in the game, the biggest markets and the most historic
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and you know, recognized franchises, that isn't what you had.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I mean you mentioned Rick Carlisle. If it comes down
to coaching and experience in Game seven overwhelmingly favors Rick
Carlisle won an NBA title in twenty eleven with the MAVs,
was the coach there. He's obviously a champion as a
player way back in the eighties when he was with Boston.
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But he's been doing this a long time. He's coached
a lot of playoff games. And you can tell that
we've talked about this before in other sports to where
you know, did he lose the locker room. You can
tell that locker room has full faith in him because
they could have easily walked out last night. Maybe you
know who knows just looked at the situation and been like, hey,
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we'll do our best, but if it gets tight, then
we're gonna No, they didn't. They came out. They were
overwhelmingly the better team. The fact that they're able to
stay in games as opposed to mailing it in, and
all those comebacks they had in previous series and all
the big shots and all that. Like, Rick Carlile's done
a masterful job with the team, and he's been speaking
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about this team even going back to last year to
where it look when they got swept in the Eastern
Conference Finals by the Celtics. Anybody who watched that series
realized and that was a lot closer than people want
to give Indiana credit for. They lost a close game
early in the series, a game they probably should have won,
and then Boston ultimately ran with it. Rick Carlile had
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that team bounce back this year. They were a much
better team down the stretch of the season. They got
on a roll. They're a problem and so if it
comes down to a couple of things coaching wise, late
in that game, you gotta favor the guy who's got
the experience, and that would be Rick Carlile. You have
at this point.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I think it's great reasoning, it sound reasoning, and I
think that that could be an advantage that Indiana has
going into the game. Obviously, it's been made mentioned of
in the show and probably a ton of times that
it is a home game for OKAC, So there's the
idea having the friendly confines of being at home. But
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if I were to say, coming out of Last name
A last night's game, the probability of OKAC recovering from
the game last night, I don't know that it's a
high percentage because it's the way Indiana played the game
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last night. It's like it was a momentum grab, an
unexpected momentum. It's almost like it's almost like if you
you sain Bolt is running to two hundred meters and
and Oka se is you saying boat and they get
out there and they know that they're superior physically to
everybody else that's in the field, and you're running and
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at some point you're like, oh, I got this, like
I'm gonna win, and you're rounding that corner for the
last one hundred meters of the race and somebody comes
in your periphery and they're they're they're going so fast
and they're eating up so much, so much track and
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so much distance that you can't even really comprehend or
measure why it's happening, And before you know it, they
done ran up on you and you don't have the
ability to be able to hold them off. And I
just wonder if that happened last evening, because if you're
talking about saving your best effort, you gotta believe the
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pacers saved their best effort for last night to keep
the series alive. Is it a situation where Usain sees
it and can adjust to it and still win the
race even though you lost the lead that you had,
or is it one of those things where you couldn't
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you couldn't match it when the kick came in. The
kick was too good, that got in front of you,
and now you couldn't you couldn't finish the race.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Isn't that?
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Is this a situation where okay, see can't finish the race?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Isn't that kind of what happened with Shorn the cops.
He was trying to get away. But I don't know
if that last kick. If he was trying to get away,
they would have arrested him, I would assume. But with
that being said, I don't know, because there is a
girlfriend that that's out there. She's right beside him, but
they're not right beside each other. But they're parked on
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the side of the road. Now she's getting warning, he's
getting a citation. I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
This is the perfect comparable to what's going on in
the NBA Playoffs.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Here's what I would say. Look, I think we all
agree Game seven in the in the NBA Playoffs, in
the NBA Finals is exactly what everybody wants. It's going
to be featured on Sunday Night, and it's going to
be the ratings are going to be great. Everyone's going
to be enthralled by Game seven. I could almost assure
you that steven A. Smith's not going to be playing
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back a rat or whatever he was playing on his
phone while that game is going Solitaire, Hey, he won't
even be playing. That could be the the the iPhone
version of Clue, all right, He who cares about Colonel Mustard.
Steven A is going to be locked in on the
Pacers and the Thunder for game seven in the NBA Finals.
But I'd like to point this out. It's taking a
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little bit too long. The NBA playoffs started before Easter.
What the f are we doing? Like literally, like why
is it so long? It's just too much? Whoa whoa,
Like no, yeah, just the playoffs, the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Okay, LeVar, but said like you're talking about the NBAQO.
My bad, my bad, my bad.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
The playing tournaments started April fifteenth. It shouldn't take this long,
Like we're almost in fourth of July, and this is
But it's.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
The most interesting. It's the most interesting part of the season.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
But you could have gotten here quick.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
The end season tournament not so much. Nice. Try, the
regular season not so much. No try. The playoffs is
the most it's the most entertaining. It's the most interesting
aspect of the season. So drag it out.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
You could have gotten here longer, or you could have
gotten here quicker.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
It just dragged it on out. I mean the amount
of days in between, Like, Okay, they won yesterday, play tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Yes, they don't want to do they didn't want to
do that. They want to they want to max it out.
For what max it out?
Speaker 1 (18:09):
I don't know how Like you're not competing against anything
right now really for the most part. I mean, there's
there's soccer tournaments going on, there's baseball, there's all that.
There's you're not, so what do you Why are you
trying to space this out even more to create discussion?
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Duration of time? You know, duration of time, that's all
this is.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
But this is the problem. This is why if every
round is a seven game series and you've got to
play in tournament, it drags on and on and on.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Like, I mean, that's a long ass playoff. There's no
doubt about it. If you were long ass playoffs.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
If I were to tell you Easter Sunday, you're you're on,
You're unwrapping a Cadbury egg, and I'd be like, by
the way, these games they won't be over until late June.
You'd be like, yeah, whatever, No, no, no, seriously, We've
now talked about Joey Chestnut returning for the Hot Dog
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Eating Contest in the time that it's taken the NBA
to finish their effing playoffs. Get it together, state it up,
making a five game series. One, wrap it up, between
let's go, I'm to wrap it up. Come on man,
let's go.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
End of the segment, wrap it up under lay, we
ain't gonna stop. Take that, Take that, Take that, Oh oh,
I bet.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
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yours here again a little less than twenty minutes from now.
We're talking celebrity updates here. Make sure you stick around
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for that. So there is maybe a little bit of
a problem going on in Seattle now. This is you know,
there's just been some reports that have come out of
you know, Seahawks mini camp and whatnot, that maybe Sam
Darnold has struggled a little bit, you know, you struggled again.
This is you know, mini camp, these are OTAs, these
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are we're not even at training camp. And some people
have said, eh it, it hasn't looked.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
All that great.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
He's trying to get adjusted to a new new place,
new system, the new teammates, all of that. And then
there was the report that came out from Mike Silver
of The Athletic who said the following quote, The Seahawks
pursuit of Sam Darnald snuck up on many NFL observers
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and proceeded in rapid fire fashion. While some believed the
Las Vegas Raiders would try to sign Donald, minority owner
Tom Brady, a seven time Super Bowl winning quarterback whose
opinion held great Sway, was not in favor of that approach.
According to a source familiar with the franchise's internal discussions.
So basically, oh man, the Raiders chose the player the
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Seahawks didn't want anymore, and the Seahawks chose the player
the Raiders didn't want.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
So this is a if they were aware of this,
I mean, at least that who Tom Brady didn't want.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Look, we kind of throughout the question what's really the
difference between Geno Smith and Sam Donald? And if you
had to go by a body of work, who's done
it more?
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Smith has done more.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Total totally agree, and.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
You don't really know what you're going to get from
Sam Donald because there's not enough of a sample size.
And that's just reality. Great, great one season run and
really show that being able to pull it together at
the right time can lead to opportunities, but that does
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not necessarily mean that you've crossed the threshold of being
you know what, that what that positive season represented to
the entirety of your career. He's gotta he's got to
go into Seattle knowing that if he you know, if
if what he hasn't done already isn't enough for him
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to be okay with himself as a career, He's got
to put together at least one to two more seasons
before you can He's got to put together this season.
Let's start there, before you can say he is a
legitimate good football player in the National Football League like
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it's stamped. Because he was able to do it two
years in a row. Anything after two years in a row.
It's okay, they've established themselves and this is the standard
we've come to expect. This is the sample size. And
now you've earned whatever it is that you get accolades wise,
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whatever the conversations are, as it applies to your contract,
whatever it may be, those are now conversations that are
more comfortable to have versus filling some type of trepidation
as it applies to how you feel and how you
say things about that player in particular in this in
this case it's Sam Donald. You don't know what you're
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gonna get, like as much as you may think you
can put together the pieces and say this is the
type of performances you're gonna get from Sam Donald in Seattle.
Sam Donald might have been able to pull together one
good season for a lot of good reasons. There's a
lot of weapons where he just came from and a
hell of a play caller. Does that mean that he
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can do it again? Maybe? Does it mean that he
was able to leverage that to get a nice little payday? Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (24:38):
And I just wonder, I wonder if the fact that
Tom Brady's the guy who basically said, yeah, I don't
think that's a good approach. I just wonder if that's because, look,
it was early in Sam Donald's career, it was his
rookie season. Brady played him a couple of times. I
wonder if that there's either that that he sees and
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says that's not the right approach for us, or if
his feeling is, Look, Sam Donald excelled last year for
the most part because of what he had around him.
He's not going to have that same supporting cast around
him here. This doesn't make a lot of sense for
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us to go this direction and Smith. But but I
would know, But I I think that there it. This
would tell me, This would indicate to me that they
believe more in Geno Smith's ability to lead that team
and have success than they do Sam Donald's. Because the
difference in the contracts is not you know, off the
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top of my head, I think it's right around the same,
Like there's not there's not a huge difference in the
money that's out there and the money.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Maybe Sam Donald won it more. I don't. I don't know,
this is what I do know. What I do know
is that Geno Smith is going to face a very
difficult season. He's going to to I mean he's gonna
have a hard time having a successful season as it
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stands so far with what the Las Vegas Raiders are.
Is it possible it's possible that that Seattle is personnel
wise a better team right now than the Las Vegas Raiders.
I mean, I don't know, maybe close in comp now.
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I will say this, the one thing that's really truly
working against Geno Smith is the division that he's in.
It's an unforgiving division, and if you're not up to snuff,
it's going to show.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
But wouldn't that lead also then to why maybe that
was part of the thinking as well too? Who gives
us a better shot in this gunslinger division? Sam Darnold
or Gino Smith like that?
Speaker 2 (27:06):
I just think there's question marks on both of them,
don't I agree that. I don't know that. To be
honest with you, I don't know that there is a
lesser evil between the situation. For the simple fact, all
I'll say is, yes, Gino Smith has more experience, He's
played more, he has a larger body of work, and
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he has done some pretty good things in Seattle. But
with that being said, again, I still think that there
are question marks in terms of is Geno Smith. I
went and labeled Geno Smith a top tier quarterback that
could take a team to the super Bowl. And whether
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that's fear or unfair, I'm just basing that off of
what I've seen thus far in his career and whether
it's the franchise that he started with being reason why,
whatever it is that has led to him being in
the category he's in right now. He's not far removed
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from the same category as Sam Donald. And so to me,
when you have these conversations like Tom Brady was out
on Sam Donald and you were in on Geno Smith,
you know what I mean, Like, damn, unless Geno Smith
has a phenomenal year, a story like this pops back
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up and then you could sit there and be like, well,
what does Tom Brady know about player decisions with as
it applies to coming to a team. Because to me,
when you start inserting Tom into the conversations as to
what decisions were taking place and how decisions have been made,
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then now you got to ultimately judge him based off
of the results that take place from hearing about what
those decisions were.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Now, I would say this, and I've thrown out this
idea before, but of course it was dismissed because you know,
the disrespect that I'm shown on this show and at
this network is just revolting. But I've I've mentioned that
they should know, they.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Should disrespect is good.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
They should know, they should know that there there needs
to be one game on every NFL team schedule that's
open for some switching out, if you will some some juggling,
if you will switch hitt and and not even from
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a standpoint, well it can be flexed out to this
night or no, no, no, no, I mean an entirely
different matchup. When these two moves were made, somebody should
have stepped in and said, Raider Seahawks, get it somewhere
on the schedule, somewhere on the schedule. We need this
to happen. We want storylines, we want juice. That's the
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NFL's next evolution in adjusting their schedule for entertainment purposes,
only if they want to do it now. These two
teams are going to meet in the preseason, but it's
the preseason game. I'd love to see Pete Carroll have
his starters in until midway through the fourth quarter, just
to see what happens. I would love to see that
but all of the backstory. Now this added in that
(30:23):
Tom Brady said no to Sam Donald, but they traded
for Geno Smith. Sam Donald's now in Seattle. You've got
Pete Carroll and Gino Smith former Seahawks who are now
in Las Vegas. The NFL needs to step in, get
a pair of balls and say, you know what, broadcasting partners,
fan bases, you're going to need to have to wait
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a little bit. We're going to open it up for
one game on the schedule each year for each team
that we decide after all the moves have been made
where these teams are going to be meeting up and
where they play. Because I would love to see Raider
Seahawks in the regular season. Anything about that, Levarrington.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
I mean, it's a creative way of being able to
approach your matchups and you can get more. You know,
I think the key to growing your audiences in this
day and age is fan interaction, you know, the engagement
and being able to engage in these types of conversations,
holding polls, getting feedback, you know, them having creative input
(31:27):
on different things such as this, like follow the storyline.
They always say, follow the storyline, and if the storyline
is giving you something like this. There's again, I mean
you were able to they were able to do that
with Peyton and Tom Brady. Yeah, you know so, I
mean I don't see there being any issue with with
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that being something that you would work to try to
get to or to actually implement, where you can say,
even if it's not a team that is in the
division you're supposed to play out of division, we still
want to make this a game because the storyline connected
to it is super compelling and it would deliver in
(32:12):
terms of, you know, the build up to the game. Yeah,
I mean, I just think think it's it's I think
it's Yeah, I think it's a good deal.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
There's there's a lot. I mean, just think about what
you can do in Cleveland, Like you could have the
you could have the Browns face the highway patrol in
like week three, you know if your door might be
starting by then so you can see that whole, you
know part, or.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Just hold a scrimmage all together during training camp. Don't
the don't the policemen don't they have uh, don't they
have their own football teams? I believe I believe they
have football teams.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
So Ohio State Troopers versus versus the Browns, the practice
the practice team, the scout team.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Fair enough, bam, all right, no whistles. You get two
extra steps to the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Winner gets to pick the speed limit. All right, ten,
A thing's on the line.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
I mean people will watch that as state. Would you
telling me you went watch that? I'd be all in
that or a w NBA game if they may. You got,
I'm taking. I'm taking seeing if these cats is gonna win. Yes,
I'm telling you. And for what is work? What it's work,
I'd pay for that. I go on pay per view
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to see if Cleveland's practice. How please this practice squad
did against the State Troopers.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
I mean you mentioned the coverage that would get. I
mean everybody'd be there, Fox, Barrett.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Don't everybody donate the proceeds to the State Troopers? Where
you go?
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Maam Barrett Sports two pros and a cup of Joe
here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Probably write something very nice about for Arrington.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Jonas knocks with you. Coming up next on this Football Friday,
we are going to have a very special edition of
Lee's Left because le has promised us he has sworn
on the air under oath that he has got major updates,
major celebrity updates, and they're yours right here on FSR.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here. We'll be back
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of the NBA Finals, news and notes from around the NFL.
We'll have our FSR ir as well too. Again, that'll
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Speaker 3 (35:07):
These might smell a little funk. That sounds incredible, but
they're still good. Time to find out what's Lap's Lee's lap?
Speaker 1 (35:17):
All right to lap? What do we got?
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Well?
Speaker 4 (35:18):
First things first, before we get to the juicy story
out there, is that it's a happy first day of summer,
June twentieth, which also happens to be a fiftieth birthday
to the one and only Bruce Bruce, of course, being
the name of the animatronic shark that did star in
the movie Jaws, which released fifty years ago today. All right,
and I know, uh, some people are gonna be going
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off to Universal Studios today.
Speaker 6 (35:41):
Go celebrate with Bruce himself.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Uh yeah, he's still there. Yeah, in the same place.
I mean, there you go.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Where does that? Where does that rank for all time
movies for you?
Speaker 5 (35:55):
LeVar?
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Is that a top ten or Joss Jaws?
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Uh? I wouldn't say top ten, but it's up there.
What's it's up there?
Speaker 1 (36:05):
What's the IMDb or the rotten avocados on that?
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Lad?
Speaker 6 (36:10):
I think it's ninety six or ninety seven percent. I
saw it the other day.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
It's a great movie, great music.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Which one is your favorite? The first or of course
the first one? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (36:21):
The others are terrible.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Oh okay, oh okay.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
They're worth a hate watch, but yeah, they're no good.
There's no good shark. Well, the best other shark movie
is probably what Deep Deep Blue.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Nothing's close.
Speaker 6 (36:35):
Nothing's close ninety seven percent, by the way, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Nothing is closed. It's the best Jaws, the best.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
What else we got.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
If you're looking for another movie to see this week,
twenty eight years later. I saw it yesterday, fantastic third
installment of the twenty eight Days Later franchise.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
That movie like twenty years old.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
Uh correct, Yeah, I think it's about twenty two years old. Yeah,
this is twenty eight years Of course, there was twenty
eight days then twenty eight weeks later, now twenty eight
years later.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
By the way, twenty eight years also the same amount
of time between Game six and seven in the NBA Finals.
Go one way to go, all right?
Speaker 4 (37:12):
But yeah, if you're looking for a movie to see
this weekend, see twenty eight years later.
Speaker 6 (37:15):
Or if you're going with the kiddos, go see Ilo here.
That's good.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
I might go catch that latest Pixar films. Yeah, go see,
I'll go see it without the kids. It's a Pixar film,
So you know it's always going to.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Deliver what you take.
Speaker 6 (37:26):
I ain't taking the kids, chop off the kids at
the poor moor.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Had you I fell off that truck?
Speaker 2 (37:39):
I he is about.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Lost my step, lost your step?
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Misstep?
Speaker 1 (37:48):
You know you gotta be gotta be careful on those
parade floats. Everybody careful out there steep landing.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Especially when choosing your costume for the parade.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Right, yeah, what else we got?
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Guys?
Speaker 6 (38:08):
You asked, and I'll deliver.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
The reason I haven't given a Diddy update lately is
because after a brief adjunction due to juror illness and
another jur kicked off due to inconsistencies, so it was
delayed for a bit. Day twenty sixth of testimony in
the Diddy trial will resume today Friday morning, with his
former assistant Brendan Paul expected to take this take the
stand before.
Speaker 6 (38:31):
Yeah that today.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Also of note in this exotic dancer known as the Punisher,
testified in court about the twelve times he was over
at did he freak off? Than that he was paid
eight hundred dollars per event, which sometimes was like a
four day event, but has said that he has horrified
that the videos are being shown to the jurors, and
that he fears that they might make it to the
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public someday.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
And he's the punisher, Yeah, the punisher. Why did they
call him that?
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Yeah? Lee, Lee? Why did they call him the punisher? Uh?
Speaker 6 (39:05):
You know, I will do a deep dive into the
punisher's Uh whoa former?
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (39:12):
Lee told me that. Lee till told me they called
him to punish him during the break and I don't
know what that meant. I'm still trying to figure out
what you mean, Dang Dan, That's just very confusing the
way you talk sometimes during breaks. So what was it
was he? Is he an exotic dancer? Is he?
Speaker 6 (39:31):
Yes? He was a former exotic dancer. He says that
life is far behind him.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
These were events that took place in twenty twelve and
that he's tried to move on with his life and
that this he's going through a hard time reliving night everything.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
But what is he doing now for work?
Speaker 2 (39:44):
You know?
Speaker 1 (39:44):
It doesn't say, I mean, what the hell of a resume?
Speaker 2 (39:49):
I wonder what he's He's concerned about them saying what
was he? Horridor fat? Horror fat about him?
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Right?
Speaker 4 (39:56):
Well, this did go all the way beyond exotic dancing.
He was uh had to sleep with Miss Ventura during
the what if You What if You.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Fight out the Punisher works like the lawn and Garden
at Ace Hardware, one of his coworkers like, it's a hue,
it's a previous light. Don't worry.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
I think he's guilty. Guilty. You think he's gonna get
guilty on.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
Some of the stuff, not everything, alleged racketeering, sex trafficking
and other.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Seriously, how many do you need before you're like, all right,
he's gonna go away for.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
A little while. Oh no, man, I think I think
he's gonna walk. I don't think he's gonna walk. That's
my that's my call.
Speaker 6 (40:33):
Have a great week, handy summer
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
Let's give this.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yeah? Yeah, is this another cue? This is another cube request?
It's another Cube request.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
I don't think so. Who did this one? I think
this is a Ricky special?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Who it's accurate? I'll say that.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I want you to use me when you got that
big old butt. Oh my god, tell them, sir, mix
a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
You guys got problems, man, like you got real get help. Oooh.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I had nothing to do with this, even though I
like Baby with back. Yeah yeah yeah, shake it, shake it,
baby got back? Oh my god, it is hey, speaking
of baby got back? What's the latest on said? It's
sharp that thing seemed to die on the vine. Yeah,
(01:39):
no kidding, no, theye that's such a headliner. Yeah, I
haven't heard anything.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Are the sparks still flying so to speak?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Or what? I haven't seen any sparks and I haven't
walked right in I walked right into it. I mean,
(02:08):
they don't pay us for no plugs. No, I'm not
saying no, Yeah, no, they definitely do not. Now literally
hasn't been a settlement yet, but maybe there is a
settlement because we haven't heard anything.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
I'll be honest with you, There's there is so much
stuff that comes up in the news. I almost lose
track of it. Like every day somebody's getting caught up
in something. Somebody like was it is it Tyler Perry,
who's the most recent, Like he's getting caught up with something.
There's some scant for really, Yeah, I guess like there's
(02:43):
some some accusations out there on Tyler Perry. You got
the Blake Lively Justin Baldoni stuff which got thrown out
because apparently, uh you know, apparently maybe she uh a
little little misleading on how that whole thing played it.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Just I've seen a little bit on that. That's interesting.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
This is why, this is why though I love doing
sports talk radio, because if you were to do, just
like the news and all the other things that came along. Man,
it's just constant negative, negative, negative, negative negative. Everything's negative.
Everybody's lying. Everything's like a con job or something like that.
(03:25):
With sports, you can put a little grab ass, you know,
some fun stuff to go a little bit.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yeah, it's about to take it too seriously unless it's
something really really bad that happened.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
You know. The you know, member of the Fox Sports
Radio alumni, Tom Looney wants called sports talk radio the
toy asle of broadcasting. It's true, you ain't not worried
about having to buy some cold medicine to make you
feel better. Now you just walking there. You're buying monster
trucks and nerve footballs and all sorts of fun stuff
that's sports. So we get to do or you can
(03:56):
get caught up in the weeds and see which celebrity
is getting a cute used to be in a scumbag
yet again. I'm surprised that he hasn't given us a
Diddy trial update anyway?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Is that?
Speaker 5 (04:06):
What is that?
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Then they say they rested their case.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
I don't know how you could rest around that guy.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Dang, they said fifteen hours in you know, you barely
get water breaks, tang I've even changed tires in the five.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Let me oh yeah, let me tell you something. I'm
not resting anywhere. I'm closing my eyes near that guy.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Could I get an IVY please? So reidration.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Like that guy in seven, they kept alive the whole time.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
It's like a little of adrenaline. Please.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
I don't want to go to sleep, not next to him.
Speaker 6 (04:52):
I do have some good updates for you for leftovers,
I'll say that.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Okay, so Lee Lee does have some Lee's Leftovers updates here. Well,
we do know this. We've got ourselves a Game seven
left over in the NBA. With the NBA Finals, will
see a Game seven. After the Indiana Pacers rose from
the ashes last night and said, you know what, LeVar Arrington,
(05:16):
we're gonna I'm not gonna let you shovel during on
us just yet. We're going out there and we're going
to put on a show. And they had a willing
participant in the whole matter, because the Oklahoma City thunder
looked awful, looked awful turning the ball over, and that
game was a complete wipeout almost from start to finish.
And so we get ourselves a Game seven and the
(05:38):
man of the hour, Tyrese Haliburt, and people wondering whether
or not he was going to come back and whether
or not he was going to be ready to go.
He spoke following the game about the Pacers heading to
Game seven.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
It's about the margins. It's about taking care of the
ball and rebounding. Those the most important things. You know,
you got to control the control the ball, let the
cards fall where they may. You know, it's a one
game series now, and man, we believe, you know, we
got a lot of faith in this group.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
So take care of my body? Is it ready at
the Game seven finals?
Speaker 3 (06:12):
What more can you ask for it?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
And now as it stands, right now, the Oklahoma City
Thunder are eight and a half point favorites in Game seven.
Gut feeling, do you like OKC minus the eight and
a half or you're taking the points with the Indiana Pacers.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I'm gonna take the points with the Pacers. I agree,
I'm gonna take the points.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
With It's a one game situation. You could see something
crazy happen, like Sga gets into foul trouble early and
they've got to sit him for a couple of minutes
because they can't.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Run the risk.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
And then Indiana goes on a run and next thing
you know, they're trailing. And then maybe he can't be
as aggressive going to the hole because he's already got
three four. Just like now you've left everything for chance.
Like now you've opened up the door just a little
bit for Indiana, that a bounce goes here, a miss
cue happens here, and now Indiana's got a real shot
to win this thing. There's a real possibility now to
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where if you're Oklahoma City, you just don't turn the
ball over last night. You know you've got a compromise
player in Tyreese Halliburton. Now he didn't get stretched out.
It wasn't like they had to, you know, play him
until the final whistle because they were trying to win
a tight game. He didn't have to play a whole
bunch of minutes. He's got a few days rest, or
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at least a couple of days rest until that time.
And now he gets ready to go, and you try
and go on the road and do what you've already
done in the series before, which is win in Oklahoma City.
Like to me, everything's on the table in this game,
and I'm just hoping it's tight down the stretch, because
if it's close down the stretch, I feel like, okay,
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see might play a little bit tighter just knowing they
were supposed to win. Nobody gave Indiana chance. When we
were talking about this series from the get go, I
think you and I were on the same page, going, man,
this isn't going to be the wipeout. Everybody thinks it's.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Going to be.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Nobody give Indiana chance. And yet here we are in
a Game seven.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
And the NBA has to be super pumped up in
a static about it because now you can't say this
was a lopsided final. You can't say that this was
no parody. And so you look at both of these
teams and they're teams that could be good for years
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to come because of how young some of these guys
are on these teams. But I think the ultimate to me,
the ultimate storyline here is that it is a Game
seven and that they have really, in a lot of
ways wrapped the storyline around Tyrese Halibert, and I find
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it to be kind of curious and strange for the
simple fact that it was a lot of things a
lot of other elements outside of Halliburton that was the
reason why that game went the way that it went.
I think it's commendable that he got out there, you know,
banged up. But if you're looking at who the catalysts
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of all of this was, I would say in this game,
it's the coach. The coach was the catalyst of this
game because the strategy I believe that they executed against
the OKC thunder was sound. You know, you came into
the topic talking about they played. You know, OKAC was
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careless with the ball, and you know, they they did
things that kind of you would say, again, SGA even
sated at his own admission that they sucked. But when
you take a look at it, if you're breaking it down,
did they suck because they just played bad? Or were
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they forced into the scenarios and the situations that played out?
And I think you got to take your hat off
to the coaching staff because the way they played defense
against Oklahoma it really limited them in the opportunities and
the options that they had. And they also took advantage
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of a deep bench, a very deep bench, which is
interesting because OKC took advantage of their bench too. I
think there was only one player on OKC that didn't score.
Everybody else got points in the game. I just think
that this last game now sets the stage where you
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don't know if David or Goliath is going to win
the fight. You just don't know. And that's the best
scenario that the NBA could have ever hoped or wished for.
In a finals that didn't boast like what we would
consider to be the biggest names or the biggest brands
in the game, the biggest markets and the most historic
(11:13):
and you know, recognized franchises, that isn't what you had.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I mean you mentioned Rick Carlisle. If it comes down
to coaching and experience in Game seven overwhelmingly favors Rick
Carlisle won an NBA title in twenty eleven with the MAVs,
was the coach there. He's obviously a champion as a
player way back in the eighties when he was with Boston.
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But he's been doing this a long time. He's coached
a lot of playoff games. And you can tell that
we've talked about this before in other sports to where
you know, did he lose the locker room. You can
tell that locker room has full faith in him because
they could have easily walked out last night. Maybe you
know who knows just looked at the situation and been like, hey,
(12:01):
we'll do our best, but if it gets tight, then
we're gonna No, they didn't. They came out. They were
overwhelmingly the better team. The fact that they're able to
stay in games as opposed to mailing it in, and
all those comebacks they had in previous series and all
the big shots and all that. Like, Rick Carlile's done
a masterful job with the team, and he's been speaking
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about this team even going back to last year to
where it look when they got swept in the Eastern
Conference Finals by the Celtics. Anybody who watched that series
realized and that was a lot closer than people want
to give Indiana credit for. They lost a close game
early in the series, a game they probably should have won,
and then Boston ultimately ran with it. Rick Carlile had
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that team bounce back this year. They were a much
better team down the stretch of the season. They got
on a roll. They're a problem and so if it
comes down to a couple of things coaching wise, late
in that game, you gotta favor the guy who's got
the experience, and that would be Rick Carlile. You have
at this point.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I think it's great reasoning, it sound reasoning, and I
think that that could be an advantage that Indiana has
going into the game. Obviously, it's been made mentioned of
in the show and probably a ton of times that
it is a home game for OKAC, So there's the
idea having the friendly confines of being at home. But
(13:25):
if I were to say, coming out of Last name
A last night's game, the probability of OKAC recovering from
the game last night, I don't know that it's a
high percentage because it's the way Indiana played the game
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last night. It's like it was a momentum grab, an
unexpected momentum. It's almost like it's almost like if you
you sain Bolt is running to two hundred meters and
and Oka se is you saying boat and they get
out there and they know that they're superior physically to
everybody else that's in the field, and you're running and
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at some point you're like, oh, I got this, like
I'm gonna win, and you're rounding that corner for the
last one hundred meters of the race and somebody comes
in your periphery and they're they're they're going so fast
and they're eating up so much, so much track and
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so much distance that you can't even really comprehend or
measure why it's happening, And before you know it, they
done ran up on you and you don't have the
ability to be able to hold them off. And I
just wonder if that happened last evening, because if you're
talking about saving your best effort, you gotta believe the
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pacers saved their best effort for last night to keep
the series alive. Is it a situation where Usain sees
it and can adjust to it and still win the
race even though you lost the lead that you had,
or is it one of those things where you couldn't
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you couldn't match it when the kick came in. The
kick was too good, that got in front of you,
and now you couldn't you couldn't finish the race.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Isn't that?
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Is this a situation where okay, see can't finish the race?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Isn't that kind of what happened with Shorn the cops.
He was trying to get away. But I don't know
if that last kick. If he was trying to get away,
they would have arrested him, I would assume. But with
that being said, I don't know, because there is a
girlfriend that that's out there. She's right beside him, but
they're not right beside each other. But they're parked on
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the side of the road. Now she's getting warning, he's
getting a citation. I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
This is the perfect comparable to what's going on in
the NBA Playoffs.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Here's what I would say. Look, I think we all
agree Game seven in the in the NBA Playoffs, in
the NBA Finals is exactly what everybody wants. It's going
to be featured on Sunday Night, and it's going to
be the ratings are going to be great. Everyone's going
to be enthralled by Game seven. I could almost assure
you that steven A. Smith's not going to be playing
(16:20):
back a rat or whatever he was playing on his
phone while that game is going Solitaire, Hey, he won't
even be playing. That could be the the the iPhone
version of Clue, all right, He who cares about Colonel Mustard.
Steven A is going to be locked in on the
Pacers and the Thunder for game seven in the NBA Finals.
But I'd like to point this out. It's taking a
(16:42):
little bit too long. The NBA playoffs started before Easter.
What the f are we doing? Like literally, like why
is it so long? It's just too much? Whoa whoa,
Like no, yeah, just the playoffs, the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Okay, LeVar, but said like you're talking about the NBAQO.
My bad, my bad, my bad.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
The playing tournaments started April fifteenth. It shouldn't take this long,
Like we're almost in fourth of July, and this is
But it's.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
The most interesting. It's the most interesting part of the season.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
But you could have gotten here quick.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
The end season tournament not so much. Nice. Try, the
regular season not so much. No try. The playoffs is
the most it's the most entertaining. It's the most interesting
aspect of the season. So drag it out.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
You could have gotten here longer, or you could have
gotten here quicker.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
It just dragged it on out. I mean the amount
of days in between, Like, Okay, they won yesterday, play tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Yes, they don't want to do they didn't want to
do that. They want to they want to max it out.
For what max it out?
Speaker 1 (18:09):
I don't know how Like you're not competing against anything
right now really for the most part. I mean, there's
there's soccer tournaments going on, there's baseball, there's all that.
There's you're not, so what do you Why are you
trying to space this out even more to create discussion?
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Duration of time? You know, duration of time, that's all
this is.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
But this is the problem. This is why if every
round is a seven game series and you've got to
play in tournament, it drags on and on and on.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Like, I mean, that's a long ass playoff. There's no
doubt about it. If you were long ass playoffs.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
If I were to tell you Easter Sunday, you're you're on,
You're unwrapping a Cadbury egg, and I'd be like, by
the way, these games they won't be over until late June.
You'd be like, yeah, whatever, No, no, no, seriously, We've
now talked about Joey Chestnut returning for the Hot Dog
(19:09):
Eating Contest in the time that it's taken the NBA
to finish their effing playoffs. Get it together, state it up,
making a five game series. One, wrap it up, between
let's go, I'm to wrap it up. Come on man,
let's go.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
End of the segment, wrap it up under lay, we
ain't gonna stop. Take that, Take that, Take that, Oh oh,
I bet.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
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Speaker 1 (20:09):
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LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here coming up in
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We're talking celebrity updates here. Make sure you stick around
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for that. So there is maybe a little bit of
a problem going on in Seattle now. This is you know,
there's just been some reports that have come out of
you know, Seahawks mini camp and whatnot, that maybe Sam
Darnold has struggled a little bit, you know, you struggled again.
This is you know, mini camp, these are OTAs, these
(20:51):
are we're not even at training camp. And some people
have said, eh it, it hasn't looked.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
All that great.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
He's trying to get adjusted to a new new place,
new system, the new teammates, all of that. And then
there was the report that came out from Mike Silver
of The Athletic who said the following quote, The Seahawks
pursuit of Sam Darnald snuck up on many NFL observers
(21:17):
and proceeded in rapid fire fashion. While some believed the
Las Vegas Raiders would try to sign Donald, minority owner
Tom Brady, a seven time Super Bowl winning quarterback whose
opinion held great Sway, was not in favor of that approach.
According to a source familiar with the franchise's internal discussions.
So basically, oh man, the Raiders chose the player the
(21:44):
Seahawks didn't want anymore, and the Seahawks chose the player
the Raiders didn't want.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
So this is a if they were aware of this,
I mean, at least that who Tom Brady didn't want.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Look, we kind of throughout the question what's really the
difference between Geno Smith and Sam Donald? And if you
had to go by a body of work, who's done
it more?
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Smith has done more.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Total totally agree, and.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
You don't really know what you're going to get from
Sam Donald because there's not enough of a sample size.
And that's just reality. Great, great one season run and
really show that being able to pull it together at
the right time can lead to opportunities, but that does
(22:40):
not necessarily mean that you've crossed the threshold of being
you know what, that what that positive season represented to
the entirety of your career. He's gotta he's got to
go into Seattle knowing that if he you know, if
if what he hasn't done already isn't enough for him
(23:02):
to be okay with himself as a career, He's got
to put together at least one to two more seasons
before you can He's got to put together this season.
Let's start there, before you can say he is a
legitimate good football player in the National Football League like
(23:24):
it's stamped. Because he was able to do it two
years in a row. Anything after two years in a row.
It's okay, they've established themselves and this is the standard
we've come to expect. This is the sample size. And
now you've earned whatever it is that you get accolades wise,
(23:46):
whatever the conversations are, as it applies to your contract,
whatever it may be, those are now conversations that are
more comfortable to have versus filling some type of trepidation
as it applies to how you feel and how you
say things about that player in particular in this in
this case it's Sam Donald. You don't know what you're
(24:08):
gonna get, like as much as you may think you
can put together the pieces and say this is the
type of performances you're gonna get from Sam Donald in Seattle.
Sam Donald might have been able to pull together one
good season for a lot of good reasons. There's a
lot of weapons where he just came from and a
hell of a play caller. Does that mean that he
(24:32):
can do it again? Maybe? Does it mean that he
was able to leverage that to get a nice little payday? Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (24:38):
And I just wonder, I wonder if the fact that
Tom Brady's the guy who basically said, yeah, I don't
think that's a good approach. I just wonder if that's because, look,
it was early in Sam Donald's career, it was his
rookie season. Brady played him a couple of times. I
wonder if that there's either that that he sees and
(25:01):
says that's not the right approach for us, or if
his feeling is, Look, Sam Donald excelled last year for
the most part because of what he had around him.
He's not going to have that same supporting cast around
him here. This doesn't make a lot of sense for
(25:21):
us to go this direction and Smith. But but I
would know, But I I think that there it. This
would tell me, This would indicate to me that they
believe more in Geno Smith's ability to lead that team
and have success than they do Sam Donald's. Because the
difference in the contracts is not you know, off the
(25:44):
top of my head, I think it's right around the same,
Like there's not there's not a huge difference in the
money that's out there and the money.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Maybe Sam Donald won it more. I don't. I don't know,
this is what I do know. What I do know
is that Geno Smith is going to face a very
difficult season. He's going to to I mean he's gonna
have a hard time having a successful season as it
(26:15):
stands so far with what the Las Vegas Raiders are.
Is it possible it's possible that that Seattle is personnel
wise a better team right now than the Las Vegas Raiders.
I mean, I don't know, maybe close in comp now.
(26:38):
I will say this, the one thing that's really truly
working against Geno Smith is the division that he's in.
It's an unforgiving division, and if you're not up to snuff,
it's going to show.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
But wouldn't that lead also then to why maybe that
was part of the thinking as well too? Who gives
us a better shot in this gunslinger division? Sam Darnold
or Gino Smith like that?
Speaker 2 (27:06):
I just think there's question marks on both of them,
don't I agree that. I don't know that. To be
honest with you, I don't know that there is a
lesser evil between the situation. For the simple fact, all
I'll say is, yes, Gino Smith has more experience, He's
played more, he has a larger body of work, and
(27:26):
he has done some pretty good things in Seattle. But
with that being said, again, I still think that there
are question marks in terms of is Geno Smith. I
went and labeled Geno Smith a top tier quarterback that
could take a team to the super Bowl. And whether
(27:48):
that's fear or unfair, I'm just basing that off of
what I've seen thus far in his career and whether
it's the franchise that he started with being reason why,
whatever it is that has led to him being in
the category he's in right now. He's not far removed
(28:09):
from the same category as Sam Donald. And so to me,
when you have these conversations like Tom Brady was out
on Sam Donald and you were in on Geno Smith,
you know what I mean, Like, damn, unless Geno Smith
has a phenomenal year, a story like this pops back
(28:30):
up and then you could sit there and be like, well,
what does Tom Brady know about player decisions with as
it applies to coming to a team. Because to me,
when you start inserting Tom into the conversations as to
what decisions were taking place and how decisions have been made,
(28:50):
then now you got to ultimately judge him based off
of the results that take place from hearing about what
those decisions were.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Now, I would say this, and I've thrown out this
idea before, but of course it was dismissed because you know,
the disrespect that I'm shown on this show and at
this network is just revolting. But I've I've mentioned that
they should know, they.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Should disrespect is good.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
They should know, they should know that there there needs
to be one game on every NFL team schedule that's
open for some switching out, if you will some some juggling,
if you will switch hitt and and not even from
(29:40):
a standpoint, well it can be flexed out to this
night or no, no, no, no, I mean an entirely
different matchup. When these two moves were made, somebody should
have stepped in and said, Raider Seahawks, get it somewhere
on the schedule, somewhere on the schedule. We need this
to happen. We want storylines, we want juice. That's the
(30:01):
NFL's next evolution in adjusting their schedule for entertainment purposes,
only if they want to do it now. These two
teams are going to meet in the preseason, but it's
the preseason game. I'd love to see Pete Carroll have
his starters in until midway through the fourth quarter, just
to see what happens. I would love to see that
but all of the backstory. Now this added in that
(30:23):
Tom Brady said no to Sam Donald, but they traded
for Geno Smith. Sam Donald's now in Seattle. You've got
Pete Carroll and Gino Smith former Seahawks who are now
in Las Vegas. The NFL needs to step in, get
a pair of balls and say, you know what, broadcasting partners,
fan bases, you're going to need to have to wait
(30:43):
a little bit. We're going to open it up for
one game on the schedule each year for each team
that we decide after all the moves have been made
where these teams are going to be meeting up and
where they play. Because I would love to see Raider
Seahawks in the regular season. Anything about that, Levarrington.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
I mean, it's a creative way of being able to
approach your matchups and you can get more. You know,
I think the key to growing your audiences in this
day and age is fan interaction, you know, the engagement
and being able to engage in these types of conversations,
holding polls, getting feedback, you know, them having creative input
(31:27):
on different things such as this, like follow the storyline.
They always say, follow the storyline, and if the storyline
is giving you something like this. There's again, I mean
you were able to they were able to do that
with Peyton and Tom Brady. Yeah, you know so, I
mean I don't see there being any issue with with
(31:50):
that being something that you would work to try to
get to or to actually implement, where you can say,
even if it's not a team that is in the
division you're supposed to play out of division, we still
want to make this a game because the storyline connected
to it is super compelling and it would deliver in
(32:12):
terms of, you know, the build up to the game. Yeah,
I mean, I just think think it's it's I think
it's Yeah, I think it's a good deal.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
There's there's a lot. I mean, just think about what
you can do in Cleveland, Like you could have the
you could have the Browns face the highway patrol in
like week three, you know if your door might be
starting by then so you can see that whole, you
know part, or.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Just hold a scrimmage all together during training camp. Don't
the don't the policemen don't they have uh, don't they
have their own football teams? I believe I believe they
have football teams.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
So Ohio State Troopers versus versus the Browns, the practice
the practice team, the scout team.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Fair enough, bam, all right, no whistles. You get two
extra steps to the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Winner gets to pick the speed limit. All right, ten,
A thing's on the line.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
I mean people will watch that as state. Would you
telling me you went watch that? I'd be all in
that or a w NBA game if they may. You got,
I'm taking. I'm taking seeing if these cats is gonna win. Yes,
I'm telling you. And for what is work? What it's work,
I'd pay for that. I go on pay per view
(33:23):
to see if Cleveland's practice. How please this practice squad
did against the State Troopers.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
I mean you mentioned the coverage that would get. I
mean everybody'd be there, Fox, Barrett.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Don't everybody donate the proceeds to the State Troopers? Where
you go?
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Maam Barrett Sports two pros and a cup of Joe
here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Probably write something very nice about for Arrington.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Jonas knocks with you. Coming up next on this Football Friday,
we are going to have a very special edition of
Lee's Left because le has promised us he has sworn
on the air under oath that he has got major updates,
major celebrity updates, and they're yours right here on FSR.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
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We'll have our FSR ir as well too. Again, that'll
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Speaker 3 (35:07):
These might smell a little funk. That sounds incredible, but
they're still good. Time to find out what's Lap's Lee's lap?
Speaker 1 (35:17):
All right to lap? What do we got?
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Well?
Speaker 4 (35:18):
First things first, before we get to the juicy story
out there, is that it's a happy first day of summer,
June twentieth, which also happens to be a fiftieth birthday
to the one and only Bruce Bruce, of course, being
the name of the animatronic shark that did star in
the movie Jaws, which released fifty years ago today. All right,
and I know, uh, some people are gonna be going
(35:40):
off to Universal Studios today.
Speaker 6 (35:41):
Go celebrate with Bruce himself.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Uh yeah, he's still there. Yeah, in the same place.
I mean, there you go.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Where does that? Where does that rank for all time
movies for you?
Speaker 5 (35:55):
LeVar?
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Is that a top ten or Joss Jaws?
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Uh? I wouldn't say top ten, but it's up there.
What's it's up there?
Speaker 1 (36:05):
What's the IMDb or the rotten avocados on that?
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Lad?
Speaker 6 (36:10):
I think it's ninety six or ninety seven percent. I
saw it the other day.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
It's a great movie, great music.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Which one is your favorite? The first or of course
the first one? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (36:21):
The others are terrible.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Oh okay, oh okay.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
They're worth a hate watch, but yeah, they're no good.
There's no good shark. Well, the best other shark movie
is probably what Deep Deep Blue.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Nothing's close.
Speaker 6 (36:35):
Nothing's close ninety seven percent, by the way, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Nothing is closed. It's the best Jaws, the best.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
What else we got.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
If you're looking for another movie to see this week,
twenty eight years later. I saw it yesterday, fantastic third
installment of the twenty eight Days Later franchise.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
That movie like twenty years old.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
Uh correct, Yeah, I think it's about twenty two years old. Yeah,
this is twenty eight years Of course, there was twenty
eight days then twenty eight weeks later, now twenty eight
years later.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
By the way, twenty eight years also the same amount
of time between Game six and seven in the NBA Finals.
Go one way to go, all right?
Speaker 4 (37:12):
But yeah, if you're looking for a movie to see
this weekend, see twenty eight years later.
Speaker 6 (37:15):
Or if you're going with the kiddos, go see Ilo here.
That's good.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
I might go catch that latest Pixar films. Yeah, go see,
I'll go see it without the kids. It's a Pixar film,
So you know it's always going to.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Deliver what you take.
Speaker 6 (37:26):
I ain't taking the kids, chop off the kids at
the poor moor.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Had you I fell off that truck?
Speaker 2 (37:39):
I he is about.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Lost my step, lost your step?
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Misstep?
Speaker 1 (37:48):
You know you gotta be gotta be careful on those
parade floats. Everybody careful out there steep landing.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Especially when choosing your costume for the parade.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Right, yeah, what else we got?
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Guys?
Speaker 6 (38:08):
You asked, and I'll deliver.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
The reason I haven't given a Diddy update lately is
because after a brief adjunction due to juror illness and
another jur kicked off due to inconsistencies, so it was
delayed for a bit. Day twenty sixth of testimony in
the Diddy trial will resume today Friday morning, with his
former assistant Brendan Paul expected to take this take the
stand before.
Speaker 6 (38:31):
Yeah that today.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Also of note in this exotic dancer known as the Punisher,
testified in court about the twelve times he was over
at did he freak off? Than that he was paid
eight hundred dollars per event, which sometimes was like a
four day event, but has said that he has horrified
that the videos are being shown to the jurors, and
that he fears that they might make it to the
(38:52):
public someday.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
And he's the punisher, Yeah, the punisher. Why did they
call him that?
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Yeah? Lee, Lee? Why did they call him the punisher? Uh?
Speaker 6 (39:05):
You know, I will do a deep dive into the
punisher's Uh whoa former?
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (39:12):
Lee told me that. Lee till told me they called
him to punish him during the break and I don't
know what that meant. I'm still trying to figure out
what you mean, Dang Dan, That's just very confusing the
way you talk sometimes during breaks. So what was it
was he? Is he an exotic dancer? Is he?
Speaker 6 (39:31):
Yes? He was a former exotic dancer. He says that
life is far behind him.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
These were events that took place in twenty twelve and
that he's tried to move on with his life and
that this he's going through a hard time reliving night everything.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
But what is he doing now for work?
Speaker 2 (39:44):
You know?
Speaker 1 (39:44):
It doesn't say, I mean, what the hell of a resume?
Speaker 2 (39:49):
I wonder what he's He's concerned about them saying what
was he? Horridor fat? Horror fat about him?
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Right?
Speaker 4 (39:56):
Well, this did go all the way beyond exotic dancing.
He was uh had to sleep with Miss Ventura during
the what if You What if You.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Fight out the Punisher works like the lawn and Garden
at Ace Hardware, one of his coworkers like, it's a hue,
it's a previous light. Don't worry.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
I think he's guilty. Guilty. You think he's gonna get
guilty on.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
Some of the stuff, not everything, alleged racketeering, sex trafficking
and other.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Seriously, how many do you need before you're like, all right,
he's gonna go away for.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
A little while. Oh no, man, I think I think
he's gonna walk. I don't think he's gonna walk. That's
my that's my call.
Speaker 6 (40:33):
Have a great week, handy summer
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