July 1, 2025 • 40 mins
Following the blockbuster trade, teams are pressing hard for a possible TJ Watt trade. The Chargers induct Rodney Harrison into their hall of fame but will the league follow suit? Plus, Lee's Leftovers!
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It feels like you're throwing everybody under the bus.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
I'm just trying to get I mean, we can't get
a clear answer as to what's happening. But nonetheless, it
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We opened up the show talking about the big deal
in the NFL yesterday, the trade that was completed Steelers Dolphins.
The Dolphins trading Jalen Ramsey and tight end John new
Smith to the Steelers for micka Fitzpatrick and a pick swap.
Jalen Ramsey really excited about being a Pittsburgh Steeler. Miga
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Fitzpatrick goes back to where his career started in Miami,
where they traded him years ago to the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Had a really nice run there in Pittsburgh. Now he's
back in Miami and you look at it, you go
all right. So Steelers are getting aggressive. They've taken a
different approach this offseason. It feels like they've got a
new quarterback, They've got a new wide receiver. They just
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went out and acquired Jalen Ramsey, John new Smith gets
reed with Arthur Smith, the offensive coordinator, Darius Slay Like,
it feels like Pittsburgh's getting aggressive. I would also say
this this offseason is a loss for the Pittsburgh Steelers
if they don't figure out a way to get TJ.
Watt's extension done like that, to me, would wipe out
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all of the good intent and goodwill that the organization
has been able to accomplish so far in the off season.
And there's been some speculation. Adam Schefter was reporting this
that in recent weeks, multiple teams have been discussing whether
they can trade for TJ. Watt, who skipped the team's
most recent mini camp. Pittsburgh hasn't shown any willingness to
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deal Watt so far, but he's unhappy with this contractual situation,
and sources believe outside team interest is likely to increase
given the trade of Jalen Ramsey or Jalen Ramsey before Mikafitzpatrick.
If this all comes and the cost is you end
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up losing TJ. Watt, then all of a sudden, I'd
like to take back my initial comments of love the
offseason for Pittsburgh. At least they're giving themselves a chance.
That would be a bad loss.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I think if TJ. Watt were not to be a
Pittsburgh Steeler, you would be well within your rights to say,
for the first time in any time that I can
think of or remember, I would actually fix my face
to let my mouth say that the Pittsburgh Steelers are
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running amok. I would never, in my mind feel as
though I would ever say that this organization that I've
learned so many lessons from growing up and just real time,
real time experiences with people who are connected with that
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organization since I was a kid. I still have the
most fondest and and great memories of my interactions with
Coach Cower and and and the things we've discussed on
a personal level, from Greg Lloyd to Dwight White, who
was there when I was literally I was young, you know,
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I was, I was pre teen, you know, And I
got to know Dwight White because we lived in the
same neighborhood and and so just just my my background
and connection to the team. You know, I know it
from a fan's perspective, but I also know it as
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an aspiring football player. And and and obviously to the
point of where you know I was, I was going
around with Jerome Bettis. Jerome took me under his wing
and literally was like picking me up and driving me
around and talking to me about you know, what it
meant to be dialed in and locked into to being
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the best you can be and how that looks, and
the things that I needed to be thinking about, Like
I had all these things real time with Steelers, and
so looking at where they're at right now, there they
kind of are flirting with it already in terms of
it's like I find myself asking myself, what are they doing, Like,
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what are y'all doing if y'all if they were to
let TJ. Watt walk away from the Pittsburgh Steelers. I
think it would be official that everyone that is a
Pittsburgh Steelers fan and even beyond the Pittsburgh Steeler community
would be asking, what the hell are the Pittsburgh Steelers doing. Yeah,
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And the only way out of it, and the only
way through it is you got to have a tremendous season.
You got to have a tremendous season. So you're going
to have to have Aaron Rodgers play better than Russell
Wilson and Justin Fields and Kenny Pickett. You're going to
have to have Jalen Ramsey have a really really fine year.
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And if TJ. Watt were to go, I don't know,
man that that would be. That would be a total meltdown.
I think the pressure to sign TJ. Watt is higher
than it's ever had been, what it would ever be
right now, They're going to sign TJ. Watt whether they
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like it or not. The Pittsburgh Steelers are going to
sign TJ. Watt. They have no other recourse but to
sign TJ. Watt.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
It also, if they were to trade him, it would
go against everything went down. Would Yeah, it would go
against everything they've done this offseason Because these are win
now MO wouldn't now moves like you're not like Jalen
Ramsey's not twenty two, Like you're bringing him in because
you feel like, hey, listen, if he's gonna play corner,
if he's going to switch to safety, whatever it is,
this is for now. Aaron Rodgers is done after this year,
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DK Metcalf, They feel like, hey, this is this isn'tn
upgrade of that position? John new Smith like, it's not
like he's got a long term deal. These are all
we want to compete right now. Moves and trading away TJ.
Watt might make sense for the future, Like when the
Raiders decided to trade away from Khalil Mack. The thought was, well, look,
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I mean, we can't you know, we're not at a
point to where we feel like we can compete, so
let's at least get as many picks as we possibly can.
This would just be counter to everything that they've done
so far in the offseason. That's why I find it
far fetched that this would happen. But there's until there's
a deal done, it's it's possible. And if you remember
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the Khalil Mack trade that happened right before the season started,
so I just I look at it and I go,
I'm optimistic they'll get something figured out. But if I'm
a Steelers fan, it's almost you hold the right to
reserve judgment on the offseason based on whatever that move
is that cancels out everything for me and whatever they've done,
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not signing TJ. Watt and moving on from him just
doesn't make any sense to.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Me at all. You can't move on from TJ. Watt.
You can't do it. And that's the bottom line. I
don't even think it has to be a long discussion.
You can't move on from TJ. Watt. If you move
on from TJ. Watt, good luck and God bless because
you've lost. You've not only lost the belief of probably
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the general media. The media will rain down on that,
but you're going to lose the belief in the fan.
The fans are going to lose belief and what you
got going on. And I tell you, people talk about
block out the outside noise and nothing else matters, and this,
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that and the other fans matter. Fans matter. And if
you're one of those people, as a decision maker, a
coach or a player, and you don't think the fans matters.
Ask anybody who went through COVID how important the fans are,
and look no further than the idea of you don't
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want to be a fanless franchise. It's not good for business.
So the fans matter. So some of the decisions that
these franchises make, organizations make. I mean, granted, this is
like a Saquon Barkley deal, right like they let Saquon go.
Oh god, and look at how that played out. There's
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no doubt in my mind, if TJ. Watt ended up
on another team, he's going to ball and he's going
to make that team a better team. The question is
did the Pittsburgh Steelers become a better team letting TJ.
Watt go and which they would have effectively let go
the best two players on their football team and Minka
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Fitzpatrick and TJ. Watt, Cam Hayward probably being number three.
And for what it's worth, that's just on the defensive
side of the ball, because you let Pickett go as
well Pickens and so all right, you brought in you
you bring in DK Metcalf, But DK Metcalf has been
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considered to be a head case at times as well,
So it's not like you made a decision where you
upgrade it like you brought in and no disrespect. But
it's not like you traded out a low character guy
for a high character guy. You didn't do that. I mean.
DK Metcalf has just as many meltdowns, if not more
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than George Pickens.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Is hey, hey, does he I don't think he does.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Being serious? Are you being serious?
Speaker 1 (12:04):
He's got as many meltdowns as George Pickens.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
You better look him up. Look him up?
Speaker 1 (12:10):
All right, let me look this up. DK may actually
you know it. I'll grocket right now, grock him. I
should go ahead, you continue.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
All I'm saying is is that the decisions are questionable.
That's all. They're questionable. And if you allow for TJ.
Watt to leave Pittsburgh, then it's not questionable anymore. It's
just something's wrong. Something's wrong, and they're running them up
in Pittsburgh. Now, if that leads to the emergence of
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the one Time, Last Time high noon shootout, you know,
showdown where the gunslinging Aaron Rodgers does it one more
time and ends the movie killing the villain and walking
into the sunset with the girl and the trophy, then great.
It all worked out, But then you also got to
take it into consideration what do you do after that?
Speaker 1 (13:07):
What comes next? Like?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Are you just really preparing for one year? What comes next?
Because you're you're you're judged on a what have you
done for me lately? Type of status? What comes next?
So I don't know? And the answer is yes, I
don't need Grock seen it with my own two eyes.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Well, I mean, listen, I went to Grok just too
good because I think this is a this is a
real debate here, all right, Okay, so we don't need
a lot oferator. We've got Grock. This is a real debate.
So you you think George Pickens has had less meltdowns
than DJ and THN DK Metcalf, I think the opposite.
I'm team DK Metcalf. Here, your team George Pickens. According
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to Grock, both DK Metcalf and George Pickens have had
their share of emotional outbursts or meltdowns as you say,
on and off the field, often tied to their competitive
nature and frustrations with team dynamics or performance. However, based
on recent reports and sentiment, George Pickens appears to have
a slight edge in terms of frequency and public perception
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of such incidents. The data doesn't provide a definitive count
of meltdowns for either player, and much of the perception
comes from the media, narratives and fan sentiment. Pickens' recent actions,
particularly of social media activity and the youth camp incident,
have drawn more attention, suggesting he may have a slight
edge in terms of publicized meltdowns. However, both players competitive
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intensity makes them prone to emotional moments, and without a
clear metric, the comparison remains close. If you're looking for
a more genuine breakdown, I'd need specific incidents or a
timeframe to dig deeper. Any preference there, I would just say, no, Grok,
how about you pick a side stop riding the fence.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
I would just say that Grock makes my point, makes
my point. You didn't upgrade, you didn't upgrade, You didn't
get this this high character guy that you don't hear
anything from that that is just comes and does his
job and works hard and just da da da, and
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and both of these guys may do those things. It's
just the other things that play a part in it.
Grabbing people by their face, masks, pushing them after the whistle,
like doing craziness where it's like it clearly shows that
the emotional charge that's connected to you is is high.
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And Pickens has done it, and so has DK Metcalf.
So to me, you know DK state crashing out on
the field. I mean, he every once in a while
you'll seem like he'd be ready to fight, like for real,
for real, Like I'm here, We're gonna fight.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Hey, that's that competitiveness. That's what we want to steal.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
You can be competitive, You're such an instant gator. You
can be competitive without without it coming across that way. So,
and the point is is, I don't it is what
it is. I mean, both of them are five football players,
but don't try to justify one to justify the other.
Like they both kind of have character traits that are
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are relatable and Grock just confirmed. So yeah, I don't
know where you go with that.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
But Tom Tellasaro of the NFL Network, he does. He
did report at least on Monday that the Steelers do
intend and they have no intentions of trading TJ.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Watt.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
They intend to extend him. And again I'd hope so
because if for whatever reason.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
That's the end, if they were to do that. If
you were to get rid of TJ. Watt prematurely, that
represents the end. It's the end of an era. And
and you would just have to assume that the GM
and the head coach are both going to be gone
after this season. You become a laying duck organization for
at least a year if you get rid of t J. Watt.
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That's how important he is to the situation.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
And look, it's not to say that TJ. Watt's not
been a pain in the ass and negotiations, or that
there have been some things out there about how difficult
he is to negotiate with or deal with. All of
that could be true. Here's what else is true. That
dude's a Hall of Famer and can still play at
a high level, and you need him, especially to get
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after a quarterback and a division where you've got to
also probable Hall of Famers and Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow.
Like I mean, trading away TJ. Watt would feel like
a Bengals move, not a Steelers move. And if you're
the Steelers, like you don't want to have that stain
or that rep You don't want to be As you mentioned,
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the next Saquon Barkley especially, you know a guy who
wants to and that's.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
A lot that can happen there. That would be a
one hundred lock. Yeah, to go somewhere else, and it
wouldn't I don't know what type of team it would be,
but if he went to a team that would like say,
say Kansas City got TJ. Watt, Oh my god, exactly, exactly.
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coming up less than twenty minutes from now. We're going
to close up shop here with another edition of Lee's Leftovers.
That'll be yours right here on FSRUH. We did get
a little piece of news yesterday out of the NFL.
A congratulations to Rodney Harrison. He will go into the
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Chargers Hall of Fame. That was information was given to
him as he was waiting in the parking lot outside
I had his daughter's volleyball tournament. He got a FaceTime
from Jim Harbaugh, the coach of the Chargers, to let
him know that he was going into the Chargers Hall
of Fame along the with greats like Ladanian, Tomlinson, Antonio Gates,
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Junior seou So, Rodney, Harrison well deserved goes into the
Chargers Hall of Fame. And I don't know that there's
a lot of people, by the way, speaking of a
guy who not yeah, not built for today's game.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
He crashed out on me. Did he really? Yes? He did?
Speaker 1 (20:34):
What happened? Uh uh?
Speaker 2 (20:39):
There was a play Doug Flutey did something. I don't know.
I felt like somebody moved. I went through the line
of scrimmage and I hit Doug flute and knocked him
on his back. And Harrison Rodney just crashed out, man like.
He was like hollering at me, Dad, if you up
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did that? That? That this? That? So he ain't afraid.
I'll tell you that.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Because he's a leather neck Western Illinois baby.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
He's one afraid bro. I told him, I'll beat your
ass on this field, off this field, wherever you like it,
I'll beat the I'll beat the f out of you.
Brouh you ever talked to me that way? We was talking.
We was talking greasy to one another. I mean, he
picked the right one to talk to that way. We definitely,
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we definitely, you know, exchanged some some very very non
pleasant pleasantries to one another during the course of that exchange.
But I respected it. And and you know, the one
thing about it is is if if somebody would, if say,
I would have hit our quarterback and was called for
an off side and then a personal foul, I would
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have been telling as much as I loved Jay Jr.
I would have been telling him the same thing. I
would have been saying the same thing if it was
Rodney Harris, and I would have been saying the same thing.
So he's one of those type guys you hate him
as an opponent, you love him as your teammate type dudes,
you know, and he's well deserving of it. I mean,
I don't know his let me look him up. I
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felt like he had a Hall of Fame career, man,
I mean, I really do. He was one of them
special they they always talk about certain safeties like and
it always starts with Paulamalu, you know, which it should
start with Ronnie Lott, by the way. But you know
a lot of people bring up you know, Polamalu and
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Ed Reed, and then it's kind of like they stop
or they bring in Sean Taylor, you know, and and
they talk about those guys and deservingly so not not
saying not deservingly, but but there have been some guys
that had really played this game at a at a
very very high level, and Rodney Harrison was definitely, you know,
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he was definitely one of them.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
First team All Pro twice, second Team All Pro was
fourth and Player of the Year, Defensive Player of the
Year voting one year, won a couple of Super Bowls
in New England, obviously Pro Bowls. I mean, the fact
that he's not in the Pro Football Hall of Fame
is a little bit surprising. And I don't know that
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you put him, you know, on obviously, you know, maybe
not the Ed Reed level and all that, but he
was still a great player, and I wonder he's got
It's kind of interesting because he played nine years with
the Chargers, and I wonder if nationally there's more people
that remember his time with the Patriots because of those
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big games.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
That he played in, which is crazy because he was
a way, way, way way younger, more spry player in
San Diego.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
And it's not like he didn't play in a Super
Bowl with San Diego. Remember they they got blown out
by the Niners, but he did.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Beat They beat Mas Steelers to get there. You know
what's crazy is him. It was him and Junior. That's it.
Like you might look at Natron Means and you know
a couple other people that you know, Curtis Conway I
believe was a guy Stan Humphries, Like there have been
some guys like who was the dude that had the
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light the light visor that was the defensive end for them.
I mean they had they had some guys, you know
what I'm talking about. They had some guys on on
their team. And the two that always stood out the
most until l T and Sean Merriman got there, and
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you know, Sean Phillips and Thosing Gates. You know, until
that era of time, the pre era to that, it
was all Rodney, Harrison and Junior sayout all all like
literally all them. I mean you could throw Edwards in
there too. The linebacker at Donnie Edwards was was dope
as hell for the Chargers as well. But man, it
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was Junior in Rodney. Man, it was the Junior and
Rodney Show for sure.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Yeah they were, and it's just you know, and then
he's still waiting around. I also would say this from abroad,
I've loved Rodney Harrison as a broadcaster because he's one
of those guys that is, Look, I know, I'm a
former player. I'm not going to be a kiss ass
to former players. I don't care. I'm going to tell
it how it is. This is my thoughts on it.
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There's some people that push back on it and say, well,
who are you to talk like? You're not one to
talk considering your reputation as a player, whether it's dirty hits,
people forget it. Sort of sparked the Kurt Warner run
in Saint Louis because it was Rodney Harrison who went
low against Trent Green. There's there's been other incidents that
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have popped up when it comes to Rodney Harrison. He
was fined a significant amount of money throughout the course
of his career, But that dude was a great player,
and I think that people look more at his run
with the Patriots than they do his run with the Chargers.
And he was in San Diego way longer. And I
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don't know if that's because it was San Diego. And
this is not to be insulting or offensive to San
Diego Charger fans or people listening in San Diego. But look,
the team left for a reason. I mean, they're clearly
the market. The visibility wasn't the same as it was
in New England. So when he went to New England
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and was able to win Super Bowls there, I think
it put his career on another level. And the fact
that he's still waiting around for a Hall of Fame
bid is kind of strange. That's kind of odd to me.
I guess, you know, there's a few of them out there.
I guess he's one of those names to add, you know,
Darren Woodson, he's a name to add. He continues to
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wait on getting getting a NOD and getting into the
Pro Football.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Hall of Fame. You know, there's a lot of them
out there. But Rodney Harrison definitely is was a generational
player and definitely was a special football player. I think
he does an excellent job as well. The one thing
I love about Rodney is that he just don't give
an f at all. Like you can say what you
want about him, you know, And I tend to try
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to pattern myself after guys like that, you know, growing
up watching them, even now being in this type of
environment where I do media, I try to do it
the same exact way. I could care less what people say.
You know, you could say I stink, you could say this,
that and the other. I'm gonna have a good time
with it because at the end of the day, I'm
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getting paid to do the job. You get zero for
saying damn you know what I mean. So it's like
I get behind the microphone, I know what I know,
I've experienced what I've experienced, and continue to learn, continue
to talk to people, you know that are within the game,
whether it be you know, top top tier guys, top
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top level you know, corporate, or if it's the players themselves.
I try to stay connected to it as much as
I possibly can and and give give my perspective, you know,
because that's what this is. When you do talk radio,
you're you're here to give perspective for him. He's he's
an analyst, a studio guy, and he's brought in to
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give his opinions and his perspective, which is based upon
your experiences and how you see them. So if you
tell me my my my perspective is some s, then
that's fine, but I'm nonetheless still giving you genuine, authentic
perspective and that will never change. And that's one thing
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as a player that I always respected about Rodney Harrison,
but I also respect it from him as as a
media personality too.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
He could crack man.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Oh he brought that hat brought.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
He was one of those big shoulder pad safety guys.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
That would just lay the lumber like he didn't care
if he knocked himself out. No, that's the thing about it.
He'll knock you out and he might knock himself out,
but it didn't matter. He's still he's going to bring.
He was what you He was a dude that brought
the noise. You're going and get them, Woodley.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
The name that we were looking for was Leslie O'Neil.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Leslie O'Neill.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
There you go, great player. Chris Mims was on that team.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Chris, that's a good one.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Chargers had something. But I ought to show you how
good that forty nine Ers team was because that wasn't close.
That was a complete wipe out. And I still remember
this watching that Chargers Steelers AFC Championship game, and I
remember it was a play at the goal line and
my nephew was a die hard Steelers fan, and I
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just remember the ball was batted down at the goal line.
The Chargers win in three rivers. It was an upset
and I remember him running out of the room crying,
and I'm looking at it going how did San Diego
win that game? Because everyone thought the Steelers are going
to the Super Bowl and that was one.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Of those it have been a much better game, I'll
tell you that, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
And it was also that was people forget that there
was a real discussion that was being had. Man is
Bill Keller ever going to get this team over the hump?
Like is Bill Cower ever going to get this team
to a super Bowl? And eventually they got there, but
they lost that Super Bowl either the next year or
the year after to Dallas in you know, in Arizona,
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and then ultimately they ended up winning it and that
was you know, Bill Cower's final game. But yeah, Rodney
Harrison going to be a Hall of Famer, going into
the Chargers Hall of Fame, well deserved, and maybe one
day it'll eventually lead into a Pro Football Hall of fame,
nod for him, But there's a great Chargers team, and
go back to that. By the way, enough with the
powder blue crap. Go back to those Chargers jerseys, those unis.
(30:59):
I don't want to here at the powder blue st like.
Go back dark blue, thick lightning bolt across the helmet
and let's ride with that here. I don't care. They're
not in San Diego anymore. Make that happen. By the way,
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Speaker 2 (31:58):
That's got to be racist.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
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These might smell a little funk, sounds incredible, but they're
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still good. Time to find out what's lack? It's Lee's
lap jobs, all right to laugh? What do we got? Well?
Speaker 3 (32:50):
It is July first, and you know what that signifies?
What it's Bobby Benia day.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Oh wow, bucks and change. Huh yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
One point nine million dollars every year on July first,
for from now until twenty thirty five, another ten years.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
That's crazy million bussy, what an amazing deal he did?
Like that is so wowd deferred it?
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Yeah, damn. I mean, I just hope that I'm around
doing radio in twenty thirty six so that I can
officially announce that this story is over.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Damn.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
That'd be nice. Just go ahead and uh we can
move on. Matt. I'm just tired of hearing about it,
like he gets a million dollars in change every year.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Every year. You got your ass up early as hell
every day working. You ain't making that.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Damn. Yeah, it's true, though.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
He just sits around and it just comes around July thirsday,
that's true. Get it.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
I gotta play bumper cars with a bunch of alcoholics
on the road at two in the morning to get
into the studio, and Bobby Bania just sits back and goes, yeah,
just leave that check over there next to the other
ones I get each year. Damn it.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
For thirty five more years? What week? Notre years?
Speaker 1 (34:18):
What a humbling reminder?
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Dag, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
What else we got guys? In case you missed it.
Did you see the father who jumped off the Disney
cruise yesterday?
Speaker 2 (34:35):
I heard about it. Yeah, I didn't see it yet,
but I heard it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
His four year old apparently squeezed through the cracks, fell
off the fourth deck of the Disney cruise, and the
father quickly sprung into action jumped in after him. Thankfully,
everybody on the ship turned around, saved the father and
the child.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
So good story there on.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
A cruise, on a cruise They turned the ship around
and save the kid and the dad on a cruise ship.
That is wow, cheese.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
He's a better man than me.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
I mean, they say, I mean, if that's my son,
if you can make one, you can make more than one.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
If that's if that's my son. I'm looking over the
edge going.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
River side, Well that would be ocean side.
Speaker 6 (35:29):
He seaside, open seaside.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
What I just saw that? Well, okay, what hell is
really guys?
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Triple A has announced that this fourth of July is
expected to break all records, with seventy two point two
million Americans traveling on the road for at least fifty
miles or longer. That will include our very own Lorena,
who's high tailing it. Right after the show today to
her home state of Oregon.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Wait, hold on, hold on, noh, like, so you're not
going to be in the rest of the week.
Speaker 7 (36:09):
No, I'm not going to be in the rest of
the week. Well, we don't miss me too much.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Either, are we? So what you may neither? Are we?
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Well, we're not going to be in this time slot
necessarily all week.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Oh that is right. Dang, I forgot you guys.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Get to sleep in.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Tomorrow, not tomorrow. You're going tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
I mean I'll still wake up at the same time
because somebody's got to.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Keep the consistency going here. And apparently who's taking our
show while we do another show?
Speaker 1 (36:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Uh, I can look that.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
I should know that, shouldn't I probably?
Speaker 4 (36:48):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (36:48):
God?
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Well, hey, Lorenda, how long is that drive from here
to Coos Bay?
Speaker 7 (36:54):
Right here? It's eleven hours and thirty five minutes.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
So how do you break that up? Do you go
half take a rest?
Speaker 7 (37:00):
Well usually I do half and then arrest.
Speaker 8 (37:02):
But since I didn't sleep, I'm probably gonna get about
three hours in and then I'm gonna stop and take
a nap at a rest stop.
Speaker 7 (37:09):
Pray I don't get murdered.
Speaker 8 (37:10):
And then uh, then we're gonna drive a few more
hours until I get tired again, and I want to
take in another nap.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
By the way, I've done that, take a nap at
a rest stop like an hour or so.
Speaker 7 (37:19):
Oh, it's so good, it's so.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
I don't know, didn't feel like the safest thing in
the world.
Speaker 7 (37:24):
I got my fish cutter. You don't worry about me.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
See, you're taking the five which if you're taking the
one A one up, it's great.
Speaker 7 (37:33):
Five hours. That adds another five hours here.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
What you get?
Speaker 7 (37:36):
And I've done that route. It's not fun.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Jason Fits and Buck Rising, by the way, filling in
for us so ill a good show?
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Yeah they do. Yeah, they're great. I love those guys.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Oh, by the way, she's going to be driving back
in a brand new vehicle.
Speaker 7 (37:56):
Oh yes, I forgot.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
She's getting a new car.
Speaker 7 (38:01):
Has someone bought me a new car?
Speaker 4 (38:02):
Bar?
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Are you being serious?
Speaker 7 (38:04):
No?
Speaker 8 (38:06):
But anytime?
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Probably.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
You know what you can do up to Oregon. You
can take the train, you can take Amtrak, which is
oh yeah, just sweet, take it to Seattle.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Yeah, or trying to Oregon like Eugene, Oregon.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Yeah, probably I'm not kidding. I just took. I took,
We took the Amtrak, the surf Liner, Pacific surf Liner.
We went up to the beach a couple of weeks ago.
It's the best.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Man. I didn't even think about that as an.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Oh my god, if I could. My dad's done that
to where he took the uh the Amtrak from Union
Station in Los Angeles all the way to Galesburg, Illinois
to see his family years ago. And you can go
like you run out these state rooms and it is awesome.
You just see parts of the country, you hang out.
You don't got to worry about getting on a plane.
(38:57):
It takes a lot longer, but you know how much
work you could get done, and how relaxing that must be.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Relaxing. Yeah, it's the idea of it being relaxing or riffed.
You can get well, you could get riffed on the airplane.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (39:09):
I just feel like it should be more cost efficient.
If you're going to take a slower method to get there,
it should be cheaper. And it's not. Trains are still expensive.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Everything's cheap.
Speaker 7 (39:19):
Trains and automobiles.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
No, it's not depends on.
Speaker 7 (39:23):
No, Yes, it is. Go look up those train tickets.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Yeah, but you don't have to drive. If you're in
a train, you're just hanging out.
Speaker 7 (39:28):
I do see your point.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
There, I just don't. I mean, a train is probably
in between driving and flying as as the best alternaty.
It's better than driving because you don't have to do
it unless you love driving. It's better than the airplane
because well you're not in the in the in the
in the sky, and it's cheaper.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Yeah, And you just got to you got to just
hope that you know, some burnout doesn't walk across the
tracks because they're upset about some breakup and you know,
get interest impedes everything because that'll add another at least
four or five hours onto it clean all that up.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
I gotta worry about if your car breaks down to
like there's always the stress of like is your car
going to are you gonna pop a tire? Like do
you got to get roadside? Where are you at when
you get that roadside? Do you have you know, sell
service all man, Jump on that train, Jump on that train.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
If you control that off to go see uh, to
go up to Oregon if you get pull that off?
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Looking that up. Soon as I get off air. I
didn't even think about that.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
You would get throttled on it.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
I mean, you know, I'm gonna make sure I'm tightened
up before I get up on there. Take this little
nap later
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I did not choose this song. Is this considered a
stirper song?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I don't know. I would assume, though I can't get
an understand. I can't get a clear answer as to
whether or not this was a Brady Quinn selection that
he went behind our backs again and had this picked.
It wasn't who chose this me?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Uh Now it all makes sense. And it took today
for Lee to come clean. Perfect you know, had to
be the perfect, you know, perfect moment.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
What about the sound drop of Trump saying they don't
know what the f they're doing?
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Who put that in? That was not me?
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Okay, we do we know who that was or just
so we just have to it was definitely Alex mm hmmm,
Alex ty shirt. Yeah, that they don't know what the
f they're doing drop.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah, but who added it.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
To O's Ricky?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
That was Ricky just on his own. I don't know.
It feels like a veto thing, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
It feels like you're throwing everybody under the bus.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
I'm just trying to get I mean, we can't get
a clear answer as to what's happening. But nonetheless, it
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find us on hundreds of affiliates here all across the country.
We opened up the show talking about the big deal
in the NFL yesterday, the trade that was completed Steelers Dolphins.
The Dolphins trading Jalen Ramsey and tight end John new
Smith to the Steelers for micka Fitzpatrick and a pick swap.
Jalen Ramsey really excited about being a Pittsburgh Steeler. Miga
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Fitzpatrick goes back to where his career started in Miami,
where they traded him years ago to the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Had a really nice run there in Pittsburgh. Now he's
back in Miami and you look at it, you go
all right. So Steelers are getting aggressive. They've taken a
different approach this offseason. It feels like they've got a
new quarterback, They've got a new wide receiver. They just
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went out and acquired Jalen Ramsey, John new Smith gets
reed with Arthur Smith, the offensive coordinator, Darius Slay Like,
it feels like Pittsburgh's getting aggressive. I would also say
this this offseason is a loss for the Pittsburgh Steelers
if they don't figure out a way to get TJ.
Watt's extension done like that, to me, would wipe out
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all of the good intent and goodwill that the organization
has been able to accomplish so far in the off season.
And there's been some speculation. Adam Schefter was reporting this
that in recent weeks, multiple teams have been discussing whether
they can trade for TJ. Watt, who skipped the team's
most recent mini camp. Pittsburgh hasn't shown any willingness to
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deal Watt so far, but he's unhappy with this contractual situation,
and sources believe outside team interest is likely to increase
given the trade of Jalen Ramsey or Jalen Ramsey before Mikafitzpatrick.
If this all comes and the cost is you end
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up losing TJ. Watt, then all of a sudden, I'd
like to take back my initial comments of love the
offseason for Pittsburgh. At least they're giving themselves a chance.
That would be a bad loss.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I think if TJ. Watt were not to be a
Pittsburgh Steeler, you would be well within your rights to say,
for the first time in any time that I can
think of or remember, I would actually fix my face
to let my mouth say that the Pittsburgh Steelers are
(04:40):
running amok. I would never, in my mind feel as
though I would ever say that this organization that I've
learned so many lessons from growing up and just real time,
real time experiences with people who are connected with that
(05:00):
organization since I was a kid. I still have the
most fondest and and great memories of my interactions with
Coach Cower and and and the things we've discussed on
a personal level, from Greg Lloyd to Dwight White, who
was there when I was literally I was young, you know,
(05:22):
I was, I was pre teen, you know, And I
got to know Dwight White because we lived in the
same neighborhood and and so just just my my background
and connection to the team. You know, I know it
from a fan's perspective, but I also know it as
(05:43):
an aspiring football player. And and and obviously to the
point of where you know I was, I was going
around with Jerome Bettis. Jerome took me under his wing
and literally was like picking me up and driving me
around and talking to me about you know, what it
meant to be dialed in and locked into to being
(06:05):
the best you can be and how that looks, and
the things that I needed to be thinking about, Like
I had all these things real time with Steelers, and
so looking at where they're at right now, there they
kind of are flirting with it already in terms of
it's like I find myself asking myself, what are they doing, Like,
(06:30):
what are y'all doing if y'all if they were to
let TJ. Watt walk away from the Pittsburgh Steelers. I
think it would be official that everyone that is a
Pittsburgh Steelers fan and even beyond the Pittsburgh Steeler community
would be asking, what the hell are the Pittsburgh Steelers doing. Yeah,
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And the only way out of it, and the only
way through it is you got to have a tremendous season.
You got to have a tremendous season. So you're going
to have to have Aaron Rodgers play better than Russell
Wilson and Justin Fields and Kenny Pickett. You're going to
have to have Jalen Ramsey have a really really fine year.
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And if TJ. Watt were to go, I don't know,
man that that would be. That would be a total meltdown.
I think the pressure to sign TJ. Watt is higher
than it's ever had been, what it would ever be
right now, They're going to sign TJ. Watt whether they
(07:41):
like it or not. The Pittsburgh Steelers are going to
sign TJ. Watt. They have no other recourse but to
sign TJ. Watt.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
It also, if they were to trade him, it would
go against everything went down. Would Yeah, it would go
against everything they've done this offseason Because these are win
now MO wouldn't now moves like you're not like Jalen
Ramsey's not twenty two, Like you're bringing him in because
you feel like, hey, listen, if he's gonna play corner,
if he's going to switch to safety, whatever it is,
this is for now. Aaron Rodgers is done after this year,
(08:13):
DK Metcalf, They feel like, hey, this is this isn'tn
upgrade of that position? John new Smith like, it's not
like he's got a long term deal. These are all
we want to compete right now. Moves and trading away TJ.
Watt might make sense for the future, Like when the
Raiders decided to trade away from Khalil Mack. The thought was, well, look,
(08:34):
I mean, we can't you know, we're not at a
point to where we feel like we can compete, so
let's at least get as many picks as we possibly can.
This would just be counter to everything that they've done
so far in the offseason. That's why I find it
far fetched that this would happen. But there's until there's
a deal done, it's it's possible. And if you remember
(08:55):
the Khalil Mack trade that happened right before the season started,
so I just I look at it and I go,
I'm optimistic they'll get something figured out. But if I'm
a Steelers fan, it's almost you hold the right to
reserve judgment on the offseason based on whatever that move
is that cancels out everything for me and whatever they've done,
(09:17):
not signing TJ. Watt and moving on from him just
doesn't make any sense to.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Me at all. You can't move on from TJ. Watt.
You can't do it. And that's the bottom line. I
don't even think it has to be a long discussion.
You can't move on from TJ. Watt. If you move
on from TJ. Watt, good luck and God bless because
you've lost. You've not only lost the belief of probably
(09:43):
the general media. The media will rain down on that,
but you're going to lose the belief in the fan.
The fans are going to lose belief and what you
got going on. And I tell you, people talk about
block out the outside noise and nothing else matters, and this,
(10:04):
that and the other fans matter. Fans matter. And if
you're one of those people, as a decision maker, a
coach or a player, and you don't think the fans matters.
Ask anybody who went through COVID how important the fans are,
and look no further than the idea of you don't
(10:29):
want to be a fanless franchise. It's not good for business.
So the fans matter. So some of the decisions that
these franchises make, organizations make. I mean, granted, this is
like a Saquon Barkley deal, right like they let Saquon go.
Oh god, and look at how that played out. There's
(10:51):
no doubt in my mind, if TJ. Watt ended up
on another team, he's going to ball and he's going
to make that team a better team. The question is
did the Pittsburgh Steelers become a better team letting TJ.
Watt go and which they would have effectively let go
the best two players on their football team and Minka
(11:13):
Fitzpatrick and TJ. Watt, Cam Hayward probably being number three.
And for what it's worth, that's just on the defensive
side of the ball, because you let Pickett go as
well Pickens and so all right, you brought in you
you bring in DK Metcalf, But DK Metcalf has been
(11:34):
considered to be a head case at times as well,
So it's not like you made a decision where you
upgrade it like you brought in and no disrespect. But
it's not like you traded out a low character guy
for a high character guy. You didn't do that. I mean.
DK Metcalf has just as many meltdowns, if not more
(11:56):
than George Pickens.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Is hey, hey, does he I don't think he does.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Being serious? Are you being serious?
Speaker 1 (12:04):
He's got as many meltdowns as George Pickens.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
You better look him up. Look him up?
Speaker 1 (12:10):
All right, let me look this up. DK may actually
you know it. I'll grocket right now, grock him. I
should go ahead, you continue.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
All I'm saying is is that the decisions are questionable.
That's all. They're questionable. And if you allow for TJ.
Watt to leave Pittsburgh, then it's not questionable anymore. It's
just something's wrong. Something's wrong, and they're running them up
in Pittsburgh. Now, if that leads to the emergence of
(12:41):
the one Time, Last Time high noon shootout, you know,
showdown where the gunslinging Aaron Rodgers does it one more
time and ends the movie killing the villain and walking
into the sunset with the girl and the trophy, then great.
It all worked out, But then you also got to
take it into consideration what do you do after that?
Speaker 1 (13:07):
What comes next? Like?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Are you just really preparing for one year? What comes next?
Because you're you're you're judged on a what have you
done for me lately? Type of status? What comes next?
So I don't know? And the answer is yes, I
don't need Grock seen it with my own two eyes.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Well, I mean, listen, I went to Grok just too
good because I think this is a this is a
real debate here, all right, Okay, so we don't need
a lot oferator. We've got Grock. This is a real debate.
So you you think George Pickens has had less meltdowns
than DJ and THN DK Metcalf, I think the opposite.
I'm team DK Metcalf. Here, your team George Pickens. According
(13:49):
to Grock, both DK Metcalf and George Pickens have had
their share of emotional outbursts or meltdowns as you say,
on and off the field, often tied to their competitive
nature and frustrations with team dynamics or performance. However, based
on recent reports and sentiment, George Pickens appears to have
a slight edge in terms of frequency and public perception
(14:10):
of such incidents. The data doesn't provide a definitive count
of meltdowns for either player, and much of the perception
comes from the media, narratives and fan sentiment. Pickens' recent actions,
particularly of social media activity and the youth camp incident,
have drawn more attention, suggesting he may have a slight
edge in terms of publicized meltdowns. However, both players competitive
(14:32):
intensity makes them prone to emotional moments, and without a
clear metric, the comparison remains close. If you're looking for
a more genuine breakdown, I'd need specific incidents or a
timeframe to dig deeper. Any preference there, I would just say, no, Grok,
how about you pick a side stop riding the fence.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
I would just say that Grock makes my point, makes
my point. You didn't upgrade, you didn't upgrade, You didn't
get this this high character guy that you don't hear
anything from that that is just comes and does his
job and works hard and just da da da, and
(15:15):
and both of these guys may do those things. It's
just the other things that play a part in it.
Grabbing people by their face, masks, pushing them after the whistle,
like doing craziness where it's like it clearly shows that
the emotional charge that's connected to you is is high.
(15:38):
And Pickens has done it, and so has DK Metcalf.
So to me, you know DK state crashing out on
the field. I mean, he every once in a while
you'll seem like he'd be ready to fight, like for real,
for real, Like I'm here, We're gonna fight.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Hey, that's that competitiveness. That's what we want to steal.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
You can be competitive, You're such an instant gator. You
can be competitive without without it coming across that way. So,
and the point is is, I don't it is what
it is. I mean, both of them are five football players,
but don't try to justify one to justify the other.
Like they both kind of have character traits that are
(16:20):
are relatable and Grock just confirmed. So yeah, I don't
know where you go with that.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
But Tom Tellasaro of the NFL Network, he does. He
did report at least on Monday that the Steelers do
intend and they have no intentions of trading TJ.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Watt.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
They intend to extend him. And again I'd hope so
because if for whatever reason.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
That's the end, if they were to do that. If
you were to get rid of TJ. Watt prematurely, that
represents the end. It's the end of an era. And
and you would just have to assume that the GM
and the head coach are both going to be gone
after this season. You become a laying duck organization for
at least a year if you get rid of t J. Watt.
(17:07):
That's how important he is to the situation.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
And look, it's not to say that TJ. Watt's not
been a pain in the ass and negotiations, or that
there have been some things out there about how difficult
he is to negotiate with or deal with. All of
that could be true. Here's what else is true. That
dude's a Hall of Famer and can still play at
a high level, and you need him, especially to get
(17:30):
after a quarterback and a division where you've got to
also probable Hall of Famers and Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow.
Like I mean, trading away TJ. Watt would feel like
a Bengals move, not a Steelers move. And if you're
the Steelers, like you don't want to have that stain
or that rep You don't want to be As you mentioned,
(17:51):
the next Saquon Barkley especially, you know a guy who
wants to and that's.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
A lot that can happen there. That would be a
one hundred lock. Yeah, to go somewhere else, and it
wouldn't I don't know what type of team it would be,
but if he went to a team that would like say,
say Kansas City got TJ. Watt, Oh my god, exactly, exactly.
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That'll be yours right here on FSRUH. We did get
a little piece of news yesterday out of the NFL.
A congratulations to Rodney Harrison. He will go into the
(19:51):
Chargers Hall of Fame. That was information was given to
him as he was waiting in the parking lot outside
I had his daughter's volleyball tournament. He got a FaceTime
from Jim Harbaugh, the coach of the Chargers, to let
him know that he was going into the Chargers Hall
of Fame along the with greats like Ladanian, Tomlinson, Antonio Gates,
(20:14):
Junior seou So, Rodney, Harrison well deserved goes into the
Chargers Hall of Fame. And I don't know that there's
a lot of people, by the way, speaking of a
guy who not yeah, not built for today's game.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
He crashed out on me. Did he really? Yes? He did?
Speaker 1 (20:34):
What happened? Uh uh?
Speaker 2 (20:39):
There was a play Doug Flutey did something. I don't know.
I felt like somebody moved. I went through the line
of scrimmage and I hit Doug flute and knocked him
on his back. And Harrison Rodney just crashed out, man like.
He was like hollering at me, Dad, if you up
(21:01):
did that? That? That this? That? So he ain't afraid.
I'll tell you that.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Because he's a leather neck Western Illinois baby.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
He's one afraid bro. I told him, I'll beat your
ass on this field, off this field, wherever you like it,
I'll beat the I'll beat the f out of you.
Brouh you ever talked to me that way? We was talking.
We was talking greasy to one another. I mean, he
picked the right one to talk to that way. We definitely,
(21:31):
we definitely, you know, exchanged some some very very non
pleasant pleasantries to one another during the course of that exchange.
But I respected it. And and you know, the one
thing about it is is if if somebody would, if say,
I would have hit our quarterback and was called for
an off side and then a personal foul, I would
(21:53):
have been telling as much as I loved Jay Jr.
I would have been telling him the same thing. I
would have been saying the same thing if it was
Rodney Harris, and I would have been saying the same thing.
So he's one of those type guys you hate him
as an opponent, you love him as your teammate type dudes,
you know, and he's well deserving of it. I mean,
I don't know his let me look him up. I
(22:14):
felt like he had a Hall of Fame career, man,
I mean, I really do. He was one of them
special they they always talk about certain safeties like and
it always starts with Paulamalu, you know, which it should
start with Ronnie Lott, by the way. But you know
a lot of people bring up you know, Polamalu and
(22:36):
Ed Reed, and then it's kind of like they stop
or they bring in Sean Taylor, you know, and and
they talk about those guys and deservingly so not not
saying not deservingly, but but there have been some guys
that had really played this game at a at a
very very high level, and Rodney Harrison was definitely, you know,
(23:00):
he was definitely one of them.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
First team All Pro twice, second Team All Pro was
fourth and Player of the Year, Defensive Player of the
Year voting one year, won a couple of Super Bowls
in New England, obviously Pro Bowls. I mean, the fact
that he's not in the Pro Football Hall of Fame
is a little bit surprising. And I don't know that
(23:23):
you put him, you know, on obviously, you know, maybe
not the Ed Reed level and all that, but he
was still a great player, and I wonder he's got
It's kind of interesting because he played nine years with
the Chargers, and I wonder if nationally there's more people
that remember his time with the Patriots because of those
(23:43):
big games.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
That he played in, which is crazy because he was
a way, way, way way younger, more spry player in
San Diego.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
And it's not like he didn't play in a Super
Bowl with San Diego. Remember they they got blown out
by the Niners, but he did.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Beat They beat Mas Steelers to get there. You know
what's crazy is him. It was him and Junior. That's it.
Like you might look at Natron Means and you know
a couple other people that you know, Curtis Conway I
believe was a guy Stan Humphries, Like there have been
some guys like who was the dude that had the
(24:19):
light the light visor that was the defensive end for them.
I mean they had they had some guys, you know
what I'm talking about. They had some guys on on
their team. And the two that always stood out the
most until l T and Sean Merriman got there, and
(24:41):
you know, Sean Phillips and Thosing Gates. You know, until
that era of time, the pre era to that, it
was all Rodney, Harrison and Junior sayout all all like
literally all them. I mean you could throw Edwards in
there too. The linebacker at Donnie Edwards was was dope
as hell for the Chargers as well. But man, it
(25:06):
was Junior in Rodney. Man, it was the Junior and
Rodney Show for sure.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Yeah they were, and it's just you know, and then
he's still waiting around. I also would say this from abroad,
I've loved Rodney Harrison as a broadcaster because he's one
of those guys that is, Look, I know, I'm a
former player. I'm not going to be a kiss ass
to former players. I don't care. I'm going to tell
it how it is. This is my thoughts on it.
(25:32):
There's some people that push back on it and say, well,
who are you to talk like? You're not one to
talk considering your reputation as a player, whether it's dirty hits,
people forget it. Sort of sparked the Kurt Warner run
in Saint Louis because it was Rodney Harrison who went
low against Trent Green. There's there's been other incidents that
(25:55):
have popped up when it comes to Rodney Harrison. He
was fined a significant amount of money throughout the course
of his career, But that dude was a great player,
and I think that people look more at his run
with the Patriots than they do his run with the Chargers.
And he was in San Diego way longer. And I
(26:16):
don't know if that's because it was San Diego. And
this is not to be insulting or offensive to San
Diego Charger fans or people listening in San Diego. But look,
the team left for a reason. I mean, they're clearly
the market. The visibility wasn't the same as it was
in New England. So when he went to New England
(26:37):
and was able to win Super Bowls there, I think
it put his career on another level. And the fact
that he's still waiting around for a Hall of Fame
bid is kind of strange. That's kind of odd to me.
I guess, you know, there's a few of them out there.
I guess he's one of those names to add, you know,
Darren Woodson, he's a name to add. He continues to
(26:57):
wait on getting getting a NOD and getting into the
Pro Football.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Hall of Fame. You know, there's a lot of them
out there. But Rodney Harrison definitely is was a generational
player and definitely was a special football player. I think
he does an excellent job as well. The one thing
I love about Rodney is that he just don't give
an f at all. Like you can say what you
want about him, you know, And I tend to try
(27:25):
to pattern myself after guys like that, you know, growing
up watching them, even now being in this type of
environment where I do media, I try to do it
the same exact way. I could care less what people say.
You know, you could say I stink, you could say this,
that and the other. I'm gonna have a good time
with it because at the end of the day, I'm
(27:46):
getting paid to do the job. You get zero for
saying damn you know what I mean. So it's like
I get behind the microphone, I know what I know,
I've experienced what I've experienced, and continue to learn, continue
to talk to people, you know that are within the game,
whether it be you know, top top tier guys, top
(28:07):
top level you know, corporate, or if it's the players themselves.
I try to stay connected to it as much as
I possibly can and and give give my perspective, you know,
because that's what this is. When you do talk radio,
you're you're here to give perspective for him. He's he's
an analyst, a studio guy, and he's brought in to
(28:28):
give his opinions and his perspective, which is based upon
your experiences and how you see them. So if you
tell me my my my perspective is some s, then
that's fine, but I'm nonetheless still giving you genuine, authentic
perspective and that will never change. And that's one thing
(28:51):
as a player that I always respected about Rodney Harrison,
but I also respect it from him as as a
media personality too.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
He could crack man.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Oh he brought that hat brought.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
He was one of those big shoulder pad safety guys.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
That would just lay the lumber like he didn't care
if he knocked himself out. No, that's the thing about it.
He'll knock you out and he might knock himself out,
but it didn't matter. He's still he's going to bring.
He was what you He was a dude that brought
the noise. You're going and get them, Woodley.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
The name that we were looking for was Leslie O'Neil.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Leslie O'Neill.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
There you go, great player. Chris Mims was on that team.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Chris, that's a good one.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Chargers had something. But I ought to show you how
good that forty nine Ers team was because that wasn't close.
That was a complete wipe out. And I still remember
this watching that Chargers Steelers AFC Championship game, and I
remember it was a play at the goal line and
my nephew was a die hard Steelers fan, and I
(29:54):
just remember the ball was batted down at the goal line.
The Chargers win in three rivers. It was an upset
and I remember him running out of the room crying,
and I'm looking at it going how did San Diego
win that game? Because everyone thought the Steelers are going
to the Super Bowl and that was one.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Of those it have been a much better game, I'll
tell you that, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
And it was also that was people forget that there
was a real discussion that was being had. Man is
Bill Keller ever going to get this team over the hump?
Like is Bill Cower ever going to get this team
to a super Bowl? And eventually they got there, but
they lost that Super Bowl either the next year or
the year after to Dallas in you know, in Arizona,
(30:36):
and then ultimately they ended up winning it and that
was you know, Bill Cower's final game. But yeah, Rodney
Harrison going to be a Hall of Famer, going into
the Chargers Hall of Fame, well deserved, and maybe one
day it'll eventually lead into a Pro Football Hall of fame,
nod for him, But there's a great Chargers team, and
go back to that. By the way, enough with the
powder blue crap. Go back to those Chargers jerseys, those unis.
(30:59):
I don't want to here at the powder blue st like.
Go back dark blue, thick lightning bolt across the helmet
and let's ride with that here. I don't care. They're
not in San Diego anymore. Make that happen. By the way,
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Speaker 5 (31:41):
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Speaker 2 (31:58):
That's got to be racist.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
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These might smell a little funk, sounds incredible, but they're
(32:42):
still good. Time to find out what's lack? It's Lee's
lap jobs, all right to laugh? What do we got? Well?
Speaker 3 (32:50):
It is July first, and you know what that signifies?
What it's Bobby Benia day.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Oh wow, bucks and change. Huh yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
One point nine million dollars every year on July first,
for from now until twenty thirty five, another ten years.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
That's crazy million bussy, what an amazing deal he did?
Like that is so wowd deferred it?
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Yeah, damn. I mean, I just hope that I'm around
doing radio in twenty thirty six so that I can
officially announce that this story is over.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Damn.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
That'd be nice. Just go ahead and uh we can
move on. Matt. I'm just tired of hearing about it,
like he gets a million dollars in change every year.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Every year. You got your ass up early as hell
every day working. You ain't making that.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Damn. Yeah, it's true, though.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
He just sits around and it just comes around July thirsday,
that's true. Get it.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
I gotta play bumper cars with a bunch of alcoholics
on the road at two in the morning to get
into the studio, and Bobby Bania just sits back and goes, yeah,
just leave that check over there next to the other
ones I get each year. Damn it.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
For thirty five more years? What week? Notre years?
Speaker 1 (34:18):
What a humbling reminder?
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Dag, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
What else we got guys? In case you missed it.
Did you see the father who jumped off the Disney
cruise yesterday?
Speaker 2 (34:35):
I heard about it. Yeah, I didn't see it yet,
but I heard it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
His four year old apparently squeezed through the cracks, fell
off the fourth deck of the Disney cruise, and the
father quickly sprung into action jumped in after him. Thankfully,
everybody on the ship turned around, saved the father and
the child.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
So good story there on.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
A cruise, on a cruise They turned the ship around
and save the kid and the dad on a cruise ship.
That is wow, cheese.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
He's a better man than me.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
I mean, they say, I mean, if that's my son,
if you can make one, you can make more than one.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
If that's if that's my son. I'm looking over the
edge going.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
River side, Well that would be ocean side.
Speaker 6 (35:29):
He seaside, open seaside.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
What I just saw that? Well, okay, what hell is
really guys?
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Triple A has announced that this fourth of July is
expected to break all records, with seventy two point two
million Americans traveling on the road for at least fifty
miles or longer. That will include our very own Lorena,
who's high tailing it. Right after the show today to
her home state of Oregon.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Wait, hold on, hold on, noh, like, so you're not
going to be in the rest of the week.
Speaker 7 (36:09):
No, I'm not going to be in the rest of
the week. Well, we don't miss me too much.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Either, are we? So what you may neither? Are we?
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Well, we're not going to be in this time slot
necessarily all week.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Oh that is right. Dang, I forgot you guys.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Get to sleep in.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Tomorrow, not tomorrow. You're going tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
I mean I'll still wake up at the same time
because somebody's got to.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Keep the consistency going here. And apparently who's taking our
show while we do another show?
Speaker 1 (36:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Uh, I can look that.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
I should know that, shouldn't I probably?
Speaker 4 (36:48):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (36:48):
God?
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Well, hey, Lorenda, how long is that drive from here
to Coos Bay?
Speaker 7 (36:54):
Right here? It's eleven hours and thirty five minutes.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
So how do you break that up? Do you go
half take a rest?
Speaker 7 (37:00):
Well usually I do half and then arrest.
Speaker 8 (37:02):
But since I didn't sleep, I'm probably gonna get about
three hours in and then I'm gonna stop and take
a nap at a rest stop.
Speaker 7 (37:09):
Pray I don't get murdered.
Speaker 8 (37:10):
And then uh, then we're gonna drive a few more
hours until I get tired again, and I want to
take in another nap.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
By the way, I've done that, take a nap at
a rest stop like an hour or so.
Speaker 7 (37:19):
Oh, it's so good, it's so.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
I don't know, didn't feel like the safest thing in
the world.
Speaker 7 (37:24):
I got my fish cutter. You don't worry about me.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
See, you're taking the five which if you're taking the
one A one up, it's great.
Speaker 7 (37:33):
Five hours. That adds another five hours here.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
What you get?
Speaker 7 (37:36):
And I've done that route. It's not fun.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Jason Fits and Buck Rising, by the way, filling in
for us so ill a good show?
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Yeah they do. Yeah, they're great. I love those guys.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Oh, by the way, she's going to be driving back
in a brand new vehicle.
Speaker 7 (37:56):
Oh yes, I forgot.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
She's getting a new car.
Speaker 7 (38:01):
Has someone bought me a new car?
Speaker 4 (38:02):
Bar?
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Are you being serious?
Speaker 7 (38:04):
No?
Speaker 8 (38:06):
But anytime?
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Probably.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
You know what you can do up to Oregon. You
can take the train, you can take Amtrak, which is
oh yeah, just sweet, take it to Seattle.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Yeah, or trying to Oregon like Eugene, Oregon.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Yeah, probably I'm not kidding. I just took. I took,
We took the Amtrak, the surf Liner, Pacific surf Liner.
We went up to the beach a couple of weeks ago.
It's the best.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Man. I didn't even think about that as an.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Oh my god, if I could. My dad's done that
to where he took the uh the Amtrak from Union
Station in Los Angeles all the way to Galesburg, Illinois
to see his family years ago. And you can go
like you run out these state rooms and it is awesome.
You just see parts of the country, you hang out.
You don't got to worry about getting on a plane.
(38:57):
It takes a lot longer, but you know how much
work you could get done, and how relaxing that must be.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Relaxing. Yeah, it's the idea of it being relaxing or riffed.
You can get well, you could get riffed on the airplane.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (39:09):
I just feel like it should be more cost efficient.
If you're going to take a slower method to get there,
it should be cheaper. And it's not. Trains are still expensive.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Everything's cheap.
Speaker 7 (39:19):
Trains and automobiles.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
No, it's not depends on.
Speaker 7 (39:23):
No, Yes, it is. Go look up those train tickets.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Yeah, but you don't have to drive. If you're in
a train, you're just hanging out.
Speaker 7 (39:28):
I do see your point.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
There, I just don't. I mean, a train is probably
in between driving and flying as as the best alternaty.
It's better than driving because you don't have to do
it unless you love driving. It's better than the airplane
because well you're not in the in the in the
in the sky, and it's cheaper.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Yeah, And you just got to you got to just
hope that you know, some burnout doesn't walk across the
tracks because they're upset about some breakup and you know,
get interest impedes everything because that'll add another at least
four or five hours onto it clean all that up.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
I gotta worry about if your car breaks down to
like there's always the stress of like is your car
going to are you gonna pop a tire? Like do
you got to get roadside? Where are you at when
you get that roadside? Do you have you know, sell
service all man, Jump on that train, Jump on that train.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
If you control that off to go see uh, to
go up to Oregon if you get pull that off?
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Looking that up. Soon as I get off air. I
didn't even think about that.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
You would get throttled on it.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
I mean, you know, I'm gonna make sure I'm tightened
up before I get up on there. Take this little
nap later
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