October 17, 2025 • 41 mins
Jonas and LaVar open hour 3 joined by Albert Breer for all things football. Plus, the guys discuss Curt Cignetti's extension for Indiana + more fun with a new edition of "The Leftovers"!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:33):
It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here
on Fox Sports Radio. Oh oh, double up, ooh ooh ooh,
LaVar Arrington, Jonas noxet the here a no, Brady Quinn, Hey,
who cares? Black and Dracot you covered here on a
football Friday.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
I get to talk less. Now I can have like, hey, bribe,
be talking about Lord. You talked too much? Hey Bro,
when Ques here, I don't have to say anything. I
just say yeah, you're right, No, you're wrong. Yeah, I run.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I ran to the liquor store a couple of days ago.
Christ Bro came back still going, man.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
So don't don't be saying who cares like I still
get my check. I get to chill out, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
It's hanging, chilling man hanging and banging man.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Hanging and banging, slanging and banging, dig.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Dig it all right, So, uh so it is a
tradition every single Thursday, but instead it's a special one. No, well,
if we want the Ohio State fight, so I'm probably
that would probably be fun. Yeah that was Notre Dame,
wasn't or was that Michigan?
Speaker 5 (01:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
That was that was.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
All right? That was that was dangerous if you hit
the Michigan. But well with that, nobody likes Michigan around here.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
With that said, we turn it over to the one
and only Albert Brier, Senior and if our reporter, lead
content strategist at the MMQB. You can get him on
x at Albert Breer AB. Happy Friday, Happy Football Friday
to you and yours.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
Happy Friday, guys. I uh yeah that first song you
were playing, isn't there some sort of second year rivalry
this weekend? Right? I think?
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Yes, yeah, yeah, that's yeah. Yeah, it could be gone,
could be uh, it could be doing away with it.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
You know, I will say that sucks, like I can't
believe that, Like, I can't believe that that's being allowed
to happen. And I mean I know it's like a
result of conference rey alignment and all that, but thats
just it just sucks the idea of stuff like that
to go away.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
I'm sure Brady w with me there gun right, Well
now he's not in I think everybody would agree. It's
like remember when Mike Gundy was like, well, you know,
the uh, the Oklahoma Oklahoma state rivalry is dead because
they change conferences. It's like, man, I feel like with
non conference schedules, there was probably a way that you
could figure that went out to still exist. Like it
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just feels like there's some ways to do it, and yeah,
it's a bummer.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Just do it. I mean that's the bottom line. You
just you play the game. There's just some things like
would could you imagine if they're, oh, we're going to
do away with the Ohio State Michigan game, Like, ah,
just doesn't make sense anymore. Like come on, man, there's
just certain things you just do, Like it's not even
worth a discussion. You just do it. There's nothing to
figure out.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
You just do it, right, doesn't like Penn used to
play every.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Year, right, yes, yeah, and that was a big that
was a big deal. But you got to keep in
mind though we still played a second fiddle to West
Virginia and Pitt The Backyard Brawl was a real that
was a real rivalry, you know what I mean, Like
Penn State. Yeah it was a thing, but it wasn't
like it did not weigh the Backyard Brawl, So you
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know what I mean, Like there's there's a there's some
like like the Red River or or the what the
fight for Paul Bunyan's or whatever. Like when you create
these types of rivalries, and especially the ones that have
lasted through like time, like since the beginning, you can't
do that. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
A coach cannot make that type of decision.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
You can't. I don't just if you got to take
that al, you take that ale like that's the bottomless
I'm going to do.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
That should not be like that should not be in
like some coach or TV executive. That should not be
under that.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
That'd be gone, Right, they'll be gone in a year
or two, like maybe even even if they get a
twenty thirty year run, a forty year run of working
doesn't matter doesn't outweigh what the rivalry represents. It's just
it's crazy to make people allow people to get involved
with business that way. But yeah, I digress, Albert.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
I got a question for you. I know, obviously Ohio
state near and dear to your heart. There was a
big game in Ohio last night, Bengals getting a win
over the Steelers. And what makes that in a little
bit more competitive than what we thought it was going
to look like with all the injuries at quarterback and
whatnot in the Steelers performance. When Mike Tomlin was talking
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about Andrew Berry trading Joe Flacco within the division, was
that sort of him kind of throwing up a flair gun, like, uh,
this could be a problem that guy on that team
with those receipts and those weapons, Like, I don't you know,
Like what was Andrew Berry thinking? Because watching that game,
it's like, man, all of a sudden, you're feeling about
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the Bengals and their chances moving forward have completely switched
in a week.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
I agree. I mean, I personally think so Mike Tomlin
and Kevin Stefanski have a good relationship. I think it's
Mike Tomlin getting that Kevin Stefanski's back and knowing that
that was a Steanski's call and feeling like the coaches
maybe got like that this was something that like maybe
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the coaches wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Have done, you know.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
And I think there's a fraternity there with those guys
where they can see when these things happen and they
feel for their colleagues, you know. So I think that
that's what that was. And I'm with you. I think
this changes the dynamic, like I felt this way when
they trade it for him. You know, a lot of
people said like, oh, we can't move anymore behind that
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offensive line. I'm like, have you seen who he's going
to be throwing to? How long? With those receivers? Do
you think he's going to have to hold on to
the ball? Do you actually think this is going to
be like Jake Browning where he doesn't isn't he isn't
deciphering what he's seeing, or he's in the forty year
old quarterback's going to be able to go in there
and get rid of the ball fast and put Jamar
Chase and t Higgins in the position to make plays.
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And that's what it is. That's the Bengals saw, Well,
it's Okay, like we've got a little bit of an
offensive li top, we still have the great weapons. How
do we mitigate that and how do we put together
an offense in the drop back game that's closest to
what Joe Burrow is doing so we can maximize the
other ten guys in the huddle. And that's why Joe
made sense for them. And really they're not asking Joe
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to be Superman, although he kind of was last night.
What they're asking him to do is just get them
back to level ground. And you know, I have a
game December fourteen circled in my head, right, like the
Bengals play the Ravens that day and that's thirteen games
in for them, So like to me, it's like that's
three months after that's three months of the day of
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Joe Burrow's injury. So to me, I look at it
and I say, can you get to that date? Can
you get to that date and be seven and six?
Because if you can now, all of a sudden, you
got Joe Burrow back in the lineup. And are we
talking about the Bengals are really dangerous if they can
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get in it, you know what I mean? Because the
AFC is a little sideways. So the whole idea in
getting Placau was how do we maximize the guys in
that huddle and can we get to December and get
Joe Burrow back in a situation where we're still playing
relevant games because every opportunity you have to go into
January with a quarterback like Joe Burrow as gold. I
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think that's where they're at and it came together last night.
They've got the Jets, they've got the Bears, then they've
got their buy. They don't play on the road for
another month. I mean, you can see them being five
and four when they play the Steelers again a month
from now in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
What's it going to take to get cam Ward into
relevant games into the season? Do you mean the less
what's going to what is it going to take?
Speaker 5 (08:39):
I mean, I just think stabilities of Borrow and that's
the biggest thing. And it sucks for all the young
quarterbacks where this happened. It seems to happen over and
over again. I'm sure you guys saw that earlier this
week that the last four number one overall pick quarterbacks
have gone through mid seasons firings. This rookie that's like
textbook how not to do it. You do know what
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I mean organizationally when it comes to developing a quarterback.
But that's what it was for Trevor Lawrence when he
was a rookie with Urban Meyer. That's what it was
for Bryce Young when he was a rookie with Frank right.
And that's what it was for Caleb Williams last year
when he was a rookie with Matty's. And so you know,
the biggest thing I think for Cam is they that
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the Titans have to find a way to stabilize the
situation around him and put an incod infrastructure. And that
doesn't need to mean, you know, it doesn't necessarily mean
we have to hire a head coach to the quarterbacks guy.
I mean I last time, Jed Dregy is doing just
fine with the defensive head coach right like in Mike Rabel.
So you know what it does mean is that you
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have to I think, create a stable situation around him. Man,
that can start now, you know, it's like the boy
being involved obviously, you know, like but you know, I
think as far as your long term planning goes, like
you have to have a plan that's sustainable, So you're
not doing this again to him in a year or two,
you know, and you want to try to create like
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the that situation you possibly can for him. And now
they've got a lot of runway to do that. Obviously.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Albert Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, let
me ask you about Mike Rabel. Obviously he returns back
to Nashville. LeVar and I were speculating maybe he gets
a little petty while he's there, like, just just remind
me again why they were better off without him? Like,
how did that go? Because upon further review, the Titans
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look like a clown show based on their decision making
with not only that but Derek Henry, who clearly still
has something left in the tank.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
What was the plan there?
Speaker 5 (10:45):
Well, I mean a short answer is they weren't better off, right.
The longer answer is a little more complicated. So they
fire Gen Robinson. The owner does not like being embarrassed
aj Brown and bears the owner in the organization. In
twenty twenty two, in December, he went for like eight
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one sixty whatever it was. And so two days later
the owner decide she's firing the general mansisteracture. So John
Robinson ats fired at the end of twenty two, and
then going into twenty three, they give Mike Brabele a
ton of power, and for better or worse, there was
a feel in that organization that you were either a
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Mike Brable guy or you weren't, and it was a
little siloed offs there. Right, you hire a general manager
who did that size yam and ran carthon on and
they go through the year and she more or less
decide I don't like the way the building feels right now,
and I don't like the structure. I don't think this
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is the right structure. And at that point you the
only way to take the power away from Mike Brabel
was the fire us. So they kind of got themselves
like tied up in It's like, okay, well, I don't
like the aj Brown trade anymore, so I fired the GM,
So I'm going to give the coach the power. Oh wait,
I don't like having a coach who has that much power,
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So now I'm going to just blow the whole thing
up completely. And that's how they end up where they
end up. Now, I would argue John Robinson inherited it
free and thirteen came into twenty sixteen, was walked in
with Marcus Mariota as his quarterback when he had inherited
and he had six straight winning seasons. Rayville came aboard
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and the third of those seasons he made the playoffs
three times in four years, won two division titles on
to an AFT title game. I think those guys aren't
the right to rebuild it right the door of their
head age shout. But she was so focused on what
was six inches in front of her face, which is
what was happening right now in both those circumstances, then
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she wound up tearing down, you know, a structure that
was really working for that and then have built an
identity there. And uh, you know, I think it's an
owner's job in that situation to me, at least when
there is some issues, you know, and when there are
there is some back and forth the way the owner's job.
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The owners have very many jobs on the football side,
but making those things work is one of them. And she,
instead of making it that work, started firing people. And
now we see the results.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Let me let me ask you about what's going on
in New York. I believe Dan Campbell's record his first
year in Detroit West three and thirteen if my memory
ERNs me correctly, Yeah and one. That's a horrible record,
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horrible record, and most people won't recall that. That's how
low the Detroit line started off after that fiery presser
that that Dan Campbell delivered and bite kneecaps and punching
ankle you know, ankles and stuff like that. Uh, Aaron
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Glenn's going through the same thing right now, could possibly
outdo three and thirteen and one in New York. And
you hear whispers and murmurs and and things coming out
popping up. Should Aaron Glenn be fired? How should fans
be reacting to this? I mean, is this a place
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where the same thing that happened in Detroit could actually
happen again in New York?
Speaker 5 (14:45):
I think you have to be patient, LeVar, you know,
I think, like you said, like in Detroit they were
zero to nine, they were ten and one, and they
finished that season three and three. If you remember, like
over the course that season, like you started to see
hope and that like a play style was emerging. You
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started to see like, all right, like this is a
team that actually they have an identity and they're not
there yet. From a roster standpoint, but we're starting to
see some things we like, and then it manifested wins
at the end of the year, and they had some
momentum going into the next year, and then the next
year didn't start out great either. If you remember what
they caught fire in the middle of that year and
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they were often running and how they are what they are.
I think that's what you're looking for now, right is
all right? You've had your rough start, inherited a roster
that I thought was really good. I know some people
in that building feel like maybe it was a little
bit overrated, and so what you're looking for I think
the rest of the year the play style and identity,
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Like you want to see who they are, and you
would hope by the end of the year that starts
to manifest and wins the way I did at the
end of the end of the year in Detroit. So
that's where the hope is me is like Aaron Glen
growing into the role, but also like just starting to
see what he wants them to become. Because I think
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even when the Lions were as bad as they were
that first year, by the end of that year we
had a good idea of what Dan Campbell was trying
to build, And so that's what I'd be looking for
if I were a Jets fan, right.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Albert Breers, Senior NFL reporter, lead content strategists with us
here on Fox Sports Radio, it's two pros and a
cup of Joe. Here on FSR SO trade deadlines coming
up in a couple of weeks, Alvin Kamara said, you know,
if you trade me, I'll just go drink Pina coladas.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
So he seems to be off the table.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Joe Flacco's already been traded. What are we looking at?
Are their names out there to watch situations to monitor
that you go, you know, something could pop off there?
Speaker 5 (16:51):
Sure, I mean I think it's like the easy thing
to do is like just look at like which teams
are gonna be waving the white flag now? You know,
Like last night game's a good example, right, Like there's
a lot of talk about Trey Hendrickson. Thing goes right
down a little bit, like they've got two games that
are winnable between now and the trade deadline. I think,
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like you look at that and say, Henry, it makes
sense for them to Keith Endrances, right, Like, so like
which teams are we looking at? I'd say the Saints
are one, although Mickey Woman's has always been very reluctant
to move guy. So like, is the Mario Davis valuable
to somebody? I can't imagine what trade Cam Jordan's just
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based on what he needs the franchise. But Crystal Lave,
Like if you come and you ask Christal Lave and
they haven't signed him to a long term extension, like
maybe he's somebody who are looking at. The Jets would
be another one, you know, Jermaine Johnson. Could you find
a way to try him if they aren't playing outside
of him Lungs or Briest Hall. That's an obvious one, right, Like,
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I mean they don't have him signed and uh and
he's a free agent after the year. Miami they're better
in pass rushers Bradley Chubb, Jalen Phillips. So like, I
think you're looking at teams that have some mask that
you know, and like you look at Tennessee also, but
who does Tennessee have that he would really be like, yeah,
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like let me go get him, Like maybe Calvin Ridley, right, Like,
so those are the teams I think you'd be looking
at teams that maybe like are in a position where
they have to be a little bit more realistic with
themselves about where they are, you know, and then you
you you look at the guys contract situations that you
go from there.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
I'm good, all right, Well, Albert, we've taken enough of
his time.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
I'll pause like I was going to keep going like that.
We're good, all right?
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Well what I mean?
Speaker 6 (18:46):
You know?
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Now?
Speaker 5 (18:47):
Now I got a question, Lamar, who's your coach.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Going to be? I don't know. Are you hopeful that
can beat Ohio State?
Speaker 5 (18:57):
Are you? Are you an next teammate of one of
the candidates? Is that right? I think you are right.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
I don't know. Well played, I do not know.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
I think that's right, right, I think I have my
timeline right here.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
I think that's correct.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
I do not I do not know.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
Yeah, it might have been, might have been in the
same position going with you, I think I think I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Who are you speaking of?
Speaker 3 (19:19):
I never heard of it A be speaking of a
speaking of college? It is that time. We've got to
ask you a question. So you know, with that being said,
you representing Columbus in the way that you do, do
you believe at the end of this week's game against
Wisconsin that Ohio State will have won by more than
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twenty five and a half points.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
I do, I do, although I like, hey look like
Luke Figgles and a love figure in Columbus Bribe and
By and Day. I believe with the staff made of
Luke's for a year. So I don't think this is
like a went on the gas in the fourth quarter
game for them, So like that'd be my one concern.
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Like for me, I think they would. I think they cover,
but I'm not sure. I would you this fine if
I were that, because I could see the fuck coming
off the gas a little bit. They're in the fourth
quarter with some sympathy for the guys.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Oh so they're gonna show They're going to show some
mercy there.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
And they're not a good team. Let's call it what
it is. They're not a good team.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
But God's is that? Yeah, so you're right, we're a
good tea. Yeah, yeah, it's not.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
It's not like Wisconsin used to strike fear into you
when you heard that name. It's not the same Wisconsin.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
So when we talk about identity, you knew.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
What they were, right, You knew what they were coming in.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
They look like they were, i mean, the most the
toughest post physical team you play all year. They were
that for twenty five years.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Right, that's right, that's right, Mother than that baby.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
So I heard there's not even enough people. I heard
there's not even enough people left by the fourth quarter
to do jump around anymore at those games. Right, No,
I'm just I made that. That's just I'm just possible.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
I mean, they probably just hang around just for that though.
That's probably the only thing that keeps them coming to
the games, to the bar. And I'm not one, and
I can't. I am not the calling the kettle black
right here, I'll tell you that.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
But I.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
Appreciation in my heart. I mean, Camp Randle is really
just a big outdoor bar anyway, right.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Yeah, yeah, it is.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
It's fun for you get it in. That's one of
the best places to play a game. It was one
of the hardest places to play a game, but not
so much anymore.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
All right, there he is, ab, We appreciate it. We'll
do it again next week. There is a great Albert
Breer will us here on Fox Sports Radio, senior NFL reporter,
lead content strategist.
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He's still moving.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
This socks sucks? Eh?
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Whoa so bad?
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Speaker 4 (24:25):
Oh wow, okay, is that why you play it?
Speaker 5 (24:28):
Yes?
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that is, you know, and.
Speaker 7 (24:33):
They're still gone. They haven't won anything in how long?
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Yeah?
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Speaker 4 (24:54):
And drag photo? Look pretty smooth?
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Why are you playing guitar and I just look like there,
just looking like Dracula.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Well, because you're Dracula, you don't need to have any
more swag than than what you already had. It's all right,
You've got enough.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
You got dreads, you got shades, you get a nice jacket,
nice guitar.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
I mean, why are you? Why are you like jealous
about that? But I look like a creeper, well because
you are. I look like your Dracula.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
I look like z.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Watching. I hate that you're looking at me in the photo.
Then maybe I just feel like I feel like that
photo if it had like a beard on you, like
it would be all the way you and then it
would be like a real vibe because like the way
that dude is dressed and the way he looks outside
of the beard color being white versus being his hair
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is still black. I feel like that's me, Like they
caught me on this one, you know what I mean,
Like that's that's my vibe right here.
Speaker 8 (25:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Can you ai generate Dracula with facial hair?
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Is that?
Speaker 4 (26:00):
I don't know?
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Because I mean, if that's the case, I mean that
would work, Like you don't even you don't have in
bald he's never had hair on his face.
Speaker 7 (26:07):
You'd be the first, really, you know, all.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
The Dracula movies, No, Dracula never had hair on his face.
Speaker 7 (26:13):
I don't think he's ever had hair on his face.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
His old ass couldn't grow a beard.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Lame, he just kept that youthful look. That's all y'all
have that like chisel chisel face.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
What about the Lost Boys? None of those guys had
facial hair.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
They have facial hair? Yeah, absolutely yeah they did.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Oh I do know this.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Maybe they didn't though I don't know, man not, I'm
thinking about it. Maybe they didn't have facial hair. And
now I got KEI for Sutherland had to have have
facial hair. Yeah, seems like he would.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Well I know this that we are going to have
the leftovers coming up here in a little over fifteen
minutes from now.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
It was very scarce bruh. Nobody had.
Speaker 9 (26:54):
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FSR and subscribe. So Albert Breer was trying to got
you into uh throwing out names for the Penn State
opening when it comes to a head coach, one of
the names that will not be on that list, especially
(27:38):
after the news account.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Yeah the sig, the sig got paid. Go ahead, Indiana.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Good for you. Yeah, good for you. Don't play around
with it. That's how this all works, though. You you
can play around with something and you can own something,
like own it, like this man has turned your program around.
He's he's got a personality that could fit anybody's organization,
anybody's university. And I mean, you're having success. Why play
(28:10):
around with it?
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Eight years, ninety three million, he gets eleven point six
million a year. Put some of the top three of
highest paid coaches in the country, and he was excited
about it yesterday.
Speaker 8 (28:23):
My wife Minette and I love Indiana University, Bloomington, the
state of Indiana. The people we've met with have very
strong feelings about President Whitten and Scott Dolson. And we've
accomplished a lot here in a short amount of time,
but still have a lot of work to do. So
I couldn't be more proud to be a Hoosier and
I plan on retiring as a Hoosier, and the way
(28:46):
that this state has embraced us in our success in
football has meant more to me than anything else. So
I just wanted to get on camera and let you
know that Kurt Signette is going to work daily to
make Indiana the best they can be.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
I'm a little third person there as well too. You
know what, if you get that kind of money, he
can go third person if you've had those results in
Indiana and get that right. And also, why would he
want to go anywhere else where? If you anywhere else,
you go the expectations right off the bat, like we're
hiring you, we expect immediate results. He went to a
(29:23):
place that had been bad, that had you know, hadn't
had a winning season other than the COVID year, And
forever he goes there, they've He's put together the best
season maybe in the history of the program. They were
a playoff team a year ago. Like he's got them,
you know, near the top of the rankings. They just
want a big game in Eugene. He could be that's
(29:48):
his final destination if he wants it. It's like Kirk Farence.
Kirk Farence has been in Iowa for what twenty five years?
Why would he want to go anywhere else? Like if
you if if you were to go anywhere else, you've
got to live up to immediate expectations. Signetty could be
at Bloomington for the next twenty five years if he
wanted to, and just make that the destination now, as
(30:10):
opposed to go and try and live up to expectations
elsewhere and try and bounce around from one lower level
job to a bigger gig.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
When that man was at JMU, he was making four
hundred and twenty five thousand dollars in his first year
and was paid four hundred and fifty nine thousand and
twenty twenty one. Talk about a swinging of the pendulum. Yeah,
(30:38):
then he gets to Indiana and he's he's getting an
annual of over eight million following a successful year, and
now his new contract is paying him just south of
twelve million dollars annually at eleven point six. Talk about
(31:02):
living the American dream, bro and and persevering and putting
your best foot forward. The man all he has done
is win and put his best foot forward and has
climbed the ladder. You know, the right way and now
he gets he gets obviously rewarded with this long term
(31:24):
contract because the bottom line is Kirk Signetti's name certainly
represents what most of these teams are looking for. In fact,
you could say almost all of them, because the NIL,
the NIL era has has created a space and a
place in time where there's only going to be a
(31:47):
handful of guys that can navigate these these rough waters.
The terrain is in the waters of what's going on
in NIL are treacherous. I mean, it's ad and to
have somebody who can still communicate with these athletes, coach
these athletes, motivate these athletes.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Maintain and and and keep them around. It's it's so
many moving.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Parts to being able to be successful at the college
level anymore that if you can find somebody who brings
all of that as a package, you're winning. And so
congrats to Indiana for that. You know, he's proven that
that what he does it works. He's got a nice
(32:36):
little process that that continues to work for him, and
and that's that's the right way to go. I wouldn't
be surprised. When did what when? When was when was
matt rules last contract extension? Was that last year was
that last year?
Speaker 3 (32:55):
I don't even I think vaguely, off the top of
my head, I think I remember that correctly.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
But all I know is if I have one of
the top guys out there that is coaching my team,
I'm locking him in if I know that this NIL
has fit that coach and he's worn it well. Because
what's going to happen, Jonas is this is going to
kill off every single old thinking, old style way of
(33:23):
thinking coach, and it might it might take away the
ads as well. If you do not understand how big
this NIL movement is in this era in time where
it's heading, then you gotta get out of the way.
And the reality of it is is that either you're
going to get out of the way or you're going
(33:45):
to get moved out of the way.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
All right, So let's cut the crap o. Then's Matt
Rule taking the job of pensil.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
I don't I don't know anything about what you think
of man, Yeah, I don't know what you're talking about.
I don't. I don't know what's going to happen.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
He's coming home, you know, if you're in Nebraska. I
don't even I don't even bother giving him a contract extension.
He's leaving. That's his dream gig. That's an opportunity to
come full circle and met his wife there. All right,
he's coming home. All the alums are going to be
coming back. Your former teammate is coming home to Stay College.
(34:21):
Show right now. Everyone was like, oh, go after Signetty,
Like this one makes too much sense. He's close with
Pat Craft like this. This is the one where if
I was somebody in Nebraska, if I was in Lincoln
going he better not leave us, I'd be like, yeah,
but there are exceptions, and this would be an exception.
We could understand why he would want to make the jump,
(34:41):
why he would want to go back to Stay College.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
You never know, Yeah, you never know. Man. I hate
to be cryptic or not, you know, kind of playing
along with what you're saying with with real words and
real information. But you know, I'm too close to the
situation to to be that person on air. It is
only going to be like a few times ever in
my career on the radio with you where I say
(35:08):
something to this effect, but I just can't. I'm too
close to the situation to have any conversations about it.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
You know.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
That's my university. I think people have a strong idea,
good idea. How much I love my university. I have played,
you know, obviously a pretty integral part in a lot
of the things that are taking place at the school,
within the athletics department. So it's just not a conversation
that I'll engage in it as as it unfolds.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Listen, sometimes you know what you can't say, I'll do
it all right. I know you can't go there, but
I haven't said anything to No, you haven't said a
damn thing to me, I mean an anything. The only
thing you ever tell me about every single break one
of the things I can't mention on the air. The
other thing I can mention is how much you love
Louisiana hatsa. It's the only thing ever talk about.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
It is so true. And you know what, Like I
do it at the Stick City tailgates every weekend. So
if you're in State college and you want to come,
say hi, drop on by and you'll see some Louisiana,
original Louisiana hot sauce there that you could scoop up
and score for yourself. Take it to wherever it is
you're going to eat. It has them peppery peppers, the
(36:22):
vinegar and salt, and listen. You may come upon some wings,
some nachos, a burger. There's all kinds of things you
can see out of tailgate. And you know what you'll want,
that bold handcrafted flavor of the original Louisiana Hot sauce.
That's Louisiana Hot. Yeah, buy you some id.
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Speaker 5 (37:26):
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Speaker 3 (37:32):
All, right, Ray, Ray, what do we got?
Speaker 7 (37:34):
We got some interesting leftovers? Today.
Speaker 10 (37:37):
I saw cal Rally in the news. He's become the
center of a very odd giveaway. There is a porn
site that plans to distribute thousands of big dumper toys
as they get closer.
Speaker 7 (37:52):
To the World Series.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
Jesuscribing dumper toys. Yeah, like tunka trucks, like.
Speaker 7 (37:58):
What you may kinda really got a good idea.
Speaker 10 (38:02):
You can go and gander this online. But the company
actually wants they want to work with the team. They
want to work with the team and hands them out
outside of the stadium tea mobile arena. They want to
be outside handing it out to people as they go inside.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
So uh well, I mean, look.
Speaker 7 (38:21):
Fee them as drink floaties.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
I mean people were were sneaking, people were sneaking dildos
into w NBA.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Games, so uh well, this is a little different than that.
Speaker 7 (38:32):
Yeah, and they especially named them the big Dumpers.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
The big Dumpers.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
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Speaker 4 (39:02):
Said you. You can match one of them big dumper
toys with your your bitch spread, you know, your late
night evening.
Speaker 7 (39:12):
Where imagine all teams hopped on this. You can have
a whole collection.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
WHOA, Every team doesn't need to hop on it. I'll
tell you that. WHOA.
Speaker 7 (39:23):
All right, we have this other story. I don't know
if you saw here.
Speaker 10 (39:27):
Travis Hunter got baptized this past Sunday and I love it.
Speaker 7 (39:32):
I want you to hear what he said.
Speaker 5 (39:35):
Yes, why did you do that?
Speaker 4 (39:38):
It's a crazy course And why did I get back
to us Sunday? This guy's day?
Speaker 8 (39:44):
And I've been planning to get baptized for a minute.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
You know, change my life over. Become a better man.
What does it mean? To means a lot? You know,
become to the better man, leaving my old flesh and
he's becoming a new Travis. I mean, maybe it'll become
a better receiver too, like a bad timing. What a
good dude man, he tries to He works to do
(40:10):
things the right way, great student in school, married, married
the woman that he loves, even though people giving a
hard time for it. Yeah, like talk about a dude
that does it the right way and go figure. He
doesn't get a whole lot of headlines anymore, You're not.
Nobody's not talking about Travis Hunter all the time anymore.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
It tells you kind of heat to his point, it
is kind of a strange follow up, like why would
you do that?
Speaker 4 (40:35):
Well, I'll say it could be considered a strange follow up,
but as as somebody who does interviews, we want to
know why. I mean, you could get baptized more than
once in your life, you know what I mean, Like
you could have a baptism when you're a kid. You
can redo it, you know, at any point in time
in high school and college and grown man.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Well, but why else would you get baptized?
Speaker 4 (40:57):
I mean, well, there's different. I mean the would say
that the core of the reason always stays the same, right,
Like you just want to be you want to old
you to die and you want to come out to
new you. But I mean I would want it. I mean,
he why not know why?
Speaker 3 (41:12):
Good for you, Travis?
Speaker 4 (41:13):
Good for you? Why not?
Speaker 5 (41:14):
Why not?
Speaker 4 (41:15):
Travis just answer? You know you got baptized. Tell him
and you answered it like to be a better person.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
By the way, a hell of a medley of stories
Lorena goes from.
Speaker 7 (41:26):
But I was about to say, it's all about being
holy guys,
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Speaker 4 (00:52):
I get to talk less. Now I can have like, hey, bribe,
be talking about Lord. You talked too much? Hey Bro,
when Ques here, I don't have to say anything. I
just say yeah, you're right, No, you're wrong. Yeah, I run.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I ran to the liquor store a couple of days ago.
Christ Bro came back still going, man.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
So don't don't be saying who cares like I still
get my check. I get to chill out, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
It's hanging, chilling man hanging and banging man.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Hanging and banging, slanging and banging, dig.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Dig it all right, So, uh so it is a
tradition every single Thursday, but instead it's a special one. No, well,
if we want the Ohio State fight, so I'm probably
that would probably be fun. Yeah that was Notre Dame,
wasn't or was that Michigan?
Speaker 5 (01:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
That was that was.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
All right? That was that was dangerous if you hit
the Michigan. But well with that, nobody likes Michigan around here.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
With that said, we turn it over to the one
and only Albert Brier, Senior and if our reporter, lead
content strategist at the MMQB. You can get him on
x at Albert Breer AB. Happy Friday, Happy Football Friday
to you and yours.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
Happy Friday, guys. I uh yeah that first song you
were playing, isn't there some sort of second year rivalry
this weekend? Right? I think?
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Yes, yeah, yeah, that's yeah. Yeah, it could be gone,
could be uh, it could be doing away with it.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
You know, I will say that sucks, like I can't
believe that, Like, I can't believe that that's being allowed
to happen. And I mean I know it's like a
result of conference rey alignment and all that, but thats
just it just sucks the idea of stuff like that
to go away.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
I'm sure Brady w with me there gun right, Well
now he's not in I think everybody would agree. It's
like remember when Mike Gundy was like, well, you know,
the uh, the Oklahoma Oklahoma state rivalry is dead because
they change conferences. It's like, man, I feel like with
non conference schedules, there was probably a way that you
could figure that went out to still exist. Like it
(03:01):
just feels like there's some ways to do it, and yeah,
it's a bummer.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Just do it. I mean that's the bottom line. You
just you play the game. There's just some things like
would could you imagine if they're, oh, we're going to
do away with the Ohio State Michigan game, Like, ah,
just doesn't make sense anymore. Like come on, man, there's
just certain things you just do, Like it's not even
worth a discussion. You just do it. There's nothing to
figure out.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
You just do it, right, doesn't like Penn used to
play every.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Year, right, yes, yeah, and that was a big that
was a big deal. But you got to keep in
mind though we still played a second fiddle to West
Virginia and Pitt The Backyard Brawl was a real that
was a real rivalry, you know what I mean, Like
Penn State. Yeah it was a thing, but it wasn't
like it did not weigh the Backyard Brawl, So you
(03:52):
know what I mean, Like there's there's a there's some
like like the Red River or or the what the
fight for Paul Bunyan's or whatever. Like when you create
these types of rivalries, and especially the ones that have
lasted through like time, like since the beginning, you can't
do that. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
A coach cannot make that type of decision.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
You can't. I don't just if you got to take
that al, you take that ale like that's the bottomless
I'm going to do.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
That should not be like that should not be in
like some coach or TV executive. That should not be
under that.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
That'd be gone, Right, they'll be gone in a year
or two, like maybe even even if they get a
twenty thirty year run, a forty year run of working
doesn't matter doesn't outweigh what the rivalry represents. It's just
it's crazy to make people allow people to get involved
with business that way. But yeah, I digress, Albert.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
I got a question for you. I know, obviously Ohio
state near and dear to your heart. There was a
big game in Ohio last night, Bengals getting a win
over the Steelers. And what makes that in a little
bit more competitive than what we thought it was going
to look like with all the injuries at quarterback and
whatnot in the Steelers performance. When Mike Tomlin was talking
(05:08):
about Andrew Berry trading Joe Flacco within the division, was
that sort of him kind of throwing up a flair gun, like, uh,
this could be a problem that guy on that team
with those receipts and those weapons, Like, I don't you know,
Like what was Andrew Berry thinking? Because watching that game,
it's like, man, all of a sudden, you're feeling about
(05:31):
the Bengals and their chances moving forward have completely switched
in a week.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
I agree. I mean, I personally think so Mike Tomlin
and Kevin Stefanski have a good relationship. I think it's
Mike Tomlin getting that Kevin Stefanski's back and knowing that
that was a Steanski's call and feeling like the coaches
maybe got like that this was something that like maybe
(05:56):
the coaches wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Have done, you know.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
And I think there's a fraternity there with those guys
where they can see when these things happen and they
feel for their colleagues, you know. So I think that
that's what that was. And I'm with you. I think
this changes the dynamic, like I felt this way when
they trade it for him. You know, a lot of
people said like, oh, we can't move anymore behind that
(06:22):
offensive line. I'm like, have you seen who he's going
to be throwing to? How long? With those receivers? Do
you think he's going to have to hold on to
the ball? Do you actually think this is going to
be like Jake Browning where he doesn't isn't he isn't
deciphering what he's seeing, or he's in the forty year
old quarterback's going to be able to go in there
and get rid of the ball fast and put Jamar
Chase and t Higgins in the position to make plays.
(06:44):
And that's what it is. That's the Bengals saw, Well,
it's Okay, like we've got a little bit of an
offensive li top, we still have the great weapons. How
do we mitigate that and how do we put together
an offense in the drop back game that's closest to
what Joe Burrow is doing so we can maximize the
other ten guys in the huddle. And that's why Joe
made sense for them. And really they're not asking Joe
(07:06):
to be Superman, although he kind of was last night.
What they're asking him to do is just get them
back to level ground. And you know, I have a
game December fourteen circled in my head, right, like the
Bengals play the Ravens that day and that's thirteen games
in for them, So like to me, it's like that's
three months after that's three months of the day of
(07:29):
Joe Burrow's injury. So to me, I look at it
and I say, can you get to that date? Can
you get to that date and be seven and six?
Because if you can now, all of a sudden, you
got Joe Burrow back in the lineup. And are we
talking about the Bengals are really dangerous if they can
(07:49):
get in it, you know what I mean? Because the
AFC is a little sideways. So the whole idea in
getting Placau was how do we maximize the guys in
that huddle and can we get to December and get
Joe Burrow back in a situation where we're still playing
relevant games because every opportunity you have to go into
January with a quarterback like Joe Burrow as gold. I
(08:11):
think that's where they're at and it came together last night.
They've got the Jets, they've got the Bears, then they've
got their buy. They don't play on the road for
another month. I mean, you can see them being five
and four when they play the Steelers again a month
from now in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
What's it going to take to get cam Ward into
relevant games into the season? Do you mean the less
what's going to what is it going to take?
Speaker 5 (08:39):
I mean, I just think stabilities of Borrow and that's
the biggest thing. And it sucks for all the young
quarterbacks where this happened. It seems to happen over and
over again. I'm sure you guys saw that earlier this
week that the last four number one overall pick quarterbacks
have gone through mid seasons firings. This rookie that's like
textbook how not to do it. You do know what
(09:00):
I mean organizationally when it comes to developing a quarterback.
But that's what it was for Trevor Lawrence when he
was a rookie with Urban Meyer. That's what it was
for Bryce Young when he was a rookie with Frank right.
And that's what it was for Caleb Williams last year
when he was a rookie with Matty's. And so you know,
the biggest thing I think for Cam is they that
(09:22):
the Titans have to find a way to stabilize the
situation around him and put an incod infrastructure. And that
doesn't need to mean, you know, it doesn't necessarily mean
we have to hire a head coach to the quarterbacks guy.
I mean I last time, Jed Dregy is doing just
fine with the defensive head coach right like in Mike Rabel.
So you know what it does mean is that you
(09:44):
have to I think, create a stable situation around him. Man,
that can start now, you know, it's like the boy
being involved obviously, you know, like but you know, I
think as far as your long term planning goes, like
you have to have a plan that's sustainable, So you're
not doing this again to him in a year or two,
you know, and you want to try to create like
(10:06):
the that situation you possibly can for him. And now
they've got a lot of runway to do that. Obviously.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Albert Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, let
me ask you about Mike Rabel. Obviously he returns back
to Nashville. LeVar and I were speculating maybe he gets
a little petty while he's there, like, just just remind
me again why they were better off without him? Like,
how did that go? Because upon further review, the Titans
(10:34):
look like a clown show based on their decision making
with not only that but Derek Henry, who clearly still
has something left in the tank.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
What was the plan there?
Speaker 5 (10:45):
Well, I mean a short answer is they weren't better off, right.
The longer answer is a little more complicated. So they
fire Gen Robinson. The owner does not like being embarrassed
aj Brown and bears the owner in the organization. In
twenty twenty two, in December, he went for like eight
(11:06):
one sixty whatever it was. And so two days later
the owner decide she's firing the general mansisteracture. So John
Robinson ats fired at the end of twenty two, and
then going into twenty three, they give Mike Brabele a
ton of power, and for better or worse, there was
a feel in that organization that you were either a
(11:28):
Mike Brable guy or you weren't, and it was a
little siloed offs there. Right, you hire a general manager
who did that size yam and ran carthon on and
they go through the year and she more or less
decide I don't like the way the building feels right now,
and I don't like the structure. I don't think this
(11:48):
is the right structure. And at that point you the
only way to take the power away from Mike Brabel
was the fire us. So they kind of got themselves
like tied up in It's like, okay, well, I don't
like the aj Brown trade anymore, so I fired the GM,
So I'm going to give the coach the power. Oh wait,
I don't like having a coach who has that much power,
(12:11):
So now I'm going to just blow the whole thing
up completely. And that's how they end up where they
end up. Now, I would argue John Robinson inherited it
free and thirteen came into twenty sixteen, was walked in
with Marcus Mariota as his quarterback when he had inherited
and he had six straight winning seasons. Rayville came aboard
(12:33):
and the third of those seasons he made the playoffs
three times in four years, won two division titles on
to an AFT title game. I think those guys aren't
the right to rebuild it right the door of their
head age shout. But she was so focused on what
was six inches in front of her face, which is
what was happening right now in both those circumstances, then
(12:55):
she wound up tearing down, you know, a structure that
was really working for that and then have built an
identity there. And uh, you know, I think it's an
owner's job in that situation to me, at least when
there is some issues, you know, and when there are
there is some back and forth the way the owner's job.
(13:18):
The owners have very many jobs on the football side,
but making those things work is one of them. And she,
instead of making it that work, started firing people. And
now we see the results.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Let me let me ask you about what's going on
in New York. I believe Dan Campbell's record his first
year in Detroit West three and thirteen if my memory
ERNs me correctly, Yeah and one. That's a horrible record,
(13:52):
horrible record, and most people won't recall that. That's how
low the Detroit line started off after that fiery presser
that that Dan Campbell delivered and bite kneecaps and punching
ankle you know, ankles and stuff like that. Uh, Aaron
(14:14):
Glenn's going through the same thing right now, could possibly
outdo three and thirteen and one in New York. And
you hear whispers and murmurs and and things coming out
popping up. Should Aaron Glenn be fired? How should fans
be reacting to this? I mean, is this a place
(14:36):
where the same thing that happened in Detroit could actually
happen again in New York?
Speaker 5 (14:45):
I think you have to be patient, LeVar, you know,
I think, like you said, like in Detroit they were
zero to nine, they were ten and one, and they
finished that season three and three. If you remember, like
over the course that season, like you started to see
hope and that like a play style was emerging. You
(15:09):
started to see like, all right, like this is a
team that actually they have an identity and they're not
there yet. From a roster standpoint, but we're starting to
see some things we like, and then it manifested wins
at the end of the year, and they had some
momentum going into the next year, and then the next
year didn't start out great either. If you remember what
they caught fire in the middle of that year and
(15:30):
they were often running and how they are what they are.
I think that's what you're looking for now, right is
all right? You've had your rough start, inherited a roster
that I thought was really good. I know some people
in that building feel like maybe it was a little
bit overrated, and so what you're looking for I think
the rest of the year the play style and identity,
(15:53):
Like you want to see who they are, and you
would hope by the end of the year that starts
to manifest and wins the way I did at the
end of the end of the year in Detroit. So
that's where the hope is me is like Aaron Glen
growing into the role, but also like just starting to
see what he wants them to become. Because I think
(16:14):
even when the Lions were as bad as they were
that first year, by the end of that year we
had a good idea of what Dan Campbell was trying
to build, And so that's what I'd be looking for
if I were a Jets fan, right.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Albert Breers, Senior NFL reporter, lead content strategists with us
here on Fox Sports Radio, it's two pros and a
cup of Joe. Here on FSR SO trade deadlines coming
up in a couple of weeks, Alvin Kamara said, you know,
if you trade me, I'll just go drink Pina coladas.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
So he seems to be off the table.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Joe Flacco's already been traded. What are we looking at?
Are their names out there to watch situations to monitor
that you go, you know, something could pop off there?
Speaker 5 (16:51):
Sure, I mean I think it's like the easy thing
to do is like just look at like which teams
are gonna be waving the white flag now? You know,
Like last night game's a good example, right, Like there's
a lot of talk about Trey Hendrickson. Thing goes right
down a little bit, like they've got two games that
are winnable between now and the trade deadline. I think,
(17:12):
like you look at that and say, Henry, it makes
sense for them to Keith Endrances, right, Like, so like
which teams are we looking at? I'd say the Saints
are one, although Mickey Woman's has always been very reluctant
to move guy. So like, is the Mario Davis valuable
to somebody? I can't imagine what trade Cam Jordan's just
(17:32):
based on what he needs the franchise. But Crystal Lave,
Like if you come and you ask Christal Lave and
they haven't signed him to a long term extension, like
maybe he's somebody who are looking at. The Jets would
be another one, you know, Jermaine Johnson. Could you find
a way to try him if they aren't playing outside
of him Lungs or Briest Hall. That's an obvious one, right, Like,
(17:54):
I mean they don't have him signed and uh and
he's a free agent after the year. Miami they're better
in pass rushers Bradley Chubb, Jalen Phillips. So like, I
think you're looking at teams that have some mask that
you know, and like you look at Tennessee also, but
who does Tennessee have that he would really be like, yeah,
(18:15):
like let me go get him, Like maybe Calvin Ridley, right, Like,
so those are the teams I think you'd be looking
at teams that maybe like are in a position where
they have to be a little bit more realistic with
themselves about where they are, you know, and then you
you you look at the guys contract situations that you
go from there.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
I'm good, all right, Well, Albert, we've taken enough of
his time.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
I'll pause like I was going to keep going like that.
We're good, all right?
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Well what I mean?
Speaker 6 (18:46):
You know?
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Now?
Speaker 5 (18:47):
Now I got a question, Lamar, who's your coach.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Going to be? I don't know. Are you hopeful that
can beat Ohio State?
Speaker 5 (18:57):
Are you? Are you an next teammate of one of
the candidates? Is that right? I think you are right.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
I don't know. Well played, I do not know.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
I think that's right, right, I think I have my
timeline right here.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
I think that's correct.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
I do not I do not know.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
Yeah, it might have been, might have been in the
same position going with you, I think I think I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Who are you speaking of?
Speaker 3 (19:19):
I never heard of it A be speaking of a
speaking of college? It is that time. We've got to
ask you a question. So you know, with that being said,
you representing Columbus in the way that you do, do
you believe at the end of this week's game against
Wisconsin that Ohio State will have won by more than
(19:40):
twenty five and a half points.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
I do, I do, although I like, hey look like
Luke Figgles and a love figure in Columbus Bribe and
By and Day. I believe with the staff made of
Luke's for a year. So I don't think this is
like a went on the gas in the fourth quarter
game for them, So like that'd be my one concern.
(20:05):
Like for me, I think they would. I think they cover,
but I'm not sure. I would you this fine if
I were that, because I could see the fuck coming
off the gas a little bit. They're in the fourth
quarter with some sympathy for the guys.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Oh so they're gonna show They're going to show some
mercy there.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
And they're not a good team. Let's call it what
it is. They're not a good team.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
But God's is that? Yeah, so you're right, we're a
good tea. Yeah, yeah, it's not.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
It's not like Wisconsin used to strike fear into you
when you heard that name. It's not the same Wisconsin.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
So when we talk about identity, you knew.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
What they were, right, You knew what they were coming in.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
They look like they were, i mean, the most the
toughest post physical team you play all year. They were
that for twenty five years.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Right, that's right, that's right, Mother than that baby.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
So I heard there's not even enough people. I heard
there's not even enough people left by the fourth quarter
to do jump around anymore at those games. Right, No,
I'm just I made that. That's just I'm just possible.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
I mean, they probably just hang around just for that though.
That's probably the only thing that keeps them coming to
the games, to the bar. And I'm not one, and
I can't. I am not the calling the kettle black
right here, I'll tell you that.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
But I.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
Appreciation in my heart. I mean, Camp Randle is really
just a big outdoor bar anyway, right.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Yeah, yeah, it is.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
It's fun for you get it in. That's one of
the best places to play a game. It was one
of the hardest places to play a game, but not
so much anymore.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
All right, there he is, ab, We appreciate it. We'll
do it again next week. There is a great Albert
Breer will us here on Fox Sports Radio, senior NFL reporter,
lead content strategist.
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Oh wow, okay, is that why you play it?
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Oh, well the Cowboys are in circulation a lot, so
that is, you know, and.
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Speaker 4 (24:54):
And drag photo? Look pretty smooth?
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Why are you playing guitar and I just look like there,
just looking like Dracula.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Well, because you're Dracula, you don't need to have any
more swag than than what you already had. It's all right,
You've got enough.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
You got dreads, you got shades, you get a nice jacket,
nice guitar.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
I mean, why are you? Why are you like jealous
about that? But I look like a creeper, well because
you are. I look like your Dracula.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
I look like z.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Watching. I hate that you're looking at me in the photo.
Then maybe I just feel like I feel like that
photo if it had like a beard on you, like
it would be all the way you and then it
would be like a real vibe because like the way
that dude is dressed and the way he looks outside
of the beard color being white versus being his hair
(25:48):
is still black. I feel like that's me, Like they
caught me on this one, you know what I mean,
Like that's that's my vibe right here.
Speaker 8 (25:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Can you ai generate Dracula with facial hair?
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Is that?
Speaker 4 (26:00):
I don't know?
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Because I mean, if that's the case, I mean that
would work, Like you don't even you don't have in
bald he's never had hair on his face.
Speaker 7 (26:07):
You'd be the first, really, you know, all.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
The Dracula movies, No, Dracula never had hair on his face.
Speaker 7 (26:13):
I don't think he's ever had hair on his face.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
His old ass couldn't grow a beard.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Lame, he just kept that youthful look. That's all y'all
have that like chisel chisel face.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
What about the Lost Boys? None of those guys had
facial hair.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
They have facial hair? Yeah, absolutely yeah they did.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Oh I do know this.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Maybe they didn't though I don't know, man not, I'm
thinking about it. Maybe they didn't have facial hair. And
now I got KEI for Sutherland had to have have
facial hair. Yeah, seems like he would.
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minutes from now.
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It was very scarce bruh. Nobody had.
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FSR and subscribe. So Albert Breer was trying to got
you into uh throwing out names for the Penn State
opening when it comes to a head coach, one of
the names that will not be on that list, especially
(27:38):
after the news account.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Yeah the sig, the sig got paid. Go ahead, Indiana.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Good for you. Yeah, good for you. Don't play around
with it. That's how this all works, though. You you
can play around with something and you can own something,
like own it, like this man has turned your program around.
He's he's got a personality that could fit anybody's organization,
anybody's university. And I mean, you're having success. Why play
(28:10):
around with it?
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Eight years, ninety three million, he gets eleven point six
million a year. Put some of the top three of
highest paid coaches in the country, and he was excited
about it yesterday.
Speaker 8 (28:23):
My wife Minette and I love Indiana University, Bloomington, the
state of Indiana. The people we've met with have very
strong feelings about President Whitten and Scott Dolson. And we've
accomplished a lot here in a short amount of time,
but still have a lot of work to do. So
I couldn't be more proud to be a Hoosier and
I plan on retiring as a Hoosier, and the way
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that this state has embraced us in our success in
football has meant more to me than anything else. So
I just wanted to get on camera and let you
know that Kurt Signette is going to work daily to
make Indiana the best they can be.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
I'm a little third person there as well too. You
know what, if you get that kind of money, he
can go third person if you've had those results in
Indiana and get that right. And also, why would he
want to go anywhere else where? If you anywhere else,
you go the expectations right off the bat, like we're
hiring you, we expect immediate results. He went to a
(29:23):
place that had been bad, that had you know, hadn't
had a winning season other than the COVID year, And
forever he goes there, they've He's put together the best
season maybe in the history of the program. They were
a playoff team a year ago. Like he's got them,
you know, near the top of the rankings. They just
want a big game in Eugene. He could be that's
(29:48):
his final destination if he wants it. It's like Kirk Farence.
Kirk Farence has been in Iowa for what twenty five years?
Why would he want to go anywhere else? Like if
you if if you were to go anywhere else, you've
got to live up to immediate expectations. Signetty could be
at Bloomington for the next twenty five years if he
wanted to, and just make that the destination now, as
(30:10):
opposed to go and try and live up to expectations
elsewhere and try and bounce around from one lower level
job to a bigger gig.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
When that man was at JMU, he was making four
hundred and twenty five thousand dollars in his first year
and was paid four hundred and fifty nine thousand and
twenty twenty one. Talk about a swinging of the pendulum. Yeah,
(30:38):
then he gets to Indiana and he's he's getting an
annual of over eight million following a successful year, and
now his new contract is paying him just south of
twelve million dollars annually at eleven point six. Talk about
(31:02):
living the American dream, bro and and persevering and putting
your best foot forward. The man all he has done
is win and put his best foot forward and has
climbed the ladder. You know, the right way and now
he gets he gets obviously rewarded with this long term
(31:24):
contract because the bottom line is Kirk Signetti's name certainly
represents what most of these teams are looking for. In fact,
you could say almost all of them, because the NIL,
the NIL era has has created a space and a
place in time where there's only going to be a
(31:47):
handful of guys that can navigate these these rough waters.
The terrain is in the waters of what's going on
in NIL are treacherous. I mean, it's ad and to
have somebody who can still communicate with these athletes, coach
these athletes, motivate these athletes.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Maintain and and and keep them around. It's it's so
many moving.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Parts to being able to be successful at the college
level anymore that if you can find somebody who brings
all of that as a package, you're winning. And so
congrats to Indiana for that. You know, he's proven that
that what he does it works. He's got a nice
(32:36):
little process that that continues to work for him, and
and that's that's the right way to go. I wouldn't
be surprised. When did what when? When was when was
matt rules last contract extension? Was that last year was
that last year?
Speaker 3 (32:55):
I don't even I think vaguely, off the top of
my head, I think I remember that correctly.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
But all I know is if I have one of
the top guys out there that is coaching my team,
I'm locking him in if I know that this NIL
has fit that coach and he's worn it well. Because
what's going to happen, Jonas is this is going to
kill off every single old thinking, old style way of
(33:23):
thinking coach, and it might it might take away the
ads as well. If you do not understand how big
this NIL movement is in this era in time where
it's heading, then you gotta get out of the way.
And the reality of it is is that either you're
going to get out of the way or you're going
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to get moved out of the way.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
All right, So let's cut the crap o. Then's Matt
Rule taking the job of pensil.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
I don't I don't know anything about what you think
of man, Yeah, I don't know what you're talking about.
I don't. I don't know what's going to happen.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
He's coming home, you know, if you're in Nebraska. I
don't even I don't even bother giving him a contract extension.
He's leaving. That's his dream gig. That's an opportunity to
come full circle and met his wife there. All right,
he's coming home. All the alums are going to be
coming back. Your former teammate is coming home to Stay College.
(34:21):
Show right now. Everyone was like, oh, go after Signetty,
Like this one makes too much sense. He's close with
Pat Craft like this. This is the one where if
I was somebody in Nebraska, if I was in Lincoln
going he better not leave us, I'd be like, yeah,
but there are exceptions, and this would be an exception.
We could understand why he would want to make the jump,
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why he would want to go back to Stay College.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
You never know, Yeah, you never know. Man. I hate
to be cryptic or not, you know, kind of playing
along with what you're saying with with real words and
real information. But you know, I'm too close to the
situation to to be that person on air. It is
only going to be like a few times ever in
my career on the radio with you where I say
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something to this effect, but I just can't. I'm too
close to the situation to have any conversations about it.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
You know.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
That's my university. I think people have a strong idea,
good idea. How much I love my university. I have played,
you know, obviously a pretty integral part in a lot
of the things that are taking place at the school,
within the athletics department. So it's just not a conversation
that I'll engage in it as as it unfolds.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Listen, sometimes you know what you can't say, I'll do
it all right. I know you can't go there, but
I haven't said anything to No, you haven't said a
damn thing to me, I mean an anything. The only
thing you ever tell me about every single break one
of the things I can't mention on the air. The
other thing I can mention is how much you love
Louisiana hatsa. It's the only thing ever talk about.
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do it at the Stick City tailgates every weekend. So
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say hi, drop on by and you'll see some Louisiana,
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and score for yourself. Take it to wherever it is
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That's Louisiana Hot. Yeah, buy you some id.
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Speaker 5 (37:26):
Time to find out what's left Town's incredible.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Here's the left over.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
All, right, Ray, Ray, what do we got?
Speaker 7 (37:34):
We got some interesting leftovers? Today.
Speaker 10 (37:37):
I saw cal Rally in the news. He's become the
center of a very odd giveaway. There is a porn
site that plans to distribute thousands of big dumper toys
as they get closer.
Speaker 7 (37:52):
To the World Series.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
Jesuscribing dumper toys. Yeah, like tunka trucks, like.
Speaker 7 (37:58):
What you may kinda really got a good idea.
Speaker 10 (38:02):
You can go and gander this online. But the company
actually wants they want to work with the team. They
want to work with the team and hands them out
outside of the stadium tea mobile arena. They want to
be outside handing it out to people as they go inside.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
So uh well, I mean, look.
Speaker 7 (38:21):
Fee them as drink floaties.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
I mean people were were sneaking, people were sneaking dildos
into w NBA.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Games, so uh well, this is a little different than that.
Speaker 7 (38:32):
Yeah, and they especially named them the big Dumpers.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
The big Dumpers.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
I use your imagination, people, use your imagination. I mean, look,
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Speaker 4 (39:02):
Said you. You can match one of them big dumper
toys with your your bitch spread, you know, your late
night evening.
Speaker 7 (39:12):
Where imagine all teams hopped on this. You can have
a whole collection.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
WHOA, Every team doesn't need to hop on it. I'll
tell you that. WHOA.
Speaker 7 (39:23):
All right, we have this other story. I don't know
if you saw here.
Speaker 10 (39:27):
Travis Hunter got baptized this past Sunday and I love it.
Speaker 7 (39:32):
I want you to hear what he said.
Speaker 5 (39:35):
Yes, why did you do that?
Speaker 4 (39:38):
It's a crazy course And why did I get back
to us Sunday? This guy's day?
Speaker 8 (39:44):
And I've been planning to get baptized for a minute.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
You know, change my life over. Become a better man.
What does it mean? To means a lot? You know,
become to the better man, leaving my old flesh and
he's becoming a new Travis. I mean, maybe it'll become
a better receiver too, like a bad timing. What a
good dude man, he tries to He works to do
(40:10):
things the right way, great student in school, married, married
the woman that he loves, even though people giving a
hard time for it. Yeah, like talk about a dude
that does it the right way and go figure. He
doesn't get a whole lot of headlines anymore, You're not.
Nobody's not talking about Travis Hunter all the time anymore.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
It tells you kind of heat to his point, it
is kind of a strange follow up, like why would
you do that?
Speaker 4 (40:35):
Well, I'll say it could be considered a strange follow up,
but as as somebody who does interviews, we want to
know why. I mean, you could get baptized more than
once in your life, you know what I mean, Like
you could have a baptism when you're a kid. You
can redo it, you know, at any point in time
in high school and college and grown man.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Well, but why else would you get baptized?
Speaker 4 (40:57):
I mean, well, there's different. I mean the would say
that the core of the reason always stays the same, right,
Like you just want to be you want to old
you to die and you want to come out to
new you. But I mean I would want it. I mean,
he why not know why?
Speaker 3 (41:12):
Good for you, Travis?
Speaker 4 (41:13):
Good for you? Why not?
Speaker 5 (41:14):
Why not?
Speaker 4 (41:15):
Travis just answer? You know you got baptized. Tell him
and you answered it like to be a better person.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
By the way, a hell of a medley of stories
Lorena goes from.
Speaker 7 (41:26):
But I was about to say, it's all about being
holy guys,
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