October 13, 2025 • 39 mins
To wrap up the last hour, the guys discuss Joe Flacco making his first start for the Bengals, JaMarr Chase’s questionable comments + Senior NFL Columnist for CBS Sports Senior NFL Columnist Pete Prisco stops by the Leftovers!
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(01:18):
addressed the uh, the elephant in the room. Uh, the
firing of James Franklin that took place by Penn State
over the weekend. You know, got that out of the way.
Now the search the search begins. I'm assuming and uh,
you know, maybe uh maybe you know, we'll get the
(01:39):
announcement on the air. Maybe LeVar will provide some insight
on that at some point.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
What announcement on the air? You want to announce that
the next head coaches already I think they're gonna I.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
Think that Harry Smith is the interim head coach. Alumni
Letterman was a receiver, been a defensive backs coach, been
been very successful with the development of defensive backs at
Penn State. There you go, there's your announcement. Interesting that good?
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Not really, but.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yeah, I mean, right, okay, what you're just a weird
one when it comes to this stuff.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Why that's what's so weird about it.
Speaker 6 (02:17):
You want like an announcement right now of what listen.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
I want big announcements to happen on our show.
Speaker 6 (02:23):
That's what I'm not going to have it on our show.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
That's unfortunate. Why would that happen. Why would you think
that it would happen.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, I mean unless you're a vampire. There's the hours
that you normally operate.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
I mean, he's got figured he would have some you know,
get some intel on this and get figured out, you it,
get this whole thing figured it out. That's like, let's
what like we should all be a part of the
hiring process. Come on to relax. Let's now that being said,
(02:57):
there was also NFL this weekend. You saw Joe Flacco
show up in Cincinnati and just start slinging it around,
just starts slinging it around against the Packers. They lost, right,
And I don't know if this is ultimately going to
turn into Cincinnati making a run and being you know,
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potentially a playoff team by the time Joe Burrow returns.
But at least they gave themselves a better shot because
they did look significantly better with Joe Flacco in the
lineup than they did with Jake Browning.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
I don't see it. I don't see it that way.
I think I think with Joe Burrow being out as
long as he is, I think it's a lost season.
That's what I think. I mean, Listen, they're two four,
but I just I think it's a lost season.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Good.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
No, No, I think we're all there. It's just like
they probably felt like this gave them a better chance,
and they're not wrong. Like Flacco coming in that game
was a one score game, you know, kind of late,
and he gave him a shot, and you'd have to
think that he's only going to get better the longer
he's actually there and able to go through the offense,
so that that kind of helps, I guess, But I
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don't know, man, I mean outside of Pittsburgh, and then
you look at the rest of the AFC picture, like no.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
One's really running away with it.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
So maybe there's an outside shot if they could get
Burrow back in time and Flacco can win them some games,
they would be able to hold onto a wildcard spot potentially, right,
they could get that seventh spot, but it's a big if.
I just still like kind of come away just impress
though with Flaccou. I mean just I mean, the dude
gets traded like he's like, oh right, we're starting right
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away too, and they're like, oh, it's the offense. Yeah,
there's some similar verbiage people don't understand. So hard to
do what he did this past week. It is so
hard and and and you know, for him to be
able to, you know, feel confident whatsoever throwing to any
of those guys that he just had a week with,
I mean there's probably an element of like, all right,
(04:55):
let's just go out there and wing it, because like,
what can you really expect? But the truth is too,
like he's he's doing a much better job rolling with
the punches and dealing with this transition than most quarterbacks would.
It's really really difficult what he's doing out there.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
Dylan Gabriel, he didn't have a horrible game. He just
couldn't get the ball in the end zone and couldn't
get points on the board. I'm just looking at the
AFC North. The Ravens look like pure putrit right now.
Getting Lamar back after the bye though, that is fair,
that is important, But they've lost some of those games
(05:35):
with Lamar Jackson too, And I just wonder if you're
a Super Bowl pay bar. I know, how where they're
currently at right now, like they look like how Penn
State looks like a team that's lost belief in their
ability to be able to win. And I just wonder
how much of a difference can Lamar Jackson make in
(05:58):
an environment where you have a group of people that
maybe just don't believe anymore that this is a team
that can win. And so to me, I mean you
look at just the way that the AFC North is unfolding.
The Browns they can't I mean, they're they're competitive, but
(06:21):
they they just really can't seemingly get it right one
at one and four.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
The Bengals that they've won two games, well yeah they've
won two games.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
But.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
They can't you can't believe that they're trending in the
right direction. So now we're looking at a Pittsburgh Steelers
team that really, to me, are all alone, like, okay,
if maybe they can make the wild card, maybe the
Bengals can find a way to to the wildcar. I
don't I don't see Lamar Jackson being so much of
(06:54):
a catalyst that. I mean, he could be, but I
just don't see it where they're at right now, where
he's going to be this catalyst to get it back
on track.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
It just doesn't look good in Baltimore, almost as though like,
did did Harball lose the locker room? Did he lose
his locker room? That's how bad they look. I've never
seen the Ravens look this bad.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
So if you had to guess, because you can on DraftKings,
you can bet on teams to make the playoffs, yes
or no, Brady, what would you guess? The line is
on the Ravens to make the playoffs at one in five.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
At one in five, yeah, plus one fifty even money,
really yeah, even money.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
And I think there's been I think there's been a
handful of teams that have had a one in five
start that have made the postseason. But I think that
tells you that's just the belief they have in Lamar Jackson.
That's the belief that had. But that doesn't necessarily mean
that that's what it's going to be. One in five,
that is a very very tall task for anyone. The
(08:02):
Bengals are ten to one, which is obviously you know
Joe Burrow is going to be out longer than Lamar Jackson.
So that's that's why that's the long shot it is.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
But you know, even money sounds crazy to me, But
I mean the season is still still young, but that
still puts a lot of pressure on the Ravens to
have to try to climb back in listen, game back game.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
You could probably do it.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
It's doable, but that's a lot of that's a lot
of pressure to be at one in five schedules.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
What's wild to me is, and this is based on
what I'm searching on the internet, it's saying that starting
off one in five with a seventeen game schedule, those
teams have about a one percent chance to qualify for
the playoffs. I don't know about jo and four is
(08:52):
like four to ten percent. One in five is is
a one percent chance?
Speaker 4 (08:56):
All right?
Speaker 6 (08:57):
That is wild to me.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
So they come back after the Lamar Jackson's healthy, all right,
So Lamar Jackson's ready to go after the bye? All right?
Tell me? Tell me, are you guys giving the Ravens
a win or a loss in these games? So are
you guys? Are you?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Well, hold on for a second, we act like Lamar
hasn't played this season, even with Lamar, they've lost games.
It's like they've just been dropping games because Cooper rushes
in a quarterback. They got defensive issues, they got all
kinds of issues right now.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
All right, So after the bye week hosting the Bears,
win or loss for the Ravens, that's a W. Yeah,
I'm not sure, all right.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
No, that's an easy one. Bears fans like Jonas can
say otherwise, that should be an easy one.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Sure, should be short week at the Dolphins on a Thursday,
and that's a win. That's three and five at the
Vikings the next week. Nope, that's an l you sure, yep,
I don't know for sure. Ye, at the Vikings, I
think they win that game. Okay, so let's say that.
So what makes you? What makes you? So?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
We're just taking your opinion now on this where we're
doing on.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Four this week. If anybody's got an opinion that matters
on this show, you're four.
Speaker 6 (10:10):
No, and you just asked for and you just asked
for an extra point.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Yes, I'm going to get greedy and all right. So
after the Vikings you've got the Browns, the Jets. That's
a win. That's the Bengals that's a win they could eater. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yeah, but that put them at based on our calculations,
six and.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Six two three, four five, because we didn't give them
Minnesota you did, so that would put him at six
and one.
Speaker 7 (10:44):
Total total record, bro all right, sorry, five and one
in that total record, six and six, six and six.
It gets them in. It gets them in the conversation.
It doesn't what do you mean at six and six
at that point in the.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
What the remainder of the schedule?
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Then then you got the Steelers. Nope, okay, the Bengals again,
maybe maybe with Burrow, I don't know, the Patriots maybe,
and then you're gonna close up at Green Bay and
at Pittsburgh.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
No oh yeah, nope, that could be tough.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
By the way, you mentioned the Patriots.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
They're looking looking good, said are looking good?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Just said, bar.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
They're looking good, Drake May slinging it, they're looking good.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I love when they make up these like obscure stats
that they put up on this gigantic graphic. I'm like,
I didn't know how to put that into context. It
was like five straight games throwing for over two hundred
yards sometimes with a one hundred quarterback grading re more
so I was like, oh, all right.
Speaker 6 (11:50):
What the hell is that?
Speaker 8 (11:51):
Sev?
Speaker 6 (11:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (11:53):
Is he?
Speaker 6 (11:54):
Is he playing good?
Speaker 4 (11:54):
All right?
Speaker 6 (11:55):
Is that what it means?
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Great?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Like just put up a put up a big like
card that says Drake may playing good the last five games,
maybe better than whatever the hell they think looks good
on it, like a stat I mean literally, like, what
are some of the stats that we throw out there?
Speaker 9 (12:10):
Like in five of the last six weeks, one he
throws for two hundred yards but also gets sack twice,
but then also fumbles the ball but recovers himself.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Can we start doing that? Like each week we'll just
make up an obscure stat and see if we can
run with it. Just come up with something like that.
I think that would be fun because you know, somebody
will regurgitate it and then I'll get some run on
social media. Hey, by the way, did you hear speaking
of the AFC North, I know we mentioned the Bengals
and the Steelers. Did you hear? Jamar Chase had some
(12:42):
interesting thoughts in previewing because that is the Thursday night
game that is coming up. So Thursday night, you've got
the Bengals, You've got the Steelers, you know, there's all
sorts of you know, discussion about you know, Joe Flacco
and how this is gone and it's Amazon Video, and
so Jamar Chase wanted to preview the game a little
(13:03):
bit to get people set up for Al Michaels and
Kirk Curve Street to call this game on Thursday night.
Just take a listen.
Speaker 10 (13:09):
But this nice game is always the most important game,
just because of the divisional game also, but uh, just
the rankings that we got going on the standards where
we are right now. We know still gonna try to
come in and row doug Us and kill us, but
we're gonna be ready for that challenge and we're gonna
be waiting for it.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
Tang, no, lou no. No.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
By the way, Lorena, who found that sound? Is that
Jonas who found that sound?
Speaker 4 (13:38):
I believe it was. That's about right, Tang.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
You got problems, man?
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Why do I got problems? Re rolled it in? Okay,
that's my job. I don't know if you knew that.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah, I just we have two nice young ladies who
are working with us today and you have to put
them in this position.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Jonas, I didn't say it. Talk to Jamar. He actually
told me to do it for in case you missed it.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
See. Even worse, he's trying to put it on you
for that segment.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
That's a lie.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Between you asking for a.
Speaker 6 (14:11):
Point and now this.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
You're a terrible human being for this is like you're
just you're a terrible human being.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
It's another log on the fire. All right, it's unfortunate burning.
He said, just go ahead and jump in it.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
It's hot.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I'm not sure what's worse. Either you're trying to play
these vulgar clips or you're trying to ask for an
extra point.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
I thought you guys would be kind run jump in it.
I just wanted to jump in us the line. The
line moved by a point, you know, I'm just hoping
for some you know what about the airs on a
state line that moved, you know, based on well, by.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
The way I took my l on that, that was
absolute dog crap. All right, he gets ruled out afterwards,
and the line moves a bunch, which I would have not.
Speaker 6 (14:52):
Even bet that game. I'll tell you what I'm not
complaining about.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
It's not how works.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
There's no deal, no deal.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
That the Kenny Am Shenanigans, no deal with the injury.
Speaker 6 (15:05):
No deal, no deal.
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Speaker 8 (17:19):
Better than James Franklin?
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Oh yeah, you're yeah.
Speaker 12 (17:27):
By the way, by the way, you guys are right.
I tried yesterday. Somebody somebody said, oh, James Flanklin got fired.
Speaker 8 (17:33):
Good.
Speaker 12 (17:33):
You could take two million of the fifty million and
go put it in a room and then dive in it.
Speaker 8 (17:36):
That's what I would do.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
Yeah, he didn't lose, he just lost. Yeah, you know,
but it was a good track, Pete, great track. How
did you know?
Speaker 4 (17:49):
How did your team do yesterday?
Speaker 8 (17:51):
They stink? They stink.
Speaker 12 (17:53):
They got blowing, got physically they got physically mal and
their quarterback didn't show up it because they got hurt.
But you know what, even the ad played, they still
would have gotten more. They're not good. They're not They're
not big enough.
Speaker 8 (18:05):
They're not physically big enough.
Speaker 12 (18:06):
And by the way, Texas techle rock them this week.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Well, I was going to say we actually were potentially
going to be out in Tempe for the College Football
show Big New kickoff. But because of that loss, I
think they thought that's maybe not a good sign, could
be a bad deal going out there. So we're going elsewhere.
But I want to know, we were trying to make
our way to Temple. I was looking forward to it. Pete, great,
(18:29):
we're going to Provo. So b YU Utah Top twenty
five matchups obviously change b YU undefeated.
Speaker 12 (18:36):
Yeah yeah, b YU byu rallied against Arizona the other
night they won, so did look look as U is
what they are, Penn State is what they are, and
probably just you know who they are. I mean, there's
the problem with college football is I don't think there
are any great.
Speaker 6 (18:54):
Teams on Ohio State.
Speaker 8 (18:58):
We'll see, we'll see.
Speaker 12 (19:00):
I mean, I'll tell you what Brady Texas check is
damn good.
Speaker 8 (19:03):
I mean that they they are.
Speaker 12 (19:05):
Proof that you can go out and buy whatever you
need doing you can win in college football.
Speaker 8 (19:08):
Right.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Well, okay, but the quarterback got hurt, so we'll see
how that impacts them moving forward. And they lost their
dtackle too. I don't know how long, if he's out
for the season or what the deal is. So one
of those players you're referring to that got bought is
no longer going to be there.
Speaker 12 (19:22):
So yeah, I mean that's that's what college football is nowadays, right, So.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
How's that any different from the NFL. What's free agency? Well,
they have a cap and yeah, and there's a cap too,
that's called the House NCA settlement, so they roughly can
try to figure out how much they want to allocate,
you know, towards the roster in that regard. If there's
collective involvement, there has to be, but even that's been
subject to scrutiny because the CSC and all that. So
(19:51):
there's kind of.
Speaker 6 (19:51):
Like a solid cat.
Speaker 12 (19:52):
You get a four year If you get a four
year contract, you're bound to it by four years and
unless the team releases, you're correct, and college football you
can go jumping forever you want too.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
Well, they make these kids sign contracts.
Speaker 12 (20:02):
Too, now, but Brady, can't they transfer every other year
every year if they want to.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
They could, but they would not get the moneies that
are in that contract.
Speaker 6 (20:11):
So like what you're.
Speaker 12 (20:12):
Saying is kind of mawhere else get the money.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Well, yeah, but that's then how the setup is. If
they sign a two, three, or four, you do base Pete.
By the way, eight of the NFL's on one year contracts.
Speaker 12 (20:25):
No, I get that, Brady, But the bottom line is
you can't if you can't just jump from team to
team like you can in college football, can You're not.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
No, But someone will say that's actually more player empowerment,
like that's actually better for the players. Now, you don't
talk from that perspective because you hate players and you
like to talk from Pete Prisco part of the ownership.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
I don't these guys.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
These guys grow on trees, these running backs grow.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
On all be playing, on all be playing.
Speaker 8 (20:54):
And I was right.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
So, Pete Prisco, I relate better to billionaires than millionaires.
Speaker 8 (21:02):
No, that's not that's not true.
Speaker 12 (21:04):
That's not true.
Speaker 8 (21:05):
He's not true.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
I got one for you. Begets sensitive, Pete, I got
one for you. Are the Jets even worse than you thought?
Speaker 8 (21:15):
Yes, yes they are.
Speaker 12 (21:17):
I mean when you think Aaron Glenn, who is a
former player and has a you know, an attitude about
him and a feistiness about him, would go in and
still a toughness on the defense, right, you figured at
least that, Well, they don't tackle very well, and they
did play better yesterday on defense. I'll give them that offensively.
Speaker 8 (21:38):
We went into the season.
Speaker 12 (21:39):
Thinking what we saw on Sunday is what we've seen
most of the season.
Speaker 8 (21:42):
They're not good on.
Speaker 12 (21:43):
Offense, but they put a lot of assets into an
offensive line that allowed their quarterback to get sacked nine
times on Sunday nine. And then at the end of
the half, what in the hell is that man doing?
They take a punt on fourth down to get a
first down.
Speaker 8 (22:01):
Okay, at the end of the a half.
Speaker 12 (22:03):
Well, why don't you go from there to try and
get something? He does nothing and allows the clock to
run out, and he's getting yelled at by his players.
So I wonder, you know, sometimes you're a coordinator, sometimes
you don't know if the guy's a head coach. Aaron
Glenn has to learn how to be.
Speaker 8 (22:20):
A head coach.
Speaker 12 (22:21):
You have to be involved in game management to the
point where you understand the mechanism of the clock management
and the understanding of what you do. Why would you
fake that field goal if you're not going to go
from there? What's the rationale you didn't want to give
him the ball back? What does that mean?
Speaker 8 (22:39):
I don't get it.
Speaker 12 (22:40):
So I just think that, yeah, they're a mess, and
they're a disaster, and they have guys that haven't played
close to expectations. And I think it's all reflection of
the entire process, but I think it's a reflection of
the coach now having said all that, he doesn't deserve
to be fired. Right now people are saying that, give
me a break, Let's play out the season and see
how this thing goes. But the reality is right now,
(23:02):
it's if you had to grade the Jets and the
coaching and everything that goes into it, it's a big
giant fats.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Let's talk about a team that maybe is exceeding our expectations,
and that's the Pittsburgh Steelers, the best team in the
AFC North. They look to be a team that might
be the third best team in the AFC? Is that
fair to say?
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Pete?
Speaker 8 (23:23):
Do we know? Do we know?
Speaker 12 (23:25):
I mean that's the thing about when we talked about
this last night. Do we know if the Colts and
or the Steelers are any good yet?
Speaker 2 (23:33):
I mean, why do we say that? Though, Dude, like
the Colts might be they probably should be undefeated if
you really think about it.
Speaker 12 (23:40):
Okay, and I'm going to go through the Colts schedule.
Beat the Dolphins, who are dreadful. Beat the Titans who
are dreadful. Beat the Raiders who are dreadful. Now, okay,
then they beat the Cardinals without their starting quarterback.
Speaker 8 (23:54):
Now the other guy might.
Speaker 12 (23:55):
Outplay them yesterday, but he still beat them without their
starting quarterback and the wide receiver went out in the
first They.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Beat a Broncos team that I think you would would
would agree is better.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
Than the Broncos.
Speaker 12 (24:04):
Can't Broncos can't score.
Speaker 8 (24:06):
I mean, Broncos have offensive issues right now.
Speaker 12 (24:08):
And then they and then they lost the Rams in
a game they probably in a game they probably won.
Speaker 8 (24:14):
But so you flip those.
Speaker 12 (24:15):
Games, but we really don't know. Then you go to
the Steelers. Do we know how good they are?
Speaker 8 (24:20):
Look at their schedule? What they beat?
Speaker 12 (24:22):
The Jets, the Browns, who's the other one they beat?
Speaker 2 (24:25):
I mean they Here's here's the general point. Pete is, like,
who's good then in the AFC, because you've got Buffalo,
you've got Indy and you'd say case but the record
is not as good, So like, like, who who are
you like hanging your hat on? Who is good?
Speaker 12 (24:40):
That's that's part of the problem is I don't think
we know if anybody's any good?
Speaker 8 (24:43):
I say it every time this year.
Speaker 12 (24:44):
Is anybody any good? We'll know more about it. Indy
goes to the play the Chargers next week at the Chargers.
That's gonna be a tough game. They win that game,
we'll start believing.
Speaker 8 (24:52):
In them a little bit.
Speaker 12 (24:53):
Okay, the Steelers are gonna I mean, unless Lamar Jackson
can come back and beat Lamar Jackson, they're gonna run
away with that division. I mean, if Lamar Jackson has
a hamm and you guys know better than me because
you played, you played in the league. If you have
an hamstring injury, and Mike Evans always comes back from
hamstring injuries, it reinjures them. Can you be the same
guy three weeks out.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
Three weeks out from It just depends on how serious
the hamstring injury.
Speaker 12 (25:19):
It's one that may have missed two games already, so
it's probably.
Speaker 8 (25:22):
Pretty serious, right.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
It depends, because a really serious hamstring injury, you're talking
months like, it takes a real like you can't even
barely hardly walk when you have a quad pool or
a hamstring pool. So it might not be as crazy
bad as it may seem, even though he's missing time
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two weeks time isn't a crazy amount of time for
a hamstring injury if it isn't a serious one. So
if he's coming back, if he's making an attempt to
come back right now and it's been like less than
a month, I would say it's not as severe as
it is.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
It Maybe some people may have made it.
Speaker 12 (26:03):
Sound we'll be limited, will be limiting.
Speaker 8 (26:05):
That's the egglection question. Because Lamar Jackson is limited.
Speaker 12 (26:08):
In what he can do with his ability to run explosiveness,
then that's going to change who he is as a quarterback,
and that's gonna change their offense.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
I think we gotta wait and see how he how
he knows when he's out there. I don't I don't
think there's any other way of knowing how he's going
to respond to the injury, because unless you're right there
with him, you're not going to know the level of
what that that hamstring pool is. It could it could
be as simple as them taping it up or giving
them compression shorts to put on and then it holds
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it together. He's good, it's heated, da da da, so
on and so forth. Could be a torto all shot
that helps take away just the discomfort of the pain.
It just all depends on what his tolerance of pain.
There's there's a whole lot of factors. We're just gonna
have to wait and see how it looks when he
plays on it. But I agree with you though. If
he can't move, if he's not if he's not versatile
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and what it is that he's bringing to the table,
then you're going to see much of the same results.
If he's not able to be a you know, a
person that moves out of the pot, outside of the
pocket and is able to be mobile with what he's doing.
I mean, I would tend to agree with you on that.
Speaker 12 (27:15):
Yeah, And if that's the case, they're in big trouble
and they're done, and then Steelers will win the.
Speaker 8 (27:19):
Division no matter what.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
Do you think that they'd have a chance to make
a wild cart run or even the Bengals. Do you
think any other team in the North would have an
opportunity to make it into the playoffs?
Speaker 8 (27:34):
I mean no, I don't.
Speaker 12 (27:38):
I Look, the Ravens schedule softens up a great deal
in the next five games, So if Lamar Jackson can
come back and be Lamar Jackson, they'll get back into
the mix. I don't think there's any doubt about that.
But if he can't, don't I don't see how that
happens with that the loster, the way it's constructing, all.
Speaker 8 (27:53):
The injuries they have. So no, I would say, I
don't think.
Speaker 12 (27:56):
The Bengals and Joe Flacco are going to go wild
card hunting.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
No, I do not, all right, So Pete, what do
you make of the Drake may start to his season?
All right? If we don't know, you know who is
good yet? The Patriots are sitting there at four and two,
and you know now they'll sit back and wait to
see what happens later on tonight.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
But it does.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Feel like Josh McDaniels, Mike rabel They've got Drake Man.
They've got that team headed in the right direction, A
far cry from where they were a year ago.
Speaker 12 (28:27):
Under drawd Mayo, no question, no question about it. And
Mike rabeles a good football coach. He instills a toughness
in the team and gets them to play weekend and
week out. And Drake may is a franchise quarterback. I mean,
did Drake may He made some throws on Sunday. There
was a throw call back on a throat to step
on Diggs for pasts interference. That yeah, yeah, I mean
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that throw was incredible. I mean, some of the throws
he made out out it's the Saints. But the week
before they went to Buffalo and you beat the Bills.
And when you go to Buffalo beat the Bills and
you come on the road and you go play the
Saints on the road again, that's a natural letdown. And
it was a it was a thing. You know, they
fought through it a bit, but they found a way.
And that's the signe of a good football team. You know,
you talk about a wildcard team. I think that team's
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a legitimate wildcard team, particularly when you look at the
two bottom feeders below them in the division and the
Dolphins and the Jets.
Speaker 8 (29:16):
You would think that the New England.
Speaker 12 (29:17):
Patriots will be one of the one of the wildcard
teams come playoff time, particularly the way Drake may is
playing a particularly the.
Speaker 8 (29:22):
Way they play for that coach.
Speaker 12 (29:24):
So yeah, I'm impressed by the New England Patriots.
Speaker 6 (29:28):
Pete has San Francisco hited ceiling.
Speaker 12 (29:34):
You know, Brady a week ago they went to It's
funny how we change our narrative in a week. But
you're not wrong, though, And here's why. They go to
la and beat the beat the Rams on the Thursday night,
and everybody goes, oh my god, that's vintage Kyle Shanahan.
Speaker 8 (29:49):
Look at back Jones, he's great.
Speaker 12 (29:50):
Look what they did and they want and they're right
back in the thick of things. And then they go
to Tampa and lose a close game, but they lose
Fred Warner and and that's for season. So you take
the heart and soul of the defense off the defense,
and you take away Nick Bosa off that defense, and
then you go to the offense. Kittle hasn't been there.
Perty's not there. And so of the six major supposed
(30:13):
stars of the count Purdy that you have on that roster,
two of them are playing. Two Berett Williams, who's not
quite the same player he was, and Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 8 (30:24):
And that's it.
Speaker 12 (30:25):
And so week in and week out you're challenged to go,
you know, compete against these teams with the backup quarterback
who's played pretty good football, and a roster that is,
you know, a challenge to put together because you pay
those guys so much money, and your star star laden
and so when when those stars go out, your team
is in big trouble. And right now I think the
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forty nine ers in big trouble.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
What's what's going on with your Jacksonville Jaguars? Where are
you at with them?
Speaker 4 (30:55):
Well?
Speaker 12 (30:55):
I thought they there was a big win last week
against Kansas City, and Sunday they laid in and didn't
play very well. I mean, this is an offensive line
that gave up six sacks going into the game and
gave up seven on Sunday. I mean, they just were
brutalized up front. Having said all that, I think Seattle's
defense is significantly better than we give him credit for,
(31:16):
particularly on the defense. They played with a bunch of
guys out on the secondary, and Sam Darnold's playing at
a high level. Look, I have my reservation going into
the season. I'll be the first to admit it. The
guy's averaging over nine and a half yards per attempt.
The ball is going down the field in the league
where nobody throws the ball down the field. So I
think that that game was much more telling about Seattle.
(31:37):
On the positive side, Jacksonville came off.
Speaker 8 (31:39):
A big win.
Speaker 12 (31:40):
It's hard to get back up again, but they got
to play better on offense. I think their offense is
not very good right now, and you know, maybe it's
time to start pointing the fingers at the quarterback a
little bit and he's got to be better in a
certain situations.
Speaker 8 (31:54):
Now.
Speaker 12 (31:54):
He did have a drop in the middle of the
field on a key third down by Brian Thomas. Once again,
that would have continued to drive to go tie it up.
But they didn't play very well on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Wait, so are you trying to tell me that sam
Donold's not who he thought he was? Yes, okay, so
you're still waiting on that bad games to be like
see I told you.
Speaker 8 (32:16):
Yah, yeah, yeah, Brady, Brady, you.
Speaker 12 (32:20):
Know that you are with your usually works out all
the time.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
And yeah, because because it only takes one game then
you make that claim and then it's like he plays
straight from five more and he's like, nah, no, I'll
come back down to normal. He'll come back down to
who he is. Let's just wait for.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Him about three years.
Speaker 12 (32:36):
I got about three so he needs three good years
to kind of level off his career.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
By the way, I love how you don't give him
like any any leeway whatsoever. If we're going to a
Jets organization that like just cannot figure it out. And
yet here's at no point are you like, yeah, maybe
we should wipe that clean. Nope, we're just gonna hold
it against him the rest of his life.
Speaker 12 (32:59):
No, I'm not holding it against him. I just got
to see more and and but and right now I'm
seeing more. I'm gonna give him his flowers. Brady, I said,
he's been playing good football, and rightfully so he deserves
all the accolades he's getting. He's in the MVP conversation.
How about that?
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Wow? All right, Pete, who's your coach of the year.
Who's your coach of the year today? Right now? Pete,
you got you buy your mind?
Speaker 12 (33:22):
Well, I mean, I think you have to give rabel
a consideration. I think he deserves strong consideration.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Here here's another one that doesn't get any Pete does
talk to you when you go up there to visit camp.
Speaker 12 (33:32):
No, I mean I don't know. I don't know Mike
that well. But so no, I'm not giving you. I'm
not giving guy flowers that I know I know where
he does. I think I think, I think what Todd
Bowles has done with the Bucks is incredible. You know,
we always talk about the forty nine ers injuries. Yesterday
Baker Mayfield was throwing They said fourth, fifth.
Speaker 8 (33:51):
And six receivers.
Speaker 12 (33:52):
No, it was five six and seven because one, two, three,
and four we're all out Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, Jalen Millen,
and then Abuka went out in the game. So it's
five six and seven and he found a way to
win a game. The offensive line, nobody, not one time,
have they played with anybody on that line that should
have the five across that was supposed to start the season.
They've lost Canty, They've had injuries in the secondary, and
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here they are at five and one, and all of
a sudden, you look around. They're the number one seed
right now in the NFC, and if they get their
guys back, which a lot of those guys are going
to come back, they're going to be factors in the
NFC to go win it all this year.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
I really believe that, Pete. What was a pick you
made this weekend that you were on the right side
on but ultimately you lost And who's to blame?
Speaker 8 (34:41):
That's a good question.
Speaker 12 (34:42):
I don't know if there were any like that this
week to be honest with.
Speaker 6 (34:45):
You, you just lost a bunch.
Speaker 8 (34:48):
No, well it wasn't a great week. Let's put it
that way. There's been better.
Speaker 12 (34:52):
I mean I won't that, Brady, Let's see, but I
was no, not really. I don't think there are any
to be honest with.
Speaker 8 (35:03):
You, because.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Where were you on saddle on Jacksonville?
Speaker 12 (35:09):
I had the Dolphins plus so they and they covered
even though they lost the game. Oh, I'll give you
a Dallas should have won that game.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
So that's the one that there's always won.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
Why would you put any faith in Dallas's defense at
this point. Dak's been great, but they can't stop anybody.
Rico'dowell was at a career day.
Speaker 12 (35:29):
It's unbelievable that you're right the Cavities in their defenses.
Like I think any running back in this league could
roll in for just four yards per carry. No matter
who you are, you're gonna get it against that team easily.
Speaker 8 (35:41):
I mean, you're right.
Speaker 12 (35:42):
Rigo o' daell just ran wild through them around. I
mean everybody. It's funny because Rigo dall has been really good.
I give him a lot of credit, but he played
that defense one week and they're twenty ninth in the
league give it up and in the last three games,
they'd give him one hundred and seventy yards per game
on the ground, which would be last in the league.
And they'd be Miami Dolphins on the ground, which is
the team that is last in the league on rush defense.
(36:04):
I mean, so we got to you know, we go
down again. It's proof you pulled running back off the
shelf and put him in and he's going to rush
for yards against run defenses.
Speaker 8 (36:12):
That's what they do. But mcdallas is right, You're right.
Speaker 12 (36:15):
I don't know why I should have won that game,
but I showed up. Uh.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
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Speaker 12 (36:28):
You got a guys, take care there he is.
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Speaker 12 (37:24):
Out what's left tons of incredible.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Here's the leftoverar Lorena, I got some pretty yummied leftovers
for you boys today.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
EWN can I throw one in there before you go
to whatever pops you're gonna get to? Did you guys
hear about the reason why Anthony Richardson was in active
this past week for the Colts?
Speaker 4 (37:44):
Oh wow, way to take my story, Brady well, usually.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Even talking about Taylor Swift, so my apologies, which they
did say Swift, yeah exactly.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
Wasn't gonna put that in my leftover Yeah whatever.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Yeah you were, yeah, you were anyway, you were so
before for the game. A lot of quarterbacks use these
different like basically really strong or or tense like rubber
bands to help warm up their shoulders. Apparently, and this
is according to Shane Styke and their head coach in
the postgame press conference. Anthony Richardson was going through his
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warm up routine and at some point the band ripped,
it snapped, and it caused whatever was attached to to
hit it cut his face, hit him in the orbital bone,
and it literally fractured his orbital bone. What yes, Like,
you cannot make this stuff up. And for a player
(38:40):
who's had again kind of some freak injuries and things happened,
just an odd career so far in the NFL, this
probably takes the cake.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
Takes the cake, all right?
Speaker 5 (38:54):
Now?
Speaker 4 (38:54):
Is that is that legit?
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Or did he get No, it's a hundred percent legit.
I talked to some folks and they said no. The
rubber band was attached to like a like a hanger
that goes across in your or like the bar, the
hanger bar that goes across the locker, and it literally
snapped off, hit him in the face.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
The hanger bart him. Yeah, first of all, how strong
are you to rip that hanger bar off?
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Well, the band has a lot of tension on it,
so it kind of is what it is.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
But I just that's a hard one to comment on. Well,
it's a guy like a guy like that who's like
a physical specimen and physically has not been able to
hold up like it just and and flew creaky injuries
like that. That's it. That's awful man.
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addressed the uh, the elephant in the room. Uh, the
firing of James Franklin that took place by Penn State
over the weekend. You know, got that out of the way.
Now the search the search begins. I'm assuming and uh,
you know, maybe uh maybe you know, we'll get the
(01:39):
announcement on the air. Maybe LeVar will provide some insight
on that at some point.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
What announcement on the air? You want to announce that
the next head coaches already I think they're gonna I.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
Think that Harry Smith is the interim head coach. Alumni
Letterman was a receiver, been a defensive backs coach, been
been very successful with the development of defensive backs at
Penn State. There you go, there's your announcement. Interesting that good?
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Not really, but.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yeah, I mean, right, okay, what you're just a weird
one when it comes to this stuff.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Why that's what's so weird about it.
Speaker 6 (02:17):
You want like an announcement right now of what listen.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
I want big announcements to happen on our show.
Speaker 6 (02:23):
That's what I'm not going to have it on our show.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
That's unfortunate. Why would that happen. Why would you think
that it would happen.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, I mean unless you're a vampire. There's the hours
that you normally operate.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
I mean, he's got figured he would have some you know,
get some intel on this and get figured out, you it,
get this whole thing figured it out. That's like, let's
what like we should all be a part of the
hiring process. Come on to relax. Let's now that being said,
(02:57):
there was also NFL this weekend. You saw Joe Flacco
show up in Cincinnati and just start slinging it around,
just starts slinging it around against the Packers. They lost, right,
And I don't know if this is ultimately going to
turn into Cincinnati making a run and being you know,
(03:17):
potentially a playoff team by the time Joe Burrow returns.
But at least they gave themselves a better shot because
they did look significantly better with Joe Flacco in the
lineup than they did with Jake Browning.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
I don't see it. I don't see it that way.
I think I think with Joe Burrow being out as
long as he is, I think it's a lost season.
That's what I think. I mean, Listen, they're two four,
but I just I think it's a lost season.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Good.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
No, No, I think we're all there. It's just like
they probably felt like this gave them a better chance,
and they're not wrong. Like Flacco coming in that game
was a one score game, you know, kind of late,
and he gave him a shot, and you'd have to
think that he's only going to get better the longer
he's actually there and able to go through the offense,
so that that kind of helps, I guess, But I
(04:03):
don't know, man, I mean outside of Pittsburgh, and then
you look at the rest of the AFC picture, like no.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
One's really running away with it.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
So maybe there's an outside shot if they could get
Burrow back in time and Flacco can win them some games,
they would be able to hold onto a wildcard spot potentially, right,
they could get that seventh spot, but it's a big if.
I just still like kind of come away just impress
though with Flaccou. I mean just I mean, the dude
gets traded like he's like, oh right, we're starting right
(04:32):
away too, and they're like, oh, it's the offense. Yeah,
there's some similar verbiage people don't understand. So hard to
do what he did this past week. It is so
hard and and and you know, for him to be
able to, you know, feel confident whatsoever throwing to any
of those guys that he just had a week with,
I mean there's probably an element of like, all right,
(04:55):
let's just go out there and wing it, because like,
what can you really expect? But the truth is too,
like he's he's doing a much better job rolling with
the punches and dealing with this transition than most quarterbacks would.
It's really really difficult what he's doing out there.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
Dylan Gabriel, he didn't have a horrible game. He just
couldn't get the ball in the end zone and couldn't
get points on the board. I'm just looking at the
AFC North. The Ravens look like pure putrit right now.
Getting Lamar back after the bye though, that is fair,
that is important, But they've lost some of those games
(05:35):
with Lamar Jackson too, And I just wonder if you're
a Super Bowl pay bar. I know, how where they're
currently at right now, like they look like how Penn
State looks like a team that's lost belief in their
ability to be able to win. And I just wonder
how much of a difference can Lamar Jackson make in
(05:58):
an environment where you have a group of people that
maybe just don't believe anymore that this is a team
that can win. And so to me, I mean you
look at just the way that the AFC North is unfolding.
The Browns they can't I mean, they're they're competitive, but
(06:21):
they they just really can't seemingly get it right one
at one and four.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
The Bengals that they've won two games, well yeah they've
won two games.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
But.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
They can't you can't believe that they're trending in the
right direction. So now we're looking at a Pittsburgh Steelers
team that really, to me, are all alone, like, okay,
if maybe they can make the wild card, maybe the
Bengals can find a way to to the wildcar. I
don't I don't see Lamar Jackson being so much of
(06:54):
a catalyst that. I mean, he could be, but I
just don't see it where they're at right now, where
he's going to be this catalyst to get it back
on track.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
It just doesn't look good in Baltimore, almost as though like,
did did Harball lose the locker room? Did he lose
his locker room? That's how bad they look. I've never
seen the Ravens look this bad.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
So if you had to guess, because you can on DraftKings,
you can bet on teams to make the playoffs, yes
or no, Brady, what would you guess? The line is
on the Ravens to make the playoffs at one in five.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
At one in five, yeah, plus one fifty even money,
really yeah, even money.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
And I think there's been I think there's been a
handful of teams that have had a one in five
start that have made the postseason. But I think that
tells you that's just the belief they have in Lamar Jackson.
That's the belief that had. But that doesn't necessarily mean
that that's what it's going to be. One in five,
that is a very very tall task for anyone. The
(08:02):
Bengals are ten to one, which is obviously you know
Joe Burrow is going to be out longer than Lamar Jackson.
So that's that's why that's the long shot it is.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
But you know, even money sounds crazy to me, But
I mean the season is still still young, but that
still puts a lot of pressure on the Ravens to
have to try to climb back in listen, game back game.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
You could probably do it.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
It's doable, but that's a lot of that's a lot
of pressure to be at one in five schedules.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
What's wild to me is, and this is based on
what I'm searching on the internet, it's saying that starting
off one in five with a seventeen game schedule, those
teams have about a one percent chance to qualify for
the playoffs. I don't know about jo and four is
(08:52):
like four to ten percent. One in five is is
a one percent chance?
Speaker 4 (08:56):
All right?
Speaker 6 (08:57):
That is wild to me.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
So they come back after the Lamar Jackson's healthy, all right,
So Lamar Jackson's ready to go after the bye? All right?
Tell me? Tell me, are you guys giving the Ravens
a win or a loss in these games? So are
you guys? Are you?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Well, hold on for a second, we act like Lamar
hasn't played this season, even with Lamar, they've lost games.
It's like they've just been dropping games because Cooper rushes
in a quarterback. They got defensive issues, they got all
kinds of issues right now.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
All right, So after the bye week hosting the Bears,
win or loss for the Ravens, that's a W. Yeah,
I'm not sure, all right.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
No, that's an easy one. Bears fans like Jonas can
say otherwise, that should be an easy one.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Sure, should be short week at the Dolphins on a Thursday,
and that's a win. That's three and five at the
Vikings the next week. Nope, that's an l you sure, yep,
I don't know for sure. Ye, at the Vikings, I
think they win that game. Okay, so let's say that.
So what makes you? What makes you? So?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
We're just taking your opinion now on this where we're
doing on.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Four this week. If anybody's got an opinion that matters
on this show, you're four.
Speaker 6 (10:10):
No, and you just asked for and you just asked
for an extra point.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Yes, I'm going to get greedy and all right. So
after the Vikings you've got the Browns, the Jets. That's
a win. That's the Bengals that's a win they could eater. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yeah, but that put them at based on our calculations,
six and.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Six two three, four five, because we didn't give them
Minnesota you did, so that would put him at six
and one.
Speaker 7 (10:44):
Total total record, bro all right, sorry, five and one
in that total record, six and six, six and six.
It gets them in. It gets them in the conversation.
It doesn't what do you mean at six and six
at that point in the.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
What the remainder of the schedule?
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Then then you got the Steelers. Nope, okay, the Bengals again,
maybe maybe with Burrow, I don't know, the Patriots maybe,
and then you're gonna close up at Green Bay and
at Pittsburgh.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
No oh yeah, nope, that could be tough.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
By the way, you mentioned the Patriots.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
They're looking looking good, said are looking good?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Just said, bar.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
They're looking good, Drake May slinging it, they're looking good.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I love when they make up these like obscure stats
that they put up on this gigantic graphic. I'm like,
I didn't know how to put that into context. It
was like five straight games throwing for over two hundred
yards sometimes with a one hundred quarterback grading re more
so I was like, oh, all right.
Speaker 6 (11:50):
What the hell is that?
Speaker 8 (11:51):
Sev?
Speaker 6 (11:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (11:53):
Is he?
Speaker 6 (11:54):
Is he playing good?
Speaker 4 (11:54):
All right?
Speaker 6 (11:55):
Is that what it means?
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Great?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Like just put up a put up a big like
card that says Drake may playing good the last five games,
maybe better than whatever the hell they think looks good
on it, like a stat I mean literally, like, what
are some of the stats that we throw out there?
Speaker 9 (12:10):
Like in five of the last six weeks, one he
throws for two hundred yards but also gets sack twice,
but then also fumbles the ball but recovers himself.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Can we start doing that? Like each week we'll just
make up an obscure stat and see if we can
run with it. Just come up with something like that.
I think that would be fun because you know, somebody
will regurgitate it and then I'll get some run on
social media. Hey, by the way, did you hear speaking
of the AFC North, I know we mentioned the Bengals
and the Steelers. Did you hear? Jamar Chase had some
(12:42):
interesting thoughts in previewing because that is the Thursday night
game that is coming up. So Thursday night, you've got
the Bengals, You've got the Steelers, you know, there's all
sorts of you know, discussion about you know, Joe Flacco
and how this is gone and it's Amazon Video, and
so Jamar Chase wanted to preview the game a little
(13:03):
bit to get people set up for Al Michaels and
Kirk Curve Street to call this game on Thursday night.
Just take a listen.
Speaker 10 (13:09):
But this nice game is always the most important game,
just because of the divisional game also, but uh, just
the rankings that we got going on the standards where
we are right now. We know still gonna try to
come in and row doug Us and kill us, but
we're gonna be ready for that challenge and we're gonna
be waiting for it.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
Tang, no, lou no. No.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
By the way, Lorena, who found that sound? Is that
Jonas who found that sound?
Speaker 4 (13:38):
I believe it was. That's about right, Tang.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
You got problems, man?
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Why do I got problems? Re rolled it in? Okay,
that's my job. I don't know if you knew that.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah, I just we have two nice young ladies who
are working with us today and you have to put
them in this position.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Jonas, I didn't say it. Talk to Jamar. He actually
told me to do it for in case you missed it.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
See. Even worse, he's trying to put it on you
for that segment.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
That's a lie.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Between you asking for a.
Speaker 6 (14:11):
Point and now this.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
You're a terrible human being for this is like you're
just you're a terrible human being.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
It's another log on the fire. All right, it's unfortunate burning.
He said, just go ahead and jump in it.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
It's hot.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I'm not sure what's worse. Either you're trying to play
these vulgar clips or you're trying to ask for an
extra point.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
I thought you guys would be kind run jump in it.
I just wanted to jump in us the line. The
line moved by a point, you know, I'm just hoping
for some you know what about the airs on a
state line that moved, you know, based on well, by.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
The way I took my l on that, that was
absolute dog crap. All right, he gets ruled out afterwards,
and the line moves a bunch, which I would have not.
Speaker 6 (14:52):
Even bet that game. I'll tell you what I'm not
complaining about.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
It's not how works.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
There's no deal, no deal.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
That the Kenny Am Shenanigans, no deal with the injury.
Speaker 6 (15:05):
No deal, no deal.
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what's up guys. How are you hi, Pete? Pete? How
you doing? Pete?
Speaker 8 (17:19):
Better than James Franklin?
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Oh yeah, you're yeah.
Speaker 12 (17:27):
By the way, by the way, you guys are right.
I tried yesterday. Somebody somebody said, oh, James Flanklin got fired.
Speaker 8 (17:33):
Good.
Speaker 12 (17:33):
You could take two million of the fifty million and
go put it in a room and then dive in it.
Speaker 8 (17:36):
That's what I would do.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
Yeah, he didn't lose, he just lost. Yeah, you know,
but it was a good track, Pete, great track. How
did you know?
Speaker 4 (17:49):
How did your team do yesterday?
Speaker 8 (17:51):
They stink? They stink.
Speaker 12 (17:53):
They got blowing, got physically they got physically mal and
their quarterback didn't show up it because they got hurt.
But you know what, even the ad played, they still
would have gotten more. They're not good. They're not They're
not big enough.
Speaker 8 (18:05):
They're not physically big enough.
Speaker 12 (18:06):
And by the way, Texas techle rock them this week.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Well, I was going to say we actually were potentially
going to be out in Tempe for the College Football
show Big New kickoff. But because of that loss, I
think they thought that's maybe not a good sign, could
be a bad deal going out there. So we're going elsewhere.
But I want to know, we were trying to make
our way to Temple. I was looking forward to it. Pete, great,
(18:29):
we're going to Provo. So b YU Utah Top twenty
five matchups obviously change b YU undefeated.
Speaker 12 (18:36):
Yeah yeah, b YU byu rallied against Arizona the other
night they won, so did look look as U is
what they are, Penn State is what they are, and
probably just you know who they are. I mean, there's
the problem with college football is I don't think there
are any great.
Speaker 6 (18:54):
Teams on Ohio State.
Speaker 8 (18:58):
We'll see, we'll see.
Speaker 12 (19:00):
I mean, I'll tell you what Brady Texas check is
damn good.
Speaker 8 (19:03):
I mean that they they are.
Speaker 12 (19:05):
Proof that you can go out and buy whatever you
need doing you can win in college football.
Speaker 8 (19:08):
Right.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Well, okay, but the quarterback got hurt, so we'll see
how that impacts them moving forward. And they lost their
dtackle too. I don't know how long, if he's out
for the season or what the deal is. So one
of those players you're referring to that got bought is
no longer going to be there.
Speaker 12 (19:22):
So yeah, I mean that's that's what college football is nowadays, right, So.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
How's that any different from the NFL. What's free agency? Well,
they have a cap and yeah, and there's a cap too,
that's called the House NCA settlement, so they roughly can
try to figure out how much they want to allocate,
you know, towards the roster in that regard. If there's
collective involvement, there has to be, but even that's been
subject to scrutiny because the CSC and all that. So
(19:51):
there's kind of.
Speaker 6 (19:51):
Like a solid cat.
Speaker 12 (19:52):
You get a four year If you get a four
year contract, you're bound to it by four years and
unless the team releases, you're correct, and college football you
can go jumping forever you want too.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
Well, they make these kids sign contracts.
Speaker 12 (20:02):
Too, now, but Brady, can't they transfer every other year
every year if they want to.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
They could, but they would not get the moneies that
are in that contract.
Speaker 6 (20:11):
So like what you're.
Speaker 12 (20:12):
Saying is kind of mawhere else get the money.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Well, yeah, but that's then how the setup is. If
they sign a two, three, or four, you do base Pete.
By the way, eight of the NFL's on one year contracts.
Speaker 12 (20:25):
No, I get that, Brady, But the bottom line is
you can't if you can't just jump from team to
team like you can in college football, can You're not.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
No, But someone will say that's actually more player empowerment,
like that's actually better for the players. Now, you don't
talk from that perspective because you hate players and you
like to talk from Pete Prisco part of the ownership.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
I don't these guys.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
These guys grow on trees, these running backs grow.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
On all be playing, on all be playing.
Speaker 8 (20:54):
And I was right.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
So, Pete Prisco, I relate better to billionaires than millionaires.
Speaker 8 (21:02):
No, that's not that's not true.
Speaker 12 (21:04):
That's not true.
Speaker 8 (21:05):
He's not true.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
I got one for you. Begets sensitive, Pete, I got
one for you. Are the Jets even worse than you thought?
Speaker 8 (21:15):
Yes, yes they are.
Speaker 12 (21:17):
I mean when you think Aaron Glenn, who is a
former player and has a you know, an attitude about
him and a feistiness about him, would go in and
still a toughness on the defense, right, you figured at
least that, Well, they don't tackle very well, and they
did play better yesterday on defense. I'll give them that offensively.
Speaker 8 (21:38):
We went into the season.
Speaker 12 (21:39):
Thinking what we saw on Sunday is what we've seen
most of the season.
Speaker 8 (21:42):
They're not good on.
Speaker 12 (21:43):
Offense, but they put a lot of assets into an
offensive line that allowed their quarterback to get sacked nine
times on Sunday nine. And then at the end of
the half, what in the hell is that man doing?
They take a punt on fourth down to get a
first down.
Speaker 8 (22:01):
Okay, at the end of the a half.
Speaker 12 (22:03):
Well, why don't you go from there to try and
get something? He does nothing and allows the clock to
run out, and he's getting yelled at by his players.
So I wonder, you know, sometimes you're a coordinator, sometimes
you don't know if the guy's a head coach. Aaron
Glenn has to learn how to be.
Speaker 8 (22:20):
A head coach.
Speaker 12 (22:21):
You have to be involved in game management to the
point where you understand the mechanism of the clock management
and the understanding of what you do. Why would you
fake that field goal if you're not going to go
from there? What's the rationale you didn't want to give
him the ball back? What does that mean?
Speaker 8 (22:39):
I don't get it.
Speaker 12 (22:40):
So I just think that, yeah, they're a mess, and
they're a disaster, and they have guys that haven't played
close to expectations. And I think it's all reflection of
the entire process, but I think it's a reflection of
the coach now having said all that, he doesn't deserve
to be fired. Right now people are saying that, give
me a break, Let's play out the season and see
how this thing goes. But the reality is right now,
(23:02):
it's if you had to grade the Jets and the
coaching and everything that goes into it, it's a big
giant fats.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Let's talk about a team that maybe is exceeding our expectations,
and that's the Pittsburgh Steelers, the best team in the
AFC North. They look to be a team that might
be the third best team in the AFC? Is that
fair to say?
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Pete?
Speaker 8 (23:23):
Do we know? Do we know?
Speaker 12 (23:25):
I mean that's the thing about when we talked about
this last night. Do we know if the Colts and
or the Steelers are any good yet?
Speaker 2 (23:33):
I mean, why do we say that? Though, Dude, like
the Colts might be they probably should be undefeated if
you really think about it.
Speaker 12 (23:40):
Okay, and I'm going to go through the Colts schedule.
Beat the Dolphins, who are dreadful. Beat the Titans who
are dreadful. Beat the Raiders who are dreadful. Now, okay,
then they beat the Cardinals without their starting quarterback.
Speaker 8 (23:54):
Now the other guy might.
Speaker 12 (23:55):
Outplay them yesterday, but he still beat them without their
starting quarterback and the wide receiver went out in the
first They.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Beat a Broncos team that I think you would would
would agree is better.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
Than the Broncos.
Speaker 12 (24:04):
Can't Broncos can't score.
Speaker 8 (24:06):
I mean, Broncos have offensive issues right now.
Speaker 12 (24:08):
And then they and then they lost the Rams in
a game they probably in a game they probably won.
Speaker 8 (24:14):
But so you flip those.
Speaker 12 (24:15):
Games, but we really don't know. Then you go to
the Steelers. Do we know how good they are?
Speaker 8 (24:20):
Look at their schedule? What they beat?
Speaker 12 (24:22):
The Jets, the Browns, who's the other one they beat?
Speaker 2 (24:25):
I mean they Here's here's the general point. Pete is, like,
who's good then in the AFC, because you've got Buffalo,
you've got Indy and you'd say case but the record
is not as good, So like, like, who who are
you like hanging your hat on? Who is good?
Speaker 12 (24:40):
That's that's part of the problem is I don't think
we know if anybody's any good?
Speaker 8 (24:43):
I say it every time this year.
Speaker 12 (24:44):
Is anybody any good? We'll know more about it. Indy
goes to the play the Chargers next week at the Chargers.
That's gonna be a tough game. They win that game,
we'll start believing.
Speaker 8 (24:52):
In them a little bit.
Speaker 12 (24:53):
Okay, the Steelers are gonna I mean, unless Lamar Jackson
can come back and beat Lamar Jackson, they're gonna run
away with that division. I mean, if Lamar Jackson has
a hamm and you guys know better than me because
you played, you played in the league. If you have
an hamstring injury, and Mike Evans always comes back from
hamstring injuries, it reinjures them. Can you be the same
guy three weeks out.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
Three weeks out from It just depends on how serious
the hamstring injury.
Speaker 12 (25:19):
It's one that may have missed two games already, so
it's probably.
Speaker 8 (25:22):
Pretty serious, right.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
It depends, because a really serious hamstring injury, you're talking
months like, it takes a real like you can't even
barely hardly walk when you have a quad pool or
a hamstring pool. So it might not be as crazy
bad as it may seem, even though he's missing time
(25:43):
two weeks time isn't a crazy amount of time for
a hamstring injury if it isn't a serious one. So
if he's coming back, if he's making an attempt to
come back right now and it's been like less than
a month, I would say it's not as severe as
it is.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
It Maybe some people may have made it.
Speaker 12 (26:03):
Sound we'll be limited, will be limiting.
Speaker 8 (26:05):
That's the egglection question. Because Lamar Jackson is limited.
Speaker 12 (26:08):
In what he can do with his ability to run explosiveness,
then that's going to change who he is as a quarterback,
and that's gonna change their offense.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
I think we gotta wait and see how he how
he knows when he's out there. I don't I don't
think there's any other way of knowing how he's going
to respond to the injury, because unless you're right there
with him, you're not going to know the level of
what that that hamstring pool is. It could it could
be as simple as them taping it up or giving
them compression shorts to put on and then it holds
(26:37):
it together. He's good, it's heated, da da da, so
on and so forth. Could be a torto all shot
that helps take away just the discomfort of the pain.
It just all depends on what his tolerance of pain.
There's there's a whole lot of factors. We're just gonna
have to wait and see how it looks when he
plays on it. But I agree with you though. If
he can't move, if he's not if he's not versatile
(26:59):
and what it is that he's bringing to the table,
then you're going to see much of the same results.
If he's not able to be a you know, a
person that moves out of the pot, outside of the
pocket and is able to be mobile with what he's doing.
I mean, I would tend to agree with you on that.
Speaker 12 (27:15):
Yeah, And if that's the case, they're in big trouble
and they're done, and then Steelers will win the.
Speaker 8 (27:19):
Division no matter what.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
Do you think that they'd have a chance to make
a wild cart run or even the Bengals. Do you
think any other team in the North would have an
opportunity to make it into the playoffs?
Speaker 8 (27:34):
I mean no, I don't.
Speaker 12 (27:38):
I Look, the Ravens schedule softens up a great deal
in the next five games, So if Lamar Jackson can
come back and be Lamar Jackson, they'll get back into
the mix. I don't think there's any doubt about that.
But if he can't, don't I don't see how that
happens with that the loster, the way it's constructing, all.
Speaker 8 (27:53):
The injuries they have. So no, I would say, I
don't think.
Speaker 12 (27:56):
The Bengals and Joe Flacco are going to go wild
card hunting.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
No, I do not, all right, So Pete, what do
you make of the Drake may start to his season?
All right? If we don't know, you know who is
good yet? The Patriots are sitting there at four and two,
and you know now they'll sit back and wait to
see what happens later on tonight.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
But it does.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Feel like Josh McDaniels, Mike rabel They've got Drake Man.
They've got that team headed in the right direction, A
far cry from where they were a year ago.
Speaker 12 (28:27):
Under drawd Mayo, no question, no question about it. And
Mike rabeles a good football coach. He instills a toughness
in the team and gets them to play weekend and
week out. And Drake may is a franchise quarterback. I mean,
did Drake may He made some throws on Sunday. There
was a throw call back on a throat to step
on Diggs for pasts interference. That yeah, yeah, I mean
(28:48):
that throw was incredible. I mean, some of the throws
he made out out it's the Saints. But the week
before they went to Buffalo and you beat the Bills.
And when you go to Buffalo beat the Bills and
you come on the road and you go play the
Saints on the road again, that's a natural letdown. And
it was a it was a thing. You know, they
fought through it a bit, but they found a way.
And that's the signe of a good football team. You know,
you talk about a wildcard team. I think that team's
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a legitimate wildcard team, particularly when you look at the
two bottom feeders below them in the division and the
Dolphins and the Jets.
Speaker 8 (29:16):
You would think that the New England.
Speaker 12 (29:17):
Patriots will be one of the one of the wildcard
teams come playoff time, particularly the way Drake may is
playing a particularly the.
Speaker 8 (29:22):
Way they play for that coach.
Speaker 12 (29:24):
So yeah, I'm impressed by the New England Patriots.
Speaker 6 (29:28):
Pete has San Francisco hited ceiling.
Speaker 12 (29:34):
You know, Brady a week ago they went to It's
funny how we change our narrative in a week. But
you're not wrong, though, And here's why. They go to
la and beat the beat the Rams on the Thursday night,
and everybody goes, oh my god, that's vintage Kyle Shanahan.
Speaker 8 (29:49):
Look at back Jones, he's great.
Speaker 12 (29:50):
Look what they did and they want and they're right
back in the thick of things. And then they go
to Tampa and lose a close game, but they lose
Fred Warner and and that's for season. So you take
the heart and soul of the defense off the defense,
and you take away Nick Bosa off that defense, and
then you go to the offense. Kittle hasn't been there.
Perty's not there. And so of the six major supposed
(30:13):
stars of the count Purdy that you have on that roster,
two of them are playing. Two Berett Williams, who's not
quite the same player he was, and Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 8 (30:24):
And that's it.
Speaker 12 (30:25):
And so week in and week out you're challenged to go,
you know, compete against these teams with the backup quarterback
who's played pretty good football, and a roster that is,
you know, a challenge to put together because you pay
those guys so much money, and your star star laden
and so when when those stars go out, your team
is in big trouble. And right now I think the
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forty nine ers in big trouble.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
What's what's going on with your Jacksonville Jaguars? Where are
you at with them?
Speaker 4 (30:55):
Well?
Speaker 12 (30:55):
I thought they there was a big win last week
against Kansas City, and Sunday they laid in and didn't
play very well. I mean, this is an offensive line
that gave up six sacks going into the game and
gave up seven on Sunday. I mean, they just were
brutalized up front. Having said all that, I think Seattle's
defense is significantly better than we give him credit for,
(31:16):
particularly on the defense. They played with a bunch of
guys out on the secondary, and Sam Darnold's playing at
a high level. Look, I have my reservation going into
the season. I'll be the first to admit it. The
guy's averaging over nine and a half yards per attempt.
The ball is going down the field in the league
where nobody throws the ball down the field. So I
think that that game was much more telling about Seattle.
(31:37):
On the positive side, Jacksonville came off.
Speaker 8 (31:39):
A big win.
Speaker 12 (31:40):
It's hard to get back up again, but they got
to play better on offense. I think their offense is
not very good right now, and you know, maybe it's
time to start pointing the fingers at the quarterback a
little bit and he's got to be better in a
certain situations.
Speaker 8 (31:54):
Now.
Speaker 12 (31:54):
He did have a drop in the middle of the
field on a key third down by Brian Thomas. Once again,
that would have continued to drive to go tie it up.
But they didn't play very well on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Wait, so are you trying to tell me that sam
Donold's not who he thought he was? Yes, okay, so
you're still waiting on that bad games to be like
see I told you.
Speaker 8 (32:16):
Yah, yeah, yeah, Brady, Brady, you.
Speaker 12 (32:20):
Know that you are with your usually works out all
the time.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
And yeah, because because it only takes one game then
you make that claim and then it's like he plays
straight from five more and he's like, nah, no, I'll
come back down to normal. He'll come back down to
who he is. Let's just wait for.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Him about three years.
Speaker 12 (32:36):
I got about three so he needs three good years
to kind of level off his career.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
By the way, I love how you don't give him
like any any leeway whatsoever. If we're going to a
Jets organization that like just cannot figure it out. And
yet here's at no point are you like, yeah, maybe
we should wipe that clean. Nope, we're just gonna hold
it against him the rest of his life.
Speaker 12 (32:59):
No, I'm not holding it against him. I just got
to see more and and but and right now I'm
seeing more. I'm gonna give him his flowers. Brady, I said,
he's been playing good football, and rightfully so he deserves
all the accolades he's getting. He's in the MVP conversation.
How about that?
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Wow? All right, Pete, who's your coach of the year.
Who's your coach of the year today? Right now? Pete,
you got you buy your mind?
Speaker 12 (33:22):
Well, I mean, I think you have to give rabel
a consideration. I think he deserves strong consideration.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Here here's another one that doesn't get any Pete does
talk to you when you go up there to visit camp.
Speaker 12 (33:32):
No, I mean I don't know. I don't know Mike
that well. But so no, I'm not giving you. I'm
not giving guy flowers that I know I know where
he does. I think I think, I think what Todd
Bowles has done with the Bucks is incredible. You know,
we always talk about the forty nine ers injuries. Yesterday
Baker Mayfield was throwing They said fourth, fifth.
Speaker 8 (33:51):
And six receivers.
Speaker 12 (33:52):
No, it was five six and seven because one, two, three,
and four we're all out Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, Jalen Millen,
and then Abuka went out in the game. So it's
five six and seven and he found a way to
win a game. The offensive line, nobody, not one time,
have they played with anybody on that line that should
have the five across that was supposed to start the season.
They've lost Canty, They've had injuries in the secondary, and
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here they are at five and one, and all of
a sudden, you look around. They're the number one seed
right now in the NFC, and if they get their
guys back, which a lot of those guys are going
to come back, they're going to be factors in the
NFC to go win it all this year.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
I really believe that, Pete. What was a pick you
made this weekend that you were on the right side
on but ultimately you lost And who's to blame?
Speaker 8 (34:41):
That's a good question.
Speaker 12 (34:42):
I don't know if there were any like that this
week to be honest with.
Speaker 6 (34:45):
You, you just lost a bunch.
Speaker 8 (34:48):
No, well it wasn't a great week. Let's put it
that way. There's been better.
Speaker 12 (34:52):
I mean I won't that, Brady, Let's see, but I
was no, not really. I don't think there are any
to be honest with.
Speaker 8 (35:03):
You, because.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Where were you on saddle on Jacksonville?
Speaker 12 (35:09):
I had the Dolphins plus so they and they covered
even though they lost the game. Oh, I'll give you
a Dallas should have won that game.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
So that's the one that there's always won.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
Why would you put any faith in Dallas's defense at
this point. Dak's been great, but they can't stop anybody.
Rico'dowell was at a career day.
Speaker 12 (35:29):
It's unbelievable that you're right the Cavities in their defenses.
Like I think any running back in this league could
roll in for just four yards per carry. No matter
who you are, you're gonna get it against that team easily.
Speaker 8 (35:41):
I mean, you're right.
Speaker 12 (35:42):
Rigo o' daell just ran wild through them around. I
mean everybody. It's funny because Rigo dall has been really good.
I give him a lot of credit, but he played
that defense one week and they're twenty ninth in the
league give it up and in the last three games,
they'd give him one hundred and seventy yards per game
on the ground, which would be last in the league.
And they'd be Miami Dolphins on the ground, which is
the team that is last in the league on rush defense.
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I mean, so we got to you know, we go
down again. It's proof you pulled running back off the
shelf and put him in and he's going to rush
for yards against run defenses.
Speaker 8 (36:12):
That's what they do. But mcdallas is right, You're right.
Speaker 12 (36:15):
I don't know why I should have won that game,
but I showed up. Uh.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
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we love you, stud to you next week.
Speaker 12 (36:28):
You got a guys, take care there he is.
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Speaker 12 (37:24):
Out what's left tons of incredible.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Here's the leftoverar Lorena, I got some pretty yummied leftovers
for you boys today.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
EWN can I throw one in there before you go
to whatever pops you're gonna get to? Did you guys
hear about the reason why Anthony Richardson was in active
this past week for the Colts?
Speaker 4 (37:44):
Oh wow, way to take my story, Brady well, usually.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Even talking about Taylor Swift, so my apologies, which they
did say Swift, yeah exactly.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
Wasn't gonna put that in my leftover Yeah whatever.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Yeah you were, yeah, you were anyway, you were so
before for the game. A lot of quarterbacks use these
different like basically really strong or or tense like rubber
bands to help warm up their shoulders. Apparently, and this
is according to Shane Styke and their head coach in
the postgame press conference. Anthony Richardson was going through his
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warm up routine and at some point the band ripped,
it snapped, and it caused whatever was attached to to
hit it cut his face, hit him in the orbital bone,
and it literally fractured his orbital bone. What yes, Like,
you cannot make this stuff up. And for a player
(38:40):
who's had again kind of some freak injuries and things happened,
just an odd career so far in the NFL, this
probably takes the cake.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
Takes the cake, all right?
Speaker 5 (38:54):
Now?
Speaker 4 (38:54):
Is that is that legit?
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Or did he get No, it's a hundred percent legit.
I talked to some folks and they said no. The
rubber band was attached to like a like a hanger
that goes across in your or like the bar, the
hanger bar that goes across the locker, and it literally
snapped off, hit him in the face.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
The hanger bart him. Yeah, first of all, how strong
are you to rip that hanger bar off?
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Well, the band has a lot of tension on it,
so it kind of is what it is.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
But I just that's a hard one to comment on. Well,
it's a guy like a guy like that who's like
a physical specimen and physically has not been able to
hold up like it just and and flew creaky injuries
like that. That's it. That's awful man.
Speaker 5 (39:43):
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