November 13, 2025 • 41 mins
To wrap up the last hour, Albert Breer stops on by as they gear up for another week of football, a look in to the Jets after a couple wins, & a new edition of the Leftovers!
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Albert Brier was really about to be a hater abe,
Good morning. I was really about to hate on you.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
You guys got me fired up like a little poison
to get you going up there.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yeah that's right. Yeah, let's go, Albert. How you feeling, man,
How you doing? How's everything going? I'm good, I'm good.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
I'm good.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
How you guys doing?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Not too bad?
Speaker 6 (02:00):
You know, I'm trying to figure out what's gonna have
with the giants?
Speaker 5 (02:03):
Man?
Speaker 6 (02:04):
Was that unexpected for you? Did you get the sense
that that may happen in seasoning and it's just gonna
be dable? I think most people's question is why not
Joe Shane as well.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
Yeah, well, let's start with like why now I think
it is, like, you know.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
You'd be right to think this is out of character
for the Giants. This isn't generally the way they operate.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
But you know, I think it was just kind of
like the repeat of a.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Lot of different things.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
And so, you know, you start with the fact that.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
They're two and eight for the third straight year, which
when somebody there told me that, I was a little
taken aback, like, wow, I didn't realize.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
That was the case.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
They haven't won consecutive games in almost two years.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
And then you look at kind.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Of a couple of things that happened this year. They
have a big win on the Chargers. The next week,
they they lose to the Saints.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
In New Orleans.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
They have a big win over the Eagles, and then
they then come to the blown lead in Denver, and
then that bloone lead in Denver is followed by another
big blown lead in Chicago this weekend, and so you know,
I think it's just like a pattern of things over
and over and over again, and it's this just isn't
getting better. So you know, this gives them an opportunity to,
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you know, really do their research out in the open
and start their search. Now they're gonna look at Mike
Kaska as as as a potential head coaching candidate. You know,
Casca is somebody who's got who played in the league,
who's got you know, the Andy Reids stamp of approval, and.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
You know, and and and and it's.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Really well respected. I had, you know, did well in
interviews when he's had the chance to interview for ed
coaching jobs too.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
And then as far as keeping Joe Shane, I mean,
I I don't know that.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Anything's set in stone yet. I think that the big
thing for them now is he's done a lot to
modernize their operation.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
They were really old school, and he's done a lot
to sort of.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Change where they're at and you know, bring everybody together.
They're under one system over the last four years. So
I don't think they just wanted to throw all of
the progress they're out right away and didn't see the
need to do that right now.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
So Hilly the head coaching search and we'll see which
way that goes.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
You know, we've seen cases in the past where the
general manager made it through an initial firing and didn't
make it through the end so I'm not saying anything's impossible,
but for now, Jolie, the effort to go find the
next head coach.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Now, one are the chances that somebody who currently is
the head coach in Chapel Hill would potentially be on
the list of candidates, Like I think.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Bill would walk on hot coals to get that job.
I just I don't know that the Giants will do it.
I mean, if this had been ten years ago, yeah,
I could see that.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
He's seventy three years old and.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Like things haven't gone good of late. You know, I
think one of the biggest problems he's had over the
last five years has been his ability to fill out
of staff. That was one thing he was incredible at,
like when they were really.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Rolling in New England.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
His ability to develop people, players, coaches, you know, front
office people that like machine kept churning and chearning and
churning over his twenty years and.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
Over his first twenty years New England.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
And really slowed down at the end. And so you know,
I I'm rooting for it. You know, Jonas, that would
be great, That'd be an awesome story. You know, like
let's get Bill Belichick or Lane Kiff into New York Like,
that would be fun to see.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
There those guys there.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
I just don't know that it's the fit for what
the Giants need right now.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Lane Kiffin would be a vibe in New York.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Uh, that would be fun. That's not really like and
you got the connection.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
To Jackson Dart.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
But I I just I that generally hasn't been the
sort of way the Giants go. But I mean I
think that it's on them now, and to their credit,
they are going to go into this with a really
open mind. That is on them now to rethink a
bunch of things because you look at the track record now.
The last time they successfully hired a head coach had
a successful head coaching higher with two thousand and four
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with Tom Coughlin. So it's been almost it's been over
twenty years since they've got one of these.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Right, Abe.
Speaker 7 (06:15):
I wanted to ask you about Ben Johnson. I mean,
you guys wrote about it the three Stages of Winning
and just how he has has really kind of worked
with or I guess team building more so than I
guess winning. But it just seems as though at six
and three, his impact on this Beers team has been outstanding.
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What's the you know, what's the ceiling for them this season?
And from your estimation, I mean.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Maybe you get in the playoffs seeing and scratch out
a win. Like I don't know, I don't know that
there's much beyond that, but I think you've certainly created
a foundation for the future now. And Gale is playing better.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
Too, you know.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
That's the other thing is like I think what's impressive
about it is like they really got to the early
parts of the season with Caleb being pretty inconsistent and
like going through it, and like now it's starting to
feel like they're coming out the other side from a
quarterback development standpoint.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Not that like he's a superstar, but.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Oh no, you know.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
We're good.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Good West lost it all right, So I just walked
outside for a second.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
But I wanted to get some fresh air. I appreciate that.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Yeah, yeah, so, I mean, but Kayala has made some
huge plays the last couple of weeks, the Throat of
Love one to to beat the to beat the Bengals
in Cincinnati, and then you know, two big runs to
beat the Giants last week. So you know, I think
that piece of it, like that you're seeing Caleb like
come along as their winning is a great time for
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where they're going.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
And you know, certainly I think.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Like their ability to build along the line, to scrimmage
over the last couple of off seasons, paying.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Off to.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
Hey, Albert, why are you getting shippy with some guy
on X last night?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Over at Action in the Northern Illinois game?
Speaker 5 (08:16):
Oh yeah, that was fun? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Well, I mean, I I I live in Massachusetts or
state University is the University of Massachusetts, and so like
I don't know, every so often I'll turn on some
Action and I honestly did not even know until last
night that Hugh mass is now a full member of
the of the MAC, which I guess like the regional
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thing with conferences.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Has been out the window.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
I don't think.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
I don't think I live in Mid America, but the
State University here's in the Mid America Conference. So uh yeah,
that was that was really ugly. They're really really bad,
I mean, and I turned on the game thinking, like,
you know, because I've have friends that went to you Mats,
So like I started turning.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
On the game like all right, like I'm going to
come out of this.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
As some material to just shove in their face, you
know what I mean? And you know, but I thought,
like going in, I'm like, in order to Illinois is
generally like really really like I mean historically it's been
like a really good NAC team, right like over the
last twenty twenty five years.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
Yeah, it's pretty good, all right, Like so they're getting
you know.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
They're getting the crap beating out of them by a
good MAC team. Then I look down on the score
bug and look at look at the record, and this
is a pretty down year.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
For North Arolina.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Yeah, so yeah, all the way around. I mean, I
I thought there was like some unintentional comedy in the game.
It was that was something else. But yeah, I didn't expect.
I didn't expect to get like, you know, shots.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
Fire back on the on the maction.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
But but but there, right there, I was in the
ring on a Monday night.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Not much on the home field advantage front either.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Right yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I was. Yeah, so again,
like I didn't expect to be fighting one of those
battles on a Wednesday night, But there I was.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Alber Breer with us here on Fox Sports Radio, senior
NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the MMQB.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
How's this whole thing with aj.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Brown going to play out because it just feels like, look,
if you look at the offense, and we were talking
about it earlier, Saquon Barkley is having a way down year.
Everybody's having a down year, yet he's the only one
that's complaining again like he was last year.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Yeah, I think this is sort of like what you
get at that position sometimes is And look, I do
have some sympathy for it because it's like he is
a hyper competitive guy and like and I think you
even see this with quarterbacks and times too, Like Brady
was this way at the end of New England. You
can't expect a guy to be like.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
Uber competitive when it comes.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
To team accomplishment and then not be as competitive about
his own personal performance.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Right, So, but the.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Fact that the guy, the fact that the guy is
like upset that he's not you know, he's not able
to put up the same sort of numbers that he's
used to, or the offense isn't performing at the level
he's become accustomed to, Like I do, I don't think
that's the worst thing.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
In the world.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
I think the problem is that like it keeps happening
when they're winning, and it was happening even last year
when they were pursuing and winning a Super Bowl, you know, And.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
So it's just one of the things.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
You have to consider, where's where's your breaking point and
when does it become When does it get to the
point where the where the problems that way the talent
And I'm not sure that we're there yet. And they
didn't ever consider trading him in season because the spot
they're in to go and pursue a championship now, another
championship now. But I certainly think it becomes a discussion
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point in the off season. And the interesting thing about
these sorts of things is obviously all the other teams,
the thirty one other teams see this, Well, there's another
team that wants him, like the Eagles don't need to
shop them like that. That team's going to make that
phone call, you know, when you get to when you.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
Get to February and March. So I certainly think that,
you know, if they.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Don't win another championship, this is something we'll be revisiting
in the off season and we'll see what happens.
Speaker 7 (12:16):
Albert Ken are the Colts for real? I know that
that's probably cliche at this point or redundant, whatever it
may be.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
But they have the Chiefs coming up.
Speaker 7 (12:29):
I know you've written about or someone wrote about the
Chiefs still being the best team in the AFC, the
Colts get an opportunity to lockhorns with them. How much
does this provide to the conversation of this is this
for real what we're seeing in Indy?
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (12:49):
I think, you know, I like, like I do think
like Indianapolis has got a pretty complete roster. Is like
you don't look at anything as like, yeah, like that's
that's something that's going to sink them when he gets
to January, like in any in any one area.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
The one thing where I think they've shown.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Some cracks the last couple of weeks against Pittsburgh and
then against Atlanta is like when.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
The game isn't played on their terms.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
They can struggle a little bit.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
And to their credit, like I think against.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Atlanta they were able to reel it back in and
really kind of load back up behind Jonathan Taylor.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
But I think what you see is, you.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Know, when they're not controlling the pace of the game
or when they have to play from behind, the offensive
line just doesn't look the same. And that's I mean
it was. It's been a little shocking to see it
the last couple of weeks, the way that the way
that that that Jones has been hit, the way he's
been sacked by both Pittsburgh.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
And Atlanta, and then it just wasn't happening.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
That way earlier in the year, and.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
That offensive line was such a strength, you know. I
think it's sort of indicative too of.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Like what happens again when you're when you're able to
control the game with Jonathan Taylor and you're never in
second and fifteen and you're never in you know, third
and nine. It's a completely different thing, you know, than
than when all of a sudden you are in those
situations with your offensive line.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
So that would be the.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
One area I would look at as like, okay, like
is there an offensive line issue? And I certainly want
it comes think when it comes time to play the Chiefs,
like the Chiefs are going to be able to challenge
them in that area because of what they bring to
the table with Chris Jones and George Carlofts and all
the schematic stuff that THEI segno is able to do.
Speaker 6 (14:40):
Albert, I want to talk to you about just the
Bill's offense.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
I've struggled.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
We saw an article or earlier this week where someone throughout
the idea or I guess the question is Sean McDermott
about Brian Dable after getting fired immediately joined the Bill staff,
which seems a little bit ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I don't know if that's ever happened quite like that before.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
I just take us through kind of I don't know,
maybe the pressure on Joe Brady and then is that
Has that ever happened before as a head coach? Ever
gotten fired and immediately joined another team?
Speaker 5 (15:12):
Yeah, it happened last year.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Robert Sala went to lafloor staff.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
And immediately after one.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
It was very soon. Yeah, I don't know if it
was immediate, but it was.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
I don't think it was immediate. I think it was
a few weeks. But like that wasn't like.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
I mean, that could be awkward, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Like in last year the Packers had a first year
defensive coordinator. So what Lafleur did with Sala was he
took him and he put him on the offensive staff
and he said, okay, like here is a guy who
can see things, you know, through a defensive lens.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
That can help you guys, just you know, as.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Far as like trouble shooting, different things and all of that,
which I you're seeing more and more of that now
across the NFL, where more guys are in those sorts
of roles.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
It would be I think a.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Little unusual when you've gotten offensive coordinator who now has
his experience as Joe Brady is if like, oh yeah,
like we're going to come in and bring in this
guy to to give you a hand, you know what
I mean, Like I I'm not sure how that would
work exactly, but.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
You know, I think the interesting thing.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
About it is, you know, to me, Brady, is how
week tweak these things become too. You know, like where
the Bills had really built some momentum, like they came
out of their by they absolutely annihilated the Panthers, and
then they come back and they beat the Chiefs right
in week nine, and now all of a sudden, the ship's.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
Righted and then they just have like this weird.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Like almost like puke all over your shoes game against
the Dolphins. And we're talking big picture problems again. So
I you know, I don't know, I'd like to see
like like like another week at least of them looking
that way before I start like sounding the alarm. You know,
I think you're entitled to a bad week that happens
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in the NFL, and I wasn't expecting it to have
it in that fashion. But you know, like I think,
you know Josh Allen and that offense had looked pretty
good the two weeks prior to what happened in Miami.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Is there any long term concern about the Packers and
sort of how they've looked so, I know, it's just
been a couple of years since, but it feels like
maybe people are starting to question Matt Lafleur a little
bit more publicly, like what do you make of all that?
Speaker 5 (17:31):
Well?
Speaker 4 (17:31):
I think I think there are a couple of reasons
why that's happened. Number one, they didn't extend him, you know,
in the off season. I think he has two years
left on his deal. And there was a transition of
power in Green Bay. And for those who don't know,
the team president in Green Bay is is he's not
the owner, but he almost has the power of being
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the owner.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
Right So, Mark Murphy had been.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
There forever he had hired the floor at policy became
the president there at the end of and I think
anytime there's that sort of transition of power, you know
there're gonna be some questions, okay, like does a new
boss want to bring in his own guys, So that's
a natural question. Then they don't extend him, and you know,
then they go all in on this current group. Now
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they've already paid Jordan Love, of course, but then they
they make the move for Michael Parsons, which really is
implicitly saying like we believe like we're in a championship
window right now, and.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
You know, so that puts pressure on everybody.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
And when you have a night like they had the
other night where the defense looks just.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
Fine, like the investment in Parsons look.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Face working out, and.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
You know the offense can't get out of its own.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Way with your fifty five million dollar quarterback, then you
know the questions are going to be answered on the
coaching staff, especially when the head coaches on the offensive
side of the ball. Now, I still think they're behind
Matt and I think.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
They'll be they'll be okay, but they have been very.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Scattershot on the on offense over the course of this year,
and they've struggled to find consistency. I think one thing
that hurt them the other night Tucker Craft had kind
of grown into becoming a focal point for them offensively.
He's obviously down for the year now, and the offensive line,
you know, has I think had some real issues dealing
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with the Eagles front. Which you know, if you have
that sort of issue with that sort of front, you're
going to see more of those in the playoffs. And
so could that be a long term concern, you know,
just as far as where they go when we get
to January, it could be, which you know, again, like
if they're wanting done in the playoffs, you'd probably hear
more of these big picture questions.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
All right, ab moment of truth, Yeah, true, Yeah, here
we go. It's a big one.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Yeah, Ohio State UCLA, Oh go to the shoe.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Yeah. And do you believe that at.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
The end of that big matchup this Saturday night, that
Ohio State will have won the game by more than
thirty two and a half points?
Speaker 8 (19:57):
Wow?
Speaker 5 (19:58):
Thirty two and a half That is a big line.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Oh see, I'm thinking something like thirty eight to seven.
The last time Nico was there is helmet got split
in half.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
He played alright in that game.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Oh what Nico?
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Oh yeah, he was fine in that game. He was fine.
I mean, it's not like they kicked him out. They
wanted him back, right, Like. Yeah, I would say, dude,
I had Purdue covering last week.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
No, I didn't.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
I think I'd messed this up a couple of weeks
in a row. So I would say, take Ucla in
the points.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Wow, Okay, yeah, I just think we were saying here, Albert, no,
last week, no.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
Last week. So last week.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
What screwed me up last week was like our coach
is legitimately treated that like a scrimmage. That's a Purdue team.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
By the way, it.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Took Michigan into deep water.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
But that's neither here.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Okay, but Purdue, like there was there were some there
were some interesting substitution patterns in that Purdue game. If
you really want ship like, it was legitimately being treated
like a scrimmage. And I'm a little afraid of that
happening again. If I'm betting on this, you know what,
screw it, I'll take the buck Eyes.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Yeah yeah, there.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
Screw it. Screw it.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
I'll take the buck Eyes to cover where it's been
doing that this weekend, Brady, we're.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Covering your arch nemesis. We'll be at Wrigley for uh nice.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
Nice. I actually thought I actually thought about going last year.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
I don't know how that is.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
For a football game. They do they still have to
go in only one direction?
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Is that still the way it is?
Speaker 2 (21:32):
I don't know. That's a good question.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
I actually had the same question, and that has not
been answered yet. So I'm pretty sure that it was
a few years ago, right, like, yeah, they can figure
it a way of doing it now where I believe
they go both directions. So okay, unless that, unless I'm
wrong in assuming that I'll be updated here shortly.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
We'll keep me posted on that.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Yeah, I'm sure you're really curious what a Michigan does
this week, Albert. We appreciate it as always. Get them
on X Atrier. He is the senior NFL reporter lead
content strategist at the m MPB at a Thursday tradition
here on the show.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Thanks Aby, All right, Yeah, that was.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
I remember that, And they didn't even think that through
when they put the first game in Wrigley, Like, hey,
you know there's not enough room here because the stadium's
not big, and so they had to just go in
one direction. For an actual football game, like an actual
regular season game, they had to go in one direction.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
So pretty old school. But dang, I think they've gotten
that old thing out there. Dang, Dang, dang Tang, what
a place. I'm jealous Tang.
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It is a Thursday Night, which means the kickoff of
Week eleven in the NFL coming up later on tonight,
and boy, oh boy, do we have a good one
for you. It's the Awful Jets at the Surprising Patriots
(26:02):
with New England A twelve and a half point favorite,
as that game will be featured on Amazon Prime in
all its glory later on tonight. The Patriots, I think,
are rolling out a new New Jersey combination as well too.
I've seen glimpses of it. It's awful. They should go back.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
They should go back to the Patenteel looks man looks more,
New age looks cool.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
How many Jets fans do you think when Brady and
Belichick finally left, were like, thank god, now now we
can get a shot, Like now we can and then
here we are just a few years later, and it's
the same old thing.
Speaker 6 (26:40):
If you're a Jets fan, can you really focus on
any other team when your team struggles the way it does.
Speaker 7 (26:46):
They're on a two game winning streak, that's true, I
mean that's done. Maybe they've started to turn turn the
tide a little bit. I feel like that's what makes
this game interesting to me, because of the hatred that
they harbor for one another. I still think that that's
a part of it. It's interesting because if I if
(27:07):
I recall it, does that did Glenn play for the
Jets when when Mike was in He might have been
in Pittsburgh, but I would assume maybe they they went
against each other as Jets and Patriots as players Vrabel
and Glenn, But anyway, I just I think this is.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
A game that will.
Speaker 7 (27:32):
Go a long way for New England and knocking knocking
the Jets off of their two game high horse. You know,
you start to feel like you're gaining momentum. And I've
been there before. I remember we went oh and five
with Marty our first year, and then that that sixth
game against Carolina we found the way to win it,
(27:53):
and then we rattled off five games straight. You start
to have this sense of belief, and the momentum makes
practices better, you know, that makes the relationships kind of
come together better.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Maybe one year, two thousand and one, one year, yeah, OK,
one year. It just to me.
Speaker 7 (28:14):
This is obviously it being a divisional game, the Patriots
can prove a lot by by doing what they need
to do and taking care of them. But for the Jets,
it's a tremendously, tremendously big game because this goes further
into the bag of belief for them. If they're able
to have a good showing and possibly win this game
(28:36):
tonight on a national stage, it could mark or signify
the changes here, like the change is happening. Maybe culture
is changing in New York.
Speaker 6 (28:50):
Yeah, it would definitely go a long way in building
I guess confidence in Aaron Glenn and what this team
has been, considering the O and seventh Star, considering you know,
you'd like to see your team playing better in the
second half the season the first half and I think
you know, a couple of wins will showcase that. Now, granted,
tight games honestly probably could have gone either way, especially
(29:15):
the Bengals game the way that whole thing worked out,
But this is a new challenge.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
And then this is more to me.
Speaker 6 (29:21):
If like you're the Patriots and you're for real and
you are going to win the division, if you are
going to try to be one of the top seeds
in the playoff picture, you shouldn't have any issue with
the Jets despite the fact they are divisional opponent. I mean,
they've traded away some of their talented players and so
even offensively, if you're Drake may like, you know, you
don't have Quinn.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Williams, you don't have Sauce Card anymore.
Speaker 6 (29:43):
You know, you don't have to worry about those those matchups,
So like the line's big for a reason. That's a
lot of points though, So I don't know that the
Patriots win by that much. But I do think this
is just as big of a proving point for Aaron
Glenn to try to knock off one of the top
teams and roofed ownership and Whatdye Johnson that he is
the right guy for the job. I think it's equally
(30:04):
as important for the Patriots not to stumble. We've seen,
I mean, this has been a year where we've seen,
you know, the Green Bay Packers for example, where we thought,
you know, they were a team that was rolling. Carolina
goes into their house and beats them, and not necessarily
in a high scoring affair either. You know, we've had
a number of surprises. You look at earlier this season,
Pat's got knocked off by the Raiders, right, I mean,
(30:26):
now we look at where the Raiders are at.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
So you start kind of combing.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
Through the various matchups and games and some of the surprises,
like I don't think the Dolphins we're gonna, you know.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Take the bills of the woodshed like that did last week.
Speaker 6 (30:38):
Like this is one of those games where I don't
I don't take anything for granted in the NFL on
any given Sunday or apparently Thursday NW too, despite what
John Gruden wants. You know, any team can beat any team,
So to me, it's a proving moment too for the
Pats if you are as good as we think you are, Like,
this shouldn't be that close, you know this, this really
shouldn't be an issue.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
It's just interesting.
Speaker 7 (30:58):
The Bills and the Cowboys are the only two teams
that that really had convincing winning margins against the Jets. Otherwise,
they literally are right there to win the game and
every game they've they've played this year.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
If the Jets win this game, Mike Gravel should be fired. No, okay,
let's not go that, get Williams.
Speaker 7 (31:23):
No, that's very true, and that does make a very
big difference. That is true. But I feel, I mean,
I don't know that. I mean, I watched the way
they played last weekend. Man, it looks like a team
that wants to win it. But but there's three phases
(31:45):
to every game. You can't say that, like it's like,
that's like you can't include that.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
The Jets had one hundred and sixt nine yards of
total offense I get.
Speaker 7 (31:53):
It, but that has nothing to do with the defensive.
Y'all just brought up two defenders, not their offense. I'm
not saying they're a world beating team. I'm not saying
they're heading for the super Bowl, but I will say,
can they continue to be competitive? And can they win
a game as big as this one? This is clearly
their biggest game and in three weeks.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Rabel is a defensive guy. Aaron Glenn's a defensive guy.
Why are you siding with a gn here because he's black?
Speaker 6 (32:22):
Okay, there you go, all right, solve that.
Speaker 7 (32:26):
That's so stupid, Like I just gave you what you thought.
That's not I'm not siding with anybody you're signing.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
We get it, we get it.
Speaker 7 (32:34):
No, Actually, I mean if I'm saded with anybody, top.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Gun var top Gunham, Oh yeah, top gunn.
Speaker 7 (32:40):
I would I would side with with Grabes because he's
a linebacker and he's a big ten linebacker and he
played for my team.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
I was a fan of them.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Do you top gun or do you fish bump like
guys like Brad top guy?
Speaker 2 (32:54):
They got something way cooler than that. Yeah, we die.
That's how white? You a fist? Bump.
Speaker 6 (33:02):
Well, you can't like a step up for the white guys.
That's like what that's like what dolphers do.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Adapt takes too long. You gotta get it, not if
you know what you're doing. Well, a little dap up
on the show each week, experts, come.
Speaker 7 (33:23):
Come, let me show you the soul brother. The soul
brother hand goes like this, right, you go, you get
na see you have already messed up. Right, you got
to keep the hand. Now, you got to keep the hand.
You can't teach you right, you got to keep that
whole dog.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
And then the thumb.
Speaker 7 (33:37):
Now you can't close your hand yet. You gotta squeeze
the thumb right, and then you come in. Then you
grab it right, and then you slide out and then yep,
yep yeah, and then you go back up again. Then
you go back up like like birds will come back down.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Then you do it again. He's like capable of adapting
at this age. Like I'm so happy to be here
for them. Let's say it out of here, Let's try
to get Let's try one more time. Let's see if
he's got it. I mean, it's it's a it's a
little uncomfortable, it's a little stiff. It's a little robotic.
He's always stiff, a little robotic, right, what is it
(34:15):
you're like holding the no no, no, yeah, yeah, So
you gotta look. That's how you tap someone up. Grab it,
then you gotta come back grab it. Then you go
back up again, you take it up, then you come
back down and bound. Then you done.
Speaker 7 (34:28):
And if you really bang with somebody, like if that's
really your guy, when you come back down, when you
come back down, when you come back down.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
With it, then you keep going. You snap that that bad,
you got snap that mad. But you're gonna just keep
going up and down for me? Like, Yo, how you
been mad? Youve been all right? Pop that? Now? When
do you use the hand sanitizer after?
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (34:53):
You know you can, you can clean your hand off.
I definitely am left eat up with it, though you
had Let me be the first to apologize for my people.
No worries, man, all right, it's all good. I just
I just show to Endure that I just showed him a.
Speaker 7 (35:12):
Secret, a very sacred uh, a very sacred thing that
that is very near and dear to to my culture
and to my people. I gave you the soul hen
and speaking of something else that's near and dear to us.
That original Louisiana hot sauce.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
We use that too.
Speaker 7 (35:29):
You know, it's a perfect balance of peppers, vinegar, and salt.
You use it on your wings, your nachos, your burgers,
even if it's clam chowder. For for Jonas, hit any
tailgate food with that bold hand grabbed the flavor of
the original Louisiana hot sauce. That's Louisiana hot.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Make sure you bought you too, toney man, Throw that
in some clam chowder and a bread bowl fire. I
had some lobster biscuit, hermosa. Stop. That sounds so good.
And let me tell you something. They lobstered that bisk up.
They put the whole thing in it, man, I said.
Speaker 7 (36:05):
I looked at him, I said, how much lobster do
y'all put in your lobster biscuits? Because you know they'll
get you there Like it looked like it's pureade lobster
in there. Like I don't want no puade lobster chunks.
I want them chunks. And I mean that thing came out,
it was just it was just coming up out of
there like a mountain damn chunks. I got loose on
(36:27):
them chunks, shoving them in my face. I enjoyed. My
yo was so good?
Speaker 2 (36:34):
All right.
Speaker 7 (36:37):
Anyway, I do think that this is this game tonight
does whole entertainment value because you have two first year
head coaches. One is clearly thriving and maybe making a
Coach of the Year campaign candidacy on what he's been
able to do in such a short period of time
in New England. But there is the idea that Aaron
(36:59):
Glenn is starting to turn this team around. Let's see
if he can put together three games. You know, it's
a one to no season. Always want to know can
he can he get that dub tonight and and that's
a I think that makes this And they're going to
New England, so it's this a hostile environment. It'll be tough,
but if you can get a win on the road
(37:20):
in the division, then that I think it ultimately has
to be the conversation of is he turning this team
around like you you or or maybe you can say
he has started to turn the team around, and you
don't have to debate it anymore. I mean, there's there's
value to this game.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Yeah, damn right it is.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
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Speaker 9 (38:25):
Time to find out what's left Towns Incredible. Here's the
left over?
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Who's back right on?
Speaker 9 (38:33):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (38:35):
Are you right back?
Speaker 4 (38:37):
Right?
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Right right?
Speaker 10 (38:39):
All the messages I got I missed you guys too,
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (38:44):
Probably, but you have to but listen, because of you
know how much people don't speak up. You have to
multiply those two people by like one hundred. So two
people said it, two hundred people thought it.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
You see what I'm saying. Okay, yeah, sure, that's great affirmation,
I guess, Yeah, okay, goads. Anyways, let's go.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
Let's go.
Speaker 10 (39:03):
Okay, So competition really one runs deep in a lot
of these players.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Jackson Dart is one of those true competitors.
Speaker 10 (39:09):
Let's listen to how he was raised and how it
affects even the little things in his life.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
It's kind of always how it's been.
Speaker 8 (39:17):
You know, my dad coached me really hard when I
was a kid, and it never mattered, you know, what
opponent I was playing, what game I was playing, you know,
even if it's just like ping pong in the basement,
like me and him would go at it. And you know,
I just I hate that losing feeling, regardless of anything.
Even if I was playing pick a ball, you know,
and I lose, that's going to ruin my whole day.
(39:39):
So yeah, I just think that that's just something that's
kind of.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Just been instilled for me in a family aspects since
I was young.
Speaker 10 (39:47):
Very do you guys agree that that it has to
do with how you're raised?
Speaker 7 (39:52):
H I think everything has to do with how you're raised.
You know that you set a tone or you know
you you put the framework in place, or you don't.
Some some some people have to accept the challenge of
trying to figure it out because they don't have the
structure and they don't have that guidance of a debt
(40:12):
as it applies to this one that maybe either be
into sports or is even around. But yeah, I think
I think everything like has to do with how you're raised.
You're going to get that influence from somewhere. If you're
going to be competitive, you can have it in you
to be competitive.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Is it really such a thing as being too competitive?
Speaker 4 (40:31):
Though?
Speaker 2 (40:31):
No, I don't think so. Well, I think there is.
Speaker 6 (40:34):
There's a couple of thoughts on that you got to
be able to have a short term memory though, especially
as a quarterback, because when you're too competitive about it,
you a lot of times trying to harp on the
mistakes and you try to make sure you don't make
those mistakes again.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
So that's one aspect of it. I think the other
thing is if you get too emotional about defeat, then
you don't learn from it.
Speaker 6 (40:54):
Like at some point you got to sit back and
learn where your mistakes were, why you lost, and then
learn from that and move on. So that's the tough
part is like you don't ever want to lose, but
you also have to understand when you lose how to
respond to that. And it's it's hard to do at
the NFL level because you lose a lot more in
the NFL than you do in college.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
That's why I'm bad at gambling too competitive.
Speaker 7 (41:15):
Well, you lose a lot more in life than you
you win in theory, so you're supposed to be able
to take the lessons and apply it to to winning,
so that the winds.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Really matter when you win in life, you know, with
the gambling money. I don't know, but I like being
ultra competitive. I cry when I lose. This is what
it is, really. Oh yeah, and I want to fight
and I break remotes and I'll slam
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Albert Brier was really about to be a hater abe,
Good morning. I was really about to hate on you.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
You guys got me fired up like a little poison
to get you going up there.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yeah that's right. Yeah, let's go, Albert. How you feeling, man,
How you doing? How's everything going? I'm good, I'm good.
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I'm good.
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How you guys doing?
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Not too bad?
Speaker 6 (02:00):
You know, I'm trying to figure out what's gonna have
with the giants?
Speaker 5 (02:03):
Man?
Speaker 6 (02:04):
Was that unexpected for you? Did you get the sense
that that may happen in seasoning and it's just gonna
be dable? I think most people's question is why not
Joe Shane as well.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
Yeah, well, let's start with like why now I think
it is, like, you know.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
You'd be right to think this is out of character
for the Giants. This isn't generally the way they operate.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
But you know, I think it was just kind of
like the repeat of a.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Lot of different things.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
And so, you know, you start with the fact that.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
They're two and eight for the third straight year, which
when somebody there told me that, I was a little
taken aback, like, wow, I didn't realize.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
That was the case.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
They haven't won consecutive games in almost two years.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
And then you look at kind.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Of a couple of things that happened this year. They
have a big win on the Chargers. The next week,
they they lose to the Saints.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
In New Orleans.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
They have a big win over the Eagles, and then
they then come to the blown lead in Denver, and
then that bloone lead in Denver is followed by another
big blown lead in Chicago this weekend, and so you know,
I think it's just like a pattern of things over
and over and over again, and it's this just isn't
getting better. So you know, this gives them an opportunity to,
(03:14):
you know, really do their research out in the open
and start their search. Now they're gonna look at Mike
Kaska as as as a potential head coaching candidate. You know,
Casca is somebody who's got who played in the league,
who's got you know, the Andy Reids stamp of approval, and.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
You know, and and and and it's.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Really well respected. I had, you know, did well in
interviews when he's had the chance to interview for ed
coaching jobs too.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
And then as far as keeping Joe Shane, I mean,
I I don't know that.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Anything's set in stone yet. I think that the big
thing for them now is he's done a lot to
modernize their operation.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
They were really old school, and he's done a lot
to sort of.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Change where they're at and you know, bring everybody together.
They're under one system over the last four years. So
I don't think they just wanted to throw all of
the progress they're out right away and didn't see the
need to do that right now.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
So Hilly the head coaching search and we'll see which
way that goes.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
You know, we've seen cases in the past where the
general manager made it through an initial firing and didn't
make it through the end so I'm not saying anything's impossible,
but for now, Jolie, the effort to go find the
next head coach.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Now, one are the chances that somebody who currently is
the head coach in Chapel Hill would potentially be on
the list of candidates, Like I think.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Bill would walk on hot coals to get that job.
I just I don't know that the Giants will do it.
I mean, if this had been ten years ago, yeah,
I could see that.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
He's seventy three years old and.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Like things haven't gone good of late. You know, I
think one of the biggest problems he's had over the
last five years has been his ability to fill out
of staff. That was one thing he was incredible at,
like when they were really.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Rolling in New England.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
His ability to develop people, players, coaches, you know, front
office people that like machine kept churning and chearning and
churning over his twenty years and.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
Over his first twenty years New England.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
And really slowed down at the end. And so you know,
I I'm rooting for it. You know, Jonas, that would
be great, That'd be an awesome story. You know, like
let's get Bill Belichick or Lane Kiff into New York Like,
that would be fun to see.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
There those guys there.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
I just don't know that it's the fit for what
the Giants need right now.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Lane Kiffin would be a vibe in New York.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Uh, that would be fun. That's not really like and
you got the connection.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
To Jackson Dart.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
But I I just I that generally hasn't been the
sort of way the Giants go. But I mean I
think that it's on them now, and to their credit,
they are going to go into this with a really
open mind. That is on them now to rethink a
bunch of things because you look at the track record now.
The last time they successfully hired a head coach had
a successful head coaching higher with two thousand and four
(06:08):
with Tom Coughlin. So it's been almost it's been over
twenty years since they've got one of these.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Right, Abe.
Speaker 7 (06:15):
I wanted to ask you about Ben Johnson. I mean,
you guys wrote about it the three Stages of Winning
and just how he has has really kind of worked
with or I guess team building more so than I
guess winning. But it just seems as though at six
and three, his impact on this Beers team has been outstanding.
(06:42):
What's the you know, what's the ceiling for them this season?
And from your estimation, I mean.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Maybe you get in the playoffs seeing and scratch out
a win. Like I don't know, I don't know that
there's much beyond that, but I think you've certainly created
a foundation for the future now. And Gale is playing better.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
Too, you know.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
That's the other thing is like I think what's impressive
about it is like they really got to the early
parts of the season with Caleb being pretty inconsistent and
like going through it, and like now it's starting to
feel like they're coming out the other side from a
quarterback development standpoint.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Not that like he's a superstar, but.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Oh no, you know.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
We're good.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Good West lost it all right, So I just walked
outside for a second.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
But I wanted to get some fresh air. I appreciate that.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Yeah, yeah, so, I mean, but Kayala has made some
huge plays the last couple of weeks, the Throat of
Love one to to beat the to beat the Bengals
in Cincinnati, and then you know, two big runs to
beat the Giants last week. So you know, I think
that piece of it, like that you're seeing Caleb like
come along as their winning is a great time for
(07:59):
where they're going.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
And you know, certainly I think.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Like their ability to build along the line, to scrimmage
over the last couple of off seasons, paying.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Off to.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
Hey, Albert, why are you getting shippy with some guy
on X last night?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Over at Action in the Northern Illinois game?
Speaker 5 (08:16):
Oh yeah, that was fun? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Well, I mean, I I I live in Massachusetts or
state University is the University of Massachusetts, and so like
I don't know, every so often I'll turn on some
Action and I honestly did not even know until last
night that Hugh mass is now a full member of
the of the MAC, which I guess like the regional
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thing with conferences.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Has been out the window.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
I don't think.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
I don't think I live in Mid America, but the
State University here's in the Mid America Conference. So uh yeah,
that was that was really ugly. They're really really bad,
I mean, and I turned on the game thinking, like,
you know, because I've have friends that went to you Mats,
So like I started turning.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
On the game like all right, like I'm going to
come out of this.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
As some material to just shove in their face, you
know what I mean? And you know, but I thought,
like going in, I'm like, in order to Illinois is
generally like really really like I mean historically it's been
like a really good NAC team, right like over the
last twenty twenty five years.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
Yeah, it's pretty good, all right, Like so they're getting
you know.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
They're getting the crap beating out of them by a
good MAC team. Then I look down on the score
bug and look at look at the record, and this
is a pretty down year.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
For North Arolina.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Yeah, so yeah, all the way around. I mean, I
I thought there was like some unintentional comedy in the game.
It was that was something else. But yeah, I didn't expect.
I didn't expect to get like, you know, shots.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
Fire back on the on the maction.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
But but but there, right there, I was in the
ring on a Monday night.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Not much on the home field advantage front either.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Right yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I was. Yeah, so again,
like I didn't expect to be fighting one of those
battles on a Wednesday night, But there I was.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Alber Breer with us here on Fox Sports Radio, senior
NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the MMQB.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
How's this whole thing with aj.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Brown going to play out because it just feels like, look,
if you look at the offense, and we were talking
about it earlier, Saquon Barkley is having a way down year.
Everybody's having a down year, yet he's the only one
that's complaining again like he was last year.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Yeah, I think this is sort of like what you
get at that position sometimes is And look, I do
have some sympathy for it because it's like he is
a hyper competitive guy and like and I think you
even see this with quarterbacks and times too, Like Brady
was this way at the end of New England. You
can't expect a guy to be like.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
Uber competitive when it comes.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
To team accomplishment and then not be as competitive about
his own personal performance.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Right, So, but the.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Fact that the guy, the fact that the guy is
like upset that he's not you know, he's not able
to put up the same sort of numbers that he's
used to, or the offense isn't performing at the level
he's become accustomed to, Like I do, I don't think
that's the worst thing.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
In the world.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
I think the problem is that like it keeps happening
when they're winning, and it was happening even last year
when they were pursuing and winning a Super Bowl, you know, And.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
So it's just one of the things.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
You have to consider, where's where's your breaking point and
when does it become When does it get to the
point where the where the problems that way the talent
And I'm not sure that we're there yet. And they
didn't ever consider trading him in season because the spot
they're in to go and pursue a championship now, another
championship now. But I certainly think it becomes a discussion
(11:49):
point in the off season. And the interesting thing about
these sorts of things is obviously all the other teams,
the thirty one other teams see this, Well, there's another
team that wants him, like the Eagles don't need to
shop them like that. That team's going to make that
phone call, you know, when you get to when you.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
Get to February and March. So I certainly think that,
you know, if they.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Don't win another championship, this is something we'll be revisiting
in the off season and we'll see what happens.
Speaker 7 (12:16):
Albert Ken are the Colts for real? I know that
that's probably cliche at this point or redundant, whatever it
may be.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
But they have the Chiefs coming up.
Speaker 7 (12:29):
I know you've written about or someone wrote about the
Chiefs still being the best team in the AFC, the
Colts get an opportunity to lockhorns with them. How much
does this provide to the conversation of this is this
for real what we're seeing in Indy?
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (12:49):
I think, you know, I like, like I do think
like Indianapolis has got a pretty complete roster. Is like
you don't look at anything as like, yeah, like that's
that's something that's going to sink them when he gets
to January, like in any in any one area.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
The one thing where I think they've shown.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Some cracks the last couple of weeks against Pittsburgh and
then against Atlanta is like when.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
The game isn't played on their terms.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
They can struggle a little bit.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
And to their credit, like I think against.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Atlanta they were able to reel it back in and
really kind of load back up behind Jonathan Taylor.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
But I think what you see is, you.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Know, when they're not controlling the pace of the game
or when they have to play from behind, the offensive
line just doesn't look the same. And that's I mean
it was. It's been a little shocking to see it
the last couple of weeks, the way that the way
that that that Jones has been hit, the way he's
been sacked by both Pittsburgh.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
And Atlanta, and then it just wasn't happening.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
That way earlier in the year, and.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
That offensive line was such a strength, you know. I
think it's sort of indicative too of.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Like what happens again when you're when you're able to
control the game with Jonathan Taylor and you're never in
second and fifteen and you're never in you know, third
and nine. It's a completely different thing, you know, than
than when all of a sudden you are in those
situations with your offensive line.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
So that would be the.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
One area I would look at as like, okay, like
is there an offensive line issue? And I certainly want
it comes think when it comes time to play the Chiefs,
like the Chiefs are going to be able to challenge
them in that area because of what they bring to
the table with Chris Jones and George Carlofts and all
the schematic stuff that THEI segno is able to do.
Speaker 6 (14:40):
Albert, I want to talk to you about just the
Bill's offense.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
I've struggled.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
We saw an article or earlier this week where someone throughout
the idea or I guess the question is Sean McDermott
about Brian Dable after getting fired immediately joined the Bill staff,
which seems a little bit ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I don't know if that's ever happened quite like that before.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
I just take us through kind of I don't know,
maybe the pressure on Joe Brady and then is that
Has that ever happened before as a head coach? Ever
gotten fired and immediately joined another team?
Speaker 5 (15:12):
Yeah, it happened last year.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Robert Sala went to lafloor staff.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
And immediately after one.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
It was very soon. Yeah, I don't know if it
was immediate, but it was.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
I don't think it was immediate. I think it was
a few weeks. But like that wasn't like.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
I mean, that could be awkward, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Like in last year the Packers had a first year
defensive coordinator. So what Lafleur did with Sala was he
took him and he put him on the offensive staff
and he said, okay, like here is a guy who
can see things, you know, through a defensive lens.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
That can help you guys, just you know, as.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Far as like trouble shooting, different things and all of that,
which I you're seeing more and more of that now
across the NFL, where more guys are in those sorts
of roles.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
It would be I think a.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Little unusual when you've gotten offensive coordinator who now has
his experience as Joe Brady is if like, oh yeah,
like we're going to come in and bring in this
guy to to give you a hand, you know what
I mean, Like I I'm not sure how that would
work exactly, but.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
You know, I think the interesting thing.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
About it is, you know, to me, Brady, is how
week tweak these things become too. You know, like where
the Bills had really built some momentum, like they came
out of their by they absolutely annihilated the Panthers, and
then they come back and they beat the Chiefs right
in week nine, and now all of a sudden, the ship's.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
Righted and then they just have like this weird.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Like almost like puke all over your shoes game against
the Dolphins. And we're talking big picture problems again. So
I you know, I don't know, I'd like to see
like like like another week at least of them looking
that way before I start like sounding the alarm. You know,
I think you're entitled to a bad week that happens
(17:01):
in the NFL, and I wasn't expecting it to have
it in that fashion. But you know, like I think,
you know Josh Allen and that offense had looked pretty
good the two weeks prior to what happened in Miami.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Is there any long term concern about the Packers and
sort of how they've looked so, I know, it's just
been a couple of years since, but it feels like
maybe people are starting to question Matt Lafleur a little
bit more publicly, like what do you make of all that?
Speaker 5 (17:31):
Well?
Speaker 4 (17:31):
I think I think there are a couple of reasons
why that's happened. Number one, they didn't extend him, you know,
in the off season. I think he has two years
left on his deal. And there was a transition of
power in Green Bay. And for those who don't know,
the team president in Green Bay is is he's not
the owner, but he almost has the power of being
(17:52):
the owner.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
Right So, Mark Murphy had been.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
There forever he had hired the floor at policy became
the president there at the end of and I think
anytime there's that sort of transition of power, you know
there're gonna be some questions, okay, like does a new
boss want to bring in his own guys, So that's
a natural question. Then they don't extend him, and you know,
then they go all in on this current group. Now
(18:14):
they've already paid Jordan Love, of course, but then they
they make the move for Michael Parsons, which really is
implicitly saying like we believe like we're in a championship
window right now, and.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
You know, so that puts pressure on everybody.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
And when you have a night like they had the
other night where the defense looks just.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
Fine, like the investment in Parsons look.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Face working out, and.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
You know the offense can't get out of its own.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Way with your fifty five million dollar quarterback, then you
know the questions are going to be answered on the
coaching staff, especially when the head coaches on the offensive
side of the ball. Now, I still think they're behind
Matt and I think.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
They'll be they'll be okay, but they have been very.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Scattershot on the on offense over the course of this year,
and they've struggled to find consistency. I think one thing
that hurt them the other night Tucker Craft had kind
of grown into becoming a focal point for them offensively.
He's obviously down for the year now, and the offensive line,
you know, has I think had some real issues dealing
(19:16):
with the Eagles front. Which you know, if you have
that sort of issue with that sort of front, you're
going to see more of those in the playoffs. And
so could that be a long term concern, you know,
just as far as where they go when we get
to January, it could be, which you know, again, like
if they're wanting done in the playoffs, you'd probably hear
more of these big picture questions.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
All right, ab moment of truth, Yeah, true, Yeah, here
we go. It's a big one.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Yeah, Ohio State UCLA, Oh go to the shoe.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Yeah. And do you believe that at.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
The end of that big matchup this Saturday night, that
Ohio State will have won the game by more than
thirty two and a half points?
Speaker 8 (19:57):
Wow?
Speaker 5 (19:58):
Thirty two and a half That is a big line.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Oh see, I'm thinking something like thirty eight to seven.
The last time Nico was there is helmet got split
in half.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
He played alright in that game.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Oh what Nico?
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Oh yeah, he was fine in that game. He was fine.
I mean, it's not like they kicked him out. They
wanted him back, right, Like. Yeah, I would say, dude,
I had Purdue covering last week.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
No, I didn't.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
I think I'd messed this up a couple of weeks
in a row. So I would say, take Ucla in
the points.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Wow, Okay, yeah, I just think we were saying here, Albert, no,
last week, no.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
Last week. So last week.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
What screwed me up last week was like our coach
is legitimately treated that like a scrimmage. That's a Purdue team.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
By the way, it.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Took Michigan into deep water.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
But that's neither here.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Okay, but Purdue, like there was there were some there
were some interesting substitution patterns in that Purdue game. If
you really want ship like, it was legitimately being treated
like a scrimmage. And I'm a little afraid of that
happening again. If I'm betting on this, you know what,
screw it, I'll take the buck Eyes.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Yeah yeah, there.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
Screw it. Screw it.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
I'll take the buck Eyes to cover where it's been
doing that this weekend, Brady, we're.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Covering your arch nemesis. We'll be at Wrigley for uh nice.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
Nice. I actually thought I actually thought about going last year.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
I don't know how that is.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
For a football game. They do they still have to
go in only one direction?
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Is that still the way it is?
Speaker 2 (21:32):
I don't know. That's a good question.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
I actually had the same question, and that has not
been answered yet. So I'm pretty sure that it was
a few years ago, right, like, yeah, they can figure
it a way of doing it now where I believe
they go both directions. So okay, unless that, unless I'm
wrong in assuming that I'll be updated here shortly.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
We'll keep me posted on that.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Yeah, I'm sure you're really curious what a Michigan does
this week, Albert. We appreciate it as always. Get them
on X Atrier. He is the senior NFL reporter lead
content strategist at the m MPB at a Thursday tradition
here on the show.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Thanks Aby, All right, Yeah, that was.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
I remember that, And they didn't even think that through
when they put the first game in Wrigley, Like, hey,
you know there's not enough room here because the stadium's
not big, and so they had to just go in
one direction. For an actual football game, like an actual
regular season game, they had to go in one direction.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
So pretty old school. But dang, I think they've gotten
that old thing out there. Dang, Dang, dang Tang, what
a place. I'm jealous Tang.
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Speaker 2 (22:50):
All right? Coming up next year? Was he the dang counter?
Hopefully I caught up, tang damn.
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It is a Thursday Night, which means the kickoff of
Week eleven in the NFL coming up later on tonight,
and boy, oh boy, do we have a good one
for you. It's the Awful Jets at the Surprising Patriots
(26:02):
with New England A twelve and a half point favorite,
as that game will be featured on Amazon Prime in
all its glory later on tonight. The Patriots, I think,
are rolling out a new New Jersey combination as well too.
I've seen glimpses of it. It's awful. They should go back.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
They should go back to the Patenteel looks man looks more,
New age looks cool.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
How many Jets fans do you think when Brady and
Belichick finally left, were like, thank god, now now we
can get a shot, Like now we can and then
here we are just a few years later, and it's
the same old thing.
Speaker 6 (26:40):
If you're a Jets fan, can you really focus on
any other team when your team struggles the way it does.
Speaker 7 (26:46):
They're on a two game winning streak, that's true, I
mean that's done. Maybe they've started to turn turn the
tide a little bit. I feel like that's what makes
this game interesting to me, because of the hatred that
they harbor for one another. I still think that that's
a part of it. It's interesting because if I if
(27:07):
I recall it, does that did Glenn play for the
Jets when when Mike was in He might have been
in Pittsburgh, but I would assume maybe they they went
against each other as Jets and Patriots as players Vrabel
and Glenn, But anyway, I just I think this is.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
A game that will.
Speaker 7 (27:32):
Go a long way for New England and knocking knocking
the Jets off of their two game high horse. You know,
you start to feel like you're gaining momentum. And I've
been there before. I remember we went oh and five
with Marty our first year, and then that that sixth
game against Carolina we found the way to win it,
(27:53):
and then we rattled off five games straight. You start
to have this sense of belief, and the momentum makes
practices better, you know, that makes the relationships kind of
come together better.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Maybe one year, two thousand and one, one year, yeah, OK,
one year. It just to me.
Speaker 7 (28:14):
This is obviously it being a divisional game, the Patriots
can prove a lot by by doing what they need
to do and taking care of them. But for the Jets,
it's a tremendously, tremendously big game because this goes further
into the bag of belief for them. If they're able
to have a good showing and possibly win this game
(28:36):
tonight on a national stage, it could mark or signify
the changes here, like the change is happening. Maybe culture
is changing in New York.
Speaker 6 (28:50):
Yeah, it would definitely go a long way in building
I guess confidence in Aaron Glenn and what this team
has been, considering the O and seventh Star, considering you know,
you'd like to see your team playing better in the
second half the season the first half and I think
you know, a couple of wins will showcase that. Now, granted,
tight games honestly probably could have gone either way, especially
(29:15):
the Bengals game the way that whole thing worked out,
But this is a new challenge.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
And then this is more to me.
Speaker 6 (29:21):
If like you're the Patriots and you're for real and
you are going to win the division, if you are
going to try to be one of the top seeds
in the playoff picture, you shouldn't have any issue with
the Jets despite the fact they are divisional opponent. I mean,
they've traded away some of their talented players and so
even offensively, if you're Drake may like, you know, you
don't have Quinn.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Williams, you don't have Sauce Card anymore.
Speaker 6 (29:43):
You know, you don't have to worry about those those matchups,
So like the line's big for a reason. That's a
lot of points though, So I don't know that the
Patriots win by that much. But I do think this
is just as big of a proving point for Aaron
Glenn to try to knock off one of the top
teams and roofed ownership and Whatdye Johnson that he is
the right guy for the job. I think it's equally
(30:04):
as important for the Patriots not to stumble. We've seen,
I mean, this has been a year where we've seen,
you know, the Green Bay Packers for example, where we thought,
you know, they were a team that was rolling. Carolina
goes into their house and beats them, and not necessarily
in a high scoring affair either. You know, we've had
a number of surprises. You look at earlier this season,
Pat's got knocked off by the Raiders, right, I mean,
(30:26):
now we look at where the Raiders are at.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
So you start kind of combing.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
Through the various matchups and games and some of the surprises,
like I don't think the Dolphins we're gonna, you know.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Take the bills of the woodshed like that did last week.
Speaker 6 (30:38):
Like this is one of those games where I don't
I don't take anything for granted in the NFL on
any given Sunday or apparently Thursday NW too, despite what
John Gruden wants. You know, any team can beat any team,
So to me, it's a proving moment too for the
Pats if you are as good as we think you are, Like,
this shouldn't be that close, you know this, this really
shouldn't be an issue.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
It's just interesting.
Speaker 7 (30:58):
The Bills and the Cowboys are the only two teams
that that really had convincing winning margins against the Jets. Otherwise,
they literally are right there to win the game and
every game they've they've played this year.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
If the Jets win this game, Mike Gravel should be fired. No, okay,
let's not go that, get Williams.
Speaker 7 (31:23):
No, that's very true, and that does make a very
big difference. That is true. But I feel, I mean,
I don't know that. I mean, I watched the way
they played last weekend. Man, it looks like a team
that wants to win it. But but there's three phases
(31:45):
to every game. You can't say that, like it's like,
that's like you can't include that.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
The Jets had one hundred and sixt nine yards of
total offense I get.
Speaker 7 (31:53):
It, but that has nothing to do with the defensive.
Y'all just brought up two defenders, not their offense. I'm
not saying they're a world beating team. I'm not saying
they're heading for the super Bowl, but I will say,
can they continue to be competitive? And can they win
a game as big as this one? This is clearly
their biggest game and in three weeks.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Rabel is a defensive guy. Aaron Glenn's a defensive guy.
Why are you siding with a gn here because he's black?
Speaker 6 (32:22):
Okay, there you go, all right, solve that.
Speaker 7 (32:26):
That's so stupid, Like I just gave you what you thought.
That's not I'm not siding with anybody you're signing.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
We get it, we get it.
Speaker 7 (32:34):
No, Actually, I mean if I'm saded with anybody, top.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Gun var top Gunham, Oh yeah, top gunn.
Speaker 7 (32:40):
I would I would side with with Grabes because he's
a linebacker and he's a big ten linebacker and he
played for my team.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
I was a fan of them.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Do you top gun or do you fish bump like
guys like Brad top guy?
Speaker 2 (32:54):
They got something way cooler than that. Yeah, we die.
That's how white? You a fist? Bump.
Speaker 6 (33:02):
Well, you can't like a step up for the white guys.
That's like what that's like what dolphers do.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Adapt takes too long. You gotta get it, not if
you know what you're doing. Well, a little dap up
on the show each week, experts, come.
Speaker 7 (33:23):
Come, let me show you the soul brother. The soul
brother hand goes like this, right, you go, you get
na see you have already messed up. Right, you got
to keep the hand. Now, you got to keep the hand.
You can't teach you right, you got to keep that
whole dog.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
And then the thumb.
Speaker 7 (33:37):
Now you can't close your hand yet. You gotta squeeze
the thumb right, and then you come in. Then you
grab it right, and then you slide out and then yep,
yep yeah, and then you go back up again. Then
you go back up like like birds will come back down.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Then you do it again. He's like capable of adapting
at this age. Like I'm so happy to be here
for them. Let's say it out of here, Let's try
to get Let's try one more time. Let's see if
he's got it. I mean, it's it's a it's a
little uncomfortable, it's a little stiff. It's a little robotic.
He's always stiff, a little robotic, right, what is it
(34:15):
you're like holding the no no, no, yeah, yeah, So
you gotta look. That's how you tap someone up. Grab it,
then you gotta come back grab it. Then you go
back up again, you take it up, then you come
back down and bound. Then you done.
Speaker 7 (34:28):
And if you really bang with somebody, like if that's
really your guy, when you come back down, when you
come back down, when you come back down.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
With it, then you keep going. You snap that that bad,
you got snap that mad. But you're gonna just keep
going up and down for me? Like, Yo, how you
been mad? Youve been all right? Pop that? Now? When
do you use the hand sanitizer after?
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (34:53):
You know you can, you can clean your hand off.
I definitely am left eat up with it, though you
had Let me be the first to apologize for my people.
No worries, man, all right, it's all good. I just
I just show to Endure that I just showed him a.
Speaker 7 (35:12):
Secret, a very sacred uh, a very sacred thing that
that is very near and dear to to my culture
and to my people. I gave you the soul hen
and speaking of something else that's near and dear to us.
That original Louisiana hot sauce.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
We use that too.
Speaker 7 (35:29):
You know, it's a perfect balance of peppers, vinegar, and salt.
You use it on your wings, your nachos, your burgers,
even if it's clam chowder. For for Jonas, hit any
tailgate food with that bold hand grabbed the flavor of
the original Louisiana hot sauce. That's Louisiana hot.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Make sure you bought you too, toney man, Throw that
in some clam chowder and a bread bowl fire. I
had some lobster biscuit, hermosa. Stop. That sounds so good.
And let me tell you something. They lobstered that bisk up.
They put the whole thing in it, man, I said.
Speaker 7 (36:05):
I looked at him, I said, how much lobster do
y'all put in your lobster biscuits? Because you know they'll
get you there Like it looked like it's pureade lobster
in there. Like I don't want no puade lobster chunks.
I want them chunks. And I mean that thing came out,
it was just it was just coming up out of
there like a mountain damn chunks. I got loose on
(36:27):
them chunks, shoving them in my face. I enjoyed. My
yo was so good?
Speaker 2 (36:34):
All right.
Speaker 7 (36:37):
Anyway, I do think that this is this game tonight
does whole entertainment value because you have two first year
head coaches. One is clearly thriving and maybe making a
Coach of the Year campaign candidacy on what he's been
able to do in such a short period of time
in New England. But there is the idea that Aaron
(36:59):
Glenn is starting to turn this team around. Let's see
if he can put together three games. You know, it's
a one to no season. Always want to know can
he can he get that dub tonight and and that's
a I think that makes this And they're going to
New England, so it's this a hostile environment. It'll be tough,
but if you can get a win on the road
(37:20):
in the division, then that I think it ultimately has
to be the conversation of is he turning this team
around like you you or or maybe you can say
he has started to turn the team around, and you
don't have to debate it anymore. I mean, there's there's
value to this game.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Yeah, damn right it is.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
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Speaker 9 (38:25):
Time to find out what's left Towns Incredible. Here's the
left over?
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Who's back right on?
Speaker 9 (38:33):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (38:35):
Are you right back?
Speaker 4 (38:37):
Right?
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Right right?
Speaker 10 (38:39):
All the messages I got I missed you guys too,
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (38:44):
Probably, but you have to but listen, because of you
know how much people don't speak up. You have to
multiply those two people by like one hundred. So two
people said it, two hundred people thought it.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
You see what I'm saying. Okay, yeah, sure, that's great affirmation,
I guess, Yeah, okay, goads. Anyways, let's go.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
Let's go.
Speaker 10 (39:03):
Okay, So competition really one runs deep in a lot
of these players.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Jackson Dart is one of those true competitors.
Speaker 10 (39:09):
Let's listen to how he was raised and how it
affects even the little things in his life.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
It's kind of always how it's been.
Speaker 8 (39:17):
You know, my dad coached me really hard when I
was a kid, and it never mattered, you know, what
opponent I was playing, what game I was playing, you know,
even if it's just like ping pong in the basement,
like me and him would go at it. And you know,
I just I hate that losing feeling, regardless of anything.
Even if I was playing pick a ball, you know,
and I lose, that's going to ruin my whole day.
(39:39):
So yeah, I just think that that's just something that's
kind of.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Just been instilled for me in a family aspects since
I was young.
Speaker 10 (39:47):
Very do you guys agree that that it has to
do with how you're raised?
Speaker 7 (39:52):
H I think everything has to do with how you're raised.
You know that you set a tone or you know
you you put the framework in place, or you don't.
Some some some people have to accept the challenge of
trying to figure it out because they don't have the
structure and they don't have that guidance of a debt
(40:12):
as it applies to this one that maybe either be
into sports or is even around. But yeah, I think
I think everything like has to do with how you're raised.
You're going to get that influence from somewhere. If you're
going to be competitive, you can have it in you
to be competitive.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Is it really such a thing as being too competitive?
Speaker 4 (40:31):
Though?
Speaker 2 (40:31):
No, I don't think so. Well, I think there is.
Speaker 6 (40:34):
There's a couple of thoughts on that you got to
be able to have a short term memory though, especially
as a quarterback, because when you're too competitive about it,
you a lot of times trying to harp on the
mistakes and you try to make sure you don't make
those mistakes again.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
So that's one aspect of it. I think the other
thing is if you get too emotional about defeat, then
you don't learn from it.
Speaker 6 (40:54):
Like at some point you got to sit back and
learn where your mistakes were, why you lost, and then
learn from that and move on. So that's the tough
part is like you don't ever want to lose, but
you also have to understand when you lose how to
respond to that. And it's it's hard to do at
the NFL level because you lose a lot more in
the NFL than you do in college.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
That's why I'm bad at gambling too competitive.
Speaker 7 (41:15):
Well, you lose a lot more in life than you
you win in theory, so you're supposed to be able
to take the lessons and apply it to to winning,
so that the winds.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Really matter when you win in life, you know, with
the gambling money. I don't know, but I like being
ultra competitive. I cry when I lose. This is what
it is, really. Oh yeah, and I want to fight
and I break remotes and I'll slam
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