October 4, 2022 • 38 mins
Following the Niners win over the Rams on Monday Night Football, the NFC West is tied up at 2-2. Matt Rhule sticks with Baker Mayfield for now, but he may be eying one of the many openings in college football and controversy on the recap of the Prop Bet Monster.
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take another look at the NFC West. All right. Biggest
surprise of the NFC West for you guys early on
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in the season after last night's game, because we've got
everybody sitting in the division at two and two. We
talked about it earlier. Now San Francisco is a slight
favorite to win the division over the l A Rams.
Biggest surprise in the NFC West four games into the
season is what, Brady Quinn, they're all two and two too.
I don't know. I mean, I think Seattle, I think
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it's it's fair to say the seas two and two.
I don't know that anyone had high aspirations for them.
I said earlier, Gino Smith is completing is it's like
seventy of his pass us through four games. He's been
much better than I thought he would be. I think,
what's better than everyone. It's a great story. You know,
he's a guy I got to know a little bit
during my time with the Jets, and I think you
can see his growth the maturity as a player in person.
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So awesome to see that. Um, you know, Kyler Murray's
carrying the Cardinals right now to a two and two records.
I don't know that I saw it working out the
way it has, but seattle to me right now, I
think it's the biggest surprise. Yeah, I would say to Rams,
they're the biggest surprise to me because I wasn't I
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wasn't sure how good they would be, but I thought
that they would be much better than what they are. Like,
they don't even look like if I'm being honest, they
don't even look like a playoff team. Stafford look healthy.
They just don't look like a playoff team. Okay, I
just I mean, does he look healthy? I don't you know,
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I don't know. I just I just know he's turning
the ball over a lot, and I just know that
they're not dominant on defense like they they look passes
huh not working out. I just I would just say
the Rams are my biggest They're they're my biggest surprise.
You know, Jared gofton't look all that bad right now,
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Just saying just trying to, you know, let everybody know
that they can always come back home to know. He's
playing better football than Matt Stafford and has for you know,
I'll put it this with since they put Ben Johnson
as passing game coordinator and then they made him his
his OC, he has been better statistically than Matt Stafford.
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That's not an opinion, that's factual. Go back through like
the second half of last year, at least the last
five games, and then go go look at this year
so far, Jared Goff has been a better quarterback. Not
an opinion, that's just fact. Who's the worst quarterback in
the NFC West right now? Is it Stafford? Because I
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would say Garoppolos probably had ahead of Stafford right now
right now? Yeah, yeah, I think so. I think Stafford
is probably the worst quarterback in that division. Right now,
he's playing the worst. Yeah right now. Um, I did think.
I'll be honest with you, I continue to believe that
Arizona is going to turn this thing around and they're
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gonna get back on track. And you know, the win
at Carolina, and we could talk about what's going on
in Carolina coming up shortly, but the win at Carolina
was a big win for him. I maybe I just
have a blind spot, and I thought Cliff Kingsbury and
Kyler Murray were gonna be much better than they were
coming into this year. But it just it feels like
it's so hard for them to get on track and
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get a rhythm going. And even in that game against Carolina,
they were struggling at times and it didn't look good
early on. I don't know where I had this blind
spot with Arizona thinking oh, yeah, they're they're gonna win
the division. That was my pick and after four games, Um,
although everybody's tied, I do not feel confident in my
pick of the Arizona Cardinals. Would I would probably look
at San Francisco if I was going to reevaluate what
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I was looking at in that division. So there's there's
I mean, I told you when Jimmy Garoppolo has started
for the rest of the year, if I could pick
over again that so I would have picked I wouldn't
have picked the Rams, which I'll still hang with the
Rams because that was my pick. But yeah, I mean,
I I just I didn't. I needed to see something
from Trey Lance before we all of a sudden put
all our eggs in that basket. Jimmy Garoppolo last night
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talked about because he made mention of this, that trying
to get back into game shape, trying to get back
into rhythm. I know we talked about it last Monday,
that that there was some validity into that Brady Quin
as far as him getting back into the rhythm of
the offense and and playing shape and all that stuff.
Garoppolo talked about his performance afterwards. Yeah, I think every
week I'll just keep feeling better and better. You know,
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the shoulders just it's tough during the season to get
it right. But it's uh, you know, we got long
season ahead of us. Hopefully every week I'll get better
and better. So is he going to have to when
he says the shoulder, is it that he's gonna have
to go through certain like what warm ups things like
that to feel right, or is this just something that
it's going to take still some time to recover and
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and all of that to to try and get back
to anywhere close to a percent like he was last
year before the injury in the playoffs, like what he
had Searcher. Yeah, I mean, it's so it was an
abnormal off season for him. You know, he's rehabbing from
the surgery, so his focus is just to be able
to throw a football and not necessarily prepare his arm
and conditioning for a season. He didn't. He didn't go
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into this when he came back with San Francisco to
be the starter. He was going into a thinking like
he's gonna be the backup and you know, hopefully he'll
be ready when he has to go in there for
some spot duty. But you're anticipating being the guy only
when called upon, you know. But he at least that
was a snare going into it. Everything changes once you
become the guy, and it happens in the middle of
the season, and your entire offseason hasn't been preparing you
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to be the guy. So it's just it's it's a
different type of conditioning that his armam and and shoulder
is gonna have to go through in general, whether you're
just coming off the bench, being a backup and getting
used to the amount of reps you're taking through the
course of the week, which is the fact that in
his case, like he wasn't taking all those reps and
stuff in the off season, so his entire body is
still adjusting to that. It's it's it's gonna take a while,
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Like he's gonna go through some arms, some so baby,
some dead arm because he didn't experience that throughout the
off season during camp and and eventually it will come around,
but he probably won't feel back to is like himself
a hent until after the season, like heading into next year.
I just imagine where they would be if they traded
him or cut him, Like where would this team be
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with Trey Lance going down like that. That's why this
whole thing the way that it worked out, and seeing
Trey Lance get injured and then Jimmy Garoppolo comes back,
I mean, they basically returned the entire team that they
had last year that you can arguely argue should have
won that NFC title game. They basically returned. Everybody, Deebo,
Samuel came back. Boss is still there. Like all of
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these guys are back, and then you're able to bring
back the same starting quarterback from a year later, still
stomping them. He's awesome, man, he is awesome. Is he
the best all around player in the NFL as far
as gadget do everything? Best all around player in the league, Well,
people do a lot with Tarry Kill. I mean, yeah,
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there's other there's other players they put in positions like that,
like Wattle was used more like that last year too.
I don't know, it's possible. He's definitely as possible. Yeah,
I mean I'm sitting here listening going through my Rollo decks.
I mean that's definitely possible. Debo is the most diverse,
the most successfully diverse player. Yeah, I don't. I don't
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have a problem with it. By the way, their walk
out before the game with the boom box, Yeah, they
walk out and they're just like the whole time. It's
the way. It's one of the coolest things in the
NFL to se just oh yeah, it's like thugging bug Tom.
It's usually it's Debo and Trent Williams. But since Trent
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was hurt. It was just debo kind of this week.
They had the one coach holding it that like, I
don't know, it's like a strimp coach or somebody. It's
a gigantic Yeah, it's cool. I thought she was gonna
pull it up right now. I got to see this
so there. Why so what is it like a giant boombox?
They just put on their shoulder and then get out
there to get school days. Yeah, I mean that's yeah,
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Brady and I growing up in Ohio, that's what we did.
I don't know what you guys are doing in Pennsylvania,
but you know that's what we did. We wasn't doing that.
I actually got one of those as one of those
um like, do you do like the white elephant, you
know during Christmas time or whatever? I mean burn Like,
I mean, we're gonna let that is that what it's called? Yeah,
it is what it's called. But it is the first off,
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I don't know why it's called that. I'm just calling
it what it's called. That is what it's called, all right,
I'm looking at it right now, but we're just saying.
But anyway, I got one of those as a gift
for whoever ended up getting it, and then one of
my buddies got it, and so we ended up getting
him a vlor jumpsuit so he could walk around the
neighborhood with the boom box. By the way, White Elephant
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parties or lamb just this one, by the way. The
Lore outfits are the bomb. They're very comfortable. This one
actually got kind of lit. So what is that? There
was a time where I wore a kangle hat and
of the Lord sweatsuit with the same color Timberlin's as
the Lord sweatsuit. What a wrist band? Okay, I see
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what they are? They swaye They're not like it's a
like interesting almost like shiny, like like velvet almost. Yeah, yeah,
mixture of like velvet cotton. Can't wait to never wear that.
That's awesome. Look nice on one of those. You would
actually wear one knowing you, Yeah, I mean you get
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like an all black one. You see the way I dress.
I mean you said I just all black anything just black?
And what's drawing that? Brady? What are you trying to say?
This is twice in the same Yeah, what are we
doing here? Like I understand? Why do you have takes?
Jonas wearing right now? What color short is he wearing? Gray? Ye? Gray?
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What color? Hat? Black? Gond something black? One? I mean,
that's why that's why I'm least favorite is two pros
and a cup of Joe here on on fs are
by the way. But it was so dope. It was
the funniest junk ever. Um So, I don't know. I
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have to wait to confirm this with Petro's. But Pedro
said this on the air and we talked to him tomorrow.
But did you know that Sean McVeigh vapes? Did you
know that? Who cares? I'm just saying, like, I would
not expect that from a from a coach. Why not?
He's kind of like, how does he know that? Why
does he know that? And that's why he said it
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to me. He's like, you didn't know that? I was like, no,
he goes, yeah, Sean mcvape. I was like, what, I
didn't even know that was the thing. But I swear
at least said so we got to confirm with Petro's tomorrow.
But when you hear Sean McVeigh after the game, you go,
I can kind of see it. But he's got he's
got a rast be voice, like maybe you know, maybe
he's not you know, it's not people. I don't know
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what I'm saying. You know, maybe he's uh, you know,
got a lung duard or two in his past. You know,
there's there's that's attention of that. Yeah, you know, I'm
just saying, just throwing it out there. That was something
that that was brought to my attention, and you know,
maybe it's something we can address with Petros coming up
on the show tomorrow preview and ahead and then like
a little twenty four hour tease lung dard. Yeah, Hello,
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We have got the decision that has been made by
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very important decision because somebody is close to making a return,
and we will get into the bottom of it. You
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Brady Quinn, Jonas Knocks with you here live from the
entire act dot Com studios. Coming up later on this hour,
a little over twenty minutes from now we will get
to the bottom. There's a little bit of a debate,
potential controversy over something that took place during Monday Night
Football last night, So we'll have that for year again
a little over twenty minutes from now here on FS
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are So. One of the situations in the NFL that
just hasn't gone all that smooth is the early run
of Baker Mayfield and the Carolina Panthers UM and so,
Baker Mayfield and the Panthers have not been all that impressive.
There have been some issues, they have struggled on offense.
There's been some boo birds out, there's been all of
that stuff, and a lot of people pointing to Baker
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Mayfield and potentially could there be a quarterback change? Well
Is head coach Matt Rule was asked about the potential
of a quarterback change with Sam Donald potentially being ready
soon to come back from injury. Here was the Panthers
head coach. I think Baker's our quarterback. You know, we
have to we have to, you know, continue to find
ways to help him and then help help the other guys.
You know, Um, you know Sam's Sam's not cleared right now,
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you know, and um, you know, we're just gonna keep
trying to get better. So do people think that Baker
Mayfield is just gonna step right in with a with
a shortened off season after just getting to Carolina not
that long ago, and he was just gonna be off
and running and and be candidate. Man, just I think
Baker Mayfield is our story. Run that back, burto run
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that back. That's the first part. I think Baker's our quarterback.
You know, we have to, we have He's your guy.
And stater fu LaVar, No, Matt, That's that's why I'm laughing.
I'm laughing at this. Yeah, that's hold on. Here's the
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only thing I say is are they are they looking
for an uptick? When Donald's healthy and able to get back, Like,
didn't you already move on from him? Now you're going
to go back to him because you feel like Baker's
playing that bad. I would give this more time. I
feel like this is a move that would be a
mistake if you just pull the rug from out underneath them.
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It's not like he's been there that long in the
system that long. I think the biggest concern is he's
got more bad passes than any quarterback in the NFL,
And there might be something to that. You can go
back to his time in Cleveland, you know, and and
either his stature is longer motion. There's a few things
that play a role in that. But you know, also
it's not like he's been their singular issue on offense.
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I wouldn't put it all on him. I just think
it's gonna take some time for for him to be
able to feel comfortable and confident in the system they're running,
and the guy who's supposed to be the star on
their offense can't stay healthy. He's doing great, Christian McCaffrey's
doing great. He's doing let me just tremendous good. He's
got a big bank account and he's got really nice
stuff to go home too, So that is stuff. All
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of that is great for Christians. That's the type of guy,
by the way, well far you know. That's like I've
had this conversation with Jonas, but he's the type of
guy that backs into a spot because he can't wait
to drive home as fast as I'm sure. What do
you do that? Lamar? Yea? Sometimes I get back end
guy a military that a military thing. That's more of
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a I want to get the hell out of here things.
I gotta get out and go. Yeah, you always put
your put your back, put your rear in so you
can see what's coming your way. You know what I mean?
But I do. I do be on the hurry to
get home though for certain Yeah, and when I park park,
I want people to look at my ass. Just look
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look at the back of me, check out that backside,
just to get in as soon as possible, so I
don't I don't have time to do the whole back
and in thing on the way. I want to get
there as soon as possible. I hear you, man, hear yeah,
Like like I don't know if you know this, but
you know when I come in student, I always beat Jonas.
Jonas is always you know, cutting a little close. I
will always make sure I beat Jonas definitely. This pastime
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got me this Jonas comes in quick boy, comes in hot,
ready to go. I could tell you the time and
then the time and then the time. But Jonas Jonas
got with this last time because I told him I
was coming in. He knew. By the way, the best
part about Brady trying to make it to the studio
last time was him leaving me voice notes. Do you
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guys have lights on the cameras here for red lights?
Just ran another one and he kept updating me on
how many red lights he was blowing through. I think
I blew through three. Well, the problem was I I
literally talked to uh, the gentleman at Valet, so can
you leave this? And I think it was a quick
turnaround right like I was. It was like three hours
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four hours later, So I was like, can either leave
this up front? I was like, or can you just
make sure there's a note that someone can have it
brought out of this time? And so I go down,
No one's there and there's like no valet, Like not
only did the guy reassure me that the car would
be there. There wasn't even a human being there. So
I was like running around the lobby at you know,
two am, being like, could someone please help me find
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my car? And even finally finally someone was able to
call down and I think the guy was taking a nap.
I felt bad, but he was able to eventually get
the car. So it was it was kind of a
little tight. People don't understand it when you're doing this
show at this time during on these hours from three
to six, Like if you're trying to get stuff done beforehand,
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it's not happening. It's no man's land, all right. Just
we're in the middle. We're in that sweet spot of
nothing really being open in case something goes wrong seven
eleven and you can't really get help. You better hope
seven eleven has what you need. Yeah, because if they don't,
then that's emergency is full. Yeah, you got it. You
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got to figure it out. Emergency room or seven eleven,
that's all. That's all that's open. So you got and
by the way, I went into to grab a bottled
water from the emergency. Yeah. By the way, the e
er is probably safer in some parts of California than
the seven eleven. So there's that. That's a good point
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see them anymore though that that is a good point
to a whole lot of them. I'll tell you where
they're at. The eye hopped down the street. That's where
they're at. Hey, that kind of that kind of job.
You work up an appetite, so get over there, get
you affordable mail, up an omelet and international house. Um.
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All right, So now this was also Matt Rule the
he's well for now, he's the Carolina Panthers said, I
guess I believe he's our our quarterback. Yeah, but there's
also some boo birds that have been out. There's some
people that have been questioning the direction of the team,
and so Matt Rule, LaVar's former teammate Leavar treated as
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a tackling dummy at Penn State. That that's true, he
said it. Uh, Matt Rule has to say about the
booing and sort of the reaction to him and his team.
I think any any any fan that comes, you know,
I grew up in New York and Philly. I mean
I think I think when fans pay their money to
come here, man, they deserve to see good football, and
they deserve to see better football. Than we played last night,
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and so um, I have you know, I respected. I
have no problem with that, you know. I mean, and
you know my son's on the field with me, and
I told him to say he went the good. You
gotta take the good with the bad, buddy. Like you know,
if we play like that, that's gonna happen, right and
they're gonna boom me. And I get it, you know, Um,
I want. I want to play good football. Star fans
are excited and happy, and I know, you know, I
think we played good defense, but I know that we
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want to see people want see offense and they want
to be excited and entertained, and it's not happening. And
I get it, completely get it. I I can't wait
till he gets the hell out of there, just for
his sake. It has been his achilles. Heeals, he's been there.
They just have not been able to figure out offensively.
And and to your point, like McCaffrey has to be
able to stay healthy like that, there's there's if your
best player can't stay healthy on offense. You know, we
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talked about who are we saying was the most versatile
weapon Deebo Samuel Christian McCaffrey is right up there. When
as far as how they use him, yeah, none better
when he's taking that versatility elsewhere, Yes, get it, there's
not It might be the best decisions ever. Okay, I
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mean all of that everything. Unlike point Lewis he hit
the note. Yes, he didn't have to say, oh sorry,
do you ever want there's a lot of lower body
injuries for McCaffrey. I'm telling you it happened to me. Well,
I'm saying it leads me down a path that he's
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doing a lot of work. That's the truth. Like he's
doing a lot of work calves, squads and just looking
at the ankle and stopped angles at the two A
lot of times when you're you knowl PCLS mc lsate
attends probably cramping involved cramping, dehydration very much. But but
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lots of smiles, lots of lots of happy, lots of
lots of ecstasy. Yeah yeah, this is uh yeah, just
I'm going over like a lot of his um. Yeah
in two best places. UM that's best place. That is
um makes place. It's one way to eat pasta. I mean, listen,
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this is look I think makes place. Yeah, definitely does
what an amazing looking pasta dish. Let's tell you something.
You told me it was a big salad, guy, What
an amazing salad tossed at times? What a derren bag?
All right? All right, so I'm not gonna point fingers.
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We're all culpable here. You just got his dumpe many
who was that? You took us down the road? So
it's technically on you. I mean, there's nothing wrong with
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eating salad. You're right, Yeah, it's healthy. It is certainly
is all right, So if you're Matt Rule, I said
it in my head, and you saw you saw me
saying in my head. I wanted to add on to it. So,
Brady Quinn, there are several notable college coaching jobs that
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are open now. A right, we talked about this. It's
crazy you guys, tell just tell me when the last
time you've heard of this? Many Power of five schools
open this early in the season, so they go through
the list, Jonas. So we've got Colorado, We've got Georgia Tech,
We've got Arizona State, We've got Nebraska, we've got Wisconsin.
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Am I missing anybody is there? But I mean Auburn.
Brian Harson's on the hot seat. You couldn't hear in
Auburn here soon. Yeah, I mean that that's been in
the works. They've been trying to figure out a way
to get him out of there for a while. Some
of the reports that came out that we're all but
Auburn isn't doing that bad. Well, they just lost Elise,
but they had only had one loss at that point,
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right right, But they're they're looking for a reason. It
seems like, I mean, it's just if I'm Matt is
one that I think people thought, maybe like Drinka Witz,
white kid can but then they almost pull off an
upset versus Georgia, so that maybe stay And I mean
they had it, they had headed they had that game,
games set blouses until they didn't it. Uh So it
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feels like we're headed in the direction of of this
could be Matt rule looking at potentially a college gig
next year, and I hope he actually gets one. I
hope he gets one of these top jobs. I hope
he gets hired pretty quickly because they can say whatever
they want about well, it's not working here with Matt.
First of all, what has been the planet quarterback in Carolina?
Everything is like a band aid on a gaping wound,
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whether it's Teddy Bridgewater, well he's going to be the guy,
and that he's gone after a year, and then it's
Sam Donald or p J. Walker gets mixed in. Baker
Mayfield wasn't even a member of the team until about
a month before the season. The idea that he's been
put in a position to have success, I just I
don't think he has. I think he probably realizes that
and he's going to be taking a college job this offseason,
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and I hope he hope he does well. I mean,
you could be right. I think there there's a to me,
there's a saving grace, and I think that it's because
they drafted a quarterback and that quarterback is not available.
I mean, if I'm really looking at it from the
standpoint of it's our offense that needs to improve. I'm
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selling to the ownership that listen, when Matt corral gets
back from from his injury, it gives us another year
to develop the offense. Maybe bring in, you know, another
one or two guys that can contribute to making the
offense better, maybe another big weapon. You know. Maybe I
don't know, maybe maybe you have start having the conversation
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of is it time to move on from McCaffrey and
free up space. I don't. I don't really know. But
if i'm if I'm in that that building and I'm
the head coach, I'm selling the fact that I have
to to traveling to you know, two quarterbacks that that
have journey and I have a quarterback. We have a
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quarterback that we drafted that we have not had an
opportunity to see what he can do and develop him. Yet,
Let's let's give this a little bit more time because
our defense is is what it needs to be. It's
a third round pick, though kind of hard hard sell,
isn't it. I don't know. Or maybe you maybe that's
the cell is to get another quarterback. Maybe that's the sale.
(28:01):
Maybe you wholesale get rid of of the two donald
in and I'm Baker and you bring in another quarterback.
I mean, I'm I'm not certain what the angle is.
But if you're going to angle, angle, angle your you know,
your draft pick, or angle getting a new quarterback with
some more weapons, because you can you can improve an offense,
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or you can you can take the time to develop
a quarterback and that could possibly improve your offense. That's
what I would be selling because they do have a
formidable defense. Yeah, it's uh, by the way event Ventura, California,
Ventura County at Matt Correl. You know, you know it's done. Brady,
he's gotta come back from injury. Um, you know it's
(28:45):
it's it's tough to figure out what the fixes there,
but you do have a window. I mean, eventually top
Brady is gonna retire. We'll see what the Bucks look
like after that. The Saints are are a bit in
no man's land. I'm not sure what to make of
where they are right now. Um, there's it's a talented roster,
but they haven't been kind of a you know, exceeding expectations.
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We know Winston's hurt. Andy Dalton was in this past
week that the Falcons of the biggest overachiever. Like that's
the team I look at and go, like all credits
m Arthur Smith and his staff and the players and
that roster and Marcus Mariota, I mean, Cordio Pattisal's knocked
at that game, still didn't skip a beat. I mean,
and you could say the Browns maybe lost that game
or gave it away in some ways. But the bottom
(29:27):
line is they're way more competitive than what they thought
we thought they were gonna be. So um, it's it's
it's it's I mean, who do you go? Who do
you go get? Who? Who's the next hot head coaching
name you go get? You're gonna say it's Sean Payton. Yeah,
but there's gonna be other jobs open to that. Like
if I'm Sean Payton, do I really want to go there?
There's no quarter there's no plane at quarterback, Like its
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just like it just feels like that's the same issue.
I think he's the type of guy that's gonna survey
the situation and not put himself in a scenario where
he has to rebuild it. And I also think there's
a degree of his legacy was built with the Saints.
Does he really want to go back within the division
and face him twice a year? What about horriball? I mean,
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I I my understanding was after the Minnesota debacle, whatever
you want to say that was gonna be a couple
of years. Is that. Yeah, it's it's over for at
least the time being. Um wanting to to jump that
ship imagined showing up thinking somebody's gonna offer you the job,
and they go, oh, this isn't a job interview. We
just wanted to talk to you. Oh, I'll go take Yeah,
(30:30):
I'll take the contract. That Michigan's happen. Yeah, cancel that
appointment with the rillator. Um. I always wanted to be
here for four o'clock. Let's let's let's book a flight instead. Man.
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that will be happening here. So there's that fun stuff.
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Just say he brought it up and I forgot to
tell you guys, wanted to pass along the message here.
It's a random thing to know about someone. It's even
more random to know how he knows that blame pet Yeah,
blame Petros. I mean, you know he is. Yeah, I
don't know. Petros has told me some stuff in the
past that hasn't been true. Was some of that Stanford
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and uh, you know, the the effects of a coach
that was at Stanford that's not there anymore, like stuff
like that. Yeah, there is that, right. Um, well, we'll
have some fun with him tomorrow. He's always always bright
and shining light here on FSR when he wakes up
in the morning. Right now, though, from the entire rack
dot com studios, we must look back on the game.
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Last night. We did do a prop at Monster, so
it's timeless taken away. Yeah, to feat your degenerate gambling soul,
the proper bet monsters. All right, lead the lap. I
had a bad feeling about this. So what were the
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what were the bets? One by one and how did
things turn out? We'll start off the top. We started
with who would have most catches in the game between
Cooper cup or the field? Jonas and Lavarre You guys
both took the field. Brady took Cooper Cup obviously. He
had fourteen catches for two yards, out doing his teammate
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Higbie with ten. By the way. So basically he the
one time we bet on this and LaVar and I
go the other direction. He has a career high. That
that's the luck that we had last night. Look at
his like the last four games against the forty niners,
his stats are ridiculous. I think he has like he
had over four yards the last three games against him
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coming into the matchup. Is he the best receiver in football?
Or like who's in the car Justin Jefferson's in the conversation,
like who else He's been the most consistent? Like that,
dude's the most consistent and maybe the best. I don't know.
Tree kill, Yeah, there's tree kill as well. It's more explosive.
I don't know, Yeah, Justin Justin Jefferson probably it. We'll
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go ahead. But that's crazy. Do you Nobody came close
on the other on the other team, No, nobody, not
even close. Well, Deebo had more yards, but but not
more catches. Six catches less than that, and that was
the most on their team. In fact, actually he did
not have more yards. He only had a hundred fifteen yards.
He spread the ball around a little bit over there,
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you know. Okay, yeah, all right, it's not like Coper
cap what else all right, you guys. Next prop we
talked about was first San Francisco Landmark. Even though they
don't play in San Francisco, we would see in the
broadcast Golden gate Bridge, Brady and LaVar. You guys took
that one Alcatraz. Nobody took that Fisherman's wharf or the
sleeping bags downtown. Now the closest thing I could find
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he did. Jonas did take the sleeping bags. That is correct.
I did send you guys a picture of the only
UH shot of the San Francisco skyline. It looks like
Fisherman's wharf. I believe that Fisherman's got it. But I'd
also like to point this out that there may be
sleeping bags. I get a problem here. Here's why my
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the ones because I actually have the balls to go
out on a limb and pick some of the options
that would pay out. More So, if I do get
one of these right, like if they did show some
sleeping bags downtown, that should pay me out like four
to one at least I should be getting four points
correct for that if that was the case. Yeah, but
we never do that. Like everything's got that would be
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if they showed sleeping bad eggs, and that was what
we definitively had. I would be okay with you give
four parts. Could you imagine whoever would be like directing
if they actually showed there to sleeping bags, got a
way to sleeping show the real story at San Francisco. Hey,
someone look up poop maps. Let's try to triangulate the
location of that last person took a dump out there
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on the streets in San Francisco. By the way, you
walk around and flip flops in San Francisco, you're rolling
the dice. Homeboy? Is that trip wire or not? To
heroin needle? God forbid? Yeah, you gotta be careful us
out of here. As we talked about what would Deebo
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Samuel have more of rushing yards, passing yards, receiving yards.
Of course he hit the receiving yards mark six. He
did have two carries for two yards, Jonas, I'm sorry
you were the only one who took that. By the way,
he had some willing participants, because that looked like some
pretty piss poor tackling on the rams during that one
catching running made's just skill man, He's good, it is
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he that fast? He didn't seem like he's that fast
still fast, games plays fast, he plays fast. He's fearless, strong,
too strong. Yeah, it's a gamecock yeah strong. I don't
know what's gonna get me dumped or not, so I'm
not gonna say what else we got. You guys were
all right that Matthew Stafford would commit the first turnover.
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Of course that picks six. And then lastly, you guys,
color of Kyle Shanahan's flat build had red, white or black.
Jonas took white, Brady LaVar, you guys were rights with red. Yeah,
of course we were, damn it. So what what man,
Brady tie? Brady takes the win this week with four?
Lav you had three Jonas. You got the one button
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all because I had the guts. You know, you want
to limb with that sleeping bag one. If not for that,
you would have you would have gotten at least two. Yeah,
at least Brady's really found his groove. I'm getting the
tab in nerve. The prop is very effective for Brady.
LaVar's got over unders. That's what held get back. You
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seriously bet every other one besides the sleeping bags, and
that's what you're upset about. Yes, I mean look trying
to be honest here, I'm trying to make some money
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take another look at the NFC West. All right. Biggest
surprise of the NFC West for you guys early on
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in the season after last night's game, because we've got
everybody sitting in the division at two and two. We
talked about it earlier. Now San Francisco is a slight
favorite to win the division over the l A Rams.
Biggest surprise in the NFC West four games into the
season is what, Brady Quinn, they're all two and two too.
I don't know. I mean, I think Seattle, I think
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it's it's fair to say the seas two and two.
I don't know that anyone had high aspirations for them.
I said earlier, Gino Smith is completing is it's like
seventy of his pass us through four games. He's been
much better than I thought he would be. I think,
what's better than everyone. It's a great story. You know,
he's a guy I got to know a little bit
during my time with the Jets, and I think you
can see his growth the maturity as a player in person.
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So awesome to see that. Um, you know, Kyler Murray's
carrying the Cardinals right now to a two and two records.
I don't know that I saw it working out the
way it has, but seattle to me right now, I
think it's the biggest surprise. Yeah, I would say to Rams,
they're the biggest surprise to me because I wasn't I
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wasn't sure how good they would be, but I thought
that they would be much better than what they are. Like,
they don't even look like if I'm being honest, they
don't even look like a playoff team. Stafford look healthy.
They just don't look like a playoff team. Okay, I
just I mean, does he look healthy? I don't you know,
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I don't know. I just I just know he's turning
the ball over a lot, and I just know that
they're not dominant on defense like they they look passes
huh not working out. I just I would just say
the Rams are my biggest They're they're my biggest surprise.
You know, Jared gofton't look all that bad right now,
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Just saying just trying to, you know, let everybody know
that they can always come back home to know. He's
playing better football than Matt Stafford and has for you know,
I'll put it this with since they put Ben Johnson
as passing game coordinator and then they made him his
his OC, he has been better statistically than Matt Stafford.
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That's not an opinion, that's factual. Go back through like
the second half of last year, at least the last
five games, and then go go look at this year
so far, Jared Goff has been a better quarterback. Not
an opinion, that's just fact. Who's the worst quarterback in
the NFC West right now? Is it Stafford? Because I
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would say Garoppolos probably had ahead of Stafford right now
right now? Yeah, yeah, I think so. I think Stafford
is probably the worst quarterback in that division. Right now,
he's playing the worst. Yeah right now. Um, I did think.
I'll be honest with you, I continue to believe that
Arizona is going to turn this thing around and they're
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gonna get back on track. And you know, the win
at Carolina, and we could talk about what's going on
in Carolina coming up shortly, but the win at Carolina
was a big win for him. I maybe I just
have a blind spot, and I thought Cliff Kingsbury and
Kyler Murray were gonna be much better than they were
coming into this year. But it just it feels like
it's so hard for them to get on track and
(05:27):
get a rhythm going. And even in that game against Carolina,
they were struggling at times and it didn't look good
early on. I don't know where I had this blind
spot with Arizona thinking oh, yeah, they're they're gonna win
the division. That was my pick and after four games, Um,
although everybody's tied, I do not feel confident in my
pick of the Arizona Cardinals. Would I would probably look
at San Francisco if I was going to reevaluate what
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I was looking at in that division. So there's there's
I mean, I told you when Jimmy Garoppolo has started
for the rest of the year, if I could pick
over again that so I would have picked I wouldn't
have picked the Rams, which I'll still hang with the
Rams because that was my pick. But yeah, I mean,
I I just I didn't. I needed to see something
from Trey Lance before we all of a sudden put
all our eggs in that basket. Jimmy Garoppolo last night
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talked about because he made mention of this, that trying
to get back into game shape, trying to get back
into rhythm. I know we talked about it last Monday,
that that there was some validity into that Brady Quin
as far as him getting back into the rhythm of
the offense and and playing shape and all that stuff.
Garoppolo talked about his performance afterwards. Yeah, I think every
week I'll just keep feeling better and better. You know,
(06:32):
the shoulders just it's tough during the season to get
it right. But it's uh, you know, we got long
season ahead of us. Hopefully every week I'll get better
and better. So is he going to have to when
he says the shoulder, is it that he's gonna have
to go through certain like what warm ups things like
that to feel right, or is this just something that
it's going to take still some time to recover and
(06:52):
and all of that to to try and get back
to anywhere close to a percent like he was last
year before the injury in the playoffs, like what he
had Searcher. Yeah, I mean, it's so it was an
abnormal off season for him. You know, he's rehabbing from
the surgery, so his focus is just to be able
to throw a football and not necessarily prepare his arm
and conditioning for a season. He didn't. He didn't go
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into this when he came back with San Francisco to
be the starter. He was going into a thinking like
he's gonna be the backup and you know, hopefully he'll
be ready when he has to go in there for
some spot duty. But you're anticipating being the guy only
when called upon, you know. But he at least that
was a snare going into it. Everything changes once you
become the guy, and it happens in the middle of
the season, and your entire offseason hasn't been preparing you
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to be the guy. So it's just it's it's a
different type of conditioning that his armam and and shoulder
is gonna have to go through in general, whether you're
just coming off the bench, being a backup and getting
used to the amount of reps you're taking through the
course of the week, which is the fact that in
his case, like he wasn't taking all those reps and
stuff in the off season, so his entire body is
still adjusting to that. It's it's it's gonna take a while,
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Like he's gonna go through some arms, some so baby,
some dead arm because he didn't experience that throughout the
off season during camp and and eventually it will come around,
but he probably won't feel back to is like himself
a hent until after the season, like heading into next year.
I just imagine where they would be if they traded
him or cut him, Like where would this team be
(08:19):
with Trey Lance going down like that. That's why this
whole thing the way that it worked out, and seeing
Trey Lance get injured and then Jimmy Garoppolo comes back,
I mean, they basically returned the entire team that they
had last year that you can arguely argue should have
won that NFC title game. They basically returned. Everybody, Deebo,
Samuel came back. Boss is still there. Like all of
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these guys are back, and then you're able to bring
back the same starting quarterback from a year later, still
stomping them. He's awesome, man, he is awesome. Is he
the best all around player in the NFL as far
as gadget do everything? Best all around player in the league, Well,
people do a lot with Tarry Kill. I mean, yeah,
(09:01):
there's other there's other players they put in positions like that,
like Wattle was used more like that last year too.
I don't know, it's possible. He's definitely as possible. Yeah,
I mean I'm sitting here listening going through my Rollo decks.
I mean that's definitely possible. Debo is the most diverse,
the most successfully diverse player. Yeah, I don't. I don't
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have a problem with it. By the way, their walk
out before the game with the boom box, Yeah, they
walk out and they're just like the whole time. It's
the way. It's one of the coolest things in the
NFL to se just oh yeah, it's like thugging bug Tom.
It's usually it's Debo and Trent Williams. But since Trent
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was hurt. It was just debo kind of this week.
They had the one coach holding it that like, I
don't know, it's like a strimp coach or somebody. It's
a gigantic Yeah, it's cool. I thought she was gonna
pull it up right now. I got to see this
so there. Why so what is it like a giant boombox?
They just put on their shoulder and then get out
there to get school days. Yeah, I mean that's yeah,
(10:10):
Brady and I growing up in Ohio, that's what we did.
I don't know what you guys are doing in Pennsylvania,
but you know that's what we did. We wasn't doing that.
I actually got one of those as one of those
um like, do you do like the white elephant, you
know during Christmas time or whatever? I mean burn Like,
I mean, we're gonna let that is that what it's called? Yeah,
it is what it's called. But it is the first off,
(10:31):
I don't know why it's called that. I'm just calling
it what it's called. That is what it's called, all right,
I'm looking at it right now, but we're just saying.
But anyway, I got one of those as a gift
for whoever ended up getting it, and then one of
my buddies got it, and so we ended up getting
him a vlor jumpsuit so he could walk around the
neighborhood with the boom box. By the way, White Elephant
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parties or lamb just this one, by the way. The
Lore outfits are the bomb. They're very comfortable. This one
actually got kind of lit. So what is that? There
was a time where I wore a kangle hat and
of the Lord sweatsuit with the same color Timberlin's as
the Lord sweatsuit. What a wrist band? Okay, I see
(11:17):
what they are? They swaye They're not like it's a
like interesting almost like shiny, like like velvet almost. Yeah, yeah,
mixture of like velvet cotton. Can't wait to never wear that.
That's awesome. Look nice on one of those. You would
actually wear one knowing you, Yeah, I mean you get
(11:38):
like an all black one. You see the way I dress.
I mean you said I just all black anything just black?
And what's drawing that? Brady? What are you trying to say?
This is twice in the same Yeah, what are we
doing here? Like I understand? Why do you have takes?
Jonas wearing right now? What color short is he wearing? Gray? Ye? Gray?
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What color? Hat? Black? Gond something black? One? I mean,
that's why that's why I'm least favorite is two pros
and a cup of Joe here on on fs are
by the way. But it was so dope. It was
the funniest junk ever. Um So, I don't know. I
(12:24):
have to wait to confirm this with Petro's. But Pedro
said this on the air and we talked to him tomorrow.
But did you know that Sean McVeigh vapes? Did you
know that? Who cares? I'm just saying, like, I would
not expect that from a from a coach. Why not?
He's kind of like, how does he know that? Why
does he know that? And that's why he said it
(12:45):
to me. He's like, you didn't know that? I was like, no,
he goes, yeah, Sean mcvape. I was like, what, I
didn't even know that was the thing. But I swear
at least said so we got to confirm with Petro's tomorrow.
But when you hear Sean McVeigh after the game, you go,
I can kind of see it. But he's got he's
got a rast be voice, like maybe you know, maybe
he's not you know, it's not people. I don't know
(13:05):
what I'm saying. You know, maybe he's uh, you know,
got a lung duard or two in his past. You know,
there's there's that's attention of that. Yeah, you know, I'm
just saying, just throwing it out there. That was something
that that was brought to my attention, and you know,
maybe it's something we can address with Petros coming up
on the show tomorrow preview and ahead and then like
a little twenty four hour tease lung dard. Yeah, Hello,
(13:27):
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We have got the decision that has been made by
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very important decision because somebody is close to making a return,
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a little over twenty minutes from now we will get
to the bottom. There's a little bit of a debate,
potential controversy over something that took place during Monday Night
Football last night, So we'll have that for year again
a little over twenty minutes from now here on FS
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are So. One of the situations in the NFL that
just hasn't gone all that smooth is the early run
of Baker Mayfield and the Carolina Panthers UM and so,
Baker Mayfield and the Panthers have not been all that impressive.
There have been some issues, they have struggled on offense.
There's been some boo birds out, there's been all of
that stuff, and a lot of people pointing to Baker
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Mayfield and potentially could there be a quarterback change? Well
Is head coach Matt Rule was asked about the potential
of a quarterback change with Sam Donald potentially being ready
soon to come back from injury. Here was the Panthers
head coach. I think Baker's our quarterback. You know, we
have to we have to, you know, continue to find
ways to help him and then help help the other guys.
You know, Um, you know Sam's Sam's not cleared right now,
(15:18):
you know, and um, you know, we're just gonna keep
trying to get better. So do people think that Baker
Mayfield is just gonna step right in with a with
a shortened off season after just getting to Carolina not
that long ago, and he was just gonna be off
and running and and be candidate. Man, just I think
Baker Mayfield is our story. Run that back, burto run
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that back. That's the first part. I think Baker's our quarterback.
You know, we have to, we have He's your guy.
And stater fu LaVar, No, Matt, That's that's why I'm laughing.
I'm laughing at this. Yeah, that's hold on. Here's the
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only thing I say is are they are they looking
for an uptick? When Donald's healthy and able to get back, Like,
didn't you already move on from him? Now you're going
to go back to him because you feel like Baker's
playing that bad. I would give this more time. I
feel like this is a move that would be a
mistake if you just pull the rug from out underneath them.
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It's not like he's been there that long in the
system that long. I think the biggest concern is he's
got more bad passes than any quarterback in the NFL,
And there might be something to that. You can go
back to his time in Cleveland, you know, and and
either his stature is longer motion. There's a few things
that play a role in that. But you know, also
it's not like he's been their singular issue on offense.
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I wouldn't put it all on him. I just think
it's gonna take some time for for him to be
able to feel comfortable and confident in the system they're running,
and the guy who's supposed to be the star on
their offense can't stay healthy. He's doing great, Christian McCaffrey's
doing great. He's doing let me just tremendous good. He's
got a big bank account and he's got really nice
stuff to go home too, So that is stuff. All
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of that is great for Christians. That's the type of guy,
by the way, well far you know. That's like I've
had this conversation with Jonas, but he's the type of
guy that backs into a spot because he can't wait
to drive home as fast as I'm sure. What do
you do that? Lamar? Yea? Sometimes I get back end
guy a military that a military thing. That's more of
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a I want to get the hell out of here things.
I gotta get out and go. Yeah, you always put
your put your back, put your rear in so you
can see what's coming your way. You know what I mean?
But I do. I do be on the hurry to
get home though for certain Yeah, and when I park park,
I want people to look at my ass. Just look
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look at the back of me, check out that backside,
just to get in as soon as possible, so I
don't I don't have time to do the whole back
and in thing on the way. I want to get
there as soon as possible. I hear you, man, hear yeah,
Like like I don't know if you know this, but
you know when I come in student, I always beat Jonas.
Jonas is always you know, cutting a little close. I
will always make sure I beat Jonas definitely. This pastime
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got me this Jonas comes in quick boy, comes in hot,
ready to go. I could tell you the time and
then the time and then the time. But Jonas Jonas
got with this last time because I told him I
was coming in. He knew. By the way, the best
part about Brady trying to make it to the studio
last time was him leaving me voice notes. Do you
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guys have lights on the cameras here for red lights?
Just ran another one and he kept updating me on
how many red lights he was blowing through. I think
I blew through three. Well, the problem was I I
literally talked to uh, the gentleman at Valet, so can
you leave this? And I think it was a quick
turnaround right like I was. It was like three hours
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four hours later, So I was like, can either leave
this up front? I was like, or can you just
make sure there's a note that someone can have it
brought out of this time? And so I go down,
No one's there and there's like no valet, Like not
only did the guy reassure me that the car would
be there. There wasn't even a human being there. So
I was like running around the lobby at you know,
two am, being like, could someone please help me find
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my car? And even finally finally someone was able to
call down and I think the guy was taking a nap.
I felt bad, but he was able to eventually get
the car. So it was it was kind of a
little tight. People don't understand it when you're doing this
show at this time during on these hours from three
to six, Like if you're trying to get stuff done beforehand,
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it's not happening. It's no man's land, all right. Just
we're in the middle. We're in that sweet spot of
nothing really being open in case something goes wrong seven
eleven and you can't really get help. You better hope
seven eleven has what you need. Yeah, because if they don't,
then that's emergency is full. Yeah, you got it. You
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got to figure it out. Emergency room or seven eleven,
that's all. That's all that's open. So you got and
by the way, I went into to grab a bottled
water from the emergency. Yeah. By the way, the e
er is probably safer in some parts of California than
the seven eleven. So there's that. That's a good point
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see them anymore though that that is a good point
to a whole lot of them. I'll tell you where
they're at. The eye hopped down the street. That's where
they're at. Hey, that kind of that kind of job.
You work up an appetite, so get over there, get
you affordable mail, up an omelet and international house. Um.
(20:45):
All right, So now this was also Matt Rule the
he's well for now, he's the Carolina Panthers said, I
guess I believe he's our our quarterback. Yeah, but there's
also some boo birds that have been out. There's some
people that have been questioning the direction of the team,
and so Matt Rule, LaVar's former teammate Leavar treated as
(21:06):
a tackling dummy at Penn State. That that's true, he
said it. Uh, Matt Rule has to say about the
booing and sort of the reaction to him and his team.
I think any any any fan that comes, you know,
I grew up in New York and Philly. I mean
I think I think when fans pay their money to
come here, man, they deserve to see good football, and
they deserve to see better football. Than we played last night,
(21:28):
and so um, I have you know, I respected. I
have no problem with that, you know. I mean, and
you know my son's on the field with me, and
I told him to say he went the good. You
gotta take the good with the bad, buddy. Like you know,
if we play like that, that's gonna happen, right and
they're gonna boom me. And I get it, you know, Um,
I want. I want to play good football. Star fans
are excited and happy, and I know, you know, I
think we played good defense, but I know that we
(21:49):
want to see people want see offense and they want
to be excited and entertained, and it's not happening. And
I get it, completely get it. I I can't wait
till he gets the hell out of there, just for
his sake. It has been his achilles. Heeals, he's been there.
They just have not been able to figure out offensively.
And and to your point, like McCaffrey has to be
able to stay healthy like that, there's there's if your
best player can't stay healthy on offense. You know, we
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talked about who are we saying was the most versatile
weapon Deebo Samuel Christian McCaffrey is right up there. When
as far as how they use him, yeah, none better
when he's taking that versatility elsewhere, Yes, get it, there's
not It might be the best decisions ever. Okay, I
(22:31):
mean all of that everything. Unlike point Lewis he hit
the note. Yes, he didn't have to say, oh sorry,
do you ever want there's a lot of lower body
injuries for McCaffrey. I'm telling you it happened to me. Well,
I'm saying it leads me down a path that he's
(22:52):
doing a lot of work. That's the truth. Like he's
doing a lot of work calves, squads and just looking
at the ankle and stopped angles at the two A
lot of times when you're you knowl PCLS mc lsate
attends probably cramping involved cramping, dehydration very much. But but
(23:17):
lots of smiles, lots of lots of happy, lots of
lots of ecstasy. Yeah yeah, this is uh yeah, just
I'm going over like a lot of his um. Yeah
in two best places. UM that's best place. That is
um makes place. It's one way to eat pasta. I mean, listen,
(23:38):
this is look I think makes place. Yeah, definitely does
what an amazing looking pasta dish. Let's tell you something.
You told me it was a big salad, guy, What
an amazing salad tossed at times? What a derren bag?
All right? All right, so I'm not gonna point fingers.
(24:03):
We're all culpable here. You just got his dumpe many
who was that? You took us down the road? So
it's technically on you. I mean, there's nothing wrong with
(24:24):
eating salad. You're right, Yeah, it's healthy. It is certainly
is all right, So if you're Matt Rule, I said
it in my head, and you saw you saw me
saying in my head. I wanted to add on to it. So,
Brady Quinn, there are several notable college coaching jobs that
(24:47):
are open now. A right, we talked about this. It's
crazy you guys, tell just tell me when the last
time you've heard of this? Many Power of five schools
open this early in the season, so they go through
the list, Jonas. So we've got Colorado, We've got Georgia Tech,
We've got Arizona State, We've got Nebraska, we've got Wisconsin.
(25:10):
Am I missing anybody is there? But I mean Auburn.
Brian Harson's on the hot seat. You couldn't hear in
Auburn here soon. Yeah, I mean that that's been in
the works. They've been trying to figure out a way
to get him out of there for a while. Some
of the reports that came out that we're all but
Auburn isn't doing that bad. Well, they just lost Elise,
but they had only had one loss at that point,
(25:32):
right right, But they're they're looking for a reason. It
seems like, I mean, it's just if I'm Matt is
one that I think people thought, maybe like Drinka Witz,
white kid can but then they almost pull off an
upset versus Georgia, so that maybe stay And I mean
they had it, they had headed they had that game,
games set blouses until they didn't it. Uh So it
(25:52):
feels like we're headed in the direction of of this
could be Matt rule looking at potentially a college gig
next year, and I hope he actually gets one. I
hope he gets one of these top jobs. I hope
he gets hired pretty quickly because they can say whatever
they want about well, it's not working here with Matt.
First of all, what has been the planet quarterback in Carolina?
Everything is like a band aid on a gaping wound,
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whether it's Teddy Bridgewater, well he's going to be the guy,
and that he's gone after a year, and then it's
Sam Donald or p J. Walker gets mixed in. Baker
Mayfield wasn't even a member of the team until about
a month before the season. The idea that he's been
put in a position to have success, I just I
don't think he has. I think he probably realizes that
and he's going to be taking a college job this offseason,
(26:36):
and I hope he hope he does well. I mean,
you could be right. I think there there's a to me,
there's a saving grace, and I think that it's because
they drafted a quarterback and that quarterback is not available.
I mean, if I'm really looking at it from the
standpoint of it's our offense that needs to improve. I'm
(26:57):
selling to the ownership that listen, when Matt corral gets
back from from his injury, it gives us another year
to develop the offense. Maybe bring in, you know, another
one or two guys that can contribute to making the
offense better, maybe another big weapon. You know. Maybe I
don't know, maybe maybe you have start having the conversation
(27:19):
of is it time to move on from McCaffrey and
free up space. I don't. I don't really know. But
if i'm if I'm in that that building and I'm
the head coach, I'm selling the fact that I have
to to traveling to you know, two quarterbacks that that
have journey and I have a quarterback. We have a
(27:40):
quarterback that we drafted that we have not had an
opportunity to see what he can do and develop him. Yet,
Let's let's give this a little bit more time because
our defense is is what it needs to be. It's
a third round pick, though kind of hard hard sell,
isn't it. I don't know. Or maybe you maybe that's
the cell is to get another quarterback. Maybe that's the sale.
(28:01):
Maybe you wholesale get rid of of the two donald
in and I'm Baker and you bring in another quarterback.
I mean, I'm I'm not certain what the angle is.
But if you're going to angle, angle, angle your you know,
your draft pick, or angle getting a new quarterback with
some more weapons, because you can you can improve an offense,
(28:25):
or you can you can take the time to develop
a quarterback and that could possibly improve your offense. That's
what I would be selling because they do have a
formidable defense. Yeah, it's uh, by the way event Ventura, California,
Ventura County at Matt Correl. You know, you know it's done. Brady,
he's gotta come back from injury. Um, you know it's
(28:45):
it's it's tough to figure out what the fixes there,
but you do have a window. I mean, eventually top
Brady is gonna retire. We'll see what the Bucks look
like after that. The Saints are are a bit in
no man's land. I'm not sure what to make of
where they are right now. Um, there's it's a talented roster,
but they haven't been kind of a you know, exceeding expectations.
(29:07):
We know Winston's hurt. Andy Dalton was in this past
week that the Falcons of the biggest overachiever. Like that's
the team I look at and go, like all credits
m Arthur Smith and his staff and the players and
that roster and Marcus Mariota, I mean, Cordio Pattisal's knocked
at that game, still didn't skip a beat. I mean,
and you could say the Browns maybe lost that game
or gave it away in some ways. But the bottom
(29:27):
line is they're way more competitive than what they thought
we thought they were gonna be. So um, it's it's
it's it's I mean, who do you go? Who do
you go get? Who? Who's the next hot head coaching
name you go get? You're gonna say it's Sean Payton. Yeah,
but there's gonna be other jobs open to that. Like
if I'm Sean Payton, do I really want to go there?
There's no quarter there's no plane at quarterback, Like its
(29:48):
just like it just feels like that's the same issue.
I think he's the type of guy that's gonna survey
the situation and not put himself in a scenario where
he has to rebuild it. And I also think there's
a degree of his legacy was built with the Saints.
Does he really want to go back within the division
and face him twice a year? What about horriball? I mean,
(30:08):
I I my understanding was after the Minnesota debacle, whatever
you want to say that was gonna be a couple
of years. Is that. Yeah, it's it's over for at
least the time being. Um wanting to to jump that
ship imagined showing up thinking somebody's gonna offer you the job,
and they go, oh, this isn't a job interview. We
just wanted to talk to you. Oh, I'll go take Yeah,
(30:30):
I'll take the contract. That Michigan's happen. Yeah, cancel that
appointment with the rillator. Um. I always wanted to be
here for four o'clock. Let's let's let's book a flight instead. Man.
It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here
on fs are coming up next. We've got a little
bit of controversy as we look back on Monday Night football.
We'll give you the results of the prop ed monsters.
(30:50):
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Just say he brought it up and I forgot to
tell you guys, wanted to pass along the message here.
It's a random thing to know about someone. It's even
more random to know how he knows that blame pet Yeah,
blame Petros. I mean, you know he is. Yeah, I
don't know. Petros has told me some stuff in the
past that hasn't been true. Was some of that Stanford
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and uh, you know, the the effects of a coach
that was at Stanford that's not there anymore, like stuff
like that. Yeah, there is that, right. Um, well, we'll
have some fun with him tomorrow. He's always always bright
and shining light here on FSR when he wakes up
in the morning. Right now, though, from the entire rack
dot com studios, we must look back on the game.
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Last night. We did do a prop at Monster, so
it's timeless taken away. Yeah, to feat your degenerate gambling soul,
the proper bet monsters. All right, lead the lap. I
had a bad feeling about this. So what were the
(33:26):
what were the bets? One by one and how did
things turn out? We'll start off the top. We started
with who would have most catches in the game between
Cooper cup or the field? Jonas and Lavarre You guys
both took the field. Brady took Cooper Cup obviously. He
had fourteen catches for two yards, out doing his teammate
(33:46):
Higbie with ten. By the way. So basically he the
one time we bet on this and LaVar and I
go the other direction. He has a career high. That
that's the luck that we had last night. Look at
his like the last four games against the forty niners,
his stats are ridiculous. I think he has like he
had over four yards the last three games against him
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coming into the matchup. Is he the best receiver in football?
Or like who's in the car Justin Jefferson's in the conversation,
like who else He's been the most consistent? Like that,
dude's the most consistent and maybe the best. I don't know.
Tree kill, Yeah, there's tree kill as well. It's more explosive.
I don't know, Yeah, Justin Justin Jefferson probably it. We'll
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go ahead. But that's crazy. Do you Nobody came close
on the other on the other team, No, nobody, not
even close. Well, Deebo had more yards, but but not
more catches. Six catches less than that, and that was
the most on their team. In fact, actually he did
not have more yards. He only had a hundred fifteen yards.
He spread the ball around a little bit over there,
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you know. Okay, yeah, all right, it's not like Coper
cap what else all right, you guys. Next prop we
talked about was first San Francisco Landmark. Even though they
don't play in San Francisco, we would see in the
broadcast Golden gate Bridge, Brady and LaVar. You guys took
that one Alcatraz. Nobody took that Fisherman's wharf or the
sleeping bags downtown. Now the closest thing I could find
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he did. Jonas did take the sleeping bags. That is correct.
I did send you guys a picture of the only
UH shot of the San Francisco skyline. It looks like
Fisherman's wharf. I believe that Fisherman's got it. But I'd
also like to point this out that there may be
sleeping bags. I get a problem here. Here's why my
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the ones because I actually have the balls to go
out on a limb and pick some of the options
that would pay out. More So, if I do get
one of these right, like if they did show some
sleeping bags downtown, that should pay me out like four
to one at least I should be getting four points
correct for that if that was the case. Yeah, but
we never do that. Like everything's got that would be
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if they showed sleeping bad eggs, and that was what
we definitively had. I would be okay with you give
four parts. Could you imagine whoever would be like directing
if they actually showed there to sleeping bags, got a
way to sleeping show the real story at San Francisco. Hey,
someone look up poop maps. Let's try to triangulate the
location of that last person took a dump out there
(36:20):
on the streets in San Francisco. By the way, you
walk around and flip flops in San Francisco, you're rolling
the dice. Homeboy? Is that trip wire or not? To
heroin needle? God forbid? Yeah, you gotta be careful us
out of here. As we talked about what would Deebo
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Samuel have more of rushing yards, passing yards, receiving yards.
Of course he hit the receiving yards mark six. He
did have two carries for two yards, Jonas, I'm sorry
you were the only one who took that. By the way,
he had some willing participants, because that looked like some
pretty piss poor tackling on the rams during that one
catching running made's just skill man, He's good, it is
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he that fast? He didn't seem like he's that fast
still fast, games plays fast, he plays fast. He's fearless, strong,
too strong. Yeah, it's a gamecock yeah strong. I don't
know what's gonna get me dumped or not, so I'm
not gonna say what else we got. You guys were
all right that Matthew Stafford would commit the first turnover.
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Of course that picks six. And then lastly, you guys,
color of Kyle Shanahan's flat build had red, white or black.
Jonas took white, Brady LaVar, you guys were rights with red. Yeah,
of course we were, damn it. So what what man,
Brady tie? Brady takes the win this week with four?
Lav you had three Jonas. You got the one button
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all because I had the guts. You know, you want
to limb with that sleeping bag one. If not for that,
you would have you would have gotten at least two. Yeah,
at least Brady's really found his groove. I'm getting the
tab in nerve. The prop is very effective for Brady.
LaVar's got over unders. That's what held get back. You
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seriously bet every other one besides the sleeping bags, and
that's what you're upset about. Yes, I mean look trying
to be honest here, I'm trying to make some money
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