February 16, 2023 • 37 mins
Patrick Mahomes gives big props to Jalen Hurts after the Super Bowl. Cameron Heyward calls out the Eagles “Push Play” but LaVar calls the criticism soft. The guys debate best fast food burgers and the Kelce Brothers show love for mom.
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Oh man, and to filet o fish. Oh my god,
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to filet fish. If you're out there and you listen
to you here to filet fish, you know what that means.
That was my jam in the day. You want to
make l a happy, bring him a value meal of
filet fish, filet value male with an extra fish, filet
with a tomato on it. Don't they could with tomatoes
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an they don't know. By the way I heard, Uh,
this is probably a bunch of crap, But this is
one of those old wives tales back in the day
that McDonald's used to put cocaine. She heard they used
to put cocaine and something. I don't know what it was.
But they put make you come back. McDonald's are San Quentin.
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I'm saying, I know, not cocaine. I heard that McDonald
If you aren't McDonald's drive through right now, don't be alarmed.
But I heard that they didn't use tomatoes on a
lot of their products because there were so many McDonald's
that there would be a tomato shortage if they did.
That was one of the things I heard back in
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the day. I don't because I can't be true. Most
of their stuff had tomatoes. Lead to lap let's go
live to us to think about it. Yeah, like most
of their like Lee are are drive through food addition,
insider and stunions. They didn't have like whole onions. They
were like little little little onions on the big Mac.
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Was there tomatoes pickles? There is? I think there is
a bigger on the menu that has a tomato, but
there was. There is truth of the story. McDonald's was
suffering from a tomato shortage, and uh as as early
as last year, as lately as last year. Just think
about that. There are so many to get A quarter
pound isn't quarter didn't quarter pounders have a tomato? I
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think they did. I think that's like the only one
there's there was lattuce, tomato, pickle onion. There was like
some song like a theme, right was it was a commercial?
So you like think about that. You talk about successful,
there were so many of them. They were so successful
it almost wiped out an entire produce product had for tomato,
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for my fish of filece. They also blame high prices
on tomatoes. High price of tomatoes, so you had to
keep your your profit margin up in your your burn
red because the Big Mac, like it didn't have tomatoes.
It was the shredd. Now that you're sitting here saying it,
that's crazy as hell. I'm sitting here thinking, like catch up.
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That was catch up. That's your tomatoes. So if you
were making the whopper, your go too should have been, Hey,
if you like tomatoes, come here, because we at least
we got it. It's a little soggy, but yeah, not
a McDonald. I mean, would you take a whopper over
to Big Mac? Now that I'm older, yes, no, yeah,
you say no, no Big Mac? When I was younger,
all the way in on flame Broyal, Flame Broyal is trash,
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she's burn trash. What about I mean, look the famous
star to me is the best one of the budge good.
But you gotta taut called was good. You got to
take out a loan to get a burger. Yeah, it's
like you got, I've shot got Like I hadn't been
to Carl's Jr. And months and when like uh, probably,
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I don't know, like six months ago everybody else and yeah,
but hard Ease and other parts of the country, and
I couldn't. I always had good burgers. It's Carls on
the East coast in the Midwest. I couldn't believe how
much a famous star was Like I thought it was
a combo. There was no fries, there was no drink,
there was no nothing. There was no additions straight up,
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like seven dollars for a famous star. Rallys. Yeah, and
they're fries to me, Rally's fries are the best fries ever.
Rally fries. Yeah, you ever have them? No, you ever
have Raley Rally's list a long time Rallies fried They're like,
I don't know there, they were different. They're the most
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different fries. They're like breaded or something like that. So
I can't really explain it, but they're the best. Yeah.
Robert Guero showed me his receipt from five guys for
just a meal. It was over, five guys are the
greatest burgers of all time, all time. You were saying
that early, like five guys. I love five guys. What
you win? What do you want burto? We got that right?
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We got it all right? Thank you? You walked right
into that. Five guys is the best burger of all time?
What did I say? Run it back and run it
back to right? In running back burno? Can we run
it back? Did we get it quick enough? Doing it
with so many guys? That's gonna be We got it?
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What did I say? You got it? This is don't
worry about it. Tell me what savages behind the scenes here?
You say, so you're the savage because you sat there?
Did you get because I've been down this road, I've
said things on the biggest, baddest burger I've ever had?
And is that what I said? I didn't say that.
What did I say? You said that? Man, we'll play
it back for you. Don't worry. Interesting it was caught.
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You were saying that early, like five guys, I love
five guys. Okay, oh okay, thank you. That'll be here
that'll be here the next ten fifteen years. I love
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the Kansas City Chiefs had a Super Bowl parade and
it's all celebrations for Kansas City. Meanwhile, in Philadelphia, you
got a lot of people that are a little bit
upset still about the call, the holding call, or the
you know what they perceived not to be a penalty,
the fact that their team was favored to win a
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super Bowl and they didn't win a super Bowl. Well
after Mahomes made some comments after the game that if
you're a Philadelphia Eagles fan, if you are an Eagles fan,
and if you are a fan of Jalen Hurts, and
if you are looking back and seeing what happened in
this Super Bowl, Patrick Mahomes did make some comments about
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Jalen Hurts after the game that I think speak to
what this could look like for Philadelphia moving forward. And
it's not all bad news. I mean, if there was
any doubters left there, there shouldn't be now. I mean
the way he stepped up on this stage, um and
ran through the ball whatever it took for his team
to win. I mean, I was a special performance. I
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don't I don't want to get I don't want it
to get lost in the in the loss that they had.
I mean, even then, whenever we got all the momentum
in that game and we went up eight points in
the fourth quarter, for him to respond and move his
team right down the football field and running in himself
with the two point conversion, it was a special performance
by him and and um, I mean you make sure
you appreciate that when you look back on this game. Jalen,
it's made himself He's right, played the you know, the
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best in the game right now? Is is it fair
to say Jalen Hurts is the best player on the
field in Super Bowl fifty. Yeah, like he he made
him sit with the most He's not the best, he
was the best in that game. Yeah, yeah, Pat Pat Mahomes.
Patrick Mahomes is the best. Yeah, but but in that game,
Jalen Hurts was the best player in that game. Like,
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he had the best performance in that game. Yeah. You
come away from that because there was a lot of
people that wondered, Okay, well who did they play to
get there? And he's a little banged up because you
know he was dealing with the injury as well too.
And then just to see the way he performed and look,
they did it, you know, to start off the game
when they needed to rally back, they rallied back. The
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one knock on him is the fumble, and that was
a crucial air in the game on Jalen Hurts. But
other than that, man, he was fantastic. You know, Philly
fans are complaining that they feel like he got hit
in the face when he fumbled that or something. Let
me go back to that place and Here's here's what
I'll say about the idea of the call. The call
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mattered at the end of the game because everybody thought
that Jalen Hurts could get them and field goal range
and take them too to overtime. That's not to say
that Kansas City doesn't win in and overtime. I just
think people were so so caught up into the fact
that uh, Jalen was rallying them back. Um. During the
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course of that game, nothing, nothing seemed to be insurmountable
except for when they got that first down at the
end of the game. That was the only moment when
the pressure or the the air in the balloon of
this game was just like added there was that call.
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The entire way it was like, oh fumble, okay, Oh
they got it back. Oh pat Homes, Oh they got
it back. Oh they had to play. Oh no, they
got it back. Like it was. It was a it
was a very very well played game. It was a
great game until the end. Yeah, it was a great game.
And look there was the penalty call and all that.
But I think for it's pretty crazy to think this
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is where we're at because people could say whatever they
want about well, Philly, you know picked Jalen Hurts in
the second round, and they could say whatever they want
about it. The fact of the matter is the discussion
about Jalen Hurts coming into this season and last season
was after they moved on from Carson Wentz. Well, this
is a stop gap quarterback, and we're gonna find a guy.
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We just need somebody to sort of get us to
where we need to get to and then we'll find
a guy that if if we need to draft somebody,
this will just be somebody that will get us to
that point. And it has gone from he's a stop
gap quarterback taken in the second round too. Bro, He's
gonna get what fifty million dollars a year. He's a
franchise quarterback. He's gonna get franchise quarter back money. And
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you can have all the discussions you want about, well,
is he better than so and so who's making this
It's his time to get paid. He's going to get paid,
and Philly's gonna have to write a big fat check
for him this season. And all he did was proved
all anybody that had anything positive to say about him
and what he went through in his career and whether
or not he could play at this level. What he
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did at that Super Bowl, best player on the field,
and he's absolutely gonna get every penny that he's got
coming to him based on what he did in that
game on Sunday. He was fantastic, man, fair enough, absolutely fantastic.
And some would say, did he get hit in the
face not before he dropped the ball? Yeah, I mean
that's a reach, Philly fans, it's a reach. Now. You
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see the problem is you he did get his face
mask at like I'll tell you this, by standard of calls,
you could have called it a face mask, but he
was fumbling before he got hit face regardless. I mean,
that's he erased the play, right, I mean, he erased
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the play. But with that being said, and I mean, listen,
Kansas City miss a field goal, right, kNs City miss
a field goal? You get me started on that. You know,
there there were players that were left out there in
this game on both sides. So it was it's just
one of those games where guys, guys were finding a way,
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whether it was on the offense side, whether it was
on the defense side. In this game, you saw two
teams that had a resolve to win the game. That's
all you can ask for. It that's all you can
want as a fan of the sport, and if you're
a fan of one of these teams, that's all you
can ask for. It was a disappointing end to the
game for certain but but the game was well played
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and and that was not a missed call. And whether
you want to say they should have been calling it
all all game or not, whether you fell on the
side of it was a penalty that should have been
called or not, it doesn't matter. The game was played.
There were chances to win the game and multiple places,
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Like you said, he took them down, they got to touchdown.
Then they get a two point conversion, which it looked
like he was about to be stopped on the two
point conversion, and he pushes his way in, knife's his
way into the end zone and gets the two points.
Game on at that point in time, it's just it's
just football, it's the game. It's the they ran out
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of time. Unfortunately, the penalty came at a point in
time where ice the game they ran out of town. Like, now,
what happens if they kicked the ball off, they squibbed
the ball and they run it back, you know, like
any that's what we love about football. Anything and everything
can possibly play out and happen in football, and that's
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that's just what it is. Let me just say this.
I know Harrison Butker kicked the game winning field goal.
I get all that. Let me tell you something. He
screwed me out of twenty bucks. I had Chiefs first
to score ten and Harrison Butker, who's a modern day
Mike vander Jack who's really good but kind of stinks
sometimes too, goes out there and joints the forty two
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yard field goal and Philly goes down and scores, and
he jipped me out of twenty bucks. Harrison Butker did,
so everybody celebrates him and he's riding around on a
float being congratulated because he kicks some gimme at the
end of the Super Bowl to win that game. For him,
Just remember how many people you screwed over when it
comes to money. Who had Chiefs first to ten in
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that Super Bowl? And that, really, to me is the
main takeaway from Super Bowl fifty seven, if I do
say so myself. How about that shout out to my
guy Calvin Ridley. I feel your paining, buddy. We all
get screwed sometimes when we want to place a place
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Cam Hayward of the Pittsburgh Steelers not a big fan
of this Eagles push play, which you asked Albert Brier
about last hour here on the show. And Cam Hayward
was on his podcast, the Not Just Football Podcast, and
he had some strong words about the play. Let's take
a listen. It's illegal and then they're never never said
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if you watch it, the old lineman are never set.
He's not happy. I'm triggered. Do you think the rules
should be changed? Yes, it should be changed. And there's
never a given time they hurry up to the ball.
No one's ever said they're rolling forward. I have this
on tape, we can watch it. We can find some
tape on this. I'm always because no, it's always skewed
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to the offense. I'm just confused why they switched the rule.
It used to be a penalt need to push your
back forward. Seem like nobody really noticed until the Eagles
were like, oh, this is unstoppable. So there was Cam
Hayward was too annoyed by the other person to even
hear what Cam said. So my my apologies. I didn't
catch on. I didn't catch on anything other than he
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they don't get set and it's illegal. Kimes. Not a
fan of Mena Kimes. I'm not a fan of that.
What was going on right there? Sorry, And I don't
even know who that is. I'm not drown to be
a hater or anything, but that would work. That was
so that being said Cam Hayward not a big fan
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of the play. And look, this is something I was.
You know, it's funny because I was listening to I
forget what game it was on radio. I got it
was it was later in the season. But Mike Mayock
was on the radio call and he made the point
because there was one of those plays where they did
a push play and it was I think it was
an other team that was doing it. I don't know
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that it was the Eagles. It might have been the Eagles,
but there was another there was a team doing it,
and his point was, you know, for a league that's
always concerned about player safety and worried about the safety
of their quarterbacks, why the hell did they think this
is a good idea to have three guys jam your
quarterback in the spine to push him forward to try
and get a first down. Because that's sort of looks
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like that. There's times Jalen hurts when he's when he's
being pushed forward, like that's an uncomfortable position to be in,
especially for a guy coming off the injury that he's got.
And it is surprising that this has just been one
of those things to where the NFL is just kind
of I mean, okay, I guess we're just gonna be
all right with it. It's a scrum, rugby scrum almost.
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It's this this a scrum, y'all sound like big sissies
Like I can understand the the idea of it being
an unfair advantage. I get that, But I mean you
could scrum. You could you could load up just like
they're loading up. If you're a defender, just pissing you
off when you see that. I will say this, there
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is space in between you and the ball, whereas in
scrums and true scrumbs, you already are locked in. Everybody
is locked in, whereas this one is you gotta shoot
in and and and guys are gonna have their heads down.
It is a dangerous proposition, it really is. But it's
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wrestling with there's a restart to a match. You start
in that position and then you go there's no there's
no rolling start. You know, you're not getting a head start,
And this one it does feel like there's a little
bit of a head start. If there's a rolling start,
then that is illegal. But if they get down and
they get set and they blow your ass off the ball.
The only thing that we're really sitting here debating is
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the quarterback being pushed. That's really it. Yeah, you can't
debate what's taking place up front because and and all actuality.
That's why it's called the trenches. You're in the trenches.
It's called that for a reason. It is a full
contact sport. You have a helmet, you have a face mask,
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they have all this technology that they test to make
sure that you're trying to protect body parts and and
and pet body parts and different things like that. You're
not gonna ever get away from totally the brutality of
a full contact sport. I almost feel like football is
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the only sport that everybody which hunts physicality of the sport,
like screw that you line up and and and if
you know what, if they could have ran that play
and won the game, if they could have ran that
play twenty times, that was twenty times they ran that play,
and you could win that game. Then run to play.
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Run it until they say that it's it's illegal and
they're not gonna use it. Run to play. So you
don't have an issue with three players behind Jalen Hurts
pushing him forward. Stop to play, Stop to play. What
if it's just one If you had there, there's one
players allowed, but this three bunched up, you only got
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so much body to push on, Like, do you really
think that three people pushing on a dude, the force
transference from those three dudes is equally going into Jalen
Hurts his body, and Jalen Hurts is just this rag
doll that's being pushed through all of these people through
mass human And I can break it down for you.
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I think the guy in the middle, he's responsible for
Jalen Hurts from the back of his helmet all the
way down to his tailbone, and the other guys have
a clear job. You already get his shoulder blade on
the right and his shoulder blade on the left, and
then you latch on and then you guys shove him forward.
May I ask you a question, what's are those grown
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asthmen on the other side of where he's being pushed as? Okay,
so that's it for me, So why can't you push them?
Why what's stopping the other side from pushing the front
and back to take the middle linebacker and have three guys.
I thought it was excellent. I thought it was excellent
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in the sense that you're demoralizing that defensive front. You're
demoralizing them, like that's That's what I was thinking when
I was watching the game. I'm like you, we said that.
This is what This is what I said. I don't
want to speak for everyone else. I said going into
this game, one of the biggest differences in this game
is going to be the physicality of the offensive and
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defensive fronts of the Philadelphia Eagles. They are going to
be too physical for Kansas City. And in those moments,
you saw the physicality that differentiate the differentia differential and
in the strength of of the offensive line of Philly
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versus the strength of of the Kansas City Chief defensive front.
You saw the difference every single time. So if we're
saying because if you look at it, they were blowing,
they were blowing Kansas City off the ball. Listen, they've
been doing it all year. The place unstoppable. They've been
doing it all year. But it is stoppable. If you
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have a Keith Trailer and a Tet Washington and you
have guys in there, that's why you have That's why
you have the ability to to substitute when the offense substitutes.
If you get in to that tank personnel on the field,
you are able to put in tank personnel to match
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that gold line personnel, whatever you wanna call it. You
match the physicality and the size and the girth of
what's taking place up front. That's where it all starts,
and that's where it all ends. As far as they
eyes being behind them and pushing them. If there's no
push up front, I don't give a good gosh darn.
If there's a running back, you think Reggie Bush is
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pushing Matt Liner through a massive line of humanity. If
them boys is pushing like like, you got guys that
are bench pressing five hundreds some plus pounds, squatting x
amount of weight, thousands of pounds, like, I'm not trying
to hear that. Either you you went up front, or
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you lose up front. And and the only time the
quarterback begins to matter is if the line of scrimmage moves.
The line of scrimmage has to move. So when that
ball is snapped, whoever wins down there and them trenches
you versus me, that is one on one blocking. You
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get into the gap, you get into the gap, you're
pushing this guy. You're pushing this guy. And it's the
same exact thing for both sides of the ball. So
if they're strong enough to blow you two, three or
four yards off the ball and they're pushing Jalen hurts
extra yard or extra couple of inches or whatever it
may be, you've already lost. You've already lost the front. Now,
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while I'll sit there and say, I understand that there
could be health concerns about it, but to say it's
an unstoppable play, I would I would argue that. I
would argue that, And also I think is it a
safe play. Maybe it's not a safe place. And I
think part of this as well to Cam Hayward. I mean,
you know who his dad was, iron Headyward. That's a
guy who didn't need a push from behind. Iron Head
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Hayward put his head down and people went night night.
Remember Mark, Remember Mark Bavarro. Nobody was pushing Mark Bavaro
from behind. He was just carrying dude. That's how it
was back in the day. Well, that's fine. I prefer
you know, doing it yourself. I'm just saying, whether you
like it or not. You know who had to do
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it themselves. The lineman, them lineman that was pushing them
boys all the way back every single time in that game,
Like figure it out, do you slant, do you get
a heavier guy in there? Whatever it is you need
to do. That's a mono a mind. That's like sumo wrestling,
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Like I gotta hold of you, you gotta hold of me.
You don't have to go backwards. The Eagles players weren't
going backwards. Why weren't they going backwards? Why? Because they
know the snapdout it's probably first sound. If it ain't
first sound, they're trying to draw you off sides or
they run the risk of jumping off sides. They're not
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going to do that. It's going on first sound. Get
your ass down, get your ass ready, and push. Push
you know who, you know, you know who was pushing
Kelsey Eagles line, pushing back first down every time. Say
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it with your chess. By the way, when you mentioned
Keith Trailer and Ted Washington, yes, how about the fact
that they were both on the same defensive line Chicago. Okay, Now,
ain't nobody moving them? You want to know what ray
Lewis was doing. What he was doing. Ain't nobody moving
the Goose and Sam Adams you ever see them, Dude,
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you're not moving them. And then you go to the
outside and you got you got uh Peter Bullware on
one side, you got Mike mcquarie on the other side.
You're not dealing. It's the defensive fronts that's gonna make
the difference. If you can't get off of that defensive front,
then everybody behind there had especially in running running defenses,
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everybody's got a chance to do what they need to do.
Everybody's got a chance to do what you need to do. Matt,
that that defensive front for Chicago during that that's that
with uh King Walley. Come on, man, them boys was
out that bad boy Giggan, Alex Brown a B and
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you're talking about Alex Brown and wile A were big
enough to be in terior lineman and they were dwarfed
by trailer and big Tad dwarfed. So I'm not really
into all of that. Like you start thinking about dudes
like Gilbert Brown, the grave Digger. You start thinking about
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dudes that you you put Jerry Ball, you know, like
the race Seals, the you know, I'm from Pittsburgh, so
and you're thinking about like, you know, big big hassle
rig and all those guys that that you put in
the center of a line, and all their job is
to do is to take two dudes and push them back.
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That's your only job, take two dudes and push them back.
If you don't have nobody like that on your defensive front,
I'm sorry. You got Chris Jones. How did not joint LaVar?
Leaping cats? Like, hey, out there leaping over the line.
You're not gonna push nobody back leaping over the line.
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That's your interior line. You're a linebacker. I can see
your linebacker leaping over You got a defense, a three
technique of zero technique, tiving over the ball. They had
no hope. To me, that's football. You know what that
said to me. We got these boys, let's line up,
let's strap up. This one of them type games. I'm
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coming to your face. I'm coming to your face. This dude,
you're best player on defense, is leaping over us because
we're too physical for him down low. We're too physical
down here to get him. He got a leap over us.
Let's go our game, our time, own that line. That's
how I look at it. But you know, it's a
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whole lot of cisy talk going on. Listen. It's cool,
it's cool. You want to be soft about it. But
in the end, it is football. So you want to
put a rule in and say it's unfair, it's unfair.
It's unfair. Okay, I get it, it's unfair. I don't
get how it's unfair, but it's unfair. You got a
loving guys, they got eleving guys. You gotta go this way,
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you gotta keep them from going that way. You didn't
keep them from going that way, So what's unfair about that?
You got eleving guys? And most people will say it's
usually eleven on ten because a lot of people don't
include the quarterback. You can include the quarterback from Philly.
That's great, eleven on eleven. What's the problem? You got
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eleving guys versus their eleving guys to stop to play.
You never stopped it, So now everybody's bitching and moaning
and complaining about that is unfair. It's unfair. It's unfair.
Stop the push the dude back. I don't care if
you're the only one that pushes him back. If it
didn't work because somebody else, then figure it out with
that guy. But don't you be the guy that's getting
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your ass. Drove the hell up off of the ball.
Drop the ball, carry drop, drive your lineman back. If
you're the point of the defense and you can drive
that center back, you drive the center back. There isn't
but so much you can do in that that situation. Anyway,
you're going in one or two or zero hole. One
two or zero hole. You might try to squirt through
(31:19):
the three or the four hole. You might and that's
a risk. That's a risk. You're going you're going one
step to the left or one step to the right.
And you're going down to try to push forward, and
you're telling me that's too hard, that's dangerous, that isn't sure,
it might be dangerous. Football is dangerous. All right, it's
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So yeah, I was the only ironically, you know, if
you lose the Super Bowl and you're you're crying after
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nothing more than the love of family life. Just to
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they show that they have the work ethic, they show
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hard nosed dudes. For him to be so god dangned tough,
but to be vulnerable enough to be loving and happening
in the moment that he had with his mom and
what that represented for his family and his dad and
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his brother like, hats off, man, I got even more
respect for for the Kelsey family. And and it's also
what's cool about it is just to see the fact
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Oh man, and to filet o fish. Oh my god,
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to filet fish. If you're out there and you listen
to you here to filet fish, you know what that means.
That was my jam in the day. You want to
make l a happy, bring him a value meal of
filet fish, filet value male with an extra fish, filet
with a tomato on it. Don't they could with tomatoes
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an they don't know. By the way I heard, Uh,
this is probably a bunch of crap, But this is
one of those old wives tales back in the day
that McDonald's used to put cocaine. She heard they used
to put cocaine and something. I don't know what it was.
But they put make you come back. McDonald's are San Quentin.
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I'm saying, I know, not cocaine. I heard that McDonald
If you aren't McDonald's drive through right now, don't be alarmed.
But I heard that they didn't use tomatoes on a
lot of their products because there were so many McDonald's
that there would be a tomato shortage if they did.
That was one of the things I heard back in
(01:50):
the day. I don't because I can't be true. Most
of their stuff had tomatoes. Lead to lap let's go
live to us to think about it. Yeah, like most
of their like Lee are are drive through food addition,
insider and stunions. They didn't have like whole onions. They
were like little little little onions on the big Mac.
(02:11):
Was there tomatoes pickles? There is? I think there is
a bigger on the menu that has a tomato, but
there was. There is truth of the story. McDonald's was
suffering from a tomato shortage, and uh as as early
as last year, as lately as last year. Just think
about that. There are so many to get A quarter
pound isn't quarter didn't quarter pounders have a tomato? I
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think they did. I think that's like the only one
there's there was lattuce, tomato, pickle onion. There was like
some song like a theme, right was it was a commercial?
So you like think about that. You talk about successful,
there were so many of them. They were so successful
it almost wiped out an entire produce product had for tomato,
(02:55):
for my fish of filece. They also blame high prices
on tomatoes. High price of tomatoes, so you had to
keep your your profit margin up in your your burn
red because the Big Mac, like it didn't have tomatoes.
It was the shredd. Now that you're sitting here saying it,
that's crazy as hell. I'm sitting here thinking, like catch up.
(03:15):
That was catch up. That's your tomatoes. So if you
were making the whopper, your go too should have been, Hey,
if you like tomatoes, come here, because we at least
we got it. It's a little soggy, but yeah, not
a McDonald. I mean, would you take a whopper over
to Big Mac? Now that I'm older, yes, no, yeah,
you say no, no Big Mac? When I was younger,
all the way in on flame Broyal, Flame Broyal is trash,
(03:40):
she's burn trash. What about I mean, look the famous
star to me is the best one of the budge good.
But you gotta taut called was good. You got to
take out a loan to get a burger. Yeah, it's
like you got, I've shot got Like I hadn't been
to Carl's Jr. And months and when like uh, probably,
(04:02):
I don't know, like six months ago everybody else and yeah,
but hard Ease and other parts of the country, and
I couldn't. I always had good burgers. It's Carls on
the East coast in the Midwest. I couldn't believe how
much a famous star was Like I thought it was
a combo. There was no fries, there was no drink,
there was no nothing. There was no additions straight up,
(04:23):
like seven dollars for a famous star. Rallys. Yeah, and
they're fries to me, Rally's fries are the best fries ever.
Rally fries. Yeah, you ever have them? No, you ever
have Raley Rally's list a long time Rallies fried They're like,
I don't know there, they were different. They're the most
(04:45):
different fries. They're like breaded or something like that. So
I can't really explain it, but they're the best. Yeah.
Robert Guero showed me his receipt from five guys for
just a meal. It was over, five guys are the
greatest burgers of all time, all time. You were saying
that early, like five guys. I love five guys. What
you win? What do you want burto? We got that right?
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We got it all right? Thank you? You walked right
into that. Five guys is the best burger of all time?
What did I say? Run it back and run it
back to right? In running back burno? Can we run
it back? Did we get it quick enough? Doing it
with so many guys? That's gonna be We got it?
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What did I say? You got it? This is don't
worry about it. Tell me what savages behind the scenes here?
You say, so you're the savage because you sat there?
Did you get because I've been down this road, I've
said things on the biggest, baddest burger I've ever had?
And is that what I said? I didn't say that.
What did I say? You said that? Man, we'll play
it back for you. Don't worry. Interesting it was caught.
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five guys. Okay, oh okay, thank you. That'll be here
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the Kansas City Chiefs had a Super Bowl parade and
it's all celebrations for Kansas City. Meanwhile, in Philadelphia, you
got a lot of people that are a little bit
upset still about the call, the holding call, or the
you know what they perceived not to be a penalty,
the fact that their team was favored to win a
(06:57):
super Bowl and they didn't win a super Bowl. Well
after Mahomes made some comments after the game that if
you're a Philadelphia Eagles fan, if you are an Eagles fan,
and if you are a fan of Jalen Hurts, and
if you are looking back and seeing what happened in
this Super Bowl, Patrick Mahomes did make some comments about
(07:18):
Jalen Hurts after the game that I think speak to
what this could look like for Philadelphia moving forward. And
it's not all bad news. I mean, if there was
any doubters left there, there shouldn't be now. I mean
the way he stepped up on this stage, um and
ran through the ball whatever it took for his team
to win. I mean, I was a special performance. I
(07:40):
don't I don't want to get I don't want it
to get lost in the in the loss that they had.
I mean, even then, whenever we got all the momentum
in that game and we went up eight points in
the fourth quarter, for him to respond and move his
team right down the football field and running in himself
with the two point conversion, it was a special performance
by him and and um, I mean you make sure
you appreciate that when you look back on this game. Jalen,
it's made himself He's right, played the you know, the
(08:04):
best in the game right now? Is is it fair
to say Jalen Hurts is the best player on the
field in Super Bowl fifty. Yeah, like he he made
him sit with the most He's not the best, he
was the best in that game. Yeah, yeah, Pat Pat Mahomes.
Patrick Mahomes is the best. Yeah, but but in that game,
Jalen Hurts was the best player in that game. Like,
(08:26):
he had the best performance in that game. Yeah. You
come away from that because there was a lot of
people that wondered, Okay, well who did they play to
get there? And he's a little banged up because you
know he was dealing with the injury as well too.
And then just to see the way he performed and look,
they did it, you know, to start off the game
when they needed to rally back, they rallied back. The
(08:47):
one knock on him is the fumble, and that was
a crucial air in the game on Jalen Hurts. But
other than that, man, he was fantastic. You know, Philly
fans are complaining that they feel like he got hit
in the face when he fumbled that or something. Let
me go back to that place and Here's here's what
I'll say about the idea of the call. The call
(09:09):
mattered at the end of the game because everybody thought
that Jalen Hurts could get them and field goal range
and take them too to overtime. That's not to say
that Kansas City doesn't win in and overtime. I just
think people were so so caught up into the fact
that uh, Jalen was rallying them back. Um. During the
(09:35):
course of that game, nothing, nothing seemed to be insurmountable
except for when they got that first down at the
end of the game. That was the only moment when
the pressure or the the air in the balloon of
this game was just like added there was that call.
(09:55):
The entire way it was like, oh fumble, okay, Oh
they got it back. Oh pat Homes, Oh they got
it back. Oh they had to play. Oh no, they
got it back. Like it was. It was a it
was a very very well played game. It was a
great game until the end. Yeah, it was a great game.
And look there was the penalty call and all that.
But I think for it's pretty crazy to think this
(10:18):
is where we're at because people could say whatever they
want about well, Philly, you know picked Jalen Hurts in
the second round, and they could say whatever they want
about it. The fact of the matter is the discussion
about Jalen Hurts coming into this season and last season
was after they moved on from Carson Wentz. Well, this
is a stop gap quarterback, and we're gonna find a guy.
(10:39):
We just need somebody to sort of get us to
where we need to get to and then we'll find
a guy that if if we need to draft somebody,
this will just be somebody that will get us to
that point. And it has gone from he's a stop
gap quarterback taken in the second round too. Bro, He's
gonna get what fifty million dollars a year. He's a
franchise quarterback. He's gonna get franchise quarter back money. And
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you can have all the discussions you want about, well,
is he better than so and so who's making this
It's his time to get paid. He's going to get paid,
and Philly's gonna have to write a big fat check
for him this season. And all he did was proved
all anybody that had anything positive to say about him
and what he went through in his career and whether
or not he could play at this level. What he
(11:21):
did at that Super Bowl, best player on the field,
and he's absolutely gonna get every penny that he's got
coming to him based on what he did in that
game on Sunday. He was fantastic, man, fair enough, absolutely fantastic.
And some would say, did he get hit in the
face not before he dropped the ball? Yeah, I mean
that's a reach, Philly fans, it's a reach. Now. You
(11:45):
see the problem is you he did get his face
mask at like I'll tell you this, by standard of calls,
you could have called it a face mask, but he
was fumbling before he got hit face regardless. I mean,
that's he erased the play, right, I mean, he erased
(12:08):
the play. But with that being said, and I mean, listen,
Kansas City miss a field goal, right, kNs City miss
a field goal? You get me started on that. You know,
there there were players that were left out there in
this game on both sides. So it was it's just
one of those games where guys, guys were finding a way,
(12:29):
whether it was on the offense side, whether it was
on the defense side. In this game, you saw two
teams that had a resolve to win the game. That's
all you can ask for. It that's all you can
want as a fan of the sport, and if you're
a fan of one of these teams, that's all you
can ask for. It was a disappointing end to the
game for certain but but the game was well played
(12:51):
and and that was not a missed call. And whether
you want to say they should have been calling it
all all game or not, whether you fell on the
side of it was a penalty that should have been
called or not, it doesn't matter. The game was played.
There were chances to win the game and multiple places,
(13:12):
Like you said, he took them down, they got to touchdown.
Then they get a two point conversion, which it looked
like he was about to be stopped on the two
point conversion, and he pushes his way in, knife's his
way into the end zone and gets the two points.
Game on at that point in time, it's just it's
just football, it's the game. It's the they ran out
(13:33):
of time. Unfortunately, the penalty came at a point in
time where ice the game they ran out of town. Like, now,
what happens if they kicked the ball off, they squibbed
the ball and they run it back, you know, like
any that's what we love about football. Anything and everything
can possibly play out and happen in football, and that's
(13:54):
that's just what it is. Let me just say this.
I know Harrison Butker kicked the game winning field goal.
I get all that. Let me tell you something. He
screwed me out of twenty bucks. I had Chiefs first
to score ten and Harrison Butker, who's a modern day
Mike vander Jack who's really good but kind of stinks
sometimes too, goes out there and joints the forty two
(14:17):
yard field goal and Philly goes down and scores, and
he jipped me out of twenty bucks. Harrison Butker did,
so everybody celebrates him and he's riding around on a
float being congratulated because he kicks some gimme at the
end of the Super Bowl to win that game. For him,
Just remember how many people you screwed over when it
comes to money. Who had Chiefs first to ten in
(14:38):
that Super Bowl? And that, really, to me is the
main takeaway from Super Bowl fifty seven, if I do
say so myself. How about that shout out to my
guy Calvin Ridley. I feel your paining, buddy. We all
get screwed sometimes when we want to place a place
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Cam Hayward of the Pittsburgh Steelers not a big fan
of this Eagles push play, which you asked Albert Brier
about last hour here on the show. And Cam Hayward
was on his podcast, the Not Just Football Podcast, and
he had some strong words about the play. Let's take
a listen. It's illegal and then they're never never said
(16:32):
if you watch it, the old lineman are never set.
He's not happy. I'm triggered. Do you think the rules
should be changed? Yes, it should be changed. And there's
never a given time they hurry up to the ball.
No one's ever said they're rolling forward. I have this
on tape, we can watch it. We can find some
tape on this. I'm always because no, it's always skewed
(16:56):
to the offense. I'm just confused why they switched the rule.
It used to be a penalt need to push your
back forward. Seem like nobody really noticed until the Eagles
were like, oh, this is unstoppable. So there was Cam
Hayward was too annoyed by the other person to even
hear what Cam said. So my my apologies. I didn't
catch on. I didn't catch on anything other than he
(17:18):
they don't get set and it's illegal. Kimes. Not a
fan of Mena Kimes. I'm not a fan of that.
What was going on right there? Sorry, And I don't
even know who that is. I'm not drown to be
a hater or anything, but that would work. That was
so that being said Cam Hayward not a big fan
(17:40):
of the play. And look, this is something I was.
You know, it's funny because I was listening to I
forget what game it was on radio. I got it
was it was later in the season. But Mike Mayock
was on the radio call and he made the point
because there was one of those plays where they did
a push play and it was I think it was
an other team that was doing it. I don't know
(18:01):
that it was the Eagles. It might have been the Eagles,
but there was another there was a team doing it,
and his point was, you know, for a league that's
always concerned about player safety and worried about the safety
of their quarterbacks, why the hell did they think this
is a good idea to have three guys jam your
quarterback in the spine to push him forward to try
and get a first down. Because that's sort of looks
(18:22):
like that. There's times Jalen hurts when he's when he's
being pushed forward, like that's an uncomfortable position to be in,
especially for a guy coming off the injury that he's got.
And it is surprising that this has just been one
of those things to where the NFL is just kind
of I mean, okay, I guess we're just gonna be
all right with it. It's a scrum, rugby scrum almost.
(18:44):
It's this this a scrum, y'all sound like big sissies
Like I can understand the the idea of it being
an unfair advantage. I get that, But I mean you
could scrum. You could you could load up just like
they're loading up. If you're a defender, just pissing you
off when you see that. I will say this, there
(19:06):
is space in between you and the ball, whereas in
scrums and true scrumbs, you already are locked in. Everybody
is locked in, whereas this one is you gotta shoot
in and and and guys are gonna have their heads down.
It is a dangerous proposition, it really is. But it's
(19:28):
wrestling with there's a restart to a match. You start
in that position and then you go there's no there's
no rolling start. You know, you're not getting a head start,
And this one it does feel like there's a little
bit of a head start. If there's a rolling start,
then that is illegal. But if they get down and
they get set and they blow your ass off the ball.
The only thing that we're really sitting here debating is
(19:50):
the quarterback being pushed. That's really it. Yeah, you can't
debate what's taking place up front because and and all actuality.
That's why it's called the trenches. You're in the trenches.
It's called that for a reason. It is a full
contact sport. You have a helmet, you have a face mask,
(20:11):
they have all this technology that they test to make
sure that you're trying to protect body parts and and
and pet body parts and different things like that. You're
not gonna ever get away from totally the brutality of
a full contact sport. I almost feel like football is
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the only sport that everybody which hunts physicality of the sport,
like screw that you line up and and and if
you know what, if they could have ran that play
and won the game, if they could have ran that
play twenty times, that was twenty times they ran that play,
and you could win that game. Then run to play.
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Run it until they say that it's it's illegal and
they're not gonna use it. Run to play. So you
don't have an issue with three players behind Jalen Hurts
pushing him forward. Stop to play, Stop to play. What
if it's just one If you had there, there's one
players allowed, but this three bunched up, you only got
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so much body to push on, Like, do you really
think that three people pushing on a dude, the force
transference from those three dudes is equally going into Jalen
Hurts his body, and Jalen Hurts is just this rag
doll that's being pushed through all of these people through
mass human And I can break it down for you.
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I think the guy in the middle, he's responsible for
Jalen Hurts from the back of his helmet all the
way down to his tailbone, and the other guys have
a clear job. You already get his shoulder blade on
the right and his shoulder blade on the left, and
then you latch on and then you guys shove him forward.
May I ask you a question, what's are those grown
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asthmen on the other side of where he's being pushed as? Okay,
so that's it for me, So why can't you push them?
Why what's stopping the other side from pushing the front
and back to take the middle linebacker and have three guys.
I thought it was excellent. I thought it was excellent
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in the sense that you're demoralizing that defensive front. You're
demoralizing them, like that's That's what I was thinking when
I was watching the game. I'm like you, we said that.
This is what This is what I said. I don't
want to speak for everyone else. I said going into
this game, one of the biggest differences in this game
is going to be the physicality of the offensive and
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defensive fronts of the Philadelphia Eagles. They are going to
be too physical for Kansas City. And in those moments,
you saw the physicality that differentiate the differentia differential and
in the strength of of the offensive line of Philly
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versus the strength of of the Kansas City Chief defensive front.
You saw the difference every single time. So if we're
saying because if you look at it, they were blowing,
they were blowing Kansas City off the ball. Listen, they've
been doing it all year. The place unstoppable. They've been
doing it all year. But it is stoppable. If you
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have a Keith Trailer and a Tet Washington and you
have guys in there, that's why you have That's why
you have the ability to to substitute when the offense substitutes.
If you get in to that tank personnel on the field,
you are able to put in tank personnel to match
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that gold line personnel, whatever you wanna call it. You
match the physicality and the size and the girth of
what's taking place up front. That's where it all starts,
and that's where it all ends. As far as they
eyes being behind them and pushing them. If there's no
push up front, I don't give a good gosh darn.
If there's a running back, you think Reggie Bush is
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pushing Matt Liner through a massive line of humanity. If
them boys is pushing like like, you got guys that
are bench pressing five hundreds some plus pounds, squatting x
amount of weight, thousands of pounds, like, I'm not trying
to hear that. Either you you went up front, or
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you lose up front. And and the only time the
quarterback begins to matter is if the line of scrimmage moves.
The line of scrimmage has to move. So when that
ball is snapped, whoever wins down there and them trenches
you versus me, that is one on one blocking. You
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get into the gap, you get into the gap, you're
pushing this guy. You're pushing this guy. And it's the
same exact thing for both sides of the ball. So
if they're strong enough to blow you two, three or
four yards off the ball and they're pushing Jalen hurts
extra yard or extra couple of inches or whatever it
may be, you've already lost. You've already lost the front. Now,
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while I'll sit there and say, I understand that there
could be health concerns about it, but to say it's
an unstoppable play, I would I would argue that. I
would argue that, And also I think is it a
safe play. Maybe it's not a safe place. And I
think part of this as well to Cam Hayward. I mean,
you know who his dad was, iron Headyward. That's a
guy who didn't need a push from behind. Iron Head
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Hayward put his head down and people went night night.
Remember Mark, Remember Mark Bavarro. Nobody was pushing Mark Bavaro
from behind. He was just carrying dude. That's how it
was back in the day. Well, that's fine. I prefer
you know, doing it yourself. I'm just saying, whether you
like it or not. You know who had to do
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it themselves. The lineman, them lineman that was pushing them
boys all the way back every single time in that game,
Like figure it out, do you slant, do you get
a heavier guy in there? Whatever it is you need
to do. That's a mono a mind. That's like sumo wrestling,
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Like I gotta hold of you, you gotta hold of me.
You don't have to go backwards. The Eagles players weren't
going backwards. Why weren't they going backwards? Why? Because they
know the snapdout it's probably first sound. If it ain't
first sound, they're trying to draw you off sides or
they run the risk of jumping off sides. They're not
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going to do that. It's going on first sound. Get
your ass down, get your ass ready, and push. Push
you know who, you know, you know who was pushing
Kelsey Eagles line, pushing back first down every time. Say
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it with your chess. By the way, when you mentioned
Keith Trailer and Ted Washington, yes, how about the fact
that they were both on the same defensive line Chicago. Okay, Now,
ain't nobody moving them? You want to know what ray
Lewis was doing. What he was doing. Ain't nobody moving
the Goose and Sam Adams you ever see them, Dude,
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you're not moving them. And then you go to the
outside and you got you got uh Peter Bullware on
one side, you got Mike mcquarie on the other side.
You're not dealing. It's the defensive fronts that's gonna make
the difference. If you can't get off of that defensive front,
then everybody behind there had especially in running running defenses,
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everybody's got a chance to do what they need to do.
Everybody's got a chance to do what you need to do. Matt,
that that defensive front for Chicago during that that's that
with uh King Walley. Come on, man, them boys was
out that bad boy Giggan, Alex Brown a B and
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you're talking about Alex Brown and wile A were big
enough to be in terior lineman and they were dwarfed
by trailer and big Tad dwarfed. So I'm not really
into all of that. Like you start thinking about dudes
like Gilbert Brown, the grave Digger. You start thinking about
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dudes that you you put Jerry Ball, you know, like
the race Seals, the you know, I'm from Pittsburgh, so
and you're thinking about like, you know, big big hassle
rig and all those guys that that you put in
the center of a line, and all their job is
to do is to take two dudes and push them back.
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That's your only job, take two dudes and push them back.
If you don't have nobody like that on your defensive front,
I'm sorry. You got Chris Jones. How did not joint LaVar?
Leaping cats? Like, hey, out there leaping over the line.
You're not gonna push nobody back leaping over the line.
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That's your interior line. You're a linebacker. I can see
your linebacker leaping over You got a defense, a three
technique of zero technique, tiving over the ball. They had
no hope. To me, that's football. You know what that
said to me. We got these boys, let's line up,
let's strap up. This one of them type games. I'm
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coming to your face. I'm coming to your face. This dude,
you're best player on defense, is leaping over us because
we're too physical for him down low. We're too physical
down here to get him. He got a leap over us.
Let's go our game, our time, own that line. That's
how I look at it. But you know, it's a
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whole lot of cisy talk going on. Listen. It's cool,
it's cool. You want to be soft about it. But
in the end, it is football. So you want to
put a rule in and say it's unfair, it's unfair.
It's unfair. Okay, I get it, it's unfair. I don't
get how it's unfair, but it's unfair. You got a
loving guys, they got eleving guys. You gotta go this way,
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you gotta keep them from going that way. You didn't
keep them from going that way, So what's unfair about that?
You got eleving guys? And most people will say it's
usually eleven on ten because a lot of people don't
include the quarterback. You can include the quarterback from Philly.
That's great, eleven on eleven. What's the problem? You got
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eleving guys versus their eleving guys to stop to play.
You never stopped it, So now everybody's bitching and moaning
and complaining about that is unfair. It's unfair. It's unfair.
Stop the push the dude back. I don't care if
you're the only one that pushes him back. If it
didn't work because somebody else, then figure it out with
that guy. But don't you be the guy that's getting
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your ass. Drove the hell up off of the ball.
Drop the ball, carry drop, drive your lineman back. If
you're the point of the defense and you can drive
that center back, you drive the center back. There isn't
but so much you can do in that that situation. Anyway,
you're going in one or two or zero hole. One
two or zero hole. You might try to squirt through
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the three or the four hole. You might and that's
a risk. That's a risk. You're going you're going one
step to the left or one step to the right.
And you're going down to try to push forward, and
you're telling me that's too hard, that's dangerous, that isn't sure,
it might be dangerous. Football is dangerous. All right, it's
coming up next. Somebody made a fine play, a fine
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Oh yeah, Julio. I don't know what I thought I
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What about the tall bottle? Yeah? Yeah, the brown one?
It's only even better than that one though, it's like
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I'm why not right. We get one one time a
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the progressive play of the day. The moment I saw
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a mom is when I got really emotional because man,
it was so awesome. It was all right now. Oh man,
it was awesome for you know that she was at
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the top of the world for for a week. She
was the heavyweight chair man. She was on top of it,
and she shined the whole time. Man. That was that
was the coolest part Mom, you absolutely killed it. Dad,
You've been killing it. Yep. It was just so cool
man to see uh, you know, her get to celebrate
in that with us. I'm with your brother. It was
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an awesome moment. Just so happy for her and so
happy that you know, she got her moment, Dad got his.
So yeah, I was the only ironically, you know, if
you lose the Super Bowl and you're you're crying after
the game, and they're not tears of sadness, you know,
their tears of joy. That was from the New Heights podcast.
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That was Jason Kelsey and Travis Kelsey obviously talking about
their experience from the super Bowl. That is our progressive
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that they love each other so much, man. I think
it's the dopest thing ever. Like family to me is
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the best thing ever in life. Man. There's nothing greater,
nothing more than the love of family life. Just to
have that type of emotion and that feeling like that's
that's that's I mean that is a play of a day,
that's a that's a play of a lifetime, you know,
to give that to deliver that type of accomplishment as brothers,
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like the all you can hope for as a parent
is that you prepare your kids for life post your
you know, like being around me, like I'm I'm preparing
you for when you're not around me for when I'm
not around. I want you to be able to live
a productive life. You have children who are achieving at
the level that that the Kelsey brothers have achieved, that
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they show that they have the work ethic, they show
that they're amazing young men. And for him is tough
and as hard nosed that we were just talking about tough,
hard nosed dudes. For him to be so god dangned tough,
but to be vulnerable enough to be loving and happening
in the moment that he had with his mom and
what that represented for his family and his dad and
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his brother like, hats off, man, I got even more
respect for for the Kelsey family. And and it's also
what's cool about it is just to see the fact
that she got her shine that in a moment where
they were being celebrated she was the one who really
got celebrated, which is pretty cool. Super fire congratulations Mama Kelsey.
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