June 23, 2022 • 38 mins
Jonas and LaVar recap the House Oversight Committee Hearing with Roger Goodell and Senior NFL Reporter Albert Breer breaks down the consequences for the NFL, Dan Snyder and the Washington Commanders. Plus, the return of the Patriots red throwback jerseys, the Browns Super Bowl odds improve and Amber Heard in talks for a tell-all book on The Scraps.
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bit right, didn't make you feel bad? A little bit,
a little more aggression that worked. Wake some people up
and own that ye own age. Yeah, I agree. Uh.
Now we've we've talking about your your former team, the
Washington Commandos slash football team slash name. We can't say
anymore because um it's get in trouble. It's not proper
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to say that I used to play for the Washington Ridskins. Yeah. So, uh,
you're the only one that could say that. I can't
say it though it's weird. I worked for them, like
that was my job. So it's changed. It's since changed,
but that is formerly the team known as the Washington
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Ridskins and their their logo the old logos gone correct,
it's just the w Yes interesting, yeah, but they're far
from getting now. Yeah. Well, I mean Ron Rivera after
yesterday the uh you know, the the speaking Roger Goodell
being interviewed by the House Committee and trying to explain,
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you know, why Dan Snyder is still an owner and uh,
you know, does he have the power to to to
get rid of Dan Snyder and all the other things
to go along with it. Was a Roger Goodell got
chewed up and spit out, you know, by being interviewed there.
And that's part of the reason why he gets paid
what he gets paid. So we can take the bullets,
the proverbial bullets for the owners. Um and Ron Riverez
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talked about how when he got to Washington and he
sent out a notice saying, you know, I want to
be clear, Uh, these were all things that happened before
I got here. He doesn't want he wants no part
of this entire thing, and and wanted to point out that. Uh,
you know, Jason Wright was brought in. They've they've been
working on changing the culture. They're trying to to improve
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on the football field. I just wonder this, and you
would know it from being there with all of this
crap up top. That's just pure chaos and every like
it seems like every couple of months there's another story
that comes out, or another issue that pops up, or
something else that's Washington related. Don't as a player, don't
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you hear all that crap? So like, how does that
not a act this team and Ron Rivera's they try
and get ready for a season with training camp starting
a month from now. It does, Like I just there's
no other way that it does impact and affect the players.
It does. That's part of the reason why you don't
have a stable work environment. But now it's out in
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the open. Like imagine if that dysfunction was playing out
and no one was talking about it. That is even
something that plays out and the impacts the players in
the locker room and on the field as well. Well.
You were there at the time when it wasn't being
talked about public kind of was talked about in a way,
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but not out in the open, So it was like
it was discussed differently, things were handled differently. There was
actually maybe the debate of one way or the other.
Was it accurate? Was it not accurate? You know, just
a lot of a lot of uncertainty surrounding it. Lot
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of people you know that are speaking now, Like when
I had that whole my my strong take on on
r G three coming out and saying he's going to
write a book about surviving DC. At that point in time,
everyone was talking about it. It was all public domain
at that point. Before then it was it was bad
as hell, but it wasn't out there in in the
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public and being consumed the way it is now. So
it's very different. The look and feel of it is
very different. I would assume it's probably harder now than
it would have been back when I was there, for
the simple fact that you can't you can't escape what
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the scrutiny, what what the focuses are on on the team.
So you're looking at it from an angle of your
not you're not paying attention to Washington to see if
they Jim win. You're paying attention to Washington to see
what's the next biggest story that comes out on how
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things are being handled the part. And I feel bad
for Ron Rivera in this regard um he's no matter what,
he can try and distance himself from all the craft
that happened before he got there. But there's a stigma
that's attached to Washington and a stigma that attached to
to anything that that even comes close to Dan Snyder.
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And I don't know that you ever get rid of it.
And I'm not saying that this is on the same
level as as this, because this is a much more
serious issue and and I think, you know, a terrible
and sad issue, but like Penn State, like you had
nothing to do with all that crap at Penn State.
Yet there's a stigma that's never going to leave ever. Well,
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I'll say this, there will always be a connection. I
won't say that there's a stigma that that it's this
Penn State, but there is that is a a tremendous,
unremovable blemish that will always be there. One Now, I
don't I do not look at this scenario is this
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is definitely not an apples to apples um, you know,
dysfunction and and being too aggressive and doing the things
that that they're being accused of and what's taking place.
One is wrong and and it's it's viewed a certain
type of way, but this is this is clearly connected
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to one person and one person that's actions, and that's clear.
In the Penn State scenario, it's almost like people detoured
away from the guy that was doing all of the craziness,
and we're attacking Joe and making Joe culpable for what
took place. It was like it was more so about
being a well to go after Joe and and make
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it a thing about him and what was going on
at Penn State versus the person that was in the wrong.
Whereas for Washington, the person in the wrong is the
league guy. He is the person that they would detour
to go to, like if it was someone else. Like
you saw all of these different officials leave, like Bruce, Bruce, Uh,
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what's Bruce's Bruce Allen he left. That's one the reason
why he left. Larry Michael he left. That's one the
reason why he left. Dennis Green, that's one percent the
reason why he left. Anybody else that you're hearing that
left that we're in positions of power, that's why they left.
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I mean, look, this doesn't get talked about a lot,
but I mean they threw Scott mccluan the reason why
he left. It went from I I still because I
remember talking about this um on my over and I
show years ago. But I remember the article that came
out in which they described Scott mccluan's drinking and all
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the issues they had with Scott McCluin, and it was
almost like I'm reading I'm reading the article and it
was like Bruce Allen was throwing him under the bus,
only to also get thrown under the bus years later.
Bruce Allen probably threw him under the bus because he
was probably more intoxicated than than McClellan was, and probably
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wasn't thinking in his right mind when he was throwing
him under the bus, like Bruce, Bruce Allen. You when
I used to see Bruce Allen, and it's like I
used to want to like touch his like like he
he just looked like if you if you pressed on
his skin, the alcohol would come out. He like he
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looked he always looked so saturated. There there was so
one of the I remember the details in in the article.
And I don't know why I still remember this, but
I remember one of the d tails in the article
was it was not uncommon to walk around the Washington Um,
you know, facility and see cores, light, hands line around.
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It was not, it was I don't know about all that.
I just know that every event that I went to
Bruce was fried, fried, Fried, and you'd always say, LaVar,
don't talk too long. So there you go to all
the Twitter people out there, don't talk too long. But
it's just like, see, there's just such a trickle down
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and such a pattern. And it goes back to the
to the original question that we asked to start, like, alright,
so so what did we learn yesterday that we didn't
already know. I think that we didn't know that there
was a settlement out there. And it just continues to
chip away at the narrative of being able to just
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walk away from everything that's taken place and him continue
to be the owner of the team. I think that
this now with with every single piece of information that
comes to the forefront that shines continues to shine a
less than flattering light on the Washington organization and on
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in particular and specific the owner. It raises the conversation
and it raises concern in terms of the entire hole.
And and that's what we're learning. What we're learning is
is that this is now. This is now Congress, right,
that's Congress that that that did that wants to do
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this audit and wants to to make sure that things
are what they're supposed to be. And if I'm reading
it correctly, again, if you don't do what you're supposed
to do with this one, if you don't handle this
one the way that you're supposed to handle it, then
why should Congress or anybody else feel like you're handling
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it the right way with with any of them. And
and not to say that everybody's handling things the way
Dan Snyder is, but you know, why would you put
put your I don't want to say put your trust,
that's too strong. But if if again, you're marketing this
as uh to your to your fan base, to your clientele,
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that this is a family oriented business and that's our clientele,
that's who we're entertaining, then why do we believe the
Place sixties campaigns? Why do we believe the heads up campaigns?
Why do we believe the No More campaigns? Why do
we believe all of these campaigns that are are launched
by the National Football League, but your owners are out
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here running a muck like it's it kind of becomes
damning information, and it's like, if that's your standard and
you're not holding this one to that standard, that means
you're not holding any of them to that standard. I
think that yesterday was bad for Deshaun Watson in this regard.
I think Roger Goodell came off looking like he was yeah,
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weak and a guy who lets you know, this sort
of stuff happened under his wash. Is it let or
is it I can't do anything like to me, I
took away from what he said, but I can't do
anything like like, what do you want me to do?
I can't do anything. Well, I mean, I can't remove him.
I don't have the power to he He also lied,
he taught you know, they asked him about Dave portnoy
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Barstool Sports being uh, you know, and and and he lied.
He was the reason why portnoy is is banned from
you know, from attending NFL games. So there's that. So
he just it wasn't a good look. And this is
going to be the classic overcorrection. He looked bad yesterday,
not not being able to take care of and handle
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an issue that's been in front of his face and
well known and documented at this point for years and years.
So now is he actually going to take a lighter
approach in punishing DeShawn Watson with all the things going on,
I think he's gonna get even more aggressive. I think
he's gonna overcurst. I think that what you're saying it
works against Roger Goodell because it's like, oh, you're gonna
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pick on the little man. You're gonna look, you're gonna
pick on the little guy. And and regardless of what
side you fall on with the Deshaun Watsondale, if you
think he's a scumbag or not or innocent until proven
guilty or he's he's he may have done something wrong,
but it's not enough wrong where he could be tried
for it. Uh, criminal league. Whatever opinion you have of it,
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you have that. But as far as what Roger Goodell
and how he punishes Deshaun Watson, it now I think
is the opposite. I think it puts more pressure on
Roger Goodell to figure out what he is going to
do as it applies to Dan Snyder and how the
the Deshaum Watson situation can actually be and has been
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being used as an example of if if if the ownership,
if the ownership of of these teams are able to
do what they want to do and only get minimum
punishments finds whatever loss of draft picks, and and that's
what it is and how you guys are governing ownership.
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Then if you're going to drop the hammer on a player,
that's going to create an entirely different conversation to the
fan base, to the employees, the players themselves, like this
double standard that exists, which there is a different standard
because they're the owners. But the idea of it is
is that you're in a an environment of straight up
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bona fide, blatant hypocrisy. And that's like there are a
lot of conversations that could come out of what happens
with Daniel Snyder versus what happens with uh, you know,
with with the Shawn Watson. It's two pros and a
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Two Pros and a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn,
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Heart Radio. Right now, Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter at
the mm qb FFL Insider. You get them on Twitter
at Albert Brier. Albert, what's happening? How's your Thursday? These Briers? Good,
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good good. I'm shradling traffic now with that, Albert, how
does it feel to officially reference yourself as the Albert Rear?
I mean, I mean is that your thing now? Is
that Albert is technically the Pennsylvantates Pennsylvania State University. That's
(17:13):
what that is the official like, which is interesting because
like that's what we are, the Pennsylvania State State University.
So it'd be interesting. Will we still be able to
say the Pennsylvania State University? So Albert for people that
the check, you'll be able to because you gotta stop
using a lot for people that are that are not familiar.
(17:37):
We were talking about this earlier, obviously albert A Ohio
State alum. But you guys received trademark on the word
the so now on T shirts, hats, things like that,
you can just have the word the I feel like
though those have probably already existed in Columbus, if I'm
not mistaken, they did. Yeah, they have T shirts and
hats and I've never owned one, so I think it
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looks kind of weird, to be honest with you, but
uh hey, like if it brings in some more money
for the school, and if Penn State has to pay
to have that on their signage, you know what's interesting
about you taking digs at Penn Stay here's my dig
for you. What what exactly is brutus? What? What what
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is the what is the mascot? What exactly is that
that Ohio State is? It's like it's like a dude
with a big nut friend, right exactly. I'm glad that
you walked right into my dig because now that big
nut on his head, Now you put that on T
shirts and and and and hats and all kinds of
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apparel and stuff like that, and you sell it. If
you put more than one of those brutuses up there
and you add your your trademark V to it, guess
what you got. That's just unbelievable. Hey, by the way, Albert,
just to give you, you know, our don't be plural.
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You are back on in Columbus, by the way, because
we did pick up a brand new affiliate, the all
new Fox Sports Columbus, the home of the Columbus Clippers.
They are now, you know, friends of the program and
part of the family, so they'll get to hear Albert
every single week with us here on FS are so
one of the great Ohio state alums. Um, what is next, Albert?
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When it comes to the uh Washington Commandos slash commanders
and and Dan Snyder and whatever whatever you call that.
Yesterday on which Roger Goodell really earned his money as
he got buried by questions from the US House Oversight Committee,
what happens. Now. Now we we've got all this stuff,
they say they're going to subpoena Dan Snyder. What's the
(19:52):
next step in all this, Well, I mean, obviously at
the next step would be, you know, like seeing's issued
and and his testimony be interesting. I don't think we've
heard him speak publicly really, um, you know since the
you know what hit the fan a couple of years ago.
So um, I mean, I think that's obviously gonna be
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really interesting theater um. And you know, after that, Like
I I mean, look like I think the NFL, to
some degree it's the ball is gonna be in their court,
and I you know, like I feel like the the
owners are gonna do everything they can two avoid having
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to vote them out, but maybe somehow getting him out
because I do think that there is sentiment within the
the group of owners that what's gone on here isn't
good for anybody. And you know, like, and it's gonna
and if it continues to happen this way, um, They're
continues the information getting out um, and dance Center continues
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to treat people this way, it's gonna reflect that on
every and so to me, like the real turning point
was when Rogers started talking openly about the process for
voting an owner out back in February. UM. Now I
feel like he's reeled it back in a little bit
since then. But the fact of the matter is none
of these guys want the president set that they voted
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somebody else out. Um. I also think that there's some
level of fear probably there that if they do vote
him out, could there be an airing of dirty laundry? So,
you know, I think what you'll probably see over the
next few months is a temperature continuing to rise on
Dan Snyder, and the question is whether or not it
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could ever get hot enough for him actually has sell
the team on his own a B. So, so now
you got to think the heart, the rock in the
heart place is you. You're looking at the commissioner and
and how he has to handle things with the other owners.
He's looking at the the you know, with Congress and
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and what he has to handle with with that committee.
It's seemingly as one of everything that you said. But
but how much can this committee dictate? How much can
they do? Because I would have to think that there
would have to be a lot of of I guess
ability to take action in order for this to really
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really matter and the owners and Goodell to concern themselves
with what this committee may do and doing these subpoenas
and doing these uh you know, uh, what's the the
audits of what's what's taking place? How does that work?
Can can you do you have that? Like? Can you
explain that a little bit better so that us layman's
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can understand what why is this so significant with with
this committee coming after or or wanting to know what's
being done with with Dan Snyder? Sure? I mean, like, well,
I add the two sides to it. Like everything else
in this country, it seems you know which I mean.
One side of it is like that this reflects a
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bigger problem in America, and that like if the NFL
isn't gonna take action on a high profile business operating
this way, than somebody has to, and that maybe if
they can take action against the high profile business like this,
or they can pressure and force change with a high
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profile business like this, um, then that will lead to
greater change in America. The way women are treated in
the office, the way that the workplace you know, operates
in general in America. That's one side of it. The
other side of it is we have so many issues
in this country right now, and that this is a
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private business, and that a lot of this stuff has
already been addressed internally, and so why are we dealing
with this if we're Congress right. So those are the
two sides of the argument, um. You know, and again,
like everything else in America now, foul lines have been
drawn here. As far as what kind of action Congress
could take against Snyder, I'm not sure, um, exactly how
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much change they could affect beyond what's already happened. I
don't know they could force him to sell the team. UM.
Do I think they could, you know, put pressure on
the league to do something because of the antitrust exemption,
which is you know, Congress is leverage point with all
sports leagues. Um. Yeah, I think they could put some
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pressure on the NFL to take further action against Dan Snyder.
And I think part of that is, you know why
they called Roger Goodell to testify in this case too, um.
And so you know, specifically, what action can you know,
the House Oversight Committee take? I'm not clear on that, um,
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But I do think that there's a mechanism there through
the n I trust exemption where they can put pressure
on the NFL um you know, as a whole, to
take more action than they already have against Snyder. Yeah,
because it does seem like he, I mean, Dan Snyder
blows off the meeting, said he had an appointment he
couldn't get out of. I mean it's like, is this
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formality driven? You know what I mean? Like that's what
it makes me feel, like this is formality driven, not
not result or or a consequence driven type of deal
that's going on right now. Yeah, Like again, like I
and and I don't think that I don't think that
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Congress takes it lightly that Like the dude was on
a yacht in France, Like, wow, this is all going on,
you know. I mean I I think that there's the
opics of that aren't great. And so like I I
get like the level of consequence that could come here,
you know, I some sort of voluntary fine um. You know,
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like I don't know exactly what the consequence would be
here other than you know, again like the Congress threatening
the NFL's antitrust exemption, which is a very very big
deal and trying to use that as sort of a
lever to get you know the league to take more
action against Snyder, And I mean, I think certainly there's
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no question that. Um. You know, like if if the
if the if Congress does want to go down that path,
there it won't just be Congress pressuring Goodell to do something.
I think you'd get other owners involved in pressuring Goodell
to do more than to get him on Twitter at
Albert Brier alber Brier, Senior NFL reporter at the mm
(26:46):
qb Um, So we're gonna ask you the same canned
answer that we've been asking you every single week this
entire offseason. Where do we stand now on Deshaun Watson?
Any update? Was this a good week? Him settling a
twenty of twenty four civil suits? Where do we stand? Well?
I don't know. If I term it as a good week,
I would say I would say it like brings it
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a little close to the closure UM, and it makes
I would say, finding some closure in this um on
an expedite of timeline more realistic. Yeah. The bottom line
is if you know these things remained open when we
get to August first, there's more moratorium that's already been
agreed to where this would just you know, basically be paused,
(27:30):
and then March one, the cases would start up again,
and a lot of the things that have happened over
the last few weeks you would see playing out in
court again. Then. So the fact that twenty of the
twenty four lawsuits have been settled, I think moves you
closer to a place where you can say, okay, regardless
of what happened, and you know you can't take that
(27:52):
part out of it, of course, but regardless of you
know who was right and who was wrong. Here you're
getting a little bit closer to a place now where
the NFL can feel comfortable making a decision that could
well be the final decision as far as what his
punishment is. Whereas if you didn't have UM, if you
didn't have closure, I think it would have been more
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like or if you didn't have the settlements, I think
it would have been more likely that you would have gotten,
say a six game and eight game of full season suspension,
with the NFL leaving it open ended and saying we
reserve the right to alter the punishment based on any
new information that becomes available going forward, and I still
think the NFL is gonna give itself that wiggo room
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but when cases are now closed and there are confidentiality
agreements in place, it becomes a lot less likely that
we're gonna get November or December or February or March,
and the NFL is going to have to add on
to whatever punishment is gonna leve you in the next month.
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Get him on Twitter at Albert Breer, Senior m q V. Albert,
we appreciate it. I know you've been doing radio all morning,
so we appreciate a few minutes of your time and
thanks hanging out with us. Man. Yeah, I there's some
royalties on that. The Albert Brier now I think, Yeah,
we gotta do it. Thanks Albert. We're doing it again
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just can you just say that? Damn but not me?
For Christ's sake, that's time for this. How could you
not get to these stories? Are there? Scraps lead the lab? Sorry?
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I was hearing about a horse lead the lab? What
do we got going on? Guys? Yesterday the New England
Patriots unveiled that well revealed that they're going to be
bringing back the alternate red jerseys. A tidbit on this
is that they actually pushed for a change in the
NFL rules in order to make this happen, because up
until the season, the NFL said you couldn't change your helmets.
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You had to keep one helmet for safety reasons. But
they led the charge and changing that rule so now
they could go back to their alternate old Red jerseys.
I mean, one of my favorite jerseys from back in
the day are those retro Patriots jersey where they had
that guy in the three point stands? Is that guy
like an actual Patriot and a three point stands on
his helmet? Patriot? God? Okay, you want to know what
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when I think of those jerseys, when I think of, um,
do you remember Andre Tippett? All right? So I I
remember I was obsessed with starting lineups, those action figures,
those foot and it didn't matter who the team was.
I just wanted to collect as as many as I
could so I would save up money, whatever money I
could get. I remember buying an Andre Tippet starting lineup
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and it was in the red jersey with the hat.
I could never figure out, is that is that a Patriot?
It's like a center. He's like he's snapping a ball.
He's holding the ball. I believe, isn't he holding the ball?
I think? So? I believe he's a center? God? Man,
those are those retro jerseys back in the day. Like,
what was your favorite jersey growing up? Other than it
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can't be the Steelers. Other than the Steelers, there was
nothing else you didn't respect, like the old giants, like
the across the helmet, the old giants like Lawrence Taylor.
I'm as a fan of the game. I like, I
like when guys go back to retro uniforms. I am
not a fan of the Tampa Bay retro popsicle. You're not, No,
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I'm not. I think it looks weird. I'm not a
fan of it. But I do like retro uniforms. But
I'm just a Steelers fan, you know. I mean, look,
think about I went to Penn State, Like, look at
a retro uniform, which I never knew. They had a
retro uniform where they had a line on a blue
stripe on the pants and a number on the side
of the helmet and white shoes, which I thought is fly.
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I wish I could award that uniform. Did they sell
LaVar Arrington number eleven jerseys? They sell eleven jerseys. That's
the cool thing about it for for Penn State is
you know you don't have to You could get away
with and not being connected to a player because there's
no names on the back. Yeah, it's kind of a
kind of a fun little trick they got there because
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no name all. Who are the elevens? It's you, Brandon Bill, uh, well,
all of them, Brandon Bill, Kyrie fort Um, Michael Parsons.
And and now we got a new one out there
now as well. So but I'll leave him nameless for now.
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I gave him my blessing, but I ain't gonna put
him out there yet. And and like obviously you guys
are battling for second to Matt mcloy for the numberless
that's on the offensive side of the ball. There have
been plenty of elevens on the other side of the
ball as well. Yeah, and I'm I'm loving the fact
that bird Oh sitting there like with a smirk on
his face saying, yeah, that's that's fair enough. After mcglowan
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is are right, he's people. Uh what else we got
late fellas. The Browns saw their Super Bowl odds increase
following the news of Deshaun Watson settlements. They've improved from
twenty five from shot to now being viewed as a
twenty one contenders. They've also have their A f C
odds moved to ten to one. Okay, what about the
wind totals? Are wind totals out of the Brown jecks?
I know they've been trying to keep those close to
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the best. Yeah, I got news right there. Not because
in a lot of places nobody knows what the hell
is going to happen, and they're not willing to roll
the dice on a wind total when Jacoby Brissett is
going to be starting. Interesting that the settlements moved the
line though, because I don't I think it's like interesting.
He has so many cases that four doesn't even seem
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like a lot. If it wasn't so many cases, you
would still be like, man, there's four out there. Yeah,
one's enough everyone, thank you. Let's be clear. One is enough.
There are theories that either Vegas knows what the suspension
is that's coming down, or that just a lot of
money came in on the Browns after these settlements and
so moved the lines. Yeah, it was probably that, But
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I do want to give a DraftKings credit. They had
Deshaun Watson as the runner up as far as odds
go for Comeback Player of the Year. It was Derrick
Henry sitting atop and followed by Deshaun Watson. He's now
been moved all the way down the list because I
think DraftKings realized nobody's biting on the fact that this
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guy is going to be rewarded with Comeback Player of
the Year. When you asked the question, what's he coming
back from? Well, I don't know, yeah, towel hoarding, like
like you name it. What what is he coming back from?
There's a lot of yeah. So, um, you know, there's
there's a lot with that story. But good for DraftKings.
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What else? Lee fellas Amber heard after losing her defamation
trial to her ex Johnny Depp is now and talks
to read to tell all book about this about the case,
about the case. Well, I wonder because you can't really
of fame him again, can you. I mean, I'd imagine
that would be against that would be bad news for her.
So this is more about the case. So she crapped
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in a bed case closed. Well, if you write about
why you craft in the bit, people be interested in it.
I might want to know. That's just like, that's it. Well,
that's that's a weird, weird club to be in. You know,
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bit right, didn't make you feel bad? A little bit,
a little more aggression that worked. Wake some people up
and own that ye own age. Yeah, I agree. Uh.
Now we've we've talking about your your former team, the
Washington Commandos slash football team slash name. We can't say
anymore because um it's get in trouble. It's not proper
(02:10):
to say that I used to play for the Washington Ridskins. Yeah. So, uh,
you're the only one that could say that. I can't
say it though it's weird. I worked for them, like
that was my job. So it's changed. It's since changed,
but that is formerly the team known as the Washington
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Ridskins and their their logo the old logos gone correct,
it's just the w Yes interesting, yeah, but they're far
from getting now. Yeah. Well, I mean Ron Rivera after
yesterday the uh you know, the the speaking Roger Goodell
being interviewed by the House Committee and trying to explain,
(02:53):
you know, why Dan Snyder is still an owner and uh,
you know, does he have the power to to to
get rid of Dan Snyder and all the other things
to go along with it. Was a Roger Goodell got
chewed up and spit out, you know, by being interviewed there.
And that's part of the reason why he gets paid
what he gets paid. So we can take the bullets,
the proverbial bullets for the owners. Um and Ron Riverez
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talked about how when he got to Washington and he
sent out a notice saying, you know, I want to
be clear, Uh, these were all things that happened before
I got here. He doesn't want he wants no part
of this entire thing, and and wanted to point out that. Uh,
you know, Jason Wright was brought in. They've they've been
working on changing the culture. They're trying to to improve
(03:36):
on the football field. I just wonder this, and you
would know it from being there with all of this
crap up top. That's just pure chaos and every like
it seems like every couple of months there's another story
that comes out, or another issue that pops up, or
something else that's Washington related. Don't as a player, don't
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you hear all that crap? So like, how does that
not a act this team and Ron Rivera's they try
and get ready for a season with training camp starting
a month from now. It does, Like I just there's
no other way that it does impact and affect the players.
It does. That's part of the reason why you don't
have a stable work environment. But now it's out in
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the open. Like imagine if that dysfunction was playing out
and no one was talking about it. That is even
something that plays out and the impacts the players in
the locker room and on the field as well. Well.
You were there at the time when it wasn't being
talked about public kind of was talked about in a way,
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but not out in the open, So it was like
it was discussed differently, things were handled differently. There was
actually maybe the debate of one way or the other.
Was it accurate? Was it not accurate? You know, just
a lot of a lot of uncertainty surrounding it. Lot
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of people you know that are speaking now, Like when
I had that whole my my strong take on on
r G three coming out and saying he's going to
write a book about surviving DC. At that point in time,
everyone was talking about it. It was all public domain
at that point. Before then it was it was bad
as hell, but it wasn't out there in in the
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public and being consumed the way it is now. So
it's very different. The look and feel of it is
very different. I would assume it's probably harder now than
it would have been back when I was there, for
the simple fact that you can't you can't escape what
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the scrutiny, what what the focuses are on on the team.
So you're looking at it from an angle of your
not you're not paying attention to Washington to see if
they Jim win. You're paying attention to Washington to see
what's the next biggest story that comes out on how
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things are being handled the part. And I feel bad
for Ron Rivera in this regard um he's no matter what,
he can try and distance himself from all the craft
that happened before he got there. But there's a stigma
that's attached to Washington and a stigma that attached to
to anything that that even comes close to Dan Snyder.
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And I don't know that you ever get rid of it.
And I'm not saying that this is on the same
level as as this, because this is a much more
serious issue and and I think, you know, a terrible
and sad issue, but like Penn State, like you had
nothing to do with all that crap at Penn State.
Yet there's a stigma that's never going to leave ever. Well,
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I'll say this, there will always be a connection. I
won't say that there's a stigma that that it's this
Penn State, but there is that is a a tremendous,
unremovable blemish that will always be there. One Now, I
don't I do not look at this scenario is this
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is definitely not an apples to apples um, you know,
dysfunction and and being too aggressive and doing the things
that that they're being accused of and what's taking place.
One is wrong and and it's it's viewed a certain
type of way, but this is this is clearly connected
(07:39):
to one person and one person that's actions, and that's clear.
In the Penn State scenario, it's almost like people detoured
away from the guy that was doing all of the craziness,
and we're attacking Joe and making Joe culpable for what
took place. It was like it was more so about
being a well to go after Joe and and make
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it a thing about him and what was going on
at Penn State versus the person that was in the wrong.
Whereas for Washington, the person in the wrong is the
league guy. He is the person that they would detour
to go to, like if it was someone else. Like
you saw all of these different officials leave, like Bruce, Bruce, Uh,
(08:23):
what's Bruce's Bruce Allen he left. That's one the reason
why he left. Larry Michael he left. That's one the
reason why he left. Dennis Green, that's one percent the
reason why he left. Anybody else that you're hearing that
left that we're in positions of power, that's why they left.
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I mean, look, this doesn't get talked about a lot,
but I mean they threw Scott mccluan the reason why
he left. It went from I I still because I
remember talking about this um on my over and I
show years ago. But I remember the article that came
out in which they described Scott mccluan's drinking and all
(09:05):
the issues they had with Scott McCluin, and it was
almost like I'm reading I'm reading the article and it
was like Bruce Allen was throwing him under the bus,
only to also get thrown under the bus years later.
Bruce Allen probably threw him under the bus because he
was probably more intoxicated than than McClellan was, and probably
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wasn't thinking in his right mind when he was throwing
him under the bus, like Bruce, Bruce Allen. You when
I used to see Bruce Allen, and it's like I
used to want to like touch his like like he
he just looked like if you if you pressed on
his skin, the alcohol would come out. He like he
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looked he always looked so saturated. There there was so
one of the I remember the details in in the article.
And I don't know why I still remember this, but
I remember one of the d tails in the article
was it was not uncommon to walk around the Washington Um,
you know, facility and see cores, light, hands line around.
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It was not, it was I don't know about all that.
I just know that every event that I went to
Bruce was fried, fried, Fried, and you'd always say, LaVar,
don't talk too long. So there you go to all
the Twitter people out there, don't talk too long. But
it's just like, see, there's just such a trickle down
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and such a pattern. And it goes back to the
to the original question that we asked to start, like, alright,
so so what did we learn yesterday that we didn't
already know. I think that we didn't know that there
was a settlement out there. And it just continues to
chip away at the narrative of being able to just
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walk away from everything that's taken place and him continue
to be the owner of the team. I think that
this now with with every single piece of information that
comes to the forefront that shines continues to shine a
less than flattering light on the Washington organization and on
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in particular and specific the owner. It raises the conversation
and it raises concern in terms of the entire hole.
And and that's what we're learning. What we're learning is
is that this is now. This is now Congress, right,
that's Congress that that that did that wants to do
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this audit and wants to to make sure that things
are what they're supposed to be. And if I'm reading
it correctly, again, if you don't do what you're supposed
to do with this one, if you don't handle this
one the way that you're supposed to handle it, then
why should Congress or anybody else feel like you're handling
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it the right way with with any of them. And
and not to say that everybody's handling things the way
Dan Snyder is, but you know, why would you put
put your I don't want to say put your trust,
that's too strong. But if if again, you're marketing this
as uh to your to your fan base, to your clientele,
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that this is a family oriented business and that's our clientele,
that's who we're entertaining, then why do we believe the
Place sixties campaigns? Why do we believe the heads up campaigns?
Why do we believe the No More campaigns? Why do
we believe all of these campaigns that are are launched
by the National Football League, but your owners are out
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here running a muck like it's it kind of becomes
damning information, and it's like, if that's your standard and
you're not holding this one to that standard, that means
you're not holding any of them to that standard. I
think that yesterday was bad for Deshaun Watson in this regard.
I think Roger Goodell came off looking like he was yeah,
(13:06):
weak and a guy who lets you know, this sort
of stuff happened under his wash. Is it let or
is it I can't do anything like to me, I
took away from what he said, but I can't do
anything like like, what do you want me to do?
I can't do anything. Well, I mean, I can't remove him.
I don't have the power to he He also lied,
he taught you know, they asked him about Dave portnoy
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Barstool Sports being uh, you know, and and and he lied.
He was the reason why portnoy is is banned from
you know, from attending NFL games. So there's that. So
he just it wasn't a good look. And this is
going to be the classic overcorrection. He looked bad yesterday,
not not being able to take care of and handle
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an issue that's been in front of his face and
well known and documented at this point for years and years.
So now is he actually going to take a lighter
approach in punishing DeShawn Watson with all the things going on,
I think he's gonna get even more aggressive. I think
he's gonna overcurst. I think that what you're saying it
works against Roger Goodell because it's like, oh, you're gonna
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pick on the little man. You're gonna look, you're gonna
pick on the little guy. And and regardless of what
side you fall on with the Deshaun Watsondale, if you
think he's a scumbag or not or innocent until proven
guilty or he's he's he may have done something wrong,
but it's not enough wrong where he could be tried
for it. Uh, criminal league. Whatever opinion you have of it,
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you have that. But as far as what Roger Goodell
and how he punishes Deshaun Watson, it now I think
is the opposite. I think it puts more pressure on
Roger Goodell to figure out what he is going to
do as it applies to Dan Snyder and how the
the Deshaum Watson situation can actually be and has been
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being used as an example of if if if the ownership,
if the ownership of of these teams are able to
do what they want to do and only get minimum
punishments finds whatever loss of draft picks, and and that's
what it is and how you guys are governing ownership.
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Then if you're going to drop the hammer on a player,
that's going to create an entirely different conversation to the
fan base, to the employees, the players themselves, like this
double standard that exists, which there is a different standard
because they're the owners. But the idea of it is
is that you're in a an environment of straight up
(15:42):
bona fide, blatant hypocrisy. And that's like there are a
lot of conversations that could come out of what happens
with Daniel Snyder versus what happens with uh, you know,
with with the Shawn Watson. It's two pros and a
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at Albert Brier. Albert, what's happening? How's your Thursday? These Briers? Good,
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good good. I'm shradling traffic now with that, Albert, how
does it feel to officially reference yourself as the Albert Rear?
I mean, I mean is that your thing now? Is
that Albert is technically the Pennsylvantates Pennsylvania State University. That's
(17:13):
what that is the official like, which is interesting because
like that's what we are, the Pennsylvania State State University.
So it'd be interesting. Will we still be able to
say the Pennsylvania State University? So Albert for people that
the check, you'll be able to because you gotta stop
using a lot for people that are that are not familiar.
(17:37):
We were talking about this earlier, obviously albert A Ohio
State alum. But you guys received trademark on the word
the so now on T shirts, hats, things like that,
you can just have the word the I feel like
though those have probably already existed in Columbus, if I'm
not mistaken, they did. Yeah, they have T shirts and
hats and I've never owned one, so I think it
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looks kind of weird, to be honest with you, but
uh hey, like if it brings in some more money
for the school, and if Penn State has to pay
to have that on their signage, you know what's interesting
about you taking digs at Penn Stay here's my dig
for you. What what exactly is brutus? What? What what
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is the what is the mascot? What exactly is that
that Ohio State is? It's like it's like a dude
with a big nut friend, right exactly. I'm glad that
you walked right into my dig because now that big
nut on his head, Now you put that on T
shirts and and and and hats and all kinds of
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apparel and stuff like that, and you sell it. If
you put more than one of those brutuses up there
and you add your your trademark V to it, guess
what you got. That's just unbelievable. Hey, by the way, Albert,
just to give you, you know, our don't be plural.
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You are back on in Columbus, by the way, because
we did pick up a brand new affiliate, the all
new Fox Sports Columbus, the home of the Columbus Clippers.
They are now, you know, friends of the program and
part of the family, so they'll get to hear Albert
every single week with us here on FS are so
one of the great Ohio state alums. Um, what is next, Albert?
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When it comes to the uh Washington Commandos slash commanders
and and Dan Snyder and whatever whatever you call that.
Yesterday on which Roger Goodell really earned his money as
he got buried by questions from the US House Oversight Committee,
what happens. Now. Now we we've got all this stuff,
they say they're going to subpoena Dan Snyder. What's the
(19:52):
next step in all this, Well, I mean, obviously at
the next step would be, you know, like seeing's issued
and and his testimony be interesting. I don't think we've
heard him speak publicly really, um, you know since the
you know what hit the fan a couple of years ago.
So um, I mean, I think that's obviously gonna be
(20:14):
really interesting theater um. And you know, after that, Like
I I mean, look like I think the NFL, to
some degree it's the ball is gonna be in their court,
and I you know, like I feel like the the
owners are gonna do everything they can two avoid having
(20:35):
to vote them out, but maybe somehow getting him out
because I do think that there is sentiment within the
the group of owners that what's gone on here isn't
good for anybody. And you know, like, and it's gonna
and if it continues to happen this way, um, They're
continues the information getting out um, and dance Center continues
(20:56):
to treat people this way, it's gonna reflect that on
every and so to me, like the real turning point
was when Rogers started talking openly about the process for
voting an owner out back in February. UM. Now I
feel like he's reeled it back in a little bit
since then. But the fact of the matter is none
of these guys want the president set that they voted
(21:18):
somebody else out. Um. I also think that there's some
level of fear probably there that if they do vote
him out, could there be an airing of dirty laundry? So,
you know, I think what you'll probably see over the
next few months is a temperature continuing to rise on
Dan Snyder, and the question is whether or not it
(21:40):
could ever get hot enough for him actually has sell
the team on his own a B. So, so now
you got to think the heart, the rock in the
heart place is you. You're looking at the commissioner and
and how he has to handle things with the other owners.
He's looking at the the you know, with Congress and
(22:02):
and what he has to handle with with that committee.
It's seemingly as one of everything that you said. But
but how much can this committee dictate? How much can
they do? Because I would have to think that there
would have to be a lot of of I guess
ability to take action in order for this to really
(22:25):
really matter and the owners and Goodell to concern themselves
with what this committee may do and doing these subpoenas
and doing these uh you know, uh, what's the the
audits of what's what's taking place? How does that work?
Can can you do you have that? Like? Can you
explain that a little bit better so that us layman's
(22:47):
can understand what why is this so significant with with
this committee coming after or or wanting to know what's
being done with with Dan Snyder? Sure? I mean, like, well,
I add the two sides to it. Like everything else
in this country, it seems you know which I mean.
One side of it is like that this reflects a
(23:09):
bigger problem in America, and that like if the NFL
isn't gonna take action on a high profile business operating
this way, than somebody has to, and that maybe if
they can take action against the high profile business like this,
or they can pressure and force change with a high
(23:31):
profile business like this, um, then that will lead to
greater change in America. The way women are treated in
the office, the way that the workplace you know, operates
in general in America. That's one side of it. The
other side of it is we have so many issues
in this country right now, and that this is a
(23:53):
private business, and that a lot of this stuff has
already been addressed internally, and so why are we dealing
with this if we're Congress right. So those are the
two sides of the argument, um. You know, and again,
like everything else in America now, foul lines have been
drawn here. As far as what kind of action Congress
could take against Snyder, I'm not sure, um, exactly how
(24:18):
much change they could affect beyond what's already happened. I
don't know they could force him to sell the team. UM.
Do I think they could, you know, put pressure on
the league to do something because of the antitrust exemption,
which is you know, Congress is leverage point with all
sports leagues. Um. Yeah, I think they could put some
(24:38):
pressure on the NFL to take further action against Dan Snyder.
And I think part of that is, you know why
they called Roger Goodell to testify in this case too, um.
And so you know, specifically, what action can you know,
the House Oversight Committee take? I'm not clear on that, um,
(25:00):
But I do think that there's a mechanism there through
the n I trust exemption where they can put pressure
on the NFL um you know, as a whole, to
take more action than they already have against Snyder. Yeah,
because it does seem like he, I mean, Dan Snyder
blows off the meeting, said he had an appointment he
couldn't get out of. I mean it's like, is this
(25:21):
formality driven? You know what I mean? Like that's what
it makes me feel, like this is formality driven, not
not result or or a consequence driven type of deal
that's going on right now. Yeah, Like again, like I
and and I don't think that I don't think that
(25:41):
Congress takes it lightly that Like the dude was on
a yacht in France, Like, wow, this is all going on,
you know. I mean I I think that there's the
opics of that aren't great. And so like I I
get like the level of consequence that could come here,
you know, I some sort of voluntary fine um. You know,
(26:03):
like I don't know exactly what the consequence would be
here other than you know, again like the Congress threatening
the NFL's antitrust exemption, which is a very very big
deal and trying to use that as sort of a
lever to get you know the league to take more
action against Snyder, And I mean, I think certainly there's
(26:26):
no question that. Um. You know, like if if the
if the if Congress does want to go down that path,
there it won't just be Congress pressuring Goodell to do something.
I think you'd get other owners involved in pressuring Goodell
to do more than to get him on Twitter at
Albert Brier alber Brier, Senior NFL reporter at the mm
(26:46):
qb Um, So we're gonna ask you the same canned
answer that we've been asking you every single week this
entire offseason. Where do we stand now on Deshaun Watson?
Any update? Was this a good week? Him settling a
twenty of twenty four civil suits? Where do we stand? Well?
I don't know. If I term it as a good week,
I would say I would say it like brings it
(27:09):
a little close to the closure UM, and it makes
I would say, finding some closure in this um on
an expedite of timeline more realistic. Yeah. The bottom line
is if you know these things remained open when we
get to August first, there's more moratorium that's already been
agreed to where this would just you know, basically be paused,
(27:30):
and then March one, the cases would start up again,
and a lot of the things that have happened over
the last few weeks you would see playing out in
court again. Then. So the fact that twenty of the
twenty four lawsuits have been settled, I think moves you
closer to a place where you can say, okay, regardless
of what happened, and you know you can't take that
(27:52):
part out of it, of course, but regardless of you
know who was right and who was wrong. Here you're
getting a little bit closer to a place now where
the NFL can feel comfortable making a decision that could
well be the final decision as far as what his
punishment is. Whereas if you didn't have UM, if you
didn't have closure, I think it would have been more
(28:13):
like or if you didn't have the settlements, I think
it would have been more likely that you would have gotten,
say a six game and eight game of full season suspension,
with the NFL leaving it open ended and saying we
reserve the right to alter the punishment based on any
new information that becomes available going forward, and I still
think the NFL is gonna give itself that wiggo room
(28:35):
but when cases are now closed and there are confidentiality
agreements in place, it becomes a lot less likely that
we're gonna get November or December or February or March,
and the NFL is going to have to add on
to whatever punishment is gonna leve you in the next month.
(28:56):
Get him on Twitter at Albert Breer, Senior m q V. Albert,
we appreciate it. I know you've been doing radio all morning,
so we appreciate a few minutes of your time and
thanks hanging out with us. Man. Yeah, I there's some
royalties on that. The Albert Brier now I think, Yeah,
we gotta do it. Thanks Albert. We're doing it again
(29:18):
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dot com, slash match limitations to fly burn. Okay you
just can you just say that? Damn but not me?
For Christ's sake, that's time for this. How could you
not get to these stories? Are there? Scraps lead the lab? Sorry?
(31:39):
I was hearing about a horse lead the lab? What
do we got going on? Guys? Yesterday the New England
Patriots unveiled that well revealed that they're going to be
bringing back the alternate red jerseys. A tidbit on this
is that they actually pushed for a change in the
NFL rules in order to make this happen, because up
until the season, the NFL said you couldn't change your helmets.
(32:02):
You had to keep one helmet for safety reasons. But
they led the charge and changing that rule so now
they could go back to their alternate old Red jerseys.
I mean, one of my favorite jerseys from back in
the day are those retro Patriots jersey where they had
that guy in the three point stands? Is that guy
like an actual Patriot and a three point stands on
his helmet? Patriot? God? Okay, you want to know what
(32:24):
when I think of those jerseys, when I think of, um,
do you remember Andre Tippett? All right? So I I
remember I was obsessed with starting lineups, those action figures,
those foot and it didn't matter who the team was.
I just wanted to collect as as many as I
could so I would save up money, whatever money I
could get. I remember buying an Andre Tippet starting lineup
(32:47):
and it was in the red jersey with the hat.
I could never figure out, is that is that a Patriot?
It's like a center. He's like he's snapping a ball.
He's holding the ball. I believe, isn't he holding the ball?
I think? So? I believe he's a center? God? Man,
those are those retro jerseys back in the day. Like,
what was your favorite jersey growing up? Other than it
(33:08):
can't be the Steelers. Other than the Steelers, there was
nothing else you didn't respect, like the old giants, like
the across the helmet, the old giants like Lawrence Taylor.
I'm as a fan of the game. I like, I
like when guys go back to retro uniforms. I am
not a fan of the Tampa Bay retro popsicle. You're not, No,
(33:30):
I'm not. I think it looks weird. I'm not a
fan of it. But I do like retro uniforms. But
I'm just a Steelers fan, you know. I mean, look,
think about I went to Penn State, Like, look at
a retro uniform, which I never knew. They had a
retro uniform where they had a line on a blue
stripe on the pants and a number on the side
of the helmet and white shoes, which I thought is fly.
(33:52):
I wish I could award that uniform. Did they sell
LaVar Arrington number eleven jerseys? They sell eleven jerseys. That's
the cool thing about it for for Penn State is
you know you don't have to You could get away
with and not being connected to a player because there's
no names on the back. Yeah, it's kind of a
kind of a fun little trick they got there because
(34:14):
no name all. Who are the elevens? It's you, Brandon Bill, uh, well,
all of them, Brandon Bill, Kyrie fort Um, Michael Parsons.
And and now we got a new one out there
now as well. So but I'll leave him nameless for now.
(34:35):
I gave him my blessing, but I ain't gonna put
him out there yet. And and like obviously you guys
are battling for second to Matt mcloy for the numberless
that's on the offensive side of the ball. There have
been plenty of elevens on the other side of the
ball as well. Yeah, and I'm I'm loving the fact
that bird Oh sitting there like with a smirk on
his face saying, yeah, that's that's fair enough. After mcglowan
(34:59):
is are right, he's people. Uh what else we got
late fellas. The Browns saw their Super Bowl odds increase
following the news of Deshaun Watson settlements. They've improved from
twenty five from shot to now being viewed as a
twenty one contenders. They've also have their A f C
odds moved to ten to one. Okay, what about the
wind totals? Are wind totals out of the Brown jecks?
I know they've been trying to keep those close to
(35:21):
the best. Yeah, I got news right there. Not because
in a lot of places nobody knows what the hell
is going to happen, and they're not willing to roll
the dice on a wind total when Jacoby Brissett is
going to be starting. Interesting that the settlements moved the
line though, because I don't I think it's like interesting.
He has so many cases that four doesn't even seem
(35:42):
like a lot. If it wasn't so many cases, you
would still be like, man, there's four out there. Yeah,
one's enough everyone, thank you. Let's be clear. One is enough.
There are theories that either Vegas knows what the suspension
is that's coming down, or that just a lot of
money came in on the Browns after these settlements and
so moved the lines. Yeah, it was probably that, But
(36:02):
I do want to give a DraftKings credit. They had
Deshaun Watson as the runner up as far as odds
go for Comeback Player of the Year. It was Derrick
Henry sitting atop and followed by Deshaun Watson. He's now
been moved all the way down the list because I
think DraftKings realized nobody's biting on the fact that this
(36:24):
guy is going to be rewarded with Comeback Player of
the Year. When you asked the question, what's he coming
back from? Well, I don't know, yeah, towel hoarding, like
like you name it. What what is he coming back from?
There's a lot of yeah. So, um, you know, there's
there's a lot with that story. But good for DraftKings.
(36:47):
What else? Lee fellas Amber heard after losing her defamation
trial to her ex Johnny Depp is now and talks
to read to tell all book about this about the case,
about the case. Well, I wonder because you can't really
of fame him again, can you. I mean, I'd imagine
that would be against that would be bad news for her.
So this is more about the case. So she crapped
(37:07):
in a bed case closed. Well, if you write about
why you craft in the bit, people be interested in it.
I might want to know. That's just like, that's it. Well,
that's that's a weird, weird club to be in. You know,
it's not weird the Dollar Shave Club because the Dollar
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(37:47):
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