April 11, 2022 • 38 mins
Jonas and LaVar know any team LeBron is on that fails needs a “fall guy” and this year it goes to HC Frank Vogel. Patriots OT Trent Brown gets a huge bonus if he’s able to show discipline and put down the fork. Is the USFL going too far by doing away with the chain gang? Plus, Joe Exotic autograph requests, Rob Manfred peace offerings and the Bills new stadium on The Scraps.
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And you know so obviously we understand that the Los
Angeles Lakers have had a little bit of a disappointing season,
and um, so much so that they're desperate for help, right,
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I mean they are looking anywhere for some help. And
so Lebron James UM is like, listen, Ohio guy. Uh,
this guy went to Ohio State. I feel like, uh,
you know, I I can trust him. He's from where
I'm from. Uh. Lebron James reached out to uh NFL
Hall of Famer Chris Carter to get his thoughts on
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how they can emity the situation in Los Angeles. If
you all got a crew, you've got to have a
fall guy. Well, LaVar, good luck, because I here we go.
We have got tell we have got a fall guy
identified with the Los Angeles Lakers. The the fall guy
apparently is going to be Frank Vogel, the head coach
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of the Lakers. The Los Angeles Lakers finish off the season.
They to fun. They win back to back games for
the first car to wrong for putting that out there
as right as he Yeah, but you know what in
sports radio once he said that, we're like, all right,
that'll keep on giving for years and years. Um is
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right now today That's exactly what Frank Vogel is. Oh
it is. Uh. He the Lakers win back to back
games to finish out the season, the first time they
won back to back games since January seven. You guys
won on that one too, Yeah, I mean, who knows.
I mean, what's over unders, the tide is turning. You were,
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you were hot during the NFL season, but since then,
I mean I'm not really that Yeah. Yeah, who cares?
I mean, why would I have a problem losing with
Tiger Woods missing the cut? I mean the finished fifty seven?
Who cares? Good? You know? Yeah, he's good. Um So,
Frank Vogel, according to Adrian war Zanowski of ESPN, is
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out and the announcement could be made coming up later
on today. So, as Chris Carter pointed out to Lebron
James and that exclusive that we just had is the
fall guy. Here was the now current as of right now?
Uh Lakers coach talking with the media after last night's game,
Frank Credit At the end of the game, Adrian Wilsonarowski
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tweeted that, um, the Lakers are gonna be firing you
a decision. They'll let you know tomorrow. Have you communicated
with the front office at all about your future. And
I guess what's your reaction to hearing that. My reaction is,
I haven't been told. I'm gonna enjoy tonight's game and
what our guys did tonight and the way we finished
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out this season prout of our guys tonight. You know
what that sounds like to be. That sounds like a
guy who's like, hey, man, see you all later. It's
like the worst thing you can do to me and
told me yes, Like he actually sounds kind of relieved, like,
all right, listen, man, this is he had to have
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known at some point this is probably gonna be the
way this is going to go, because this is how
this goes with every coach, seemingly Lebron James deals with
outside of Eric Spoelstrah that that that this is gonna
be sort of what his fate was. He got a
a championship, you know, a bubble title, nonetheless, but it
is a championship and uh and now Frank Vogel can
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move on and go do something else and he doesn't
have to be a part of this garbage anymore. So
good for him. This that what they did when they
brought him in, then they get rid of somebody a
coach the same exact way. Yeah, and then they brought
him in and then won the next year. Go go
throughout the course of Lebron James's career. Was it lou
was it Tyron loeu? Uh? That Tyler was in Cleveland
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David Blatt and then he come to the Lakers. Uh.
Tyler was reportedly interested in the job, and then there
was discussions back and forth about whether or not, you know,
he was going to take the gig, and then he
decided to not take the gig. It's just like, there's
just there's been a lot that's happened with that with
this team, in this organization over the past past several years.
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Here's all I'll say. Here's all I'll say to this
is Frank Vogel, as long as the team was winning,
was going to be fine with with that group of guys.
I don't think that that's a shocker or or you know,
a military secret that if they if they had a
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failing year, a failing season, that he would be the
first one to go. He's not the only he's not
the only fall guy like Russell Wilson. Excuse me, Russell
westbrook Is, he'll be he might be a fall guy too.
Russell Russell westbrook Is is probably ultimately going to be
a fall guy. And and those will be the two
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major fall guys to justify that this season was a
bus because of those two, not because of anything that
had to do with Lebron James and the Lakers, like
the Lakers were where they needed to be. A A
D got, you know, he got he got banged up again,
So we gotta figure out what we do in terms
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of his health moving forward, because he just can't seem
to stay healthy um in his pro career. So you're
gonna blame a D's health, You're gonna blame Vogels coaching,
and you're gonna blame that that Westbrook wasn't what he
needed to be to this team. And if there's anybody
else to add to that list, as long as it's
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preserving Lebron James, I would assume and and not diminishing
him in any way, then they're gonna be. They're going
to be a fall guy as well. And I think
that that's ultimately what this comes down to. And you
got to know that coming into the scenario when you
joined the team with Lebron James. It's just it's every
time he got he gets somewhere, there's somebody that's identified
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as the problem, and it's strange, like he never there's
some like when he got to Miami, who wasn't Chris Bosh.
Like Chris, Chris Bosh was phenomenal. He was a great
player in Toronto. Chris Bosh Hall of Fame. Like great player.
Chris Bosh was responsible for them winning the championship that
one year. He was the guy that was the reason.
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He was the catalyst for the Heat winning the champion
him and and and Ray Allen hitting that big shot
to keep him alive in that series against San Antonio.
Like Chris Bosh was fantastic. He also wanted to give
it a bolster in the big of course, Yeah Lebron wanted. Yeah,
Lebron wanted to get rid of Erik Spoelster. And pat
Riley's like, dude, go to your job. And then and
and pat Riley was the only guy in Lebron's career
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that ever stood up to him, the only guy that
ever said no, no, no, no, no no, you're not calling
shots here like this, this is I run this organization.
I'm putting this team together. He was the only guy
that ever stood up to him. He wanted Spolster gone.
Chris Bosh was the fall guy in in Miami, he
was the problem. And then when he got to Cleveland,
it was Kevin Love. Kevin Loves the problem. Include It's like, dude,
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at some point, why why is it always one of
his teams? And now it's Russell Westbrook. Westbrook's the problem.
It's like, what do you mean? Like he was the
one you guys went out and pursued, Like you brought
him in. You knew he had struggled. He was struggling
shooting the ball. You knew you needed outside shooting, and
you brought in Russell Westbrook, which is why it never
made sense. And when the odds came out before the
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season and the Lakers were the second favorites to win
a title, I'm like, hold, look, look at the roster.
Doesn't make any sense. But the one guy that's going
to get a pastor all this is gonna be Lebron.
It's weird. It's weird how this follows him everywhere he goes,
yet he never gets any of the smoke. It's just bizarre.
I don't think it's bizarre at all. I think that
he's done an excellent job of insulating himself in a
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way where this is how he handles things. I mean,
he has being the greatest of all time in his sights.
That's his campaign is to be the greatest of all time.
And you know who needs that more than anybody else,
even maybe more so than Lebron Jonas the NBA. The
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NBA needs him because right now it does the NBA
no good to have Michael Jordan being that when you
have Lebron James there, what is what is coming? Right? Like?
What's next after Lebron James. He's got to solidify what
he represents in his campaigns while he's still an active player.
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And so now you're looking at we're getting to the
twilight of his career, and you don't want anything to
take place that can take away and disparage anybody from
looking at Lebron James as being in that conversation, because
what you're gonna have to do is you're gonna have
to use the recency effect with Lebron James if some
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of these young stars don't step into the role. Because
I mean Janice, I like Joannice. But is he a
is he a name that carries the ship or does
he carry the NBA logo? You know, is there is
Joel and Bead a guy that carries the logo? Is
you know Steph Curry? Is he a guy that can continue?
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I mean he's not. He's not young anymore either. I
mean it's just to me, I think with Lebron James,
there's always going to be a level of protect and
and make no mistake about that same thing existed with
Michael Jordan when he was playing Let's not let's not
forget you couldn't touch Mike at one point in time.
You couldn't touch Michael Jordan's and I mean you couldn't
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touch him in any regard. And and that was, you know,
that was by design. And I think that that's what's
designed for for you know, for Lebron. Yeah, it's uh.
And and you just watch how this whole thing is
played out. And I actually think if you were to
ask Lebron, he'll he'll never say this publicly um or
in this order, He'll never acknowledge this. But if you
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were to ask Lebron James, all right, score, like, what
are your priorities. Top three al right, like top three priorities,
arrest of your career. Priority. Number one, he wants to
play with his son, which I totally get. What an
awesome accomplishment if he can pull that off. You know,
Ken Griffy, Ken Griffey Jr. Got to play together like
that would be awesome to see Lebron play with his son.
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I think that's number one. Number two is a scoring title.
I think he wants to be the all time leading
score And then further down the list, we'll call it three,
but you know, feels closer to ten is winning another championship.
I just don't think that's really the goal anymore, because
even if he does win a couple of more, there's
still a segment of the population that's never gonna budge
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from Michael Jordan is the greatest of all time? And
when when the Last Dance documentary came out during the
pandemic and people had nothing else to watch other than
Tiger King and you can only take somebody, uh, you know,
drug addict, you know, infested animal lovers and weirdos before
you get tired of that series. People were watching the documentary,
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they're walking watching the Last dance when it was rolled
out every single week and they're going, my god, the
way Michael Jordan was presented, it just solidified what everybody
and a lot of people felt like going into this
was Michael Jordan's the greatest of all time. I don't
I don't think lebron can do anything to budge that
portion of the society. So I just think he wants
to play with his son, he wants to be the
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all time leading score and then he walks away, probably
never winning another ring in his career. Here. I just
think that's where he's at. But hey, Frank Vogel, appreciate
your service, pal, Go go get a cocktail, find yourself
a cantina somewhere in UH told you as he got
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there is a this is a fascinating, fascinating breakdown as
to what can happen if you just show a little
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bit of discipline, a little bit of discipline and you
can get paid. We'll have that for you next here,
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He's the one man, Roberto just tell tell LaVar what
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you just told me. In my ear there's that a
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one of those unbelievable Yeah. So just you know, trying
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to trying to do a show and uh and you
get that right before you come on the air. That's
always funa. Uh coming up in about ten minutes here, now,
there is somebody that's trying to change your NFL. They're
trying to change your NFL. There, trying to change football.
I'm not a fan of it. We will get into
that conversation here, uh in about ten minutes from now,
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before we get into Uh, just a phenomenal, phenomenal opportunity
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or in stores. So we were mentioning the Drew holiday
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contract incentive where he took part in like eight seconds
of a game last night. Uh, he fouled some dude
and then went to the bench and he hit his
Uh you know, he hit his requirements on his contract,
hit his incentives, and he made an extra three hundred
thousand dollars. Check out this for Trent Brown, Uh, the
offensive tackle the Patriots. This according to Mike Reaves of ESPN, So,
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Trent Brown's got a two year deal with the with
the New England Patriots, and it's all based around weight bonuses.
So if Trent Round weighs three hundred eighty five pounds
are less on the first day of the off season program,
he gets a hundred fifty thousand dollars. If he weighs
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three hundred and seventy five pounds are less on June one,
he gets another seventy five thousand dollars. If he weighs
three hundred sixty five pounds are less on July, he
gets another seventy five thousand dollars. And if he weighs
three hundred and sixty five pounds or less each Thursday
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during the season, he's gonna get an extra twenty five
thousand dollars each week. So what does that tell you,
um that he's got a problem with his weight. No,
what it tells you is he plays at his best
at the like he must be one of the best
in the game when he's playing at that weight. And
they have a fine schedule, do they do they disclose
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the fine schedule? I I don't see it here. I
wasn't get Do you get fine to like? It's the
other way. So you get rewarded for being at the
way you're supposed to be at, but you also will
get fined for being like I think it's every pound
from what your your your way is supposed to be.
Remember when Eddie Lacy was brought back in the NFL.
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Uh and Eddie Lacey had a problem with with his weight,
and like they that was part of his contract, Like
that was heavily you know, included in his contract was
he had to be under a certain weight in order
to you know, hit his accelerators and all that. And
he actually came in and he looked a lot different,
but he was like a fraction of the player he
was because that weight like like that benefited him and
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his running style and just being able to take some
of the punishment he took. I mean, yeah, I guess
for Trent Brown, if you're an offensive tackle dealing with
you know, speed rushers and things like that, probably not
great that he's you know, staring four pounds in the
eyes on the outside is especially if he gets older.
But it's just it's it's crazy to think, Hey, all
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you gotta do is put the fork down and you
can make a significant amount of money, not through the
entire off season and once you get into the season.
Do you think he was thrilled with with these details
being put in the contract? You think Trump Brown was
happy with these Look at it this way, man, if
you got those type of incentives tied up into your
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I remember I didn't like going off seasons with teams.
And when I redid my contract, the one time that
I redid my contract, it was based off of me
being present because they wanted me there in the off
season and I had to make nine of my my
workouts to get this crazy bonus and I was there.
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So but how did you how did you structure what? What?
What were the ten percent that you would miss? Did
you sprinkle in a couple of days or did you
just show up ten percent late and then stay there
at the rest of the off season? Like how did
you structure? I was just there, Jonas, I was there
like that. That incentive was that bonus was like right
there staring you in your face. And it's like, Okay,
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I'm getting paid aid to get in shape and get
in shape at the facility instead of getting in shape
in Jamaica, or or getting in shape in California, or
getting in shape, you know, in Florida. Like I'm getting
paid to get in shape here and in a Cabo
like Zeke Elliott when he was waiting for his contract
and he went to go train in Cabo. Okay, So
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I mean all I'll say is is if I have
to lose weight to hit those type of incentives and
and bonuses, I'm gonna lose that weight. And that's the point,
and that's what they're hoping for. It's this is this,
this is a twofold scenario, right. The first fold is
you see what his commitment level is and what his
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motivations are if he's hitting those if he's meeting those
those bonuses. Second fold is you see if he's if
he's in it or not by if he hits those bonuses.
It's almost the same. First and second fold are are
the same because if he shows that he's not willing
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to to get his weight down, not even to be
like like think about it. You get your weight down
so that you can play well and get a contract,
good contract. If you can't get up for losing weight
to make money, then something's wrong with you. All right,
This is this is not the right right approach. This
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is not the right deal for you. All right. Let
let me ask you this, all right, because I want
to know honest give me the honest truth here, all right.
I don't want none of this, uh, you know, play
it's safe here, Give me the honest truth and also
take a new account. This is the new England Patriots
and Bill Belichick we're talking about, right, Say Trent brown
Um is in the off season working out um, you know,
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putting in the time, and you know, tweaks his ankle
or you know, yeah, hamstring, sprains his foot, whatever, and
all of a sudden he can't do the CARDI know
that that he was doing because he's got this issue.
And this happens with fighters all the time. They'll tweak
a knee or an ankle in a camp and next
thing you know, they come in there not in as
great as shape as they normally would be because they
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were dealing with this issue and so they couldn't get
the right amount of cardio in. Do you think Bill
Belichick is gonna, you know, let him slide and say,
you know what, we understand he had a little bit
of an issue. You weren't able to do some cardio.
I'll tell you what, here's your grand It's all good.
We know you're putting in the time. You think that's
gonna happen or the circumstances matter if he does that,
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if he tweaks it and he's there and they're able
to monitor what the people at the facility are doing,
then there's that's a conversation. If he tweets it and
he's somewhere else and they can't monitor what he's got
going on, then that's not a conversation, not at all.
Because this amount of money on the table. You know
what I would do if I couldn't do any cardio,
I would just stop eating, stop drinking water. But you
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want to do cardio, we'll do it this way. Right.
You can get into a pool and you can get
way more cardio going and doing pool workouts than you
can't even going onto a field and into a weight room.
So for me, I'm looking at it like there's nothing
that's gonna keep me from getting that bonus. Nothing Like
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it's not I have a soft tissue injury to my
my hamstring and I couldn't lose ten pounds like no, man.
I I started doing a uh I start. I did
a two day cleanse, a detox cleans right, And I
don't have I don't have hundreds of thousands of dollars
connected to it. I just don't want to be a
fatass anymore. And and so for me, you know, I've
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been I've been starting you know to to kind of
like reset my system, my metabolism and all that stuff,
so that I could lose weight. Like you, you can
find ways to lose weight, Like guys like that have
so much water weight. He could lose thirty pounds and
not even feel it. Now that two days lends that
you're talking about how that goes? Well? Well? Little uh?
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I mean, bro, I got I got Oh, I got
tired of it. I got tired of the problem. Yeah,
that's the problem. Let me tell you something. If you
ever decided to do a detox and and a cleansing, um,
make sure you have um wet wipes and soft toiletician
because if you go paper like if you go if
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you go like the thin heart paper toilet paper, it's
a wrap. Yeah, you want to talk about chap lips.
It's raining you who. I hear you? Now, I know
I can't you who either. Yeah, that's not not a
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fan at all, especially if it wasn't you who. Now
here's the here's the other thing I'll say. With this
amount of money on the table, I mean I'm not
above throwing like a percentage at whoever's you know, handling
the scale to doctor that bad boy a little bit
and and make sure I'm underweight every time. Like if
if he's making a hundred fifty thousand dollars on the
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first day of the off season programs, well, listen, I
a lot of those position coaches are not making that
much money. So if a hundred fifty thousand dollars, if
you throw some guy a grand and say hey, here's
a g why don't you make sure that that scale
starts off negative twenty so that I can weigh in
under three five and you can make a thousand dollars.
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Figure that out. Man, I'm gonna tell you, like a
coach told me, cash rules everything around me. I mean, look,
if the astros can wear you know, electronic buzzers on
their stern um and get a shocked during a game
to tip off a pitch, somebody can figure out how
to adjust his scales of Trent Trent Brown can get paid.
Tired of this? Alright? Two pros and a cup of
Joe here on Fox Sports Radio coming up in about
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twelve minutes from now. Uh, there's a future Hall of
Fame quarterback in the NFL and he has a connection
to a prisoner. A prisoner so we will get into
that story with all the details twelve minutes from now.
You gotta stick around, right, there's a connection between famer,
future Hall of Famer and a prison, a prison inmates.
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This is this Deshaun Watson. Now, Jesus, Now, I was
just wondering just now you were getting no, no, you
gotta well, you gotta stick around. Trust me. It's and
and you uh, you will have some thoughts on this
and it hits a little close to home for you
as well. To la. There's that. Um, all right, did
you see so the USFL kicks off this upcoming weekend. Now,
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I don't know if we're gonna be like drawing teams
from a hat, like we all have to pick a team.
There's like eight teams or whatever it is. Uh, it's
gonna be. It's a lot of fun. Just getting ready
to watch some spring football. You see what what the
USFL is doing though, Um, they're trying to change the
football we grew up with. So the USFL is now
doing this, Um, this electronic chip inside the ball with
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the yellow line on TV. That is how they're going
to determine whether or not there's a first down. So
you know those chain gang guys where they bring out
the chain. What are we doing here? Can't we just
leave something alone? Like, I get it, Well, it's it's antiquated,
it's an outdated technology. I mean, these are changed. You've
got these guys, but that's what we grew up with.
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There's nothing better than them stretching the chain out and
you're finding out whether or not you got a first
down or whether or not you were short. And they're
trying to take that away from the sticks. Pisces me off.
What are we doing here? Tell us? I mean you
don't feel like being progressive is important? I'll progress this. Look,
but people, I mean, at some point, there's nothing wrong
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with the past. All right, there's nothing wrong with it.
We can continue on using the chain gang. Guys. They've
been here for years and years. They're not bothering anybody,
they're not hurting anybody. You do know, a lot of
things have changed as the game has evolved. What if
this makes things better? Okay? I mean what if it
speeds up the game where you don't have to come
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out and bring the chains out? I don't I don't
need the game sped up at all. Like, listen, this
is what maybe people out there listening or like, yeah,
the games take too long. I know this is my job.
I'm not worried about you. How do the players know
what the distances to to the first down? Then if
you don't have to chain gang out there exactly, because
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you still got to be able to see as a player,
where the sticks are. Like you play defense with the sticks.
Your coverages are about a sticks, Your routes are about
a sticks, your runs are about a sticks. A lot
of things are are measured by where the ball is
and relation to the sticks on the sideline. And so
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how does that how? I'll be curious to see how
that works. That's what I'm saying that there's there's something
there's something nice about looking at a game and going,
you know what it How about those guys over there,
those guys holding up two sticks with a big chain
in between, and they're the ones determining how far you
need to go for a first down? There's something about that.
It's a it's a throwback. It's you know, from a
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from a place years and years ago. It's what we
grew up with, and they're trying to take it away.
It's like they're trying to eliminate the kickoff. They're trying
to They're trying to change all these great things about football,
and I'm not having it. Electronic chips and balls? What
are we doing here, yellow lines? Let's figure this thing out, man,
Electronic chips and bowls. Yeah, it's interesting. Yeah is it?
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What else? What else is it? Tracking? I don't know.
I don't even want to know the way this uh,
this whole compos what else? What other information is being
gathered from them their bowls? Who knows? But it is.
Have you noticed the pressure do they? Yeah? Dude, they
connected to the amount of well pressure, Um, that's in
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rcay bitches about it and complains because his team can't
beat Tom Brady. So then he just didn't want anyone touching.
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thought he was just a heck of a singer, like
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He's got like a mouthful of butter. All right, come on, then,
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is Ben going to send him the autograph or you
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Is he ever going to get out of prison? Or
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I know, I know he put in an appeal. I'm
not sure if that obviously that didn't work out. I
didn't watch the They came out with a second Tiger King, right, yeah,
good enough for me. Yeah, I didn't watch it. I
just at the end of it, I just got depressed.
Because I was like, all right, well, I mean, the
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a little small gesture of appreciation to all the players.
Bows wireless headphones put in each locker for every player,
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and then you know what, hey, can you get round
of applause for Rob Manfred? Round of applause? What I'm
talking about? You know, that's what I'm talking I mean,
never mind the fact that he's the laughing stock of
commissioners in all of sports. Never mind the fact that
he let a team cheat and then insulted his own
world championship trophy, Rob Manfred, never mind all of that stuff.
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Here we go. Here's some free headphones. Sorry about the
misunderstanding during the off season. I like it. What a
what a kind act and gesture of you know, let's
let's move forward together. Let's listen in harmony, thrilled our
faces throughout the postseason with a great performance. Hey, Rob
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put down the gym beam by the way, you led
Dodgers to victory. That sounds like Harry Carey. Like he
sounds like Harry Carey, you know, battle backwards to phenomenal.
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I remember working at this company, uh, and they were
just just awful to work for. One of the most
miserable jobs I've ever had. And I'm not going to
air him out, but pretty well known company. And I
remember working for him, and one of their incentives was, Hey,
if you hit to a certain percentage of your quota
by this month, And it was like really hot out
it was like July or August, and the air conditioner
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was broke. They said, whoever gets to a certain percentage
by this time of the month, you can wear shorts
to work the rest of the month. Like that was
there and said everything I saw on a second. So
because you're too cheap to pay the electrical the electrical
bill and get your air conditioning fixed, like because you
don't want to spend the money on that, we have
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to hit our quota by a certain time of the
month or else we have to suffer through, and then
our reward is we can wear shorts just like that.
That's what this feels like to me. So at least
these guys are getting headphones. We got to wear a
cargo shorts for half a month. I didn't even get
to wear I didn't hit my quotause I was terrible
at the job effort. Do you love it? Don't um?
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By the way, if you want to make LaVar laugh
wherever he's at, just show him the Vince McMahon YouTube
complim lipulation. Why hey, losing it every time? LaVar is
a crier when he laughs real hard to tears. I
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got tears of right there, Lee. What else have we
got you guys? The Bills have announced that they are
going to build the one point four billion dollars stadium
in Orchard Park, New York. Set the kickoff in well,
six hundred million dollars is at one point four is
coming from uh, not from taxpayers, but from state funds. Yeah,
(36:26):
And and people are mad because it took away from
like some education funds. That's more than public schools are getting. Yeah.
And that's why this whole, you know, inclusion thing became
a conversation, because these owners do have to answer to
someone other than themselves when using state funds. But you know,
I just listen, I can understand why there's some other
(36:48):
important issues that need to be tackled. No pun intended
in the state this and I get all that. Unfortunately, though,
this is the Bills we're talking about here, all right,
this is Buffalo Bills. Let me come on. There are
a good franchise. They've got a good team, they've got
a promising young quarterback who looks to be the real deal.
And these you know, they want to build a new stadium.
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I haven't been to Did you ever play a game
in Buffalo? Yes? I have. Okay, I have to get
to that stadium before they tear it down because it
just reminds me of the Yeah, I know what that is. Yeah,
it's just it's say, differently than the one they use
these days. Yeah, just yeah, they call it a billball,
Yeah what that is? Yeah? Yeah, I uh see, I've
(37:34):
never been to a Bills game, but I know that,
Um you know something from my house has been to
a Bills game. I just like, I feel like that's
that's the important part of all. I've also seen Olympic
javelin throwers that those games as well. Yeah, you think
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And you know so obviously we understand that the Los
Angeles Lakers have had a little bit of a disappointing season,
and um, so much so that they're desperate for help, right,
(01:36):
I mean they are looking anywhere for some help. And
so Lebron James UM is like, listen, Ohio guy. Uh,
this guy went to Ohio State. I feel like, uh,
you know, I I can trust him. He's from where
I'm from. Uh. Lebron James reached out to uh NFL
Hall of Famer Chris Carter to get his thoughts on
(01:59):
how they can emity the situation in Los Angeles. If
you all got a crew, you've got to have a
fall guy. Well, LaVar, good luck, because I here we go.
We have got tell we have got a fall guy
identified with the Los Angeles Lakers. The the fall guy
apparently is going to be Frank Vogel, the head coach
(02:20):
of the Lakers. The Los Angeles Lakers finish off the season.
They to fun. They win back to back games for
the first car to wrong for putting that out there
as right as he Yeah, but you know what in
sports radio once he said that, we're like, all right,
that'll keep on giving for years and years. Um is
(02:44):
right now today That's exactly what Frank Vogel is. Oh
it is. Uh. He the Lakers win back to back
games to finish out the season, the first time they
won back to back games since January seven. You guys
won on that one too, Yeah, I mean, who knows.
I mean, what's over unders, the tide is turning. You were,
(03:06):
you were hot during the NFL season, but since then,
I mean I'm not really that Yeah. Yeah, who cares?
I mean, why would I have a problem losing with
Tiger Woods missing the cut? I mean the finished fifty seven?
Who cares? Good? You know? Yeah, he's good. Um So,
Frank Vogel, according to Adrian war Zanowski of ESPN, is
(03:30):
out and the announcement could be made coming up later
on today. So, as Chris Carter pointed out to Lebron
James and that exclusive that we just had is the
fall guy. Here was the now current as of right now?
Uh Lakers coach talking with the media after last night's game,
Frank Credit At the end of the game, Adrian Wilsonarowski
(03:51):
tweeted that, um, the Lakers are gonna be firing you
a decision. They'll let you know tomorrow. Have you communicated
with the front office at all about your future. And
I guess what's your reaction to hearing that. My reaction is,
I haven't been told. I'm gonna enjoy tonight's game and
what our guys did tonight and the way we finished
(04:11):
out this season prout of our guys tonight. You know
what that sounds like to be. That sounds like a
guy who's like, hey, man, see you all later. It's
like the worst thing you can do to me and
told me yes, Like he actually sounds kind of relieved, like,
all right, listen, man, this is he had to have
(04:33):
known at some point this is probably gonna be the
way this is going to go, because this is how
this goes with every coach, seemingly Lebron James deals with
outside of Eric Spoelstrah that that that this is gonna
be sort of what his fate was. He got a
a championship, you know, a bubble title, nonetheless, but it
is a championship and uh and now Frank Vogel can
(04:54):
move on and go do something else and he doesn't
have to be a part of this garbage anymore. So
good for him. This that what they did when they
brought him in, then they get rid of somebody a
coach the same exact way. Yeah, and then they brought
him in and then won the next year. Go go
throughout the course of Lebron James's career. Was it lou
was it Tyron loeu? Uh? That Tyler was in Cleveland
(05:16):
David Blatt and then he come to the Lakers. Uh.
Tyler was reportedly interested in the job, and then there
was discussions back and forth about whether or not, you know,
he was going to take the gig, and then he
decided to not take the gig. It's just like, there's
just there's been a lot that's happened with that with
this team, in this organization over the past past several years.
(05:39):
Here's all I'll say. Here's all I'll say to this
is Frank Vogel, as long as the team was winning,
was going to be fine with with that group of guys.
I don't think that that's a shocker or or you know,
a military secret that if they if they had a
(06:00):
failing year, a failing season, that he would be the
first one to go. He's not the only he's not
the only fall guy like Russell Wilson. Excuse me, Russell
westbrook Is, he'll be he might be a fall guy too.
Russell Russell westbrook Is is probably ultimately going to be
a fall guy. And and those will be the two
(06:23):
major fall guys to justify that this season was a
bus because of those two, not because of anything that
had to do with Lebron James and the Lakers, like
the Lakers were where they needed to be. A A
D got, you know, he got he got banged up again,
So we gotta figure out what we do in terms
(06:43):
of his health moving forward, because he just can't seem
to stay healthy um in his pro career. So you're
gonna blame a D's health, You're gonna blame Vogels coaching,
and you're gonna blame that that Westbrook wasn't what he
needed to be to this team. And if there's anybody
else to add to that list, as long as it's
(07:04):
preserving Lebron James, I would assume and and not diminishing
him in any way, then they're gonna be. They're going
to be a fall guy as well. And I think
that that's ultimately what this comes down to. And you
got to know that coming into the scenario when you
joined the team with Lebron James. It's just it's every
time he got he gets somewhere, there's somebody that's identified
(07:27):
as the problem, and it's strange, like he never there's
some like when he got to Miami, who wasn't Chris Bosh.
Like Chris, Chris Bosh was phenomenal. He was a great
player in Toronto. Chris Bosh Hall of Fame. Like great player.
Chris Bosh was responsible for them winning the championship that
one year. He was the guy that was the reason.
(07:49):
He was the catalyst for the Heat winning the champion
him and and and Ray Allen hitting that big shot
to keep him alive in that series against San Antonio.
Like Chris Bosh was fantastic. He also wanted to give
it a bolster in the big of course, Yeah Lebron wanted. Yeah,
Lebron wanted to get rid of Erik Spoelster. And pat
Riley's like, dude, go to your job. And then and
and pat Riley was the only guy in Lebron's career
(08:10):
that ever stood up to him, the only guy that
ever said no, no, no, no, no no, you're not calling
shots here like this, this is I run this organization.
I'm putting this team together. He was the only guy
that ever stood up to him. He wanted Spolster gone.
Chris Bosh was the fall guy in in Miami, he
was the problem. And then when he got to Cleveland,
it was Kevin Love. Kevin Loves the problem. Include It's like, dude,
(08:32):
at some point, why why is it always one of
his teams? And now it's Russell Westbrook. Westbrook's the problem.
It's like, what do you mean? Like he was the
one you guys went out and pursued, Like you brought
him in. You knew he had struggled. He was struggling
shooting the ball. You knew you needed outside shooting, and
you brought in Russell Westbrook, which is why it never
made sense. And when the odds came out before the
(08:55):
season and the Lakers were the second favorites to win
a title, I'm like, hold, look, look at the roster.
Doesn't make any sense. But the one guy that's going
to get a pastor all this is gonna be Lebron.
It's weird. It's weird how this follows him everywhere he goes,
yet he never gets any of the smoke. It's just bizarre.
I don't think it's bizarre at all. I think that
he's done an excellent job of insulating himself in a
(09:18):
way where this is how he handles things. I mean,
he has being the greatest of all time in his sights.
That's his campaign is to be the greatest of all time.
And you know who needs that more than anybody else,
even maybe more so than Lebron Jonas the NBA. The
(09:38):
NBA needs him because right now it does the NBA
no good to have Michael Jordan being that when you
have Lebron James there, what is what is coming? Right? Like?
What's next after Lebron James. He's got to solidify what
he represents in his campaigns while he's still an active player.
(10:03):
And so now you're looking at we're getting to the
twilight of his career, and you don't want anything to
take place that can take away and disparage anybody from
looking at Lebron James as being in that conversation, because
what you're gonna have to do is you're gonna have
to use the recency effect with Lebron James if some
(10:25):
of these young stars don't step into the role. Because
I mean Janice, I like Joannice. But is he a
is he a name that carries the ship or does
he carry the NBA logo? You know, is there is
Joel and Bead a guy that carries the logo? Is
you know Steph Curry? Is he a guy that can continue?
(10:49):
I mean he's not. He's not young anymore either. I
mean it's just to me, I think with Lebron James,
there's always going to be a level of protect and
and make no mistake about that same thing existed with
Michael Jordan when he was playing Let's not let's not
forget you couldn't touch Mike at one point in time.
You couldn't touch Michael Jordan's and I mean you couldn't
(11:10):
touch him in any regard. And and that was, you know,
that was by design. And I think that that's what's
designed for for you know, for Lebron. Yeah, it's uh.
And and you just watch how this whole thing is
played out. And I actually think if you were to
ask Lebron, he'll he'll never say this publicly um or
in this order, He'll never acknowledge this. But if you
(11:30):
were to ask Lebron James, all right, score, like, what
are your priorities. Top three al right, like top three priorities,
arrest of your career. Priority. Number one, he wants to
play with his son, which I totally get. What an
awesome accomplishment if he can pull that off. You know,
Ken Griffy, Ken Griffey Jr. Got to play together like
that would be awesome to see Lebron play with his son.
(11:51):
I think that's number one. Number two is a scoring title.
I think he wants to be the all time leading
score And then further down the list, we'll call it three,
but you know, feels closer to ten is winning another championship.
I just don't think that's really the goal anymore, because
even if he does win a couple of more, there's
still a segment of the population that's never gonna budge
(12:13):
from Michael Jordan is the greatest of all time? And
when when the Last Dance documentary came out during the
pandemic and people had nothing else to watch other than
Tiger King and you can only take somebody, uh, you know,
drug addict, you know, infested animal lovers and weirdos before
you get tired of that series. People were watching the documentary,
(12:34):
they're walking watching the Last dance when it was rolled
out every single week and they're going, my god, the
way Michael Jordan was presented, it just solidified what everybody
and a lot of people felt like going into this
was Michael Jordan's the greatest of all time. I don't
I don't think lebron can do anything to budge that
portion of the society. So I just think he wants
to play with his son, he wants to be the
(12:55):
all time leading score and then he walks away, probably
never winning another ring in his career. Here. I just
think that's where he's at. But hey, Frank Vogel, appreciate
your service, pal, Go go get a cocktail, find yourself
a cantina somewhere in UH told you as he got
(13:16):
all right, it is two pros and a cup of Joe.
Fox Sports Radio LaVar Arrington Jonas knocks with you here
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(13:37):
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can't even imagine Roberto is a is he fighting back?
He's the one man, Roberto just tell tell LaVar what
(14:20):
you just told me. In my ear there's that a
little bit all right, little two ball quarter pocket. Uh,
one of those unbelievable Yeah. So just you know, trying
(14:41):
to trying to do a show and uh and you
get that right before you come on the air. That's
always funa. Uh coming up in about ten minutes here, now,
there is somebody that's trying to change your NFL. They're
trying to change your NFL. There, trying to change football.
I'm not a fan of it. We will get into
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(15:02):
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(15:25):
contract incentive where he took part in like eight seconds
of a game last night. Uh, he fouled some dude
and then went to the bench and he hit his
Uh you know, he hit his requirements on his contract,
hit his incentives, and he made an extra three hundred
thousand dollars. Check out this for Trent Brown, Uh, the
offensive tackle the Patriots. This according to Mike Reaves of ESPN, So,
(15:50):
Trent Brown's got a two year deal with the with
the New England Patriots, and it's all based around weight bonuses.
So if Trent Round weighs three hundred eighty five pounds
are less on the first day of the off season program,
he gets a hundred fifty thousand dollars. If he weighs
(16:10):
three hundred and seventy five pounds are less on June one,
he gets another seventy five thousand dollars. If he weighs
three hundred sixty five pounds are less on July, he
gets another seventy five thousand dollars. And if he weighs
three hundred and sixty five pounds or less each Thursday
(16:31):
during the season, he's gonna get an extra twenty five
thousand dollars each week. So what does that tell you,
um that he's got a problem with his weight. No,
what it tells you is he plays at his best
at the like he must be one of the best
in the game when he's playing at that weight. And
they have a fine schedule, do they do they disclose
(16:53):
the fine schedule? I I don't see it here. I
wasn't get Do you get fine to like? It's the
other way. So you get rewarded for being at the
way you're supposed to be at, but you also will
get fined for being like I think it's every pound
from what your your your way is supposed to be.
Remember when Eddie Lacy was brought back in the NFL.
(17:13):
Uh and Eddie Lacey had a problem with with his weight,
and like they that was part of his contract, Like
that was heavily you know, included in his contract was
he had to be under a certain weight in order
to you know, hit his accelerators and all that. And
he actually came in and he looked a lot different,
but he was like a fraction of the player he
was because that weight like like that benefited him and
(17:34):
his running style and just being able to take some
of the punishment he took. I mean, yeah, I guess
for Trent Brown, if you're an offensive tackle dealing with
you know, speed rushers and things like that, probably not
great that he's you know, staring four pounds in the
eyes on the outside is especially if he gets older.
But it's just it's it's crazy to think, Hey, all
(17:54):
you gotta do is put the fork down and you
can make a significant amount of money, not through the
entire off season and once you get into the season.
Do you think he was thrilled with with these details
being put in the contract? You think Trump Brown was
happy with these Look at it this way, man, if
you got those type of incentives tied up into your
(18:15):
I remember I didn't like going off seasons with teams.
And when I redid my contract, the one time that
I redid my contract, it was based off of me
being present because they wanted me there in the off
season and I had to make nine of my my
workouts to get this crazy bonus and I was there.
(18:37):
So but how did you how did you structure what? What?
What were the ten percent that you would miss? Did
you sprinkle in a couple of days or did you
just show up ten percent late and then stay there
at the rest of the off season? Like how did
you structure? I was just there, Jonas, I was there
like that. That incentive was that bonus was like right
there staring you in your face. And it's like, Okay,
(18:59):
I'm getting paid aid to get in shape and get
in shape at the facility instead of getting in shape
in Jamaica, or or getting in shape in California, or
getting in shape, you know, in Florida. Like I'm getting
paid to get in shape here and in a Cabo
like Zeke Elliott when he was waiting for his contract
and he went to go train in Cabo. Okay, So
(19:22):
I mean all I'll say is is if I have
to lose weight to hit those type of incentives and
and bonuses, I'm gonna lose that weight. And that's the point,
and that's what they're hoping for. It's this is this,
this is a twofold scenario, right. The first fold is
you see what his commitment level is and what his
(19:45):
motivations are if he's hitting those if he's meeting those
those bonuses. Second fold is you see if he's if
he's in it or not by if he hits those bonuses.
It's almost the same. First and second fold are are
the same because if he shows that he's not willing
(20:08):
to to get his weight down, not even to be
like like think about it. You get your weight down
so that you can play well and get a contract,
good contract. If you can't get up for losing weight
to make money, then something's wrong with you. All right,
This is this is not the right right approach. This
(20:29):
is not the right deal for you. All right. Let
let me ask you this, all right, because I want
to know honest give me the honest truth here, all right.
I don't want none of this, uh, you know, play
it's safe here, Give me the honest truth and also
take a new account. This is the new England Patriots
and Bill Belichick we're talking about, right, Say Trent brown
Um is in the off season working out um, you know,
(20:49):
putting in the time, and you know, tweaks his ankle
or you know, yeah, hamstring, sprains his foot, whatever, and
all of a sudden he can't do the CARDI know
that that he was doing because he's got this issue.
And this happens with fighters all the time. They'll tweak
a knee or an ankle in a camp and next
thing you know, they come in there not in as
great as shape as they normally would be because they
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were dealing with this issue and so they couldn't get
the right amount of cardio in. Do you think Bill
Belichick is gonna, you know, let him slide and say,
you know what, we understand he had a little bit
of an issue. You weren't able to do some cardio.
I'll tell you what, here's your grand It's all good.
We know you're putting in the time. You think that's
gonna happen or the circumstances matter if he does that,
(21:34):
if he tweaks it and he's there and they're able
to monitor what the people at the facility are doing,
then there's that's a conversation. If he tweets it and
he's somewhere else and they can't monitor what he's got
going on, then that's not a conversation, not at all.
Because this amount of money on the table. You know
what I would do if I couldn't do any cardio,
I would just stop eating, stop drinking water. But you
(21:55):
want to do cardio, we'll do it this way. Right.
You can get into a pool and you can get
way more cardio going and doing pool workouts than you
can't even going onto a field and into a weight room.
So for me, I'm looking at it like there's nothing
that's gonna keep me from getting that bonus. Nothing Like
(22:18):
it's not I have a soft tissue injury to my
my hamstring and I couldn't lose ten pounds like no, man.
I I started doing a uh I start. I did
a two day cleanse, a detox cleans right, And I
don't have I don't have hundreds of thousands of dollars
connected to it. I just don't want to be a
fatass anymore. And and so for me, you know, I've
(22:41):
been I've been starting you know to to kind of
like reset my system, my metabolism and all that stuff,
so that I could lose weight. Like you, you can
find ways to lose weight, Like guys like that have
so much water weight. He could lose thirty pounds and
not even feel it. Now that two days lends that
you're talking about how that goes? Well? Well? Little uh?
(23:04):
I mean, bro, I got I got Oh, I got
tired of it. I got tired of the problem. Yeah,
that's the problem. Let me tell you something. If you
ever decided to do a detox and and a cleansing, um,
make sure you have um wet wipes and soft toiletician
because if you go paper like if you go if
(23:27):
you go like the thin heart paper toilet paper, it's
a wrap. Yeah, you want to talk about chap lips.
It's raining you who. I hear you? Now, I know
I can't you who either. Yeah, that's not not a
(23:48):
fan at all, especially if it wasn't you who. Now
here's the here's the other thing I'll say. With this
amount of money on the table, I mean I'm not
above throwing like a percentage at whoever's you know, handling
the scale to doctor that bad boy a little bit
and and make sure I'm underweight every time. Like if
if he's making a hundred fifty thousand dollars on the
(24:09):
first day of the off season programs, well, listen, I
a lot of those position coaches are not making that
much money. So if a hundred fifty thousand dollars, if
you throw some guy a grand and say hey, here's
a g why don't you make sure that that scale
starts off negative twenty so that I can weigh in
under three five and you can make a thousand dollars.
(24:32):
Figure that out. Man, I'm gonna tell you, like a
coach told me, cash rules everything around me. I mean, look,
if the astros can wear you know, electronic buzzers on
their stern um and get a shocked during a game
to tip off a pitch, somebody can figure out how
to adjust his scales of Trent Trent Brown can get paid.
Tired of this? Alright? Two pros and a cup of
Joe here on Fox Sports Radio coming up in about
(24:55):
twelve minutes from now. Uh, there's a future Hall of
Fame quarterback in the NFL and he has a connection
to a prisoner. A prisoner so we will get into
that story with all the details twelve minutes from now.
You gotta stick around, right, there's a connection between famer,
future Hall of Famer and a prison, a prison inmates.
(25:18):
This is this Deshaun Watson. Now, Jesus, Now, I was
just wondering just now you were getting no, no, you
gotta well, you gotta stick around. Trust me. It's and
and you uh, you will have some thoughts on this
and it hits a little close to home for you
as well. To la. There's that. Um, all right, did
you see so the USFL kicks off this upcoming weekend. Now,
(25:41):
I don't know if we're gonna be like drawing teams
from a hat, like we all have to pick a team.
There's like eight teams or whatever it is. Uh, it's
gonna be. It's a lot of fun. Just getting ready
to watch some spring football. You see what what the
USFL is doing though, Um, they're trying to change the
football we grew up with. So the USFL is now
doing this, Um, this electronic chip inside the ball with
(26:05):
the yellow line on TV. That is how they're going
to determine whether or not there's a first down. So
you know those chain gang guys where they bring out
the chain. What are we doing here? Can't we just
leave something alone? Like, I get it, Well, it's it's antiquated,
it's an outdated technology. I mean, these are changed. You've
got these guys, but that's what we grew up with.
(26:25):
There's nothing better than them stretching the chain out and
you're finding out whether or not you got a first
down or whether or not you were short. And they're
trying to take that away from the sticks. Pisces me off.
What are we doing here? Tell us? I mean you
don't feel like being progressive is important? I'll progress this. Look,
but people, I mean, at some point, there's nothing wrong
(26:46):
with the past. All right, there's nothing wrong with it.
We can continue on using the chain gang. Guys. They've
been here for years and years. They're not bothering anybody,
they're not hurting anybody. You do know, a lot of
things have changed as the game has evolved. What if
this makes things better? Okay? I mean what if it
speeds up the game where you don't have to come
(27:08):
out and bring the chains out? I don't I don't
need the game sped up at all. Like, listen, this
is what maybe people out there listening or like, yeah,
the games take too long. I know this is my job.
I'm not worried about you. How do the players know
what the distances to to the first down? Then if
you don't have to chain gang out there exactly, because
(27:29):
you still got to be able to see as a player,
where the sticks are. Like you play defense with the sticks.
Your coverages are about a sticks, Your routes are about
a sticks, your runs are about a sticks. A lot
of things are are measured by where the ball is
and relation to the sticks on the sideline. And so
(27:50):
how does that how? I'll be curious to see how
that works. That's what I'm saying that there's there's something
there's something nice about looking at a game and going,
you know what it How about those guys over there,
those guys holding up two sticks with a big chain
in between, and they're the ones determining how far you
need to go for a first down? There's something about that.
It's a it's a throwback. It's you know, from a
(28:12):
from a place years and years ago. It's what we
grew up with, and they're trying to take it away.
It's like they're trying to eliminate the kickoff. They're trying
to They're trying to change all these great things about football,
and I'm not having it. Electronic chips and balls? What
are we doing here, yellow lines? Let's figure this thing out, man,
Electronic chips and bowls. Yeah, it's interesting. Yeah is it?
(28:37):
What else? What else is it? Tracking? I don't know.
I don't even want to know the way this uh,
this whole compos what else? What other information is being
gathered from them their bowls? Who knows? But it is.
Have you noticed the pressure do they? Yeah? Dude, they
connected to the amount of well pressure, Um, that's in
(28:59):
no bro the balls? Well no, that's only if Jim
rcay bitches about it and complains because his team can't
beat Tom Brady. So then he just didn't want anyone touching.
I don't want anyone are perfect. I hear you, I
hear you, all right? Two pros and a cup of
Joe Fire. Sports Radio LaVar Arrington Jonas knocks at you
here on FS are coming up next one of the
(29:22):
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Do Do do Lap you guys? Big Ben is hanging
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him up, which means he's got a lot more time
to answer fan mail, including one uh one letter that
he got from Penn Powell in prison named Joe Exotic
reached out to Big Ben asking for an autograph for
his stepson, saying he couldn't afford the six autographed jersey
on eBay, seeing a big bank could help him out. Man.
This is how you know you made it. If you're
(31:34):
Ben Roethlisberger. You're getting mail from a drug addict in
prison Like that is like that's really a drug addict
or just a how do you think you're famous? Have
you seen his teeth? All right? Extic? Like the dude
from from The Tiger Show. Yeah, I mean I just
(31:56):
thought he was just a heck of a singer, like
they were in competition for the best best country singer.
He's got like a mouthful of butter. All right, come on, then,
oh my god, this guy's teeth. I've never really checked
him out that close floss with a jump rope saying,
you guys got to say, like what do we Yeah,
(32:17):
of course, like I mean it's kind of gross. Well,
you know, it is what it is. He's you know,
but you know Ben Roethlisberg. Now do you think now
is Ben going to send him the autograph or you
think that will happen? Yeah, but what is he? Uh?
Is he ever going to get out of prison? Or
is he just there until further notice? He's gonna be
there like he's been there a while. Yeah, he's gonna
(32:38):
be in there for a while. Remember he got COVID too,
I know, I know he put in an appeal. I'm
not sure if that obviously that didn't work out. I
didn't watch the They came out with a second Tiger King, right, yeah,
good enough for me. Yeah, I didn't watch it. I
just at the end of it, I just got depressed.
Because I was like, all right, well, I mean, the
nicest person on the show lost an arm, Like, what
(32:59):
is what am I doing in here? You know? It's
the the It's like Siegfried and Roy, but with a
couple of twists and turns. You know, all right, what
else we golly guys? After the MLB luckout, Rob Manfred
wanted to offer a little bit of a peace offering
a little small gesture of appreciation to all the players.
Bows wireless headphones put in each locker for every player,
(33:21):
and then you know what, hey, can you get round
of applause for Rob Manfred? Round of applause? What I'm
talking about? You know, that's what I'm talking I mean,
never mind the fact that he's the laughing stock of
commissioners in all of sports. Never mind the fact that
he let a team cheat and then insulted his own
world championship trophy, Rob Manfred, never mind all of that stuff.
(33:43):
Here we go. Here's some free headphones. Sorry about the
misunderstanding during the off season. I like it. What a
what a kind act and gesture of you know, let's
let's move forward together. Let's listen in harmony, thrilled our
faces throughout the postseason with a great performance. Hey, Rob
(34:05):
put down the gym beam by the way, you led
Dodgers to victory. That sounds like Harry Carey. Like he
sounds like Harry Carey, you know, battle backwards to phenomenal.
(34:30):
I remember working at this company, uh, and they were
just just awful to work for. One of the most
miserable jobs I've ever had. And I'm not going to
air him out, but pretty well known company. And I
remember working for him, and one of their incentives was, Hey,
if you hit to a certain percentage of your quota
by this month, And it was like really hot out
it was like July or August, and the air conditioner
(34:52):
was broke. They said, whoever gets to a certain percentage
by this time of the month, you can wear shorts
to work the rest of the month. Like that was
there and said everything I saw on a second. So
because you're too cheap to pay the electrical the electrical
bill and get your air conditioning fixed, like because you
don't want to spend the money on that, we have
(35:14):
to hit our quota by a certain time of the
month or else we have to suffer through, and then
our reward is we can wear shorts just like that.
That's what this feels like to me. So at least
these guys are getting headphones. We got to wear a
cargo shorts for half a month. I didn't even get
to wear I didn't hit my quotause I was terrible
at the job effort. Do you love it? Don't um?
(35:45):
By the way, if you want to make LaVar laugh
wherever he's at, just show him the Vince McMahon YouTube
complim lipulation. Why hey, losing it every time? LaVar is
a crier when he laughs real hard to tears. I
(36:05):
got tears of right there, Lee. What else have we
got you guys? The Bills have announced that they are
going to build the one point four billion dollars stadium
in Orchard Park, New York. Set the kickoff in well,
six hundred million dollars is at one point four is
coming from uh, not from taxpayers, but from state funds. Yeah,
(36:26):
And and people are mad because it took away from
like some education funds. That's more than public schools are getting. Yeah.
And that's why this whole, you know, inclusion thing became
a conversation, because these owners do have to answer to
someone other than themselves when using state funds. But you know,
I just listen, I can understand why there's some other
(36:48):
important issues that need to be tackled. No pun intended
in the state this and I get all that. Unfortunately, though,
this is the Bills we're talking about here, all right,
this is Buffalo Bills. Let me come on. There are
a good franchise. They've got a good team, they've got
a promising young quarterback who looks to be the real deal.
And these you know, they want to build a new stadium.
(37:10):
I haven't been to Did you ever play a game
in Buffalo? Yes? I have. Okay, I have to get
to that stadium before they tear it down because it
just reminds me of the Yeah, I know what that is. Yeah,
it's just it's say, differently than the one they use
these days. Yeah, just yeah, they call it a billball,
Yeah what that is? Yeah? Yeah, I uh see, I've
(37:34):
never been to a Bills game, but I know that,
Um you know something from my house has been to
a Bills game. I just like, I feel like that's
that's the important part of all. I've also seen Olympic
javelin throwers that those games as well. Yeah, you think
they snuck those in Hey Pagnan. Fox Sports Radio has
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