Lonzo Ball and Free Steaks

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Clay doing his job on his way to Paris. He
was in London all last week. It's very, very tough
life for Clay. Apparently so tough that he can't wear
a belt when he goes to Wimbledon. Maybe we will
discuss that here in just a little bit. So I

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am Jason Martiney, usually the executive producer of this program.
Of course, the guys out in l A. Still out
there in l A and down in North Carolina where
I spent a lot of my formative years is Jeff Schwartz.
He's usually on with us on Wednesday. Instead, we decided
we'd have him on for team straight hours this week. Jeff,
what's up. I'm glad to be here. I um, I'm

(01:05):
not a lawyer. I don't have kids. There are six
and nine and two. But I do like saying the
word penis. I feel like I'll fit in well for
this entire week. You certainly are. You made it through
exactly one sentence without getting the penis, and then I
made it about three or four. So now we said
it twice, so we're we're definitely off and rolling. Yeah,
I'm not gonna put on my lawyer hat yet, but
I'm gonna put it on before the week is out
because I'll help you. This is okay? Oh yeah, absolutely.

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So sports is happening. I don't know how much sports
is happening. There's Summer League basketball being played, there is
a home run derby tonight, there's an All Star game
tomorrow night. And because this is OutKick, we're probably not
gonna talk a whole lot about that unless someone's bat
goes up their key star. Because baseball has not really
been a big focus of this program, but a Lonzo

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ball has been a large part of this program, and
Jeff you being the Lakers talk that you are Danny
g and Justin Robert and Eddie Garcia and all the
fellows out there and aremin Oaks right now. They're just
losing their minds over the Los Angeles Lakers and hashtag
future Laker. This uh Friday was not a particularly good
day for your boy, Alonzo. It was not, but he

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made up for it, which is more important. He's growing,
he's learning, and um, you know the first game was disappointed.
I mean you to for fifteen and if you watched it,
he just chucking up threes and doing things that he
really didn't do it U C l A. And then
they come back next day, get a triple double, go
to basket, get assisted. We just need him as a
as a Lakers fan, and really the Lakers organization just

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needs him to get assists and look good and drive
guys to want to play in Los Angeles because you
know this next Phra agency is gonna be so big
for the team. Um that I'm just looking forward to
him doing that. I don't need him to score thirty
points a game. We need him to get fifteen assists
a game. How how big an erection are you gonna
have during the next off season. Jeff, oh, I'm wanna

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dreaming about it. I for sure Lebron is coming to
Los Angeles, and then it's a matter of if Paul
George and Russell Westbrook are both gonna come to Los
Angeles hashtag future Laker, and then it's gonna be just
back like the old days. Uh, Kobe Shack, they're dominating everybody,

(03:15):
Kobe Gassol dominating everybody. Um, you know, they'll clear, They'll
clear Dane's contract in February. They'll ship off Randall somewhere
they're they're clear that contract. They'll get a expiring contract.
In return, we'll have all this cap space. Lonzo ball
will be additional ball left and right all season. We
won't win many games, doesn't matter though, guys who want
to come play in Los Angeles. And I really think

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that Magic Johnson was brought in just to get these
guys like. He's not he's not going to do the contracts,
he's not gonna be scouting everybody. He's brought in to
bring the glory back to Los Angeles. Glory back to
Los Angeles. You mentioned Shack and Kobe. You know the
student gentlemen are not going to be sitting up for
the Lakers, right like they're more likely to be in
ice Cube's Big Three League than they are in the NBA.

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Will make sure, you know, like Gasol maybe, and he's
whatever's left the Gasol maybe. I don't know. We've always
had these superstars and they've always wanted to play Los Angeles,
and and along the way we've lost that. No one
wants to come to l anymore. And I think that
with Magic there and with Alonzo given the ball to everybody,

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the guys are going to want to play Los Angeles again.
One for eleven and on threes two for fifteen. Overall,
couldn't really find a range on his jump shot. Of course,
It's not like he was known to be a great
jump shooter even before he was drafted. So this is
going to be a work in progress. Remember, Jason Kidd
was Ason Kidd for a long time because he had
no j Alonzo. Don't you have a j in his name?

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So I have no idea exactly where it's gonna come from.
But as long as he's assisting and making other players better,
that'll be fine. So Friday was not a good day
for Alonzo ball and then he comes back and has
a triple double on Saturday. How excited were you when
you saw that based on what you saw on Friday,
Because apparently, from game to game in Summer League you
can go from either being a Hall of Famer to
complete scrup I had to take it with a grain

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of salt because Summer League is essentially rookie mini camp
in the NFL, So it would be the same thing
if ms Rabinsky went out the Bears draft pick number
two overall and had a great rookie mini camp and
we got all excited. So the first game goes to
for fifteen, You're like, okay, well it's it's it's it's
summer League. Like, well, he'll figure it out. And next

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game he goes to trouble double and I got way
too excited for knowing it's only Summer League, because it
showed that he improved his game over over one game.
He knew that he couldn't shoo as much as he
didn't choose many threes. In game two, he went to
the lane, he got rebounds, he ditched the ball out.
Now he's playing against guys who aren't going to make
Really the NBA, but it's still exciting. Nonetheless, I mean,
to see a guy have such a bad Game one

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and improve the game two is a Lakers homer. I'm
super excited about that. If there was another guy, I
wouldn't care at all. Is this the most you've paid
attention to early summer league play ever? Because you care
so much about how a Lonzo is gonna play in
l A. Yes, I didn't. I really didn't even know
some releague existed until this offseason they did whatever. I mean,
I knew that it existed in in Vegas vaguely. I

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had no idea that they had a summer league in Orlando.
I think it's Orlando, right, yes, yeah, no idea until
until because the Hornets, uh and Charlotte, you know, they
play in Orlando, and we covered a little bit here.
Not the slightest idea that they had a summer league
in Orlando. I mean, it's it's rookie minicamp, it's not.
It's I don't know why. For life of me, I

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have no idea why people are so excited about summer ball.
I mean, some people are living and dying on it,
especially people in the sports media. Because there has to
be something to fill time, and unfortunately Colin Kaepernick didn't
decide to join the Nation of Islam over the weekend
to content for about a week, no no one got
arrested in the NFL. It was a pretty It's actually
been a downtime for the NFL. Normally there's some story

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that pops up this time of year that covers a
good stretch of a week, and there's nothing so far.
So if you're an NFL player and you want to
do something stupid, please do it this week. Absolutely. Our
telephone number, by the way, as eight seven seven nine
nine on Fox. That's eight seven seven nine nine six
six three six nine. You can have your say at
any point during the show. You can call us out
or whatever. If you watched any of the Summer league ball,

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or if you didn't and you're just kind of basing
it on stats, whatever it is that you feel like
you need to do. Guys out in l A. Robert,
I know you mentioned this to me yesterday just when
we were kind of spit ball and talking about some
different things, um Summer League and this potential idea of
a seven on seven NFL league during the spring. How
do you just kind of explain that to those that

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might not know. Yes, Bucky Brooks from the NFL Network
NFL dot com is a great writer over there. He
was very impressed by the amount of Twitter traffic and
a lot of social media commentary about the summer League
and how it was kind of blowing up, especially on
Friday and Saturday night, and he thought, well, hey, if
the NFL, you know, always about making money, they see

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the kind of offseason marketing that they I go in
here where they're ex posing the fans too a lot
of unknown players. In this case, Lonzo Ball is a
very well known player. But he says, well, why wouldn't
the NFL do the same thing with a seven on
seven so that all of these rookie guys, Because outside
of maybe four or five guys in the draft, a
lot of casual fans don't recognize a lot of these

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other guys, So why not do a seven on seven
expose them to the fans so that way when they
start the season in September, they already have something to
get behind. Jeff thoughts injury risks anyway, teams will never
allowed something like that to happen. Well, injury risks aside,
I mean you know, you we practice, so I don't
think there would be much of a of an extended

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injury risk to do a seven on seven because no
one would get touched. You're probably more of a flag
football type thing right to in touch or you actually
have flags on, they're not gonna get in pads. I
just don't see the purpose in that because you're not
gonna have time to install many plays with such a
you know, young kids. You know, you essentially would have
to do it what right now after the nine week period,
and that's basically extra work that teams are gonna want

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to do and they're actually not allowed to do, and
you only have the nine week program and then otherwise
you're out, so you can't be with the coaches. You
have to extend that somehow, or you do it right
after the draft like summer ball is, which then guys
have never played with each other. It's gonna be sloppy,
they're not gonna know their plays. Um. I do think
that that The NFL rookies, though, do have exposure. People
know who they are. They followed NFL more closely than

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they followed the NBA. And look, you know, if you
look at the NBA Twitter this weekend. It really was
only covering three guys that I saw was Tatum, Faults
and Ball. I mean the rest of the players, no
one really cared about. Maybe maybe a little bit of
Dennis Smith Jr. But otherwise, I mean it's a small
group of NBA guys. I don't think that people would
care very much about an NFL seven on seven league. Yeah,

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and what would you learn from seven on seven anyway
if you're a rookie, like considering that's not the way
you would be playing, Like, what would be the difference
if you're out there in a seven on seven compared
to what you would actually face when you were in
an actual game. Oh? Nothing. I mean, it's the same
argument we have now, right when when you watch guys
practice in the spring, you say, well, it's just in shorts, right,
because we don't get to see him in pats. I mean,
I think you get a timing rhythm down with your

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quarterback a little bit, but then you lose that over
the summer, and then you come back obviously camping and
you can regain that. I'd rather see just teams train
with each other in the off season on their own,
like in the summer if a quarterback bring his wide
receivers together and do it on your own rather than
do a seven on seven. UM. I just don't see
teams wanting to expose their players to any extra risk,

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and they have to be Now you mentioned Dennis Smith,
there was a story came out this weekend Mark Cuban
made him scrub his Twitter feed, which meant to slang
in that would tweet went away, and I found that
to be one of the greatest tweets in the history
of Twitter. I said, I used slang in my wood,
probably in three or four tweets. After I saw that,

(10:46):
I tried it on my wife. It did not go
over very well. She's rolled her eyes at me to
use well both and both both got but I told
her I showed her the tweet to uh. Remarkable to
think about this though he was sixteen when he sent out.
I think the detectives on Twitter let us know, right
fifteen or sixteen. UM, I mean when I was fifteen

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or sixteen, I was barely talking to girls at that point.
So if I'm gonna be slaying some wood, I'm gonna
be slaying some wood and then tweet about it and
then saying it was God's gift that he has given.
He's been given this would to sling um just it
was so intense or fifteen sixteen years old, it was remarkable.
And I'm generally not four going back and finding someone's

(11:29):
old tweets and mocking them for especially in politics. I mean,
people can change their mind on things. It's okay, But um,
this was an excellent job by Twitter detectives finding this tweet,
and it made my draft nights so much better because
once you get past him, he was picked nine. What'd
you get past pick nine or ten? I feel like
the draft loses all steam. And to bring this out
was just remarkable. I used it so much for a

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week in in in Now, I'm probably gonna use it
again this week. Danny g this is a terrible situation
that Cuban made this tweet disappear. Right, slaying would in
my pants has to be one of the great tweets
of all time. Yeah, and are you surprised that Mark
Cuban is taking the fun out of Twitter? Yeah, that's
a good point. I mean, you got Smith right. I

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mean this should be a T shirt design like this
should not be taken off Twitter. This is let's put
this on every piece of merch we got. Let's put
it on hats, Let's sell two by fours at the building, like,
let's make this. Let's on to make this a big deal.
What else do you care about with the Dallas Mavericks.
What would be if they made like a hat or
a shirt? What would be the logo for the sling

(12:34):
in my wood? Would it be the actual piece of wood?
Would it be a wood shaped like a penis? Like?
What would it be? That's I don't know if you've
just taken it to another level. I didn't think about
a would shaped penis, but perhaps perhaps it would shape penis?
Is where we could go. Perhaps we could have like
some Olympic shot putter, like turn around and toss it
like into the air and that's slanging. That would that
would be your commercial advertisement. Something's gotta make people go

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to Dallas to watch those games. Even though Cuban said
if he was in the East, they would not be
any rebuilding. We can talk about that when we come
back out of the break. Also, because we talk about
a Lonzo ball, and we'll do a lot more of
that during the course of this next three hours or so.
We also have to talk about his father and his
father's grammar and Joe l embiid. So stick around you

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Jeff is on Twitter at Jeff Swartz. I'm at j
mart out kick fellas in l A doing what they do. So,
like I said, we talked about Lonzo Ball in that
first segment, and I guess maybe coming back with it
was a good day. You can talk about Saturday, certainly
not Friday. Or maybe that was sort of a play
for us to talk about Ice Cubes three on three league,
which maybe we will get to at some point. The

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problem with the three on three league quickly is that
every time I see it, I'm waiting for Lance Bass
to show up or Mona Davis or somebody like that,
because this has MTV, Rock and Jock all over it,
like even without the injuries, Like I could see Richard
Lewis squaring up for ten with Flea guarding him like
back in but like trying to watch this as legitimate sport.

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And originally they were coming here to Nashville and then
they moved that to Chicago. I was gonna go because
I felt like I had to see this. Jeff, if
you watched any of this three on three league at all,
it came to Charlotte last weekend, I did not go.
I was not wasting a beautiful Sunday afternoon to sit
in the Spectrum Center and watch it. Look, I mean
these are all guys that we watched growing up as kids. Um,

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now the game has moved beyond them. Like everyone shoots
threes now there's obviously a four point shot in the
in the three on three tournament, these guys just shoot
layups and jumpers like they used to back in the day.
I mean exciting at all. They're all getting hurt. Dudes
tearing their achilles there, need blowing their knees out. Um.
They actually they're paying a good amount. I know one
of the agents who has three of the guys and
I asked why you they're doing this? They go, well,

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they're paying them well to do this. Um, so I
guess they want some old gory, but I have no
interest in this. However, this is now an Olympic sport,
so I feel like we should pay more attention to
three on three basketball. I think for the Olympics will
be like Lebron and Russell Westbrook and Paul George together.
Is it gonna be just three random college dudes? Like,
what's what's the format for that? So you're assuming that

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the Lakers are playing in the Olympics, like the three
that's the three that came to my head since we
just talked about them. But I mean, is he gonna
be three just random guys or it's gonna be three
NBA rs. Yeah, here's Steven Jackson. I actually heard Ben
Mallar talking about this last hour, and this is pretty amazing.
He says, if you've got the top ten guys here,
meaning in the Big three league, he's one of them,

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we could beat an actual NBA team. Steve And I
don't know how to tell you this, Booby, but uh no,
you couldn't. Like I'm trying to think of what team
they could compete against. The thing is like they'd be
right for like six minutes and then all of a
sudden that situation with take over where Father Time is
playing against young athletes and there would be like two
of the five guys on the floor, or I guess

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two of the three guys that would be uncoverable after
about ten minutes. Like, who is it that's checking the
youngsters on this three on three league. I know that
all these veterans still think they can play, they can
play against each other, but this is not the same
kind of competition. This is the John McEnroe Serena Williams
situation here, and we don't want to open that ball
of Worhams again. But Steven Jackson and his crew can

(16:29):
can play against each other at the y like they're
about a year or two away from putting on the goggles.
I think kwam A. Brown is the youngest guy in
the league, or one of them, and he's chilling at
thirty five. And we're talking about kwam A Brown here,
We're not not exactly talking about one of the great
thirty five year old basketball players in the world. No
offense to kwam A Brown. Actually, yeah, offense to kualm A. Brown,
he was kind of a disaster in the NFL he
made or in the NBA he made a ton of money.

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But yet, uh, Steven Jackson just firing off a take
to get people to watch the three on three. I
would say, right like, this can't be legit. He can't
actually think they can compete against an NBA team, Right,
Maybe he's gotten so worked up over playing now, like
his adrenaline is going, he's excited to finally be back
on the court, that he's just overvaluing how he thinks
the talent level was for the Big Three. I think

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that I go back to this point. If they were
to play a team of players now, the players now
would be shooting threes and would score more points than
them shooting two. Is playing simple plus athleticism. You know,
of course, if we take that you year old playing
against guys forty years old, it wouldn't be close. But
I just don't To me, I guess I don't see
the fascination in the Big Three unless you are a

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die hard NBA fan and these are the players that
you grew up watching you want to see them play again.
But look to me, I don't. I'd rather watch a
YouTube clip of Alan Iverson when he was balling out
and then watching old Allen Iverson playing in a Big
three tournament. Now, yeah, I would agree, fellas. I think
I heard you guys talking about this. I don't know
I heard Danny talking about it. I think Eddie Garcia
in particular just napalmed the three on three league and

(17:56):
VS comments certainly as well. But you have have you
guys watched any of the US What do you think
of this? Yeah, I think you guys are being a
little harsh. Of course we are. I mean, I know,
I know that that's you know, what sports talk radio
does is usually it's the negative route. I would say,
give it, give it a chance. I mean, yeah, it's
not these guys in their prime. But that's the whole point.

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And if you watched when ice Cube they did like
a special behind the scenes the first Monday that this
aired on FS one, and ice Cube explained why he
came up with the idea, why he thought it would
be good to see some of his childhood idols ball again.
So you gotta take it for what it is. There
has been some exciting games, and there's been some boring ones.

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I've seen a couple of great matches, and I've seen
some that were a snooze fest. So I would say,
just give it some time and and watch an entire Monday. Oh.
I mean I watched a couple of games when I
was on a treadmill, and I mean, it's fine when
I there's no remote incess, no remote close by, and
which I can change the channel. But you're talking about
ice Cube said this. He said this stup because he
wanted to see some of his heroes play. It's like,

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I mean, I could book the gin Blossoms and Cracker
to come play at home. But that doesn't necessarily mean
that that's a good idea. I do. I don't think
it's a bad idea. It's a fun little diversion. But
let's not let's not overreact and say that it's going
to change the world. I am intrigued by three on
three in the Olympics, but that's gonna be much different
than Richard Lewis firing it into the paint to Kuombe
Brown and a quarter court game for forty minutes or

(19:24):
however long ago, Jason, you know me here back in
Los Angeles, that one of my favorite genres of all
time and movies is old guys doing stuff. O. God,
are we talking Las Vegas already? It's only Monday. Will
wait till Tuesday to get really get into the great
But you know, even I had to give it on
the Big Three after the first the first night, I'm
gonna get into it after that. When you're a basketball
guy just like I am, Like, I mean, we watch

(19:44):
a ton of NBA You what, and you like old
guys exactly right? I mean maybe if Morgan Freeman and
who else is in Las Vegas? And Robert de Niro
is he in that? Yes? Well, okay, probably probably drill
from talking about old guys. It's Michael Douglas, is Kevin
Klein's Morgan Freeman's with an S. What my big about

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the Big Three is is that why would you want
to watch guys that are at the top of their
game play any sport? Like It's It's already hard enough
to to watch sports at times with the best guys playing,
because you know, the NBA regular season is so boring
that why would you want to watch guys who are
in their prime play basketball for two hours on a
Monday night? Guess there's nothing else to watch on Monday
night this time of year. But I just don't see

(20:28):
the fascination with watching sports um that don't have the
best you know, don't have the best athletes playing. Yeah, well,
the best athletes will be in home run derby tonight
and we'll we'll talk a little bit about that, I
guess at at some point, at some point during the show.
But let's turn a corner and talk about Lavore because
it's almost good that he exists right now, in particular

(20:50):
because we do need somebody to say dumb stuff. I
know the audio is ready to fire out there. This
is Look, this beef with Joe l Embiid kind of
got out of control. There was a post we can't
play Joel Embad's audio. It was just one sentence and
there was an F bomb involved. Actually was like four words, right,
There are three words, as a matter of fact, and
one of those is is inappropriate, and the other two
is LaVar Ball. So you can kind of gather where

(21:13):
where that came from. But LaVar Ball's response to Joel
Embiid is comical on about seven hundred different levels. Here's
a snippet or pieces of his comments to TMZ about
uh Joel emb good morning to the big ballers. Yeah, sir,
are we doing it? Good morning? You know how we're doing?
Find his wine two times for your mind? How we doing?
La melow morning? Man? You guys ready for the Summer

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League or summer lea. You're about to get down, man,
We're about to set it off for Goodlonzo's gonna be
m VP at the Summer League? Or what would you think? Anything? Anything?
Or I love you deck out in the in the
Zoe's look at those the zoo. Yeah, well we were fresh,
super fresh. He's gotta be like that. And then I
gotta ask you, man, you know your your your your
reaction to Joel embiad st f LaVar ball Andy. He

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said that he got three words because his vocabulary is limited.
That's why you gotta use customers where you don't have
no intellect. Okay, you don't think he's the most intelligent man, No,
he's not each other then at all. He's worried about me.
He should be worried about playing right now. Now, what
what's gonna happen? I've got three word for him? I
can't play at all. Shoot, that's fall right now now
what's gonna happen when you guys played the seventies six

(22:21):
years you guess what? He won't even be on the court? Problem? Really? Yeah,
are you predicting another injury? Not injury or something much?
Another injury? Plague? Season always always plagued. It's gonna be heated.
Are you gonna be in attendance? Being at But I'm
not gonna worry about him. He's small. Change are you small?
He's small? Right? Was he working here? I think LaMelo

(22:44):
rookie of there. I don't think he was looking at
I think he was. I'm not sure exactly. Are you
gonna be in his eer? Donna be in his heer?
And I'm not gonna waste my time with the young fellow.
What do you got to say that people who think
you're gonna be a distractions to the Lakers? People to
think that I'm gonna be a distraction, they already a distraction.
Could he worried about being right? What I'm saying you
have anything, We're gonna be fined. We don't keep going forward.

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asked the guys and they were already well ahead of
me on this. There's one question and answer that from
LaVar Ball. If you missed that entire audio, we'll play

(23:48):
it again for you at some point here this morning.
But one piece of this question and answer before we
even react to this, we need to hear this again, gentlemen.
Good reason he said that he got three words because
there's vocabulary here is limit too. That's why you gotta
use customers where you don't have no intellect. Okay, you
don't think he's the most intellegent man. No, he's not
intelligent at all. He's worried about me. He should be

(24:08):
worried about playing. Quote, you gotta use cuss words when
you don't have no intellect. Unquote. Let me tell you
what you can't do, LaVar, when you're talking about somebody's intellect.
You can't say things like you gotta use cuss words
when you don't have no intellect. Jeff thoughts. Uh, when
I saw this, I just it's classic of our ball man.
I mean, it doesn't look good for him, but it

(24:31):
looks good for TMZ. I mean he's just gonna constantly
make these outrageous quotes. People are gonna eat it up.
He's constantly going to be in the headlines. Uh, TMZ.
M as will just follow him around and and they're
gonna have a reality show now and um so he's
gonna be the new Chris Jenner of the NBA. Does
that mean he's gonna win an sp Does I mean
somebody in his family is gonna win an sp I?

(24:53):
I don't know about that. Well, no one's gonna winn
sp I. I I don't Well, we don't know, We don't
know what's gonna happen with this family, but he's gonna
I mean, this is what he wanted. He wanted to
get all the tension. He wants to sell she not.
I have a question about his shoes though, so he
went ahead and made Laker color Laker colors um for
his shoes. Is he telling enough to just constantly put

(25:14):
out different brands and styles of his shoes? It's a
really good question. Guys, what do you think LaVar balls
net worth is right now? I'm sure we could look
this up, but I'd rather just speculate randomly, any idea
that's what LaVar Ball is worth? Half a million? A million?
Maybe what was his job or what is his job

(25:38):
trainer for the past couple of decades? Okay, I mean
he looked decent with his shirt off when he you know,
guy came at the MISS after all a couple of weeks.
It's got an odd statement for me to make there,
But he's not intelligent at all. He's worried about me
he should be worrying about playing, and then talked about
him being being on the injury list more than on

(25:58):
the court. That's pretty good shot there, but you got
to use custo words when you don't have no intellect
pretty much destroys anything else that you're gonna say during
that time frame. I got three words for him, can't
play at all. Oh shoot, that's four LaVar Ball. How
upset We're wrestling fans. When LaVar Ball came into into

(26:20):
into the ring, I heard it. It didn't go over
over very well with wrestling fans. No, it did not,
And this is kind of the way it generally works
in pro wrestling. Pro wrestling fans, by and large want
to see pro wrestlers. They want to see people that
they know. A lot of pro wrestling fans probably don't
really even know all that much about LaVar But all
you had to know to know that that did not

(26:40):
go well is that they brought out Alonzo by himself,
after bringing out LaMelo and LaVar coming out, then they
bring out Alonzo and they put up the Lakers logo
and he barely got a reaction at all in Staples,
four days after he was drafted to be the new
face of the franchise. That's really all you need to
know to know just how not over This segment was

(27:02):
in front of a w W audience. But this happens
all the time when they bring on music acts, even
fairly well known music acts. People sit on their hands,
they go to concessions, they use the restroom. I want
to thank Pitbull personally for allowing me to pee during
WrestleMania this year, because I was able to actually leave
my seat down in Orlando for the only time in
like eight hours to use the restroom with him and
lunch Money Lewis hit the stage. But that's generally how

(27:24):
it works, so I don't know the crossover appeal there.
But Alonzo, they thought a Lonzo was gonna get a
much bigger reaction they did. There's no way around that.
And then LaVar was just a clown show. But he
had a good time and you had to know going
in that that's what he was going to do. Some
people claim it's the worst thing in the history of television.
A lot of like wrestling journalists that I know in particular,

(27:45):
just skewered this thing. I think you have to see
it for what it is. LaVar Ball is what LaVar
Ball is. He's basically Don King, but taller and maybe
with a little bit of a better build. He's trying
to make money for his family, and he knows that
he has a limited window with which to do that.
If Alonzo flames out, what's gonna happen to the Ball family.
That's something we're gonna continue to discuss throughout the morning.

(28:07):
As a matter of fact, Um, there's problems for the
for the Ball family, Like now is now the time
to do this reality show? It is for us because
it could be absolutely insane. But you've got one kid
that's gonna be stuck down in Chino. And and I
told Robert yesterday when he mentioned this to me, I
don't know the West Coast, but I watched the o

(28:27):
C and Chino looked rough when I watched the o C.
That was not a good place to be at all.
So he's gonna be down there. And then you've got
the other kid that's probably coming off the bench at
U C l A. So if you've got those two
situations that are sort of tumultuous and then Alonzo struggles
out of the gate, what is the condition guys of
the Big Baller brand? Six months into Alonzo's career in

(28:51):
the NBA, like around February, what are we talking about
right now? Well, I think LaVar knew that he had
to do all this now when Alonzo was hot, because
like you said, if he struggles at all, you know,
the heat will be off the family. And so if
you start the reality show, now you get it, you
get the ball roll. Now you cover Alonzo as he

(29:11):
is becoming a laker, getting all his money doing the
things that you would do in Los Angeles as a
as a big dog. Um, that'll sell and then if
he plays well, it'll it'll sell even more. And that's
what his goal is. Obviously. If Alonzo plays well, they'll
sell a bunch of shoes. He'll make a lot of money.
I want to add this though. We had Steve Alford
on the radio and Charlotte and he's used to his
head coach, and we asked him a ton of questions

(29:32):
about LaVar. Now, he maybe he was he was not
being truthful or not being totally forthright because he knows
he has the two kids coming in. But he said
that LaVar never talked to him about his son at all.
He never called him, never talked to him on the court. Um,
he didn't do any of the things that he was
accused of doing in Chino as far as yelling out
a different defense for the team to play than the

(29:54):
coach wanted. Uh, never gotten Alford's face. Um, you know Alonso,
I think Alonso. We can tell that Alonzo is different
than his dad, and any appearance that he makes with LaVar, um,
he's almost the opposite, right, even the wrestlement not wrestlement
in the wrestling appearance, like he didn't really do anything.
He just kind of stood there, and all the TV
shows he's been on, he just kind of stits to
the side. Um. So I think that Steve Alford at

(30:16):
least gave an endorsement for LaVar Ball. I was surprised
that he didn't say at least anything controversy at all
to us on the radio. Well, he might lose his
job if he does. I'm not sure Alonso doesn't run
U c l A at this point, or LaVar doesn't
run it. If you have thoughts on the Vara Ball
by the way, or this entire situation, if you watched him,
if you watch a Lonzo this weekend, if you listen
to any of this, what a quote by LaVar Ball,
by the way, We're gonna have to play that again.
Eight seven seven nine nine on Fox eight seven seven

(30:38):
nine nine six six three six nine l A, guys,
give me a Chino history lesson. How is was the
O C correct and its depiction of Gino? I need
to get out to the West coast, but I'm not
sure Gino is where I want to go. While if
you're going to compare it to the O C. I
guess so. Yeah, But I mean the area that the
Ball family lives in is a pretty affluent neighborhood of Ino.

(30:59):
You don't say, yes, Yeah, there is a prison in
Chino Hills, so maybe that's why gets some of the
bad rap that it's gotten. But yeah, there's suburbs there
as well. Where the median income is I want to say,
around seventy thousand, Okay, I mean I see. I mean
you guys are making like twice that though, So I
mean that's pretty low, are you kidding? Triple We work

(31:21):
for Fox. I'm not making that, so I guess. I
guess that's seniority. You guys have been here a longer money.
I'm paying Fox to let me work with you. Guys.
I shoot him a couple of Benjie before the show starts.
Thank you, guys. Robert Sacrifice Robert. Robert has a Triple
B T shirt on right now, so you know he's banking.

(31:43):
That's that's that's utterly ridiculous. We got to play to day.
Coming up on the other side, we'll continue to talk
about LaVar Ball as well. Eight seven seven nine nine
six six three six nine, or you can find us
on Twitter. Out out kick, We'll be right back. This
is out Kick the Coverage. I'm Fox Sports Radio Live
from the Guy Go of Fox Sports Radio Studios. This
is indeed out kicked the culture. Jason Martin, Jeff Schwartz,
and for Clay Travis. He's on his way to Paris today.

(32:04):
Tough life that that gentleman leads. It's time for the
getic player the day. Jalen Brown said to begin his
second season for the Boston Celtics, Jayson Tatum looks every bit.
The study wasn't Durham, but Brown had a hell of
a summer league last year at sixteen, six point two
and two point three. Then in a regular season he
averaged six point six, two point eight and zero point eight,
which means a lonzo ball may actually average negative points

(32:28):
if you look at the deflation right there. However, Brown
got straight nasty in a summer League match up over
the weekend against the Portland Trailblazers and folks. This is
one iconic call. Check this out well obviously, Uh in
the first game, Uh, Glass at as strong as he
needs to be, but he's nineteen and that's gonna come.
But he has there's a great six cricket game. He

(32:51):
has a great sex poss he can shoot, he rose
with cours that front, he's he tests every shot. Uh,
he has probably one of the better field. Yeah, that
was the play of the day. It was not the
call of the day. Uh my goodness. That was just
absolutely filthy ruckus from Jalen Brown, just posterized as poor

(33:12):
Portland player, absolutely nasty. And the announcers apparently Summer League
is not just for the players, it's also for the
broadcasters as they're apparently trying to learn how to call
basketball games. Because Jason or Jalen Brown's point was not
even made. They were worried about Zach Collins. That's absolutely
fantastic and that's your playing of the day. Great news.
There's a quick way you could save money. Switched to Geico.

(33:34):
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Jeff iconic call or most iconic call of all time,
most I kind of call of all time? That had
to be a coach they were interviewing at the same
time as this was going down, because that was way
too technical for it to be even just uh, an analyst,
because they didn't even even if it's an analyst talking.

(33:55):
And I've done a couple of football games and you know,
you're in the middle of a conversation and something really amazing.
How when you stop and at the play by play
guy at least fill people in on what's gonna happen,
especially if you posturize a guy like that. It was
nasty though, Guys, you saw that, you saw that dunk
this weekend, and when when we were talking about what
the play of the day was gonna be, we're like, oh,
we'll go with Jalen Brown. And then we heard the
call and we realized that it had to be the

(34:17):
Jalen Brown call. Like, how in the world do you
not just stop on a dime and say, oh, my god,
he just murdered a man on the floor. Yeah, Jason,
this is kind of like when we have a really
good story of of of a grizzly bear killing somebody,
and you guys use it as one of the stories.
We grabbed the audio and we're all excited, and you
just hear somebody speaking in a foreign language and there's

(34:38):
really no sound of death. And it's a letdown. A
nice tease because we will be talking about a bear
like gnawing on someone's head at a campsite later on
Animal Thunderdome. There's a tease for you. Clay might be gone,
but Animal Thunderdome is very very much alive. So Jalen
Brown got it done, and we'll stick with the Celtics quickly.
Jason Tatum in terms of being able to make difficult shots,

(35:01):
now he did this at Duke, but his turnaround game,
his fadeaway game, his contested shots, offensive game, this dude
is gonna be an absolute stud. It looks like he's
gonna be one of those kind of unguardable players from
about fifteen to eighteen feet. A whole lot of teams
can do a lot of work with that. Boston's gonna
be a lot of fun to watch. Is a guy

(35:23):
who is great from fifteen eighteen feet? Does that matter
in the NBA as much anymore now because guys shoot
so many threes. I mean, Houston is just shooting layups
or threes. Is a guy who can create for fifteen eighteen.
That's more of an old school type player. Does he
fit you know, today's NBA style? I mean to still
count like, I mean they help, Like you definitely have
to have guys frees in the East, you don't need

(35:44):
as much honestly, Like those guys aren't drooling it out.
If with with Tatum and with Hayward and Isaiah Thomas,
are they gonna be able to beat the Cats? I mean,
that's what it comes down to. His being able to
beat Lebron James. Well, I think that. Look, they lost
Avery Bradley and he was a great defender for them,
but they kept Jay Crowder, who might be a better defender,
and he's somebody that can guard more positions on the floor.

(36:06):
He's more versatile as a defender, and he's a definite
irritant on the on the floor that way, so they're
gonna be able to defend. Tatum is never gonna be
an all world defender, but he did get a couple
of blocks, uh so far in summer league, and he
is certainly learning that side of the game. He's not
a bad free throw shooter. He's somebody's gonna be able
to play very, very versatile basketball for you. Can he

(36:26):
beat the Calves? I think the question is gonna come
down to injuries again. It's like, if one of those
three goes down, then yeah, and Boston's probably gonna make
it interesting either way. I heard at least one expert
say this yesterday, and I agree, Danny Aings did a
really good job during the off season because he didn't
leverage the assets for the future. He can win now,
but he knows he can win later. So he's in

(36:47):
a position where he can win now, but he's also
gonna be really in the hunt in three or four
years when all of this starts to develop and move
around and he's able to actually use some of these
picks to make some of these moves. I know, Danny,
you love Jayson Tatum, as did I, and so far,
there's really nothing that I have seen that is telling
me that we were wrong on that case. Jason Jayson

(37:08):
Tatum looks awfully good, and he looks like man, they
were able to trade out of that number one spot uh,
get out of there and still get the guy that
I think fits their team a lot better than Foltswood
based on how many guards they already had. Yeah, and
you know, Justin Cooper was actually there in Vegas watching
Lakers Celtics and I was asking him to give me,
you know, an eye test on Alonso, and so he

(37:29):
gave me, you know, maybe a thirty second rap on
on Alonzo. He's like, you know who's really stood out
though on the on the floor. Jason Tatum. So now
you hear everyone's singing. His praises were kind of early
on him because we saw his last year in college
that he really just stood out. He seemed like a
level above everyone else on the floor. What do you
guys think in terms of just fifteen to eighteen foot

(37:51):
being kind of outdated? Now, Like, I still think he's
real valuable in that spot. Now, you definitely have to
have some distant shooters, but not everybody can be distant shooters.
I you've gotta guy that can stand in somebody's face,
fall away and make it from seventeen feet pretty consistently.
To me, that's a pretty big asset. Oh. Absolutely, And
I think Jeff would agree with this on this one
as well. The way Jayson Tatum has performed in summarly

(38:12):
thus far, he could be future Laker material. Oh my god.
And that's the most most important. That's the ultimate compliment
you give to any basketball players. So what is the
new future Laker? Count? Like, name the guys that are
gonna be future Lakers. If you want to fire the
audio between each one, can you do it in a minute?
Knock yourself out? Yeah? I hope. So, guys the starting
five right now, which it's a fluid list, as you know,

(38:33):
but it's a Russell Westbrook future Lake hashtag future Laker.
But we're used to doing it on our own guys.
Clay Thompson hashtag future Laker. Paul George hashtag future Laker.
Lebron James hashtag future Laker. Anthony Davis hashtag future Laker.

(38:53):
Who's coming off the bench, Damian Lillard hashtag future Laker.
Davis is for sure coming in l a hashtag future Laker.
How is Oh that's a good point. We have room
on the bench for into hashtag future Laker. I don't
know he's gonna sign whether if you can't pronounce his

(39:14):
name correctly. Oh, that's exactly how you say it is.
It really is under the um both yes, hey k
K A Greek frizzy future. Oh my gosh, Jason, you
can't talk about Los Angeles when you're only knowledge of
something California is from the show The o C. That's

(39:34):
that's that's disrespectful to the area. That's what California is.
It's so much more than that. It's uh, you need
to come visit. You will, you would love it. All right,
we'll talk more about California and hashtag future Lakers coming up.
Stick around this is I'll kick the coverage on Fox Sports. Right,
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(39:54):
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You can follow me at j mart Out kick guys.
We needed news to break, We needed something big to
happen today in the world of sports, and it has

(40:17):
breaking news. Breaking news from Fox Sports reports, NFL broadcast, Lose, Viagra,
and see Alice as major advertisers for the upcoming season.
TV ad sales have been a little bit down this
offseason erectile dysfunction drugs. Last year, these two companies alone

(40:40):
spent more than fifty million dollars airing commercials during NFL games.
None this year. Apparently it's about patents and pharmaceutical patents
and all of these other kinds of things, but we
know what it's really about. It's because old men whose
cranks don't work, don't like Colin Kaepernick kneeling during the
national anthem, Jeff No erect all dysfunction ads during NFL

(41:04):
games like this is a huge, huge loss for the NFL.
I love for someone to call in who's watched one
of these ads during a football game and thought to themselves,
I need to go out and pick up a product
that I just saw advertised during my favorite football event.
I'm so excited, like like I need to find I
need to have someone calling and say I went out
and bought some viagraphter watching it during my favorite football game. Look,

(41:29):
there was the one, I don't know which which company
it was, the one where you'd see the uh, the
man throw the football through the tire. Like at least
that one was sort of on message during the NFL game.
I just love these ads. I watched them because they're
just the way they set up the relationship between the
man the woman, Like how they're getting this, you know,

(41:50):
how they're getting into bed together, how they're planning their
day out around taking the medicine. Um, it's just fascinating
because it's not the life that I think a lot
of us live. Is a life where you just on
a boat and then you just go have dinner and
then you take a pill and you go have fun
for the night. So it's the commercials are amazing. They're
just amazing to watch. I'm disappointed I won't be able
to watch him anymore. Yeah, Like, how many guys, how

(42:11):
many like couples have like matching bathtubs that are like
six inches away from one another where they're looking into
each other's eyes while they're toweling and loofing each other's unmentionables. Like,
how often is this happening? I'm not married, so Clay
would say, I don't have a vote, but I don't
believe that this is a common occurrence. I'm I'm married,

(42:34):
I'm young still, and um, I yeah, we don't have
matching bathtubs. Um, it's taking a pill. It's not gonna
want it's not gonna make my wife want to sleep
with me anymore. So, um, I'm I've stayed away from
doing those type of events. Robert, I see an update
to this story. What's the reason they're burying the lead

(42:56):
a little bit on this one? And we're burying it
all right with this story. The big headline here is
both Viagrass and see Alice will soon be available as
generic drugs. Therefore their makers no longer feel the need
to advertise the name brands. Okay, I mean I can
just go to like Kroger and take yourself local cvs.

(43:16):
They's gonna be over the counter now, I believe. So
this is huge. This is a game changer. This is
huge in more ways than one. They were they were
I didn't realize they were prescription drugs. I thought you
can just get them over the counter, now, haven't they
always went prescription drugs if you know somebody only from

(43:38):
a doctor or Craigslist. So during the break, Jeff said
he had a story. I will say that I'm glad
the guys in Los Angeles let me know the proper
words to using this story. So I don't get dumped.
My first day, um lay. So I had a buddy
call me and and he says, hey, I'm in the
hospital and I said for what. He said, well, I've

(44:01):
had an direction now for twenty four hours. And I said,
I said, excuse me, um, and he's like yeah, And
I'm like, well, why did you take a viagaraciality? No? No,
no, no no, I swear I swear I didn't take that.
So I didn't take that. And I said, that's come on,
buddy like that don't want to me And he's like,
no, no no, I swear. It's just it just won't go away.
Like it was there all night. I woke up in

(44:21):
the morning and it just it just didn't go away,
he said. I think he said he went about his
day and then decided to go to hospital. So I
don't know what he did during the day as far
as trying to hide that thing, um, but he did
his work and so then day two. So now we're
on day two and he still has the direction. It
won't go away. In the hospital, had tried everything and
he um, he said they were gonna cut it open

(44:42):
like drain like drain it like they have to like
filate it open and drain it out. And I think
when they told him that news, it just subconsciously just
it went down and he was fine. But he swore,
he swore in his life he didn't take any of
his medicine. I don't believe him for one second. How
do you have a two day, two day erection and
not have any medicine in you? That's crazy to me.

(45:04):
Apparently there was a snake in his boot, and the
doctor said, by the way, they had no idea what happened.
So I think my buddy's lying to me. That doesn't
seem to add up, No kidding, take that for data
the story and then lie about the viagra part of it.
That's a that's definitely a valid point there. If this

(45:25):
might be the most out kick statement in the history
of this show. If you have erection stories eight seven
seven nine nine six six three six nine, it's our
telephone number eight seven seven nine six six three six nine.
I don't know if you can beat that one two days.
Wouldn't that be held up like who is who is
it that wants that? Who needs that? But you can't
get you can't go to the store. Wow, that was

(45:47):
really unnecessary you're telling us what we can't say, and
then you make that drop and we got the horn
like seven hundred times as well. I can't believe it too,
like two days, like you couldn't you literally could do nothing,
like supposedly he went about his day for the first
for the first day, And okay, I I don't I

(46:08):
don't think I believe that story. You guys in La
believe that story two days without pharmaceuticals. I don't know
if that means you're you don't want to comment. No,
that means it's a bunch of hooeye. Okay, it can
mean a lot of different things. Those crickets, I've heard
them numerous times on this show for varying reasons. But yes,
so no Viagor and c Alis adds how many how

(46:31):
many of those do we see last season? You think
two or three a game at least? I don't know.
I see I don't watch commercials anymore because I either
watched the red Zone or I flipped somewhere else when
they go to commercials. The worst thing on Earth is
when both games go to commercial at the same time,
Like that should actually be a federal offense, Like you
should not have to sit there and watch commercial breaks
during NFL games in well, if you're watching the Red

(46:55):
Zone channel that they show highlights of previous games normally.
The Red Zone Channel, by the way, is to me,
the greatest sports watching invention of all time. There's nothing
better than that. You sit down on a Sunday. I
have three TVs in the room, luckily, and so I
put on two games and the third TVs Red Zone Channel,
and you can catch up on all the games, watch
all the highlights. Um if you're a fantasy player, it's

(47:16):
has everything that did you ever need right there, and
it's a it's it's the best sports watching invention ever created.
Oh wow, I just went in full click ravits mode. There.
I was hoping I was not gonna say percent at
any point during this week, and I made it exactly
one hour and then into the next segment and then
here we go. By the way, I also thought Jeff
was gonna say he had three kids, but instead he

(47:38):
said I have three I have three TVs. Hey, did
you know that Clay has three kids and their ages
are nine, six, and two in that order. I was
not aware of that. No. Yeah, and that he has
a lawyer hat first of all, that he likes to
put it on from time to time, that he worked
in democratic politics, voted for Barack Obama twice, and helped
try to get Al Gore elected. Um. God, there's so many.

(48:00):
There's so many Clay travisisms. It's it's absolutely outrageous. At
this point, it is patently absurd. You are indeed correct
on that one. You've made it an hour and ten
minutes down. You haven't said lawyer had yet. So I'm
proud of you. Actually I did. I said it right
at the top. I said I'm not gonna put my
lawyer hat on yet. No, I'm saying I thought I
figured you'd put your lawyer had on by now talking
about something. Yeah, I don't think there's been a legal

(48:22):
story yet. This might be the closest. But you know
this is just generic drugs and VIAGRAA and c alis.
Now there might be a court case to be had
for I don't know, some kind of deceit or lying
on a two day erection like that's that's really scraping it.
If you're trying to that's a reach. Like if you
had said four hours, I'd say, okay, that was a
pretty good night. For you. Two days is the is

(48:43):
the minimum you can go before you you're supposed to
call the nine one one, So four hours I think
it is not even long enough before you call nine
one one. I agree that, yes, I would definitely be
calling the authorities. Who would even want for a four
hour erection? Exactly? All you need is about forty seconds? Well,

(49:03):
I mean sure a little a little more, but I
mean between four forty seconds and four hours is about
right on which side of the scale though, like closer
to forty or closer to four hours closer. Yeah, we're
gonna get into more locker room stories. They have been
way too many locker room stories from you since you

(49:23):
started doing these shows, and some of them have nearly
gotten us kicked off air. So I figured, you know,
at some point this week we have to find a
way to make that happen. So we talked. For some reason,
red Zone came up during that situation, and regular season
NBA is not going to be fun to watch because
it's Warriors winning the championship next year. I hate to
go ahead and spoil that for you. I never have

(49:43):
been a lot of moves, a lot of fun things happening. Sorry,
future Laker, maybe not present Laker. Are they making the
playoffs this year? You guys think they're making the playoffs.
I think they're gonna slide into the eighth seed. What
do you think? Does it really matter? It doesn't matter, though.
I mean if they if they don't make the playoffs,
they'll have a lower level lottery pick. But I don't
think it matters this year. What matters this year is

(50:05):
that they clear the Dane contract and Lonzo Ball looks
like he's having fun and he kind of brings that
showtime by back to Lakers so they can get all
the fradges next next offseason. Otherwise, I don't really care
what they do. I mean, they could win fifteen games,
don't matter to me. But as long as they show
promise for the future and we get all these guys
to come, Lebron and Paul George and Westbrook, your thunder
Jason are going to be just destroyed after this. You're

(50:27):
gonna hte us forever. Maybe we resigned them both and
you guys are crying next year, that's not happening. I
don't think. I don't I think we're renting Paul George.
I do I think there's a possibility. Westbrooks days, You're
gonna end up losing Durant hardened Westbrook and Paul George

(50:48):
has ever been a team a franchise has lost more
talent in a short period of time than than the Thunder.
That's a that's a really good point. I really hate
to hate you to mention that, because I still have
to do radio and not cry my eyes up in
the next two hours. James Harden and the richest contract
extension in NBA history, by the way, since you mentioned him,
hundred seventy million over four years under the Designated Player
Veteran extensions. Current deal runs out in nineteen. This deal

(51:11):
will run through twenty two and twenty three. Harden will
be thirty three years old at the end of this,
so he's doing a two hundred and twenty eight million
dollars between now and the end of this new extension.
Can you imagine if he had shown up in the
NBA Finals for the Thunder five years and not gone
gone nine, eight and six and three consecutive games, and

(51:31):
if he had not just completely quit on his basketball
team in a closeout situation against the Spurs this year,
what would have gotten then? Like seven hundred million, like
two hundred and twenty eight million dollars to disappear in
every big playoff moment that your team has ever had.
Like that's it. I saw you tweeted out, Jeff that
you were gonna put your kids on the basketball court yesterday. Yeah,

(51:51):
you're right, Like you need to have him out there
right now shooting layups. It's not even the two million.
It's two hundred twenty million with no state income tax,
which is insane. Um. But if you go back to
when he was in Oklahoma City, if he plays well
in the playoffs and they keep him, durant stays and
changes the entire landscape of the n b A you
have now durant you have Westbrookie have hardened. The Warriors

(52:12):
are probably not as good as they are obviously now
without durant Um maybe the Calves don't get as far
as they get with Lebron. So the whole landscape of
the NBA changed when they got rid of Harden. And
now Houston, I mean, Houston has a chance, I think
in the West at least to be competitive. But I
agree with you. I mean, unless the Warriors have some
sort of injury, the NBA regular season is gonna be
boring again, like the MBA needs to find a way

(52:33):
and I and the thing about it is that I
say as mu as I said, mb and needs to
find a way to make it competitive in the in
the regular season are fun. I like the super team,
so I guess I can't really say that when I
enjoy watching these teams dominate, because I think that's the
best basketball if you have one. If you eliminated basically
this idea that that you can form super teams and
you had one superstar, let's say, on every team, I

(52:53):
think the NBA would be even more boring just one
good player on every team. I think the the style
of the game wouldn't be as as exciting when you
have these great teams play and then you just don't
have the same talent all one court, like watching the
Calves and Warriors play. Yeah, it was only five games,
but it was the best five games of the season.
I don't disagree there at all. When we come back,
I will lay out at least one thought I had

(53:16):
about ways to potentially make the NBA regular season more interesting,
even if it doesn't mean anything for the playoffs. You
have to find ways to get people interested in this league.
When the Warriors aren't playing, when the Calves aren't playing,
there are a couple of other teams that you might
want to to pay attention to. I think it will
be very interesting to see whether or not the Thunder

(53:36):
put Russell westbrook and Paul George on the floor a lot,
or whether or not they stagger and let Paul George
kind of run the second unit and sort of overlap
with Westbrooks so that you don't have that when he's
out four minutes. They lose about eight thousand points every
time he's off the floor. Maybe that makes it easier
and it also relieves some of the pressure on in
his cancer. So we'll talk about that. All of that
coming up. But again, how do you make the NBA

(53:56):
regular season matter? Summer league apparently matters way too much.
We'll talk a lot more about that as well. This
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(54:19):
the coverage here on Fox Sports Radio, Jason Martin, Jeff
Sports with you this week as Clay is out over
the country. We've got Noah Kaslow, serious x M NBA
host coming up after the bottom of the hour. We'll
talk to him about summer league free agency and all
sorts of fun stuff. There. Before the break, we teased
ways to make the NBA regular season interesting again, and

(54:41):
you know, I know that that Clay has mentioned different
ways about starting the year at different times, but I
just wanted to and it just kind of came to
me thinking about red zone. If you found a way
to make NBA fantasy a big deal, you could make
people care about the regular season. They would care about
individual stats. NFL Fantasy really really helped explode the NFL,

(55:05):
and I think that the key here is and I
know they do some whip around coverage on NBA TV,
and they used to do kind of like a Tuesday
night deal in ESPN two where they would move around
to different games. If you could find some way, and
I know there's a bunch of regional networks and I
don't know how this could possibly work, but some way
in which you could have a red zone on NBA
TV at least three or four nights a week where

(55:26):
they would just go through every single game. Some deal
with the league or whatever would make this possible to
go through and show things for hours at a time.
You might be able to pull this off. Now, the
problem is a lot of it's happened during the week
and people are watching their favorite shows, and whether it's
Game of Thrones, which is back this weekend, or whatever
it might be. There's a lot more competition than there
is on Sunday afternoons for the NFL. But you have

(55:49):
to find a way and you have to think outside
the box. Because the Golden State Warriors are going to
win the championship next year. Jeff dropped a real bomb
show in that last segment when he said that the
Warriors have gotten better since they've got Kevin of Rent. Like,
I'm still trying to process the depth of that statement,
but just like, seriously, like, if you could find a
way to make people care about NBA fantasy, don't you
think that would help at least a little bit? It

(56:11):
would help a little bit. But you know you're you're
a thunder fan, right, so if you're if if a
thunder on at seven thirty local time, are you gonna
watch a thunder play, Are you gonna watch the Red
Zone NBA channel? I mean, I think that you have
to to to set up to where you have at
least two TVs and then you know, with the Red
Zone channel in the NFL, you can watch on your iPad.

(56:32):
It goes to your fantasy um and you know what
times the games are. They're on the same time every
single Sunday, so blends well. I think if you do
it an NBA type Red Zone channel, you know, not
every team plays every night. Uh, they play at such
different hours. Uh, the play so late at night. I
mean that's part of it too, right, if you're on
the East Coast, you can't watch a West Coast game
and they start at ten thirty at night. That's why

(56:52):
don't watch The Lakers are very often it is because
they're on so late at night. I mean, if they
were better, maybe I'd stay awake. But even then, I mean,
you know the National TV games they play, or you
know they play a Christmas game normally, Uh, maybe they
play a game on the first. Otherwise most of their
games are at ten thirty nine. And if you're on
the East Coast, you're not gonna stay up to watch
a Red Zone channel style NBA action. I think that

(57:12):
has to you know, I think the NBA popularity um
is an issue at times because of the start times
of their games, even the finals games. The finals games
are nine o'clock Eastern. That's ridiculous to me. Yeah, that's
that's that's really valid, especially about those West Coast teams,
Like how many people are watching Blazers games on the
East Coast in the Central time zone and things like that,
especially some of us that have to be up early

(57:33):
in the morning to do radio shows. But there has
to be away because now that you've moved Paul George,
who is left to watch in the East, Like other
than Cleveland? Yeah, yeah, Boston is gonna be interesting to watch,
But Janice, is that pretty much it? Guys? Like, am
I missing somebody else in the East that's like just
total musty TV? I guess outside of Boston and Cleveland, Like,

(57:55):
who is it that excites you in the East. The
Bucks are a young team that might be on to
watch a little bit, but they're not gonna be any
better than the Raptors were as a watch. And the
Raptors have kind of proven to be sort of fool's
gold once you get into games that actually matter, because
Lowry has been so inconsistent and Derosan can even be
somewhat inconsistent as well. Like Eastern Conference basketball this coming year,

(58:17):
Like has it ever been as weak as it's about
to be unless some of these rookies explode quickly? Or
am I forgetting somebody huge the Sixers? I think I'll
be exciting to watch. It might win a lot of games,
and they can all stay healthy, all four of their
young guys, they will be really fun to watch. So
they won't be fun to watch because that's not gonna happen.
Like what what about their history that can happen already hurt?

(58:42):
I know I had an age injury. Um I can't.
I laughed when when I saw that. Um. Look, I
think it's maybe optimistic for me to think that they
can all stay healthy and it would be great basketball
if they could all stay healthy. They have a good
chance of of doing something special. I mean, they have
a lot of young talent. Now, it's hard to win
the NBA long term. Uh, when you have such a
young core, you need to veterans and you need guys

(59:03):
over twenty seven to win. But if you're looking for
another team in the East that's gonna be exciting to watch.
If they all can stay healthy, then the Sixers are
one of those teams to watch. I mean, I agree
with that because I'm a hoop set, But what are
you watching for? Man? Maybe they'll be the eight seed.
Like that's that's the thing. People who watch the Lakers
this year because Alonzo ball and they might be in
eight seed. I think that you're gonna I think that

(59:23):
you watch them because they have young talent. Uh, they're
gonna be flashy, they're gonna be athletic. I mean, you
know the NBA's athletically. You want to watch guys who
can jump and run and move and cut and block
and score and dunk. I mean, that's why you'd watch
the Sixers. So here's a here's a real hot take
that might just get me muted for the rest of
the show. Lakers are not gonna make the playoffs this year. Well,

(59:46):
it's not gonna happen. It doesn't matter if the make
the playoffs this year. Their only goal this year is
to sign free agents. Next offsees all of them. We
want all the free agents all coming to Los Angeles.
We'll find ways we'll go away over the luxury tax.
Everyone's coming to l A. Yeah, I don't think you
can do that. I think that's the reason that exists,
so that you actually can't do that, Like, you can't

(01:00:09):
the Warriors in three years or four years is gonna
be two million dollars over and pay a luxury tax.
Find how do the Warriors gotten better this offseason? Like
they bring back their entire core and then they bring
a home Rey Caspy, who's kind of a sneaky good distance.
Youre another dude that likes to pull up from thirty
five in the league. They end up actually finding guys

(01:00:29):
that are gonna make them better. Like, I don't know
that much about Nick Young. I haven't watched a ton
of Swaggy Pea games. You guys can tell me this
a lot better. Nick Young seems to be somebody that
can play for them to write like he's somebody with
energy that should make them even a little bit better
than they were last year. Am I wrong? Well? I
wouldn't say energy is the word when it comes to
Nick Young, but he can eat it open jump shot,

(01:00:50):
that's for sure. Kevin Durant. By the way, Kevin Durance
troll tweet when a great that it was not slanging
that would but it was it was on the list.
All they need him to do is shoot threes when
he gets in the game. He's not gonna start. He's
gonna be a role player. I'll tell you what. The
Warriors too, They got sneaky good draft. They got Jordan
Bell from Organs and he can be like a new

(01:01:12):
Draymond Green. They can eventually, i think, get him to
where Draymond Green is as far as defense, and you
just putting a couple. You know, Draymond Green only averages
nine points a game, so it's not like he's a
big offensive you know, contribute, but they can they can
turn him fake tough guy. You're right, they can turn
him into, um, a guy who's like Draymond Green. Eventually
if Draymond if fizzles out with Draymond, they have a
guy like that to come in and to be able

(01:01:33):
to steal Jordan Bell in that spot. Um. Just go
to show you that they know what they're doing, because
that's that's a huge get for them to you know,
be able to draft on the second round. And yeah,
grab a guy like Jordan Bell. Alright. On the other side,
we will ask somebody that knows a little bit more
about this than we do. He's serious XM NBA host
know what Coslaw willalk to him about Summer League, the Lakers,
the Warriors, all of this stuff. Stick around, But first

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Good morning, Thanks for joining us doing well. So what

(01:02:38):
do you really learn from NBA Summer League. It seems
like from one day to the next, Lonzo Ball goes
from he might be a bust so he could be
the league m v P because of two different kinds
of performances. How overvalued are these performances in summer League? Well,
you can learn that the Nicks made a mistake. I
guess you can learn that any day of the week. Really,

(01:02:59):
um No, I'm not to say I'm not gonna go
that far. But then a Smith junior looks really good.
Um but the concerns over dennism and Junior weren't Kenny play.
It was how he can survivate the two games as
I mature enough to be in the league. So we're
not gonna learn that at summer league, although spend in
a week in Vegas and performing well, I guess I
guess you do learn something about maturity. But for Alonzo Ball,

(01:03:21):
you can't look at or should you listen to folks
who say bust after one game after going to fifteen
one for eleven three and then coming out the next
night and kind of hitting his first three and going eleven,
eleven and eleven, because I think he's gonna have more
games that are eleven, eleven and eleven, for whatever that's worth,
then he's going to have of the two for fifteen.

(01:03:44):
Talk to t to Brendan Haywood yesterday and and you know,
Brendon's going a long time in the league. He's out
in Vegas watching him, and I kind of disagreed with
what he said when he said that he's concerned about
Alonzo when he comes off screens not having that giant
first to the basket. That that's not something that you
can just learned like that. You either have it or
you don't. Certain guys in the league do you have that.
So I'm not going to go so a part to

(01:04:05):
say that I'm not concerned about that part of his game.
But no, when you when you watch the summer League game,
there are mechanical things you can look for, but I'm
not too concerned about final numbers. So A Lonzo played
against Jayson Tatum this weekend and Tatum was was a
picked it that I liked a lot for Boston and

(01:04:26):
I'm watching a guy what value in today's n B
A is a guy that has that kind of shot
ability with hands in his face. I mean, this guy
had fall aways. The difficulty is incredible. Yeah, degree gift
difficulty is really impressive. Um, someone at his size who
can create his own shot. The only the only thing

(01:04:48):
I'd worry about early on is being able to move
the ball, um, because he's he's so good in isolation
and that's something that yeah, he was good at that
in college, but the college game, the spacing just isn't
there because they're on't as many guys that can shoot.
And even though the NBA his lacking shooters, as faith
as that sounds, um, but you just have more space

(01:05:09):
to operate. Soon. Jason Tatum's got a a nearly complete
offensive game shooting the basketball and and creating shots, and
there aren't there are on a lot of guys really
at any age they can create, like he can. Just
worry a little bit about him moving the ball. But
I think he's going to be fine, and his and
his footwork is outstanding. Sticking with the Celtics, they got

(01:05:33):
Gordon Hayward who averages tree points, but they had to
let go of Bradley and Olinic to make up, you know,
for the salary difference, and those guys average twenty points.
It's the lateral move for them concerning they basically just
switched out players and just paid more for Hayward, Who's
really not gonna go from twenty two points a game
to twenty nine points a game. Yeah. I think it's
a good point justin and not as many as I

(01:05:54):
would think are talking about what the difference is losing
Avery Bradley for this year because they might not have
been able to pay him next year most like, but
most likely not going into the final year because he
was able to. He's the one who guarded all the
other opposing point guards. So now now you're gonna put
that on Marcus Smart, which I think is a much

(01:06:15):
more difficult assignment for him guarding opposed Park to Smart
guarding Kyrie and Marcus Smart guarding Steph Curry and John
Wall and the list goes on for everywhere. It's really
good point guards in the NBA. UM So I think
it's gonna be a different sort of identity for the
Celtics that is going to take some time to figure out. UM.

(01:06:36):
But if that's the trade off for another playmaker can
Gordon Hayward, I'm okay with it, Especially in the Eastern
Conference when you're only chasing one team. Danny Age just
John some heat for not using all the assets. He
has to get a Jimmy Butler or get really a
huge difference maker. Is he just waiting till basically Lebron
leaves the calves to use all these assets to build

(01:06:57):
up betweam that you've eventually won the Eastern Conference. Yeah,
I mean, I think he's doing what I think he's
doing something smart right now where he is making sure
that this team is still competitive and kenyasing. But he's
also put in a team in a position where anything
less than losing to Lebron and the Eastern Conference finals

(01:07:19):
would be a failure of the season. So that's the
that's the risk you run. But I don't think it's
that much of a risk given the rest of the
teams in the Eastern Conference. And look, they're not going
to be using all these picks, just a matter of
what they use them for. And then and you can
certainly understand getting antsy um when there are other guys
out there, But look, that's that Paul George thing. They

(01:07:39):
wanted to pull the trigger on the Paul George And
there are still a lot of questions that have not
been answered, and Kevin Pritchard's gonna have to answer at
some point of when was that Celtic the final Celtics
deal on the table and did you just not want
to send Paul George somewhere else in the Eastern Conference?
Because they because I do believe at Celtics were ready

(01:08:02):
to do that with Paul George and have Gordon Hayward.
They know that's what would have been a big difference
maker this year. Um. But then look a lot of
other things are going to open up, and I think
I think that Pelican situation is worth watching with the
Marcus Cousins and Anthony Davis in a few years, Serious
Sex m NBA hosts Noah Kaslow joining us here on

(01:08:22):
OutKick the coverage. Noah, how if there is a way
does the NBA fix it's narrative of Golden State is
already the young crowned champion next year? The problem is,
how do you get people interested in a regular season
that seemingly doesn't matter, especially if you look historically over
the last few years where it really hasn't mattered all

(01:08:43):
that much. How did they fix this? I know everybody's
gonna watch Warriors games they're gonna watch Calves games. They
might watch a few other teams, maybe the Thunder for example,
or Houston. But how do they fix the problem of
so many teams where there's no real market value to
them outside of their kind of small regional area of
where they matter. I think it's I think it is

(01:09:07):
an issue, but I don't think it's something that's really
that new. UM. I mean, thirty years ago was a
uh you know in the post Barkley Sixers where the Sixers,
you know that, and that's the big market. The Sixers
weren't big nationally. UM. I think I think the league

(01:09:31):
is dealt with certain things like this before. UM. But
I do think that the games themselves out West will
be more competitive that this deal with the Eastern Conference
is certainly an issue, but I don't think there's anything
you can do about it. In the Eastern Conference for

(01:09:51):
a long time now just hasn't been that good, hasn't
been that deep than the Western Conference. For the past
about twelve years now, they've had four or more teams
every single year. The last time the Eastern Conference had
one season with four teams at fifty wins about five
years ago. So this has been this has been going on,

(01:10:12):
This has been going on for a long time. And
but but in in there's just not the unpredictability of
because of the seven game playoffs series that you know
that certain teams are going to be in the finals,
like in the NFL. I mean, you guys know all
about it, that it's a one game scenario in the playoffs.
Anything can happen. I mean, usually the better team wins,

(01:10:35):
but anything can happen. Hockey is so determined based on
a goaltender. Basketball. Just dal Moorey brought it up with
with Simmons the other day that maybe you go to
maybe you go to one game in the first round
and see what happens and then and then go and
then go from there. Um, but I think that in

(01:10:56):
the Western Conference playoffs this year you're gonna have many
any more competitive series. So the playoffs themselves still stunk
this year, And maybe that's why I was so excited
to watch Jason Statum and lines of ball, because I
just I felt deprived from watching any semblance of fun
basketball for the past two months now. Um, but the

(01:11:20):
Western Conference pest will be more competitive this year, and
and the fact that there are you know Westbrook has
another star next to him. You can put Oklahoma City
on television even more. Um, So it's it's it's a
wrong answer, but it's just an extremely complicated issue that
I don't think there is a quick fist. So you

(01:11:42):
mentioned the NFL, and we got about a minute left,
but it would be remiss of us not to mention
this huge breaking NFL story that came this morning. I
don't know if you've seen this yet, but Advertising Age
has reported that the makers of both Viagra and c
Ellis have declined to buy any advertisements on NFL games
for the next season. Your initial thoughts on this huge
and of events where no erectile dysfunction commercials will be

(01:12:02):
in NFL games this fall. Yeah, I saw the headline,
but what was the reason? Apparently because they're gonna they're
going generic and they no longer need to advertise like
a company name anymore. So I guess now you can
just roll into grocery stores and pick these things up.
So I guess that changes it out. But how exactly
are we getting through NFL seasons without seeing some dude

(01:12:23):
throw a football through a tire? Yeah? I mean and
then and then, so the footballs at tire and then
put his speed up afterwards and and look just and
look just as exhausted. Um. Yeah, that's uh really really
thought about how I'm gonna make it through. I guess
more people are concerned about how they're gonna make it
through a night with without those drugs and to make

(01:12:46):
it through a football game. But I guess it. I
guess at some point your advertising is run its course,
that you've done enough, because I always wonder about that,
like how much do they get out of that? So
I guess you know, advertising's run its course, and you
become the you become the name in the market, and
you don't have to spend all that money anymore. He's
Noah cause Love. You can follow him on Twitter at

(01:13:08):
Noah c O s l O V Cause Law. He
is an NBA host for Sirius x M. Appreciate you
getting up early this morning for us, great job. Hopefully
we'll catch up with you again soon. Yeah. Wait, now
I'm really concerned about where they're gonna put those kills
in the supermarket. Yeah, well, you never know. Maybe the
I don't know where where do you put him a
soda ill? I don't know that is that is dangerous place? Thanks? Thanks, No,

(01:13:31):
that's a really good question. We may have to address that.
Where are you going to put erectile dysfunction drugs in
the supermarket? Maybe we'll address that next. But I'll tell
you what we will definitely address next Animal thunder Dome,
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of fact, it started last night. I was gonna put

(01:14:15):
up a review without kick dot com and just ran
out of time. Maybe just still do Defiant Ones. Yeah,
it's very very good, all of it. Like it's their
stories in there. I had no idea, Like I didn't
know the Bruce Springsteen stuff as deeply. I certainly didn't
know the Tom Petty Patty Smith story in detail, but
just the idea of n w A, the story of
f the police and and all of those kinds of things.

(01:14:35):
There's there's a lot of fascinating stuff, and all from
the sources, obviously, because Dre and Ivene are both so
arriving or so very kind of into all of it.
But you said you saw it, Danny, you saw the
TUPAC film. Yeah, I did. I actually went and watched
at the weekend it debuted. What do you think I
liked it? I mean, I can understand why some people

(01:14:56):
are very critical of it, and there's some holes in
some of the part of the movie because they obviously
over dramatic, you know, it was over dramatic and certain parts,
and there there are certain people that are alive that
disagreed with some of the storylines, you know, like Jada
Pinkett Smith. You probably read about that. But overall, it

(01:15:17):
was a good representation of him and his music, his
personal relationships. You know, well we'll never know because he's
obviously not here too, you know, you know, to talk, yeah,
to tell what his side of things. So I think
what it was compared to was the n W A
movie and Straight out of Compton. Yeah, that's what I

(01:15:37):
was gonna say. Straight out of Compton was done so
well that it's just a level higher. Yeah, does a
movie go into who killed him? Finally? Is there any
Is there any premise or any idea of how that ended? No?
Not at all. I mean that that would wouldn't that
be the most interesting part of the movie though, of

(01:15:57):
course that's it's such as such a mystery. We have
no idea still, which is crazy. I guess you don't
want to speculate and put somebody in there as Sugar
Knight or whatever else that some people might have thought
it was. Maybe that'll come up when they do the
show that they're going to do on the USA Network.
So yes, Tupac not alive to kind of speak to that,
a teenage boy barely alive as a result of a bear.

(01:16:20):
It's time for animal Thunderdome, Ladies and gentlemen. I'm just
glad I was scared, boys and goods. I thought he
thought I was like this enormous piece of chicken diarm
times is animal thunder Dog Thunderdome stories. A teenage Stafford

(01:16:50):
a Colorado ranch described waking up yesterday morning to find
a black bear. Black bear wasn't doing much, it was
just knowing on his head and trying to drag him
away the night teen year old identified only as Dylan. Yeah,
I wouldn't put my last name there either, Fox thirty one, Denver.
He tells them he woke up to a crunching sound
and me being drug out of a sleeping bag at

(01:17:11):
Glacier View Ranch near the town of Ward, which is
about fifty miles north of Denver. Quote. I thought it
was a dream at first, then I realized it wasn't,
said Dylan, who quickly realized the crunching sound was the
bear's teeth biting into his skull. Thoughts, I've I've had
bronze bones broken before, so I know that sounds. But

(01:17:34):
the best party is Dylan teaches a wilderness survival at
the camp, which I think now he's no longer allowed
to teach willerness survival at the camp. How can you
get eaten by a bear when your job is to
make sure that everyone else does not get eaten by bears?
Bears are no joke, and it's not just the revenant.
Maybe they're upset about their depiction and The Revenant because
a woman and her dogs two dogs attacked on Tuesday

(01:17:55):
after they surprised the bear and her cub in a
huckleberry patch in Idaho. Last month, black bears killed two
people in Alaska in separate attacks. There was a sixteen
year old that was killed in Anchorage and then a
mind contract worker that was also killed in Anchorage. Bears
are no joke, Like, if you see a bear, probably move,
like make sure there's glass between you and that bear.

(01:18:17):
Like they're they're just rolling in people's backyards and now
they're gawing on people's heads. Not a very very positive situation.
The hashtag is animal Thunderdome. We might have more of
it before the end of the show. But LaVar ball
versus Joe LMBID that is next. This is out kicked
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Lazo ball had a bad Friday and a good Saturday,
and we went from man, this guy picked way too
high in the draft. If you watch Twitter, which we
probably shouldn't watch Twitter, to the next day being the opposite.

(01:19:20):
I am Jason martin In with former NFL alignment Jeff Schwartz.
He's down in Charlotte. Jeff. I'm gonna give you a
chance here. I know you're not a huge fan of
Summer League basketball, neither of mine. I think it's kind
of useless, but you're such a Lakers honk, like you're
gonna find a way to just sort of overlook Friday,
right and just look at Saturday when he had the
triple double. Of course, some really doesn't matter unless your

(01:19:43):
favorite player does something really well, and then it matters
more than anything in the world. Um, Look, his job
is to dish the ball out. I don't think he's
he was brought into l A to score, and he
was brought into basically brings showtime back right, be flashy,
get your other players involved, throw lobs, uh, dish out um.

(01:20:05):
Just to rock out two guys who can shoot the ball,
and be attractive to free agents who want to come
play in Los Angeles, like Lebron, like Paul George, like Westbrook.
Eventually what Anthony Davis maybe three years from now? Uh
and moving forward. So that's his job. So what he
did the first night, I think it was just him
trying to show off. Second pick overall, I'm gonna chuck
up a bunch of threes. He went to for fifteen
shooting poor effort. The next day, comes back, does what

(01:20:27):
he's supposed to do, scores only eleven points, but gets
eleven rebounds and gets eleven assist and that that eleven
and eleven on the back end. Really the eleven assist
is your if your Lakers fans, what do you want
to see from him? And then you know it's just
if his dad just didn't talk so much. I think
people would enjoy watching a Lonzo play much more than
they do how much, I don't know how how many

(01:20:48):
people have talked about this, and I think maybe more
people should We've talked about Lonzo Ball in terms of
what his dad means to him, in terms of who
is rooting for his excess, who is rooting for his failure,
things of that nature. But how much pressure has LaVar
Balls marketing strategy and Alonzo in our face all the time?

(01:21:11):
How much pressure has that put on this young kid?
Remember he's still a young kid, despite the fact that
he's a new millionaire. How much pressure is now on
Alonzo Ball on the floor because if he's bad out
of the gate, Like, how long is it gonna take
to shake his confidence? I'm sure LaVar will build him up.
LaVar said after his bad performance Friday, That's the worst

(01:21:32):
game I've ever seen him play. And he still had
his team in position, he was still making plays down
the stretch. But can you imagine the level of pressure
on Alonzo Ball the basketball player because of LaVar Ball. Well,
we can look at it two ways. One you can
look at it as though all LaVar's talking puts more
pressure on Alonzo to perform to back up LaVar says.

(01:21:54):
Or you can look at it like Alonzo's almost isolated
from the media because of Vardens all the talking. So
a Lonzo can really just go about his day. He
can play basketball, he can be with his teammates, and
everyone will focus on what his dad is saying and
what his dad is doing, and not focus on the
two for fifteen shooting. Because I think if you looked
at it on Twitter, you know, more people are talking
about LaVar Ball than Alonzo Ball. Now. The problem is

(01:22:16):
when he has a good game, more people will talk
about LaVar than Alonzo Um. But I think where it's
really gonna hurt him is his perception with his peers.
You know, if the Lakers have a bad game and
it's not Alonzo's fault and LaVar Ball goes the media
or TAMZ finds him walking the streets and interviews him
and he says something disparaging derogatory toward one of his teammates,

(01:22:38):
that's where you're gonna get the problem because I guarantee
it's gonna be brought up in the locker room, like,
you know, why can't your dad shut up? Why is
he talking about me? Um? You know want you talk
to me? Why do you do something about it? Um?
And that's what the issues are gonna are gonna be.
I don't think it's as much pressure on Alonso himself,
but I think he's gonna have pressure from the rest
of the locker room if his dad can't stop talking
about his teammates. I think it's an interesting way to
look at it. You compare LaVar Ball to somebody Rex Ryan,

(01:23:01):
who used to take a lot of the heat off
his players because he would be the one making news.
That's an interesting way to look at it. Just that
that Alonso is able to really just kind of go
out and play basketball because his dad is so out
there everywhere that if LaVar is the story, then Alonzo
can kind of focus in and sort of really get
tunnel vision on the game of basketball. And Lavre well,

(01:23:23):
he talked a lot this week, and Joel Emb didn't
say many words we can't He said three words we
can only play. Actually I think he said four. Well
one more time. Uh, LaVar Ball, Well, he was asked
about it by TMZ. Here's what LaVar Baull had to

(01:23:43):
say about Joe l Emb. Good morning to the big ballers. Yeah, sir,
are we doing it? Good morning? You know how we're
going find his wine? Two times for your mind? How
we geting Meow? Morning man? You guys ready for the
summer league. Summer about to get out, Man, We're about
to set it off for Goodlonso's gonna be m VP
of the Summer League. Or what would you think? Anything? Anything?
Or I love you decked out in the in the zos.

(01:24:07):
Look at those the zoo. Yeah that super fresh, super fresh.
He's gotta be like that. And now I gotta ask you, man,
you know your your your your reaction to Joel and
being sat f LaVar ball. Hey, the reason he said
that he got three words because it's vocabulary is limited.
That's why you gotta use customers where you don't have
no intellect. Okay, you don't think he's the most intelligent manness, No,

(01:24:28):
he's not intelligent at all. He's worried about me. He
should be worried about playing right now? Now, what what's
gonna happen? I got three word for him? I can't
play at all. Shoot, that's fall right now. Now, what's
gonna happen? When you guys played the seventies six years
you guess what? He won't even be on the court. Problem.
Oh really? You are you predicting another injury? The injury
or something much? Another injury? Plague? Season always always played.

(01:24:50):
It's gonna be heated. Are you gonna be in attendance?
But I'm not gonna worry about him. He's small change
so much to unpack your Joel, But I'm gonna start
here again. Quote you've got to use cuss words when
you don't have no intellect. Unquote. Probably best not to

(01:25:10):
go the double negative route when you're speaking on somebody
else's intellect. LaVar Ball one of a kind, But that
has to be one of the great quotes in recent memory.
Do you think LaVar balls a mirror in the morning,
right night before he goes to bed and practices those uh,
those lines is find what find his wine? Double time whatever?

(01:25:30):
That thing what don't make any sense? Do you you think
he sits there and practices those those lines that can
throw out the teams he sports to sound um fresh
and young. He might, honestly, I mean, one of the
reasons why it made sense for him to do w
w E RAW is because he doesn't really talk. He
cuts promos. He sounds like a pro wrestler when he talks,
and a lot of what pro wrestlers do is spout

(01:25:53):
out catchphrases, and so LaVar is trying to spout out
various catchphrases. We've seen him when he had it really
been able to go onto those catchphrases, and it's resulted
in things like what we saw on the Herd with
Christine Leehy. That was not a good moment for LaVar Ball.
He knows what he's gonna be asked. He knew he's
gonna be asked about this Joe l Embiid thing. Now,

(01:26:13):
if that's the case, Uh, maybe we need to put
a focus group together before we say things like you've
got to use cuss words when you don't have no intellect.
He's not intelligent at all. But he did take shots
at him beat and say he's probably not even gonna
be on the floor because of quote an injury is
something like he's coming strong after Joe l Embiid because
I guess that's what LaVar Ball does. And of course
right off the top, he's asked, are you guys gonna

(01:26:36):
dominate Summer League? And he's like, yeah, we about to
turn summer league out, Like yeah, you're not gonna do
anything like you're gonna sit in the seats in your
triple B shirt while your son is out there. I
don't know, well, on Friday not doing particularly well and
then on Saturday having a triple double. Did you see
the tweet from Elenta Della Donna who said it would
be great if Zoe blew out his shoes and his

(01:26:56):
first summer league games. Yeah, that is coming strong. That
that's that's like earth, that's early hate for a summer
league game. You gotta save that energy for the regular season.
I feel like when we were talking about the pressure
being put on a Lonzo off the top of this segment,
how many people do you think, especially other people that
are rookies in the NBA second year players in the NBA,

(01:27:19):
resent Alonzo Ball without knowing anything about him because he
seems like he's a really good kid. From everything that
I've seen, he seems like he plays ball. And I
don't think LaVar Ball is a jerk either. I think
LaVar Ball is marketed and figured out exactly how that
he can maximize this moment. But for Alonzo, how many
of his peers do you think absolutely resent how popular

(01:27:41):
he's become despite the fact this team didn't even make
the Final four. I don't think they resent him. I
think they they just like his dad and the way
his dad talks. I mean you saw and beat. I
mean he didn't really attack Alonzo. He attacked LaVar. And
I do agree with you by the way that you
can you can dislike LaVar balls basically check, but you
can also understand that he's a good father and his

(01:28:03):
kids are are well mannered kids. I think that's two
separate issues. And we I think we confuse sometimes that
we might not like one thing, but that means we
don't like everything. That's not true. So I agree with
you that that he seems like a great dad and
his kids seem well adjusted and they seem like good kids.
But we can also not like his stick. And I
think that with and the other NBA players, I don't
think the day they dislike a Lonzo, I mean I

(01:28:24):
think they dislike his dad um, and just all the
talking is. And that's to my point about his teammates,
is that if LaVar goes out and says um disparaging
comments about his teammates when they don't play well, that's
gonna be a problem in the locker room. I guarantee that.
And I do wonder though Magic Johnson had a chat
with him at some point before he was drafted maybe
afterwards saying like a LaVar, we're not doing this. So

(01:28:47):
you can talk about and beat or you can do
whatever you want, but don't mention any other Lakers, and
don't bring any undue attention or pressure towards your son
as far as the Lakers go, because you know him
talking about NBAT that doesn't matter really in the Lakers
locker room. Maybe guys uh in the Lakers locker room
like that, but just don't bring it, uh, just don't
bring it home in our locker room. L A crew,

(01:29:08):
what do you think about resentment of Alonzo Ball? And
I think Jeff just made some some very very adept
points there, But in terms of resentment of his peers
may be compared to just resentment. It comes from just
a little bit of quiet envy at the level of
coverage that this kid has gotten before he's ever played
an actual NBA game. Do you think that there is
legitimacy to that at all? Now? I think initially there's

(01:29:29):
gonna be a lot of noise, but it's not gonna
amount too much because if you think about it, what
trouble did LaVar cause that you see l A nothing
like he didn't he didn't get into anything with the coaches.
He stayed out of the way. Now, when a Lonzo
was in high school, that was a whole another story.
You probably read about all the nonsense that happened with

(01:29:52):
the most recent coach, you know, at his the youngest
son's high school and all that. But once his boys
go to college and now in the pros, he can
talk all he wants. And he's even admitted recently that
it's marketing. And that's why Magic Johnson felt comfortable that
second time he went to LaVar's house in Sheo and
sat down with him, and he told Magic straight up.

(01:30:14):
Magic said, he looked him in the eyes and he said, look,
it's marketing, and he's he's in your hands now or
and he's in your hands. So even Magic felt comfortable.
So this is much to do about nothing. Whether or
not you're a Lakers fan, here's a question for you.
Are you rooting for a Lonzo ball are you watching

(01:30:36):
with interest and hoping that he succeeds eight seven seven
nine nine six six three six nine. If you have
an answer to that question, I want to hear from
Lakers fans. I'd also like to hear from just NBA
fans and sports fans in general. How much of what
LaVar Ball has done has made you either an extreme
Alonzo fan or somebody that's hoping that he can sort

(01:30:56):
of overcome or back up what his father has said
about him. And how many view are or hoping for
the opposite, because I think that there's probably quite a
bit on both sides. But Alonso has really done nothing
that should make him unlikable, and I think the foot
Locker ad did him a lot of good, and foot
Locker has been pretty solid over the past few years.
They also had the D'Angelo Russell throwing the phone ad

(01:31:18):
out uh last year. I think it was as a
result of the Nick Young situation, so they've been kind
of on point. But a Lonzo doing that ad, it
really helped, and then having some of the other rookies
there as well sort of also put some shine on
other folks in addition to Alonzo, So I think that
it I think that it worked out most likely. But
LaVar has been talking a lot, and they also have

(01:31:39):
a reality show coming up, and he was asked about
the Kardashians. When we come back, We'll let you hear
what he had to say. About that, and we'll take
your calls if you want it again. At eight seven seven,
six nine, Alonzo Ball A bad Friday, a much better Saturday.
Thank goodness for the NBA Summer League. There's at least
something to talk about. This is how kicked the coverage
with j Martin. Jeff here on Fox Sport Radio. Welcome

(01:32:01):
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ago asked before the break whether or not you're rooting
for Alonzo Ball or not, and whether or not LaVar
has had a positive or negative impact on your feelings

(01:32:21):
on Alonzo. Looks like so far most people according to
the poll that Jeff Schwartz, who is in alongside me,
I'm Jason Martin in for Clay Travis this week because
he is in Paris with his family. So like most people,
I think around fifty so far in the pole or
in favor of Alonzo, that they are rooting for Alonzo.
And I did see some comments where there was don't care,
and then there was, I'm not really focused on Alonzo.

(01:32:44):
I'll be okay if he succeeds things like that, So
I guess it's sort of running the gamut. But it
doesn't like I've never really gotten the feeling that LaVar.
LaVar has certainly not made me dislike Alonzo Ball. There's
just a lot of Alonzo Ball out there. But I
still think a Lonzo Ball seems to be a pretty
nice young man. And I don't think I'm alone there.
Most people seem to agree, right, Jeff, you you like Alonzo.

(01:33:04):
I know you like the Lakers. But even if he
hadn't been drafted by the Lakers, it's not like Alonzos
some jerk. No, you're right about that. And and my
parents are U C. I lum so I pay attention
to used to basketball. I watched him play all year. Um,
you know he was a consummate, teammate, never had any problems.
You ever heard Steve Alford go off on him? Um,
you know his dad kind of stayed away from U C.
L A. You hear the stories of him at Chino

(01:33:26):
High School and yelling at the coach and trying and
change the defense from the stands and things like that
he didn't none of that when Lonzo was playing in
U C. L A. So there's no reason to dislike Alonzo.
And I think Lonzo, I mean, Lonzo seems like a
quiet kid, doesn't talk very much. I think doing that
foot locker Ad and you talked about that, um, its
a great move for him. It showed a little bit
of personality and showed he that he understands at least

(01:33:47):
um the crowd that his dad uh and makes and
and and follows and gets people to to talk about them.
So it was it was fun for him to do that.
And I think that shows personality. And don't know why
you would root for the kid unless you're not a
Lakers fan. Yeah, I agree. I mean he just seems
to be a pretty decent, decent young man, like he's

(01:34:10):
it's all right now reality show coming up for the
big ball of brand because of course, like how how
in the world could LaVar Ball breathe if this were
not a thing? He already of course went off on
Joel Embiid and used to double negative when describing Joel
Embiad's intellect, which is so LaVar Ball it's absolutely ridiculous.
But he was also asked in a separate conversation about

(01:34:33):
his family in comparison to the Kardashians, and well, he's
not a real big fan of that comparison. Here's what
he said, what do you think when people compare to
the Kardashians and Chris Jenner? Do you like I ain't
know Kardashian, I ain't no, Kris Jenner. We're the ball.
Welcome to the ball here are you cool with? Do
you like Kardashians? Are you Kardashians? Kardashians? So you guys

(01:34:55):
are said separate, separate, You don't you don't want to
kind of follow the ball, following nobody, not in what
you're getting reality TV. So it's not you're not kind
of following I ain't following nobody. They following me. Little
disingenuous to say that he that they're just ball players,
because they are definitely reality stares like, I mean, come on,

(01:35:16):
LaVar Balls saying with LaVar Ball is saying, but I've
never liked LaVar Ball more than when he took digs
and just said he doesn't care about the Kardashians, because
if there was ever a family that was famous just
for being famous, unless you want to include like the
Paris Hiltons of the world the Kardashians are in. There
is at least something about the Balls that makes them
compelling past the fact that they're either attractive or train wrecks. Right, Like,

(01:35:38):
I kind of agree with LaVar Ball in this case, Jason,
will you get an advanced copy of their reality TV
show and will you ready to review that? It's very
possible and if I do, I'll have to. And I
hate reality TV, I said on my new podcast, I'll
kick the culture you got. Iube subscribe to that by
the way, Um that yes, like I don't. I don't
like reality TV at all. When I to pro wrestling,

(01:36:00):
we had bookers and their talent coordinators in our locker
rooms a lot trying to recruit wrestlers because wrestlers are
con men and so A reality stars and so A
reality shows. So it's no surprise that some of my
colleagues were on The Amazing Race and we're on Survivor,
and we're on the Real World and all these kind
of shows, because their job is to convincingly lie to
people and make something a pure real when it's not.

(01:36:21):
At least that's the way the skill used to be
before all the tricks were certainly taken away. So I'm
not a fan of reality TV because I've seen kind
of how the sausage is made there. But yes, like
if the if the LaVar situation ends up in my mailbox,
and it probably will, I don't think that I could
avoid reviewing it. Are you gonna watch? Absolutely not. But

(01:36:44):
you used the show o C, which is a reality
show reality it was a drama. It was a I'm
thinking about I'm thinking about the Hills because then the
Hills spun off into something else and then the hills. Okay, So,
but your knowledge of of sun California is based off
a TV show, So I don't know how you can
say that you you dislike reality TV so much. All

(01:37:07):
I'm saying is Chino looked like a rough joint based
on the OC. Like I've I've been to the West
Coast a couple of times. I've been to Los Angeles
a couple of times, but I certainly have not really
I don't know a ton about that area of the country.
So I base basically everything that I know about the
state of California, especially that part of California, on the

(01:37:27):
o C. And I think that that's probably accurate to
exactly what happens out there at the o C and
O J. Those are the two things I can base
it on. So do you base your knowledge of the
Bay Area on full House? It's a good question. I
mean there's certainly some things there. I mean, Danny Tanner
was a Giants fan, like there's there's there's something to

(01:37:48):
be said for that. But Joey Gladstone was a Detroit
Red Wings fans. I'm not basing it completely on that.
But no, I don't know. The o C was four
seasons and I didn't even know Chino was a thing
until I watched the o C, So I think it's different.
It's how embarrassing is it that that is my knowledge
of the West Coast one too. I've never eaten a steak,
I mean my knowledge up wait wait, wait wait what

(01:38:10):
you know that right? That was a huge story on
this show. I've never had a steak in my life.
You never had a sneak in your wife? Yeah. I've
had girls, multiple girls over the last several months that
say they want to end that streak and basically make
sure that I eat a steak before the end of
the year. So that's like, this is this needs to
be discussed. Why and I missed this? I'm sorry. Why
have you ever had a stake before? I just never

(01:38:30):
felt the need. Like I've been at steak restaurants and
I'll just order, like, you know, steak fries and a
grilled cheese or something. I haven't been to a steak
restaurant a long time, and then now steak restaurants uly
you go to a steakhouse and order a grilled cheese.
I went to senior prom uh in high school in
ninety seven and went to a place where the plates
were about a hundred and fifty dollars a piece, and

(01:38:51):
I had to make me a grilled cheese because I
knew they would have bread and cheese because nothing else
on that menu was something that I was willing to try.
This is this is very upsetting news. I'm very somber
right now. I can't believe you never had a steak,
never had a steak. But I'm gonna try and fix
that this year. Joey Chess, go get a steak tomorrow

(01:39:12):
today after the show. I'm going with I'm going with
a girl, Like if I'm doing this, then somebody is
going to make this happen for me, I think your
first time though, it needs to be by yourself. Really,
you think I should just go and eat a steak
with like a podcast in my ear or something like that. Yes,
because that's how I usually get a restaurant, just with

(01:39:33):
with a magazine and a podcast and just enjoy your
steak by yourself. I know the guys in l A
had thoughts on this originally, but how damning is it
of me that I have not had a steak at
age thirty eight? Ah? I don't know if you don't
caught that gaze and that was your dramatic breath that
you take every time Clay brings you in. How to
give you a quick shout out there? That is, are

(01:39:54):
you abli? Arguably the most disappointing stories since Our Cake
has been on the air for ten eleven months now.
That's even worse than your streak because I know, guys,
who are you know for various reasons or in that situation,
but there is no good reason for you to not
have tried a steak in your life exactly I mean.

(01:40:17):
But the thing is now, like I'll say, I'll just
steak to to you know, reciprocate your steak dinner. You know,
you don't need someone to also participate in the act
of eating a steak like you would to break the
other street. Do you know how disappointing it's going to
be when I don't like it. That's the thing is,
we have to make sure that you have the right
kind of steak, at the right temperature, at the right place.

(01:40:41):
Like you're Nashville now right, Yes, we'll find We'll find
you a steakhouse. You tell them medium rare, and you
can put you We'll find a place and maybe you
could put some button, some special butter on there, like crab. No,
I only see if it popcorn shrimp. Your your palette

(01:41:03):
in general needs some working on. We've got to wait, wait,
wait time out. So before you get the hot dog
sandwich thing you've so you're so you're you don't eat steak,
do eed hamburgers. Generally you'll eat a fast food hamburger.
They're not Now that I'm on the diet, I'm not
really messing with that too much. So And your choice
of seafood is popcorn shrimp, which is kind of not seafood.

(01:41:26):
I know, fish sticks exchange, but I've kind of gotten
out of that too. It's just breading young, breading um wow,
over this next, over this week, we're gonna get you.
We're gonna get your palette. Right. Would be tough over radio,
but we'll make it happen. My palette is right there
with most seven year olds that I know. I was
gonna say that, Jeff, that when Jason's living lavishly, he

(01:41:49):
stucks up on lunchables. Seriously ate lunchables yesterday, and not lunchables,
but snackers, salmons, lunch you and my you and my
three year old can have once together. I wouldn't have
to make I wouldn't have to make you anything separate,
and you could just only the bounce houses involved. Oh yeah,
we need to get into that. The way limit on

(01:42:09):
the bounce house and my house yesterday for my son's
birthday was so low it was disrespectful to anyone who
was an adult. That is fat shaming by the bounce
house industry. We'll talk about that, but first we're also
gonna have to get into this. Joey Chestnut has finally
apparently answered and closed the is a hot Dog of
sandwich debate. I still don't know that I buy it.

(01:42:30):
But I guess he's more of an expert than me.
We'll talk about that next, but first let's find out
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So Robert made a pretty good point there during that
trending update where he said that this should become a

(01:43:12):
thing where I should reach out to restaurants here in
Nashville and see who it is that wants to give
me my first cut of steak and turn it into
a big deal here. So, if there's a restaurant out
there that wants to try and make this like, wants
to give me my first cut of steak this week
so that I can speak to this situation. Reach out

(01:43:32):
to us at out kick or at j Mart out
Kick or at Jeff Schwartz, whatever it is that you
need to do to get in contact with us. I
will eat your free steak. The question I think becomes,
we need we need to figure out what kind of
steak will be best for you to have for your
first time. It sounds a lot like sex. Like this
whole talk is like your first time. I mean, I mean,

(01:43:55):
you know, bone in, no bone, fatty cut lean, um,
there's so many There's so many ways to have it.
I just don't I'm thinking about which way for you
for you to go. Should we start off deluxe go
filet or the bon ribbi that the ribi, the marble
ling and the bone and everything. I mean, I'm having
a steak for breakfast now. I think, dude, this is
utterly ridiculous just listening to all the different options. I

(01:44:18):
remember Dennis Leary and his old comedy act uh the
No Cure for Cancer things, saying the reason he never
smoked weed is because he didn't want to build anything.
Because people would make bongs out of everything from fruits
and all this it became too much work. It's like,
just listening to all this about the steak just makes
me never want to eat the steaks, Like, oh, do
you want it this side? Or do you want fatty?
Or do you want it lean? Or how about bones
and all these things. Hot dogs don't have bones. And

(01:44:40):
there's been a debate for years as to whether or
not hot dog is a sandwich. Miriam Webster that's a dictionary, folks,
says the hot dog is a sandwich. Anthony Bourdaine said
the hot dog was definitely not a sandwich. Apparently, the
U Taw Jazz suggests that the hot dog is also
not a sandwich. I don't know that they're experts, although
I'm sure they sell those at basketball games. But Joey Chestnut,

(01:45:01):
fresh off eating seventy two hot dogs Dunkedin Water this
year's Nathan's Famous International hot Dog Eating Contest back on
the Fourth, has said, no, the hot dog is not
a sandwich. He says, quote, you start considering a hot
dog of sandwich and you're like, oh, because there's carbs
around it, then you have to start kinda is a
gyro of sandwich? Because that's kind of like, no, you
have to keep division. So Joey Chestnut has come out

(01:45:24):
and said that the hot dog is not a sandwich. Jeff,
this is the first time I think I've ever agree
with Joey Chestnut over anything. I mean, I don't agree
on anyone eating seventy two hot dogs at one time.
That's disgusting. Um. But um, I don't eat hot dogs.
By the way, Am I weird for not eating hot dogs? No?
I mean I really don't need them now because of
my diet. But there, you don't know what's in hot dogs.

(01:45:46):
And when you find out that kind of ye, it's
it's not a problems like two a week. I'm I'm
on this train. I I think the hot dogs a
separate category. You have a taco hot dog? Do you
have a sandwich? I don't know why it's controversial at all.
You can thinking he's separate. Um, I've always been on
the train of a hot dog is its own category.

(01:46:07):
We're gonna have my brother on at some point this week.
He needs that, by the way, and I think he
is opposite of me. He also believes the boneless wings
are better than regular wings, which I have a huge
problem with as well, because a boneless wing is a
chicken tender. It's not a wing. I don't know why
it's called a wing. Just like a hot dog should
not be a sandwich. It's its own thing. It's a
hot dog. Is a hamburger sandwich? Well, it's hamburger. I

(01:46:31):
mean it's bread and anything, and it's condiments and occasionally
it's cheese both a burger and a hot dog. Like
what exactly is the different if I put my meat
between two pieces of bread like a hot dog, is
that a sandwich? Like? I don't understand what is like,
It's just it's anything between two pieces of bread is
considered a sandwich. You know what it is? I think
because ketchup is involved, it's not a sandwich because who

(01:46:55):
puts ketchup on a turkey sandwich, a tuna sandwich and
other kind of sandwiches? Right, right, I mean right, I know.
But do you put ketchup on any sort of sandwich
on a burger? So is a burger not a sandwich?
Then it's not so catchup. So ketchups involvement means it's
not a sandwich. Yes, ketchup is the deciding factor. That's
that's a great point. It's a great point. That's the

(01:47:16):
that's a good dividing line. If you have to put
on ketchup on in a meal like that, that's a
that's a great point. I've never thought about that before,
because you can do mayonnaise on a sandwich and mayonnaise
on burger. Of course, whyse mayonnaise even Jason, Look, dude,
we we were good buddies before this show. And I
just don't know how they continue mayonnaise or two of

(01:47:38):
the most vile creations in a history of Earth. Okay,
so you've lost a bunch of weight. You don't eat salads.
I love salads. I eat them naked. I'm sorry, I
mean them. The salads are naked. There's there's no dressing
on them. Came out very poorly for me. You eat
done with etan with no dressing, with no clothes on.

(01:47:59):
Why why why don't you like dressing? Because it's terrible stuff,
just tastes awful. But there's so many varieties. You can
make anything you like. For you can have an olive
oil dressing, you have a vinteigratte, you can have a
ranch and Italian, a French, a blue cheek. Because so
many it's not just one type of dressing. So it's
a hot dog a hot dog? Or is a hot

(01:48:20):
dog a American taco? I saw that argument made as well,
Like it's just bread with meat inside it, and you
could certainly put cheese on it or whatever else, relish
or whatever. Why is that not a taco? Then? If
it's not, is it really just only okay to call
a hot dog a hot dog? I know Barrett Siley,
who we have on the show a lot, We're gonna
have him on later this week from the SEC media days,

(01:48:41):
he's been very, very vociferous that a hot dog is
not a sandwich. I just don't know that hot dog
is just its own existent thing. Although the catchup argument
might be the best argument I've ever heard, because I
don't really think people put catch up on many sandwiches.
So what's a broad worst between two? Is that now
brought or sandwich if you put it between two pieces

(01:49:01):
of bread making a buns? Plus, oh my god, this
is like so upsetting. Plus so your whole book was
about food, Um, it wasn't hot food. Um. Also, the
hot dog is technically only one piece of bread, that's

(01:49:21):
the bun. I mean that you normally the bun is connected, right,
the just one piece of bread folded over. It's not
two separate pieces of bread like a sandwich would be.
Do you think a gyro is a sandwich or do
you agree with Joey Chestnut that that's also separate anything else?
A gyro is a wrap, right sandwich? Uh? No, I

(01:49:42):
think it's a wrap. It's it's also why can't they
all be like their separate their own subcategories. They're all
separate of each other. I mean, what, like, what's the
larger classification that all of these things reside in? Then?
Like there has to be some kind of group, you know,
Um yeah, not a Americans simple lunch foods. I don't know.

(01:50:04):
I mean that's just like I don't think they're just easy,
easy to consume food. Robert hot Dogs a sandwich, right, No,
it's not a sandwich, jarro will a euro is not
a sandwich either. Yeah. Sorry, I don't know, clays out
so I had to get something wrong to make sure

(01:50:25):
it's still felt like outkare. Yeah, I just I don't.
You can't convince me a hot talks the sandwich. Do
you think that Joey Chestnut is an expert enough that
basically this is over because he said that, even though
Miriam Webster has said it to Sandwich for decade. What
does Mirriam Webster not mean as much as Joey Chesna.

(01:50:47):
Look screw Miriam, Screw Webster. Okay, we get our hot
dog advice from the Jaws Joey Chestnut. What think happens
to someone's body when they eat seventy two hot dogs?
I mean obviously he goes in purjas afterwards, but still,
I mean, he's not per all seventy two of them,
like he has to purchase them. There's no way he
just sits with seventy two hot dogs. I don't know

(01:51:08):
when when it works out. That's like his workout, Like
I'm gonna when I get out of here, I'm gonna
go do an hour on the treadmill. He probably pounds
fifty hot dogs when he's when he's in training, I
don't know if he If it's at noon on July four,
right in noon, what time do you think he eats again?
He just has dinner like normal, or do you think
he waits twenty four hours? It's just and like to
process that hot dogs are discussing your process that in

(01:51:31):
your bowels. It's it's gonna lead to just I don't
even want to think about it. But you don't eat
hot dogs, so maybe your opinion doesn't matter. I've never
really had no I'm not never been a hot dog guy.
I'm not, to be honest with you, I'm not a
big would you consider like American food? Like I'm not
a big burger hot dog guy. I'd rather have like
a broad worst or a Polish dog, or um any

(01:51:55):
sort of ethnic food rather than just like a hamburger
and hot dogs. We'll continue to look at the pole
as to whether or not a hot dog is a sandwich.
We'll throw that out here in just a little bit.
Of course, I'm getting mentioned now as to where I
need to get a steak, because that that's gonna be
my Twitter existence for the rest of the day. I'm
also being told cannot be cooked medium, must be medium, rare,

(01:52:16):
must be filet mignon, must be at this place. That
is a lot of work, Like if I have to
take the really the first time, Yeah, this is the
best way to have it. Okay, maybe steak, do not
put catch up on your steak that this qualifies your
steak of eating experience. By the way, just putting ketchup

(01:52:37):
on it means I have not eaten a steak. Yeah,
that doesn't qualify as a steak about one or whatever
those things are. If you go to the right place,
you will not need steak sauce. Yeah, that's what people
have said. So again I have to continue to like
discern what the right places. Will continue to talk about
this on the other side as well. More animal thunderdome

(01:52:57):
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free stay. If you convince me that your place is good,
I'll buy your steak. You just tell me where I

(01:53:18):
need to have my first cut of steak here in Nashville.
Apparently there are a lot of good places. Is I'm
getting many many messages right now on Twitter about this
steak situation, and I've got my co host, Jeff Swartz
is down in Charlotte, former an NFL Lineman, who was
saying he's very very sad and disappointed in me, is
unsure you can do the show for the rest of
the week because steak has never been a part of
a meal that I have ever been a part of.

(01:53:40):
That's apparently unacceptable. Apparently, no, it is unacceptable. I think
what we need to do is we need to find
someone in Nashville to give you a steak and have
it ready few in the morning, and you need to
eat it all on air. It might obviously not be
the best radio but just hearing you eat the steak
and then just this you you're gonna have this reaction,

(01:54:01):
like just excitement. We'll be able to feel it over
the radio. It would be like a Tebow watch, which
we'll get to at some points this week as well.
I I can't wait to talk about Tebow. I know
we have a lot of listeners in the South. They're
probably not gonna like my opinion about Tim Tebow. Uh,
you're probably yeah, it's a very very good tease. I

(01:54:22):
would say that you're almost assuredly right on that situation.
So we haven't really talked about this at all, and
maybe we'll talk a little bit more about it tomorrow.
Here we're gonna do animal thunderde We'll save that and
we'll do it. We'll do it tomorrow. There's a good
monkey story out there, also another bear story and an
alligator story in California. So you guys are doing it
right out there. Um, home run derby tonight. How interested

(01:54:43):
are you in this? Jeff? We haven't really talked about
this at all. We're not really a baseball show, per se.
I care a little bit because Judge and Bellinger in
it and last year's winner, but I just don't care
about this anymore. There was a time I was glued
to this, but I'll I'll watch it because I need
to watch it for my job. But that's probably the
only re alternate a little bit, uh, you know for me,

(01:55:05):
when I was young and you weren't able to watch
as much baseball as you are now with MLB TV.
I pay for MLB TV. I watch my Giants when
I can, But you know, you used to have to
wait to All Star weekend to watch the best players
in baseball either hit home runs or play in the
All Star Game, and now you don't. You get to
see him all the time, interally play MLB TV all
the highlights shows. I watch, um the Quick Pitch in

(01:55:27):
the morning on MLB Network sometimes to get, you know,
gather all the baseball news I need, I need from
last night. And so it's just not exciting. Where I've
seen Stanton hit home runs, I've seen Balinger hit. Um,
I hate the Dodgers. I've seen plenty of Balinger hit
home runs. Uh when I when I didn't need to.
Half the media I follow is our New Yorkers on Twitter.
They love Aaron Judge. I've seen plenty of his highlights.
So watching home runs to me, uh, you know, hit

(01:55:49):
a bunch of home runs tonight, It's just not very exciting.
But I will say, though, not having Chris Berman yell
back back back back back, it might be a reason
why I too need to watch a derby tonight. Danny,
you're very excited about this, right, You're big time Dodgers fans,
So you're definitely watching Cody Bellingers. Yes, Yes, in southern California,

(01:56:10):
we are gonna loudly chair on Bellinger. In fact, I
was at the stadium Saturday, some bust out of his
slump with a home run and then his walk off
walk to get the Dodgers their sixtie win and then
yesterday they're sixty one. So who would have thought that
Dodgers would have the best record in all of baseball.
You sound like you're smiling and maybe your pants are

(01:56:30):
off right now as you were talking about the Dodgers there. Yeah,
but I'm not eating a salad. But I'm telling you
his pants won't be off when it comes to playoffs
when they lose again. So I mean, how dare you? Yeah,
it's tough, all right, We'll see how the home run
derby goes. We might talk about that tomorrow. Certainly, more
animal Thunderdome, more hijinks here. Appreciate you getting up early

(01:56:51):
with us. Remember you can follow us on Twitter at
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