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Speaker 3 (00:46):
I'm feeling good man. I felt overly entertained last night
a bit by Shane Gillison The SPI's I'm always curious though,
to get the reaction. I've not checked social media to
see who got offended, Who saw you know, whose feelings
were hurt because he made a couple jokes that might
have crossed the line. Here or there.

Speaker 4 (01:06):
That's what they're there to do. That's why they bring
them in across the line. That's why they're comedians. You
get away with it, you know. But people are very
sensitive these days and well catching aliens today in today's world,
I mean, you know, it's it's gonna be it's gonna
be interesting conversations that ensue afterwards, you know, whether it's
Adam Silver or you know, or the baseball player that

(01:29):
he named you know, what was his last name, Sosa
or something to that effect. What was it?

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah, I just I feel like, Uh, the thing I
like about Shane Gillis is anybody can get it like
it doesn't there is no I've got I've got a
certain grouping I'll go after. Like no, I'm just gonna
go after everybody. And everybody got a little taste of
Shane Gillis last night at the SP's. I do not
partake in the SP's personally. Uh, it feels very manufactured.

(01:58):
But when you see that it's a show, well, I
mean it's a show and it's a bad one. Oh,
it's not very good. I don't know who made up
the sps, who came up with it. It's just it
ain't great, but it's just not my thing, not my
cup of tea.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
But shots out to my homie, Katie, my litter mate,
we were in school together. Shots out to her, Shots
out the Saquon. I thought the SPS did really well
representing h representing Penn State's community, and I was proud
of us. Thanks to the SPS for, you know, giving

(02:35):
us so much love. We are yeah Penn State baby.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Talking about we give we give Penn State love here
on this show.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
Yeah, well all right, yeah all right, yeah top gunn
top top Yeah, here we go. Yeah, we are baby.
All right.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
So with that being said, here was some snippets from
Shane Gillis last night, and we'll just roll through and
play one right after the other, and then after we're
it's kind of breakdown.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
How many clips are there? One, one, two, three, four, five, six,
six clips? Let's let's rank four yeah not five.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, So we'll go let's just uh, let's fire them
all off, and then we'll break down the the best
to worst.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
After number one.

Speaker 5 (03:18):
S g A is here, give it up for SGA.
Hell yeah, bro, And now everybody's sitting around him is
in foul trouble. When Caitlyn Clark retires from the w NBA.
She's going to work at a waffle house so she
can continue doing what she loves most, fist fighting black women.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
The New Yorks had a great season.

Speaker 5 (03:42):
Uh yeah, hell yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Karl Anthony Towns is here. Hay girl.

Speaker 4 (03:49):
Oh.

Speaker 5 (03:52):
Four time w NBA All Star Britney Hicks is here.
Give it up for Brittany. Everybody, this was so good.
I'm uh, I'm joking around. That's my friend's wife.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
I knew.

Speaker 5 (04:02):
None of you knew WNBA players. Snor Sanders had his
jersey number retired to Colorado this year, and people are
saying it's because of nepotism, because of his father, and
it's not. It's because he went thirteen and twelve over
his career and he almost won the Alamo Bule. Definitely
not nepotism, right, all right? Donald Trump wants to stage

(04:24):
a UFC fight on the White House lawn. The last
time he staged a fight in DC, Mike Pence almost died.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
Alright, you don't have to do that.

Speaker 5 (04:37):
It was fine. I didn't write it. Actually, there was
supposed to be an Epstein joke here, but.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
Guys have got deleted.

Speaker 5 (04:48):
Must have probably deleted itself, right, probably never existed. Actually,
let's move on as a country and ignore that.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
Uh, y'all want rank them? YEA want? Number one? Was
the last last one was number one? I'm gonna going
I'm gonna say number one. What I think the last
one hit number one, But.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
I don't know the Caitlin Clark fighting flouse.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
That's gotta be a number two. I go number two
with that one. We didn't even use.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
The funny thing about the pretty Hicks one was I
believe that is just his buddy and his wife, and
it's like, you know, they point the camera go at
that point, everybody clapped everyone And.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
She didn't even play in the w n b A.
Just a black woman sitting there and it's in bass standard. Dang.
I mean it proved the point though, Stop acting like like,
stop acting like stuff matters and getting outraged when somebody
calls it out. I'm sorry, like I'm sorry. The w
n b A will not pass up the NBA in popularity.

(05:57):
It will not. It will not. All these people saying
that it is, I don't understand what you're basing that
off of. And you know what Shane Gill is totally
put your own blast because all y'all cat's ringing the
bell on that topic, we're clapping your hands for a
lady that doesn't even play in the WNBA.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say
he probably won't be invited back to do the Seas again.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
Why they got to approve your your material?

Speaker 3 (06:24):
First off? First off, why that's what everyone said after
he got canned from Saturday Live. Then he comes back
to host it. I think he's done it twice now
since then.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
I just think people are too sensitive over there, man,
like they just are. And you know, he could said, well,
you know, I didn't write it, and then he adds
in an Epstein joke. He could have gone off the
script there and they don't know about it, like it
just you know, there's I just I remember Norm McDonald
I think did the SPS one year and just laid

(06:55):
in and didn't play nice, and there were a lot
of people that were upset. I think John Lway got
pissy about it because he took some shots at John
l Way. I just I thought it was hilarious, but
there was a lot of people who got a little
bit clown especially for the w NBA. I just don't
understand you.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
You hire never played, Never Played, You hire comedians to
do awkward and and like weird stuff. Yes, that you
want people to feel weirded out and awkward from That's
why you hire them. That's why you hire them. If
that's not the direction you're going in, I mean, you

(07:35):
can look at the names and put together how you
feel about it. I mean, come on, let's let's be
real here. Dang ce Q looking like John Travolta.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
No one, I don't know that you want to be.

Speaker 4 (07:54):
Going preling walk talk like a t bur praling. Y'all
know about y'all know about Grease. No, y'all know about
Grease the team.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
I haven't seen Grease in a long time. Come on, man,
I'm actually I'm one hundred percent okay with admitting that too.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
Dang bro, that's a good that's a good musical man,
all of them were. Man, that's sad.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Look real quick, real quick? All right? Can we pass
up the Karl Anthony towns Hey girl.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Hey girl, Hey girl, fantastic?

Speaker 3 (08:28):
I mean, well, I just I think I got lost
in the shuffle of everything else that was on and
then also has has Prime responded back to the Schdor
Sanders joke.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Oh, I don't know, but he I mean, yeah, that's
a good point. He would make time.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
Let's see, uh, fifteen and thirteen, dang I had thirteen
and twelve, thirteen and twelve, thirteen to twelve.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
Yeah, I mean he does own like every stat I
think passing stat they ever have at Colorado in his defense.
And by the way, there were a one win team
before he got there, so.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah, I mean. And also, is that Dion Sanders fault
or the program's fault for not doing something sooner for
some of those guys? Was it Dion Figures? Who was
the guy who want to tell you? Yeah, like, why
didn't they step up and do something about it? Like
if he was great, he had all those years to
celebrate him, they didn't do it like that Dion's fault.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
That's a pretty interesting one. I mean, again, he's not
I don't know when you look at the Chador Sanders situation,
and you could look at his body of work and say, okay,
he's broken records and stuff like that, But you have
a guy in Dion Figures who is in the College

(09:45):
Football Hall of Fame. He is in the College Football
Hall of Fame, and he was an All American. And
you know, Chador isn't an All American. I mean he's
he's not not by the recognized public as he's not
an All Americans. So in theory, well it's not in theory,
he he won't be a College Football Hall of Famer.

(10:08):
And you have a guy that's in the College Football
Hall of Fame and that same exact number is retired
under a different guy who won't be a College Football
Hall of Famer. Well, Brittany, that's just a little perspective.
I mean, I'm not trying to throw shade. I'm just
saying that's just a little perspective.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
That's all.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Will Brittany Hicks get her jersey retire?

Speaker 4 (10:27):
That's It's a great question. That's a great, great question.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
At some point, I think we should be we should
be part of the movement. Let's let's start this movement.
Let's be the ones that push Yeah, not that one,
not that hashtag Hicks Hall.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
By the way, there's some w for the Hall of
Fame Dawn like they should have they should have a
Britney Hicks babble that night. And for some franchise out
there that's looking to draw like that's that'll be a
collector's item one day based on what Gillis did.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
Uh lean into it, right to lean into it?

Speaker 4 (11:05):
The hey girl, like you say, a Q, I mean
there's something to that one. I mean there's something to
that one.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
What is to that?

Speaker 4 (11:13):
I didn't get that one? Oh really you didn't get
that one?

Speaker 3 (11:16):
Tell me what you talked about this during the Knicks.
We talked about this during the run.

Speaker 4 (11:23):
Man, real feel, real zesty feel to it. But you know, hey,
you know it's all right. I mean he's the big cat.
You know, they don't call him the big dog. They
called him the big cat for a freeze.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
I've got u k A Lums reaching out to me.
Tell him that he's been zesty since since his college.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
No kidding, So.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
I mean look up, top cat. I mean, look, you know,
everybody's got their own style. So you know, Caleb Williams
has a rosebind is here, you know during photo shoots.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
So there's nothing that's your quarterback. That's your quarterback?

Speaker 4 (12:05):
That is you? You say, who is this?

Speaker 3 (12:09):
I couldn't tell. It was a weird angle, I'll be honest.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
The flower took up half the photo weird angle. I mean,
I would agree it wasn't a great angle. I could
take it all the way in c it was like
right there, it was a it was interesting.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
By the way, do you think the Tom Brady Roast
on Netflix kind of opened up the door to maybe
people being a little bit more open minded two comedians
letting it fly like this, Well, because look, I love roast,
I love comedians. I think it's hilarious. When people get

(12:50):
offended by it, I think it's even more hilarious. And
it seems like since all of that, the Tom Brady
Roast that there's been a lot of people became stars
off that. I think that's still Netflix's biggest event that
they put on like that, that's one of the one
of their bigger events they.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
Put Here's what I think started it. I think during
COVID when people were at home and podcasting became a
big thing, Joe Rogan continually I think gained more attraction,
and a lot of the comedians that have gone through there,
I think, you know, they tell a bit of their jokes,

(13:28):
you know, not that they're doing a stand up necessarily,
but you see the humor, you see some of the
jokes that come from that. I thought that was kind
of the initial momentum behind it where it started to build,
where it was like, oh, it's okay for us to
like just make fun of things and look at how
ridiculous things are at this point in time in human nature.
I think that was one of the moments that I

(13:48):
don't know if it's because maybe we were going crazy
because of COVID and all the different regulations or lack thereof,
whatever side you're on, whatever, It just it felt like
that was kind of the start of it where people
started being like looking around and going, what are we
doing here? This is kind of ridiculous. It started it
started to build from there a little bit, and I

(14:10):
think that was that was the start, at least in
my now.

Speaker 4 (14:12):
I just feel like we've been to our fair share
of of award shows, you know, award banquets, whether it's
high school, whether it was a college one, whether it
was a bigger college one like the ESPN you know,
home depots or whatever it may have been. You know,
a wilder camp. You break on the people that are there,

(14:34):
like if it's somebody a part of your team or
your coach or your coach is going up you. That's
what you're supposed to do. Not at the Oscars. Gotta
be careful. You get slapped in the face.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
You got to be careful, you know, at the Oscars
you can't. I can't mess around with that.

Speaker 4 (14:47):
I just thought that was show. Show culture is to
bring somebody on that's going to say crazy stuff out
of their mouth. And they're comedians, so you can chock
it up to the fact that this this is why
they hired this person to do the job. I don't
feel like that's anything new, and I don't feel like
people should be outraged by it. That's just that's what

(15:09):
comedians do. That's their profession, is to say outrageous things
that are uncomfortable, making fun of society and culture. That's
what they do.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
I don't think I'm going out on a limb here.
I think if Shane Gillis never got asked to do
it again, I think he'd be one hundred percent okay
with that.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
Oh yeah, it's like he got his money.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
Do they get paid for doing this, by the way.

Speaker 4 (15:28):
I believe so. I believe so do they. I'm pretty
certain that this one they get paid. Yeah, so who
from Disney? Yes, I would assume so yes, okay, because.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
I mean I know certain things they're like, oh no,
it's the platform, which he's got a bit of enough platform.
He doesn't need that now. But I always way like,
is it worth it? Is it worth it to go
on to show if you tick off some people again
or maybe it's like a one off and it never
happens again, maybe just to check that box, say he
did it one time. Or to have the ability to
stand up on a stage and then make fun of

(16:00):
just the audacity to make fun of like the greatest
athletes on the planet. It's kind of it's kind of
funny if you think about it, like you've made it
to a certain spot in life. If you've got the
ability to just stand up on stage and make jokes
about anyone, anyone can get it. Everyone's going to get
it and you can have fun with it. Like that's
that's probably like actually a pretty pretty big measures step,

(16:22):
I'd say for some comedians.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
GROXA is it's generally negotiated with the show producer who
you know, what they what they get paid, so they
it's ranged from fifteen hundred dollars to something other, which
is crazy.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
That's fifteen. He said, that's what it is. Just do
a donation and that's the case.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
Yeah. Who Norm McDonald when he hosted, reportedly received fifteen
fifteen hundred dollars. That's one five zero zero right, and
no doubt he gambled that away right afterwards. Oh really,
they're in Vegas. They're here and Norm McDonald. Nor McDonald's
a big time gambler. He went bankrupt. He went bankrupt twice.

(17:07):
Gambling you love fighting out like peoples downside. I'm not.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
He's talked about it.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
Name okay, name me right now, real quick, off the
top of your head. I know you want to do
a read and get to whatever. Namely five people you
had a ridiculously bad gambling habit that were there were
like superstars and and any realm any realm.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Uh that are gambling scandals, Uh, Tim donaghy, Uh, Norm McDonald,
Calvin Ridley.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
They're a former in Vegas who's got a residency. Rumors
are oute about that.

Speaker 4 (17:44):
Bruno Mores.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Oh yes, Bruno Mars, the degenerate.

Speaker 4 (17:48):
Is that the Bruno Mars is on that list?

Speaker 2 (17:50):
Yeah yeah. Phil Micholson was another one that's you know,
not to insult any golf fans out there. But Phil
Micholson was another one that was involved in that. It's
far listen, please.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
The live tour. I think he's free range to consult it.

Speaker 4 (18:03):
Listen.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
There's nothing wrong with gambling. I'm just pointing out Norm
McDonald had a he went bankrupt twice because of gambling.
Just saying, man, you know, doesn't change the fact he's
one of the all time greats. I'm not gonna say it.
Michael Jordan had a gambling issue, all right. Those are
the reckless allegations made by people. They may have stepped away.

Speaker 4 (18:20):
I mean, it's it's documented that you he they gambled,
but they say that as NBA culture was gambling.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Yeah, ihther wrong with that? Okay, well I do know this.
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Speaker 2 (19:16):
It's The Dan Patrick Show, Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington,
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taking you all the way up until noon Eastern time,

(19:38):
nine o'clock Pacific. Still kind of reeling from lead to lap,
our executive producers hot dog count from yesterday on National
Hot Dog Day, revolting the five hot dogs Lee had
yesterday in a four to five hour span because it
was Hot Dog Day? Is that more than you've had
in your entire life?

Speaker 3 (19:58):
Brady, Like, I'd have to go back so far to
think about the last time. I mean, I haven't ate
many hot dogs I had. I threw them up one
time I was a kid, and that was kind of it.
But once you see like what you eat thrown back up,
it's hard to then eat that again. At least that's
that's not is for me. I don't know if it

(20:19):
is for you guys. I mean, is that is that
too much? Is that team hut?

Speaker 4 (20:27):
I have a weak stomach. Man, It's all good you
If you could have seen.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
The way I threw up all over this little like
back patio, it was covered and it was a combination
of hot dogs, orange juice, and chips at like six
in the morning. My dad, Chopper came out and just goes,
what the hell he's just He gets the hose out,
he sprang down the back patio and he's sprang me down.

(20:53):
At the same time, I'm like in my pajamas, just
soaking wet with puke and everything on me. It was
not good.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
You know. It brings up a fond memory of throwing
up for me as well.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
You know New Orleans.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
No not, I didn't throw up in New Orleans, New Orleans. No, No,
I did it. I did it. But my daughter she
didn't want to go to school this one day in particular,
the one that just celebrated her tenth birthday, and she's like, oh,
you know, my stomach is hurting, Like my stomach hurts.
Then you know you it's an eight year old kid.

(21:28):
You're like, your stomach doesn't hurt. Your stomach is going
to be just fine. You gotta go to school. We're
driving to school. We almost are to school. She's like, Dad,
my stomach hurts. And I was like, I was like,
it's just odd that the closer we're getting the school.
And before I could even finish my sentence, she I

(21:48):
mean she hit the back seat up, she hit my arm,
the arm rest, the foot. Oh you wasn't lying. And
it looked like it like tpto bismal. I had no
idea why it came out that the color that it did,
and like the texture of what it was. It was bad.

(22:13):
But I turned around and took her home.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
What's the old adage, you know, just listen to your body.
It'll tell you everything you need to know. If something hurts,
don't do it. If if something comes from what if
you think somebody's given you an excuse? I felt bad.
Only one way to prove you wrong.

Speaker 4 (22:28):
Well, I've never questioned her again. She was telling the truth.
He got an honest kid there, I guess. So sure
I gave it up all of it too.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
Well. I don't know if you know if Russell Wilson's
ready to give it up.

Speaker 4 (22:43):
Yet clearly he's not.

Speaker 5 (22:45):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
This was in speaking with Connor Or of Sports Illustrated,
Russell Wilson spoke about how much longer he wants to play.
Quote five plus years. I can still throw the ball
sixty five seventy yards. I can't move, and I think
I'm capable of doing a lot. It's funny because to
me being in Denver in my first year, I was
hurt most of the time and battled through it. The

(23:08):
second year I felt like myself again. Then going to
Pittsburgh obviously unfortunately I got injured early in the season,
didn't end up the way we wanted it to, but
it just rejuvenated everything. And then being here in New
York with the Giants, it's like playing at the stadium
again knowing that I've held the trophy here before. So
that was Russell Wilson talking with Connor Orr about his

(23:29):
desire to keep playing four or five more years. This
is his fourth team in five years. Hasn't the market
kind of already spoken on him? And they just drafted
a quarterback in the first round, So it feels like
it's more likely that if.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
You brought in a backup that could beat him out.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
Yeah, it just feels like it's more likely that if
he does want to play four or five more years,
it's going to be in situations like this where yeah,
he's the starter for the time being until the rook
or the younger quarterback gets developed. That's what it feels
like at this point in his career.

Speaker 4 (24:05):
Go cute, you got it.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
I think it's hard for every athlete. It doesn't matter,
by the way, like at what level, but in particular
when you're at the professional level, and even for someone
who has won a Super Bowl, has been to two,
has you know, played at an MVP level, I think
to feel like they're not able to get the job done, right.

(24:31):
I think we all like to some degree. I mean again, LeVar,
I'm sure there's times when you see, man, man, you're like, oh,
I could take them. Like if I find you need
to go in for a few plays, I could do it. Now,
can you do it consistently for the entirety of a game,
for the entirety of a season. That's where it gets
a lot more difficult, not only for your your level
of performance, but just to stay healthy. I mean, one

(24:53):
of the things that he admitted to you when he's
saying this too, is the injuries that have crept up
more and more. You remember how durable l Wilson was
at the beginning of his career, despite the fact that
he put himself in harm's way all the time. I mean, dude,
how often did we see him in his rookie and
even second, third, fourth seasons. There'd be these players where
you'd be like, holy cow, is Houdini? How do you

(25:16):
find his way out of that? How did he make
that throw? How did he make that player get out
of you know, and scrambled it to run and pick
up the first down. Now, at times, you know, he
never took the big shot for the most part, But
I think as it wore on and as he kind
of realized that that's harder and harder to do. As
you age and you're not quite as fast or explosive,

(25:36):
your game has to change as well. And I think
that's one of the things that not just for him.
It's difficult for any professional athlete to be able to
see that because the game mentally is slown down, like
what you see out there is like in slow mo.
You know where everyone's supposed to be, you know what
the responsibilities are. Then it becomes more of a battle

(25:58):
of the physical and your ability to actually do it
and get your body to do what you wanted to
do when you need it to be done. And that's
where I feel like there's a bit of a disconnect
probably between you know, how he's feeling, how he's played,
but what he thinks about, you know, everything mentally, because
he's like, dude, this game's never felt easier in my

(26:19):
mind watching it and seeing it. So it's it's just
kind of interesting to me when you hear these words
because at times, you know they might come off it
sound like Uncle Rico from Napoleon Dynamite. You know, it
comes off a little bit like that.

Speaker 4 (26:36):
But how much you want to make a bet I
can throw a football over.

Speaker 7 (26:39):
The mountain, I'll just say like, at times it feels
like that, but then at other times you go, okay,
like he just feels like he's healthy now he's in
a better spot to go and perform.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
But time will tell. I mean the draft pick two
behind him that you know the fans are gonna be
clamoring for him. The organization is eventually going to want
to see what they have in Jackson Dart. He's obviously
a first round draft pick for a reason. So the
running's that kind of already on the wall, and I
think that's what makes it difficult for Russell Wilson. The
spot he has to hit the ground running. There can't
be any lag or stall or anything in his performance.

(27:17):
And the injuries like he had last year starting off
in Pittsburgh where he couldn't get into the season healthy,
none of that can take place. He's got a very
very slim margin for air to start this thing, get
off on a hot start to maintain being the starting quarterback.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
By the way, to your point, he didn't miss a
start until his last year in Seattle, and I think
that was the mallet finger he suffered. He suffered the
mallet finger his final year in Seattle, and then he
missed a couple of games, but before that, never missed
a game, never missed a start his entire career.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
And by the way, and I've told you this because
as I to this day, I had malefinger my index
fingers on my throng hands. Never never felt the same
after that. And you know, again, I don't know exactly
what he went through from the procedure everything else. And
it sounds like something so small, like LeVar is probably like, oh,
like what are your index finger?

Speaker 4 (28:02):
No?

Speaker 3 (28:02):
No, But it's like for a throw, it's important, right,
Like that's like a little thing where you see, like
a major league baseball pitcher, he's like on the il
for like a hangnail, but like it's kind of important
if they can't throw the way they need to. And
I don't know that he's ever been the same throwing
the football in his career after that. And again, something small,
but those injuries add up and it changes the way

(28:24):
you play.

Speaker 4 (28:25):
Let me throw this out at you guys. We talked
about Bill Belichick or excuse me, Robert Kraft and what
he had to say and taking the risk in hiring
Bill Belichick, which to me was a flex to remind
people like, let's slow down here, let's not get carried
away about talking about Bill Belichick because he's going to
be a Hall of Fame coach. Let's not get carried

(28:48):
away about who he was a part of making a
legendary player and Tom Brady because I'm the one that
made it all possible with what I did. He's searching
for that battle. He's searching for that appreciation. I look
at Russell Wilson, and I think he's searching for the validation.

(29:09):
I think he's still searching for the appreciation. He's going
to two Super Bowls, as you've mentioned, he's won one
Super Bowl, as we've mentioned. I don't know what the
ten Pro Bowls are. I don't know if they are
first first ballot Pro Bowlers or if they're alternate Pro Bowlers,

(29:31):
which it does. I mean at some point, I don't
know if it still matters, but at some point it
mattered if you were an alternate versus if you were
a starter to the Pro Bowl. So I don't know
how many of those ten are are one or the other.
But outside of that, he's never been a first team
All Pro and if you look at his body of work,

(29:54):
if he's not as appreciated as he needs to be
going into retirement or possibly ending up being a career
backup for the rest of his time, as an NFL player,
is he is he at risk of not being a
Hall of Famer, And I wonder if that is what's

(30:16):
circulating in his mind within this five year period of time.
I'm in a great market. It's a really good situation
to be in. I know New York has struggled, but
I'm kind of high on this Giants team this year.
I think they're going to surprise some people. And if
he can be the catalyst at the quarterback's position in

(30:38):
that that type of a season doing it in New York.
Is one year enough depending on what type of success
they have to solidify his career, or does it take one.
I think at this point I throw it out at you, guys,
and you could take it however you know where you
want to take it. But I think he still needs

(30:59):
more more than one good season to solidify being at
least a first ballot Hall of Famer let alone, possibly
could miss being a Hall of Famer if he doesn't
have critical years in these last few years that he
has in the league as a starter.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
Which is kind of crazy considering if you were to
say second to last year in Seattle. All Right, guys
in the NFL that are you think are going to
be Hall of Famers. He would have been one that
I would have thought had been a Hall of Famer.
But the post Seattle era has been so up and
down and played out so poorly publicly that I do
wonder if now the perception of him has changed from

(31:40):
people around the league, because it feels I mean, even J. C.
Trettor was you know, throwing him under the bus, you know,
for not you know, not getting the contract that he
was looking for and all that. It just feels like
there's a well, when the discussion happens around Russell Wilson,
it's never positive anymore. And that was never the case
in Seattle until the end. Until the end, Yeah, well,
I felt like last year got positive. I mean, he

(32:02):
came in and gave Pittsburgh a spark on offense. I know,
the season didn't end the way they wanted it to,
and he probably wasn't playing his best towards the end,
but you know, you factor in the pickens, you know,
sometimes deciding he wants to be out.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
There, maybe doesn't, I don't know. I mean there was
a compilation I saw in social media last season when
I was like, I could only imagine like, I was
fortunate enough to play with so many receivers that you know,
you knew when they were upset, you knew when they
wanted the ball, and maybe they weren't getting the ball
either because the defense was taking them away or they
weren't the number one read on a certain progression. You know,

(32:36):
there were sometimes guys where they're just having bad days
or they get too emotional about it, and you would
see that from time to time. But I never had
anyone who I felt like just wasn't going to participate
in the play. I mean there's times where I felt
like that watching him last year, So that played a
role as well. I just I had a former head

(32:58):
coach tell me one time, when you start moving around
to teams, He's like, it's really really hard to gain
traction again. And he told me this at this point
when I was a backup, and you know, really they
were offering me an opportunity to come back as a backup,
and I just I wanted to take a chance to
go see if I can compete to start, or be
in a situation where if I was a backup, I'd

(33:18):
have a better chance of playing. Like to me, I
hated holding a clipboard. I hated sitting in meeting rooms
and basically being an insurance agent. Like that's what you
are as a backup quarterback. You're the insurance policy where
you go in and all of a sudden you've got
to feel in the void like a starter, not getting
the preparation, not getting the practice as far as the

(33:38):
same as a starter. But that's the expectation. And I
was always like men of stinks, like I always needed reps.
You know, I was slow to learn how to read
when I was young. I was I was always kind
of slower to develop in that regard. So I was
always someone who wanted to have, you know, more, more
of an opportunity to play and to actually learn from experience.
And I think that's the tough art for Russell Wilson,

(34:01):
is you get to this point where you can't find traction.

Speaker 4 (34:03):
How long did it take.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
I don't know how long it took. I'd have to
go back and talk to my mom, but I just remember,
you know, her needed to take extra time. He needed
to take a little extra time in school as well.
But again I digress, Yeah that was me.

Speaker 4 (34:18):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
But I think one of the things is when you
get to a point like you're saying, Jonas, what four
teams in five years? It gets hard to find traction
because everyone that's there around you hasn't experienced the success
you had in Seattle.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
They don't know you as that credibility.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
No, no, maybe think about think about this, Like think
about how long us three now have worked together. We
were together for years now, so we know when we
see each other at superl whatever, we like, we know
what to expect. We know like even if hey, one
of us goes out with Lee, you know, Lee's a
wild time. Like we know we're still we know we're
us three with Lee. We know us through gonna show

(35:00):
up and perform. Now, we don't know if Lee will
be there, but we know us we will show up
and performed. But like that's not the case now, Like
he's got to build that back up. You know, he's
only one Chili Cheese National Chili Cheese Dog Hot Dog
did away from you know, gassing up Chris Purfett, Who's
not gonna be able to produce this show anymore.

Speaker 4 (35:17):
Than that man could have shown up with chip teeth.
He could have been hit ran over by a mac truck.
I mean there were several different scenarios that could have
played out where I mean he didn't want to show
up to the one event because all of the cuts
and scrapes on on his face. I mean, it's just

(35:38):
it's bad Lee. It's a it's a it's a very
stressful time to wonder if we're going to roll with
Lee when it's a week long trip. That's that's it's
a great it's a great example, and in comparison, it's
a great comp.

Speaker 8 (35:53):
And then I step up as the d H in
the on Friday when you guys were hurting, No.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
We weren't hurting. We we were we I mean we
were tired. It was the end of the week.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
You only didn't go out because you face planted.

Speaker 8 (36:07):
That's why you didn't go out.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
The next day. Yeah, but I'm saying you didn't go
out that night like we did.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
Your nose.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
That's why we were hurting so bad. On Friday. You
were on I R.

Speaker 4 (36:18):
You're in your hotel, definitely, But we're a team, baby.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
Basketball.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
I was trying. I was feeding him drinks Thursday night before.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
And he was not saying shocking that you had to try.

Speaker 4 (36:29):
He was He was not saying, I'm just saying you
were bold enough to actually go on the journey into
you know, downtown, into to uh, what's the street called
Bourbon Street. Yeah, you guys, I just can't believe that
you would do it, Like, of all places to go
with Lee, where you knew it was the wrong place
where him would be, Bourbon Street would be tops on

(36:51):
that he was.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
He had like a three hour head start. I said, yeah,
I'll go check it out. And the best part is
I called Brady and because you were like you just
like staying in the hotel, and I called Brady. He's like, all,
what do you think? And do you want to get dinner?
I was like, I kind of want to check out
Bourbon Street and Brad He's like, yeah, I'm definitely not
doing that. Like okay, oh well I've never been, so
I want to go check it out. And I get there.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
By the way, Lee is in my defense, this is
also after a dude got killed. I'm pretty sure got
drugged and killed. Not saying that situation would play out
for me, but you know, it's not the safest place,
and it's like, I know we had one more night here.
You know why I put that a risk.

Speaker 4 (37:29):
Right, Yeah, we were safe in the hotel.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
Lee, why would we leave a good time with Avar
to go find a good time?

Speaker 4 (37:37):
Yeah, I mean we have a good time, we make
the party. But Lee, apparently he has to have more,
he has to go.

Speaker 8 (37:44):
And so I went and found that hand grenade.

Speaker 4 (37:47):
That's crazy.

Speaker 8 (37:47):
I was on assignment. I was on assignment.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
We did see our entire Fox crew. To Jonas, you
were like leaving at the worst possible time for your
professional career.

Speaker 4 (37:56):
Yeah, there was some dead man walking and that now
that you look back on it, Oh no, yeah, what.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
So that's a great point. How you think about it? Well,
listen to lead the lap Is. You know, he's like
our trusty old ride. And if you're still driving your
trust the old ride, keep it looking sharp with Maco
from dense to faded paint. We've got you covered. Get
a free estimate today. Uh, oh, better get Maco. You

(38:31):
say it, rusty ass, right, trust the.

Speaker 4 (38:33):
Old Oh don't you say it rusty ass?

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Whole other world?

Speaker 4 (38:37):
I mean that would have been more fitting. Uh.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
Coming up next here though, on The Dan Patrick Show
on Fox Sports Radio with LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas
Knox filling in. We are going to find out the
very latest. Could we be on the verge of a
blockbuster trade in the NFL. We've got it for you
right here on FSR.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
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Speaker 2 (39:03):
It is the Dan Patrick Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you in for
Dan and the guys coming up here and we'll call
it about twenty minutes from now. We are going to
have an interesting move made in the NFL in the
last twenty four hours and what it means moving forward.
That'll be yours here on FSR. But right now we

(39:25):
turn it over to the man himself, senior NFL reporter,
lead content strategist at the MMQB. You see him on Amazon,
NFL on Primes coverage during the year, and you can
get him on X at Albert Breer AB. What's happening,
Good Thursday morning to you.

Speaker 9 (39:40):
What's up, guys. I can actually see you. I know
it's been get that all worked out like where we
get actually patted it through, right, but we're working forwards.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
It doun like this is unfortunate though, Albert, Now we
don't get your your wife, you don't get your kids
as you you get into the van to head up
for a hockey tournament.

Speaker 9 (39:57):
Though that's right, not in the four on the on
the front porch, where like I'm at risk for like
the bluetooth is picking up in the tahoe yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
Yeah, the or the dog in the background, or any
of the other many things that have tried to interrupt
our interview with you.

Speaker 9 (40:10):
You have we have two dogs here now, so like
there's even more risk because it's just kind of puppy
and he's also an Aussie. Anybody who's had one of
those notes out loud, they are so uh yeah, Archie
might be making uh making a debut here. It's here
in the next few weeks.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
Why did you get Why did you get an Aussie?

Speaker 9 (40:30):
Because that's our first time get we we have an
Asti Alrea even getting another one because my wife likes
to breathe. It's easy answer and I'm not gonna win
this argument.

Speaker 4 (40:38):
Is he after Archie Griffin? Was that the compromise?

Speaker 9 (40:41):
That's right?

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Yeah, yeah, there you go.

Speaker 4 (40:43):
Figure figure that's what it was. How awesome, predictable.

Speaker 9 (40:48):
Everybody's gonna think it's after Archie Manning, or if we
start calling him arch to be after arch Manning. So anyway,
that's the real life. Yeah, I will say this though,
we went from like this wasn't on my radar two
weeks ago. So now we have a puppy living here,
So it shows you how much control I have over
my own house.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
Are you surprised Albert and obviously covering in covering the
team and being around the situation for as long as
you were up in the New England area. Are you
surprised to see Belichick pushback the way he did on
ESPN when Robert Kraft talked about the big risk he
took in hiring him.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (41:30):
The crazy thing about it is like the Craft said
this a million times, Like there's you could if you
google the keywords in there, I'm sure you could find
fifty times that Robert Craft has said this, and clearly
is something that that Bill's got a problem with. Like
wait a minute, Like you were the one that took
the risk, Like I came into a situation that was

(41:52):
Parston and had to rebuild it right, Like so clearly
he had a problem with it, and I I find it,
like I'm not sore guessing here or whatever, but I
find it hard to believe that Don van Natta was
listening to like the Dudes One Dudes podcasts and thought
to call Bill. So my guess is that Bill was
the one that prompted that conversation, which means that Bill

(42:13):
felt strongly enough to reach out to a reporter on it.
And Don Van Natta, of course, is the reporter who's
done some of the work on some of the discord
and the Patriots organization over the last twenty years, and
so picking that specific reporter to talk to I think
has context too. So you know, my main takeaway is

(42:34):
Bill's gonna a hair across ass about Robert and vice versa. Look,
is this becoming Jimmy Jerry Guys?

Speaker 4 (42:42):
It has those types types of characteristics.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
Oh that's a hot.

Speaker 9 (42:49):
Yeah, it's sort of problem like it doesn't it.

Speaker 4 (42:54):
Is?

Speaker 9 (42:54):
You accomplished so much together and you can't leave all
up alone, you know what I mean? Like, And it's
interesting too because the third figure all this is Tom Brady.
And you know what I think is really fascinating about
that If you look at how these things come about. Well,
Bill posts Tom, you know, makes the playoffs the one
and the team circle with the draining Robert pat post

(43:17):
Tom if with Bill for that, then hires girod Mao,
fires him after a year and has to fall in
the sort of thing he was wrong about a bunch
of things. And so now those two are going at it,
and you got Tom sitting back, and you know why
he doesn't have to say a thing is because he
went to Tampa, made the playoffs four years in a

(43:38):
row or three years in a row, and got a ring.
So you know, it's just interesting how kind of the
post scrip to the to the to the dynasty is
the one guy who had a ton of success right
after is the one who can just kind of sit
back and what the other two sights.

Speaker 3 (43:56):
So this is why we talked about it a little
bit earlier, and I said that I don't have a
problem with Robert Craft saying it took a risk to
hire Bill Belichick. But if someone asks you what's your
biggest risk, I don't know that Bill Belichick was at
the top of the list. He had close to a
five hundred record as far as being a witch prior
to that, he was already hired by another team. So
clearly they were okay with that five hundred record, as

(44:18):
was Robert Craft. And yes they had to give up
a first round pick, but it's it's not as if
Robert Craft was necessarily great before that point in time
as an owner in drafting first round pick. So it
leads me to say, in your mind, was was this
the biggest risk really Robert Craft took? I mean Jonas
brought up ages of orchid orchids or.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
As guys trying to blow some steam off for God's sake.

Speaker 4 (44:44):
Oh my gosh, I don't know.

Speaker 9 (44:48):
Let's move that one to the side for a minute.

Speaker 4 (44:51):
Oh my gosh, AB answer the question, ab any.

Speaker 5 (44:55):
Question aside, honest honestly say flip over my gosh.

Speaker 9 (45:02):
Don't give me in trouble here, Like I don't need to.
I don't need to be taking right now. Here's what
I like, Like I would say the bigger risks, like
I think the decision to do what he did with
Bill Parcells the very beginning, as much success as they
were having, like taking power away from Bill Parcells after

(45:26):
Bill Parcells had and I I mean I was a
kid then growing up in this region, and Bill Parcells
was like the messiah, like no one. That franchise was
a laughing stuck and Bill Parcells is the one who's
got it, who dragged it out of the ditch and
gave it credibility. So I think taking power away from

(45:47):
from Bill Parcells eventually driving them away was probably the
biggest risk that Robert kraft ever took at the time
when he hired Belichick. I mean, he's sort of in
this position where he's like, his reputation wasn't in a
great spot, so he didn't have as much to lose,
like when he did that with Parcels. He had a
lot of loose. When he made the decision to go

(46:09):
with Bill over Brady right in twenty twenty and the
year leading up to that, that was a massive risks.
He had ton to lose. So I tend to think,
like when you're assessing risks, a lot of like a
lot of what risk is is how much do you
have to lose? And I think in nineteen ninety six
and in two thy and twenty, Robert Krafty way more

(46:32):
to lose those decisions that he made versus you know
where he was in the year two thousands.

Speaker 4 (46:39):
Listen, we're having the conversation as it applies to Robert
Kraft and ultimately the comparisons or the back and forth
between him and Belichick. How much does this put a
almost a target on on Mike Rabel coming in. Mike
was a part of these teams as well. And maybe

(47:02):
that's something that maybe Robert Kraft isn't thinking about, is
by doing these these having these conversations, I mean, you're
putting seemingly a whole lot of pressure on Mike Rabel
to have to do something with this team where they're
at right now.

Speaker 9 (47:19):
Yeah, it's a weird spot to be in for sure.
Like I don't know, I mean, Mike would probably want
to stack me in the back of the head. I
feel like if you heard me say that, it's almost
like a kid with a divorced parents who are in court,
you know what I mean. It's just because I mean,
Mike was a player here, you know, and you can't
take that context out of it. So like he's one
of these guys like an Edelman who had that interview

(47:41):
with Kraft and like so many guys that went through
the place that you know, like you're you're gonna be
asked about it, you know what I mean, Like and
at some point, like it's going to come up, and
it's it's a topic that hovers over things. That said,
I think if anybody's equipped to deal with it and
has the right kind of approach towards these things, and

(48:03):
be Mike Brabel, because I just don't think I think
Brabel is as the type of guy who can say
I don't give a damn about that, that's not my
problem and get away with it. You know, Like there
are a lot of people who say that you wouldn't
believe him, Like I think Mike can make that believable.
So like, I think in one sense, there's the former

(48:24):
player Mike right like, who like so many of these guys,
it's like two people that were so central to what
was going on when you were having your greatest professional
success are fighting and it's weird to be asked questions
about those two people while they're fighting. So that's the
former player Mike. But I think Mike right now would
be more focused on being the coach and you know,

(48:45):
having that single focus saying like that's not our problem
to his team, Like that's something I think that he's
an equal position to sell.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
Albert Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. It's
two pros and a cup of Joe filling in for
Dan Patrick and the guys. Is there the potential we
see any sort of crazy blockbuster trade take place with
these guys looking for extensions and not able to get
them done, whether it be Hendrickson, McLaurin, TJ. Watt, et cetera.

Speaker 9 (49:12):
I just think it's too many in the case is
there's like too much mutual interest in getting something done.
Like with what the reason you the reason you acquire
Aaron Rodgers in the first place is to serve TJ. Watt, right, Like,
is to serve the core that you had in place.
And so like what you're doing getting Aaron Rodgers and
leaning into the guys that we're already there and saying, okay,

(49:34):
we only have one or two swings luff with this group,
with your TJ. Watts If you're Cam Hayward, so like,
how would it make sense to go out and get
Aaron Rodgers and get DK Metcalf and get Jalen Ramsey
and get Darius Play and then move off the best
player from the core that you're trying to serve and
if your TJ. Watt, is there a situation that you

(49:55):
can go to that would be better than the one
that you're already in or would you look at it
say this is what I've been waiting for since Ben
Roethlisberger retired, is having an answer Like visit the quarterback
position with McLaurin. It's like, I know Kerry values being
like a one team guy and being a guy who

(50:17):
wrote out Kagruden, Ron Rivera, the Saleo Team, the nickname change,
all that different stuff, and being kind of a belt
weather for the entire franchise. I know he really values that.
And for dan Quinn, like Harry represents everything they're looking for.
So I'd say like in most of these situations, you're
looking at it like there's too much usual interest in

(50:38):
getting something done and there's a lot of cage rattling
going on now, but when the deadlines come, you think
they're going to get something done. So Hendrickson thing is
the one that I look at, and it's a little
less predictable because that one's played out over multiple off seasons,
and that one there are just some moving parts as
to how you pay pass rushers, and then the structure

(50:59):
of deal. Does he do a deal like the structures
like the one Burrow and Chase it that he do
a deal and structured like the one that Higgins did.
There are a lot of moving parts that the Henderson
one and a lot of history there. They would say,
there's no way he's taking any sort of hometown discount,
and so where is the comper might come?

Speaker 3 (51:18):
That would be the question, Albert, I want to ask
you about these second round draft picks. Two have signed
fully guaranteed deals. There were thirty on signed. However, it
looks like Alfred Collins has decided with the forty nine
ers to sign a deal that is not fully guaranteed
only about eighty percent, give or take a couple of questions.

(51:38):
We don't have a ton of time left. Why now,
Why has either the NFLPA or the agents who have
been involved pushed for this to get these contracts fully guaranteed?
And I guess furthermore, when you're looking at the Alfred
Collins deal, I would assume you think the rest are
probably going to fall suit. There's not gonna be a
lot of guys getting fully guaranteed deals. Or is there

(52:00):
a mark in the draft where they're going, like, hey,
top fifty or you know those, all those guys will
be fully guaranteed. But then after that probably not.

Speaker 9 (52:08):
I don't think. I don't have an infirm of me.
I think Brady did, like he was, I think forty
third overall, is that right?

Speaker 2 (52:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (52:14):
Correct, yeah, forty three. Okay. So the way this happened,
so the Texans really wanted to get like a certain
structure with their contracts and were and wanted to get
it done early with Jayden Higgins. So they agreed to
do the fully guaranteed deal. And then Higgins Higgins agrees

(52:34):
to the Texans structure, and so they're able to get
that done early, taken care of, fully guaranteed. Then the
next day, the very next day, this is two months ago,
Carson Schwussinger, who was a thirty third pick, Higgins was
thirty four. He does the deal, so now he's got
a fully guaranteed deal. So you have the top two
guys having a fully guaranteed deal. The thirty fifth pick

(52:56):
is Nick Emon Worrie, the South Carolina staty who went
at Seattle and like he was widely projected by a
lot of people to be at least a fringe first
round pick. So he's got his head. Now he's people
having an his head. Well, we need to get a
fully guaranteed deal. So the thirty six pick is punched on Jenkins,
who obviously is going through the offfield stuff now. But

(53:18):
even before that, it was like, well, Nick, you just
gave Carson Schwassinger three picks before me a fully guaranteed deal,
so I need to get one. So now, if you're
looking at this and you think at thirty five to
thirty six, are pushing for it. If you're the agent
for the thirty seventh picks, the thirty eight picks, the
thirty nine picks, you're not going to do anything until
that gets done. Then you have the fortieth pick, which

(53:40):
is a quarterback. Right, the quarterbacks have always done deals
with a little bit differently. So the shuck in New
Orleans says he gets a fully guaranteed deal there at forty,
because if he doesn't fully guaranteed deal at forty and
you're thirty nine, thirty eight, thirty seven, it's going to
make you look sad as an agent as a player
if you don't get one. So this thing has been complicated,
and I think it's going to sort of hinge on

(54:03):
what happens with Eamon orri you know, then potentially what
happens with Juckins. We'll see what happens with the Arizona
Guards that when Jonas Sabaya who went thirty seventh overall,
Travan Henderson thirty eight. Like I it's just I think
it's going to have to almost have it would almost
have to be in order, like there have to be
a Domino's next, or the quarterback gets done earlier. It's

(54:24):
it's complicated. I do think collins deal can help with
players behind him, right, so after forty three, maybe that
helps move the needle on guys that were drafted behind
Alfred Collins, But as far as the guys that were
drafted in front of him, I still think you're kind
of at that salemate where you're waiting for either Seattle
and Emon Wori or New Orleans and Tyler Stock to

(54:46):
get something done.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
He is Albert Breer, Senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist
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Albert Breer ab we appreciate it. Good luck with the puppy,
and we'll talk next week, all right, Thank that.