June 21, 2025 • 41 mins
LaVar Arrington, TJ Houshmandzadeh, & Plaxico Burress talk Shedeur Sanders speeding incidents in recent time, recruiting culture in College Sports, Adrian Peterson getting into a fight at a poker tournament, and more!!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Three of the best to ever do it on and
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here's pro bowlers LaVar Airy, Test, TJ. Hushman, Zanna, and
Silver Bowled Chimpion Plaxico Burres.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
All right, Happy Saturday to everyone out there. I hope
you're enjoying yourselves. I hope you have some really really
good weather, some fine weather going on for you. Just
hope it all is good for you. And you know what,
We're gonna try to give you a really good show.
We got t J. Hushman's out of here, we got
Plucks Cookee Bird's hair. Hell, I'm here, so we're gonna
(01:07):
talk some sports. The door. We're gonna talk to your door.
Adrian Peterson. We're gonna talk to Adrian Peters and he
was paying poker turns into him trying to poke a
jaz here and there. You know, I don't know. We'll
see how that all goes. But yeah, uh, I got
a topic I want to broach with the fellas. But
(01:27):
first before I touch on that, there said topic, how
you guys doing, man, how's everybody feeling today? Man?
Speaker 4 (01:34):
I'm feeling good, you know, slight overcast. I would have
guessed in the hour was about to get real clear.
And Sonny feeling good man, can't complain at all?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Good man.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Man, It's crazy how you can always sense how what
the weather is like in TJ's demeanor when he comes.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Yeah, that's it's very true.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Man. He's a he's a he's a true Californian.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah, that's what sensy brouh like. You do. Love some
California bad.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Man, y'all know. Well, obviously I don't go out much.
So it was literally the house to the facility, facility
to the house, and so I mean I was in
flip flops and shorts leaving the house because I knew
I wasn't gonna be outside long.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah, yeah, all right, let's speaking of playing days. I
know you got one that that will potentially get get
get recruited at some point here in the few years
TJ Plex. You have one that is at Notre Dame,
and you guys went through the recruiting process. I wanted
(02:44):
to talk about this because I've just been watching how
the recruiting wars are going on, the official visits time
of the year and stuff like that. What I'd like
to know y'all's take on now that the NCAA versus
the House had that judgment and basically there's going to
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be you know, being paid, you know, in a certain
type of way. It has to be justifiable the way
that the kids are being paid. It is still not
paid for play that Let's make sure that's clear. It
is still not pay for play in college. But you
have you have basically a climate where it is very
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it's a very very slippery slope, is what I would say.
Because you're looking at guys who are you know, families
who are getting agents. They have representation going into the
conversations of just going to a school, whether you're going
through the portal or whether you're getting recruited out of
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high school. You being a parent that went through it,
plex TJ. I know you're connected to a lot of
young athletes that are getting recruited and it's something you
have to think about for the future. How do you
guys see this, Like, do you think this is a
you know, is this a big deal? Is it not
(04:18):
a big deal? It just seems as though if it's
not paid for play, why do you need representation, you know,
while you're still in high school, you know, or even
while you're still in college. Like, how how are you
guys seeing this evolving landscape?
Speaker 4 (04:32):
I don't I don't like it. It's a way to
cap what the players are making, but they don't want
to cap what the coaches are making. And the coaches
and the NCAA are the ones who wanted this because
they felt it was getting out of control. Well, what
about the coaching salaries that they're not getting out of control.
It's not coaches making hundreds of millions of dollars over
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a course of a career on the backs of these
kids we didn't get taken advantage of when we played
in the late nineties. The coaches, like, what are they doing?
They're trying to cap and put a restriction on what
players can make. Now, do they need representation out of
high school? Yes, and no, because when you're represented by
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somebody that really knows what they're doing coming out of
high school, that may be the difference of two, three,
four hundred thousand dollars. That's a lot of money. And
so if the school offers you you're really top a crew,
you're four borderline fire star recruit, they offer you, let's
say six hundred thousand to a million, that representation may
get you one point two, one point three, maybe one
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point four. And so yeah, it's worth it because they
know they have other clients. They know what their other
clients have received, so they know what you should receive
based on where you're ranked. When you're going in and blind,
you have no idea what somebody else has received. And
so I believe it is a good thing, but trying
to cap it is what I don't like. I believe
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is unfair. And they want to cap it now because
they see how much money these kids are making there, Like, oh,
imagine how much levard Arrington and the plexical Buris would
have made. Imagine how much money they owe y'all and reparations. Imagine, Yeah, man,
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you know, I'm just sitting back.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
You know, obviously, you know, I went through the recruiting
process myself along with you guys coming out of high
school and you know, being highly touted. I was the
number one while receiving the country. So I basically had,
you know, all the offers from every major college in
the country. And to you know, to sit here, what
almost thirty years later and to be a witness of
(06:46):
you know, recruiting process, right the recruiting process, of what
my son went through and what they are going through
now of just this whole NIL space is it's just
just something that we thought that we would never see.
And you know, now everybody that that you can imagine
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is getting in contact with me hoping that you know,
they can maybe sign my son to an NIL deal
or whatever the case may be, and thedeal or representation
I'm sorry, I'm sorry representation. So now there's all of
these gang of people are getting together to create this
company to see who's the best NIL representation, uh, you know,
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group moving forward, which we obviously we didn't have. But
I'm just looking at situations like, you know, Quinny, you
will skip this senior season in high school, to go
to Texas. I mean, not to go to Texas, but
to go to HOIW State. He skipped the senior.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Year in high school for nil money.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
I mean, those things are fathomable when you think about
where we came from and where it is today. And
in the quarterback from South Carolina, he just recently turned
down eight milliion dollars to transfer to go be another
starting quarterback at a at another at another university. And
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I don't necessarily agree with this, but his dad says,
you're you're eight you're eighteen years old. You don't need
eight million dollars in nil money. And there's just so
many things going on with it, you know. Obviously we
are becoming more knowledgeable about it ourselves as.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
We see our kids go through this process.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
And I'm just going to try to try to educate
myself the best that I can to hopefully, you know,
to try to give my son the best advice moving
forward forward. When it comes to this representation in this
whole nil space.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
It is a constant evolution of it going on right now.
It's very very fluid, so to speak. And I just
I think it's it's interesting. I heard somewhere and maybe
it was in conversation. Uh, maybe it was something I
(09:05):
saw on online or something to that effect. But just
the idea of how good quality kids and and take
this for I guess for what it's worth you Now,
a good quality kid who wants to go to a
certain school may not be able to go to the
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school they want to go to because of the influence
of their parents based upon the amount of money that
the kid can generate and that being able to go
back into a family unit. If that, if that starts
to become a real thing, or is a real thing
(09:47):
that exists? How how I mean, what is the advice
to parents out here? Because you and I, you know
all of us, we know that a lot of cases
parents are living their dreams through their kids. Parents are
some of them are investing the time driving them to sports,
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getting them the food, getting them nice clothes because they
believe in the end, if the kid turns out to
be something, they're going to get that that ROI back,
Is that is that wrong for a parent to think
that way? Yes? Yes, what y'all take?
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Yes? Is it wrong?
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Man?
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Listen? Man, I spent so much money on my daughters
when they play softball and I'm spending so much money
now with my son playing basketball. Bro I could give.
I could care less about an ROI.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
But what if they told you is because you played
in the league and you've made a ton of money,
you've done well for yourself. What about that family that
you were living in or te plexico or I.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Don't think you know. Any parent should do for their
child and expect a We do for our children because
it's something that they enjoy. It is something that they like,
and you want to. Kids do not ask to be
born into this world. We don't get to choose our parents.
Our parents are who they are, and so we bring
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them into the world. It's our responsibility to mold, to
develop them, to teach them right from wrong, and when
they play sports, whatever costs that come with it, it
comes with it. Because the majority of kids that play
don't make it. You think the parents, I would hope
the parents don't. Oh yeah, everybody thinks their kid is
gonna make it. There's a very very small percentage of
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kids that actually make it. And so for a parent
to think, like, my child is my investment, I believe
that's wrong. Let them enjoy the journey and wherever that
journey takes them. It is what it is. But to think, oh, yeah, yeah,
my baby boy or my baby girl gonna be making
his money in years. No, I would never look at
it like that. I don't understand parents that do look
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at it that way.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Hey. You even him a few years ago, back in
twenty eighteen, the four start, the four star wide receiver,
Jacob Copeland, and he was having a press conference on
national television yester year and he chose Florida over Alabama
and his mom got off the chair and walked walked
off the stage on national television. Those are the things,
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that's what you're talking about. And I've honestly had people
come up to me and say to me, why would
you let your son go to know the Dame? And
it kind of just floored you for a minute, based
off of what plex based off of yet based off
of me going to Michigan State and him not following
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my footsteps. And I say that, I said, I say, well,
what's wrong with no to Dame? Well, why wouldn't you
make him go to Michigan State. I'm not going to
make my son do anything. I mean, it's not about me.
This is his canvas. That he's sitting in front of
with his painting brush so he can paint his own picture.
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It has nothing to do with me, and that's what
we're talking about. And we've seen it at every level,
from the little league level, from pee wee to junior
high to high school to college. And if your kids
are fortunate enough to make it to the professional level,
then that's a blessing in itself. But just like you said,
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we've seen on every level everybody thinks their kid is
a professional athlete. And that is such a wrong way
to raise a kid, male or female. To sit here
and say that your kid is better than everybody else
and you think that you know your kid is a
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professional athlete, and these kids are sick. In the sixth,
seventh and eighth grade, when my son went through the
recruiting process, I just stepped back because, like I said,
it's not about me.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
All I'm gonna do.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
If you ask me questions, I'm gonna give you my
best advice, and you make your decision based off of
how you feel where you see yourself at and.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Take whatever I.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Say and put it all together and make a decision
based off of yourself.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
It has nothing to do with me.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
So I think that's you know, that's what we're talking
about with this whole recruiting thing. And I couldn't be
more happier for, you know, my young man to you know,
to make his own decision and to go where he
wanted to go and it had abs nothing to do
with me. He did what he wanted to do, and
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I couldn't be more happier.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
I love that. I just in my mind I try
to figure out, does it in any scenario? Are we
wrong for thinking that there is no scenario that exists
where if a kid does turn out to be that
type of a talent, are like, is it wrong for
is there?
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Is there?
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Is there a world? Is there a place of logic
that exists where a parent should be able to benefit
from their kid? That's what I've been because for me,
I don't it's not even a question to me, you know,
And like you guys have said, I I fall much
in line with what you guys have said. And you know,
my son did following my footsteps. He does have my name.
(15:25):
I didn't even want to name him after me. My
my wife did that. I didn't, you know, I'd love
for him to have carried on the tradition. I mean
he chose to be a linebacker. The kid was talented
enough to play other other positions, you know, he chose,
he chose to model his his game and play play linebacker.
(15:46):
He chose to go to Penn State. Much like what
you said, plex, I didn't. I didn't even really go
on the visits with him. Their mother manages them, you know,
and that's that's she handles all those things. Because I
don't want it to turn into their recruiting men versus
recruiting him. They're they're trying to give him an experience,
not give me an experience. I've been there, right, So
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I just always kind of I don't want to be
naive or ignorant to Is there a scenario where it
does matter? Is it a health thing?
Speaker 4 (16:19):
You know?
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Your mom is sick, you know, and this is a
way for you to be able to support your mom,
like and she expects it. Like I put it on
the line, I put my health. I put these things
on on hold to make sure that I can help
you get to where you're supposed to be. Do I
just die now? You made it, You're not here anymore?
Do I? I don't know, I just wonder, is there
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a scenario where it makes sense that you get an
ROI on your child? And the crazy thing is, as
much as it doesn't seem to have very much sense
at all or any any real logic to it, this
is how these agents and money managers and wealth planners.
This is one hundred percent how they are getting too families.
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This is one hundred percent how they are being attractive
to families. And I'm not so sure that go figure.
I'm not so sure that that isn't how these universities
are getting these kids as well. I don't know. It's
a big conversation. It's going to continue to carry on,
just like this show up on Game is going to
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continue to carry on. Up next, we're going to talk
to your doors Sanders. Two speeding tickets in a month's time.
Is it a deal or no deal? Can't wait to
hear what the guys have to say about that. You're
listening to up on Game. This is Fox Sports Radio.
It's TJ. Hitchman's out of It's Plexico Burst. I'm LeVar Arrington.
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(20:10):
got the deal done, fellas. We'll touch on that. We'll
get to that, but first let's get to this Shador
Sanders deal. He has been clearly a magnet for media attention.
It has continued on. Most of it has been very positive.
Most of it has been connected to what he's doing
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in the practices that he's been a part of. But
the latest news to hit the wire has been him
getting a speeding ticket and then it coming out that
he's gotten a second speeding ticket in much of a
month's time. There have been a lot of conversations that
(20:55):
have ensued since that took place, and I wanted to
get your guys as a opinion on it. I know
I had mine during the week. I said, you know
what I said, but I don't want to I don't
want to put it out there until I hear what
you guys have to say. I'm curious as to how
should it be handled, how you think it should be handled.
Is it fear unfair the way that the coverage is
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on him, or is it just you know? Is it
is it? Is it? Is it? You know? Is this
a shador thing in this moment? How you guys see it?
Speaker 4 (21:27):
LeVar? It's a speed ticket, bro Like, really, it's a
speeding ticket. That's what young man. Young people, you you
drive fast, sometimes you get a ticket, sometimes you don't.
Is it a big deal? Absolutely not. The majority of
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people in life have received a speeding ticket. Now two
in the last month. You say, Okay, he's gonna learn
from this, and that's what it is. These are lessons
you learn as you start to get older. Okay, let
me show that. Oh wow, it hit the news. Wow,
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it really is a microscope on me. Just getting the
speeding ticket. It's not a big it's not a DUI.
I got pulled over about about a month ago. I
was like, wow, I'm not even speeding. As soon as
I rolled down my window, I said, what did I do? Oh?
You got ten and windows? I said, you on one
of them days. Huh, I said, there's one hundred cars
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on this freeway. You're gonna pull me over?
Speaker 1 (22:34):
All right?
Speaker 4 (22:34):
I got you literally gave me a fixed ticket, ten
and windows, and then got mad at me. I didn't
have a front license plate, and then he didn't make
it correctable. I try to go pay my ticket, I
can't pay it because of the officer of the way
he did the ticket. So he inconvenienced me in a
major way. And I just had ten windows. Everybody out
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here has ten windows as far as you know. Hit
So maybe the officer's having a bad day, he argued
with his wife. I don't know what it was, but
he took it out on me with Shador, is he
gonna have to slow down absolutely because you don't want
to endanger yourself or others. But they're speeding tickets, man,
he speeding tickets. I don't like it because if that
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was my son, I'm like, boy, please slow down. Please.
But we've all if driven extremely fast at times in
our life, especially when we're younger, and we got that
car as fast, always fast. I'm gonna see what it do.
I know when I got one of my cars that
was really fast, nobody was on the freeway. I promise
you I punched it like one twenty just to see
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how it felt. Did I do it often? No? But
did I do it? Yes?
Speaker 3 (23:46):
I did, of course. I mean I kind of feel
the same way. But I don't agree with Shador saying that.
You know, you know, you teach that. You're saying that,
oh it hit the news. Everything is news with this guy,
I mean, and he better know that. I hope he
knows he knew that. He knew that then when high school.
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Trust me, he knew he knew. He knew better than that.
I mean, look at who his that is. We all know,
you know, uh, that whole part of the story. But listen,
you don't get these Lamborghinias in ferraris or whatever whatever
they are to dry the speed limit, so that that's
just how it goes. But I just think that the
two in a week or whatever in the last couple
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of weeks, that's a little bit excessive. I really don't
see it as a big deal. But it's kind of
one of those things, as you know, it's kind of
one of those I told you so you know, you know,
he's irresponsible, he doesn't care, and all those kinds of things.
But it's just something that I think of the past,
you know what, talking about speeding. This this is what
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I want to ask y'all. Zach Edy was got caught
speeding in a Kia at one hundred and one miles
an hour. I called my buddy who owns dealerships. I said, man,
first of all, everybody's asked. Everybody's asking the wrong question.
The kids go one hundred and one miles an hour,
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and how in the hell does Zach Edy fit in
a kill sorrento? And he's seven foot four, Hey man,
y'all asking y'all asking the wrong question. He got that
custom kid, bro he's got the custom kill.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
He got that drag r.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
He like Bubba Smith in the police academy, taking out
the front seat, sitting in the bank seat. But he's
driving in a in a in a kid sorrento at
seven foot four. Oh man, that is really something else.
But this whole sha door thing, man, I just think
you know, you know, they just want to you know, uh,
you know, paint the picture with a young man, you know,
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you know, being irresponsible and with everything, you know, with
the draft concern. But just like TJ said, manb your
kids are going to make some mistakes, you know, just
you know, thank god nobody got hurt because we have
seen some of these some of these instances, you know,
you know, it come become fatal, somebody gets hurt or
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whatever the case may be. But I believe he'll learn
from it and move on.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
I said, he who does not speed cast the first
stone at your door. That was my first take on it.
My second take was, if he's speeding, he's speeding. I'll
say this, I'm not trying to create any justification. It's
one thing to speed and you're speeding on purpose. It's
another thing to understand that these new cars. It doesn't
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even feel driving forty to fifty miles per hour feels
like one hundred miles per hour and a new escalate.
And I'm not even joking the effort you got to
put into in a car that may not have the
horse power that another car has to get to that
fifty sixty, you know, even seventy mile per hour these
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new cars out here, it doesn't. You barely are touching
the you're barely touching it the gas and you're going,
or the pedal and you're going, you know, upwards of
eighty five, you know, miles per hour. It's it's not
hard to speed. That was that was what I was thinking.
And then I thought to myself, you know, if the
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kid wasn't intoxicated, if he wasn't you know, under the
influence in any type of way, if there was no
foul play connected to you know, him being over the
speed limit, then it is just for real, for real,
a learning situation for him. Then I started asking myself,
what is the con of it? Like, you got to
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find the cons of these situations and try to understand
understand it from that angle. How does that How could
that hurt you know, hurt him in this situation. You
guys mentioned all he's they're responsible data, That could be
the narrative. You know, what I thought about, Fellas is
what if it's a normal free agent signing. What if
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it's a normal you know, late round draft pick that
got two tickets, two speeding tickets in less than a month,
and and that was news that was reported to the organization,
how would they handle it? Is there any chance that
that kid would get let go based upon two run
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ins with the law of you know, speeding. Now, while
I don't know how these you know, organizations, these coaches
or whatever handle those type of situations, I have no idea,
but I wondered if that would be the only thing
in terms of all right now, what happens is is
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while you say, okay, learn from it, move on from it,
kids do this data due that was irresponsible? Blase blah.
But what does that do? Does that have any type
of impact on saying that, Okay, this is touching the
culture of the locker room, or this kid is getting
preferential treatment because he's you know, Shador Sanders. You know,
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you kind of put yourself at risk for those types
of judgments when you find yourself in these types of situations.
That was kind of the conclusion that I had drawn.
Maybe that was the only con that I could come
up with. I mean, maybe there's more outside of obviously
you could injure somebody in yourself, you know, being being driving,
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you know, as fast as you're driving out one hundred
miles per hour. But I mean, again, I drive in California,
You drive in California, TJ. When when when it's not
bumper to bumper parking lot traffic, If you're able to drive,
everybody drives. There's very there's less people that out here
that don't drive hard than people that do drive hard.
(30:01):
So if the speed limit is is sixty in an area,
but people are pushing and they're doing seventy five eighty,
everybody's really out there keeping pace with everybody. If you're
able to move that fast, you're moving that fast as
a fact, you know what I mean, Like sure, if
you're able to move that fast on the highway, you're
moving that fast because it's.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
On the early morning, early morning or late at night.
Late at night can be the same thing. That's the
only time you're really speeding out here.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
And that's seriously, like a norm. The out of the
ordinary is the few that you see, because there are
cars out here. The few that you see they doing
they they are they are grant preing it out there.
I have seen two three cars at a time. Maybe
they caught up on racing. Maybe somebody like I want
(30:53):
to see if my car can keep up with their car.
Whatever it may be, you'll see that out here pretty
much at the times I'm driving into work or like
you said later in the evening. But I don't know,
it seemed like it was a crazy to me. It's
a bit of a reach to try to make this
into a reason that Shador Sanders should be considered to
(31:14):
be maybe an issue to the team. I don't know,
But let's talk about this issue after the update. Shamar
Stewart still not done with the contract. Let's do that
after we get this update from our guy, Isaac Lowingron.
What you got, buddy, Yeah, I know exactly what you mean, Lebar.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
I once got caught doing forty three in my two
thousand Toyota Corolla. It was just a huge scandal at
the time. No huge scandals in Major League Baseball. One
game going on right now. The Tampa Bay Rays with
a four to nothing lead over the Detroit Tigers after one.
We had a trade today in the National Hockey League,
the Chicago Blackhawks acquiring forward Andre Borakowski from the Seattle
(31:53):
Kraken for forward Joe Vileno. The back to back Stanley
Cup champion Florida Panthers are holding their exit interviews today
advance of tomorrow's Stanley Cup parade. The Panthers have continued
to live up to their reputation as championship level partiers,
and captain Alexander Barkov said today that the dents that
the Stanley Cup has received during this week's celebrations are
(32:15):
no big deal and that the keepers of the Cup
have seen worse. Meanwhile, Ford Matthew Kachuk saying a short
time ago quote, we were the best team on the ice,
and I guarantee you we are the best team off
the ice too. The party is not stopping anytime soon,
and defenseman Aaron Ecklad added, we just won two Stanley
(32:36):
Cups in a row. We're not toning it down. And finally, guys.
Also trending right now in the NFL, a new social
media video showing sixty two year old Baltimore Ravens head
coach John Harbaugh in the weight room squatting four hundred
and five pounds. Your move, Jim back to you guys.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Here you go, strong coach there.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Huh. My whole back explode if I try that. Man.
I saw that video. I was like, Wow, hardball playing
at sixty two. Man. That's if I try to do
any squad, my whole back is done.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Hey, man, I gotta stay strong out here. Man, gravity
it takes us all over. Hey, listen, we're gonna talk
tomor Stewart still no contract, still trying to figure that out.
And we're gonna touch on Adrian Peterson at a poker tournament. Uh.
It's pretty interesting. I'm curious to hear what you guys
have to say about it. This is up on Games,
T J. Huschman's Outees, Plexico Burgs. I'm LeVar Arrington. We're
(33:40):
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Speaker 1 (33:57):
Alright, alright, alright, welcome back into the show. Is up
on game. Ste J Huchman's eyes plecs to go burst.
I'm LeVar Arrington. Before we get to the end of
the hour, let's touch on these topics. We got cuffs,
the legend coming on. We'll talk NBA the next hour.
That should be fun.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Fellas Adrian Peterson, he got into a little disagreement at
a poker tournament, turns out turns into a physical Uh
a physical deal. Does this hurt his chances to his
views as as a Hall of Famer when you're doing
those things? Is this something to be concerned about or
(34:36):
is it just a is an isolated incident?
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Man? Listen, man, you have a little confrontation. Man, it's
part of life? What is it? Part of life? Is
Ap man needed to get the hands right?
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Bro? He cannot fight? Bro? No, he is not a scuffer.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Bro Like he falls over like bro Le'Veon bell slapping
and then But I mean, I've seen a little poker fight.
I thought Ap was gonna.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
I thought he was him.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
I thought he was gonna parking. And when I watched it,
I said, oh no, yeah, Ap need to really get
in the gym with somebody man and know how to
throw them things. But I'm non potent now, man, I
appreciate that. I couldn't believe. I couldn't believe what I
was seeing.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
I'm like, brod, at least get your money's worth.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
And dudes, really they they they I don't know, man,
they I don't know. They can't fight. At least I
know one thing Adrian Peterson can do. He big and strong.
Pick him up and slamm him. Do something.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
I just the first thing that jumped off the page
to me. I was like, well, I think the first
first thing I noticed. I said, well, you know what,
his fighting game. Don't take out his running game. There
has to be a similarity somewhere along the line as
violent as this young man ran the football, running over
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top people's stiff arming, breaking tackles. You mean to tell
me you bobbing and weaving a Jeff we guy at
five eight five. No, man, he's supposed to run up
in his mouth piece, quick boss. I don't even know what.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
He was doing. I don't think he ever been in
a fight.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
I was like, come on, get up on him, scoop them,
slamming dunk on the back of his head.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
Do something because you stand there looking crazy.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Okay, So no, deal. He can't fight now. Maybe if
he knocks the dude out and it looks horrible, maybe
it's egregious, it looks egregious, it could hurt him. But
this one right here, this is no news. Okay, all right,
let's move on to schamar Let's let's knock out the
Shamar's store. They continue to say hold out. I always
say I hate when they say holdouts with rookies because
(36:53):
they do not have a contract. I believe the legal
term of or the real term of holding out is
when you have a contract and you don't report in
to work, that's a holdout. What he's doing is negotiating.
This is negotiating. He's not yet an official employee of
your Cincinnati Bengals. I'm gonna let you have a TJ.
(37:15):
Where are we at with this? Why is it dragging out?
Why would any other rookie do this deal where the
guarantees can be canceled out? What's your perspective on it?
Speaker 4 (37:27):
It's unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Man.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
We had these same problems last year, lost some games
we shouldn't have lost early on and missed the playoffs
because of that. And it's the same thing this year.
Last year, it was the receivers. This year it's the
defensive ends, and so I don't know what to make
of it. Man, It's unfortunate because we assume when the
(37:52):
new CBA, everybody slotted, it should be easy, God should
be signed right away. Now it's the language you want
to put in contracts, and I see what organizations coming from,
But I really see where he's coming from. If last
year's pick didn't have to sign it, why should I?
Speaker 1 (38:07):
And nobody else is doing it.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
As nobody else in the first round is having that
language put in that contract, then why should I? And
so at some point in time does it become who
he's represented by, is his representation respected or do they
feel like they can bully him? I mean, because at
some point you're gonna have to play football, and at
(38:29):
some point, if your representation isn't respected, you got to
go get representation that is respected.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
M that's interesting what you think, plax.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
I just I don't understand it. I know the young
man wants his money and he's holding out, and he
doesn't wander to be the catalyst of something that has
happened to him that that that didn't happen to the
guys before and uh, just like TJ said, did they
gotta find a way to get it together? The Cincinnati
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Bengals is I just have just always been that organization,
except as of late between Joe Burrow and T Higgins
and Jamal Chase as far as giving those guys contracts.
Trey Henderson still on the outside looking at them. Led
the league in Sex last year. I don't know what
the situation is with.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
That now, that's a hold out, that's a whole out. Yeah,
and does he get his deal done? Do they get
his deal?
Speaker 4 (39:25):
He deserves it. He had the league in Sex last year?
What are you giving? What are you giving Trey Henderson?
So Miles heart is at forty million, you're giving him
forty million?
Speaker 1 (39:35):
No, but why not? I'm not giving them the same age.
Speaker 4 (39:39):
I'm not giving him forty He's more productive.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
T J.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
Watt t J Watt once wants the same type of
money right now. And Hendrickson and probably Michael Parsons, Michael
Parker youngest has earned the youngest and has earned it.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
Trey hasn't earned it.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Yeah, he's earned it.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
I'm I'm not giving I'm not giving Trey Hendrickson forty
million a year. Because when you say named the best
pass rushers, this is just me name the best pass rushers.
I think of Myles Garrett, I think of TJ Why,
I think of Michael Parsons, I think of Matt Crosby.
Those are the guys that I think I think of.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Boston has been one of the butts pass rushers, premium
pass rushers.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
Two three years he has. He had four sax against
the Raiders, and so I say that to say when
we when we play the Ravens, we need those sacks.
We need those four saxsing against Raight.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
When y'all play, y'all need Trey Hendrickson Bros.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
I'm just yet he is. I'm not discrediting him. I'm
saying I'm not giving him forty million. And when you
say you're not giving a player forty millions as if
you're discribling. Oh, I'm not discribing him. He's a baller,
but I'm not giving him forty million.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
But that's just my standard. That's the standard of the
position as an elite pass rusher now, and that's because
of Miles Garrett.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
But I don't believe he's in the same class as
mink Xared. That's me, y'all either.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Steward, do you think it's a possibility that he can
reinto the of the NFL Draft.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
It's a possibility. I wouldn't advise it. That's a long
time without playing football. I would not advise it. They
gonna get something done. But again, y'all know this. If
a team feels like they can bully your representation, they
gonna bully them. You gotta get somebody that they know
they can't bully. If it continues to persist this.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Way, I'm the same age. I believe the same draft
as TJ. Watt. TJ Watt, I don't know if he's
gonna get it from Pittsburgh. I want to ask you that,
but plex but we don't have the time. Somebody going
somebody's gonna lose out here, and I don't know who
it is, or they're all gonna eat. I don't know, man.
We'll have to wait and see how that all plays out.
We'll circle back on that topic as it plays out.
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Speaker 1 (00:47):
All right, Happy Saturday to everyone out there. I hope
you're enjoying yourselves. I hope you have some really really
good weather, some fine weather going on for you. Just
hope it all is good for you. And you know what,
We're gonna try to give you a really good show.
We got t J. Hushman's out of here, we got
Plucks Cookee Bird's hair. Hell, I'm here, so we're gonna
(01:07):
talk some sports. The door. We're gonna talk to your door.
Adrian Peterson. We're gonna talk to Adrian Peters and he
was paying poker turns into him trying to poke a
jaz here and there. You know, I don't know. We'll
see how that all goes. But yeah, uh, I got
a topic I want to broach with the fellas. But
(01:27):
first before I touch on that, there said topic, how
you guys doing, man, how's everybody feeling today? Man?
Speaker 4 (01:34):
I'm feeling good, you know, slight overcast. I would have
guessed in the hour was about to get real clear.
And Sonny feeling good man, can't complain at all?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Good man.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Man, It's crazy how you can always sense how what
the weather is like in TJ's demeanor when he comes.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Yeah, that's it's very true.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Man. He's a he's a he's a true Californian.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah, that's what sensy brouh like. You do. Love some
California bad.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Man, y'all know. Well, obviously I don't go out much.
So it was literally the house to the facility, facility
to the house, and so I mean I was in
flip flops and shorts leaving the house because I knew
I wasn't gonna be outside long.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah, yeah, all right, let's speaking of playing days. I
know you got one that that will potentially get get
get recruited at some point here in the few years
TJ Plex. You have one that is at Notre Dame,
and you guys went through the recruiting process. I wanted
(02:44):
to talk about this because I've just been watching how
the recruiting wars are going on, the official visits time
of the year and stuff like that. What I'd like
to know y'all's take on now that the NCAA versus
the House had that judgment and basically there's going to
(03:06):
be you know, being paid, you know, in a certain
type of way. It has to be justifiable the way
that the kids are being paid. It is still not
paid for play that Let's make sure that's clear. It
is still not pay for play in college. But you
have you have basically a climate where it is very
(03:35):
it's a very very slippery slope, is what I would say.
Because you're looking at guys who are you know, families
who are getting agents. They have representation going into the
conversations of just going to a school, whether you're going
through the portal or whether you're getting recruited out of
(03:56):
high school. You being a parent that went through it,
plex TJ. I know you're connected to a lot of
young athletes that are getting recruited and it's something you
have to think about for the future. How do you
guys see this, Like, do you think this is a
you know, is this a big deal? Is it not
(04:18):
a big deal? It just seems as though if it's
not paid for play, why do you need representation, you know,
while you're still in high school, you know, or even
while you're still in college. Like, how how are you
guys seeing this evolving landscape?
Speaker 4 (04:32):
I don't I don't like it. It's a way to
cap what the players are making, but they don't want
to cap what the coaches are making. And the coaches
and the NCAA are the ones who wanted this because
they felt it was getting out of control. Well, what
about the coaching salaries that they're not getting out of control.
It's not coaches making hundreds of millions of dollars over
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a course of a career on the backs of these
kids we didn't get taken advantage of when we played
in the late nineties. The coaches, like, what are they doing?
They're trying to cap and put a restriction on what
players can make. Now, do they need representation out of
high school? Yes, and no, because when you're represented by
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somebody that really knows what they're doing coming out of
high school, that may be the difference of two, three,
four hundred thousand dollars. That's a lot of money. And
so if the school offers you you're really top a crew,
you're four borderline fire star recruit, they offer you, let's
say six hundred thousand to a million, that representation may
get you one point two, one point three, maybe one
(05:37):
point four. And so yeah, it's worth it because they
know they have other clients. They know what their other
clients have received, so they know what you should receive
based on where you're ranked. When you're going in and blind,
you have no idea what somebody else has received. And
so I believe it is a good thing, but trying
to cap it is what I don't like. I believe
(05:59):
is unfair. And they want to cap it now because
they see how much money these kids are making there, Like, oh,
imagine how much levard Arrington and the plexical Buris would
have made. Imagine how much money they owe y'all and reparations. Imagine, Yeah, man,
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you know, I'm just sitting back.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
You know, obviously, you know, I went through the recruiting
process myself along with you guys coming out of high
school and you know, being highly touted. I was the
number one while receiving the country. So I basically had,
you know, all the offers from every major college in
the country. And to you know, to sit here, what
almost thirty years later and to be a witness of
(06:46):
you know, recruiting process, right the recruiting process, of what
my son went through and what they are going through
now of just this whole NIL space is it's just
just something that we thought that we would never see.
And you know, now everybody that that you can imagine
(07:07):
is getting in contact with me hoping that you know,
they can maybe sign my son to an NIL deal
or whatever the case may be, and thedeal or representation
I'm sorry, I'm sorry representation. So now there's all of
these gang of people are getting together to create this
company to see who's the best NIL representation, uh, you know,
(07:28):
group moving forward, which we obviously we didn't have. But
I'm just looking at situations like, you know, Quinny, you
will skip this senior season in high school, to go
to Texas. I mean, not to go to Texas, but
to go to HOIW State. He skipped the senior.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Year in high school for nil money.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
I mean, those things are fathomable when you think about
where we came from and where it is today. And
in the quarterback from South Carolina, he just recently turned
down eight milliion dollars to transfer to go be another
starting quarterback at a at another at another university. And
(08:06):
I don't necessarily agree with this, but his dad says,
you're you're eight you're eighteen years old. You don't need
eight million dollars in nil money. And there's just so
many things going on with it, you know. Obviously we
are becoming more knowledgeable about it ourselves as.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
We see our kids go through this process.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
And I'm just going to try to try to educate
myself the best that I can to hopefully, you know,
to try to give my son the best advice moving
forward forward. When it comes to this representation in this
whole nil space.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
It is a constant evolution of it going on right now.
It's very very fluid, so to speak. And I just
I think it's it's interesting. I heard somewhere and maybe
it was in conversation. Uh, maybe it was something I
(09:05):
saw on online or something to that effect. But just
the idea of how good quality kids and and take
this for I guess for what it's worth you Now,
a good quality kid who wants to go to a
certain school may not be able to go to the
(09:25):
school they want to go to because of the influence
of their parents based upon the amount of money that
the kid can generate and that being able to go
back into a family unit. If that, if that starts
to become a real thing, or is a real thing
(09:47):
that exists? How how I mean, what is the advice
to parents out here? Because you and I, you know
all of us, we know that a lot of cases
parents are living their dreams through their kids. Parents are
some of them are investing the time driving them to sports,
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getting them the food, getting them nice clothes because they
believe in the end, if the kid turns out to
be something, they're going to get that that ROI back,
Is that is that wrong for a parent to think
that way? Yes? Yes, what y'all take?
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Yes? Is it wrong?
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Man?
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Listen? Man, I spent so much money on my daughters
when they play softball and I'm spending so much money
now with my son playing basketball. Bro I could give.
I could care less about an ROI.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
But what if they told you is because you played
in the league and you've made a ton of money,
you've done well for yourself. What about that family that
you were living in or te plexico or I.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Don't think you know. Any parent should do for their
child and expect a We do for our children because
it's something that they enjoy. It is something that they like,
and you want to. Kids do not ask to be
born into this world. We don't get to choose our parents.
Our parents are who they are, and so we bring
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them into the world. It's our responsibility to mold, to
develop them, to teach them right from wrong, and when
they play sports, whatever costs that come with it, it
comes with it. Because the majority of kids that play
don't make it. You think the parents, I would hope
the parents don't. Oh yeah, everybody thinks their kid is
gonna make it. There's a very very small percentage of
(11:39):
kids that actually make it. And so for a parent
to think, like, my child is my investment, I believe
that's wrong. Let them enjoy the journey and wherever that
journey takes them. It is what it is. But to think, oh, yeah, yeah,
my baby boy or my baby girl gonna be making
his money in years. No, I would never look at
it like that. I don't understand parents that do look
(12:00):
at it that way.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Hey. You even him a few years ago, back in
twenty eighteen, the four start, the four star wide receiver,
Jacob Copeland, and he was having a press conference on
national television yester year and he chose Florida over Alabama
and his mom got off the chair and walked walked
off the stage on national television. Those are the things,
(12:22):
that's what you're talking about. And I've honestly had people
come up to me and say to me, why would
you let your son go to know the Dame? And
it kind of just floored you for a minute, based
off of what plex based off of yet based off
of me going to Michigan State and him not following
(12:43):
my footsteps. And I say that, I said, I say, well,
what's wrong with no to Dame? Well, why wouldn't you
make him go to Michigan State. I'm not going to
make my son do anything. I mean, it's not about me.
This is his canvas. That he's sitting in front of
with his painting brush so he can paint his own picture.
(13:05):
It has nothing to do with me, and that's what
we're talking about. And we've seen it at every level,
from the little league level, from pee wee to junior
high to high school to college. And if your kids
are fortunate enough to make it to the professional level,
then that's a blessing in itself. But just like you said,
(13:27):
we've seen on every level everybody thinks their kid is
a professional athlete. And that is such a wrong way
to raise a kid, male or female. To sit here
and say that your kid is better than everybody else
and you think that you know your kid is a
(13:48):
professional athlete, and these kids are sick. In the sixth,
seventh and eighth grade, when my son went through the
recruiting process, I just stepped back because, like I said,
it's not about me.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
All I'm gonna do.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
If you ask me questions, I'm gonna give you my
best advice, and you make your decision based off of
how you feel where you see yourself at and.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Take whatever I.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Say and put it all together and make a decision
based off of yourself.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
It has nothing to do with me.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
So I think that's you know, that's what we're talking
about with this whole recruiting thing. And I couldn't be
more happier for, you know, my young man to you know,
to make his own decision and to go where he
wanted to go and it had abs nothing to do
with me. He did what he wanted to do, and
(14:41):
I couldn't be more happier.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
I love that. I just in my mind I try
to figure out, does it in any scenario? Are we
wrong for thinking that there is no scenario that exists
where if a kid does turn out to be that
type of a talent, are like, is it wrong for
is there?
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Is there?
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Is there a world? Is there a place of logic
that exists where a parent should be able to benefit
from their kid? That's what I've been because for me,
I don't it's not even a question to me, you know,
And like you guys have said, I I fall much
in line with what you guys have said. And you know,
my son did following my footsteps. He does have my name.
(15:25):
I didn't even want to name him after me. My
my wife did that. I didn't, you know, I'd love
for him to have carried on the tradition. I mean
he chose to be a linebacker. The kid was talented
enough to play other other positions, you know, he chose,
he chose to model his his game and play play linebacker.
(15:46):
He chose to go to Penn State. Much like what
you said, plex, I didn't. I didn't even really go
on the visits with him. Their mother manages them, you know,
and that's that's she handles all those things. Because I
don't want it to turn into their recruiting men versus
recruiting him. They're they're trying to give him an experience,
not give me an experience. I've been there, right, So
(16:09):
I just always kind of I don't want to be
naive or ignorant to Is there a scenario where it
does matter? Is it a health thing?
Speaker 4 (16:19):
You know?
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Your mom is sick, you know, and this is a
way for you to be able to support your mom,
like and she expects it. Like I put it on
the line, I put my health. I put these things
on on hold to make sure that I can help
you get to where you're supposed to be. Do I
just die now? You made it, You're not here anymore?
Do I? I don't know, I just wonder, is there
(16:43):
a scenario where it makes sense that you get an
ROI on your child? And the crazy thing is, as
much as it doesn't seem to have very much sense
at all or any any real logic to it, this
is how these agents and money managers and wealth planners.
This is one hundred percent how they are getting too families.
(17:08):
This is one hundred percent how they are being attractive
to families. And I'm not so sure that go figure.
I'm not so sure that that isn't how these universities
are getting these kids as well. I don't know. It's
a big conversation. It's going to continue to carry on,
just like this show up on Game is going to
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continue to carry on. Up next, we're going to talk
to your doors Sanders. Two speeding tickets in a month's time.
Is it a deal or no deal? Can't wait to
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(20:10):
got the deal done, fellas. We'll touch on that. We'll
get to that, but first let's get to this Shador
Sanders deal. He has been clearly a magnet for media attention.
It has continued on. Most of it has been very positive.
Most of it has been connected to what he's doing
(20:33):
in the practices that he's been a part of. But
the latest news to hit the wire has been him
getting a speeding ticket and then it coming out that
he's gotten a second speeding ticket in much of a
month's time. There have been a lot of conversations that
(20:55):
have ensued since that took place, and I wanted to
get your guys as a opinion on it. I know
I had mine during the week. I said, you know
what I said, but I don't want to I don't
want to put it out there until I hear what
you guys have to say. I'm curious as to how
should it be handled, how you think it should be handled.
Is it fear unfair the way that the coverage is
(21:16):
on him, or is it just you know? Is it
is it? Is it? Is it? You know? Is this
a shador thing in this moment? How you guys see it?
Speaker 4 (21:27):
LeVar? It's a speed ticket, bro Like, really, it's a
speeding ticket. That's what young man. Young people, you you
drive fast, sometimes you get a ticket, sometimes you don't.
Is it a big deal? Absolutely not. The majority of
(21:49):
people in life have received a speeding ticket. Now two
in the last month. You say, Okay, he's gonna learn
from this, and that's what it is. These are lessons
you learn as you start to get older. Okay, let
me show that. Oh wow, it hit the news. Wow,
(22:10):
it really is a microscope on me. Just getting the
speeding ticket. It's not a big it's not a DUI.
I got pulled over about about a month ago. I
was like, wow, I'm not even speeding. As soon as
I rolled down my window, I said, what did I do? Oh?
You got ten and windows? I said, you on one
of them days. Huh, I said, there's one hundred cars
(22:32):
on this freeway. You're gonna pull me over?
Speaker 1 (22:34):
All right?
Speaker 4 (22:34):
I got you literally gave me a fixed ticket, ten
and windows, and then got mad at me. I didn't
have a front license plate, and then he didn't make
it correctable. I try to go pay my ticket, I
can't pay it because of the officer of the way
he did the ticket. So he inconvenienced me in a
major way. And I just had ten windows. Everybody out
(22:58):
here has ten windows as far as you know. Hit
So maybe the officer's having a bad day, he argued
with his wife. I don't know what it was, but
he took it out on me with Shador, is he
gonna have to slow down absolutely because you don't want
to endanger yourself or others. But they're speeding tickets, man,
he speeding tickets. I don't like it because if that
(23:22):
was my son, I'm like, boy, please slow down. Please.
But we've all if driven extremely fast at times in
our life, especially when we're younger, and we got that
car as fast, always fast. I'm gonna see what it do.
I know when I got one of my cars that
was really fast, nobody was on the freeway. I promise
you I punched it like one twenty just to see
(23:42):
how it felt. Did I do it often? No? But
did I do it? Yes?
Speaker 3 (23:46):
I did, of course. I mean I kind of feel
the same way. But I don't agree with Shador saying that.
You know, you know, you teach that. You're saying that,
oh it hit the news. Everything is news with this guy,
I mean, and he better know that. I hope he
knows he knew that. He knew that then when high school.
(24:09):
Trust me, he knew he knew. He knew better than that.
I mean, look at who his that is. We all know,
you know, uh, that whole part of the story. But listen,
you don't get these Lamborghinias in ferraris or whatever whatever
they are to dry the speed limit, so that that's
just how it goes. But I just think that the
two in a week or whatever in the last couple
(24:30):
of weeks, that's a little bit excessive. I really don't
see it as a big deal. But it's kind of
one of those things, as you know, it's kind of
one of those I told you so you know, you know,
he's irresponsible, he doesn't care, and all those kinds of things.
But it's just something that I think of the past,
you know what, talking about speeding. This this is what
(24:52):
I want to ask y'all. Zach Edy was got caught
speeding in a Kia at one hundred and one miles
an hour. I called my buddy who owns dealerships. I said, man,
first of all, everybody's asked. Everybody's asking the wrong question.
The kids go one hundred and one miles an hour,
(25:14):
and how in the hell does Zach Edy fit in
a kill sorrento? And he's seven foot four, Hey man,
y'all asking y'all asking the wrong question. He got that
custom kid, bro he's got the custom kill.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
He got that drag r.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
He like Bubba Smith in the police academy, taking out
the front seat, sitting in the bank seat. But he's
driving in a in a in a kid sorrento at
seven foot four. Oh man, that is really something else.
But this whole sha door thing, man, I just think
you know, you know, they just want to you know, uh,
you know, paint the picture with a young man, you know,
(25:55):
you know, being irresponsible and with everything, you know, with
the draft concern. But just like TJ said, manb your
kids are going to make some mistakes, you know, just
you know, thank god nobody got hurt because we have
seen some of these some of these instances, you know,
you know, it come become fatal, somebody gets hurt or
(26:16):
whatever the case may be. But I believe he'll learn
from it and move on.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
I said, he who does not speed cast the first
stone at your door. That was my first take on it.
My second take was, if he's speeding, he's speeding. I'll
say this, I'm not trying to create any justification. It's
one thing to speed and you're speeding on purpose. It's
another thing to understand that these new cars. It doesn't
(26:42):
even feel driving forty to fifty miles per hour feels
like one hundred miles per hour and a new escalate.
And I'm not even joking the effort you got to
put into in a car that may not have the
horse power that another car has to get to that
fifty sixty, you know, even seventy mile per hour these
(27:03):
new cars out here, it doesn't. You barely are touching
the you're barely touching it the gas and you're going,
or the pedal and you're going, you know, upwards of
eighty five, you know, miles per hour. It's it's not
hard to speed. That was that was what I was thinking.
And then I thought to myself, you know, if the
(27:26):
kid wasn't intoxicated, if he wasn't you know, under the
influence in any type of way, if there was no
foul play connected to you know, him being over the
speed limit, then it is just for real, for real,
a learning situation for him. Then I started asking myself,
what is the con of it? Like, you got to
(27:48):
find the cons of these situations and try to understand
understand it from that angle. How does that How could
that hurt you know, hurt him in this situation. You
guys mentioned all he's they're responsible data, That could be
the narrative. You know, what I thought about, Fellas is
what if it's a normal free agent signing. What if
(28:10):
it's a normal you know, late round draft pick that
got two tickets, two speeding tickets in less than a month,
and and that was news that was reported to the organization,
how would they handle it? Is there any chance that
that kid would get let go based upon two run
(28:32):
ins with the law of you know, speeding. Now, while
I don't know how these you know, organizations, these coaches
or whatever handle those type of situations, I have no idea,
but I wondered if that would be the only thing
in terms of all right now, what happens is is
(28:55):
while you say, okay, learn from it, move on from it,
kids do this data due that was irresponsible? Blase blah.
But what does that do? Does that have any type
of impact on saying that, Okay, this is touching the
culture of the locker room, or this kid is getting
preferential treatment because he's you know, Shador Sanders. You know,
(29:15):
you kind of put yourself at risk for those types
of judgments when you find yourself in these types of situations.
That was kind of the conclusion that I had drawn.
Maybe that was the only con that I could come
up with. I mean, maybe there's more outside of obviously
you could injure somebody in yourself, you know, being being driving,
(29:38):
you know, as fast as you're driving out one hundred
miles per hour. But I mean, again, I drive in California,
You drive in California, TJ. When when when it's not
bumper to bumper parking lot traffic, If you're able to drive,
everybody drives. There's very there's less people that out here
that don't drive hard than people that do drive hard.
(30:01):
So if the speed limit is is sixty in an area,
but people are pushing and they're doing seventy five eighty,
everybody's really out there keeping pace with everybody. If you're
able to move that fast, you're moving that fast as
a fact, you know what I mean, Like sure, if
you're able to move that fast on the highway, you're
moving that fast because it's.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
On the early morning, early morning or late at night.
Late at night can be the same thing. That's the
only time you're really speeding out here.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
And that's seriously, like a norm. The out of the
ordinary is the few that you see, because there are
cars out here. The few that you see they doing
they they are they are grant preing it out there.
I have seen two three cars at a time. Maybe
they caught up on racing. Maybe somebody like I want
(30:53):
to see if my car can keep up with their car.
Whatever it may be, you'll see that out here pretty
much at the times I'm driving into work or like
you said later in the evening. But I don't know,
it seemed like it was a crazy to me. It's
a bit of a reach to try to make this
into a reason that Shador Sanders should be considered to
(31:14):
be maybe an issue to the team. I don't know,
But let's talk about this issue after the update. Shamar
Stewart still not done with the contract. Let's do that
after we get this update from our guy, Isaac Lowingron.
What you got, buddy, Yeah, I know exactly what you mean, Lebar.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
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the time. No huge scandals in Major League Baseball. One
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(31:53):
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(32:15):
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(32:36):
Cups in a row. We're not toning it down. And finally, guys.
Also trending right now in the NFL, a new social
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coach John Harbaugh in the weight room squatting four hundred
and five pounds. Your move, Jim back to you guys.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Here you go, strong coach there.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Huh. My whole back explode if I try that. Man.
I saw that video. I was like, Wow, hardball playing
at sixty two. Man. That's if I try to do
any squad, my whole back is done.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Hey, man, I gotta stay strong out here. Man, gravity
it takes us all over. Hey, listen, we're gonna talk
tomor Stewart still no contract, still trying to figure that out.
And we're gonna touch on Adrian Peterson at a poker tournament. Uh.
It's pretty interesting. I'm curious to hear what you guys
have to say about it. This is up on Games,
T J. Huschman's Outees, Plexico Burgs. I'm LeVar Arrington. We're
(33:40):
gonna take a quick break this Fox Sports Radio will
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Speaker 2 (33:44):
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Speaker 1 (33:57):
Alright, alright, alright, welcome back into the show. Is up
on game. Ste J Huchman's eyes plecs to go burst.
I'm LeVar Arrington. Before we get to the end of
the hour, let's touch on these topics. We got cuffs,
the legend coming on. We'll talk NBA the next hour.
That should be fun.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Fellas Adrian Peterson, he got into a little disagreement at
a poker tournament, turns out turns into a physical Uh
a physical deal. Does this hurt his chances to his
views as as a Hall of Famer when you're doing
those things? Is this something to be concerned about or
(34:36):
is it just a is an isolated incident?
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Man? Listen, man, you have a little confrontation. Man, it's
part of life? What is it? Part of life? Is
Ap man needed to get the hands right?
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Bro? He cannot fight? Bro? No, he is not a scuffer.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Bro Like he falls over like bro Le'Veon bell slapping
and then But I mean, I've seen a little poker fight.
I thought Ap was gonna.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
I thought he was him.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
I thought he was gonna parking. And when I watched it,
I said, oh no, yeah, Ap need to really get
in the gym with somebody man and know how to
throw them things. But I'm non potent now, man, I
appreciate that. I couldn't believe. I couldn't believe what I
was seeing.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
I'm like, brod, at least get your money's worth.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
And dudes, really they they they I don't know, man,
they I don't know. They can't fight. At least I
know one thing Adrian Peterson can do. He big and strong.
Pick him up and slamm him. Do something.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
I just the first thing that jumped off the page
to me. I was like, well, I think the first
first thing I noticed. I said, well, you know what,
his fighting game. Don't take out his running game. There
has to be a similarity somewhere along the line as
violent as this young man ran the football, running over
(36:05):
top people's stiff arming, breaking tackles. You mean to tell
me you bobbing and weaving a Jeff we guy at
five eight five. No, man, he's supposed to run up
in his mouth piece, quick boss. I don't even know what.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
He was doing. I don't think he ever been in
a fight.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
I was like, come on, get up on him, scoop them,
slamming dunk on the back of his head.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
Do something because you stand there looking crazy.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Okay, So no, deal. He can't fight now. Maybe if
he knocks the dude out and it looks horrible, maybe
it's egregious, it looks egregious, it could hurt him. But
this one right here, this is no news. Okay, all right,
let's move on to schamar Let's let's knock out the
Shamar's store. They continue to say hold out. I always
say I hate when they say holdouts with rookies because
(36:53):
they do not have a contract. I believe the legal
term of or the real term of holding out is
when you have a contract and you don't report in
to work, that's a holdout. What he's doing is negotiating.
This is negotiating. He's not yet an official employee of
your Cincinnati Bengals. I'm gonna let you have a TJ.
(37:15):
Where are we at with this? Why is it dragging out?
Why would any other rookie do this deal where the
guarantees can be canceled out? What's your perspective on it?
Speaker 4 (37:27):
It's unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Man.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
We had these same problems last year, lost some games
we shouldn't have lost early on and missed the playoffs
because of that. And it's the same thing this year.
Last year, it was the receivers. This year it's the
defensive ends, and so I don't know what to make
of it. Man, It's unfortunate because we assume when the
(37:52):
new CBA, everybody slotted, it should be easy, God should
be signed right away. Now it's the language you want
to put in contracts, and I see what organizations coming from,
But I really see where he's coming from. If last
year's pick didn't have to sign it, why should I?
Speaker 1 (38:07):
And nobody else is doing it.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
As nobody else in the first round is having that
language put in that contract, then why should I? And
so at some point in time does it become who
he's represented by, is his representation respected or do they
feel like they can bully him? I mean, because at
some point you're gonna have to play football, and at
(38:29):
some point, if your representation isn't respected, you got to
go get representation that is respected.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
M that's interesting what you think, plax.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
I just I don't understand it. I know the young
man wants his money and he's holding out, and he
doesn't wander to be the catalyst of something that has
happened to him that that that didn't happen to the
guys before and uh, just like TJ said, did they
gotta find a way to get it together? The Cincinnati
(39:02):
Bengals is I just have just always been that organization,
except as of late between Joe Burrow and T Higgins
and Jamal Chase as far as giving those guys contracts.
Trey Henderson still on the outside looking at them. Led
the league in Sex last year. I don't know what
the situation is with.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
That now, that's a hold out, that's a whole out. Yeah,
and does he get his deal done? Do they get
his deal?
Speaker 4 (39:25):
He deserves it. He had the league in Sex last year?
What are you giving? What are you giving Trey Henderson?
So Miles heart is at forty million, you're giving him
forty million?
Speaker 1 (39:35):
No, but why not? I'm not giving them the same age.
Speaker 4 (39:39):
I'm not giving him forty He's more productive.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
T J.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
Watt t J Watt once wants the same type of
money right now. And Hendrickson and probably Michael Parsons, Michael
Parker youngest has earned the youngest and has earned it.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
Trey hasn't earned it.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Yeah, he's earned it.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
I'm I'm not giving I'm not giving Trey Hendrickson forty
million a year. Because when you say named the best
pass rushers, this is just me name the best pass rushers.
I think of Myles Garrett, I think of TJ Why,
I think of Michael Parsons, I think of Matt Crosby.
Those are the guys that I think I think of.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Boston has been one of the butts pass rushers, premium
pass rushers.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
Two three years he has. He had four sax against
the Raiders, and so I say that to say when
we when we play the Ravens, we need those sacks.
We need those four saxsing against Raight.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
When y'all play, y'all need Trey Hendrickson Bros.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
I'm just yet he is. I'm not discrediting him. I'm
saying I'm not giving him forty million. And when you
say you're not giving a player forty millions as if
you're discribling. Oh, I'm not discribing him. He's a baller,
but I'm not giving him forty million.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
But that's just my standard. That's the standard of the
position as an elite pass rusher now, and that's because
of Miles Garrett.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
But I don't believe he's in the same class as
mink Xared. That's me, y'all either.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Steward, do you think it's a possibility that he can
reinto the of the NFL Draft.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
It's a possibility. I wouldn't advise it. That's a long
time without playing football. I would not advise it. They
gonna get something done. But again, y'all know this. If
a team feels like they can bully your representation, they
gonna bully them. You gotta get somebody that they know
they can't bully. If it continues to persist this.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Way, I'm the same age. I believe the same draft
as TJ. Watt. TJ Watt, I don't know if he's
gonna get it from Pittsburgh. I want to ask you that,
but plex but we don't have the time. Somebody going
somebody's gonna lose out here, and I don't know who
it is, or they're all gonna eat. I don't know, man.
We'll have to wait and see how that all plays out.
We'll circle back on that topic as it plays out.
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