August 3, 2024 • 41 mins
LaVar Arrington, TJ Houshmandzadeh, and Plaxico Burress talk about the reaction to Kevin Byard’s comments on Caleb Williams leadership, whether or not starters should be playing in the preseason, Dak prescott’s contract situation, and more!
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but first before we talk about Caleb Williams Amani Tumor
had something to say about it, uh and Kevin Bayer,
Caleb Williams teammate, will talk about that and just a
matter of moments. But first, how y'all doing Man Panteen,
Man Stretch, Armstrong, the superhero friends.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
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Speaker 5 (02:30):
You know when you look outside and you see not
a cloud in the skies, nice and warm palm trees everywhere.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Team you had say up nineteen felling real good, baby, Bawn.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
So when you look outside and there's no clubs in
the sky, you're definitely in California.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
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smile on your face.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
You just a different individual, man, where you got some
on your back.
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He be irritable when it when it's rainy at the
cloudy out.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
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ain't nothing right? You feeling stretch? What's going on you
in Jersey where we're part of that?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
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Speaker 1 (03:12):
Yeah, I'm just feeling great.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
Man.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
I'm gonna do this show right quick.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
And you know, my daughter's playing in the basketball tournament,
the last one for the summer. But it's here locally
in New Jersey, so when we ain't gotta travel this week.
But I think, man, this is the second weekend that
uh you know, I've been in New Jersey like in
the last eight weeks. So the AAU basketball season is
finally wrapping up, and I think she's gonna put a
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bow on it. Uh, you know, after this, after the
day and get ready to go into the school.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Yeah, man.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
All right, well, I'd love to hear that ain't good
luck to her and everything that she's doing.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Let's jump into this this first topic.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Caleb Williams, he's he's the obviously the number one drive
pick for the Bears. We didn't see him play. We'll
we'll touch on that as well. Starters, shut they play
should they not play? In the preseason Hall of Fame game,
we didn't see very many at all in the.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Game, but very very interesting.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Kevin Bayer, one of Caleb's teammates, came out and had
this to say about Caleb Williams and the way he leads.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Let's take a listen.
Speaker 6 (04:18):
First thing he says, like, hey man, we're all grown
in here right as we're going through training camp or
we're getting a little too sloppy, we're leaving water bottles
and towels and all types of things around. Man, Like
the custodians have a lot that they have to a
lot of square footage they have to cover at his
whole building. Let's try to help them out by clean
up after ourselves. When you want to be a great player,
you always focus on the little details, you know what
I mean, not even just the details of the player,
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but the details of everything around you.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Now, when I heard this, as long as it didn't
become a story based off of a narrative being created
by the media or a created narrative by Caleb Williams
and his camp, I felt like, hearing this from a
fellow team inmate that this was quite frankly amazing, because
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I believe I subscribe.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
I'm a military kid.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
I subscribe to cleanliness is next to godliness, and that
you should be super responsible over your space as it
applies to the locker room. And I have some pretty
interesting things to say about how the small details like
keeping your area clean, waking up, making your bid, how
that plays a major role in your success. But our
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former teammate, Stretch had a different perspective on this report.
In the words that were stated by Bayered, Here's what
a Moni Tumor had to say about Caleb Williams telling
veterans that this is what they needed to do.
Speaker 7 (05:48):
He's Russell Wilson two point Zeroh, this is not going
to go over well.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
If you came to the locker room. I've been here.
I've been in this locker room for eight years.
Speaker 7 (05:58):
Like you said, He's gonna come in who hasn't played
one snap talking with wearing the fingernail polish. You know,
now he's gonna come in here and tell me we've
been here, who've been through the struggle, that I need
to clean up?
Speaker 1 (06:12):
No, how about rookie, how about you clean up after me?
How about that?
Speaker 7 (06:15):
Don't give me this crap. I don't like it at all.
I feel like rookies should earn their respect. Sure, just
because you got drafted number one doesn't mean nothing to
me because I don't even know if you're good.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
I'll say this and then I'll turn it over to y'all.
My first thought process was, come on, MONI like I
feel like that is starting to earn your respect and
establish yourself in the locker room when you have certain
things like that, to say, holding yourself to a standard,
holding yourself to an accountability. I don't give a damn
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if I'm an undrafted free agent to the team. If
this is something that's going to make you better, something
that's going to make us better, it draws attention to
raising the level of paying attention to the details that
go into having success. An organized area work area says
that you have an organized mind that you can organize
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your thoughts if you're telling me you have a problem
with that and you want me as an undrafted free agent,
a number one draft pick draftee, that I should be
cleaning up after you because you've been in the league
for eight years and you're a veteran.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Now.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Respect is respect. I believe that respect is earned, it's
not given. But I also believe that being open to
someone who actually is telling you something that could be productive,
it should be warranted, it should be accepted, It should
be embraced versus being met with, you know, a harshness
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or being volatile or confrontational about it. But Aramani didn't
feel that way. How do you guys, how do you
guys fall on this topick?
Speaker 5 (08:01):
Man, I don't know what's going on, like Amoni tumor
like honestly, it doesn't matter if you the first pick,
the second pick, or the last pick. If you just
telling guys to clean up after themselves, what's the problem.
It don't matter who you are. If you feel you
want to voice that and you feel comfortable voicing that,
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that's the key. He feels comfortable in that locker room
to voice that to a bunch of grown men that
he's already becoming the leader. You don't have to be
the best player on a team. You have to be
a good player to say something like that, because if
you're not, everybody's gonna look at you. You don't have
to respect yet. But it doesn't matter who you are.
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It doesn't have to be careable. It could have been anybody.
The fact that he's telling guys to clean up after themselves.
I don't understand what's wrong with that really, Like, make
the jobs of the people that do their job to
make everything easy for you as easy as possible. I've
always felt like, you get out the shower, you just
throw it on the ground.
Speaker 8 (09:04):
Bro the hamper's right there, right there. Put your talent,
put moto tail in a hamper. You're gonna leave a bottle.
Put your bottle. And I never understood it, and I
was one to always say that. So I don't agree
with a mini tumor at all.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
And better yet, like why would you because he's a rooky.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
This is where I have a problem.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
When people say we don't even know if you can
play yet, just say he can't play absolutely at all.
He sucks. The fact that he's telling people to clean
up afternoon. What's wrong with that? That has nothing to
do with how good of a player you are. It's
the decency of a person so that somebody doesn't have
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to clean up after your dirty tail, That's all it is.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
What's wrong with that? You play with the money up?
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Boy, Me, hearing that come out of his mouth is
not shocking at all, be because I know exactly so
I don't even letder stand whyle y'all getting all bent
out of shape because that's a money to him of
one hundred percent. He's a he's an old school kind
of you know player. You know he came in in
the early nineties, and you know that's how it was.
You know, the rookies had to you know, clean up
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and you know, go get the donuts and all of
these kinds of things. But it has to start somewhere,
you know, when I came into when I came to
the Giants from Pittsburgh, we're talking about I left a
team that had just lost two APH championship games. I
left a fifteen and one football team to come to
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New York to put myself into a position and to
this puzzle to help you know, you know, win a
world championship, and it has to start somewhere, and it
comes down to details. And I understand exactly where this
young man is coming from. It's not just because he's
a rookie, but uh, you know when he said that,
there were a couple of things that jumped off to
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me that that I had issues with. When I was
in New York, I used to hate to get in
the sauna and its water bottles everywhere. I'm like, yo, man,
can't y'all bitch please throw y'all water bottles in the
trash can? Or even like we're in the cafeteria, we
had a sign on the bind it says please put
your utensils in the bin. And I would see people
just have the trade head of forks and spoons on
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the tray and just and just you know, throw it
to the people for them to clean it. I'm like, dog,
it says right here, just put your utensils, you know,
in the bin. And when I when you say things
like that, it comes down the details. And I remember
my first year in New York and O five we
got into training camp and they put up on the
board they had pencil penalties by every player and they
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had mental errors and I looked up on that board
and I was number one on the board with I
let the team with eleven penalties, and then on the
mental air side, I had like eighteen mental eras like
in a season.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
And I took it personally.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
I said to myself, I said, man, listen, I can't
get to where I want to go and help this
team get they want to go if I'm leading the
damn team in penalties and mental eras.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
I got to.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Clean that up from a detailed standpoint, just so we
can get better as a football team. And from him
being a number even you know he's a number one
pick of being a young quarterback and coming in and
not just you know, he's not telling you what to
do make these people's job easier around here, and that's
how you start to build and put together a winning
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culture and an organization, especially from a franchise quarterback standpoint. Listen,
I know Amani. I know exactly what kind of person
he is. He's just he's an old school kind of guy.
But for this young man to come in and to start,
you know, to telling his team about the little details
like this, it tells you what kind of quarterback.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
He's going to be moving forward. It made me feel
good about Caleb Williams. Don't be afraid, be unafraid establish
your respect factor. As Amani mentioned, like you haven't even
earned the respect yet. I feel like you should be
doing things off the field just as much as you
do on the field to start to earn that respect
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and garner the credibility of being a leader. And I'll
leave it at this, and then we'll get to a
break because we got a lot to get to and
we're up against it. If you got to tell a
grown ass man that they're too too dirty and that
we need to be more responsible over our own things,
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there's a couple of things that come to mind. You're
a very very either underdeveloped person and lack the training
of what common courtesy of a clean area represents. And
your home is probably a filthy wreck. You probably got
roaches and rodents running around your house because you don't
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know how to clean up after yourself and keep things
in the proper order. And you're also and you're also
someone who's entitled. So if your house is immaculately kept,
if everything is properly placed and put where it needs
to be the dishes are washed and they're in the
in the proper cupboards. Your laundry is washed and smells
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good with fabric softener and all those things. You have
somebody doing it for you. You have somebody doing it
for you. You either married somebody because you knew that's
what they would provide for you, pay your bills, take
care of everything for you and you're entitled, or you
hired somebody that keeps you organized that way.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Regardless of whichever one it is.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
As a grown ass man, you should be ashamed of
yourself that you don't have a higher standard for yourself
to make sure that you hold yourself to an accountability
and a standard where you give yourself an opportunity. We
get up early to do these shows. We have our
own bis businesses in our own lives. You know, TJ.
You have multiple enterprises that you're running. Plus you have
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multiple enterprises that you're running. And the things about it
is is, could you imagine if having your flag football
uniforms just be thrown around and strolled around and not washed,
and they could stand up on their own with the
stinc riga mortis or in the smoothie shop. You know,
you're leaving used utensils around and you're just reusing them
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and different things like that. How much success are you
going to have in your enterprise if you have a
bunch of underdeveloped or entitled people that are handling and
conducting business in your business, and for what it's worth,
those same people that are not doing what they're supposed
to do in the locker rooms to keep their areas
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clean and to show that they're responsible over themselves before
we even get into a meeting room or on the
football field, those same people are showing you that they're entitled, underdeveloped,
and not prepared to do what they need to do
to hold up there into the bargain for me personally,
for me if I'm Caleb Williams to have success, and
for him to call that out and say let's help
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out the janitors.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
He was putting it light, because.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
If it's for if we're being for real, you could
sit there and call you filthy mother efforts.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
This is some bs.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
It starts here and you know what, do better because
if we do better here, we'll do better everywhere else.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
That's just my take on it.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
And you know what I'm gonna put out there for
everybody else, the people that don't know LeVar Arrington is
a player that will lay his uniform out on the
ground and line it up before he puts it on
his back.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
He will line up his whole uniform.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
He will have he will have the cleats on the ground,
with the socks coming out of the cleats, learn into
the pants, with the pants on there, with the jersey
on the should paths with the helmet lined up, ready
to go.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Yeah, learned it from Prime and I always did it
because I need to know. I have little legs in
a big upper body. I just needed to.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Know what my uniform was going to look like before
I put it on. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
I ain't want to feel bad once I put my
uniform on, like this wasn't it.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
But anyway, let's.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Take a quick break here to play or not to
play in the preseason. Can't wait to hear what TJ
and the Plexico's opinions on that is.
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Hall of Fame enshrinements of the festivities took place. They
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got their jackets. Congratulations to all of the new inductees
to be enshrined in the hollow ground and final resting
place of greatness for the National Football League. They played
the game, but I think one of the bigger storylines
that has come out and developed coming out of this
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game was the idea that starters. None of the starters
were being used. Some weren't even dressed for the game.
Many weren't dressed for the game. And more specifically, even
though it was dominated the first segment on leadership, this
one is about well, a guy like a rookie, a
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number one pick with so much fanfear, so much attention,
so much scrutiny on on him, and Caleb Williams does
not play in this first game. Curious as as receivers
and being on the offensive side of the ball. Sure,
I got an idea what you guys may think. But
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should they play in the first preseason game, should they
get at least one series, two series? Should they get
some reps? Should should some of the veterans play in
the in the preseason first preseason game out? Do you
like the idea of guys not participating? Where do you
guys fall on this topic?
Speaker 5 (21:35):
Well, you all three of us, we come from an
era of an era not error e r A. Where
oh you were playing in the preseason game. It wasn't no,
it was no doubt you were. Everybody was playing in
every single preseason game, with the exception of maybe the
last one. And so you know, coming from how we
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were presented and what happened when we played, yeah, yeah
they should play.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
But when when you really start to look.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
At things scientifically, because when we played nothing was done scientifically,
it was done. We're gonna break these dudes down and
see who's soft that I mean, that's basically what it was.
It didn't matter what the science said, Oh he's running
too much out or now get out there and run more.
Just don't be soft. We're gonna we're gonna get rid
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of the punks and all the soft guys. But scientifically,
it may be saying, you know, plan less and maybe
not playing at all in the preseason. These coaches their
jobs are on the line. You lose your best players,
you are jobless, and so why am I gonna play
my best players in meaningless games. That's how they look
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at it, and I don't have a problem with it.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
If you feel.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Some of your vets are your better players, you feel
they shouldn't plan a preseason, don't play them, because ultimately,
when that regular season starts, you are going to be
judged by those games and how they played, not by
what they did in the preseason. And so for me,
that's why it's a case by case basis. It does
not matter to me if a coach plays his starters.
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Oh he's not Caleb Williams of a rookie, He's going
to get plenty of snaps, and had he played, he
would have been playing against a Houston Texas defense that
didn't play starters.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
So you want to see the best on the best.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
We wouldn't have been able to see that anyway, and
so I don't I don't have a problem with it.
I know as a player, when you're going through training
cap and you're not feeling so good, you don't want
to play in the preseason anyway. So I know a
lot of the guys didn't want to play anyway.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Man, if I'm a coach, First of all, I'm not
putting any of my players on that surface anyway, that
Tom Benson Stadium, that that field is not a good
place for me putting the NFL players on anyway. But
this is something that has you know, changed over the
last ten years, and you know, these coaches have sat
down and said that, you know, it benefits us in
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the team more if the starters and the quarterbacks don't play.
It's like you said, TJ. I came from area where
I played in every single preseason game except for the
last one, and you know, I wanted to get those reps.
You know, I wanted to you know, uh, you know,
get hit and then start to get my body ready
to go into the season because I don't want to
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walk into the first game of the season having not
been been tackled or or being a game type situation
since last season. That doesn't make me feel you know, confident.
You know when I step on the football field for
that very first time. I need to go out there
in this preseason, get some reps and see myself do
some good things, and you know, to evaluate my own
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self to see where I am going into going into
this season.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
But you know, that's just how it is. Now.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
The guys are not going to play, and you know,
and some of those guys they need those reps because
you may have a first round pick or a second
round pick that you don't want to put out there
him being a starter, and now you start off on
opening day and he's not who you thought is thought
he was. So where does the evaluation part come in at?
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You know, if your rookie coming in or first a
second year player and you're not proving and you have
no tape, they have no idea who this player is
until opening week. And I think that's one of the
main reasons why it takes now these teams five six, seven,
eight weeks to get to the point to where we
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know who they are as a team, because come week
one and when the season starts, we have no idea
because we haven't seen any of these guys play, and
either have the coaches.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
You know, we are all former players and we have
also had the opportunity to coach and have that vantage
point of being a coach looking at how you should
approach this. You know my thought on it is, and
you guys correct me if I'm wrong. I mean, maybe
it's different for everyone, but the amount of preparation that
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you have in practice cannot simulate the emotions, the feelings,
the energy that is generated and circulating on a game
day and going four quarters out the gate, first game
of the year, time to play, We're going full quarter,
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four quarters, full game. That game could be being played
in an environment where it's one hundred and some degrees
on that turf. It could be tremendously hot. How are
you managing your emotions and warm ups? How are you
managing your emotions before, you know, in the locker room,
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right before you come out and come on.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
To the field.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
How are you managing those emotions in the kickoff which
we'll get to the kickoff as well to talk about.
How are you managing your emotions when you come out
there on the field and you look across the ball
and you see Plexico Burs lined up, you see TJ.
Hitchman's side of lined up, you see somebody lined up
that you've seen growing up or you've played against in years.
You could be a veteran. I've always felt as though
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for me, having the opportunity to get into preseason games
was more so for me to get my feet on
the ground to so to speak, get my sea legs going,
because when you get into that first game and they
get that eight play nine play drive going down the field,
(27:41):
you I don't care how much you've worked out in
the preseason. I mean in the offseason, I don't care
how much you have had prepared and conditioned.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
You are cassed, you Todd boss. I mean I'm talking.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
You got to dig deep in your soul to find
that energy and be like, we gotta get a play.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
We gotta get a play. I can't breathe. We gotta
get a play, right. And that's both sides of the ball,
so to me.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
While I understand the idea of not risking it and
not putting guys in there in a preseason situation where
there could be an injury that takes place, there's also
the idea that there are little, small minute details that
are connected to why you should give teams game reps.
You can't simulate it in inner squad exhibition scrimmages.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
You can't do it.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
You can't do it on nine on seven half line
run drill, and so you can't do it. You can't
do it on one on ones out there, you cannot
do it because for some strange reason, the phenomenon of
football does not allow a practice environment to simulate a
game a game situation.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
So to me, that would be my argument point.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Listen, they're not going to be in there long enough
to get impactful reps that make them feel comfortable physically
in terms of going through four quarters. But to me,
I think mentally, you give these guys the opportunity every
single chance you can to go through the preparation of
how they put their uniform on, what they do in
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the training room, what that looks like, pregame adjustments or
thoughts with your coaches, get out there, feel what it
looks like, it feels like when they kick the ball off,
Feel what it feels like when your unit goes on
to the field for that first series, and then get
them out.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
If if you're not going against the other team starters,
you don't have that adrenaline, you don't have that, so
you don't get your heart rate up to where it
would be game one, and you can get that type
of situation in it just you're just not excited for that,
and so your heart rate isn't going to be up
as it would be if you were playing a real game,
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because you don't feel the threat that the other team
starters would bring as opposed to the backups, and so
I'm not gonna lie. I really enjoyed the way these coaches,
and specifically Sean McVay, the younger coaches, have come in
and said I'm gonna do things this way, because let's
(30:16):
be honest, nobody was really doing that before Sean McVay
started doing it.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Sean McVay started this.
Speaker 5 (30:22):
He started this, and I like it, and I cannot
recall a player that has played for Sean McVay, and
they may not even be playing for Sean mcvah any longer.
They can't say a negative thing about the man because
he's honest with you. But he started this, and I
(30:43):
love it because now these other coaches are starting to realize,
like you really don't have to plan a preseason to
get ready to play, and they're not doing as many
live periods in training camp that we did.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
I mean, I don't know, like.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
Marvel this period, live this period, live, get the ones
on defensive, ones on on offense. We're gonna go live
this period. And so you never knew in training camp
you know. I remember one time me and Chad try
to come out we're full pass. This's true story. We
try to come out in shells. Everybody in full pass.
(31:20):
Me and Chad got on shells. Marvin talking about this
period live, Me and Chad looked at each other and
we like, oh, I hope they don't put us in
on this man. We went to the coach, our receiver,
coach Hugh and was like, here we got shells on.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Oh. He was so pissed. He was so pissed because
then Marvin was like, watch at DJ ain't in.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
It was like, uh, you know, here we are trying
to pull a fast one. We didn't want to practice
with our shoulder pads on, and he none decided and maybe,
just maybe Marvin realized we had shells on, and that's
why he went live.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
We'll never know, but that would happen a lot in
training to come with Marvin.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
This period is live, but it wasn't supposed to be live,
and so Sean McVay started it. Me personally, I love it.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Yeah, man, I mean, it's pros and cons to it all,
but you know, I just from a mental standpoint, just
just you know, everything that LeVar just said from the
nine on seven to the one on ones. You can't
simulate that from a mental standpoint getting ready to play
a football game on opening day, because man, there's so
many things going through your mind. From a mental standpoint,
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you just you're trying to calm your mind down and
really trying to show your heart rate down because you know,
once that ball going there, it's gonna be something that
you haven't felt.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
In a very long time. So, uh, you know, I'm
a fan of it.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
I don't have a problem with it, but I just think,
you know, from me from a personal standpoint, I needed
those reps. Man, from a confidence standpoint.
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Illo Dak Prescott, he had some interesting things to say.
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Speaker 1 (36:07):
Fellas Dak Prescott.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
He seems to think that, you know, what all I
gotta do is just do what I do. Here's what
he had to say about his contract situation and everything
that's going on.
Speaker 11 (36:19):
The money's out there, the money can it can happen.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
It can be done.
Speaker 11 (36:22):
There's ways to make everything work for both ways. And
that's in that sense as it's always about pushing the
envelope for the next man. And that's why I said that.
But then again it's I've never truly cared about the number.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Hmm, never truly cared about the number.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
At what point in time does it become evident or
relevant that he either is telling the truth or he's telling.
Speaker 5 (36:50):
A fib man. Listen, we always care about the number.
When you hear a guy say that, snuffy, yeah, well,
if we didn't care about the number, the deal would
have been done, and it had been done a long
time ago. And so I don't even know if we
have enough time to discuss this because Dak Prescott is
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a good quarterback. He really is runner up to the
MVP last year, always has Dallas Cowboys and contention, and
then when the playoffs starts, the dack that you saw
in the regular season is not the dack that you're
getting the playoffs. If I'm the Dallas Cowboys, I'm a
pay Dak. I truly am gonna. I'm gonna pay him.
(37:35):
I just probably not gonna pay him what he wants.
I'm not giving I'm not making Dak Prescott the highest
paid quarterback.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
In the league.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
I'm not doing that because he You're gonna win twelve
games and then you're gonna lose in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
And that's just what has happened. Can Dak play? Yes?
Is Dak a good quarterback? Yes?
Speaker 5 (37:56):
If I'm Jerry Jones and the Cowboys, do I want
Dak on my team? Yes, But I'm not giving Dak
sixty million a year. Absolutely not. And that's not a
bad thing because the Dallas Cowboys had nine they had
eight All Pros last year, not including Dak. DA had
nine All Pros including Deck obviously eight All pros, eight
(38:21):
the most of any team. And you lose a home
playoff game to a team and a quarterback making his
first start in the playoffs ever, first year as a starter.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
I'm proven.
Speaker 5 (38:34):
And the previous year you played at San Francisco forty
nine ers couldn't score play technique, I mean for all
tense purposes score but it was like didn't.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Matter, unproven quarterback. And so I'm not willing.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
To give you sixty million a year when I kind
of have an idea now what the results will be.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
That's just me mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
You know what, Man, the quarterback market right now whereas
currently at I don't really think that it's sustainable moving
forward now unless these TV revenues and you know, the
all this money that these teams are bringing in increases, uh,
you know, dramatically. And it's like you said, Dak's a
(39:26):
good quarterback and Jerry Jones, I believe that he's really
pushed all his chips into the middle of table. I
really believe that, because there would be no excuse for
you know, the off season that they have without really
adding anybody to make this team a better football team.
But I do believe that they do have all the
pieces under the under this roof to get to get
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to a World Championship, and it's all going to come
down to what can Dak Prescott do. But I just
think that Jerry Jones in the place where you know,
he's giving out these big contract these large contracts you know,
in the past, and it hasn't really panned out, and
that hasn't resulted in bringing the Lombardy back to Dallas.
So I think with this whole CD Lamb situation, and
(40:10):
even with Dak Prescott, he saying, you know what, I'm
not rewarding or giving anybody any more money until I
see a dramatic improvement on this football team, at least
getting to an NFC Championship game or getting to a
Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
I believe if.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
They don't get it done this year, Dak Prescott will
not be the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys next year.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Mike McCarthy's is going to be fired.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
And I don't know what you're gonna do with CD
Lamb because it kind of seems like to me, he
don't want to make he doesn't want to compensate this
young man for everything that he's earned thus far. He
clearly deserves to be paid. And it just shows me that,
you know, what and it's reminded CD Lamb. I don't care, man,
how much they'd like it. You can be a great person,
hell of a person, but it's still a business at
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the end of the day. So I think Jerry Jones
has said, listen, I'm not giving out these monster contracts
until I see my boys winning some football games and
put me in a position that win in another Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
Well, I think this is a monster show that we're
having right now with monster topics, So make sure you
guys stay tuned in for hour two. I'll just say
very quickly, they're in a bad situation in Dallas because
he can go get about fifty two, fifty three, fifty four,
fifty five, maybe even a little bit more than that.
So Rob, they don't have to pay that sixty million,
or shouldn't. It could be possible that they're gonna have
(41:33):
to pay somewhere close to it. We'll see how it
all plays out. It is two three guys, all right.
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she's so great she won a gold medal. Another one
greatest of all all time. Well, it wasn't too long
ago before people were uh saying other things about one
Simone Bowels. We'll touch on that as we get into it,
(02:08):
but first before we talk about Caleb Williams Amani Tumor
had something to say about it, uh and Kevin Bayer,
Caleb Williams teammate, will talk about that and just a
matter of moments. But first, how y'all doing Man Panteen,
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You know when you look outside and you see not
a cloud in the skies, nice and warm palm trees everywhere.
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Team you had say up nineteen felling real good, baby, Bawn.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
So when you look outside and there's no clubs in
the sky, you're definitely in California.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
Huh. A smile on the face, plaid, She's going to
smile on your face.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
You just a different individual, man, where you got some
on your back.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
He is different.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
He be irritable when it when it's rainy at the
cloudy out.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Yeah, I mean the scrumble augur too. I mean, just
ain't nothing right? You feeling stretch? What's going on you
in Jersey where we're part of that?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
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Speaker 1 (03:12):
Yeah, I'm just feeling great.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
Man.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
I'm gonna do this show right quick.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
And you know, my daughter's playing in the basketball tournament,
the last one for the summer. But it's here locally
in New Jersey, so when we ain't gotta travel this week.
But I think, man, this is the second weekend that
uh you know, I've been in New Jersey like in
the last eight weeks. So the AAU basketball season is
finally wrapping up, and I think she's gonna put a
(03:36):
bow on it. Uh, you know, after this, after the
day and get ready to go into the school.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Yeah, man.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
All right, well, I'd love to hear that ain't good
luck to her and everything that she's doing.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Let's jump into this this first topic.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Caleb Williams, he's he's the obviously the number one drive
pick for the Bears. We didn't see him play. We'll
we'll touch on that as well. Starters, shut they play
should they not play? In the preseason Hall of Fame game,
we didn't see very many at all in the.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Game, but very very interesting.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Kevin Bayer, one of Caleb's teammates, came out and had
this to say about Caleb Williams and the way he leads.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Let's take a listen.
Speaker 6 (04:18):
First thing he says, like, hey man, we're all grown
in here right as we're going through training camp or
we're getting a little too sloppy, we're leaving water bottles
and towels and all types of things around. Man, Like
the custodians have a lot that they have to a
lot of square footage they have to cover at his
whole building. Let's try to help them out by clean
up after ourselves. When you want to be a great player,
you always focus on the little details, you know what
I mean, not even just the details of the player,
(04:39):
but the details of everything around you.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Now, when I heard this, as long as it didn't
become a story based off of a narrative being created
by the media or a created narrative by Caleb Williams
and his camp, I felt like, hearing this from a
fellow team inmate that this was quite frankly amazing, because
(05:06):
I believe I subscribe.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
I'm a military kid.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
I subscribe to cleanliness is next to godliness, and that
you should be super responsible over your space as it
applies to the locker room. And I have some pretty
interesting things to say about how the small details like
keeping your area clean, waking up, making your bid, how
that plays a major role in your success. But our
(05:31):
former teammate, Stretch had a different perspective on this report.
In the words that were stated by Bayered, Here's what
a Moni Tumor had to say about Caleb Williams telling
veterans that this is what they needed to do.
Speaker 7 (05:48):
He's Russell Wilson two point Zeroh, this is not going
to go over well.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
If you came to the locker room. I've been here.
I've been in this locker room for eight years.
Speaker 7 (05:58):
Like you said, He's gonna come in who hasn't played
one snap talking with wearing the fingernail polish. You know,
now he's gonna come in here and tell me we've
been here, who've been through the struggle, that I need
to clean up?
Speaker 1 (06:12):
No, how about rookie, how about you clean up after me?
How about that?
Speaker 7 (06:15):
Don't give me this crap. I don't like it at all.
I feel like rookies should earn their respect. Sure, just
because you got drafted number one doesn't mean nothing to
me because I don't even know if you're good.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
I'll say this and then I'll turn it over to y'all.
My first thought process was, come on, MONI like I
feel like that is starting to earn your respect and
establish yourself in the locker room when you have certain
things like that, to say, holding yourself to a standard,
holding yourself to an accountability. I don't give a damn
(06:48):
if I'm an undrafted free agent to the team. If
this is something that's going to make you better, something
that's going to make us better, it draws attention to
raising the level of paying attention to the details that
go into having success. An organized area work area says
that you have an organized mind that you can organize
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your thoughts if you're telling me you have a problem
with that and you want me as an undrafted free agent,
a number one draft pick draftee, that I should be
cleaning up after you because you've been in the league
for eight years and you're a veteran.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Now.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Respect is respect. I believe that respect is earned, it's
not given. But I also believe that being open to
someone who actually is telling you something that could be productive,
it should be warranted, it should be accepted, It should
be embraced versus being met with, you know, a harshness
(07:51):
or being volatile or confrontational about it. But Aramani didn't
feel that way. How do you guys, how do you
guys fall on this topick?
Speaker 5 (08:01):
Man, I don't know what's going on, like Amoni tumor
like honestly, it doesn't matter if you the first pick,
the second pick, or the last pick. If you just
telling guys to clean up after themselves, what's the problem.
It don't matter who you are. If you feel you
want to voice that and you feel comfortable voicing that,
(08:23):
that's the key. He feels comfortable in that locker room
to voice that to a bunch of grown men that
he's already becoming the leader. You don't have to be
the best player on a team. You have to be
a good player to say something like that, because if
you're not, everybody's gonna look at you. You don't have
to respect yet. But it doesn't matter who you are.
(08:44):
It doesn't have to be careable. It could have been anybody.
The fact that he's telling guys to clean up after themselves.
I don't understand what's wrong with that really, Like, make
the jobs of the people that do their job to
make everything easy for you as easy as possible. I've
always felt like, you get out the shower, you just
throw it on the ground.
Speaker 8 (09:04):
Bro the hamper's right there, right there. Put your talent,
put moto tail in a hamper. You're gonna leave a bottle.
Put your bottle. And I never understood it, and I
was one to always say that. So I don't agree
with a mini tumor at all.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
And better yet, like why would you because he's a rooky.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
This is where I have a problem.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
When people say we don't even know if you can
play yet, just say he can't play absolutely at all.
He sucks. The fact that he's telling people to clean
up afternoon. What's wrong with that? That has nothing to
do with how good of a player you are. It's
the decency of a person so that somebody doesn't have
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to clean up after your dirty tail, That's all it is.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
What's wrong with that? You play with the money up?
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Boy, Me, hearing that come out of his mouth is
not shocking at all, be because I know exactly so
I don't even letder stand whyle y'all getting all bent
out of shape because that's a money to him of
one hundred percent. He's a he's an old school kind
of you know player. You know he came in in
the early nineties, and you know that's how it was.
You know, the rookies had to you know, clean up
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and you know, go get the donuts and all of
these kinds of things. But it has to start somewhere,
you know, when I came into when I came to
the Giants from Pittsburgh, we're talking about I left a
team that had just lost two APH championship games. I
left a fifteen and one football team to come to
(10:43):
New York to put myself into a position and to
this puzzle to help you know, you know, win a
world championship, and it has to start somewhere, and it
comes down to details. And I understand exactly where this
young man is coming from. It's not just because he's
a rookie, but uh, you know when he said that,
there were a couple of things that jumped off to
(11:04):
me that that I had issues with. When I was
in New York, I used to hate to get in
the sauna and its water bottles everywhere. I'm like, yo, man,
can't y'all bitch please throw y'all water bottles in the
trash can? Or even like we're in the cafeteria, we
had a sign on the bind it says please put
your utensils in the bin. And I would see people
just have the trade head of forks and spoons on
(11:26):
the tray and just and just you know, throw it
to the people for them to clean it. I'm like, dog,
it says right here, just put your utensils, you know,
in the bin. And when I when you say things
like that, it comes down the details. And I remember
my first year in New York and O five we
got into training camp and they put up on the
board they had pencil penalties by every player and they
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had mental errors and I looked up on that board
and I was number one on the board with I
let the team with eleven penalties, and then on the
mental air side, I had like eighteen mental eras like
in a season.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
And I took it personally.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
I said to myself, I said, man, listen, I can't
get to where I want to go and help this
team get they want to go if I'm leading the
damn team in penalties and mental eras.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
I got to.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Clean that up from a detailed standpoint, just so we
can get better as a football team. And from him
being a number even you know he's a number one
pick of being a young quarterback and coming in and
not just you know, he's not telling you what to
do make these people's job easier around here, and that's
how you start to build and put together a winning
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culture and an organization, especially from a franchise quarterback standpoint. Listen,
I know Amani. I know exactly what kind of person
he is. He's just he's an old school kind of guy.
But for this young man to come in and to start,
you know, to telling his team about the little details
like this, it tells you what kind of quarterback.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
He's going to be moving forward. It made me feel
good about Caleb Williams. Don't be afraid, be unafraid establish
your respect factor. As Amani mentioned, like you haven't even
earned the respect yet. I feel like you should be
doing things off the field just as much as you
do on the field to start to earn that respect
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and garner the credibility of being a leader. And I'll
leave it at this, and then we'll get to a
break because we got a lot to get to and
we're up against it. If you got to tell a
grown ass man that they're too too dirty and that
we need to be more responsible over our own things,
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there's a couple of things that come to mind. You're
a very very either underdeveloped person and lack the training
of what common courtesy of a clean area represents. And
your home is probably a filthy wreck. You probably got
roaches and rodents running around your house because you don't
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know how to clean up after yourself and keep things
in the proper order. And you're also and you're also
someone who's entitled. So if your house is immaculately kept,
if everything is properly placed and put where it needs
to be the dishes are washed and they're in the
in the proper cupboards. Your laundry is washed and smells
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good with fabric softener and all those things. You have
somebody doing it for you. You have somebody doing it
for you. You either married somebody because you knew that's
what they would provide for you, pay your bills, take
care of everything for you and you're entitled, or you
hired somebody that keeps you organized that way.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Regardless of whichever one it is.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
As a grown ass man, you should be ashamed of
yourself that you don't have a higher standard for yourself
to make sure that you hold yourself to an accountability
and a standard where you give yourself an opportunity. We
get up early to do these shows. We have our
own bis businesses in our own lives. You know, TJ.
You have multiple enterprises that you're running. Plus you have
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multiple enterprises that you're running. And the things about it
is is, could you imagine if having your flag football
uniforms just be thrown around and strolled around and not washed,
and they could stand up on their own with the
stinc riga mortis or in the smoothie shop. You know,
you're leaving used utensils around and you're just reusing them
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and different things like that. How much success are you
going to have in your enterprise if you have a
bunch of underdeveloped or entitled people that are handling and
conducting business in your business, and for what it's worth,
those same people that are not doing what they're supposed
to do in the locker rooms to keep their areas
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clean and to show that they're responsible over themselves before
we even get into a meeting room or on the
football field, those same people are showing you that they're entitled, underdeveloped,
and not prepared to do what they need to do
to hold up there into the bargain for me personally,
for me if I'm Caleb Williams to have success, and
for him to call that out and say let's help
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out the janitors.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
He was putting it light, because.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
If it's for if we're being for real, you could
sit there and call you filthy mother efforts.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
This is some bs.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
It starts here and you know what, do better because
if we do better here, we'll do better everywhere else.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
That's just my take on it.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
And you know what I'm gonna put out there for
everybody else, the people that don't know LeVar Arrington is
a player that will lay his uniform out on the
ground and line it up before he puts it on
his back.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
He will line up his whole uniform.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
He will have he will have the cleats on the ground,
with the socks coming out of the cleats, learn into
the pants, with the pants on there, with the jersey
on the should paths with the helmet lined up, ready
to go.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Yeah, learned it from Prime and I always did it
because I need to know. I have little legs in
a big upper body. I just needed to.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Know what my uniform was going to look like before
I put it on. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
I ain't want to feel bad once I put my
uniform on, like this wasn't it.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
But anyway, let's.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Take a quick break here to play or not to
play in the preseason. Can't wait to hear what TJ
and the Plexico's opinions on that is.
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We are live from the Tyreck dot com studios. Ste
J Huschman's as Plexcoe Burrs LaVar Arrington. This is Fox
Sports Radio. Appreciate you guys being locked in fellas the
Hall of Fame enshrinements of the festivities took place. They
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got their jackets. Congratulations to all of the new inductees
to be enshrined in the hollow ground and final resting
place of greatness for the National Football League. They played
the game, but I think one of the bigger storylines
that has come out and developed coming out of this
(20:31):
game was the idea that starters. None of the starters
were being used. Some weren't even dressed for the game.
Many weren't dressed for the game. And more specifically, even
though it was dominated the first segment on leadership, this
one is about well, a guy like a rookie, a
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number one pick with so much fanfear, so much attention,
so much scrutiny on on him, and Caleb Williams does
not play in this first game. Curious as as receivers
and being on the offensive side of the ball. Sure,
I got an idea what you guys may think. But
(21:14):
should they play in the first preseason game, should they
get at least one series, two series? Should they get
some reps? Should should some of the veterans play in
the in the preseason first preseason game out? Do you
like the idea of guys not participating? Where do you
guys fall on this topic?
Speaker 5 (21:35):
Well, you all three of us, we come from an
era of an era not error e r A. Where
oh you were playing in the preseason game. It wasn't no,
it was no doubt you were. Everybody was playing in
every single preseason game, with the exception of maybe the
last one. And so you know, coming from how we
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were presented and what happened when we played, yeah, yeah
they should play.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
But when when you really start to look.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
At things scientifically, because when we played nothing was done scientifically,
it was done. We're gonna break these dudes down and
see who's soft that I mean, that's basically what it was.
It didn't matter what the science said, Oh he's running
too much out or now get out there and run more.
Just don't be soft. We're gonna we're gonna get rid
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of the punks and all the soft guys. But scientifically,
it may be saying, you know, plan less and maybe
not playing at all in the preseason. These coaches their
jobs are on the line. You lose your best players,
you are jobless, and so why am I gonna play
my best players in meaningless games. That's how they look
(22:49):
at it, and I don't have a problem with it.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
If you feel.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Some of your vets are your better players, you feel
they shouldn't plan a preseason, don't play them, because ultimately,
when that regular season starts, you are going to be
judged by those games and how they played, not by
what they did in the preseason. And so for me,
that's why it's a case by case basis. It does
not matter to me if a coach plays his starters.
(23:15):
Oh he's not Caleb Williams of a rookie, He's going
to get plenty of snaps, and had he played, he
would have been playing against a Houston Texas defense that
didn't play starters.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
So you want to see the best on the best.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
We wouldn't have been able to see that anyway, and
so I don't I don't have a problem with it.
I know as a player, when you're going through training
cap and you're not feeling so good, you don't want
to play in the preseason anyway. So I know a
lot of the guys didn't want to play anyway.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Man, if I'm a coach, First of all, I'm not
putting any of my players on that surface anyway, that
Tom Benson Stadium, that that field is not a good
place for me putting the NFL players on anyway. But
this is something that has you know, changed over the
last ten years, and you know, these coaches have sat
down and said that, you know, it benefits us in
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the team more if the starters and the quarterbacks don't play.
It's like you said, TJ. I came from area where
I played in every single preseason game except for the
last one, and you know, I wanted to get those reps.
You know, I wanted to you know, uh, you know,
get hit and then start to get my body ready
to go into the season because I don't want to
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walk into the first game of the season having not
been been tackled or or being a game type situation
since last season. That doesn't make me feel you know, confident.
You know when I step on the football field for
that very first time. I need to go out there
in this preseason, get some reps and see myself do
some good things, and you know, to evaluate my own
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self to see where I am going into going into
this season.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
But you know, that's just how it is. Now.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
The guys are not going to play, and you know,
and some of those guys they need those reps because
you may have a first round pick or a second
round pick that you don't want to put out there
him being a starter, and now you start off on
opening day and he's not who you thought is thought
he was. So where does the evaluation part come in at?
(25:15):
You know, if your rookie coming in or first a
second year player and you're not proving and you have
no tape, they have no idea who this player is
until opening week. And I think that's one of the
main reasons why it takes now these teams five six, seven,
eight weeks to get to the point to where we
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know who they are as a team, because come week
one and when the season starts, we have no idea
because we haven't seen any of these guys play, and
either have the coaches.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
You know, we are all former players and we have
also had the opportunity to coach and have that vantage
point of being a coach looking at how you should
approach this. You know my thought on it is, and
you guys correct me if I'm wrong. I mean, maybe
it's different for everyone, but the amount of preparation that
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you have in practice cannot simulate the emotions, the feelings,
the energy that is generated and circulating on a game
day and going four quarters out the gate, first game
of the year, time to play, We're going full quarter,
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four quarters, full game. That game could be being played
in an environment where it's one hundred and some degrees
on that turf. It could be tremendously hot. How are
you managing your emotions and warm ups? How are you
managing your emotions before, you know, in the locker room,
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right before you come out and come on.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
To the field.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
How are you managing those emotions in the kickoff which
we'll get to the kickoff as well to talk about.
How are you managing your emotions when you come out
there on the field and you look across the ball
and you see Plexico Burs lined up, you see TJ.
Hitchman's side of lined up, you see somebody lined up
that you've seen growing up or you've played against in years.
You could be a veteran. I've always felt as though
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for me, having the opportunity to get into preseason games
was more so for me to get my feet on
the ground to so to speak, get my sea legs going,
because when you get into that first game and they
get that eight play nine play drive going down the field,
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you I don't care how much you've worked out in
the preseason. I mean in the offseason, I don't care
how much you have had prepared and conditioned.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
You are cassed, you Todd boss. I mean I'm talking.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
You got to dig deep in your soul to find
that energy and be like, we gotta get a play.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
We gotta get a play. I can't breathe. We gotta
get a play, right. And that's both sides of the ball,
so to me.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
While I understand the idea of not risking it and
not putting guys in there in a preseason situation where
there could be an injury that takes place, there's also
the idea that there are little, small minute details that
are connected to why you should give teams game reps.
You can't simulate it in inner squad exhibition scrimmages.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
You can't do it.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
You can't do it on nine on seven half line
run drill, and so you can't do it. You can't
do it on one on ones out there, you cannot
do it because for some strange reason, the phenomenon of
football does not allow a practice environment to simulate a
game a game situation.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
So to me, that would be my argument point.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Listen, they're not going to be in there long enough
to get impactful reps that make them feel comfortable physically
in terms of going through four quarters. But to me,
I think mentally, you give these guys the opportunity every
single chance you can to go through the preparation of
how they put their uniform on, what they do in
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the training room, what that looks like, pregame adjustments or
thoughts with your coaches, get out there, feel what it
looks like, it feels like when they kick the ball off,
Feel what it feels like when your unit goes on
to the field for that first series, and then get
them out.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
If if you're not going against the other team starters,
you don't have that adrenaline, you don't have that, so
you don't get your heart rate up to where it
would be game one, and you can get that type
of situation in it just you're just not excited for that,
and so your heart rate isn't going to be up
as it would be if you were playing a real game,
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because you don't feel the threat that the other team
starters would bring as opposed to the backups, and so
I'm not gonna lie. I really enjoyed the way these coaches,
and specifically Sean McVay, the younger coaches, have come in
and said I'm gonna do things this way, because let's
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be honest, nobody was really doing that before Sean McVay
started doing it.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Sean McVay started this.
Speaker 5 (30:22):
He started this, and I like it, and I cannot
recall a player that has played for Sean McVay, and
they may not even be playing for Sean mcvah any longer.
They can't say a negative thing about the man because
he's honest with you. But he started this, and I
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love it because now these other coaches are starting to realize,
like you really don't have to plan a preseason to
get ready to play, and they're not doing as many
live periods in training camp that we did.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
I mean, I don't know, like.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
Marvel this period, live this period, live, get the ones
on defensive, ones on on offense. We're gonna go live
this period. And so you never knew in training camp
you know. I remember one time me and Chad try
to come out we're full pass. This's true story. We
try to come out in shells. Everybody in full pass.
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Me and Chad got on shells. Marvin talking about this
period live, Me and Chad looked at each other and
we like, oh, I hope they don't put us in
on this man. We went to the coach, our receiver,
coach Hugh and was like, here we got shells on.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Oh. He was so pissed. He was so pissed because
then Marvin was like, watch at DJ ain't in.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
It was like, uh, you know, here we are trying
to pull a fast one. We didn't want to practice
with our shoulder pads on, and he none decided and maybe,
just maybe Marvin realized we had shells on, and that's
why he went live.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
We'll never know, but that would happen a lot in
training to come with Marvin.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
This period is live, but it wasn't supposed to be live,
and so Sean McVay started it. Me personally, I love it.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Yeah, man, I mean, it's pros and cons to it all,
but you know, I just from a mental standpoint, just
just you know, everything that LeVar just said from the
nine on seven to the one on ones. You can't
simulate that from a mental standpoint getting ready to play
a football game on opening day, because man, there's so
many things going through your mind. From a mental standpoint,
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you just you're trying to calm your mind down and
really trying to show your heart rate down because you know,
once that ball going there, it's gonna be something that
you haven't felt.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
In a very long time. So, uh, you know, I'm
a fan of it.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
I don't have a problem with it, but I just think,
you know, from me from a personal standpoint, I needed
those reps. Man, from a confidence standpoint.
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Illo Dak Prescott, he had some interesting things to say.
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Speaker 1 (36:07):
Fellas Dak Prescott.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
He seems to think that, you know, what all I
gotta do is just do what I do. Here's what
he had to say about his contract situation and everything
that's going on.
Speaker 11 (36:19):
The money's out there, the money can it can happen.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
It can be done.
Speaker 11 (36:22):
There's ways to make everything work for both ways. And
that's in that sense as it's always about pushing the
envelope for the next man. And that's why I said that.
But then again it's I've never truly cared about the number.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Hmm, never truly cared about the number.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
At what point in time does it become evident or
relevant that he either is telling the truth or he's telling.
Speaker 5 (36:50):
A fib man. Listen, we always care about the number.
When you hear a guy say that, snuffy, yeah, well,
if we didn't care about the number, the deal would
have been done, and it had been done a long
time ago. And so I don't even know if we
have enough time to discuss this because Dak Prescott is
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a good quarterback. He really is runner up to the
MVP last year, always has Dallas Cowboys and contention, and
then when the playoffs starts, the dack that you saw
in the regular season is not the dack that you're
getting the playoffs. If I'm the Dallas Cowboys, I'm a
pay Dak. I truly am gonna. I'm gonna pay him.
(37:35):
I just probably not gonna pay him what he wants.
I'm not giving I'm not making Dak Prescott the highest
paid quarterback.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
In the league.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
I'm not doing that because he You're gonna win twelve
games and then you're gonna lose in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
And that's just what has happened. Can Dak play? Yes?
Is Dak a good quarterback? Yes?
Speaker 5 (37:56):
If I'm Jerry Jones and the Cowboys, do I want
Dak on my team? Yes, But I'm not giving Dak
sixty million a year. Absolutely not. And that's not a
bad thing because the Dallas Cowboys had nine they had
eight All Pros last year, not including Dak. DA had
nine All Pros including Deck obviously eight All pros, eight
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the most of any team. And you lose a home
playoff game to a team and a quarterback making his
first start in the playoffs ever, first year as a starter.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
I'm proven.
Speaker 5 (38:34):
And the previous year you played at San Francisco forty
nine ers couldn't score play technique, I mean for all
tense purposes score but it was like didn't.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Matter, unproven quarterback. And so I'm not willing.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
To give you sixty million a year when I kind
of have an idea now what the results will be.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
That's just me mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
You know what, Man, the quarterback market right now whereas
currently at I don't really think that it's sustainable moving
forward now unless these TV revenues and you know, the
all this money that these teams are bringing in increases, uh,
you know, dramatically. And it's like you said, Dak's a
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good quarterback and Jerry Jones, I believe that he's really
pushed all his chips into the middle of table. I
really believe that, because there would be no excuse for
you know, the off season that they have without really
adding anybody to make this team a better football team.
But I do believe that they do have all the
pieces under the under this roof to get to get
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to a World Championship, and it's all going to come
down to what can Dak Prescott do. But I just
think that Jerry Jones in the place where you know,
he's giving out these big contract these large contracts you know,
in the past, and it hasn't really panned out, and
that hasn't resulted in bringing the Lombardy back to Dallas.
So I think with this whole CD Lamb situation, and
(40:10):
even with Dak Prescott, he saying, you know what, I'm
not rewarding or giving anybody any more money until I
see a dramatic improvement on this football team, at least
getting to an NFC Championship game or getting to a
Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
I believe if.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
They don't get it done this year, Dak Prescott will
not be the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys next year.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Mike McCarthy's is going to be fired.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
And I don't know what you're gonna do with CD
Lamb because it kind of seems like to me, he
don't want to make he doesn't want to compensate this
young man for everything that he's earned thus far. He
clearly deserves to be paid. And it just shows me that,
you know, what and it's reminded CD Lamb. I don't care, man,
how much they'd like it. You can be a great person,
hell of a person, but it's still a business at
(40:55):
the end of the day. So I think Jerry Jones
has said, listen, I'm not giving out these monster contracts
until I see my boys winning some football games and
put me in a position that win in another Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
Well, I think this is a monster show that we're
having right now with monster topics, So make sure you
guys stay tuned in for hour two. I'll just say
very quickly, they're in a bad situation in Dallas because
he can go get about fifty two, fifty three, fifty four,
fifty five, maybe even a little bit more than that.
So Rob, they don't have to pay that sixty million,
or shouldn't. It could be possible that they're gonna have
(41:33):
to pay somewhere close to it. We'll see how it
all plays out. It is two three guys, all right.
It's up on game Fox Sports Radio.
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