Up On Game Hour 1: The Big Ten Welcomes USC and UCLA

LaVar Arrington reacts to the huge news of USC and UCLA joining the Big Ten, and gives the perspective of a former Big Ten athlete on what the new opponents and regions could mean for players in the conference. James Jackson of Straight Facts Podcast puts the Eagles On Ya Head after Miles Sanders calls Philly an "all-star team." How will USC and UCLA fare in Big Ten football? Plus, LaVar examines what may happen next for the Pac-12.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, everybody, all right, how should a Big ten feel
about this? Major, major, major announcement? U s c U
c l A joining the conference on your head? We
got James Jackson of the Straight Facts podcast coming to you.
He's gonna talk about Philadelphia all right? Um? And how
will you I c U c l A. Um, how

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will they fair in the Big Ten? Want to talk
about that? What happens next for the Big twelve? What
school could be on the move? Next move? We'll discuss
all that and more. Hour one of On Game coming
at you. Now you want NFL experience, then this is

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the show for you. This is Up on Game with Labarreri, Ten,
t J. Hush Benzana and Plaxico Burres. Did you hear that?
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It's a show with three of the best to ever
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pro bowlers Lavarreri to t J. Houshman Sanna and Super
Bowl champion Plaxico Burus. All right, welcome Enda Up on Game.
T J and Flex are taking the weekend off. It
will just be me solo solo in it with my
man Ryan Bursers and I got my man junior up

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in man this top Mr Ramos and we got the
legendary eyes and going on if I may employed and
good to jump in with me for a little bit
as well. Uh, Happy Saturday to everyone out there. Hope
everybody isn't doing their weekend big show to get to today. Obviously,
the biggest, the biggest topic outside of the obvious of

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what's going on in Cleveland has been the announcement of
u C l A and usc UH making their bid
to go into joining the Big Ten conference. If you
want to check us out on the Twitter, make sure
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and at Fox Sports Radio. You can listen live to
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I appreciate all the affiliates out there that play our
show and show us a lot of love. Um yeah,
let's let's get to it. UH. Big announcement. Uh burr
sho do you have do you have a headline for me? Uh?

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On the Big Ten in the U S c U
U c l A joining the conference. Well, yeah, that's uh,
that's what happened. Just a couple of days ago. John
Wilner first broke the fact that there was rumors and
and and news that USC and U c l A
might leave the Pac twelve for the Big Ten as
soon as four and then later that night both of

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the schools themselves announced it, saying that yeah, they are
in fact joining the Big Ten. In yeah, I love this,
And I know there have been a lot of mixed
opinions about this. I mean, as a former Big Ten player,
for one, Uh, I love the conference. I love what
the Big Ten represents. The Big Ten has always represented

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the antithesis of what the Pack has has represented. You
go to the pack, you're looking for smaller guys, skill guys. Um,
it's more past heavy. I mean now nowadays past heavy
is everywhere, but it's just been largely considered more of
a skill driven, uh conference. Whereas when you look at

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the Big Ten. I've always said this, and I've always
made this discussion point that the Big Ten, from top
to bottom is probably the best conference in all the
college football. Now people will debate that and and be
up an arm about it. I I do believe the
SEC obviously is the most successful in the most dominant

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conference in all of college football. But I do believe
that the Big Ten in terms of parody, um, in
terms of the amount of teams that that could actually
challenge and make it interesting during the course of a season,
reside in the Big Ten. So to to say that
and then to think of the most one of the

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most historical, most traditioned UH programs in the history of
college football, with all the success that USC has had
um during during the course of time that that they've
been been around, it's it's kind of really unmatched and
and I'm I'm really excited about USC. I think of

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teams like obviously me being a Penn State, or the tradition,
the simplicity of the uniforms. The uniforms have never changed. Um,
It's it's just been something that has been a part
of a staple of of the program. UH. You think
of of the amount of success, and then you're taken

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you look at teams like Michigan and Ohio State in
Michigan State and those types of teams, amazing traditions, amazing
amazing cultures of Wisconsin is one of those teams. They
haven't changed their uniforms. They they they stay connected to
the tradition. Michigan they generally, well, they don't change their uniforms.

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They stay connected to the tradition. Iowa, they don't change
their uniforms. They stay connected to the tradition. Uh. You
look at all of these different teams. You look at
the northwesterns. Um, we've had new additions come in, you know,
with Rutgers and and with Maryland. Um. I just you know,

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I look at this one and I think it's more
impactful even then when when Maryland and and Rutgers came
into the Big Ten Conference. So for me, I've been
pretty excited about it. People ask me, well, what is
the reason why you feel the excitement about this move
taking place? For one, the pack, the Pack has an

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interesting schedule, all right, and and they their games air later.
A lot of times, the main games that you've watched
generally are are either finishing, concluding, or it's just a
one prime time game that you're watching, and it's it's
it's generally out of sight, out of mind. To watch

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Pack twelve teams and watch Pack twelve games. Now you
will find yourself looking for USC games. As of late,
I would say maybe because I live here, I do
find myself looking for U. C l A games. All right,
I think that that chip in in the in the
in the gang at U see al L have finally
started to turn a corner in terms of what type

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of team they're going to be and what direction they're
going in. I still think they have ways to go,
but you ultimately have to look at U. C l
A and and and also you have to look at us,
and you gotta say to yourselves, if they're moving into
the Big Ten in the next couple of years, they
have got to start getting bigger, stronger up front with

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the offense and the defensive fronts. That's going to be
imperative to to them being able to transition into a
conference that is it's a blood bath conference if you
do not have it, even with the current teams in
the Big Ten and including Penn State, if you do
not have the size and the strength to be able

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to hold off the size and the strength on the
other side of the ball, it can get ugly and
vice versa. When you do not have the guys up
front on the defensive side of the ball to hold
things up. It can get ugly and you get beat up.
It's a conference where I've always said, you do not

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see Big ten teams largely in part have a ton
of success in terms of the amount of teams because
there are losses that take place in the Big Ten.
And the reason why there are losses that take take
places because I believe that there is a lot of parity.
There is a lot of competitive parody in the Big
Ten conference. And so to me, this opens up the

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gateway to a larger audience that exists on the West
Coast and and in further out west in terms of viewership,
in terms of exposure, I would have loved to have
been playing and a Big ten conference that that gave
me the opportunity to play against USC once a year,
against u c l A once year. It's amazing market.

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It's number one, number two media market in in the country.
And it ultimately gives you an exposure to a different
group of people. So now people that would be watching
and paying attention to USC and U c l A
are now paying attention to a Penn state, are now
paying attention to an Ohio state, or in Illinois, or

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in Iowa or Wisconsin or Northwestern and I don't know
that that would be the case, uh if this weren't
to happen. Yes, you do have a tremendously large alumni
base all over the country. Since being here in in California,
I've I've experienced there being multiple bars that you can

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go to, sports venues that you can go to and
watch various Big Ten teams. They are Big Ten UH
labeled branded UH places to go watch. She Can is
very big on the west coast. Ohio State is big
on the west coast. Penn State is very big on
the west coast. So there are people here, fans here

(10:11):
that are locally engaged in what's going on with the
Big Ten. So I think that this is a great move.
I think that revenue wise, TV wise, I know things
have gotten kind of messed up with TV contracts with
usc U. C l A is fighting for relevance as
a football power. UM in college football. Keep in mind,

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this isn't just limited to football, right, so you're talking
about basketball as well, UH, most other sports. I think
it'll be interesting to see how it plays out on
the Hartwood with basketball. UM, I'm not sure Ryan, is
it is wrestling and volleyball and those different things. I
think it might just be sand beach sand volleyball that

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might not be included in the deal. But to think that,
you know, I wrested teams will be able to lock
horns or our volleyball teams. You know, Penn State women's
volleyball is one of the most amazing UM programs that
you could be a part of. You know, you see
how competitive some of these other programs are within the

(11:15):
Big Ten um which which they compete at at such
a high level. So this isn't just limited to football. Clearly,
this is a tremendously big move. UM. It'll be interesting
to see how much Lincoln Riley can get done with
us before they make this transition. But I like the move.
I think it's an exciting move. And you know, we'll

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continue to discuss UM as this show goes on. We
got up on your Head on your head coming up
in the next segment, and then we'll continue the conversation.
How will usc in u c l a fair in
the Big Ten in football? Uh, we'll touch on that.
We'll we'll touch on what happens next for the pact well,
because clearly this is a devastating move um for that

(12:01):
conference and what what that looks like for they're moving forward.
You're listening up on Game. I'm LaVar Arrington, t J.
And plex are taking the weekend off. Obviously it's a
holiday weekend, so I want those guys to enjoy their weekends. Uh.
We'll get through two hours and we'll have a good
time doing it. All right. On the other side of
this break, it'll be I'm on your head. We'll be
right back. All right, welcome back into the show. This

(12:27):
is up on Game. I'm LaVar Arrington, t J. Hutchman's
out of m Plexico Burr's have started there July fourth,
Independence vacation weekend. I'll be manning this this battleship by
myself for the day. Uh. But you know what what's
cool about this moment right now is I won't be

(12:48):
by myself because well, we're gonna get on your head
with a little bit on your head with my man
j J. James Jackson. If you're nasty, well listen because
I know I know a lot of teams made upgrade
this offseason and it's got some people hype, right, It's
got the fans hype and it looks like it's got
some players life too, because I heard a certain player
on the Eagles was calling his team an all Star team.

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So Miles Sanders, I'm on your head man, also all
Star team. Huh, as we say in Philly, man, that's
heavy talked to young ball, and I'm not sure at
the endge is yet see that for as all Star
team or super team. That really makes Eagles fans cringe.
Oversets two thousand and eleven and we all remember that season, right,
all the talent in the world and you end up

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going Shane keep baby, and I know that. I know
the Birds have won a Super Bowl since then, so
all us forgiven pretty much. But those words still create exceptations.
Exceptations Eagles can't even show over sometimes. So let's see
what they're got going on. Because I got a QB
with one playoff experience under his belt, a second year

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wide receiver, a second year head coach, all on and
off all on and offense was really one Pro Bowl
bag to combine. So I know we're lucky they playing
making financial fiel because Mars and trying to put his
money where his mouth is this season. Go go ahead
and call yourselves and all Star team if you want,
you man, it only raises the expectations for your team.
Let's really go and have less stellar season this season,

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and the Eagles running back is going to be running
that statement back. I don't know if I can let
it go get him calling him an All Star team.
I don't know if I can get back. I mean
they you know, can Kenna Mary Cooper stay healthy. I
think he'll have a tremendous uh impact on Philly. I
really think that Philly. I think that Philly can really

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be the dark course of the NFC East. I actually
have them winning the NFC East. I know a lot
of people are saying it's a foregone conclusion that Dallas
will will win uh the NFC East, But I honestly believe,
and I know this might be outrageous, but while while

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you're on Miles Sanders's head, which I gotta, you know,
take umbradge with on more than one you know, one
level for sure, um clearly because he's a Penn Stater,
I got, you know, I can't do you know, but
but you do know they did have I do believe

(15:22):
the number one rushing attack in the National Football League
last year, Um and I think that they did what
they needed to do to make improvements to be more
competitive within the division. And and so now I'm looking
at them, I'm like, look, I think that a lot
of teams got better. I think Washington got better. I

(15:44):
think the Commanders improved UM and they just made their
their receiver. You know, McLaurin a very very happy man
with a new contract. They added Wins. And while many
people may fault Wins and may may ridicule and and
scrutinize Carson Wentz, he he knows the the NFC East,
He's familiar with UM a lot of what's going on

(16:07):
in that that division. And and for what it's word,
I feel like this is his last opportunity to prove
that he can be a starting guy in the National
Football League games. So to me, I look at Philly,
I look at Washington and Dallas as that second tier team.
I do not look at uh the Giants as being
a competitive team this year. I think they made some

(16:30):
decent moves, but we already got one guy that that's
that's you know, the top draft under top draft picks
is already um, you know, getting getting adjustments. So and
I just don't know that Daniel Dimes is the guy.
But but I will say this, I do think that
Philly is prime to win the NFC East and possibly

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I don't think. I don't think super Bowl contenders, but
I do think at least competitive, more competitive than what
they've been. We'll talk about Jalen Hurts later on in
the show, but I do think that it's you know,
it's not a foregone conclusion to look at this team
and say you've got some all All Star caliber guys.
It might be a little bit overstated to say all

(17:12):
Star team. UM and and by the way, they do
have a history of having um, you know, high profile
athlete come out and say we have an all Star team.
You know that that happened before. Yeah, my reference comes
from it did happen before, and it did not go
um quite as well as planned. But I digress. I

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do think that I do think this Philly team will
be much improved from last season. James, and I don't
thought you on that. One thing they always have going
for them is the cowborldson for at some point in
the year. So I'm tired of just giving the Cowboys
division before the season starts, even if their team is
better on paper and then coping the end of this season,

(17:55):
it's not a foregone conclusion that their team it's better
on paper. You're right, the Eagle to the to improve
their team, and if the A. J. Brown train pans out,
they add, you know, a dynamic passing attack to what
you're right. It is already you know, you know the
number one rushing attack on paper in the NFL last season.
I just the reason I want to get on mild
stayers for that statement, and you hit it on the head.

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As we've heard the Eagles call themselves an all Star
team before before that collection of players has done anything,
And I just would like to reserve all Star team
or super team for those teams that are stacked improving.
Like you, you're you're right when the Eagles have a
bunch of all star caliber players on their team, but
last time I check, only one of them is actually

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gone to the Pro Bowl, and that's A. J. Brown.
So I love that there's a lot of promise on
the Eagles. I think they're trying to do something something good,
and just because they're a good team doesn't mean they're
an all star team. So I don't I don't think
they're gonna be a bad team. I just can we
reserve all Star team for all star teams? My only statement, yeah,

(18:59):
this is I mean, I'm with you there. It's a
tap bit strong to say all Star team strong. Okay,
so so then let me ask you this. If you're
because you sound like you're swaying too, they might be
an All Star team where then they do perform like, no,
I'm not I'm not sway hold on now, I'm not

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swaying towards saying calling them an All Star team. I'm
I'm not gonna like I said, I'm not gonna go
that far. But I do think that they have some really,
really good elements on both sides of the ball. I
think they upgraded on the offensive side of the ball.
I think they added uh to some stout players from
Georgia clearly that can help them on the defensive side

(19:42):
of the ball. I just think that they had a
sneaky good offseason. I don't know that it's a pronounced
um amazing offseason. I think it's a sneaky good offseason.
And like I said, we'll talk I'll talk about this
later on in the show. Jalen Hurts has to I'm
of age this season. If it's going to if it's

(20:02):
going to come together the way that it's supposed to
come together, it's going to have to be Jalen hurts
that that kind of starts to um, you know, really
really assert himself and in a much more uh pronounced manner,
a much more uh dominant manner than than what it
has been. But I think that he was on track
last year and and and I just have a feeling

(20:25):
that he will be better this season. And I think
MARII Cooper will play a major part of that. You
we've always heard of either a player a veteran player
of a certain caliber, whether it was Marvin Harrison and
and Marshall falk with with uh Peyton Manning, or you
have guys that that you know in these different you know,
Jerome Bettis and and and hinz Ward, you know, schooling

(20:49):
up Big ben as as a rookie, like I think
Amari Cooper has that type of understanding and maturity, um
understanding of the game, maturity for for what what it
takes to be successful. And I think that that's going
to be something that that helps them moving forward. They
got Jalen, He's going to be coming of age. You know,

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I just think that there is a lot of talent um.
They're not lacking talent in the positions that they need,
and they got better up front. I just think that
you gotta pay attention to to Philly. Yeah, and it's
got Miles exciting. Miles is super excited over So he's
looking around the room and he's seeing a prominent name

(21:32):
that each still position and he's not used to seeing that,
you know, from the D line to the defensive backfield,
the offensive backfield, wide receison corps, you know, even the
offensive line shot prominent names on. So he's he's definitely
looking around his squad and he's getting a little excited.
Just I'm a reserved the term All Star team now

(21:54):
and then I can give it to him. But I
can't let that slide, man, you know, I can't want this.
But I agree with you, man, and I appreciate that.
Everybody who just heard this segment, make sure you go
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(22:37):
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We got I mean, we got a lot of contract
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(22:57):
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going to be able to look at turtles the same

(24:02):
way ever again. People that might not understand that reference,
you know what I mean? Everybody to understand that reference.
It's kind of funny. Halo. Well, we your show does
have a podcast. A cup of Joe and two pros.
Friday Third Hour almost caused me to drive off the

(24:23):
one on one freeway because I was laughing so hard
it was pretty good. It was pretty good. You know.
I just I didn't think we would get that sort
of you know, a tune into LaVar, NFL analysis, football legends,
sports analysis. I didn't know how well verse you were in.

(24:45):
I put it the tortoise. Tortoise, Uh, tortoise relations, Yes,
relations will call it. Never gonna be able to look
at turtles the same way ever again. Are we got
some NBA news that had just come down ESPN report
in Cleveland Cavaliers all star guard Darius Garland has agreed

(25:07):
on a five year, one hundred ninety three million dollar
designated rookie contract extension that could wind up being worth
as much as two hundred and thirty one million dollars
in the NFL. Nothing like a salty Dan Snyder to
spice up a Saturday, as the embattled Washington Commander's owner
Dan Snyder has unloaded on the Washington Post. Today, the

(25:32):
newspaper LaVar published an article summarizing allegations made against Snyder
in depositions made to the House Oversight Committee. Well The
Post offered Snyder an opportunity to respond to the allegations,
and the Commander's spokesperson replied and I quote. Despite Mr
Snyder's continued apologies and regret for the historical problems that

(25:55):
arose at the team, the Washington Post goes out of
its way to a say his character and ignore the
successful efforts by both Dan and Tanya Snyder, together with
Jason Wright and coach Ron Rivera, for over the past
two years, to bring about a remarkable transformation to the

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organization unquote for the past two years. Huh. For the record,
Snyder's on the team for the past twenty three years.
On the Major League Baseball two games underway right now,
the Toronto Blue Jayson an RBI single by Vladimir Guerrero Jr.
I have a one nothing leader with the Tampa Bay
Rays on the top half of the second inning, and
the Cleveland Guardians and New York Yankees are scoreless in

(26:37):
the bottom of the second inning. Back to turtle expert
LaVar Arrington. Well, I'm glad you mentioned turtle expert because well,
what I want to do here. You're not gonna make
those noises again? Are you? Stop? You're doing it? Down?
Stop it? No, I'm not What do you mean? Where

(27:04):
did you learn this? Hey? Let me tell you something.
I got some of the weirdest knowledge. I love animals,
so I have weird Yeah, I have, Like I do
a lot of reading and a lot of watching. I'm
I'm a big national geographics person. Um, so I catch
you on to certain things sometimes and well that was

(27:25):
one of those things that was kind of funny. And
you know, if you if you ever YouTube uh tortoises
or or turtles, um, just just type in, you know,
this family, family friendly show. So just do it on
your own as sometimes just turtles um hanging out and
and you'll you'll get a good laugh out of it,
a nice a nice little chuckle. Ilo I'll say, you know,

(27:47):
it is what it is and and for what it's worth. Uh.
The Maryland Terrapists, Uh, they haven't fared very well, um
since they've come to the Big Ten. Since tooth out
in fourteen. Um, the the expansion year Maryland has been
thirty and forty nine, sixteen and forty one. Within the conference,

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it begs the conversation of how do how do I think?
How do how do people feel? USC? Will fare U
c l A will fare in the Big Ten conference? Um?
You know Rutgers has they've been the worst they've they've

(28:34):
gone they've only managed to muster ten wins UM in
the Big Ten. They they've gone twenty four and fifty
eight total record wise. It's interesting when you look at
the upper echelance teams. You would think that, okay, everybody
knows Ohio State, but then you would think that Penn
State and Michigan and Michigan State would be next in

(28:54):
line in terms of success. But it's not. And that's
what I think could be the most alarming aspect of
of all of this is there are teams that are
really really good in the Big Ten and they really
don't get kind of the shine that other schools get.
Wisconsin is actually second in Iowa is actually third. Wisconsin

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with forty four victories and fourteen losses UM sixty seven
and twenty two overall, and since two thousand and fourteen,
thirty nine and twenty one for Iowa and sixty and
twenty seven UM overall. Penn State comes after with six
thirty eight and twenty three into Big Ten. The interesting

(29:38):
thing is is even though the record has been better
for Wisconsin and Iowa, they have failed to post a
Big Ten title. So now you you get into the
next team's Penn State Michigan, Michigan State. Michigan State has
been able to win a Big Ten title alright, Michigan
UM this past season was able to find a lead

(30:00):
get a Big Ten title. UM Ohio State has a
ton of Big Ten titles, so it's interesting to think
Minnesota seems to be trying to go in the right direction.
Northwestern has been a team that has stayed above the
fray their thirty six and twenty four, fifty one and

(30:22):
thirty overall under UH Pat Fitzgerald. UH, he's done a
fine job with with that that program. UH. They didn't
have such a great year this past year, but they
have been very competitive and and have seemingly been going
through UM the process of becoming a more dominant program.

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But then now you get down to the bottom of
the deck. Right, Nebraska came in they were an expansion
team as well. They've done fair. Now they haven't. They're
not above five in overall wins or in the Big Ten,
twenty six and thirty four in the Big Ten, forty
and forty three overall. Maryland has been thirty abysmal thirty

(31:04):
and forty nine, sixteen and forty one. As I mentioned
earlier in Rutgers being fifty eight and only mustering ten
wins to to sixty one games, um and the Big Ten.
It just uh, it's not good and and and so
to me. And this is an article from I want
to say, Uh, this might be off by a year anyway,

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the publication that I used, it might not be all
the way, It might not be to day up to date.
So some of these numbers might be off by a
season or so. But the reality of it is is
that when I look at how they may fare in
terms of of their approach to the Big Ten, I
think it's going to be simply difficult for them to

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have success from the sheer standpoints of Logistically speaking, you're
talking having to fly across country the times the time
zone changes. Yes, for those who don't think that that
may play a part, it does. Um. And they would
have to be traveling probably more often. I mean, I
guess if you're talking halfway, half and half, they're traveling

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pretty far. Um. In terms of going to the different
different places to play, the weather is vastly different with
with Big ten teams versus a Pack twelve team uhh
and and and again, I I think that the lack
of familiarity. I know they play in the Rose Bowl.

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That's a one time game a year. I think it's
very different when you take a team that's used to
playing the style of football that's played in the Pack
versus the style of football that's played in the Big Ten.
Especially when the weather changes. It'll be interesting to see, Um,
what takes place on the other side of the break.

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The next discussion point is, well, you know, Ken, can
the pat twelve recover what happens next for the Pact twelve? Um,
we'll we'll talk about that and a little bit more.
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(33:18):
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(34:00):
into the show. Heading into our two, UM, I wanted
to quickly jump in. You're listening up on Game. By
the way, up on Game, I'm LaVar Arrington, uh t
J and PLEX are taking a weekend off. It's a
holiday weekend. I hope you guys enjoy your weekends. I
hope all of you enjoy your weekends out there and
have a safe UM holiday, UM celebration of of Independence. Uh,

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what happens next for the Pack twelve? What what schools
could be on the move next? You know, I'm I'm
not certain of what schools could be on the move next,
but I will focus in on the fact that I'm
looking at the Pack twelve and I say to myself,
you know, you have a team in Oregon who has
has been, you know, the highest winning team in in

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the conference. All Right, they're tied for first, interestingly enough
with Stanford, so the top two teams in the conference. UM.
During the past decade have been stamf an Oregon, which
I find to be very interesting. Stanford has been a
stable program um that has has really um established a

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sense of of winning on on a consistent level. Oregon
has has been up and down. But but they too
have been more of a dominant team through the last decade. UM.
But now they have a coaching change. There have been
coaching changes that have taken place in the pack. It's
interesting USC rounds it off, rounds it off at number

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three in terms of what they've been able to accomplish.
But what what really jumps out at me is that U. C.
L a Is is seventh. They are middle of basically
middle of the pack in terms of of the Big twelve.
Excuse me, the Pack twelve conference. Um, that's a tad bit,

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if you ask me, a tad bit alarming if you
are going into a a conference is as strong as
as the Big ten. And we we talked about and
if you missed any of it, make sure you check
out the podcast up on game podcast anywhere you get
your your podcast that you listen to. But the records

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of the top teams and the Big ten, it's it's
really not even very comparable to what these teams have
have done in the Pack twelve. Like U c. L
A Being at forty three and forty seven. That's a
forty seven point eight percent winning average. It's not very high,

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and I gotta say it's not very impressive. Now USC
different there they're at sixty one and twenty nine at
a sixty seven point eight percent um winning winning average.
But that's that's number three. That's number three. So it's
not even it's your you're talking about the two top teams.

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They're still in the Pact. Well, So if I were
to guess if another team or teams would possibly be
on the move, you know, I would say the first
team I would look at and think about would probably
be Oregon, and it would be because nothing more than
they are able to command attention as a university. UM

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I find that maybe Arizona State in Arizona will probably
stay put, look for Utah to possibly take a strong
step forward UM as these transitions take place. Not sure
where Washington State will end up. But all in all,
I think that the Pact weelve has been a a

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a conference that has underachieved on on many levels, many scales.
This certainly does not help the conference by any means,
any stretch of the imagination. The the USC Trojans move
the needle. We all know that, and now they're moving
to a new conference. So it'll be interesting to see
how that all plays out. But we'll be here to

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bring it to you when it happens. You're listening to
up on Game, I'm LaVar Arrington, Happy four for July weekend. Um,
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