Am I Racist?

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Auto Zone. Well, yesterday we talked a little bit about
this story, um, and it was a pretty crazy story.
And I'm gonna read some of this to you if
you missed it. But ESPN has turned into this far

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left wing social justice warrior network and as a result,
people who are reasonable with functional brains listen to this
show now who work at ESPN, and they read out
kick and they see the things going on, and they
send me a lot of stories about the absurdity that

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is ESPN. Well, on a couple of days ago, uh,
during Monday night football, Jamal Hill tweeted the following. Jamal
Hill is on the six o'clock Sports Center. Donald Trump
is a white supremacist who has largely surrounded himself with
other white supremacists. Trump is the most ignorant, offensive president

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of my lifetime. His rise is a direct result of
white supremacy period. The height of white privilege is being
able to ignore his white supremacy because it's of no
threat to you. Well, it's a threat to me. And
things such as Donald Trump is a bigot, glad you
could live with voting for him. I couldn't because I

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cared about more than just myself. Trump is unqualified and
unfit to be president. He is not a leader, and
if he were not white, he never would have been elected.
All of those things were sent by Jamal Hill during
Monday night football. ESPN yesterday issued a statement basically saying

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that while they believe her comments are inappropriate, they are
gonna do nothing to her. And look, I'm a First
Amendment absolutist. I think you should be able to say
whatever you want. Well, in the wake of that ESPN comment,
lots of people at ESPN we're furious because in a

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story that OutKick broke yesterday evening after my hit on
Tucker Carlson on Fox News, you happen to see that
I was on at eight o'clock Eastern as the lead
story on Tucker Carlson's show last night on Fox News.
Linda Cone, who has been at ESPN, for longer than

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just about any woman ever. I think the longest woman
on air in the history of ESPN. I believe I'm
correct about that. Linda Cone back in late April, went
on a local New York radio station and said that
one reason she believed that ESPN's ratings were collapsing and

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they are collapsing, and one reason why their business was
collapsing and it is collapsing, was because they had gotten
too political. Not really that controversial of an opinion. Lots
of you out there listening to me right now are like, yeah,
I'm sick of hearing about Colin Kaepernick and Michael Bennett

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and all these other ridiculous favorite stories of ESPN. So
Linda Cone went on and said, you know what, I
think one reason we are getting losing our audience is
because we've lost our core because we've become too political.
As a result, the president of ESPN called Lynda Cone,

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this is a story that I broke it out. Kick
called Lynda Cone, screamed at her and told her not
to come to work that next weekend. So ESPN suspended
Linda Cone for saying that the network had become too political,

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but they didn't do anything at all. Did Jamal Hill
when she said that Donald Trump was a white supremacist,
that his crew that voted for him were bigots, and
when she said that the only reason he got elected
president was because he was white. She also said, and

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this is probably the craziest of all of the comments,
and I'm reading direct from her tweets, donald Trump is
a white supremacist who has largely surrounded himself with other
white supremacist Now. I'm not an expert on Donald Trump's cabinet,
but I know there's a black guy named Herman Kane

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in that cabinet, right, I don't think that he is racist.
I know that Nicki Haley is also in that cabinet
as member of the u N. I don't think that
she is racist. I don't think that, when you really
break it down, Elaine cho Cho is racist. She's a

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member of the cabinet. I don't think that the president
whose son in law is Jewish and whose grandchildren are
Jewish is a white supremacist. You can criticize Donald Trump
for a lot. God knows that in politics there is
always a huge number of people that can be criticized

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for any number of ridiculous comments. But this by Jamal Hill.
Is there anybody out there listening right now who thinks
it makes sense that Linda Cone is suspended? And this
is what has driven everybody at ESPN crazy, including lots
of people on their way into Bristol right now who

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are listening to us on satellite radio. Is there anybody
out there right now who can make a legitimate argument
for why that should be the standard that's at play,
Jamal Hill? This is this kind of ties in with
my my thesis in general. Jamal Hill is one of
fifty nine people followed by Bob Iger, the CEO of Disney,

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and John Skipper, the president of ESPN, sings her praises
left and right. Why because I believe that John Skipper
and Bob Iger have the exact same politics as Jamal Hill,
And so there isn't right now and even handed treatment
of political opinions in sports. Kurt Schilling got fired for

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saying the North Carolina bathroom law didn't make sense on
his private Facebook page. Doug Adler got fired because he
said guerrilla effect during a Venus Williams tennis match. Mike
dick Ka got fired because he said he thought Barack

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Obama was a bad president, and he was voting for
Donald Trump. Running through all of these stories over and
over and over again is a common threat in the
sports media. If you want to be a left winger,

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you get rewarded, praised, and promoted. If you say anything
remotely conservative, you get fired. It's not a marketplace of
ideas where everybody has the right to say exactly what
they think. If you out me, imagine that a white

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person had said about Barack Obama during his presidency the
only reason he got elected was because he's black. What
do you think happens? Then? How quickly would every white
person who said that get fired? What about if a
white person had said something equivalent to he's a white supremacist,

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which is just not true. There are lots of things
you can criticize Donald Trump for. That's not one of them.
What if a white person had said something that's blatantly
not true about Barack Obama, like he's a Muslim, or
it's not true, or question whether or not he was
born in the United States, immediately fired by ESPN. Right,

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But when you go on and call all of his
supporters bigots, and when you call him a white supremacist,
and when you say that not only is he a
white supremacist, but everybody around him is a white supremacist
as well. Nothing happens to you at all, but woe
unto you if you have the gall the temerity, or

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the audacity to say something is outlandish, as ESPNS ratings
are plummeting because they've gotten too political, because then you
get suspended like Linda Cone, the longest serving on air
woman in the history of ESPN did. And that difference

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in treatment between Jamal Hill getting no punishment, nobody even
saying anything to her, and Linda Cone getting suspended has
many people at ESPN up in arms such that they
reached out to me to break another story about how
absurd the situation has become at ESPN in general, and

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at ESPN in general, UH, and in the sports media
in a larger context. I'm gonna open up the phone
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This is also funny as we unpacked this absurdity about
the way that sports media allows people to be far
left wing but not even remotely say anything conservative. Colin
Kaepernick broke along silence and said tweeted last night, right

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before I went to sleep, we are with you at
Jamal Hill. So Colin Kaepernick thinks the presidents of white
supremacists too, and he thinks all of you are biggots
who voted for Donald Trump for president, including all the
people in minorities in his cabinet. Like I said, large
list of people who are minorities in Donald Trump's cabinet,

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huge list of people out there in the world at
large who are minorities that voted for Donald Trump, whether
you're talking about Ben Carson, whether you're talking about Elaine Show,
whether you're talking about Nicki Haley, whoever you're talking about
that you want to in his cabinet. All the Jewish people, uh,
that would probably be a surprise to them that they
are huge white supremacists, as well as the tons of

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black voters, Asian voters, Hispanic voters who also voted for
Donald Trump, as well as the vast majority of Donald
Trump's voters in general. The reason why Hillary Clinton lost
this election in the Big ten States when you break
it down, was because a lot of Barack Obama voters
in two thousand twelve flipped over and voted for Donald

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Trump in two thousand sixteen. Probably come as a shock
to those guys, mostly men, mostly white men in the
Midwest who voted for Barack Obama in two thousand twelve,
that they became huge racists in the four years between
voting for a black person to be president and instead
voting for a white person. Huge racist in two thousand twelve,

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you voted for Barack Obama two thousand sixteen, ably, a
lot of people who are listening to me right now
voted for Donald Trump. You're all racist, You're all awful
human beings, and Jamal Hill believes that you're all bigots.
It seems like a bad move if you are in
a business of trying to appeal to everybody. And oh,
by the way, talk about sports for a living. Um

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all right, Uh, let's bring in a variety of calls
eight seven, seven, six, three six nine, And again people say, oh,
you talk about politics and sports all the time. No,
I don't not really um in in the grand scheme
of things. I don't like aggressively come out and say, hey,
you need to vote for insert Canada here or insert
candidate there. I think I'm right down the middle. But

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my issue is not with talking about sports, uh and politics.
My issue is if you have the right to say
one thing, then you should have the right to say
another thing. If Linda Cone is gonna get suspended for saying,
you know what, I don't think it's smart for ESPN
to talk about politics, then how in the world can
Jamal Hill be allowed to use her platform at ESPN

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to say that Donald Trump is a white supremacist. Let's
go to William and Cincinnati. What's up, William, Hey, can
you hear me? Yeah? I got you, Okay, Yeah, we're here.
Here's maybe the issue. I didn't hear exactly what you said,
but maybe she got suspended because she criticized SPN and
Jamal Hill didn't. So you think you think that it's okay,

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you can make that distinction if you want to. You
think that it's not appropriate to say, hey, we should
talk less politics at ESPN. I think that's offensive. No, no, no,
it's no. It may not be offensive, but it may
be offensive to the person that is programming the station.
So you think if you were, if you were, if
you were making a decision though, like I I understand

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that argument. But if let's pretend you're the head of ESPN.
If I told you that one person was going to
say that Donald Trump, the President of the United States,
a white supremacist, that his voters are bigots, that his
entire cabinet is old with white supremacists as well. Um,
and the other person was going to say, you know what,
maybe we shouldn't talk as much politics because we're alienating

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some of our core. Which of those two people, if
you were going to suspend somebody, would you personally suspend
If if my job is to program, and my job
is to program the show and to put the content
that I want on the show, I would suspend Linda

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Calm because she's undermining what I She's undermining my job. Okay,
I appreciate the call. I think that's I think that's
absolutely ludicrous. I don't think Linda Cone hurts your brand
at all when she says that. I think she speaks
what the vast majority of the population agrees with. And
if you're going to allow somebody to get political, saying
I don't think we should get political is like literally

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the least political you can possibly get. I think we
should focus on doing sports instead of saying that we
think Donald Trump is and is. That's what's crazy, right,
Like Linda Cone could get suspended for saying she doesn't
agree with Jamal Hill getting political, but Jamal Hill getting political,
insanely left wing political. She gets rewarded. What about if

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you want to go along that argument. Why is Kurt
Schilling not allowed to say that he thinks the North
Carolina transgender bathroom law exists, but Jamal Hill is allowed
to say that Donald Trump is a white supremacist. Why
is the worst person who got screwed the most here?
Think about this. Our guy Doug Adler who we had
on the show, who called the Venus Williams tennis match

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and said that, uh, that that that if you remember
that match, said that there was a guerrilla effect, meaning
guerilla warfare during a Venus Williams match. He gets fired.
But Jamal Hill says the presidents and anti uh, basically
a white supremacist and everybody around him is also a

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white premisist and his voters are bigots, and nothing happens
to her. It's crazy. Justin and Virginia. What's up? Justin?
Heay Clay? Um, I was ever listening on your interview
last night with Tucker and I thought it was a
great interview. You don't want to congratulate this, congratulates you
for that, and um on this issue, Um, it's kind

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of interesting to watch the est and self destruct. Uh,
because this deal with Jamil here, it's just ridiculous. Um.
It kind of reminds me of he is a double
standard going on, because you've got you know, Chris Brussard
when he used to work for NSTN. He spoke up
when I can't think of the homosexual basketball player's name,
but he spoke up and said he didn't agree. What's that?

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And he gets reprimanded. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, he said
that his religious faith meant that he did not believe that.
I think it was I don't remember who the black
basketball player was, Jason Collins, that's right. Um and uh.
And Chris Brussard came out and said, you know what,
I don't think he's a hero because he decided to
come out and say you is gay. You know, in

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my religious faith tells me that being gay is wrong. Like,
I don't agree with Chris Brussard um personally, but I
certainly don't have an issue with him having that opinion.
I think that's crazy. Um, absolutely crazy. Let's go to
appreciate the call justin. Let's go to David in Kalamazoo.
What's up, David? Yeah, can you hear me? Yes, Okay, yeah,

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you know, I think you know, she's kind of out
of order for the saying all that, you know, and um,
Linda Collin, I can see how they you know, they
kind of you know as an employer. You mean she
directly attacked estn Um. I don't. I don't understand. Like
if I come on here and I say, you know
what I think, I'm not I'm not, no, no, but

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but I'm just saying, like if I come on right
now and say, you know what I think Fox Sports
makes it makes an error when they have a show
that goes all in on let's say Michael Bennett being
a hero, right. I think that's a bad move for
Fox Sports in general. Are you is out there gonna
be like Clay Travis should get suspended for that? Well? No, No.
What I'm getting at there is there's there's a double

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standard the other way. I mean, like if Barack Obama
had access Hollywood videotape police of him, were you're saying
he's tissing women and grabbing him by the you know what,
I don't think America is gonna vote for him. Do
you agree with me? There? I don't know I don't know.
I mean, I think black people still would have I mean,
I don't think that Barack Obama would have gotten elected
president if he were not black, right, I think that's true.

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I think if Hillary Clinton, thanks for the call. I
think if Hillary Clinton had been a black woman, she
would have gotten elected president. People say, oh, my god,
you can't say that really. I mean, look at the
voting roles. Millions of black people who voted for Barack
Obama in two thousand twelve did not vote for Hillary
Clinton in two thousand six Did they suddenly become a

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racist by not coming out and voting for Hillary Clinton?
Because on the one hand, they were voting for people
for Barack Obama and massive numbers based on their race. Right,
by and large, there was not much difference between Hillary
Clinton and Barack Obama. So if you voted for Barack
Obama in two thousand twelve and then you chose to

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stay home and not vote in two thousand sixteen, then
Barack Obama's race added a huge number of votes to him.
What is it when you choose how you're going to
vote based on the race of the person that you're
voting for. That's called racism. Right, So I think there
are racists who voted for Donald Trump, but I also

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think there were racists who voted for Barack Obama. I
got a crazy idea for you. Only white people can't
be racist in this country. So when I look at
this data, like, I think, you know, if you're gonna say, oh,
Donald Trump got elected by white supremacist, which is what
Jamal Hill said, then can't you say that Barack Obama

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got elected by black supremacists? Because there were a lot
of black people who showed up to vote for Donald
for Rock Obama who didn't show up to vote in
And I tend to think that racist people have been
voting throughout you know, like it's not illegal to be racist. Sucks.
I think it's lazy. I think it's ridiculous to judge
somebody based on the color of their skin about whether
or not they're good at something or bad at something.

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And I if you listen to this show regularly, know
that I hate dumb people, and so being racist offends
me for the stupidity of it, because you're immediately dismissing
somebody in the same way that saying, oh, Southern people
are stupid would offend me. Not offend me. I don't
particularly care what you think. But a lot of people
are like, oh, Clay Drivis from Tennessee, he's stupid. I

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had heard that my entire life all over the country.
Grow up in the South, go to the east or
west coast of the country. There's a lot of discrimination
against people from the South. They think we're dumb. I
think we're not very smart. They think we're backwoods. But
that's just lazy. Why would you assume because of where
somebody grew up that they're dumb. Why would you assume

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that because of somebody's race their inferior in some way.
The thing is, racism exists everywhere. White people can be racist,
Black people can be racist. Hispanic people can be racist.
Asian people can be racist. In this country, we tend
to do what Jamal Hill does, which is assumed that
only white people can be racist. And that's a fundamentally
broken system. Let's go to let's see here, who should

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go to? Jason Martin, David and Kalamazoo. You just talked
to David. I just talked to David and Kalamazoo. Well, good, good.
I appreciate David and Kalamazoo calling Uh, Chase and St. Paul.
There we go, Chase and St. Paul? What's up? How
you doing? Can you hear me? Yeah? I got you? Yeah,
I want to. I mean, I definitely agree that not

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only white people can be racist. And I personally am
also very sick of the stories, uh the whole Kilin
Kaepernick and the Michael Bennett story that's getting really stale.
But um, what that woman tweeted was that Trump has
largely surrounded or so himself with with racist cabinet members.
And I think in the most part that's true, that's
not remotely true. Name somebody who's racist in his cabinet

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or the most glaring one would be Jeff Sessions. From
Jeff Sessions right now before, He's not He's not, he's not,
He's not racist. He got rid of he he has
a history of being racist going back to the eighties
when he was a federal prosecutor. You go look at
his history that Look, look, I appreciate you calling in
to debate about Donald trump cabinet members being racist. Let's

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assume that Jeff Sessions is racist. Okay, that's one person.
Who else he dropped after I guess he thought you
were done there. Um, So even if you assume, like
I'll give you Jeff Sessions all right, Jeff Sessions is
a huge KKK member. It's not true he rides around
all day in his white suit. Uh, he's a huge racist.

(24:48):
Give me a second one. Is it all the Jewish
people in his cabinet? Is it the Asian woman? Is
it the black guy? Is it the uh mixed race
Asian woman who's in charge of being the u N representative? Like,
it's a stupid comment that isn't supported by any factual data.
The vast majority of Donald Trump's surrounding advisors and cabinet

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are not white supremacists. It's a really dumb comment that
is not supported by any factual basis in history. So
that's again. I don't mind people getting political, but when
you say things politically that are incredibly dumb and aren't
supported by any of the evidence, then you should get
lit up. And ESPN shouldn't be endorsing what you're saying,

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effectively by saying, oh, that she shouldn't have said it,
but then giving absolutely no punishment. Meanwhile, if you're Kurt Schilling,
you think that the North Carolina transgender bathroom law is dumb, which,
by the way, a ton of you listening right now do.
Then you get fired. If you are Doug Adler and
you go on a freaking tennis match and you use
the phrase guerilla effect during a match that features Venus Williams,

(25:59):
you get hired. If you're Mike Dicka and you come
out and say you don't think Barack Obama has been
a very good president and you're supporting Donald Trump, you
get fired. Like there's a whole list of people at ESPN.
In fact, we'll talk to Britt McHenry an our three here,
and I think she's gonna tell you that among all
the people who got laid off, when they looked around,
they said, my god, ESPN is cleansing the company of

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conservatives and only allowing liberal people to be promoted here.
That's why I call him MS ESPN eight seven s
six nine. Let's go to Eddie Garcia, bringing him into
the fire. Um and uh my man, the Indians hit.
They win. How impressive is that? Historically? Well, it's tied

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for the all time consecutive wins record in American League history,
tied with the two thousand into Oakland A's Indians shutting
out the Tigers to nothing last night for that twenty
consecutive victory. Corey Kluber gets a complete game shut out,
his sixteenth win of the year. That's tied for the
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Ale Central title is down to five. Dodgers clinched the
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Clayton Kirscha gets his seventeenth win of the year and
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eight shut out endings. He's now two and oh since
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this Sunday, despite the effects of Hurricane Irma to Tampa
Bay and Jacksonville. The Bucks are gonna host the Bears
and the Jags will host the Titans. And Clay, I
know you were keeping an eye on this game. Uh

(27:47):
is Tennis Tennessee at Florida in Gainesville and they have
announced that game will be played as scheduled. Outstanding. Yeah,
it's a big game that is going to go on.
Also that there were a couple of games again announced
right um, that are gonna take place in the state
of Florida, which is good news as Florida starts to recover.
Tennessee Florida which is a massive SEC game and Jags Titans.

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in North Carolina. What's up, Bubba? Hey? How's it gonna play? Dream?

(28:54):
I was just hey, I was just calling. Uh. I
thought a pretty good comparison with ESPN was the fact that,
I mean, I know he's back now, but quite a
few years ago. Fire and Hank Jr. For his inflammatory
remark about President Obama. That's a great point. Jamal Hill
is okay to say this. It's kind of it's really

(29:14):
it shows how pandrian they are, you know. Yeah, No,
it's a good point. I mean, Hank Williams Jr. Says
something they don't like about Barack Obama. He gets fired.
As soon as Obama is no longer president, they decide, oh,
you know what, we'll give an alid branch to conservatives,
will bring back Hank Williams Jr. For Monday Night Football. Uh.
Jamal Hill says things that are worse than what Hank
Williams Jr. Said, and she has absolutely no impact to her.

(29:35):
That's because one's talking about a liberal, the others talking
about a conservative. Uh, you know, that's the that's the difference.
There is no even handed treatment of political speech here.
George and Amarillo. What's up, George, Good morning, Clay. I
love sports, by the way, but I hate the I
hate the fact that maybe a certain segment of society,
who they used to play the victim card their whole existence, uh,

(29:58):
you know, still use it today, even after we've done it.
We have, you know, with Barack Obama been president, and
with you know, females and and everything, all these advancements
away from white supremacy, you know, in the thirties and
the forties. It's incredible that ESPN would let them do it.
And I understand, I'm a huge First Amendment guy like yourself.
But look, I was telling Justin I felt dirty watching

(30:20):
football Sunday night. I had to do it on the ESPN.
I don't watch him anymore. I can't stand the politics anymore.
Sports should not sports and politics should be a little
bit of hand to hand. Because of course, here's Muhammad
Ali and some other figures, but these people like Jesse
Jackson and Sharpen are getting old and these people are
trying to fill that boyd. I think Kaepernick is not

(30:40):
a stupid guy. You know, the guy scored a high
forty in the Wonder leg and that's one of the toughest.
I don't know if you've ever taken a wonder leg.
Kaepernick is not a stupid guy. He knows what he's doing.
And it's just crazy that society is letting them get
away with it. You're not letting them get away with it.
But I hope that like me, I didn't. I didn't
reap my NFL package. I'm not football on the sp anymore.

(31:01):
The NFL is pretty much done. Like I said, I
felt dirty, and I hope that there are more people
that are gonna do that. And the only way to
show ESPN and I was doing those guys what's really
up is to take money out of their pockets and
maybe they'll learn. Yeah, I appreciate call it. Business is collapsing.
Business is collapsing. And I say, look, if you want
to get political, you have to treat everybody the same.
If Kurt Schelling can't have an opinion about the North

(31:23):
Carolina transgender bathroom Bill. Then how in the world can
Jamal Hill go on and say everybody is a total
white supremacist in Donald Trump's cabinet and all of his
supporters are bigots and all of these things and actually
not have any significance put against her at all. Let's
go to Samuel in San Antonio. What's up, Samuel? Hey,

(31:44):
I was gonna, um, you know, I'm I'm sitting there
and you know, a very good conversation. First of all,
you know all the way around it. And I just
got one of your time in about Mail Hill making
a comment about you know, Donald from being elected by
racist you know, and in Barack Obama. I guess, I
guess having me and and there is chief in the

(32:06):
state that you made about Barack Obama being elected on
the basis that he you know, by black people. Uh.
And obviously he wasn't only voted in by black people,
because I voted for I voted for him in two
thousand and eight and two thousand and twelve for Barack Obama.
But my point is, like there's a huge, huge number
of people out there who are black that showed up

(32:27):
and voted for Barack Obama that did not show up
and vote for Hillary Clinton. So they were willing to
vote for somebody who had the same color skin as them,
but they did not show up to vote for somebody
who was a white woman. Well, if black people had
voted at the same rates, right, Hillary Clinton and Barack
Obama had virtually the identical platforms. If black people had
shown up and voted at the same rate for Hillary

(32:48):
Clinton that they voted for Barack Obama, she would have won.
This election wouldn't have been close, right, it didn't happen.
So why did those black people who voted for Barack
Obama in two thousand twelve choose to stay home in
two thousand sixteen and not go vote for Hillary Clinton.
I think part of it had to do with the race.
They voted for Barack Obama because he was the same
race as her as them, They did not vote for

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Hillary Clinton because she was not the same race as them. Well,
what would we say about somebody who chose not to
vote because their race was different or because their race
was the same they chose to vote. That is motivated
behavior by race, which is wait for it, racist, and
yet nobody points it out. Okay, well, and and saying

(33:30):
that here here Here's the thing I myself, I I
don't disagree with the fact that Barack Obama was voted,
voted for, and and the turnout for black folks went
up exponentially. Now, two things that Barack Obama gets get
in the office, the the the force situation, economically historically

(33:53):
bad situation that he inherited. Yeah, look, you can come
in and make it. You can come in. Hold on,
you can come in and make what like I'm gonna
have to let you go that your argument is not
that interesting. The data is when you look at it,
there were tons of black people who voted for Barack
Obama in two thousand twelve that did not show up
to vote for Hillary Clinton in Why did those people
not show up? They were motivated when there was a

(34:15):
black candidate. They were not motivated when there was a
white candidate. If you were motivated based on the race
of a candidate to show up and vote, that is racism.
You are changing your behavior based on the race of someone.
Did Donald Trump bring out more racist white voters than before, No,
the data doesn't reflect it. Did Barack Obama bring out

(34:36):
more racist black voters? Yes, the data reflects it. If
those same voters had shown up and voted for Hillary Clinton,
who had the exact same policies in place as Barack Obama,
then she would have been elected president. The only distinction
that I can find between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton,
other than the fact that Obama is a better politician

(34:57):
and maybe more likable, is that Hillary Clinton was white
and she got less votes from black people. Let's go
to Matt and Phoenix. Matta and Phoenix, what's up? How
are you doing this morning? I just wanted to say
that if anybody got screwed in this deal, it was
definitely coached DIKA, because he was fired for criticizing the president,

(35:18):
and this lady has had nothing happened to him for criticizing.
In fact, I believe that Trump, I mean, I'm sorry,
I believe that DICKA might even have a discrimination claim
against ESPN. Yeah, you know, I think I think it's
pretty fascinating. Thanks for the call, um, just the degree
to which, and it's not just by the way people
in sports. I think about how Tom Brady got ripped

(35:39):
for just being friends with Donald Trump. Think about how
everybody ripped Bill Belichick for writing a letter the night
before the election endorsing Donald Trump. You can't even say
that you voted for Donald Trump. Is there a single
person that works at ESPN that is out there publicly
saying they voted for Donald Trump. I don't think there's
one person. Tell me how that's fair and balanced. Tell

(36:03):
me how that's giving everybody the right to have their
statement and their politics out there evenly. I don't think
there's a single person who works at ESPN that has
publicly said they voted for Donald Trump. Not one. It's crazy. Uh,
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(38:34):
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the week that was in the NFL. As Brothers on
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what he thought of that performance between the Chiefs and
the Patriots. But right now we're reacting to what is
a ridiculous story. Jamal Hill at ESPN dot com says
that Donald Trump is a white supremacist. All of his

(38:56):
voters or bigots. He surrounded himself with a cabinet full
of mostly white supremacist uh. And there is absolutely no
punishment whatsoever for her out kick broke the news last
night that Linda Cones says maybe ESPN should be less political.
I think that's hurting us, and she gets suspended. On
top of that, Kurt Schilling gets suspended and or and

(39:18):
then fired for saying that, guess what, he doesn't think
the North Carolina transgender bathroom law makes sense. Mike Dicka
fired for saying that he doesn't think that Barack Obama
has been a good president and then showing the door
when he says he's gonna vote for Donald Trump. Our
guy Doug Adler gets fired for saying guerilla effect during
a Venus Williams match. But Jamal Hill can say whatever

(39:42):
she wants about the President and also his supporters and
his voters, which happens to be at least half of
all ESPN viewers. I went on Tucker Carlson last night.
I think did a pretty solid job of pointing out
that ESPN's business model is collapsing. Because if vote Republican,
ESPN thinks you're an awful human being. That's essentially what

(40:05):
has happened with their brand. I think it's insane. My
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(41:09):
about satellite radio. I want to tell you guys on
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(41:29):
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satellite radio again as well. Can't tell you the station
yet that we're gonna be on, but just know that

(41:49):
that is moving towards a resolution and that we will
be back all of the show on satellite radio right now,
the first half hour is the only thing that's on
on the Fox Sports Radio show, which has only been
on the case for like the last ten days or so.
Let's bring in John Campbell. John Campbell at Johnny Odd
Shark on Twitter. John Campbell, what do you think? Man?

(42:11):
Let's start in college football. Um, we got a massive
game going on between Clemson and Louisville. I'm on Louisville. Uh.
The line I think is around two and a half
right now that Clemson is favored. If Clemson wins this game,
I think they're gonna go twelve and oh in the
regular season. What say you? Do you agree this is
the biggest college football game? Yeah? I agree it's the

(42:33):
biggest one. But I do not agree with you on Louisville.
I'm all right, you can lose. I'm on Clemson, and uh.
I still think there's a lot of value in this team.
And I thought this was a pretty smart line. I
thought the line would be a little bit lower. But
I just love the way Clemson's defense is playing right now,

(42:54):
and uh, and they're they're scoring points to it. I
don't think they mind what game you want to play.
They'll beat you either. Way, and I think they're a
little bit undervalued in this one. There only is one
other Top twenty five matchup this weekend in college football,
and it's Tennessee against Florida. This is obviously a game
that I know a lot about because I've been watching
Tennessee play Florida basically as long as I could breathe um.

(43:16):
And this is a massive game for people who care
about SEC football. But it's maybe not a good game
because I'm not sure that either Tennessee or Florida are
very good. When you look at this game, there's been
a lot of uncertainty about where it was gonna be played.
The latest line I believe is Tennessee is around a
four and a half point underdog in this game. The

(43:36):
line actually opened at eight on bet online off shore.
I got it immediately, and so I still like Tennessee
here because I but I like to under more than
anything else. I don't think there are many points are
gonna be scored. I think one team is gonna win
twenty seventeen over the under over the other. I like
Tennessee to cover regardless, but I really like the under
even better. What about you? Yeah, where we're on the

(43:58):
exact same page here with all of it. I don't
know how good a game this will be. So I
think it's too many points, even with the line coming down,
and and I think this total is way too high.
I think it's gonna be definitely lower than than forty
nine and a half or whatever line you get it
at there. I low scoring game. I don't know how
entertaining it's going to be. Okay, the other big game

(44:19):
I would say going on in college football, we're talking
to John Campbell. Can check them out at odd shark
dot com for all your gambling informational related needs. UM
Texas USC a rematch of what it was, a classic, iconic,
maybe the best game I've ever watched in my lifetime.
Vince Young scores on fourth down to win Texas the
national championship in the Rose Bowl. They're now back in

(44:39):
l A, playing this time in the Collegeseum. First sellout
in four years for USC. I saw announced late last
night on Twitter, and USC is around a fifteen or
sixteen point favorite over Texas, which is still looking its
wounds over that opening game loss. I think USC is
gonna run rough shot over Texas. I just think that

(45:00):
They're a lot better team. What about you, John Campbell? Yeah,
I agree, and I think people were quick to dismiss
USC after having a tough time, and they're opener against
Western Michigan and they show what they can do last
week against Stanford. Texas can't play defense. They still can't
play defense. So that is why I like USC. Here.

(45:20):
The only reason I'm a little bit cautious about this
game is Stanford might have been the toughest game on
USC's packed twelve schedule here and there might be a
little bit of a letdown factor in this one. Uh
So that's the only reason why I worry about the
points play. I do think USC should kill them. What
do you think about in the NFL? Here? I mean,
the NFL is notoriously difficult to gamble. I love the

(45:41):
gamble on college football. I think the NFL is so
much tougher to me personally. And I'll give you an example.
The three highest rated quarterbacks of the entire Week one
this is according to QBR were amazingly Alex Smith. I
don't think anybody would have seen Alex Smith outperforming Tom
Brady like he did. I don't think anybody would have
seen and Sam Bradford performing like he did. He was

(46:02):
flawless just about in the opener for the Vikings and
number three whole maybe even the least likely of all
of them, Jared Goff against the Cults was flat out phenomenal.
What do you like the most? As we come into
NFL week too? Who do you like the best? John Campbell? Well,
I like a couple of totals, And what I like
is the under in Minnesota Pittsburgh under forty five and

(46:25):
a half. I think the two good defenses there and
two teams that that I think are gonna have troubles scoring.
The other one I like is over fifty three and
a half with Green Bay Atlanta. The last ten Talkins
games have gone over and they're coming off the best
overseason we've ever seen in NFL history. So a couple
of totals I like. And if you're looking at a side,

(46:46):
I don't know how the Seahawks don't destroy the Niners.
I know they're big favorites at fourteen or thirteen and
a half. That tends to scare some people in the NFL.
But the Niners could get shut out in this one
Thursday night. Uh, They're they've The Texans have announced that
Deshaun Watson is starting now at quarterback. The Tom Savage
era lasted all of a half. They're going on the

(47:08):
road against the Bengals. The Bengals maybe the worst team
in Week one, and Cincinnati is nearly a touchdown favorite.
What do you see in this one? Well, I lost
all faiths in the NFL's ability to fix a game
last week by not letting Houston win that one at
home against Jacksonville. So this game has me a little
bit confused this week. But like you said, with quarterback performances,

(47:31):
it's so hard to predict here, and I think Houston
is doing the right thing making a switch. So I
think I like Houston with the points. I don't think
Cincinnati is very good. I think they've been on a
downhill slide here there, they're going to be in season
two of a downhill slide here, and I think they're
laying too many points. All right, last question for you,
I don't think I even asked you. Did you have
a favorite college bet? Was there something that that really

(47:53):
kind of jumped out at you on this roster? Well, one,
I like I like Old Miss minus three and a
half at Cal ole Miss has an amazing passing game
and Cow's past defense is just terrible. So I think
they're gonna win that one easily. I don't think three
and a half enough. I actually like that play too.
I'm going to add it to my to my list
of plays as well. John Campbell, we talked to you

(48:15):
every single Wednesday. I appreciate you joining us. My man
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informational related research before you get your bets in, there
a great resource and website to use. All right, let's
bring in the crew, uh, Jason Martin, Danny g and

(48:37):
Um and justin Last Night three million people are so
watch me on, Tucker Carlson. What kind of review would
you give me on the performance? I know you were sick.
Did you even watch or did you mute me? Jason Martin,
I didn't meet you. I saw some photos, but I
actually haven't watched a segment yet. Sawesome photos. Uh, so
you don't want so? I did wear a college shirt

(48:59):
that was a strong a by me. Let's bring in
the cruise out in l A. By the way, congratulations
to the Dodgers, big win. Uh they now are back
on the wing and come back trail. Yeah, what did
you guys? What did you guys think? Did anybody see
the performance? I saw still photos that still photos. You

(49:19):
look preppy. You look better than the last appearance because
you're here. Actually looked like you had some sort of stylist.
It didn't have a stylist. My hair is just perfect.
I mean all I got my stylist is I just
grabbed the comb and I run it through my hair.
Doubt that, there's no doubt at all. Right, do we
still have calls? I know I told people were gonna
go to them. Are they still waiting? Jason Martin? Yes, sir?
Who should I go to? Stephen Mississippi? Steve in Mississippi.

(49:42):
Let's hit it. Hey, how are you doing? Call it?
I'm excellent? Good? Uh. I just want to make a
keep comments regarding ESP and I don't I don't see
any of this change, I mean with with their position ones,
because you know we've been here hearing this thing, these
type things for quite some time. Really the point I'm

(50:05):
getting at you, Steve, Like you're a big sports fan,
do you find yourself watching ESPN less often because you
feel like the politics has kind of started to wear
on you and make you feel uncomfortable. It's been like
that for quite some time, that they have no accountability.
I mean, that's what That's what really grips me. I
watched the football games on there, and I'll watch tell

(50:25):
miss you know this week and against Cale, but you know,
and I turned it off. I don't watch Sports Center
or anything because I don't I don't want to hear
their opinions. But Yeah, the thing I was really getting
that with with what I was trying to say is
I think a lot of this. I think it all
has to do with Michael Eisner in his position, and
I don't think ESPN has any choice. It's gonna be

(50:47):
that way as long as he's flowing the strings. Well,
I appreciate the call it's Bob Iger now, but I
actually agree with you. I think Bob Iger wants to
run for president, and I think he's going to use
ESPN as a tool to allow him to run for president.
I really do. Jose and Fremont Jose what's up? Do

(51:07):
we lose? Jose? Put Jose on? Hold you gotta be
prepared to make plays. Judge in San Antonio? What's up, Judge? Uh,
vote for Obama doesn't mean you're not racist? First off,
you think so? Do you think I'm racist? Before? Hey,
hold on, Judge for you said, first of all, just
because you voted for Obama doesn't mean you're racist. So
do you think I'm racist? You think I'm racist? I

(51:28):
do every morning, every morning I listened to you. You
just sound like the most racist person on the radio,
the most racist person on the radio. What do what
do I say? Okay, hold on, hold on, Judge? What
do I say that's racist? What do I say it's racist?
Say any any black issue? You're totally opposed to it. Anything.
So when I said, okay, hold on, when I said
Ezekiel Elliott shouldn't be suspended? Was that racist of me?

(51:50):
Three months? Basically? So you think it was racist for
me to say that a black guy should not be suspended?
What's you say when I said Ezekiel Elliott? When I
defended It's spent multiple shows defending Zekiel Elliott saying that
I thought he was being unfairly treated by the NFL,
that he shouldn't have been suspended. That has to do
with the court system. Okay, So but if it but

(52:11):
if it had been a but if it had been
a black guy, and I said, oh, he deserved to
be suspended for twelve games that had been racist. Okay,
So okay, okay, So you don't think that has anything
to do Okay, So you think I'm racist? What else
do I do that's racist? Also said, you said earlier
that Jamel Hill said about uh, the president, it's ten
times worse than what what's his name? The country singer

(52:35):
said about and it's and it's not true. He said,
I didn't say that. I said that in both situations.
I said, in both situations you had comments that were
made about sitting presidents. I don't think it's infinitely worse
to call somebody a white supremacist white. Well, Hitler was
a white supremacist, right, Hitler was a white supremacist. Yeah,

(52:57):
it's kind of the same thing. No, he come on, man, really, really,
Hitler is a was a white supremacist. When you say
that one race is favored by that, that's kind of
the same thing. The same thing that's what you're saying.
I'm saying that if you call the president a white supremacist, people,
what's killing people at will? I'm saying that white supremacy

(53:20):
is the same thing that the underlying philosophy of Adolph
Hitler was white supremacy. Correct, But I'm saying that that
they are the same thing in terms of their philosophy.
When you say someone as a white supremacist and Hitler
was a white supremacist who also a very murderer, evil person. Okay, look,

(53:41):
there's no you want to call in and say that
Hitler is a bad person. We're not disagreeing here. You
said that, you said I did not say that. A
caller said, hold on, you can go back to the tape.
First of all. First of all, that has nothing to
do with whether I'm racist or not. You you called
in and said that I'm racist. I'm asking you for

(54:01):
evidence that I'm racist. You called the judge. You called in.
The first thing you said is you voted for Barack Obama.
Doesn't mean that you're not racist. I said, Okay, that's fine,
So tell me what I do that's racist. What have
I done that is racist? Topic? Period? Like, come on,
this topic, period, because I think that somebody shouldn't say

(54:24):
that the president is a white supremacist when he's not
a white supremacist. Okay, come on, he's trying to get
rid of every Mesican person almost in this Country's not
That's just not true. What come on, that's the He's
trying to get rid of all types of good Mesican
people that have been living in this country. Legally, he
wants to inforce. Hold On, he wants to enforce existing

(54:47):
immigration laws like just about every country does in the world.
I don't necessarily agree with Donald Trump on a lot
of things, but that's not racist to enforce existing laws
that are on our books negative towards Mexican people, period.
That's people being here now if the criminals. Okay. When
he doesn't want any anybody, any immigrants here, that's not true.

(55:09):
That is okay. I don't want to debate. I don't
want to debate. Hold On, Judge, you called in and
said that I'm racist. All I asked you to do
is tell me something that I have done that is racist.
That's a pretty broad, bold statement to make. Right If
you called in and said, hey, Clay Travis, you're a
child molester. My first response would be, Okay, that's a

(55:30):
pretty bold thing to say. Do you have any evidence
that I've molested children? That wouldn't be a ridiculous question.
You called in and said that I'm racist, and I said,
tell me something that I've done that is racist. And
you have yet to say anything to what you actually
molested kids. If you're racist, it's just things you say
in the way you feel. Okay, So I'm asking you
for actual evidence. You called in and said you're racist,

(55:52):
and I said, tell me, Actually, I can tell based
on the way you talk. I'm not the only person
that feel that way. I know that, Okay. So, but
you still have given me any evidence that I'm racist. Judge,
You called in, you listen to the show every day.
You said, I listen to the show. You're racist, And
I said, okay, what have I done? What have I
said that's racist? And you've yet to give me one example.

(56:13):
That's so you called in with an accusation. I said, okay, Hey,
most people would just hang up on you, right, most
people if if you called into their show. I bet
there's not a single sports talk radio show show host
in the country who the caller calls in and his
first thing that he says is you're racist. My first
thing was like, Okay, let's talk about it. What have
I done that's racist. I'm trying to ensure that I'm
not racist. I'd like to hear from you, Judge, what

(56:34):
I do the races. There's not one black person that
wouldn't say yours the entire country. Every black person in
America who listened to the show would say that I'm racist.
And you haven't given listen to yourself because they have
to sun finals kind of way. Hold on, hold on everybody,
every black person who's listening right now. Eight seven seven, Judge,

(56:58):
just hold on, Judge. I'm opening up the phone lines
because you said, every black person who listens to this
show is convinced that I am racist. Eight seven seven
nine six six three six nine. Judges called in and
said that I'm incredibly racist. He said, Uh, the number
one thing that racist people would do is vote for
Barack Obama for president, because there's nothing that would prove

(57:18):
that you're racist more than giving a black man control
of the country. I voted for Obama in two thousand
and eight, two thousand and twelve, He says, you're racist,
And I'm asking him for evidence, and then so far
as evidence has been that every black person in America
who listens to the show would say that I'm racist.
So I'm opening up the phone lines Trump, the people
that voted for Trump are racist? You think the Black

(57:39):
people who voted for Trump are racist? Ten ten percent?
Ten percent of black people voted for Trump umbas, So
you think those temper cent of black people are racist?
You think they're white supremacists of Hispanic people. You said
Donald Trump hays his span of Hispanic people voted for

(58:02):
Donald Trump. Do you think do you think they're racist?
It would be judge, You'd have to admit it would
be a little bit of an upset if these Hispanic
and Black people who voted for Donald Trump were doing
it because they're white supremacist, right, It would be a
bad move if you're expanding to a white supremacist is true,
which I don't believe that that's true. True unless you
believe that the voter roles are are faked. They're dumbass

(58:25):
this question. Okay, but you still haven't said anything that
I'm racist. Every Black person in America believes that I'm racist.
He takes some black calls. Please open phone lines. Does
every black person in America agree with Judge that I
am racist? And if you do, I would love to
have evidence that you would marshal together and say this
is why Clay Travis is racist. And most people out there,

(58:46):
they say, like they get a call like this, like
they're gonna be like, oh, I'm terrified of it. I'm
gonna run from it. See. I think that people like
Judge use the word racist like it's so going out
of style that it has zero value. Now. It's like
the boy who cried Wolf. Every person who's listening to
that call right now is like, Judge didn't offer any
evidence whatsoever that I'm racist? You got any evidence at all?

(59:10):
I'm open open for him. You can call in and
say what have I done that is racist? Because I
actually think actions, even words, what words have I said?
That are racist? Open phone lines? Judge says, every black
man in America believes that I am racist? Eight seven, seven,
three six nine. Only black men. I'm gonna be racist here,

(59:32):
I'm gonna be racist here. Only black men on the
phone calls right now, or black women. Only black men
or black women. And if you try to fake it.
If you try to go off Shaun King on me,
if you try to go all talcom X on me,
if you try to be a white guy who's calling
in pretending to be black, that's really racist. You can't.
Rachel dol Is all things you can't. Sean Kingdom just

(59:54):
got a good call from Judge in San Antonio. He said,
I'm a huge racist, and so phone lines are open
eight seven seven six three six nine only black people
were segregating the phone lines only black people right now,
Judge says, every black man in America, every black woman
in America is going to agree that I am racist.
So we'll take your calls next, and you guys can
make the case for me being a huge, horrible, awful

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or more on car insurance. We segregated the phones. Judge
called in and said that I was racist. He said
every black man and woman in America would agree, So
we cleaned off the calls. We bumped to Jeff Schwartz.

(01:01:41):
He's gonna be on tomorrow. I said, Jeff, Sorry, we
gotta take calls about whether or not I'm racist. He
totally understood. So you thought it was a smart move.
So open phone lines right now. Jason Martin has screened
the calls, and we begin with Dominique and Roano. Dominique,
are you black? Yes? Sir? Do you believe that I
am racist? No? No, Um, I think the call would

(01:02:07):
judge you know, he you know, he just got worked up.
I think racism is such a sensitive issue, so when
any kind of objectivity is brought into the picture, that
person is automatically viewed as racist. So, um, no, I don't.
I don't think you're racist about bottom line. Well, I
appreciate the call. Dominique and Rowan oak Way and in

(01:02:27):
Now everybody's not gonna agree. So we've got open phone
lines eight seven seven six three six nine. Let's go
to John in Missouri. John, are you a black man? Yeah?
You are. Do you believe that I'm racist? Yes? I do. Okay,
what do I do that's racist? Every issue to do
with a black person, you do, you do the opposite you. Okay,

(01:02:52):
let me let me pause you here for a second.
I don't want this is like when my wife argues
with me and she I'm like, what do you mean?
What did I do? And she's like, you always do this?
And I'm like, okay, we'll give me some specific examples.
So you just said every issue dealing with black people,
you're anti black, all right, So you give me some
examples here as opposed to just speaking in broad categories. Okay,

(01:03:13):
it's not. It's not every issue, but it's not out
of ten. Let's start with one with Colin Kaepernick. You
don't look at it. You look at it as the
national anthem. It's not. Ok But I don't think we
need to debate Colin Kaepernick. But Colin Kaepernick is half
white and half black, all right, So wouldn't that mean
that I hate half of him as opposed to and
you just think I hate the black half of Colin Kaepernick,

(01:03:34):
not the white half. Well, you hate the minority half, okay,
so I love the white half. So like when Colin
Kaepernick like watches Seinfeld, I like that part. But when
he does the national anthem, protest. I don't like that part.
She's always trying to throw in a little joke, but
it's not really funny because black people, black men have
been through racism for a long time. Okay, so racism

(01:03:57):
used to exist for hundreds of years, Like I have
to be concerned about it. For Colin Kaepernick's protest, Now, well,
you don't have to be concerned, but you gotta look
at it as the right thing to do. He's Yeah,
I don't want to debate Colin Kaepernick, but I don't
understand how thinking Colin Kaepernick is not. Okay, So let's
put Colin Kaepernick off to the side, Like, I don't
see that as race based at all. But see, uh,

(01:04:21):
but he's half white, So you're saying that I'm brought
biased against him, but I'm saying, I guess I'm only
biased against the half black part of him. You're you're
you're upset win him because and a lot of white
people are upset because he's protesting something to do with
the black man. Okay. So when I said that I
didn't agree with Megan Rapino taking a knee for the

(01:04:42):
US women's soccer team. Megan Rapino is a white woman.
Does that mean that I hate white women too? I'm
sure you don't. I'm sure you have a bias, you
know who. I'm biased in favor of hot chicks. I like,
what about you, John? Like? Which race do you think
is best looking? I think everybody's best. So do you
like you like black women more than white women? Everybody's

(01:05:05):
getting here. I liked all races. But if you had
to choose a black woman or a white woman, which
would you choose? I love sex me too, So we're
in agreement there. But I'm still saying, like, in general,
are you married? No? I'm not. Have you ever been married? Yes?
One time, twenty years ago. What happened? Why did you
get divorced? Uh? This? We were girlfriend and boyfriend for

(01:05:30):
ten years and got married for one year. What happened there?
You lived together for ten years, you're together, Everything is
going great. You got married, you job? You didn't buy
her a new mattress? Did you what you do? Would
you do to piss her off? It's your fault? I
bet well? Was this? We just didn't get along living?
Did you all the time? Yes? But all right, it's

(01:05:53):
not about you, not about you, even though you cheated
on your wife. It's not a good move for you,
all right, bad move for you. Should have bought her
a new mattress and been a better husband. But let's
go back, all right, So Colin Kaepernick's off the table.
What else racist have I done? A gentleman called in
and said his uh daughter would be as graduated as
an attorney at Harvard or yeah about it a week

(01:06:15):
or so ago. I remember that she would remember. That
was a good call. She went to Vanderbilt for undergrad
and she was going to Duke for law school. And
I said, which is true, that if you, because of
the way that admissions work, if you're black, you can
get into top schools with lower grades than you can
if you are white or Asian. That's true, But she
specifically said that she did. You don't know from a

(01:06:37):
can of paint that she did. There's people that's there's
black people that are smart, smart, smarter than white people,
if you may believe me, I didn't say that she specifically.
I said that black people in general could get into
top schools with lower scores than white people and Asian people.
And that's true. By the way. Let me ask you
this too, though, if I'm racist, why do you listen
to me every morning? There's that I'm a worts guy.

(01:07:00):
For one. I love sports. You're I'm getting dressed for work,
and I got my radio in the car on sports.
I got the radio in the house on sports. So
the sports. But and I'm glad you're there because really,
in life, if you know where a racist is, you're
gonna try to avoid them in person. And so if
you saw me, if you saw me out of restaurant,

(01:07:23):
you be like, I don't want to be near that
racist guy. I'm not a confrontational type of guy. Really, Okay,
let's keep going. Let's keep going. You're doing a good
job of itemizing all my racism. So we took Colin Kaepernick.
You say that the guy called in a couple of
weeks ago said his daughter was going to school. And
I pointed out, as part of that discussion, which was
a discussion about affirmative action in general, that if you're black,

(01:07:44):
you can get into two good schools with lower test scores,
which is true based entirely on your race, which was
my evidence for black people not being discriminated against. In fact,
based on your race, you actually get favorable treatment. Now,
now you can get into whether or not that's right,
which is what I was saying. Like you can say, okay,
well that makes sense. Affirmative action should exist to to

(01:08:05):
redress a legacy of discrimination in this country. We don't
need to debate affirmative action. That's all right. What else?
By the way, By the way, let me ask you this.
If you get treated differently based on your race, solely
based on your race, would that be racist? I would? Okay, Well,

(01:08:28):
that's exactly what affirmative action is. Everybody is lined up. No, no,
everybody has lined up, and all that matters. Like if
we have three people lined up, we got a white person,
an Asian person, and a black person, and they're all
trying to get into Harvard and everybody's looking at their
test scores. The black person gets in with a much
lower test score than the white person and the Asian

(01:08:50):
person on average. Okay, that is discrimination based on race,
which I think is racist. Can I ask you a question? Yeah? Yeah, sure.
So if black people have been built this country pretty much,
and we're slaves and everything, hold on, let me ask you.
A lot of people have built this country. I think

(01:09:10):
there's some Asian people who like laid the inter Continental Railroad,
Like I think it's unfair to say that black people
built the country. Okay, okay, let me ask you a question.
So black people have been discriminated against for years everything,
So how do black people get on a level playing field? Well,
that's the argument for that's no, No, that's an argument

(01:09:31):
for affirmative action. Now you can make that argumentactly because well, well,
if you're if you're coming out of the gate, if
you're starting a game a hundred points to zero, how
does that person with zero get caught up? If they're
starting a game at zero. That's the argument for affirmative action. Well,
does that make sense? You can make that argument. I
think that discriminating based on race is a bad method

(01:09:53):
in the country. I think the way to solve race
is not to treat other races different than everybody else.
You're not trying to solve racist and we're trying to
get level plane field, to get loans, to get jobs,
to get instance in the school, to get an education. Threat.
It's great, that's a great question. I don't believe that

(01:10:14):
discrimination based on race is the way to do it.
I don't think it makes sense. I think that you
could argue that it does. Okay. I also don't think
that the goal of society should be to ensure that
every race is is exactly equal in every single field, right,
I don't think it matters, and to me personally, I
don't think it matters, but every day, so I think

(01:10:39):
that the law should treat everybody equally and then we
can end up with different results. Right. My position would
be like if I said to you right now, who's
your favorite NFL football team? Um, you know, I like,
I like, I really like Cam Newton. So I'm gonna go, Okay,
do you like Cam Newton because he's a black guy,

(01:11:00):
Kim Newton? Because he's a very good player. He's been
through a lot from college, you know, So it's just
a coincidence that you're a black guy whose favorite player
is Cam Newton. Because I don't want you to be racist.
I don't want you to be picked up favorite Peyton Manning. Okay,
all right, good, alright, then then you're not racist in
your favorite quarterbacks. All right, So let's say your favorite
players Cam Newton. What if I told you right now

(01:11:22):
that because I'm upset with the way that the uh
that the way that the NFL races exist right now?
Right s, all NFL players are black. What if I
told you right now that in order to make sure
that the NFL was as fair as it could possibly be,
we were only gonna have twelve black people on the
Carolina Panthers, we were gonna have sixty white people. And oh,

(01:11:44):
by the way, just to make sure that the world's
completely fair, you can only have Asian defensive backs. That is,
only Asian people can play cornerback. Only Asian people can
play safety. Only Asian people can play on your secondary
all right. And the way to make it even more fair,
only Asian people can be Cam Newton's wide receivers. But

(01:12:04):
that's my goal because I want the Carolina Panthers to
look just like the rest of America. What would your
response to be to that? That's not, that's not everybody
is not a football player, but everybody has to work.
But everybody, But that's my point, right, Like, the what
you believe the reason why I'm using that example is
you believe that the meritocracy works in football, Right? You

(01:12:25):
believe that every NFL team is trying to get the
best possible people for the job. Right, Well, that's because
it's that's something that's not Everybody can't play football. Everybody
can work every but everybody's not gonna be equally good
at every job. Right, Like I would be a very
good surgeon, I wouldn't be a very good surgeon because
you know what, I'm not good with blood. Like anytime

(01:12:47):
somebody starts to bleed, I'm like, oh my god, I
would I would faint. Like I don't do well. I
wish I did. I don't do well. So right, So
the idea that I would be an equally good surgeon
as somebody else is not true. Now, I'm really damn
good at radio. I'm really damn good at writing. I
might be racist. I gotta take a break. I gotta
take a break, by the way. But I want you

(01:13:07):
to think about that. Good call there, But I want
you to think about that. What would happen if we
said that football teams had to reflect exactly what the
population is in America? You'd fire a lot of black people, right,
And you'd say, man, that sucks, because I think NFL
teams are trying to get the best possible person in
the job. Why do we presume that businesses, which have

(01:13:31):
a lot more at stake than NFL teams. NFL team
ain't going bankrupt. The Browns have sucked for twenty years.
They're never going bankrupt. Why do we presume that they
might do it, but that that that they're not that
they're getting the best people. But Google isn't or Apple
isn't or Amazon isn't. When those companies can all go bankrupt.

(01:13:52):
My Space used to exist, right, my Space doesn't exist anymore.
The Cleveland Browns are still going to exist a hundred
years from now, and they're gonna be one of the
few teams that actually continues to increase in franchise value.
All right, let's bring in my guy, Danny g I
have blown all the way into almost another segment with
his update. Not Danny g Eddy g Anti, Hispanic people too.

(01:14:19):
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or more on car insurance. Only black people calling in.
Judge in San Antonio said I was racist, didn't really
give any evidence for why I was racist, but he
said every black person would agree with him. So we
opened up the phone line to only black people. No
Shaun King's out there, no talcom x is, no Rachel Dolasols,
Scout's honor. Need to know that you're black eight seven
seven six three, six nine. Who should we go to next?

(01:16:28):
Esquire in California? Esquire in California? What's up? Esquire in California?
Am I racist? Oh? Yeah, well I'm sorry. I forgot
to ask are you a black man? Did we lose? Esquire?
Am I still on the air? Am I still? Uh?

(01:16:49):
He said I wasn't racist? Go ahead and tell you
that one up. James in Kentucky, James, are you black? Yeah?
We are? We are. Oh you got multiple people? Yeah? Yeah,
we on our way home from work? All right? You
from work? You got the multiple black people in the car?
Are you driving with a white person or hispanic person? Like?
Who else is in the car? Not two black people?

(01:17:11):
All right? You and somebody else? Or there's three total? No,
I mean just me and my brother. Two people? All right?
So does he think I'm racist too? Or you guys split? Yeah?
Thank you both think you're racist? Yeah? Okay, I was
hoping you might be split up. But what do you
think I'm ray? Why do you think I'm racist? I

(01:17:33):
don't know if I really thank you Race. I think
you you do a lot of stuff for shocked by
You like to get your ratings up. Okay, so you
think I pretend to be racist for ratings, um somewhat Like,
but what if I what do I do that's racist?
I mean a lot, well, a lot of your opinions

(01:17:53):
when you're not You're not black, so a lot of
your opinions are not. Uh, would you think of that
I was racist if I had the hold on? Would
you think that I was racist? If I had the
exact same opinions but I was black? Not if you
said the same thing that Shannon Sharp on this show,
I wouldn't think you was racist. No, But so like

(01:18:14):
you understand that saying that I can't have an opinion
because I'm a white guy's kind of racist. Right. No,
I understand that you can have your opinions, But what
if I what have I said that's racist? Like That's
what I'm just saying, Like, if you think I'm racist, okay,
Like you can have that opinion whatever doesn't bother me,
Just like you can have the opinion that my hair
is not great. It's wrong, but you can have that opinion.
So what if I said that's actually racist? I mean,

(01:18:38):
your point of views is always like I don't want
to bring up Kaefernick, but like the Bennett situation. Your
point of views is always so if a black guy,
like let's use let's use the Bennett situation. If a
black guy gets caught in the lie, wouldn't it be
racist and not call him a lie? Or because he
happens to be black. It's your opinion. How you you how?

(01:19:00):
I think we made the case pretty good. Like my
opinion is not he's lying because he's black. My opinion
is he's lying and he happens to be black. So
just like a white person or Hispanic person or an
Asian person who I believe is lying, I'm gonna come
on the radio and say, hey, I think the dude's lying,
and that doesn't have anything to do with the race.
How do you figure? I mean, we did a whole

(01:19:21):
did a whole show. You can go read you can
go read out thanks for the call. You can go
read out kick dot com again. Just because somebody doesn't
believe that somebody of a race is telling the truth
doesn't mean him racist. Like that's actually the job of
what I do, right, Like I always look at the
facts of individual cases. A lot of people out there

(01:19:43):
in the sports media, they say, oh, that guy who's
black said this therefore I believe him. Like that's what
the The USA Today did opening line of their front
page story was, I don't even need to see any evidence.
I believe Michael Bennett. Guy who's and that's black. Well,
that's because you are immediately allowing the race of the

(01:20:04):
person who said something to justify whether or not you
believe him. I do something crazy. I actually look at
the facts, whether it's a white person or black person,
and Asian person or Hispanic person. Just because I'm not
on the side of a black guy in a particular
story doesn't make me racist. Means that I actually look
at the facts. I'm on Ezekiel Elliott's case, in his

(01:20:25):
his situation, that's not racism. That's because I looked at
the situation. I said, you know what, I don't believe
Ezekiel Elliott's accuser. I don't think he should get suspended.
That's actually looking at the facts and not allowing my
worldview to cloud me. A lot of people out there saying, oh,
you gotta believe Ezekiel Elliott's accuser because lots of women
get domestically abused or raped, Well, that's stupid. Just because
a lot of people get domestically abused or rape doesn't

(01:20:47):
mean that Ezekiel Elliott did it in this particular circumstance.
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Auto Zone. We're in the zone here, Judge down in
San Antonio. He called in said I was a huge racist,
even though I voted for Barack Obama. So I said,
you know what, He said, no black person, uh would
say that I'm not racist. That's a double negative. So

(01:21:28):
he said, every black person would say that I'm racist.
So we have cleared all phone lines. Only black people
are allowed to call in and tell me whether or
not I'm racist. Poll question of the day, Am I racist?
Is up right now? Sixty six percent of you say no,
percent of you say yes. So that's the poll question
of the day. Am I racist? Let's go to is

(01:21:49):
this real life Adolph in California? I didn't know anybody
was actually, what's up? We're waiting eight seven seven six
three six nine. Jason Martin is finishing up, loading up
all the phone lines. Britt mckennry gonna join us uh
in the second segment of the show today around twenty
minutes after, so you're probably gonna want to stay in
your car for that. In the meantime, we are figuring

(01:22:11):
out whether or not I am racist. This all spiral
out of a discussion about Jamal Hill saying that Donald
Trump was a white supremacist and that all his supporters
were bigots and that the only reason he got elected
president was because he was white. Well, then Judge in
San Antonio, he calls in and go back and listen
to the podcast. I encourage you to go download it.

(01:22:31):
Judge in San Antonio called in Listens every Day, surprising
you listen to a racist every day? Buddy listens every day,
And he called in and said, you're racist. And then
we're asking for specifics. So in addition to the fact
that whether or not you think I'm racist, if you
do think I'm racist, then you, Uh, then you make
your make your start. Sorry, we're gonna go to Adolph next,

(01:22:51):
who's real evidently, but Jason Martin, you say we should
go to Thomas and l A first. He's next, Thomas
and l A. Thomas and l A, what's up? Good morning?
Are you a black man? Thomas? Yes, I am. Do
you believe that I'm racist? To get races? Fifty percent opportunists?
Christ of all racist a touch of subject and it

(01:23:13):
brings about of hiplines. So you made your first mistake
that I caught when you said the president's president, I
can't think his name Trump Trump, idiot? Was Herman Caine
ms to nine nine nine was in his cabinet and
somebody mustr hip. You came back and said, Ben Cox,
your first mistake was all looking alike. Yeah, I definitely

(01:23:33):
think Herman Kane and Ben Carson are the same guy.
They both ran for president. Um you think you think
I think all black people look alike? He said, you
said he was in his cabinet. Yeah, I got Herman
Kine and been been Carson mixed up. That's because I'm racist. Okay, okay,
would you half races because you support people you think
because I got Herman Kine and Ben Carson mixed up

(01:23:55):
that that makes me racist? No, no, no, no, no no,
I'm just saying that's that's just that's just that's evidence
that I'm racist. That's not the evidence. That's just a
touch script of the mouth. Okay, but you you you
said I get you the racist because you support racist? Okay?
Who do I support that's racist? Like? Who you think

(01:24:15):
Dick is racist? Yes? I do? Hold on, do you
think that a black guy, sorry, a white guy who
coached black guys and took him to the Super Bowl,
Walter Payton's coach? Like you think Mike Dick is racist? Yeah?
I do see him on TV. I saw my TV
and he thought he was racist. He had the way
he talked he has as a coach. Anymore, listen, listen,
I don't say you think Mike Dick is Do you

(01:24:37):
think that Mike Dick is a KKK member baseball place?
I don't think it's k k K. No, that's okay.
So how racist? Is he? Like? Kind of racist? A
little bit racist or like? But how racist? So why
wouldn't he be a KKK member? Come on, raisk But

(01:24:58):
at least the kk member Camember are coming out just ant.
We look at Hitler, it's somebody like that who is
But yeah, how would you assess me compared to Hitler
when it comes to racism? You're an opportunist? Come on, man,
come on? But you said I was fifty percent racist,
fifty percent opportunists? Yeah, because ration, So what percentage racist

(01:25:19):
was Hitler? Was he like fifty percent opportunists to or
was he like, oh, he's a d fifty percent racist? Yeah? Okay,
what else do you have that that that I've done
that I'm racist? Going on, took a cars and show
show to racism, took a client is an idiot, He's said,
So he's going on. I went on CNN too, Like
is that racist of me to go on CNN? Yeah?

(01:25:41):
I don't care. We took a Carson shows cousin Charles
has got some kind of the disease's he should be
in a mental hospital. Is Bill Clinton racist? He did
some things that I didn't agree with. Yeah, yeah, but
like he did some things like the citizen in the
sentison of Blocks we call rack versus Coke. So you
think Hillary Cutton's racist too? Because she's called the young

(01:26:05):
black man super predators. Yeah, I didn't vote for How
did't vote for Trump? Who'd you vote for? I voted
for diet and he didn't run. You wrote his name in,
I wrote his name man. Yeah, Joe Biden you think
is not racist? No? I thought he hadn't said anything racists.
I don't know what his his feelings aren't I'm not

(01:26:26):
I don't get in his subconci So what So, okay, Thomas,
what should I do to not be racist? How should
I cleanse me? Know? You support people like you support
people like just this, you know, like Sheriff Clark. Ten
percent of I would say when you said tim percent
of black people voted for Trump? Right, okay, you said
a timpercent? Well, whenever slavery and they would runaway slaves

(01:26:48):
who told on them. But other blacks, like you know,
if she was so everybody who voted, every black person
who voted for Donald Trump's and Uncle Tom. Don't give
Uncle Tom a bad name. Now let's give me an uncle.
I'm a bad na. Come on? So what should I do?
Though I'm trying to cleanse myself of racism? What would
you suggest that I do? You're not talking to somebody stupid? Now,

(01:27:10):
I know, I'm asking you, like, what should I do
to cleanse myself of racism for Barack Obama in two
thousand eight and two thousand twelve. You think very many
k big deal, big deal, that's what everybody says. You know,
you come out of the boat and boots. That's why
that's why Trump won. You Hillary law sense of what
the vote was. I said Trump was gonna win because

(01:27:31):
people don't admit when they take poles of who voted
for who. Look, man is gonna tell you to tell
you that they voted for I tell oh, you think
you think as men are sexist? They won't vote for Hillary. No,
I'm saying they don't want to be called a racist.
They don't want to be called a race Okay, all right,
I appreciate the calling. Come back and let me tomorrow.

(01:27:51):
I mean, I'm try trying to be not as racist.
So anything I can do to make myself not racist?
This guy, um, and I'm not getting very many good suggestions.
And by the way, impressive call there from Thomas. He
thought Bill Clinton was racist, he thought Mike Dicko was racist,
he thought I was racist. He thought Hillary Clinton was racist. Um, yeah,
pretty much everybody's racist. Let's go to Adolph in California.
Is your name really Adolf? Yes, it is, my name is.

(01:28:15):
You're the first Aidolf I've ever met. Well, I was
named after my dad's cousin who died in the war.
And which war? The Revolutionary War? Which war did he
die in? No, I believe it was. That's a tough break.
You're named Adolph and you get killed in World War two. Man,

(01:28:38):
That's that's drawing the bottom end of the stick there. Yeah, yeah,
I guess so while they were close. My dad wants
to keep going. But anyway, this this judge guy, he
called and said that the percent and Mexicans that voted
her dumb for Trump. That's just a bunch of full craft.
I voted for Trump, and it's not because I'm dumbed.

(01:28:58):
It's because I'm con tired of UH career politicians and
their full craft that they spewed every single year. It's
the same stuff every year, every year, and I'm think
of it. I wanted somebody in there who was totally different.
And I don't believe he's racists. I believe he's doin

(01:29:19):
the best job he can. And these rules about Mexicans
and coming over the border and the illegal looking. He
is not after this guy that we can support their
flood up in our contribute to these kind of state.
He's as the people who are druad stealers, who are racists,
who who do all those things. Adolf, Adolf, are you Hispanic? Yes?

(01:29:41):
I am, alright, so second generation here, second generation, So
you are not a white supremacist and you voted for
Donald Trump? I guess there. That is absolutely the truth.
All right? Do you think that I'm racist? Your Hispanic?
So your vote counts half because you're not black, but
you're a minority, so I'm gonna give you a half vote,
so you're not. I don't believe you're racist. I listened

(01:30:04):
to you all the time, and you pretty much say
uh what other people want to say but won't say
it because it's too politically correct. I'm not a very
politically correct person, so I'm gonna say what I believe
regardless of what other people think about me. And they
probably think it on racings. But every time you criticize
a black man, black person, they've pulled the race cars.

(01:30:28):
That's true. Scare people. People want to say what they
want to say they want to close our eyes to it.
That's fine, you close your eyes to it. But it's
a freaking fact. I live it. I grew up in
the body. I see it. I see it all the time,
and I'm not afraid to say it. It's just the truth.
I appreciate the call. Thank you for not being politically correct,
tough call and being a named Adolf. He's trying to
bring the name Aidolf back. That mustache hadn't even come back.

(01:30:53):
Only DoD I've seen rock in the Adolf Ler Hitler mustache,
Michael Jordan and those Haines commercials. Michael Jordan wasn't content
enough with the fact that he made male pattern baldness
for black men a desirable physical traite. He's like, I
gotta take it to the next level. I'm also going
to bring back the Hitler stash. Only dude, I've ever
seen with the Hitler stash trying to rocket in public
Michael Jordan's and it's because he's overconfident. He's like, I

(01:31:15):
dunk from the free throw line, bitch. I brought male
pattern baldness into the forefront for black men. Looks they had.
Michael Jordan is so popular Black men with hair shave
their hair off. Think about how crazy that is. I'm
not a white man so popular Mr Clean. Everybody just
white men with great hair like me to start shaving
their hair off so they can look more like Mr. Clean.
That's what Michael Jordan did. Unbelievable. Let's go to Roddy

(01:31:38):
and l A, Roddy and l A, what's up? Hello? Yeah,
what's up, Roddy? How are you? Yeah? Hey, you kind
of kind of backwards. Um, it's not that you. I'm black,
by the way, I'm Creo, which is a customized version
of a black song, part white but mostly black. And
what you've got going on is he's black people that

(01:32:00):
are calling you. They are racists in every there's a
segment of every race that has angry racist people in it.
That's a different. So what the white liberals do They
come and get these people. They hate white these people
there they're calling you. They they don't care where you
could be democrats. They don't like white people. That's why

(01:32:23):
when you ask them for a reason, they can't have one.
They don't know. They just hate you. But they can't say, well,
it's because you're white. They hate you because you're white,
and so the liberals need to use these people for purposes,
so they give them their ideology and they just keep
spouting it. Intelligent black men like me understand in order
to make an assertion about you have to back it up.

(01:32:47):
And I know that there's no such thing as racism
because there's no such thing as race. It's something that's created.
There's only who holmost apience. So these people basically are stupid.
That's why they can't give you an answer, and you
might as well stop it. They will hate you no
matter what you do. They have no answer for their
racist just as racist and Hillary Clinton and the quick

(01:33:08):
quick appreciate a call. You know what's interesting? I saw
I'm a d N a guy, right, um, And you know,
I don't know science well, but I did see something
that was fascinating that I didn't think got very much attention.
Do you know what percentage on average Hispanic people are
European DNA In other words, people from Europe obviously who

(01:33:33):
came over to this country and ended up interbreeding with
the natives who were here. And that's a large population
of the Hispanic population now, right like it's people from
Europe who came over here and they had children, they
produced offspring. This is why I think it's fascinating, Like,
if you're truly racist, Okay, forty of Hispanic d n

(01:33:57):
A is from Europe, So every Hispanic person is almost
half white. Think about that for a minute. Every Hispanic
person in this country and in this I think it's
in the hemisphere that when you actually analyze their DNA,
which we can do now, you know, you spit into
a tube, they take your DNA, they look at it

(01:34:20):
European DNA. So on average, just about every Hispanic person
in this hemisphere is almost half European, half white. That's interesting.
What's also crazy American black people. The average American Black
person is twenty European d NA. Think about that. You're

(01:34:46):
out there driving around in your car. You're racist, you
hate everybody. Almost half of every Hispanic person has the
exact same DNA as a white person, and on average
percent of black people is also European DNA. I just
when I saw that statistic, I was totally fascinated by

(01:35:08):
it because it illuminated how stupid it is to be
obsessed with defining people based on race when even biomlecularly,
if that's a word. When you look at our DNA code,
we ain't that different. Even from a race based perspective.
We've all got the same d n A. But when
you look inside, like literally inside the d n A,

(01:35:31):
every Hispanic person is almost half white and the average
black person is nearly a third white from European DNA.
Pretty fascinating when you actually break out that data to me. Anyway,
let's go to Justin in Culver City. Justin is he there?

(01:35:53):
We gotta go to break because we've got brit mckinry
coming on. All right, so I appreciate all of your calls.
You can go vote in the poll if you didn't
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You can decide whether or not you think I'm racist.
It's gonna really upset the racist something like you are
saying no. Uh so that's tough. That's kind of like
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(01:36:15):
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(01:39:29):
She is still affiliated in some ways with the ESPN. Britt,
what's up? Thanks for coming on with us, and so
we were talking we started off the show. We talked
about this yesterday as well. But for people out there
who don't know, I'm gonna read um several tweets. This
is from Jamal Hill, who is on air on the
six o'clock Sports Center Eastern Time. Donald Trump is a bigot.

(01:39:53):
Glad you could live with voting for him. I couldn't
because I cared about more than just myself. He's unqualified,
unfit to be president. He's not a leader, and if
he were not white, he never would have been elected.
Trump is the most ignorant, offensive president of my lifetime.
His rise as a direct result of white supremacy period,
and she said Donald Trump is a white supremacist who

(01:40:16):
has largely surrounded himself with other white supremacists. Now, what
was your reaction when you saw those tweets? I was
pretty taken aback, just knowing the supposed culture there and
what employees are not supposed to comment on. It's a

(01:40:36):
really loosened though. As you and I talked about play that.
I think it was nine months ago when the updated
social media policy, which is public I think you tweeted
about it. A lot of other people did. Mean it
was made available to the public where if you were
a personality, quote unquote, you could talk about politics. It

(01:40:56):
was really confusing for It was confusing for me, and
it was confusing for a lot of people who worked
there because it was like, Okay, well, you know, how
are we really defining this. That wasn't the role I had.
I was a reporter. So if I even like favorite
in a tweet, which I had several examples of, like
we're talking tweet favorite play like not even anything that
I put out there, like the things you read to me,

(01:41:19):
I would get in trouble. I would get phone calls
so so you would get a call if you favored
it a tweet that was related to your conservative politically,
it was related like you're reading an article and you're like, oh,
I like this article. If you favorite it and it
had like a conservative slant to it's somebody at a
ESPN would monitor that and call you about it. Yeah,

(01:41:39):
it wasn't would like they did. So even if it
was a joke, let's say, you know, I mean there's
a political joke. It didn't even have to be something
about what I was leaning towards in terms of conservative values.
I would be afraid to even touch it because it
was that closely monitored. So and like I said, I
did get reprimanded. So a lot of people who work

(01:42:04):
there knowing that and have similar stories or just similar
experiences as what I'm telling you. I think found this
a little hypocritical, and um, it's just sort of like, well,
what's the line of what we can talk about. I
am not that person, and neither you play like we're
both on the same page. I'm never going to advocate
for someone to get fired or suspended. But I think

(01:42:26):
the issue people have here is the line at which
like what's acceptable there and what's not when it comes
to express in your opinion and and what happened in
the past day or two. They made it pretty clear
that okay, you'll issue a statement about it, but you're
really not taking any actions, so it doesn't line up
with other people. And to be quite honest, if you

(01:42:47):
hadn't highlighted it, I don't know if this would have
been a story in a lot of the sports blocks
play like it was just sort of blissfully ignored. And
then it when they issued that stay a minute, blew
up and here's where we are talking about it. But
that was another question to me, like why is this
not being discussed? It's an interesting question. So you were

(01:43:08):
at ESPN for a long time. Did you feel like
people who are liberal and people who are conservative are
treated the same in terms of being able to establish
political beliefs. No, I didn't feel like I was afraid,
terrified to admit anything like that. I was and honestly,
I'm more moderate to write leaning. I'm not as extreme

(01:43:31):
as people want to make it out to be. It's
just things, of course on social media, seams in black
and white. But like you you represent, like you know, like, okay,
you would, but you would have voted for a Republican
in your life, like you were nervous about that being
known at ESPN in a way that somebody who had
voted for a Democrat would not be. Is that fair
to say? Yes? And I when I got hired, it

(01:43:53):
wasn't like that though, Like it was still it was
about the sports, go figure and then get changed one.
So it's not even like I've had some people say, well,
if you're a sports reporter or your sports network, why
would that even be an issue? And that's a fair
statement to say, like why why would you take up
so much on this or why you know, be vocal

(01:44:16):
about what you are politically. But as the content shifted
and that became such a focus and the people getting
promotions to different shows and different platforms and other responsibilities,
we're talking about social and political issues, that is when
it became okay, one view is accepted, the other is not,

(01:44:37):
and if it's not accepted, you better be pretty quiet
about it. We're talking to Britt mckenry. Jamal Hill said
that Donald Trump got elected president because he was white.
She also said he got elected president because he was
white and racist supported him. Let's not go to part two.
Let's just say that an ESPN employee who is white
says Barack Obama got elected president because as he's black.

(01:45:00):
Is there any way that that employee keeps his or
her job. Absolutely not. I don't think anywhere you would, right,
I agree, I mean that that to me when I
look at it and she said Donald Trump got elected
president because he's white. I'm not even getting to the
second part, which is because all of his supporters are racist,
but just merely because of his race he got elected president.

(01:45:22):
If somebody said anywhere out there in sports media that
Barack Obama got elected president because he's black, then every
white person who said that would probably be fired. I mean,
is is that like? And certainly at ESPN they would be. Well,
then there's the implication that if you did vote for him,
something is morally wrong with you. So it's not just

(01:45:43):
attack on the individual, it's you know, that's that's a
that's a why, that's a big canvas of people that
you are criticizing and so and I think I mentioned
this once on your show, Clay, but when we got
caught off time wise, I actually, you know, it's about
just the respect of the White House that he was
in it. I have been invited to the White House

(01:46:05):
when Obama was there, when President Obama was in office,
and I went because of just my respect for who
holds that position. So I don't So now I'm just confused,
as you like, is this a no kay saying like that?
Statements like that are tolerated. I guess so. And this
ties in with other ways that people at ESPN have

(01:46:26):
been treated. Kurt Schilling gets fired for saying he doesn't
agree with the transgender bathroom bill. Mike Dick gets ushered
off the stage for saying he doesn't think Obama has
been a good president and he's voting for Donald Trump.
Doug Adler gets fired because he uses the phrase guerilla
effect during a Venus Williams match, and most recently and
prominently a story that OutKick broke last night. Linda Cone,

(01:46:48):
who I think you can speak to what the feeling
is about. Linda Cone, among people who work at ESPN,
was suspended by ESPN president John Skipper for saying that
ESPN had become too political and she thought they could
be alienating viewers for that reason. So she gets suspended
for saying she thinks the ESPN has become too political
and they're alienating viewers, which is not a very partisan

(01:47:09):
statement to make. Yet Jamal Hill says, the president's a
white supremacist. Only got a recollected president because of white racists,
and nothing happens to her. Let's start with this. What
is the view of Linda Cone among a lot of people,
men and women who work at ESPN. She's well liked, right, Oh,
she's amazing. She's one of the most respected people, not

(01:47:30):
just at the network but in the business, and she's
a great person. I have the utmost respect for her.
So when she got suspended, this was something that was
known quite a bit in a ESPN. I got tipped
off by a lot of people reacting to Jamal Hill
not getting any consequences for what she said at all,
And many people of a variety of backgrounds at ESPN said,
oh my god, this is so hypocritical because Linda Cone

(01:47:54):
comes out and says, hey, maybe we shouldn't be as political,
we could be alienating viewers, and she gets spended for that.
That was known inside of ESPN. What was the reaction
as you saw de Linda Cohne getting suspended for that.
I get only I'm not there anymore, so I just
sort of know how I feel. And I think she

(01:48:15):
made a really valid point. I think that these past
couple of days, these past couple of weeks show that
all of these distractions, whether it's the Sergio dip debacle
on Monday Night or these these statements that went viral
from Jamal Hill or the Robert Lee situation, there's just

(01:48:36):
a lot in play here that aren't It's not about
sports anymore. Like I had a look up because every
morning I checked different websites to see what's going on
in the world of sports that you know, the Indians
just tallied their twentieth straight win and they tied the
two thousand few athletics. Like that's a huge story and
and they're going for history. And that's not even a
story registering remotely on the radar because it's stuff like

(01:48:59):
this or you know, anthem protests or Colin Kaepernick tweeting
that he stands with it, and it's like, Okay, I
saw that tweet from him last night, Clay, and I thought, you, like,
you really don't want to play in the NFL, do you, Yeah,
he said that he supported Jamal Hill. He tweeted that
out Colin Kaepernick did last night, And you're supporting somebody

(01:49:19):
who said that the president of the United States is
a white supremacist. The only reason he got elected is
because he's white. All his supporters are bigots. And I mean, yeah,
I mean a lot of people who probably own NFL
teams voted Republican or voted Donald Trump. That's a direct
attack upon them because you're effectively saying they're racist too. Yeah.
And it's it's also kind of like, wherever the wind blows,

(01:49:40):
what what's Colin Kaepernick gonna stand or sit for? To
make a joke out of it um today And like
that's what we saw last night from his tweet. It's
like all every time he comes up and and critics
to defend him started supporters, they'll say, well, he should
be on a ross to right now, and they going

(01:50:01):
on and on. Seen it too, Clay, And it's like,
if that was the case, then I just think there
should be more dedication of football, not putting yourself out
there for every cause that you're not even related to.
In this case is saying, essentially you stand with claiming
the president is a white supremaciss which by the way,
is ironic because Colin Kaepernick didn't vote. So if you

(01:50:24):
really feel like a white supremacist is running for the
White House, isn't an incumbent upon you to at least
make the effort to go out to your local polling
place and vote for president. Because Colin Kaepernick said he
didn't think it mattered who got elected because he also
didn't like Hillary Clinton, so he decided not to vote.
It's ironic that you're going to be so outspoken politically
and not take the time to do the most important

(01:50:45):
thing from a political perspective, which is just step into
a voting booth and actually have your voice heard. Yeah,
and I think these bold claims of Donald Trump so
a white suprise from supremacist or you know Michael's in
it claim that the police racially profiled him in Las Vegas,
and you and I both discussed at separate times ourselves

(01:51:07):
for respected outlets. It's it's just I don't understand where
it became, you know, guilty first until proven innocent or
that we just people don't get all the facts before making,
uh conclude, jumping to conclusions. To say someone as a
white supremacist is a very bold, very serious claim and

(01:51:28):
without facts to back that up or anything based in racism,
it's it could ruin somebody. I mean, obviously it's not
gonna hurst statement talking to ruin President Trump. But that's
not a good trend to set. I I analogize that.
I said, Look, if you're going to accuse somebody of
being a white supremacist, to me, it should be the
equivalent of like you're saying, Hey, you're a pedophile or
you're a child molester. Right, Like, nobody just passes those

(01:51:50):
accusations out there willy nilly because they're aware. Wow, that's
a really serious thing to accuse somebody of. If you
are accusing the president of the United States of being
white supremacist, that is advocating in a way that only
benefits white people, that is everything that is connected to
white supremacy. That's every bit as charged of language, if
not more so than saying, Oh, the president's a pedophile

(01:52:13):
or the president is a child molester. If you wouldn't
say those without strong evidence, I don't understand how you
can just toss around a phrase like white supremacy. Also,
it's kind of hand in hand when you talk white
supremacy with the neo Nazis and everything that happened in Charlottesville.
President Trump's son in law is Jewish, pretty sure his

(01:52:34):
daughter converted. So if that's another sting inherently in his family,
I don't know how you can say that just based
on those events like that, it would be incredibly illogical
for a president who has grandchildren who are Jewish to
be in favor of Nazis, right, I think everybody out
there would be like, hey, there's probably not very many
grandparents out there who have Jewish grandchildren, regardless of what

(01:52:58):
their political beliefs are, who they that the Nazis are
a good thing, right like that? That's really kind of
a tough thing to reconcile, even for people who hate
Donald Trump. His daughter has converted to Judaism, his grandchildren
are Jewish, that would be a real surprise for him
to be a Nazi. Yeah, so, but like that's not
taken into account usually facts aren't. You can argue that

(01:53:20):
his response to Charlotte still certainly could have been better
and more direct, But when we make a claim about
a person as to what they are, it's just without anything.
I mean, that's just a very bold claim and I'm
surprised not much else was done about it too. We're
talking to Britt mckenry. How would you fix this. Let's
pretend that suddenly John Skipper gets fired, everybody goes insane.

(01:53:43):
Britt mckenry is now put in charge of ESPN. Yeah, yeah,
that would definitely be entertaining for me and for a
lot of other people out there. All Right, so you
are now in charge of ESPN, you are interested in politics,
you have political beliefs. I think both of us would
say we're not opposed to Jamal Hill being able to
share her political beliefs, right, but it's clear that there's

(01:54:04):
not a balanced equation at a place like ESPN, or
even in the sports media in general, where people feel
like they're comfortable and able to say things if they
didn't don't agree with the prevailing sentiment. By the way,
for people out there listening, The Big Lead Great website
run by my buddy Jason McIntyre did a poll for
the two thousand sixteen presidential election. Four percent of the

(01:54:25):
sports media, and their poll voted for Donald Trump. In
other words, nine percent of the sports media voted against him.
So how would you go about setting a policy that
makes sense for politics and sports. I think there are
two options, and you might have a different one. I
think one option is nobody talks about politics at all
at ESPN. We are a sports network. If you want

(01:54:46):
to talk about politics, you can work other places. We
pay you a lot of money to talk about sports.
The other one is we're gonna allow everybody to say
whatever they want about politics. It's a full and open forum.
We're not gonna judge you for what you say ab
politics because it shouldn't be reflected upon our brand, because
everybody knows you're speaking for yourself, not for our company.

(01:55:06):
What would you do or do you have a better solution?
I would choose the latter, um within reason. I mean,
I just don't think you can make direct attack like
that on a person. I tweeted it. It became part
of the moments of the story, along with several others,
including your tweets. Clay about the the Gamel situation, that

(01:55:28):
if someone in the media had said that about Barack Obama,
as we mentioned earlier in the segment, they most certainly
would have the harshest of backlash and discipline, especially in
this industry. So I don't think the direct attacks should
ever be okay or warranted. But yeah, I think that
it should be allowed in the sports conversation when it

(01:55:54):
within reason, when it happens, when there's a reason to
talk about it, and then have all sides and all perspectives.
In fact, I thought Will Caine was really good when
he was added into the mix on first take and
and brought that perspective to the table. For me, it
was good television and it was interesting and included all
all of the audience. Otherwise, I think it should just

(01:56:14):
be all right, let's just go with the highlights of videos.
Let's stick to sports outstanding stuff. As always, Britt, we'll
talk to you next week. Thank you, that you. That's
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slash scan. All right, who do we go to? Jason Martin?
Should we finish off with some calls here? People have
been waiting a while. Yeah, Esquire had chimed in earlier
for a couple of seconds and then he dropped. But
he's called back in, so let's go back to Esquire.
All right, I'm gonna ask you guys to be fast
because I'm gonna try to get all of you in

(01:57:39):
who are waiting right now as many of as you can. Esquire.
What's up? A man? What's up. You're not racist? What
yours are? Very opinionated, and being a journalist and a
study your words, you use big words likely and they
sometimes when you're explaining your opinion and the people don't
have diptionaries, looked word up and figure out that you're
not saying something racist. But what that fella needs to

(01:58:01):
do at the racism tape measure and you are both
throughout the day count the number of times used in
word to refer to someone black, and then he calls
in tomorrow morning and tell you how many times he
used it, and you say how many times you used it?
And that was show who's actually racist even though he
thinks he's not. As long as he's putting down people

(01:58:23):
of color like that every day, every few minutes, he's
just as racist as the biggest racist he thinks. And no,
you're not racist. From that, appreciate the people racist against Warrior,
you're Alabama fans. I am racist against Alabama fans. That's
for damn sure. I wish they would lose some football

(01:58:44):
games every now and then. That's a hell of a call.
Good luck to Auburn, they need it. That gust Malls
on offense ain't working well. Julian and Oakland, what's up, Julian, Hey,
what's going on? Clay living the dream? What's up with you?
Good brother? Happy six years. I'm a big fan of
listen to you for four years? Real quick, You're not racist,
You're just a realist. You tell the facts. Also, whatever

(01:59:05):
happened to Mikey from Auburn. I want to hear his opinion.
And I'll be calling you back, um, either by Friday
or next week, because I got some of my Jim
buddies who U heard me listening to you and we
should interview him there naked all the time? All right,
call back in, make a gym room interviews. Locker room
interviews big part of the show. Thanks for the call,
Julian and Oakland. Miguel is a Miguel in Salt Lake City. Miguel,

(01:59:28):
what's up? Hey? What's up playing? How you doing? I'm
leaving a dream, Miguel. Originally I'm from Panama and I'm
I'm a quarter black Quoter, native Panamanian and have European
and uh and I don't. I don't call muself black
because I mean I'm not because of the color of
my skin. Isn't black. But um, I think at some

(01:59:49):
point everybody could make racial comment. But that doesn't make
people racist. And U one of the biggest things, one
of the things I always remembers Professor World History Professor
that he said, the people segregate themselves. It doesn't matter
where you come from. If you come from another country

(02:00:10):
and you come to America, you need to integrate. You
need to accept the culture and live the way we
live in America. But I think a lot of times,
especially in black neighborhood or or Hispanic neighborhood, people call
themselves like African American or Mexican American, and and and
they're born in America. You know, they don't know anything
about Africa, they don't know anything about Mexico. So you know,

(02:00:33):
you just I mean, if if you're proud of what
you are, that's fine. But back in my country, in Panama,
people that represent a for example of soccer team and
you interview and the majority of players are black. Yeah,
I gotta let you go, aga, because we got a
heart out here. It's a good call. I don't think
hyphenated Americans make sense. The great thing about America is
we take everything and We're a melting pot. We take

(02:00:55):
the best of the entire world and we make it ours.
That is what my America represents. You say I'm not racist.
Thousands of you have voted. Thanks for hanging with us
today here on Fox Sports Radio.

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