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November 22, 2017 44 mins

Dan Beyer and Jonas Knox fill in for Doug. They discuss the Seahawks loss to the Falcons and if this is the end of their run in the NFC. A very special edition of "The John Ramos Show". They talk to Jaguars Tight End Marcedes Lewis about their 7-3 start to the season and if living in Jacksonville is better than living in Los Angeles. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the best of the Dog Dot Leaf Show
on Fox Sports Radio. Boom on a tool day, Jenny Romos,
you got a boom for us as well. Boom Oh,
listen to the base on this vk our edition. We
are in for Doug Gottlieber on Fox Sports Radio. Oh,

(00:21):
Thanksgiving Week. You know what I love about Thanksgiving Weeks
is the Maui Invitational. I really, It's one of those
things I do. I love it. So we've got Wichita
State Marquette action going on right now, but there's something
that's just a great feel about it. I get that
feeling of Thanksgiving Week. A buddy of mine lives in Maui,
and I see on his Instagram page that he like,

(00:44):
this is one of his favorite times because this is
a big deal there. Like a lot of the events
will show up in Honolulu or on the island of Wahuo,
but not many go to to Maui, and so this
is a huge event there. So they've got beer tent setup.
I saw they had ConA big wave and longboard set up.
People are drinking beers, watching college basketball. I would gamble
on every single thing you could possibly gamble on, Like

(01:06):
I swear to God, I would everything. I'd gamble. I'd
gamble on whether or not a ref tripped, the over, under,
point spreads, you name it. What a good time in Maui.
I love the Maui Invitational because it leads you right
into Thanksgiving. Then we've got the three NFL games, of
course on Thursday. This year's games Jonas Giants, Redskins kind

(01:28):
of a whatever on Thursday night, but Vikings line should
be good, Chargers Cowboys should be interesting. It sets up
the whole great week of sports. And of course Friday
you've got college football. But I gotta be honest, I'm
really having a difficult time putting the Monday in my
rear view mirror after last night's Falcons victory over the
Seahawks thirty four to thirty one in Seattle, And really

(01:50):
what made me think? And as I sit here and
it's known I follow the Seahawks my whole life, I
don't want to sound like a homer as we tell
talk about this, but last night's loss just really really
bothered me. I really, there is something that's stuck with me.
Minutes after the game, hours after the game, even waking

(02:12):
up this morning. It's it's just not a good feeling.
And this is this is now the second time in
consecutive home games that the Seahawks have lost to what
I think is an average team in the NFC, And
these are games that the Seahawks hadn't lost in the past.
And I just I'm trying to put my finger on

(02:32):
why it's bothering me so much, Okay, And just to
peel back the curtain a little bit. As we were
talking before the show, you alluded to this, and I said,
surprise me on the air, Okay, So don't don't tell
me why it's bothering you, because I'm fascinated to know,
because to me, that's just another game last night. You
really you didn't lose any ground in the division the
Rams lost this weekend. You're clearly the two best teams

(02:53):
in that division. Why this game did this one bother you?
Because it was one of those games where there was
you know, some turns, you know, a defensive touchdowns, a
mistake at the end of the first half on potentially
having three points. I mean, that's why I'm curious to
see why this one bothered you. Because they've had other losses.

(03:13):
They've lost obviously a few times this year, So why
this one? This one bothered me because it signified something
to me that I didn't realize that that time was here,
and that is this team as zero margin of error,
that they won't work things out. And there are things
that have gone on in the past four or five
seasons with this Seahawks team that I don't want to

(03:34):
say Seahawks fans took for granted, but that's probably pretty fair.
How many Russell Wilson comebacks have we seen? How about
Monday Night magic? We even talked on the show yesterday
on the network about the pail Mary that the Seahawks
had on Monday Night. How about the night a couple
of years ago and kJ Wright knocked the Calvin Johnson
fumble out of the back of the end zone, another
controversial win. The Seahawks have come back before. They had

(03:58):
a great late win against Buffalo. Last your Monday Night
magic seemed to be there, and last night, Jonas it
was on the verge of happening. It was almost there
until Blair Walsh's field goal comes up short in the
final seconds. And it was that, along with everything else
in the game and all that I had heard leading

(04:18):
up to the Monday night game was how this Seahawks
team is really gonna miss Richard Sherman, How Cam Chancellor
isn't gonna be there, This defense is done, This team
has done. It is over for the Seahawks. In Vegas
said as much as well. The Seahawks open as a
two and a half point favorite. By the time kickoff
came around, Atlanta was favored by a point, and there
were a lot of people who were really like the

(04:40):
Falcons in this game, and I felt it was an
opportunity for the Seahawks to prove them wrong. All right,
So let's let's go ahead and dive into this right here.
Let's do a This is kind of going to the doctor.
We're gonna see what symptoms you have, and we're gonna
go ahead and diagnose this and see what really has
bothered you. Okay, So clearly it bothers you from from
a fan standpoint, although you're not fanatical and you don't
let it depress your entire week like fans that are

(05:00):
listening right now in Fox Sports Radio, and if that's you,
that's fine. Okay. So so clearly that bothers you. Did
you have fantasy football implications? No, Okay, so that that
will cross back to Julio Jones on my team. Okay,
so that yeah, so that's actually go. I was down
by a lot. There was no way I was going
to be able to come back and win. Did you
go to the betting window at all during that game
or before I picked? I picked the Seahawks. I did

(05:22):
pick the Seahawks in a in a pool that I'm in. Okay,
so that probably burned you a little bit, you know, yeah, yeah,
But was it a make or break game for the pool? No,
not not make or break. Not make or break, but
you know, it really could have helped. What did you
have for dinner or what were you dining on while
you were watching the game. I did have some leftover
Nashville chicken strips, okay, chicken tenders? Were they cooked to

(05:47):
your liking? They taste okay? Perfect? My wife did a
great job. How cold was the mountain dew? The mountain
dew was fresh? Number one? And gosh, did I even
have a mountain dew last night? That may have is Yeah, folks,
we done it. We have done it. Air out of applies,
we have done it. Yes, it was the mountain dew
and listen. I get it, dan O. Look, I get

(06:09):
it like I get the shakes. I get the shakes
if I go twenty minutes without doing a shot of vodka.
So I understand. Listen, And that's just some of us
to have different tastes. And I don't know why you're laughing, sir.
It's not that funny. So the Mountain dew, I think
was the really problem with this. Their margin of air
with or without the Mountain dew is gone like this,
Like the Falcons weren't even that good last night. That's

(06:30):
the thing that bothers me as I've watched this Atlanta
team as well. The Seahawks on the opening kickoff allow
Atlanta to get the ball at midfield. The next possession,
Russell Wilson is picked off and the balls returned to
the Seahawks thirty yard line, so another short field for Atlanta.
The Seahawks then on Atlanta's next score, it ends up
being a fumble by Russell Wilson, allowing the Falcons to

(06:53):
pick it up and score. It wasn't like that. They
really missed Cam Chancellor and really missed Richard Sherman last night.
The defense was all right. The problem was they couldn't
get off the field on third down, and they didn't
get to Matt Ryan. They had just one sack, which
was actually right at the two minute warning at the
end of the game, which allowed them to get the
ball back and try to score and kick a field goal.

(07:14):
Their time management at the end just wasn't right yet.
A minute fifty five, I oh, you didn't have any timeouts,
but about a minute forty or so to get the
ball in the field goal range and you could only
get a fifty one yarder. That was an issue last night.
The mistakes that they made. The fake field goal was okay,
this is yeah, here we go. I'm sorry to go
off of oh, I love it. The fake field goal

(07:36):
at the time seemed crazy. It seemed ridiculous. You don't
want to give the team momentum coming into the second half,
and the Seahawks were getting the ball in the second half,
so you would have been down four at the time
and had the football to maybe come back and take
the lead in the opening part of the second half.
The issue with the field goal, as they look back

(07:57):
on it, it was blocked up for one spot and
that was Grady Jarrett. If Grady Jarrett doesn't make his
move along the defensive line. Luke Wilson scores a touchdown
on that play and the game doesn't come down to
that field goal because it's played out differently. It's not well,
they could have used those three points. Then Atlanta goes
for it on fourth and one at the at the

(08:18):
inch line that they had instead of kicking the field
goal to go up two scores that that's taken out
of the equation at that time. The seas would still
have that deficit. But the fake field goal was a
desperate move, and the Seahawks only make desperate moves when
they are needed. Desperate times call for desperate measures, and
that's what we saw last night. And Jonas I think

(08:39):
that is the true meaning. They ran a fake field
goal in the NFC Championship game against the Packers a
few years ago, right down sixteen to nothing and needed
to get some get some points in that game. They
don't make You didn't need to make desperate moves when
you had a great defense. You didn't need to make
desperate moves when you knew that your offense could pull
you through. They made desperate moves last night, and they
looked like a desperate team and if they knew it,

(09:01):
I think that's what really bothered Well, Dan, we've got
three hours to event and we'll let you do so
we are here for you. Be sure to catch live
editions of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm
Eastern noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Mercedes Lewis joines this year on Fox Sports Radio. Good afternoon, Marceides,
How you doing. I'm doing, well, what's going on? Let's

(09:22):
start here. Is this the most fun you've had during
your what twelve seasons in Jacksonville? I mean you were
there early when there was some success, You're there during
the down times. Now the upswing is there. Is this
the most fun you've had so far in your career
in that Jaguars uniform? Yeah? Yeah, so I think, you know,
as far as back as I can remember, I think
this is the best time I've had playing ball. You know,

(09:45):
what's that defense like to go against in training camp
and in practice? Well, definitely challenging. I think that was
one of the biggest differences this year. You know, camp
was actually a dog fight every single day. We knew that,
you know, by doing that, and by going against them
every day, you know, we we've created an environment's been

(10:07):
really competitive, and I was definitely you know, rolling over
into Sunday. Have you seen like over these last couple
of years, I mean, I mean, really, you guys have
added pieces on defense, but was there a point where
you could see in practice going up against them, that hey,
this crew is something special. Do you do you ever
remember an instance like that? Uh, not a particular instance.

(10:29):
I just think that, you know, every day it was
just crueling, right, and it was it was like how camp.
How you would think about it, Like if somebody you
know has never seen an NFL game but heard about
chaining camp and had all these horror stories about it.
I think that was exactly how it was, you know.
I mean it was long days, short nights. The grind

(10:53):
was real. You know, it was no it'll make a
punk out of year if you let it, you know,
And I think it was good for the team. Challenge
does put us in the right mind state for what
this year was gonna Uh, this year was gonna be.
So it definitely worked out for us and we're just
looking at it, you know, is that a Doug Maron thing?

(11:14):
Marcedes Lewis joining us here on Fox Sports Radio Tonan
for the Jaguars or is it a Tom Coughlin thing?
What has been different about this year? I think it's
a make sure of both. I think, you know, they
both share share similar ideas on you know, how they
think the football team should be ran and I think
that they've been doing a good job of getting a
point across. Uh. You know, obviously, you know, I don't

(11:35):
sit in meetings with him, but it seems like they're
pretty collaborative on, you know, what they expect out of
us and what they expect for us to be getting
done during during the season. From a national standpoint, Blake Bortles,
your quarterback, gets a lot of a lot of people
give him a hard time and criticize his play and
they like to call him out. And that's just the
way the NFL is with social media. How is he

(11:58):
different with you guys and how has he reacted to
some of the criticism that he's faced. Man, Blake is
one of the coolest dudes that I know. You know,
he's not weathered by anything, and you know, he goes
out there to try to be the best he can
be every single day, and that's all you can ask.
Whether you're doing bad or doing good, people are always
gonna have things to say, and they're always gonna try

(12:19):
to pick holes in your game. But that's what critics
are four and that's what they do, right. So at
the end of the day, we still got to go
out there and we have to get in between the
lines and do our job. And as long as he's
going out there and giving us all and bringing his
best every weekend, that's all we can ask for. Marcades
Lewis of the Jacksonville Jaguars joining us as I mentioned,
joining Brad Measter and Jimmy Smith, is only the third

(12:40):
Jaguar to start at least one hundred and fifty games.
I know you're an LA guy, but are you now
a Jacksonville guy? For being there as long as you have?
Is it? How do you get? How do you do
yourself now? I mean, you went to school, you're at UCLA,
You're from southern California. But this is twelve years in Jacksonville.
As I mentioned, people don't even remember the time that
the Jaguars were actually in the playoffs. You were on

(13:02):
that team in two thousand and seven. Are you not
a Jacksonville guy instead of an l A guy. Uh
not really, because in Jacksonville don't really go nowhere. You know,
I'm normally I'm normally at work or off my feet.
I don't really get out in the city too much.
Maybe go to the movies and or go to dinner
or whatever. But other than that, I don't really do

(13:24):
too much. I just try to you know. I feel like,
you know, our job is is demanding enough on our
bodies that you know, if I'm out and doing a
bunch of stuff in the city other than you know,
giving back on them on my off day, then it's
gonna it's gonna just be counterproductive. So I just try

(13:44):
to stay off my feet as much as possible. That
is the nicest way to say. There's nothing to do
in Jacksonville. That is so nice. But you got to
stay there. You know, you got to play your entire
year there. You've been there your whole career, so you
know how it works. Mercedes. Let me ask you this, though,
You're you're getting to a point to where nowadays when
guys are talking about the future in the next phase
of their life and all that, obviously you're focused on football.

(14:06):
But have you sort of started to think about what
you want to do next and what the plan is
after the NFL career? Uh, well, you know, initially I
just want to I want to travel first of all,
go see the world for about a year and just relaxed, decompressed.
You know. I'm doing a little bit of stuff for
NFL Network, you know, and they're they're interested in me,

(14:28):
so I might look to be an analyst. It just depends.
You know, I have other business endeavors that I'm that
I'm doing and that are successful. So you know, I
have some things that you know, I'll be able to
get into when I'm ready to do it. How does
that make it that important this year? How much does

(14:48):
that play into you enjoying the season so much? Knowing that, hey,
there's stuff that's going to be down the line that
you want to do that really may not be that
far off. Say that again, how important is the with
the stuff that you want to do in the future.
I guess does that make this season that much more special?
Because you know, hey, this is year number twelve. You
don't know how long you're going to be playing. There

(15:09):
is stuff that you want to do on the on
the horizon that you've got in front of you. But
right now you're in the midst of a team that's
seven and three. How much does that play in knowing
that your career that you know, you don't know how
many years you're going to play in the NFL. Yeah,
for sure, I think, you know, I'm living in the
moment right now. You know. Obviously I've been here when

(15:29):
you know, we were doing pretty good and then obviously
headed downfall and now we've climbed ourselves back out of that,
and so it's been, you know, amazing to be a
part of it and to be an integral piece, you know,
not just a guy that's just happy to be here
and happy to be wearing a jersey. It's a blessing,
always been a privilege for me, you know, twelve years in,

(15:51):
thirty three years old, named the captain, still playing at
a very high level, you know, and I still have
you know, some football left in me. So it's just
good that you know, I'm at this point, uh and
we're doing really well. You know. It keeps me looking
forward to the future. Mercedes Lewis with us here before
I let you go. I gotta I gotta find this out.
This is one of my favorite things to ask. So,

(16:12):
you've been in the NFL a long time. If you
had to rank the top five trash talkers in your
career that you dealt with in the NFL, what are
your top five? And is Jalen Ramsey on that list? Uh?
When Jalen is young? Uh, and he's I don't really
have to deal with him like that. I know he
gets under everybody else's but he's probably not on my

(16:33):
list because that's my guy. So, but that that's a
that's a good question. I mean I feel like I
have I had to have time to really think about that. Mmmm.
Maybe Bob Sanders, Uh, Ed Reed, Ray Lewis, Uh, Joey Porter,

(16:58):
Oh yeah yeah, Jerry Party. Yeah, that's all I can
think of it. That's a good list. That's that's amazing.
Marcedes Lewis of the Jacksonville Jaguars joining us before we
let you go. Do you guys doing any standing watching scoreboard,
watching seeing what New England, seeing what Pittsburgh has done?

(17:19):
Or not? I mean, you you watch it when they're
on TV. You don't really go looking for it, you
know what I mean? If we catch it after one
of our games something, we'll watch it, but we're so
focused on what we have to do. Uh, we're literally
controlling our own destiny, all right, and so we could
just focus in on each game, have a great attention

(17:41):
to detail. We'll live as the results. Five touchdowns already
this season, the second most in his career twelve years
with the Jacksonville Jaguars. Marcedes Lewis, Hey, good luck the
rest of the season and we'll catch up when you
guys are in the playoffs. How about that, thanks, bro,
Marcedes Lewis of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Fox Sports Radio has
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(18:02):
all of our shows at Fox sports radio dot com
and within the iHeartRadio app. The Boston Celtics winners of
now their last sixteen after topping the Dallas Mavericks last
night one ten to one oh two Jonas in overtime.
Kyrie Irving magnificent again with forty seven points. They are
damn man Like. I was trying to think about this

(18:23):
because everyone, you know, a lot of people freaked out
when Gordon Hayward went down, and understandably so. And their schedule,
they've beaten good teams. But it hasn't you know, They've
beaten a lot of bad teams as well too during
the stretch. But what they've like every time they play,
they seem to get better and better and better. And
it's why after the trade was made, everyone made a
big deal about, oh my god, they traded away all

(18:45):
the guys that produced an Eastern Conference Finals birth last year.
You traded away all these players. What are you doing?
That team last year had reached its potential. That was
the best they were ever going to be under the
way it was currently assembled. And that's just a fact.
You saw the best they could possibly do under those circumstances.

(19:06):
So they retooled. They landed on a couple of draft picks,
they acquired an extra draft pick. They still got the
guy they wanted in Jalen and still got the guy
they wanted in Jason Tatum. Jalen Brown made a huge
jump in year two, and Kyrie Irving's been fantastic and
off the bench, you still have quality players. So a
lot of people were sort of, you know, shocked and

(19:27):
taken back by man. You guys were a couple of
games away from the NBA Finals, Why did you trade
all these guys away, Why did you get rid of
your current roster? Because they realized that they had peaked.
And I think so many times in sports, teams get
close and they go, you know what, I know, we
got close, So let's keep it all together and let's start,
you know, let's make another run at it. Ie the

(19:49):
Arizona Cardinals a couple of years ago, we're in the
NFC Championship game, got buried and then pretty much kept
the same team together, and guess what happened. They've declined
ever since. So credit to Danny Age and the Celtics
for seeing the writing on the lawn. What I think
is interesting is when you look at this sixteen game
win streak, which is happening in the month of November,
there was so much season still to go. But the

(20:11):
fact is is this isn't the Cavaliers or a Warriors
team doing this where you could make the argument this
team is peaking. This is still so fresh with what
Boston has done that I think it's different. Last year
we were searching for storylines to find in the NBA.
We're trying to find different things to talk about, and
Kevin Durant's returned to Oklahoma City was one of the

(20:32):
big things. But it was a pretty much a foregone
conclusion that we were going to get Calves Warriors for
the third straight year, and we needed drama last year. Yeah,
they knicked debacle all that stuff, absolutely, but this is
different than Golden State reeling off sixteen. This is different
than the Cavaliers reeling off sixteen because of everything that
you said, and because it is so early and you

(20:53):
wondered if there was going to be an adjustment time. Heck,
the Warriors last year, remember they were blown out opening
night against the San Antonio Spurs and Kevin Durant's first game.
Celtics lose two games and haven't lost since to open
the season. And that's what is different to me. Where
I don't want because I don't want to read too
much into what's happening in November and December to guess

(21:13):
what's gonna happen in April, May and June. But this
is different to me just for the fact of Heck,
the Kyrie trade was a late trade that happened. It
wasn't like it just happened right after the NBA Finals
and the week of the draft that they were able
to make a swap. This was a late trade and
to see how easy it is transitioned without Gordon Hayward,

(21:34):
who was going to be the number two guy. So
now you have al Horford moving up in a spot
of maybe being the number two option and Jalen Brown
moving up to number three. To see how seamless this
is gone. Is scary for the NBA as well, because
Brad Stevens, no doubt, is one of the top coaches
in the NBA and now when you give him the
pieces to work with, this is going to be very,

(21:55):
very I felt at times Jonas that talent was able
to over ride what the Celtics were doing, even though
like Brad Stevens's coaching could only do so much. And
now you see what they've done in eighteen games and
then the last sixteen. It shapes the East completely different
and just sets it up so intriguing for the rest
of the Eastern Conference and how this goes, because I

(22:16):
don't think that it's just oh, this is six months
away from the NBA playoffs. No, this is a big deal. Well,
it's hard to hit home runs in consecutive consecutively in sports.
If you're running a team it's hard to hit home runs,
like Tom Brady was a home run pick for the Patriots.
But if you go back and look at that draft class,
it was awful. Like New England was one of eight
or whatever it was. You know the Raiders oh Man
home run draft class a couple of years ago when

(22:37):
they got Khalil Mack and Derek Carr. Yeah, what have
they done since? You know, like they've I mean a
lot of these defensive backs that they've drafted, they're one
of the worst defenses in the league. Were secondaries in
the league. So it's hard to hit consecutive home runs
in the NBA. The only other team that hit consecutive
home runs like this was the Warriors. Because it was
controversial when they got rid of Mark Jackson, you know,
a lot of people said, what are you doing? They

(22:59):
started to show some sign of life here. They brought
in Steve Kurr that was a home run. Drafting Steph
Curry where they got him, that was a home run.
Draymond Green home run, Klay Thompson home run. Getting Kevin
Durant to work within that system was a home run.
Sean Livingston, andre Iguodala, like they hit home run after
home run after home run, and they're paying the dividends.
The Celtics Brad Stevens home run, the Kyrie Trade home run,

(23:23):
Jalen Brown, Jason Tatum home run. Oh and by the way,
you don't even need to do a damn thing in
free agency next year because Gordon Hayward's going to be
healthy again. That's a home run. It's the only other
comparable to this, and it's in the same sport. And
the reality is those two home run hitters might actually
meet up in the finals, like that might actually happen.
So yeah, it's I think it's really it's impressive. It's

(23:46):
I think they're better than I thought or anybody else thought.
But the idea that everyone just assumed that that last
year's team, you were so close, you know, keep it together.
All you need is to add a piece or tweak
a couple of things. They tweaked a lot and it's
paying off big time. These Celtics again, a four game
lead right now over the Raptors in the Eastern Conference
and then getting the number one seed this year will

(24:07):
be vastly different from a year ago. As he touched
on earlier, be sure to catch live editions of The
Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. He's an
NFL on Fox analysts and joins us each week here
on The Doug Gottlieb Show. Mark Slerat joins says, Hey, Mark,
have you thanksgiving Toon so much for taking the time today.

(24:28):
Absolutely happy today he's giving you guys as well. Let's
quickly start with the latest news. At least out of
Oakland is Ken Norton Junior. Was he the problem with
that Raiders defense is they now make a change with
their coordinator. Well, I mean, you know, I would say no,
I would say I don't care who your coordinator is.
It comes down to talent. And when you face the Raiders,

(24:50):
what do you facing really? I mean, you're finding a
way to get a double team or four hands, as
we like to say on one dude, next Judas Khalil Mack.
After that, I mean, you break a huddle. You're not
afraid of going against anybody on that defense. There's not
one other guy that you're like, oh my god, how
we're going to contend with that guy? So if they've
got one dude. You can take that dude out of
a game plan. And beyond that, it comes down to talent.

(25:13):
I don't care what you do as a coordinator. If
you don't have the talent around your football team to
coordinate it properly, it really doesn't matter. You can, you know,
you can have anybody calling defenses and it's just not
going to be that successful. So that, to me is
really the biggest problem at all three levels. There's one

(25:34):
dude that you have to contend within, and beyond that,
I don't think that's There's a whole lot else to say. So, yeah,
I don't think it's Ken Norton. Obviously you're trying to
shake things up a little bit, but the bottom line
is they're just not very good. Obviously we saw Mike
McCoy now obviously Ken Norton the next day. So coordinators
are being fired. We know that head coaches get fired
every single year in the NFL at the end of

(25:55):
the season. What is that like as a player though?
Take us into the locker room when a guy that
you've been studying under that he's been coaching or whether
it be a coordinator, an assistant, a head coach, and
they're fired. What is the mood like in the locker
room afterwards. Well, I think there's I mean, I think
there's a lot that goes into that. Obviously, if you're
not performing, if you like the guy, you feel bad.

(26:18):
You know, you feel bad when guys lose their jobs
and and and that's always a tough thing. I mean,
Ken Norton's had success, you know, in a lot of places,
as as Mike McCoy, and and it feels bad. You
feel like you let guys down, and that's always difficult.
And I think, you know, I think the bottom line
and this is a really tough business. I mean, it's
a it's a business of you know, as we like

(26:41):
to say, it's not a tryhard league. It is to
do good league. When you don't do good, people get fired.
And that's the way it goes. And sometimes, you know,
sometimes there's a bit of a cover your butt mentality
in the National Football League, and you look at at
certain guys who become the fall guy. And I think
the same thing is going on in Denver here. I
mean you look at the Denvers with Mike McCoy and

(27:01):
then Mike McCoy a sudden forget how to coordinate an
offense or did you just not have the right players
in place? And sometimes it just really comes down to
a lack of talent. Now, you can be stubborn and
you can continue to call the same things and get
the same results, and then scratch your head, go why
isn't it different? You know why guys getting better? Well,
you know, I look at it from a coaching standpoint.

(27:23):
Your job is to put your players in the best
position to make plays. And if you don't do that,
then that's on you. If you keep asking players to
do things that they can't do, that's on you. But
I think in both cases it really comes down to
the lack of talent that you're coordinating, whether it's McCoy
or whether it's Norton. Mark Schlaaz joining us here on
Fox Sports Radio talking NFL. Of course he's an NFL

(27:46):
on Fox analyst. More on the Denver situation. What is
the end game Paxton Lynch reportedly is going to start
in week twelve? Do you want us talked about the
coordinator change, and you guys dove into that, But what
is their end game with the quarterback position? Do they
believe that Paxson Lynch could be a guy. Or is
this just a way of them saying, Hey, we looked
at all of our guys, none of them are going
to work. We're going to try to address this in

(28:07):
the draft. Yeah. No, I think I think you've got
six games to prove it, and I think you know
the coaching staff. I mean, Paston Lynch has had two
years there, albeit different coordinators and different offenses. But you
have to understand that Trevis Simeon was having a shoulder
surgery or had a shoulder surgery in the offseason, so

(28:29):
he wasn't really able to participate in the OTAs. So
Paston Lynch was given every opportunity to win this game
or win this job from the onset, and you know,
he had all the OTAs to himself. He had the
training camp competition. He was really afforded the opportunity to
win that job, and he could win the job. And

(28:50):
so now you've got six games, and to me, it's
like this is a six game audition. Either proved that
you can play at this lay level, prove that you've
got what it takes to study and prepare and to
be a professional, and the bottom line is to be
an adult. And you know, there's not a lot of adults,
and you know, I played this game for a long time,
and you know, and we all have a little bit

(29:11):
of that Peter Pan sindrome menace. But when it's time
to work, you've got to be an adult, and especially
at the quarterback position, you've got to be an adult man.
You've got to have some maturity, you've got to have
some leadership qualities. You've got to be one of the
first guys in the building, one of the last guys
to leave it, and you've got to be dialed in.
And so to me, this is a six game audition
proved that you can play, or we're going to move
on and we're going to try to implement with Bill,

(29:33):
Bill Musgrave and you guys knowing well out there in Oakland,
you know you're gonna have to You're gonna have to
simple this thing down. Give him some you know, some
collegiate type of spread concepts that he can execute, meld
it together with what you're already running, and you hope
that as this the six games progress, you get more

(29:53):
and more concepts that are built on top of it,
and see if the guy can prove to be have
those leadership qualities and those professional qualities, and if not,
you're going in a different direction. But the six game
audition is it's fair? Probably not, but life isn't fair,
and you got to figure it out, you know, you
got to go out there and see if you can play.
He is Mark Schlaer, three times Super Bowl champion Fox
NFL analysts joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. So

(30:16):
they say that, and you would know this better than
anybody at the game. Championships are won in the trenches.
So what is the difference now that we're at this
point of the season, getting into late November Thanksgiving right
around the corner. We know who the teams that are
going to the playoffs, or we think we have a
pretty good idea are and the teams that aren't. What's
the difference at this time of the year physically mentally

(30:37):
between playing on a good team and a bad team. Well,
I mean good team. You have confidence, You know that
you can overcome things. You have confidence, not all as players,
but you have confidence in your coaching staff. And you
all go to Philadelphia and think about the Philadelphia Eagles.
They're playing the Denver Broncos. They lose, They're one of

(30:57):
the best left tack is one of my favorite players
to watch in Jason and he is a freak show.
The guy's been in the league fourteen years. He moves
like he's twenty five years old. He's three hundred and
thirty pounds and I'd say, hey, you know, I'll put
him at pound for pound as one of the best
athletes in football. He tears his ACL, he hears his MCL.
They put a new kid in, a young kid, guy
that hasn't really played, and they play the Broncos with

(31:19):
a great pass rushing guys that have the ability to
come off the edge, and you know what they do.
Reid zone run pass options, three step drops, five step drops,
get the ball out of a quarterback's hands, let him
attack the offensive line of scrimmage, let him attack the
defensive players, keep them off balanced. They didn't sniff Carson
Wentz and everybody thinks it's pass protection. You know. The

(31:40):
Dallas Cowboys have the same situation going on. What do
they do? They continue to keep the same exact offense
out there. They leave their left tackle Chas Green, who
hasn't played there, He's played some guard and they give
up six SATs to Adrian Clayborne, and I'm like, okay,
coaching staff, at what point did you think he was
going to learn how to block in that game? Was
it after the second sack, the third sack, the four sack,

(32:03):
the fifth sack? Was it after the sixth back that
you thought he was gonna figure it out? Like? Is
that his fault that he couldn't do that? Or is
it your dumb asses for leaving him in one on
one the whole day? And you know, and I look
at the Eagle staff and they go, hey, we got
a gun kid out here. Has it played a lot
facing the Broncos. Let's not leave them one on one
with von Miller a bunch. Let's figure out. Or if

(32:25):
we're gonna leave them one on one, let's make it
a three step drop, or let's make the five step drop.
This could get out of the quarterbacks hands. Let's give
him a chance to attack a line of scrimmage. You
pass the that he just isn't about laying back and
letting guys beat you up. It's about the way coaches
call plays. And that's the difference. You've got good teams
that understand their weaknesses and you know what they do

(32:46):
They put their players in positions, even their weakest players,
in positions to win. And when you do that, you
have confidence. No matter what we call, we're going to
be successful because our coaches are smart and our players
are good enough to execute it. Mark Schalra joining us
here on Fox Sports Radio. He's Jonas KNOCKX. I'm Dan
Byer in for Doug Gottlieb. I know this is kind
of a broad question, stink, but if you were to

(33:08):
construct a team, we talked about this earlier that maybe
having the superstar quarterback isn't the ultimate recipe to win
a Super Bowl, and I think if you look back
in history that there's a lot of evidence to that.
If you were to construct a team, and I'm not
talking salary cap and all that, what are the most
important aspects of a championship team that you feel that
a team needs to make a run in a Super Bowl?

(33:30):
Wain Well, I think, obviously, you know, the quarterback notwithstanding,
because let's face it, it's an important position, you know,
I think the biggest thing. And you know, I'll disagree
with Michael Irvin here, who's a friend, a dear friend,
but has lost his mind, you know, in the next
team that's won Superstar wide receiver away from winn the

(33:53):
championship will be the first team they ever won a
championship based on a Superstar wide receiver. You know those
Dallas Cowboy teams. You know, it's funny, those cowboy teams
he played on. You know, I'll never forget being in
Dallas watching them warm up and I'm waiting. I was
with their skins at the time, and I'm waiting and

(34:14):
I'm watching them warm up because I went out to
snap early in our offense. Our team hadn't come out yet,
and their offensive line was two and a. Larry no,
it was two and a. I don't think Larry Allen
was in quite in the league yet, but it was
two and a. It was Nate Newton, it was Mark Stepnowski,
maybe it was Kevin Gogan and it was Eric Williams.

(34:40):
And they had Nova Check and they had Emmett Smith,
and they had Aikman and Irvin and maybe you know
Alvin Harper. And I'm watching them more up. I'm going
I do believe we're gonna get her ass kick. We
don't have one guy on our offense could start on
that offense, you know, and in the bottom line. I
always have believed this. You build a team from the
inside out, you dominate and control line of scrimmage, both

(35:03):
offensively and defensively, and you'll win a hell of a
lot more games than you lose. And you can make
up for a quarterback that's maybe not an elite level quarterback,
but is good enough to you know, to get you
as long as you're in manageable third down situations, to
convert and to keep you know, to keep the chains moving,
and to score enough to win. And that to me

(35:24):
is what football is truly all about. As the rules
change and it becomes more and more of a passing
league and all those different things. You dominate a line
of scrimmage, you win, and you'll win a hell of
a lot more than you'll lose. And that's really the
way I would build a team. And you look at
the teams that can dominate a line of scrimmage, You
look at the teams that can play that way, and
those teams are gonna lose or they're gonna win a

(35:45):
lot of games. Now there's a couple of guys that
transcend that, right Aaron. Aaron Rodgers transcends it. You know,
Brady transcends that. Drew Brees probably transcends that to a degree.
But there's three guys. Honestly, there's three guys in the league,
and you know, and the rest of them, you know,
you're just not gonna win unless you can really dominate

(36:07):
a line of scrimmage, and that will never change. It's
about blocking people, and it's about you know, and it's
about tackling and defending people. And if you can do that,
you're gonna win a lot of games. Mark Shlak, before
we let you go. Besides the Cleveland Browns, we know
about the Browns, But is there a team in the
NFL that you would be really concerned with if you
were a fan long term? Oh? My good. Well, I

(36:31):
mean there's a lot of teams. I mean, I think
you know, I can't necessarily point a finger at any
team in general. I would just say I would just
say this. I mean, if the Jaguars can turn it
around by going out and you know, and hiring Doug
Morone and getting Tom Coughlin and kind of changing what
they want to do or what they want to be

(36:51):
as a football team, then I would say that pretty
much anybody can turn it around, and we've seen it
with the Rams in general. The Chargers would be a
team because they feel like a team without a home,
and you know, you go and I called the Chargers
game earlier in the season, and there was probably seventy
percent of the fans sitting in that thirty thousand seat
stadium or twenty seven thousands each stadium that were Eagle

(37:13):
fans there, And so they would be a team that
I would be concerned with from that standpoint. But I
think there's probably you know, ten, maybe twelve teams who
have ownership that really want to win championships, and then
the rest of the teams I really believe are in
it to make money and to grow their franchise wealth,
and they're not worried about about winning at any you know,

(37:37):
high degree. You know, if it happens, you know, if
it's an outlier, then great, But I don't believe they're
truly committed to winning. And that part, to me is
what kind of frightens me about the league. Mark Schlera's
NFL on Fox analyst. Of course, you can find them
on Twitter at Mark Shalah. Thanks. Think we do it
again soon? Yeah, absolutely, guys, do well. Fox Sports Radio

(37:57):
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(38:17):
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John Ramos. He says exactly what Suzanne tells him to say.
Damn no, I'm not taking it off on the Doug
Gottlieb Show. It's the John Ramo Show. Amazing. Let's get up,
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(38:39):
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I want to know how do you celebrate a tasty Tuesday.
Maybe you order some pizza, you dive into some chicken wings,
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(39:00):
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I have my psychic Ryan here with me. Yeah. John,
it's so good to be back. Let's do it. What
a great Monday night football game we had last night, Ryan,
between the Falcons and the Seahawks. You got that right, John,

(39:22):
the Falcons almost blew another lead. You're right, and it's funny.
I don't really know what blowing the lead actually feels like.
I'm not sure what you're talking about, John, What do
you mean? Well, in soccer, we're always losing. I never
have a chance to blow it. My favorite phrase is

(39:43):
in the history of sports, and I'll share them with you.
Next on the John Rommel Show, it's spider Man from
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say that's Jonas Knox. I'm Dan Byer. Oh we're back
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(40:13):
that's right. You just gotta start a pink, don't forget.
She'll join me here up on the stage later on
for an in depth interview about her life, career and
everything in between. Also, we have a John Rammel Show
exclusive something you won't hear on any other show in
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(40:33):
for twenty twenty one. I'll go game by game, breaking down,
telling you if they're gonna win or news. Well, here's
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let's get to today's top ten list of my favorite
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(40:55):
of team. Whenever someone gets injured, we bring the next
guy down the line. Thanks for joining us, Pink. Number nine.
We like to look at the schedule several games ahead.
We think about multiple games at one time. Up the
times gets straights. We now move ahead in the program

(41:19):
really long. We are really good. We don't have to
improve at all or get any better. And number one
have the drug world never left within it is what
it wasn't really good? Full Tipe show, Tony, what is

(41:45):
that Anoise? Look at that guy loves buttons doesn't know
what's going on? Oh, Balgan traffic. This is a know
for the people, and buy the people and we're here
from you. Next on the John Ramos Show, He's drunk,

(42:12):
He's drunk, Dan, that's amazing. Is this musical guest just
kept playing? They keep playing and it's so clear. It's
like it's off their album. It's not like live or anything.
They're so good. Let's hear it for Pink. Yeah, sounds
like we're violating copyrights. Hey, what's going on with Chris Daguilera.
Don't worry, We'll get to that before the ende of

(42:34):
the show with Pink during our end depth interview. Also
coming up, we'll check it with my cousin, Jose the
show killer and you don't know what? Oh are we
stealing old Dan Patrick show nicknames? Now and you do
not want to miss it because Jose always comes in

(42:57):
and kills it. But right now it's time for you,
the loyal audience of the John Ramo Show. Let's open
up the mail bag John Ramos Show Mailbag. I'll what
do you have for me? What do you have for you? Guys?
All right? That was me taking out my ball. Are
we sawing a female? I'll go first. Yes, this comes

(43:21):
from Sean and Boston. He John loved the show. I'm
a diehard Patriots fan. It looks like the Patriots finally
figured out their defensive issues. Do you think they can
win it all again this season. That's a great question. Wow,
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(43:44):
this is a from Kevin in Denver. Talk a lot
about Denver obviously, h Ramos. I just saw that the
Broncos are going to start Paxton Lynch at quarterback this week.
Is he really a better option than Brock Osweiler or
even Trevor Simeon. Well, that's a great question, seriously, a
very good question from Kevin. He could be. I got
one from Ashley here in Cleveland. Hi, John, big fan

(44:08):
of the show, love your work. Yes, the Celtics look
really good this season, and as a Cavaliers fan, I'm
a little worried. Are they going to prevent lebron from
going to the finals again? Oh? No, it's another great question.
They have all been really really great questions tonight. That's
all the time we have for you. A big thanks
to everyone who tweeted in using the hashtag the John

(44:28):
Ramo Show. Also thanks to Pink for being tonight's special guests.
But I'm so sorry Pink. We'll have to get to
you next time. And Ryan, I'll catch you on my backside,
all right. I thought it was the backside, but I'll
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