June 22, 2018 • 46 mins
Doug gets you ready for the 2018 NBA Draft tells you what he thinks of this year's draft class and how they will translate into the NBA. He discusses the Cavaliers' future and why he thinks they are doing the right thing but hanging onto Kevin Love and the 8th pick in the draft. Oklahoma football head coach Lincoln Riley joins the show to talk about his former QB Baker Mayfield transitioning into the NFL and what to expect from the Sooners next season.
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Draft with Karen Butler, Jason McIntyre, and Chris Brussard. McIntyre
will join us with some hot takes. He's got his
own muck draft that will get to in fifteen minutes. Um,
Dwight Howard's gonna get bought out after getting traded yesterday.
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We have some Lincoln Riley's gonna join us, head coach
of Oklahoma who one year in Gotta Pay Bump. Dante
Jones will join us. Later on the show. We'll talk
a little bit about Baker Mayfield's appearance in the Herd,
and uh I will mention that the Cleveland Cavaliers are
doing the right thing by not openly opining and doing
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everything it can they can to uh to to beg
and plead to keep Lebron James. All of that upcoming.
But um, did you guys know this that literally has
been changed in the Webster's Dictionary? Are you aware of this?
This is Look, millennials have brought some great things to
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the table, Ryan Music, your generation, you guys have done
some good things. Avocado toast. This is a good thing.
It really has, um and I do think that being
aware of many political topics is important, but the changing
the definition of literally ranks above going from aware to
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being woke. It really does that. That's what it does.
That millennials has spoken and because they use the word
literally wrong so many times, that they've done what anyone
who makes the rules will do, and that they've changed
the rules. Literally in Webster's Dictionary not only means what
literally means, but it also means what figuratively means. And
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the changing of the dection definition of literally is like
the changing definition of talent. Look in my business. In
my business, when you're on air, when you speak into
the microphone, we are called talent. That's what the NBA
Draft is this year. Don't get me wrong. There's some
really good players. Like if I if I squint a
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little bit and I see Marvin Bagley, I'm like, he
could be Chris Posh. I get it. I like it.
He could be Chris Bosh. When I look at some
of the players in the league and I'm like, hm hmm.
Look I watched Chandler hutcheson play from Boise State. I'm like, oh,
that's a three indie guy, a long arm, can really shoot,
not much of a ball handler, only goes right. He
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could be Trevor Reasa. But there is no Ben Simmons,
I don't believe in this draft. There's definitely no Lebron,
James Carmelo, Anthony Duane Wade in this draft. And so
talent is a literal word, but by literally I mean
figurative word. Right, we have to adjust to what this
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talent is Bagley's tremendous. I actually have him as the
number one prospect in this class, and I have Colin
sections number two, DeAndre and not even the top two.
But he'll go number one tonight. We'll get to why
in a second. But the point is that when you
use the word when you said this draft, how talented
is this draft? Like, well, I actually think it's pretty
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talent wunted, maybe more so than last year. And some
of you will sit there and go, wait a second,
that's blasphemy. I watched last year's NBA draft class play
so great in the NBA playoffs, Right, that's what you're
That's what you're told, that's what you're led to believe,
that last year's NBA draft. But then you look in
Marquel Foltz, Markuel folts One obviously struggled this year with
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his confidence, and we're told with the shoulder. Alonzo Ball
only played fifty three games. I think he'll be a
good player, but for for about three quarters this season,
he was the worst shooter in the NBA. Jayson Tatum
had a tremendous playoff run average fourteen a game in
the regular season. That's a win. Josh Jackson does anybody
remember what he did for the Phoenix Suns. Dearon Fox
was okay with Sacramento, Jonathan Isaacs, the Project Lorie Marketing
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played well for for the Bulls that were terrible and
they were tanking. You know, Dennis Smith got some great dunks,
but can't shoot like you go down and like Malik
monk Za College Ben's player too young for Gonzaga. The
problem is that we are now plucking guys younger and younger.
If you don't go, it ain't cool, right, and everybody
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coming out soon soon becomes Miles Davis stug Otlam Show
here on Fox Sport Trade. The point is that even
if you look at last year, you look at last year,
you're gonna sit back and you're gonna say, may Donovan
Mitchell and you're right, he's tremendous. Hey, Jason Tatum, You're right,
he's tremendous. Um even O g Edi boy Is is
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going to be a fantastic player. Kyle Kuzma at seven
the first round, there's a a stud player, but there's
twenty two other dudes, many of whom did nothing this
year in the NBA. So I actually think, I actually
believe that This is a more talented draft than last
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year's draft, but I also believe that it's not one
of the great drafts of our lifetime, and it's not
going to produce once in a you know, generation changing
basketball players. It's just we don't have that type of
weaponry coming out of the college game. And one reason
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is it's it's really hard to tell because we haven't
seen him long enough. It's weird because basketball is in
great shape in terms of the overall talent in the sport,
but bad shape in terms of our knowledge of these players.
The fact the fact that I have to explain to
you who have these players are only proves my point
that they're coming out to Really college should be used
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only two to build your your game, but build your brand.
But we're hurting both games by doing so. Be sure
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throughout the entire first round the draft, beginning at seven
Eastern Time. In addition to the latest Lebron and Kauai rumors.
They'll have predictions and analysis of all thirty picks in
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seven Eastern right here on Fox Sports Radio, Stull got
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live show and let's welcome in Jason McIntyre. Jason, here's
the story. Okay, this is the honest and goodness story.
So to just fifteen years ago, two thousand three. Um,
I was a late addition to the ESPN radio draft broadcast.
Jim Durham now who has now passed great longtime boys
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in the NBA, was the host. Fred Carter and Kevin
Lockery were the other two analyst. And I was brought
in because I knew the international guys that actually played
internationally against Darko Milicitch, against Boris DL, Michael Pietruce, Andre Cairolinko,
and I covered college in high school basketball, and um,
you know, once they got once they got the Chris Bosh,
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they really you know, those weren't guys that they knew.
It's the fifteen year anniversary of it. This is your
this is your first right, You've been doing this for
a long time. Since you started the big lead. You
gotta be excited. Yeah, stoked, man, I mean I love
the NBA draft. I can our, you know, all the
college basketball games, even though you know, dug in our industry,
college hoops is kind of like it's fading a little bit,
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don't you feel like it's become mostly a one month sport.
But you and I are like geeks about it. I mean,
you obviously played, and I, like, I was in a
college basketball fantasy league dude for like a decade where
your draft keepers and they stick with you for three
or four years, you know, So like, I'm all into this,
and like, listen, I love DeAndre Ayten as much as
the next guy, but I watched him plenty, you know,
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just crossed these pack pack twelve jokers. I'm telling you, man,
I would go Luca Donte right out of the gate.
I take him first. Well you know his his his
coach for his national team is now the head coach
of the Phoenix Suns. I would take Marvin Bagley first,
I would take I would take Colin Sexton second. This
is a guard dominantly I think, yeah, let's now look Sacramento. Now,
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now look Sacramento doesn't need that Sacramento would take. If
I was Sacramento, I'd probably take Don Chick second, because
Sacramento has they drafted deer and it would it would
tell you that Dear and Fox is good enough. Now, look,
Dear and Fox might not be good enough. Um, but
I think you could take Don Check and get away
with it in Sacramento, whereas you couldn't take a call
in Section A point guard two years a row. But
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if again, if I'm just going based upon how I
think they'll translate to the NBA, it's become a guard
dominant lea. You gotta be able to play both ends.
You gotta have a burst of speed, you gotta have
leadership capabilities. I like Don Check, I just don't think
he's a star caliber athlete in the NBA. Well, there's
a lot of stuff there. Let let me start here.
So you said guard dominantly, I would agree point guards
are important. But my opinion, I think it's kind of
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become a wing lead here in the last couple of years.
It's transition to you've got to be able to play
both ways, right, You've got to play on the wing.
In the Houston Rockets push the Warriors, just Evan how
not with Clint Capella on the floor, but with Ariza talker,
Eric Gordon, Guys who can defend on the perimeter, on
the switches, because that's all it is. Now you see
the playoffs, it's just picking a role. Let's match up hunt,
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let's find the guy you can take advantage of. And
there weren't really any of those with the rockets. And
then of course Chris Paul gets hurt and you know,
kind of fell apart. But as thought, that's why I
wouldn't put Colin sext in that high. I know, donche
there's questions. Uh. Somebody told me this week that that
it feels like he's like a mid major athlete, like
he couldn't go in the A c C and play
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with those athletes. But but then Doug playing in the
second best basketball division in the world overseas. Now he
goes he's going to the international play against Sportzingis, He's
going head to head with a lot of guys who
are in the NBA. Now, you know, this guy played
alongside Gore on Dragic. Like, I just feel like Dons
can come in and be a factor immediately. If you
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said to me this would be my statement on Don
Jason McIntyre ar guests. Have you said to me this
on dunch Hey, He's he's the guy you can count
on most to be a solid pro. I would agree
with you, like I, you know what, He's gonna be
a good Why because he's a good pro now in
Europe and he's only going to get better. If you
told me that we're this is flora and ceiling. His
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floor is higher than some of the Michael Porters with
the back and some of the personality quirks, than the
Trey Young's of the world. Or then maybe even DeAndre
Atan who plays at a position which is being marginalized.
That I agree with you. I think his ceiling isn't
as high as some of the other players. So let
me this is you know, and again I don't know
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if this is spilling too many beans, but you know,
been been close to some people that are uh you know,
in the l A facility, seeing a lot of these
guys work out, and I'm hearing some stuff about Marvin Badley,
Like on the Duke campus, all the players live together
except for Marvin Badley. He wasn't all into the team
the way a lot of the other guys were. Now,
I don't know what that says about him, you know,
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in the bigger his parents, his parents moved to Durham
and should be should we pointed out? But yeah, go ahead,
that's fair. But at the same time, this is a
guy who when you ask the Duke players who's a
boos a better process? Would you rather have Carter or Bagley?
They're almost unanimously saying Wendell Carter. And again, I don't
think that's not a knock on Bagley. It's just you know,
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way Doug. For me, it feels like Bagley is a
super talented offensive player, but you know he's excited to
go to Sacramento. He's the only guy who will really
work out for them. They couldn't get Luca in the building.
Uh more, Bamba wants nothing to do. He's not sending
his medicals to Sacary. Like. Something seems off about Bagley
And personally I wouldn't take him one or two. I
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like other guys in Jason McIntyre joining us on the
Doug Gotlip Show, who's the big name who gets traded tonight? Oh? Um?
Can I can? I? Can I get away with saying
KOI or is there just no shot at that? It
stuck me his odd that the day after the reported
uh meeting between pop and Kauai, the Lakers are shifting
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around to make a move to get an extra second
round draft pick. And if you're looking at it big picture,
you know, listen, we've seen Darryl Moray work Wonders, moved
mountains with a bunch of second round draft picks. Again,
I don't know that the Lakers are doing that, but
this is their shot. You get Kauai in the building,
don if you're able to pull it off, and I
know there's stuff about Popovich doesn't want anything to do
with Lonzo. If you can get Kauai in the building,
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you know, Clippers can kis lebron goodbye? Okay, all the
pipe things about lebrono Boston, all this stuff. He's going
to be going to l A if they get Kauai tonight.
What about the Boston Celtics. There's a lot of rumors
that they're uh that they want to make a move.
Some think they want to trade up to getting the
top five of the NBA draft. Some people, of course,
think they want to draft Kauai. Leonard. What do you
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think happens with the Celtics that Mike Guess has been
scam Pat. I know Danny Ainge is a riverboat gambler
and he likes to do some wacky things that usually
work in his Tatum deal last year. Um, but I
just have to say they have not seen Hayward, Kyrie, Tatum,
Jalen Brown all together. And I just wonder if you
make a move to try to get Chauhi, you make
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a move up for Bomba and you have to part
with one of those four guys who I really like
a lot. If you could get rid of Marcus Smart
and Rose here, that's another story. But if you've got
to part with one of those core four, I just
wonder about the chemistry. And you're constantly tinkering. At some
point you gotta go with what got you there, right,
At some point Aine has to stand Pat and be like,
these are our guys, let's make it happen. Well, it's
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interesting because he stood Pat last year and then got
criticized for not making any not making any moves even
after they landed Gordon Hayward, and then all of a
sudden he gets Kyrie Irving and now you're like Okay, well,
now he's got to make another move. Yeah. I remember
people were upset in Boston that he passed on Paul George.
Jimmy Butler kind of worked out in his favor. Uh.
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And the NBA is so crazy, you know, we don't
know who could magically appear, Who's gonna hold their franchise hostage.
You'd be like, I want out. I've done here. I mean,
Anthony Davis won a round in the playoffs, You've got
several years left on his contract, A thousand percent certain
he's not going to go to manage it, and being like,
hey guys, shoot me out of town. I'm done here.
I I just you just don't know in the NBA
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right now, that's what's so crazy about it. Jason McIntyre
joining us on the Doug otlip Show part of our
draft coverage gets on a way seven o'clock Eastern time.
Cristpers Sard and Karen Butler as well will join him
for the entirety of the first round to talk all
things NBA and of course they will cover every pick
of the NBA Draft. If you were to tell me
there's a sleeper in the draft, who is it? Um sleeper?
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This is not going to remember a sleeper. Remember a
sleeper to you doesn't it's a sleeper to other people, right,
Like if I say, if I was to say Kevin Knox,
I think I don't think. I think that would be
a sleeper to people. Even though he's climbing up into
the into the top ten. I'll go with the guy
outside of the top twenty. I'm gonna go and everybody
knows him. But the guys who stick around college for
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a few years and you know, when they come to
draft time, it's like, oh, I don't don't want anything
to do with this guy. We've seen his body of work.
Can he get much better? The guy I like as
a sleeper, Grace and Allen. I know he had the
issues tripping people, But this is a guy who is
a tremendous shooter. He has destroyed in these workouts out
here in l A. He's just lighting it up. I
think he can contribute almost immediately, honestly as a six
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or seventh guy. And he's gonna be going late in
the first round to a good team. I mean again,
I don't know that the Warriors would take him if
he's gonna be there, But you're telling me Grace and
Allen couldn't contribute off the Warriors bench in the same
vein of like a Quinn Cook of Patrick Wolcall. I
love Grace and Allen late first round. I like Grayson
Allen as well. I think end of the first round
a lot of people like him. There's Zamari Spellman. Villanova
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is a little bit younger, not as refined, but also
could be a stretch five. More Wagner, the kid from Michigan,
of course, led them to the final four. I think again,
stretch five who can guard in the post. Maybe not
as good defensively as what some other five men could be,
but I do think that. You know, look, you either
had to be able to shoot or really defend the
rim as as a big guy, and if you can
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do both now you're super super valuable. Jason McIntyre is
our is our guest, Um, what do you what are
your honest thoughts on Lebron right Like if you were
to if I was to ask you right now, Lebron
James first game of the season playing where with whom
in l A with Paul George, that would be my
I've been I'm stuck with it. For eleven months. You know, listen, Doug,
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you and I are on that small uh Kevin Durant
is the best player at the NBA island. You know,
we don't have a lot of friends over on that island,
but you know I listen two finals MVPs. Durant, to
my in my opinion, has proven us right. I'm also
with the opinion Lebron's best chance at catching uh Jordans
not with six rings, but by resuscitating the greatest franchise
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in NBA history of the Lakers, okay, which Kobe left
in tatters when he demanded a ton of money. Lebron
can elevate the Lakers, take down the dynasty that is
the Warriors, and win a ring. I don't know how
that doesn't put him over Michael Jordan. I think that's
the best avenue for Lebron. He could bring a friend,
which is what he loves to do everywhere he goes,
whether it's Miami back to Cleveland. He could bring Paul George.
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They don't have the mortgage assets for him. And listen,
I want Lonzo out of town as much as the
next guy. But when you look at that the wings
there Kuzma Ingram, Josh Hart. Those are all two way players,
but good young players. I think that's a core that
can take down the Warriors. So I'm going with Lebron
in l A on opening night. I'm fascinating to see
what the Warriors do because I do think their bench
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isn't nearly what it has been. Um, they're gonna have
to rework some things. They're trying to kind of keep
the Hampton five together. And I will also say that
if Lebron goes to a new team, he's gonna have
to have the expectations that it's gonna be year two
that he really makes his move. Remember year one didn't
when in Miami, Year one didn't win it. Some of
that was injury in Cleveland. So it's it's got to
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be a two year plan. And I think sticking with
those younger players, Like what's gonna be interesting to see
is look, if they get Kauai and they got to
get rid of some of these young guys, I guess
you swallow Harden, you do it. But otherwise, if you
can keep those core young guys in bag um, I
just uh intact, I think you're you're one year away
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from really because in one year. Then Draymond's contract is up,
Clay Thompson's contract is up in one year. Lebron James
will have fully kind of understood how to play with
these guys. Manzo would be in year three, Ingram in
year four, Kuzma in year three. I think that's the
year in which they gotta show a year. Huh, are
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you going, Lakers? It is? It is? It's my, It's my.
It's the most likely. It's like a poorly kept secret.
This kind of feels like it's gonna work. I just
don't know if it's gonna be Paul George or Kauai
or both. That that part, I don't know, but I
do think that I do think that it will be.
It will be Lebron, Lebron in l A. I like
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it on the same side, rare for us, you know,
we usually disagree, but I like it. Um okay, so
uh stug gotlip show here on Fox Sports Radio. Um, Kyrie,
Kyrie Irving is kind of a different sort of dude, right,
you have a different sort of dude. And I've seen
you tweet about it, I've seen you write about it,
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I've heard heard what you've said about it that you
think he wants to be in New York next year,
not this year, the following year. Why yeah, I mean
you look at the guy. He he is a little different,
as you said. You know there's a guy from Jersey. Um.
He he really wanted his own show. You know, he
had the show in Cleveland. Then Lebron came back, and
you know, he was unhappy even though they wanted title.
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He's like, I'm out of here. You know, it's Lebron's team.
You know, I want to I want to beat him
out the door. So then he goes to Boston and
they really exceeded expectations without him, and the whole story,
the whole narrative is Wells Brad Stevens team and you know,
here comes Jason Tatum and you know, oh yeah, they
have Kyrie Irving. Also, Irving is going to be a
free agent. Is gonna opt out obviously and and have
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the chance next year to go anywhere he wants. I
think he's gonna want to pick his own team, and
he's gonna want to play with someone who's kite with
and we all know him and Jimmy Butler are good
friends dating back to the Team USA days. They're both
very Hollywood. You know, Jimmy Butler hangs out with Mark Wahlberg.
He's out here in l A running a club scene
in the summer. And Kyrie Irving, as we know, has
a movie coming out. He's now magically right ahead of
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his movie dating this chick who dated Justin Bieber. So
it all adds up to me if they want to
be either in l A or New York, those two
as a team, and the Knicks, because of their salary
cap situation, can't afford both the new the Brooklyn Nets.
Based on that trade yesterday for Dwight Howard now can
afford to Max guys. And I think Kyrie and Jimmy
Butler in Brooklyn is going to be a live option
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for those two next year. I've heard about the Brooklyn
thing for a long time. Okay, let me explain to Usance,
not not not Jimmy Butler and Kyrie Irving. Okay, Brooklyn
is not New York. Okay, you have to go across
a bridge. You have to go across a bridge to
get there. It's not that's going going to Brooklyn is
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going to the Clippers. It's the exact same thing. And
you're The assertion that you're making is, oh, it's somebody else. Like, look,
Kyrie Irving would have to be the first point guard
in NBA history to be worse under Brad Stevens than
he was elsewhere, whereas the opposite is true. You know,
I mean Terry Rogier was their fourth guard and he
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performed better than that level in the playoffs. Why because
he's playing for Brad and the system is really good
for guards and lets them play. Kyrie was having a
great year, he had need problems, and he'll come back
into play with a great team and he'll be the
best player on that team. The idea that he's already
got mentally packed to go to the Clippers of the
East and that's the Brooklyn nets to me, is a
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huge leap. There's lots of people who are friends with
the idea that, oh, he's out in l A all
the time. Guess who else is out in l A
in the summertime. Everybody, Kevin rand has bought a house
in l A, like every literally every NBA player spend
spend time living or working out in Los Angeles. So
you have no proof to be you have no proof,
Senator Mackinn. But I won't say this, he walked away
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from Lebron Jings. You don't think you walk away from
Brad Stephens and Gordon Hayward. I mean, come on, the guy,
Kyrie Irving, this is the dude who's pushing this. But why,
but why again? But why would he? Why did he
walk away from Lebron James's It wasn't just that he
wanted his own show. It was that Lebron wasn't willing
to commit to staying so they couldn't get up. Paul
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George is that Lebron ran the entire organization, so you
never felt like you had had to say in something.
Kyrie also getting much a part of the Celtics. They're
building a roster that can win a championship for the
next five years if you keep everybody together. That's the
way to work. And so the idea that you're gonna
do that give it away to go to the Clippers
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of the East and red completely rebuild it with the
Brooklyn Nets, I think is a huge lea you're taking
before we ever see this. But at the same time,
let's remind everybody when they were together in the playoffs.
Remember there was a practice the legendary story that Tyron
Lou tried to tell Kyrie something and Kyrie basically was
not listening to him and said, go tell Lebron it's
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his team and just walked off the court. I'm telling you, man,
this guy really likes the idea of ownership. He doesn't
like answering to anybody, and I can just see things
going sideways next year if he doesn't feel he's in control.
I like Kyrie having a lot. I got a Kyrie
Irving jersey, you know, I don't. I don't mind a
been in that. I'm a fan of his work. I'll
probably see Uncle Drew. It feels to me like he
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wants to be the guy in control, and I don't
think that's the case in Boston that Jason McIntyre check
him out tonight in the NBA Draft. Couch for Fox
Sports Radio, j Mack, thanks so much for joining us, Dude,
all right, Doug, thanks a little man. Fox Sports Radio
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heard it is the Cleveland Cavaliers looking to package Kevin
Love or package anything else. They have her package expiring
contracts with their number eight pick to move up or
to get a player. You notice that, if you noticed,
there has been no chatter out of Cleveland about that
sort of stuff. Do you know why that is? That's
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because Cleveland he's doing the right thing, even if it's
the hard thing. You think your girl is gonna leave you,
You're get in the sense that she's gonna call it off.
What do you do right, You've been together for four years.
You just think she's not feeling it anymore. Just do
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you go do the hail Mary and ask her to
marry you? Do you go get a ring? Even though
you're like, yeah, we've been fighting a lot more, let's
plan a trip. One of the one of the biggest
mistakes that married couples make, or just couples make, is
in an effort to try and fix things. Do you
know what they do? Romist do what they do an
effort to try and fix things in a long, long
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time relationship. I don't let's have another kid. I'm not
I'm not laughing at all. People will do that. The music.
I'm just telling you, like, if when they try to
have another kid, that'll fix things right. But all a
kid does is not sleep. All a kid does is
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make the things that you didn't. Well, he's a great dad,
he can be. She's a great mom, she can be.
They're not a great couple. Still, people will do this,
or they'll buy a dog. Right if they already have
kids and you decide to not even maybe you had
the little snip snip, they'll buy a dog. You know what,
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it'll bring the kids close to the family closer. It
doesn't now of a sudden, the dog gets caught in
the middle. You try and have another kid, the kid
gets or if it's a relationship that hasn't in marriage,
guy be like, you know what, I'm just gonna ask
her to marry her. Like like, that's gonna and that
will backfire. Remember last time around, Cleveland had Mike Brown
as their coach. They won sixty one games in the
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regular season. They made a bunch of moves to try
and keep in there, including bringing in Shaquille O'Neil. Do
you remember that they lose in the Eastern Conference finals
and they fired Mike Brown. That'll do it. That'll show
Lebron we're serious about making changes around here. And what
did Lebron do here gone. Having a kid doesn't fix
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her relationship, Buying a dog doesn't fix the family, and
putting a wedding ring on her family on her finger
is not going to make her love you more or
more truly. If Lebron James is leaving, he's leaving. If
he's staying, he's staying. But for the future of the franchise,
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the best thing you can do is, let's go draft
the best player available at eight. Let's see what have
with Lebron. If he leaves and we can do a
sign and trade, great, get something back that we want
in return. Otherwise we're gonna have a massive spat uh,
a massive batch of cap space. And we'll figure that
out when the time comes. If she's gonna leave, putting
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a ring on her finger is only going to delay that.
If you're going to get a divorce, having a kid
is only going to delay that and by the way,
make it more expensive. So that's my thing on Cleveland,
Like I think, sometimes the best thing to do is nothing.
This happens with houses. Happens with houses. Like you're trying
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to sell your house, and look, if you want to
paint the inside, you you can paint the inside. That
might lighten it up. But the idea of doing construction
before you're gonna sell the house, all you're doing is
putting more cost on it and lessening your profit or
if you're gonna lose money in the house, making your
loss even more. If somebody's gonna buy your house and
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read do your house, they're gonna want to redo it
in their own vision. Unless you're gonna redo the entire thing.
That's one thing. But you're gonna do just like small jobs,
like you know, we just need to redo this bathroom,
don't do it. Don't redo the bathroom. Somebody's gonna buy
your house, let them redo the bathroom. If you're gonna
if if Lebron James is gonna walk out the door,
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we'll figure it out that it doesn't make it better,
It actually makes it worse. And so Kobe Altman, for
all his youth, all is inexperience and the fact that
he did a decent job, it really got a housed
in both of these trades that they've made. Regarding kar
Kyrie Irving, I think this is the smart thing. The
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smart play. Do nothing, draft a really good player and
figure out how much cash space you have before you
get your next player. Be sure to catch live editions
of the Doug gott Leaps Show weekdays at three p m.
Eastern noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I
Heart Radio app Earlier today, Baker Mayfield was on the Herd.
I thought there was some fascinating, fascinating stuff. We'll get
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to it with Lincoln Riley, head coach of the University
of Oklahoma. Momentarily, Um, I thought that I thought that
Baker gave it back to Colin pretty good. Um, But
I thought it was an you know, look, Baker was
really prepared for the interview, and he purpored himself well,
and he showed that he got a little bit of
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that fighting spirit that he's not willing to let himself
be cast in a light that he doesn't feel to
be accurate. So I like my my issue with with
Baker has only been I do think there's a point
to which he has all the intangibles in the world. Um,
but there's a certain tant needed need for tangibles, not
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just intangibles. So and look, let's not act like Baker is.
Though I don't like false humility, I do like some humility.
I didn't love the idea that that Sandy a go
one to meet or la excuse me, the Chargers want
to meet with him, and he blew off their playbook,
which tells anybody that the Chargers couldn't draft him. I
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can't draft a guy who tells everybody not only did
I not look at the playbook, but I'm gonna tell
Sports Illustrated I didn't look at the playbook. Can I
ask you, guys a question that I don't know the
answer to? Buyer this is for you. I'll get I'll
get to that in a second. About the Argentina thing,
I just don't know enough about it. Um. Lincoln Rile
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is the head coach of Oklahoma. He was just awarded
a contract extension, a little bump in pay after one year,
and all they did was win a Big Twelve title,
go to the national semi finals, and win a High
Spoo Trophy for his quarterback. He's oh us head coach?
He joins, us, Uh, Lincoln, how are you? I'm great dog?
How you doing good man? What's it? What's it mean
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to you? That? Jokes Tigleone who originally believed in you,
said you know what you're doing? Such a good job.
Let's give you a bump after you one. That means
a lot, you know. I think in any any business,
anything that we do in life, to have people that
that support you that uh, you know, it makes you
feel wanted and appreciated for for what you've done, give
you some security, which is a little you know, a
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little bit tougher to get in this business maybe than
some others. Um, yeah, it means a great deal. I know.
They you know, they've always been very proactive with us,
very fair. We've been lucky to have some good success
and uh and Oklahoma has been been great to us.
So yeah, I think it just sends a message that
did a lot of great things that have been happening
and uh and hopefully the best is yet to come.
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All right, tell me something that you learned from being
a head coach that you didn't know, Like, you know,
you think you know because you're right there next to
a couple of really good guys in your last two jobs.
But now you're like, well, I hadn't, I had no idea,
you know, probably just how much of it really is
is managing people, um, you know, and how how important
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that is. Uh, there's just so much that goes into
that out on a day to day basis, and uh,
you know, you when you're lucky like we are to
have as many great people in this program as we do.
I think it's just about you know, setting the direction
and then and then doing your best to manage those
people and let them do what they do best and
then and then you can turn out a really great
product on the field, you know, which we've been able
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to do. But yeah, there's uh, you know, there's so
much that goes into it at this level, you know,
and then when yours involved on the on the football
side of it, Uh, you know as I am that
you gotta have a lot of great people around us.
So we've been very blessed in that regard. How often
you get home to Texas not much, not as much
as I should honestly, probably with it being that close,
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I'm probably they're recruiting more than I'm actually there, you know,
going home, but probably twice a year right now. Well,
I mentioned it because you picked up this Bob Stoove's
Ohio accent during your time, and I just wonder when
they go home, they're like, dude, wait, wait, what happened? Actually,
it's maybe all you you grow up in Texas and
then you you get out to the east coast North
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Carolina and then back here, and yeah, it's actually maybe
doesn't know doesn't know where it's at right now. No,
I mean, like, listen, well we all like you. You
get a bit, you get two stoops boys that you're
working with, you know, the last couple of years, and
you're like, look, I guess this is how everybody talks.
And you pick up patterns of speech from the people
around you, right, that's how like accents are formed. And
so I just I just wonder if when you go
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back home, they're like, wait, what they think you used
to y'all? You used to y'all everything, and now you
don't y'all anything. I know, what's what's wrong with me?
I need to go spend some more time back home.
I think that's that's accurate. How do you think Baker
did with cal here today? You know, I didn't see it.
A couple of the guys told me that he did
pretty well. So you Baker's not the Baker's pretty sharp.
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And also he's not gonna and he's definitely not gonna
back down. That's not his Uh, that's not his and moo.
So I'm sure. I'm sure he kept I'm sure he
kept calling on his toes. Here, here's here's here's Baker
earlier today with Colin learning on learning from his mistakes.
My mistakes are are not things that need to be
a franchise quarterback. But within football there's a lot of
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trash talk, a lot of stuff that has not been
made aware to everybody. Yeah, there was mistakes, but I've
definitely learned from it. I wouldn't a franchise quarterback then.
I'm hoping it would be one in the future and
I can learn from my mistakes and do that. Do
do you think do you think it's it's legitimate that
he has evolved and learned from any of the missteps.
Was the cross grab of the flint of the flag
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planting that some deemed to be mistakes, Yeah, no, I
think he definitely has. I wouldn't say that the flag
planning was one, but you know, he's uh, yeah, there's
some of the mistakes that he's made. I mean, I
think the first thing was he owned up to them
in the beginning, which a lot of guys, you know,
that's that's difficult for them to do, especially on such
a public stage. Uh, you know that that has happened
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on And yeah, I definitely would just day to day
dealing with him, knowing him like I do, I think
he's absolutely made progress. Is he perfect? No? Uh? Is Uh?
Does he still have some growing to do? Of course
he does, But I think he's shown that he's he's
on the right track. Um. You know that he's learning
from his mistakes, not making the same ones over and
over again. So uh, And for him, it's a little
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bit of a balance of some of the things that
maybe have caused some of those mistakes are also what
what makes him great. And so I think he's smart
enough to realize that. He Yes, you want to grow
and mature and continue get better, but you don't want
to take away the thing that really separates you as well.
And so I think he's learning the balance those Yeah,
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you gotta balance it, you know, I mean you see,
I mean all the great ones you see have this
that intense, burning desire. Uh. And I think guys, as
they've gotten older, I've learned to manage it better and
when to use it, when not to not let it
get you in trouble. But also let it. Let it
allow you to play at the highest level possible. Yeah,
that's that's but that's the hard part, right, Like how
do I how do I keep that edge and yet
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don't let it? And I'm with you on the flag
the flag planting, like I'm even I'm even with you,
Like on the crotch scrab you know, when they didn't
want to shake his hands and they're trying to take
shots at him, you know, talking a little I'm okay
with a little trash talk. I don't I've never had
a problem with any of that stuff with Baker. My
my big question is, Look, you've coached this offense, and
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you've and this offense and the style of not just
the style of offense, but the way in which you
guys have kind of taken college football, especially in Texas
and an Oklahoma by storm has produced from case Keenum
to Menzel to to the ward kid that was at Houston.
Like we've seen huge numbers from guys that are really
good quarterbacks and guys are just okay quarterbacks. I guess
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my question becomes, you take him out of that offense,
you put him in the NFL. Um, how hard is
it going to be too evolved to being an NFL
quarterback making NFL throws with bigger players where you aren't
a step ahead of the defense. Yeah. I think there's Uh,
I think a couple of things. One, the NFL offensively
is more like college right now than it's ever been,
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and I think in five years it's gonna be even
more that direction. I mean, that's definitely the trend. You
you look at the two teams that I think resemble
us the most offensively, and that's the New England Patriots
in the in the Philadelphia Eagles, and it's not surprising
to me that those are two teams, you know, standing
at the end of the year in the Super Bowl.
So I think it's I think the offenses are trending
more towards what's going on here, I think, which will
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provide some familiarity. Um. And I think I think the
thing I would say for Baker is, you know, he
did it for three straight years. Uh. He did it
against elite competition, he did it in big games, and
he did it with a kind of a rotating cast,
a rotating supporting cast. We had a lot of guys,
you know, Starving Shepherd, d D. Westbrook, you know Joe Mixon, smile,
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JP Ryan that that we're here some of the years
and then gone, and he had to do it with
different guys each year and still did it at a
at a high level and was the most efficient quarterback
that's ever played in college. So uh yeah, I think
the guys, you know, I think he's proven he can
do it, and I think the direction of the NFL
offenses will well absolutely benefit him. Right now, Lincoln Riley,
Oklahoma's head football coach, joining us in the Doug Gotlip Show.
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All right, let's talk about your current number one quarterback
QB one is Kyler Murray. For people who didn't follow
his high school of career, it's about as good a
high school career as you're ever gonna have. I think
he played for his dad right at Alan High School
forty two and oh as the starting quarterback. Uh then
he goes to A and M and he got to
start early on, but then gets beaten out, transfers to
O U, and he's sitting kind of waiting for Baker
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Mayfield to to either leave early last year or to
graduate and play. So now he's gonna be a starting quarterback.
Then he goes and has a great breakthrough baseball season,
and and he's taken ninth overall in the Major League
Baseball Draft. Did you did you know going into the
Major League Baseball Draft he was gonna be selected that high. Uh, well,
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first off, he's not the starter here. Yeah, we got
a heck of a competition going on right now with
Austin Kendall. So we'll we'll see how that plays out.
But colors, you know your colors are He's a It's
an interesting story. Uh. We knew coming into this, uh
when when we first had conversations about him coming to
Oklahoma that the baseball was going to be in factor.
And so based on our conversations before we ever stiff
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Foot on this campus, I was very comfortable with the
fact that he was gonna play college football regardless of
what happened with baseball, and he and his family have
stayed true to that. Yeah, it's it's it's pretty amazing though. Really,
you know, think a guy, I think he practiced with
our baseball team like ten times this year, you know,
and then goes out and has a kind of year
and shows account of ability that make him a top
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a top ten pick in the in the Major League
Baseball draft. So it's it's a great story. It's it's
it's very impressive what he's been able to do on
both um, I think football wise. Uh, you know, he's
really benefited from being out the spotlight here, you know
for the last couple of years, you know, getting a
chance to watch Baker the way he prepared. I think
for Kyler, a chance to to grow up, to mature,
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to uh to really get himself ready to have a
chance to be a quarterback, a really good starting quarterback
at this level. UM. So I just think the whole
period of time has been good for him. So he's
in a good place right now. And and uh here
working out with our guys, and like I said, we've
got two really good ones between him and Austin Kendall
that are going to go at it pretty good and
and we'll see, uh we we'll see who's standing in
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the end. Okay. So listen, like you recruited Austin out
of Charlotte and um, and so he's going to be
with the program um as well. But you know you
feel like he's kind of more all in, Like does
that that has to play a factor in who you
decide to play, doesn't it? Well, I just don't look
at that way I look at it. You know, Austin
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is absolutely all in, but I mean Kyler is too.
I mean because I think a lot of guys, you know,
if they weren't all in, he would be full time
baseball right now. I mean, he's got, you know, obviously
a great opportunity there, and a lot of people would think, well,
why wouldn't you just go do that. You've got, you know,
a good chunk of money in the bank, a team
that's invested in you. Why wouldn't you just go ahead
and go get started and risk injury or whatever have you.
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And uh, So I think that shows his commitment that
he's been willing to put that on hold, that he's
been willing to go through the grind of trying to
play two sports. Wouldn't play him one as hard as
hell in its own uh and he's he's played two.
So I think they're both equally committed. And so now
at the end of the day, it's gonna be about
us just being as good as we can this year,
and whoever helps us do that, that's that's who we'll play,
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all right. I just want to make sure that wasn't
a that wasn't There wasn't something against the cheerleaders when
Austin had an errand passed the spring game and took
out that cheerleader. There's no previous relationship we need to
talk about, right. If it is, it's a very good accuracy,
but uh yeah, not yet. It was cout a while deal.
We had a windy day and ball just kind of
took off, and uh yeah, she good things. She was
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pretty tough. She hung in there, well she did. She
popped back up and she was cheering on the sideline.
Lincoln Riley, the head coach of Oklahoma joining us in
Doug otach. The last thing, and I think this is
incredibly important for football fans. Something you said earlier and
I was listening, you mentioned how NFL offenses are starting
to mirror are some of these college offenses? Why has
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it taken so long for this to happen? Like we saw, Look,
we saw what they did in Houston when um they
put Deshaun Watson back there. They started running some zone read,
letting him move around. Uh they changed some of that
kind of the motion game stuff that that he used
in college. We saw with r G three but then
then the Redskins tried to morph him into kind of
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a classic pro style thrower. Why now is it something
that's accepted at the higher level. I think two reasons. Um.
I think a lot of times trends take time to
catch on. You know, I can remember fifteen years ago
and you know, we were at Texas Tech and we
had a pretty good run offensively. It's you know, I
was shocked all those years that people weren't trying to
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hire more of our assistants and and that that the
thing wasn't taken off. And then finally somebody did it
and there was there was more success, and then it
just it blew up from there. And I think it's
been the same thing at the NFL level. I think
there's been a resistance to almost kind of not not egotistical,
it's not the right word, but hey, this is how
we've done in the NFL forever, so this is just
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how we're gonna do it. And then I think, as
some people have branched out and tried and those teams
have been very successful, if you've just seen more and
more start to go to it. And then I think
the other thing is with the with the new hour
rules with the NFL players, the fact that coaches can't
have them up there all the time. There's much more
limited contact between coaches and players, um, which is a
(44:28):
lot closer to the model we have in college. You
only have so many hours and so many different times
of the year that you can work with them. And
so I think you've got to have a system that
allows you to be able to get that implemented so
guys can play well early. And uh so, yeah, those
are two factors in my mind. Um. Uh, Lincoln, I
don't want to ask you about the Nike uniforms because
I don't know if you know this. I used to
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do local radio in Oklahoma City, and I remember when
Nebraska they just put a stripe in their pants and
fans up there. When crazy. But you guys have switched
over to these Nike uniforms into the four kind of
different looks, I mean, and and things you didn't think
you'd have to deal with. Um, with the new uniforms,
have you started to get some calls from some of
the blue hair, some the old folks that that donated
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a monty of years, like don't you ever you tell
those you tell those people in Niki, you ain't gonna
change my uniforms. Have you gotten the calls yet? You
don't know, because I think they know we're we're smart
enough to understand. We've got some of the most iconic uniforms.
So we're we're very conservative as far as you know.
Change it will update, of course, but we're gonna we're
gonna always stay with our traditional uniforms. They're they're too good.
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They need to change. But the jump Man, you know,
the whole Jordan brand has been a special deal for us.
It's it's it's very exclusive, um and it's uh something
that's you know, just very unique, which we think our
program is here too. So it's been a great thing
for our players, our recruits. I think our friends have
had fun with it. And uh, it'll be a fun
ride with with the Jordan brand. Yeah, it should be
(45:52):
really really cool. All right, Hey, thanks so much for
joining us. Congrats on the new deal. We look forward
to catching up with you once you select the starting quarterback.
Enjoy your summer, uh In Norman, all right, thanks, I
appreciate you.
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a little bit about Baker Mayfield's appearance in the Herd,
and uh I will mention that the Cleveland Cavaliers are
doing the right thing by not openly opining and doing
(01:28):
everything it can they can to uh to to beg
and plead to keep Lebron James. All of that upcoming.
But um, did you guys know this that literally has
been changed in the Webster's Dictionary? Are you aware of this?
This is Look, millennials have brought some great things to
(01:49):
the table, Ryan Music, your generation, you guys have done
some good things. Avocado toast. This is a good thing.
It really has, um and I do think that being
aware of many political topics is important, but the changing
the definition of literally ranks above going from aware to
(02:11):
being woke. It really does that. That's what it does.
That millennials has spoken and because they use the word
literally wrong so many times, that they've done what anyone
who makes the rules will do, and that they've changed
the rules. Literally in Webster's Dictionary not only means what
literally means, but it also means what figuratively means. And
(02:35):
the changing of the dection definition of literally is like
the changing definition of talent. Look in my business. In
my business, when you're on air, when you speak into
the microphone, we are called talent. That's what the NBA
Draft is this year. Don't get me wrong. There's some
really good players. Like if I if I squint a
(02:55):
little bit and I see Marvin Bagley, I'm like, he
could be Chris Posh. I get it. I like it.
He could be Chris Bosh. When I look at some
of the players in the league and I'm like, hm hmm.
Look I watched Chandler hutcheson play from Boise State. I'm like, oh,
that's a three indie guy, a long arm, can really shoot,
not much of a ball handler, only goes right. He
(03:16):
could be Trevor Reasa. But there is no Ben Simmons,
I don't believe in this draft. There's definitely no Lebron,
James Carmelo, Anthony Duane Wade in this draft. And so
talent is a literal word, but by literally I mean
figurative word. Right, we have to adjust to what this
(03:37):
talent is Bagley's tremendous. I actually have him as the
number one prospect in this class, and I have Colin
sections number two, DeAndre and not even the top two.
But he'll go number one tonight. We'll get to why
in a second. But the point is that when you
use the word when you said this draft, how talented
is this draft? Like, well, I actually think it's pretty
(03:59):
talent wunted, maybe more so than last year. And some
of you will sit there and go, wait a second,
that's blasphemy. I watched last year's NBA draft class play
so great in the NBA playoffs, Right, that's what you're
That's what you're told, that's what you're led to believe,
that last year's NBA draft. But then you look in
Marquel Foltz, Markuel folts One obviously struggled this year with
(04:23):
his confidence, and we're told with the shoulder. Alonzo Ball
only played fifty three games. I think he'll be a
good player, but for for about three quarters this season,
he was the worst shooter in the NBA. Jayson Tatum
had a tremendous playoff run average fourteen a game in
the regular season. That's a win. Josh Jackson does anybody
remember what he did for the Phoenix Suns. Dearon Fox
was okay with Sacramento, Jonathan Isaacs, the Project Lorie Marketing
(04:46):
played well for for the Bulls that were terrible and
they were tanking. You know, Dennis Smith got some great dunks,
but can't shoot like you go down and like Malik
monk Za College Ben's player too young for Gonzaga. The
problem is that we are now plucking guys younger and younger.
If you don't go, it ain't cool, right, and everybody
(05:10):
coming out soon soon becomes Miles Davis stug Otlam Show
here on Fox Sport Trade. The point is that even
if you look at last year, you look at last year,
you're gonna sit back and you're gonna say, may Donovan
Mitchell and you're right, he's tremendous. Hey, Jason Tatum, You're right,
he's tremendous. Um even O g Edi boy Is is
(05:33):
going to be a fantastic player. Kyle Kuzma at seven
the first round, there's a a stud player, but there's
twenty two other dudes, many of whom did nothing this
year in the NBA. So I actually think, I actually
believe that This is a more talented draft than last
(05:54):
year's draft, but I also believe that it's not one
of the great drafts of our lifetime, and it's not
going to produce once in a you know, generation changing
basketball players. It's just we don't have that type of
weaponry coming out of the college game. And one reason
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is it's it's really hard to tell because we haven't
seen him long enough. It's weird because basketball is in
great shape in terms of the overall talent in the sport,
but bad shape in terms of our knowledge of these players.
The fact the fact that I have to explain to
you who have these players are only proves my point
that they're coming out to Really college should be used
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only two to build your your game, but build your brand.
But we're hurting both games by doing so. Be sure
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throughout the entire first round the draft, beginning at seven
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They'll have predictions and analysis of all thirty picks in
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live show and let's welcome in Jason McIntyre. Jason, here's
the story. Okay, this is the honest and goodness story.
So to just fifteen years ago, two thousand three. Um,
I was a late addition to the ESPN radio draft broadcast.
Jim Durham now who has now passed great longtime boys
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in the NBA, was the host. Fred Carter and Kevin
Lockery were the other two analyst. And I was brought
in because I knew the international guys that actually played
internationally against Darko Milicitch, against Boris DL, Michael Pietruce, Andre Cairolinko,
and I covered college in high school basketball, and um,
you know, once they got once they got the Chris Bosh,
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they really you know, those weren't guys that they knew.
It's the fifteen year anniversary of it. This is your
this is your first right, You've been doing this for
a long time. Since you started the big lead. You
gotta be excited. Yeah, stoked, man, I mean I love
the NBA draft. I can our, you know, all the
college basketball games, even though you know, dug in our industry,
college hoops is kind of like it's fading a little bit,
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don't you feel like it's become mostly a one month sport.
But you and I are like geeks about it. I mean,
you obviously played, and I, like, I was in a
college basketball fantasy league dude for like a decade where
your draft keepers and they stick with you for three
or four years, you know, So like, I'm all into this,
and like, listen, I love DeAndre Ayten as much as
the next guy, but I watched him plenty, you know,
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just crossed these pack pack twelve jokers. I'm telling you, man,
I would go Luca Donte right out of the gate.
I take him first. Well you know his his his
coach for his national team is now the head coach
of the Phoenix Suns. I would take Marvin Bagley first,
I would take I would take Colin Sexton second. This
is a guard dominantly I think, yeah, let's now look Sacramento. Now,
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now look Sacramento doesn't need that Sacramento would take. If
I was Sacramento, I'd probably take Don Chick second, because
Sacramento has they drafted deer and it would it would
tell you that Dear and Fox is good enough. Now, look,
Dear and Fox might not be good enough. Um, but
I think you could take Don Check and get away
with it in Sacramento, whereas you couldn't take a call
in Section A point guard two years a row. But
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if again, if I'm just going based upon how I
think they'll translate to the NBA, it's become a guard
dominant lea. You gotta be able to play both ends.
You gotta have a burst of speed, you gotta have
leadership capabilities. I like Don Check, I just don't think
he's a star caliber athlete in the NBA. Well, there's
a lot of stuff there. Let let me start here.
So you said guard dominantly, I would agree point guards
are important. But my opinion, I think it's kind of
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become a wing lead here in the last couple of years.
It's transition to you've got to be able to play
both ways, right, You've got to play on the wing.
In the Houston Rockets push the Warriors, just Evan how
not with Clint Capella on the floor, but with Ariza talker,
Eric Gordon, Guys who can defend on the perimeter, on
the switches, because that's all it is. Now you see
the playoffs, it's just picking a role. Let's match up hunt,
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let's find the guy you can take advantage of. And
there weren't really any of those with the rockets. And
then of course Chris Paul gets hurt and you know,
kind of fell apart. But as thought, that's why I
wouldn't put Colin sext in that high. I know, donche
there's questions. Uh. Somebody told me this week that that
it feels like he's like a mid major athlete, like
he couldn't go in the A c C and play
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with those athletes. But but then Doug playing in the
second best basketball division in the world overseas. Now he
goes he's going to the international play against Sportzingis, He's
going head to head with a lot of guys who
are in the NBA. Now, you know, this guy played
alongside Gore on Dragic. Like, I just feel like Dons
can come in and be a factor immediately. If you
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said to me this would be my statement on Don
Jason McIntyre ar guests. Have you said to me this
on dunch Hey, He's he's the guy you can count
on most to be a solid pro. I would agree
with you, like I, you know what, He's gonna be
a good Why because he's a good pro now in
Europe and he's only going to get better. If you
told me that we're this is flora and ceiling. His
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floor is higher than some of the Michael Porters with
the back and some of the personality quirks, than the
Trey Young's of the world. Or then maybe even DeAndre
Atan who plays at a position which is being marginalized.
That I agree with you. I think his ceiling isn't
as high as some of the other players. So let
me this is you know, and again I don't know
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if this is spilling too many beans, but you know,
been been close to some people that are uh you know,
in the l A facility, seeing a lot of these
guys work out, and I'm hearing some stuff about Marvin Badley,
Like on the Duke campus, all the players live together
except for Marvin Badley. He wasn't all into the team
the way a lot of the other guys were. Now,
I don't know what that says about him, you know,
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in the bigger his parents, his parents moved to Durham
and should be should we pointed out? But yeah, go ahead,
that's fair. But at the same time, this is a
guy who when you ask the Duke players who's a
boos a better process? Would you rather have Carter or Bagley?
They're almost unanimously saying Wendell Carter. And again, I don't
think that's not a knock on Bagley. It's just you know,
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way Doug. For me, it feels like Bagley is a
super talented offensive player, but you know he's excited to
go to Sacramento. He's the only guy who will really
work out for them. They couldn't get Luca in the building.
Uh more, Bamba wants nothing to do. He's not sending
his medicals to Sacary. Like. Something seems off about Bagley
And personally I wouldn't take him one or two. I
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like other guys in Jason McIntyre joining us on the
Doug Gotlip Show, who's the big name who gets traded tonight? Oh? Um?
Can I can? I? Can I get away with saying
KOI or is there just no shot at that? It
stuck me his odd that the day after the reported
uh meeting between pop and Kauai, the Lakers are shifting
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around to make a move to get an extra second
round draft pick. And if you're looking at it big picture,
you know, listen, we've seen Darryl Moray work Wonders, moved
mountains with a bunch of second round draft picks. Again,
I don't know that the Lakers are doing that, but
this is their shot. You get Kauai in the building,
don if you're able to pull it off, and I
know there's stuff about Popovich doesn't want anything to do
with Lonzo. If you can get Kauai in the building,
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you know, Clippers can kis lebron goodbye? Okay, all the
pipe things about lebrono Boston, all this stuff. He's going
to be going to l A if they get Kauai tonight.
What about the Boston Celtics. There's a lot of rumors
that they're uh that they want to make a move.
Some think they want to trade up to getting the
top five of the NBA draft. Some people, of course,
think they want to draft Kauai. Leonard. What do you
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think happens with the Celtics that Mike Guess has been
scam Pat. I know Danny Ainge is a riverboat gambler
and he likes to do some wacky things that usually
work in his Tatum deal last year. Um, but I
just have to say they have not seen Hayward, Kyrie, Tatum,
Jalen Brown all together. And I just wonder if you
make a move to try to get Chauhi, you make
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a move up for Bomba and you have to part
with one of those four guys who I really like
a lot. If you could get rid of Marcus Smart
and Rose here, that's another story. But if you've got
to part with one of those core four, I just
wonder about the chemistry. And you're constantly tinkering. At some
point you gotta go with what got you there, right,
At some point Aine has to stand Pat and be like,
these are our guys, let's make it happen. Well, it's
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interesting because he stood Pat last year and then got
criticized for not making any not making any moves even
after they landed Gordon Hayward, and then all of a
sudden he gets Kyrie Irving and now you're like Okay, well,
now he's got to make another move. Yeah. I remember
people were upset in Boston that he passed on Paul George.
Jimmy Butler kind of worked out in his favor. Uh.
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And the NBA is so crazy, you know, we don't
know who could magically appear, Who's gonna hold their franchise hostage.
You'd be like, I want out. I've done here. I mean,
Anthony Davis won a round in the playoffs, You've got
several years left on his contract, A thousand percent certain
he's not going to go to manage it, and being like,
hey guys, shoot me out of town. I'm done here.
I I just you just don't know in the NBA
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right now, that's what's so crazy about it. Jason McIntyre
joining us on the Doug otlip Show part of our
draft coverage gets on a way seven o'clock Eastern time.
Cristpers Sard and Karen Butler as well will join him
for the entirety of the first round to talk all
things NBA and of course they will cover every pick
of the NBA Draft. If you were to tell me
there's a sleeper in the draft, who is it? Um sleeper?
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This is not going to remember a sleeper. Remember a
sleeper to you doesn't it's a sleeper to other people, right,
Like if I say, if I was to say Kevin Knox,
I think I don't think. I think that would be
a sleeper to people. Even though he's climbing up into
the into the top ten. I'll go with the guy
outside of the top twenty. I'm gonna go and everybody
knows him. But the guys who stick around college for
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a few years and you know, when they come to
draft time, it's like, oh, I don't don't want anything
to do with this guy. We've seen his body of work.
Can he get much better? The guy I like as
a sleeper, Grace and Allen. I know he had the
issues tripping people, But this is a guy who is
a tremendous shooter. He has destroyed in these workouts out
here in l A. He's just lighting it up. I
think he can contribute almost immediately, honestly as a six
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or seventh guy. And he's gonna be going late in
the first round to a good team. I mean again,
I don't know that the Warriors would take him if
he's gonna be there, But you're telling me Grace and
Allen couldn't contribute off the Warriors bench in the same
vein of like a Quinn Cook of Patrick Wolcall. I
love Grace and Allen late first round. I like Grayson
Allen as well. I think end of the first round
a lot of people like him. There's Zamari Spellman. Villanova
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is a little bit younger, not as refined, but also
could be a stretch five. More Wagner, the kid from Michigan,
of course, led them to the final four. I think again,
stretch five who can guard in the post. Maybe not
as good defensively as what some other five men could be,
but I do think that. You know, look, you either
had to be able to shoot or really defend the
rim as as a big guy, and if you can
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do both now you're super super valuable. Jason McIntyre is
our is our guest, Um, what do you what are
your honest thoughts on Lebron right Like if you were
to if I was to ask you right now, Lebron
James first game of the season playing where with whom
in l A with Paul George, that would be my
I've been I'm stuck with it. For eleven months. You know, listen, Doug,
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you and I are on that small uh Kevin Durant
is the best player at the NBA island. You know,
we don't have a lot of friends over on that island,
but you know I listen two finals MVPs. Durant, to
my in my opinion, has proven us right. I'm also
with the opinion Lebron's best chance at catching uh Jordans
not with six rings, but by resuscitating the greatest franchise
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in NBA history of the Lakers, okay, which Kobe left
in tatters when he demanded a ton of money. Lebron
can elevate the Lakers, take down the dynasty that is
the Warriors, and win a ring. I don't know how
that doesn't put him over Michael Jordan. I think that's
the best avenue for Lebron. He could bring a friend,
which is what he loves to do everywhere he goes,
whether it's Miami back to Cleveland. He could bring Paul George.
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They don't have the mortgage assets for him. And listen,
I want Lonzo out of town as much as the
next guy. But when you look at that the wings
there Kuzma Ingram, Josh Hart. Those are all two way players,
but good young players. I think that's a core that
can take down the Warriors. So I'm going with Lebron
in l A on opening night. I'm fascinating to see
what the Warriors do because I do think their bench
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isn't nearly what it has been. Um, they're gonna have
to rework some things. They're trying to kind of keep
the Hampton five together. And I will also say that
if Lebron goes to a new team, he's gonna have
to have the expectations that it's gonna be year two
that he really makes his move. Remember year one didn't
when in Miami, Year one didn't win it. Some of
that was injury in Cleveland. So it's it's got to
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be a two year plan. And I think sticking with
those younger players, Like what's gonna be interesting to see
is look, if they get Kauai and they got to
get rid of some of these young guys, I guess
you swallow Harden, you do it. But otherwise, if you
can keep those core young guys in bag um, I
just uh intact, I think you're you're one year away
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from really because in one year. Then Draymond's contract is up,
Clay Thompson's contract is up in one year. Lebron James
will have fully kind of understood how to play with
these guys. Manzo would be in year three, Ingram in
year four, Kuzma in year three. I think that's the
year in which they gotta show a year. Huh, are
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you going, Lakers? It is? It is? It's my, It's my.
It's the most likely. It's like a poorly kept secret.
This kind of feels like it's gonna work. I just
don't know if it's gonna be Paul George or Kauai
or both. That that part, I don't know, but I
do think that I do think that it will be.
It will be Lebron, Lebron in l A. I like
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it on the same side, rare for us, you know,
we usually disagree, but I like it. Um okay, so
uh stug gotlip show here on Fox Sports Radio. Um, Kyrie,
Kyrie Irving is kind of a different sort of dude, right,
you have a different sort of dude. And I've seen
you tweet about it, I've seen you write about it,
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I've heard heard what you've said about it that you
think he wants to be in New York next year,
not this year, the following year. Why yeah, I mean
you look at the guy. He he is a little different,
as you said. You know there's a guy from Jersey. Um.
He he really wanted his own show. You know, he
had the show in Cleveland. Then Lebron came back, and
you know, he was unhappy even though they wanted title.
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He's like, I'm out of here. You know, it's Lebron's team.
You know, I want to I want to beat him
out the door. So then he goes to Boston and
they really exceeded expectations without him, and the whole story,
the whole narrative is Wells Brad Stevens team and you know,
here comes Jason Tatum and you know, oh yeah, they
have Kyrie Irving. Also, Irving is going to be a
free agent. Is gonna opt out obviously and and have
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the chance next year to go anywhere he wants. I
think he's gonna want to pick his own team, and
he's gonna want to play with someone who's kite with
and we all know him and Jimmy Butler are good
friends dating back to the Team USA days. They're both
very Hollywood. You know, Jimmy Butler hangs out with Mark Wahlberg.
He's out here in l A running a club scene
in the summer. And Kyrie Irving, as we know, has
a movie coming out. He's now magically right ahead of
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his movie dating this chick who dated Justin Bieber. So
it all adds up to me if they want to
be either in l A or New York, those two
as a team, and the Knicks, because of their salary
cap situation, can't afford both the new the Brooklyn Nets.
Based on that trade yesterday for Dwight Howard now can
afford to Max guys. And I think Kyrie and Jimmy
Butler in Brooklyn is going to be a live option
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for those two next year. I've heard about the Brooklyn
thing for a long time. Okay, let me explain to Usance,
not not not Jimmy Butler and Kyrie Irving. Okay, Brooklyn
is not New York. Okay, you have to go across
a bridge. You have to go across a bridge to
get there. It's not that's going going to Brooklyn is
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going to the Clippers. It's the exact same thing. And
you're The assertion that you're making is, oh, it's somebody else. Like, look,
Kyrie Irving would have to be the first point guard
in NBA history to be worse under Brad Stevens than
he was elsewhere, whereas the opposite is true. You know,
I mean Terry Rogier was their fourth guard and he
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performed better than that level in the playoffs. Why because
he's playing for Brad and the system is really good
for guards and lets them play. Kyrie was having a
great year, he had need problems, and he'll come back
into play with a great team and he'll be the
best player on that team. The idea that he's already
got mentally packed to go to the Clippers of the
East and that's the Brooklyn nets to me, is a
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huge leap. There's lots of people who are friends with
the idea that, oh, he's out in l A all
the time. Guess who else is out in l A
in the summertime. Everybody, Kevin rand has bought a house
in l A, like every literally every NBA player spend
spend time living or working out in Los Angeles. So
you have no proof to be you have no proof,
Senator Mackinn. But I won't say this, he walked away
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from Lebron Jings. You don't think you walk away from
Brad Stephens and Gordon Hayward. I mean, come on, the guy,
Kyrie Irving, this is the dude who's pushing this. But why,
but why again? But why would he? Why did he
walk away from Lebron James's It wasn't just that he
wanted his own show. It was that Lebron wasn't willing
to commit to staying so they couldn't get up. Paul
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George is that Lebron ran the entire organization, so you
never felt like you had had to say in something.
Kyrie also getting much a part of the Celtics. They're
building a roster that can win a championship for the
next five years if you keep everybody together. That's the
way to work. And so the idea that you're gonna
do that give it away to go to the Clippers
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of the East and red completely rebuild it with the
Brooklyn Nets, I think is a huge lea you're taking
before we ever see this. But at the same time,
let's remind everybody when they were together in the playoffs.
Remember there was a practice the legendary story that Tyron
Lou tried to tell Kyrie something and Kyrie basically was
not listening to him and said, go tell Lebron it's
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his team and just walked off the court. I'm telling you, man,
this guy really likes the idea of ownership. He doesn't
like answering to anybody, and I can just see things
going sideways next year if he doesn't feel he's in control.
I like Kyrie having a lot. I got a Kyrie
Irving jersey, you know, I don't. I don't mind a
been in that. I'm a fan of his work. I'll
probably see Uncle Drew. It feels to me like he
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wants to be the guy in control, and I don't
think that's the case in Boston that Jason McIntyre check
him out tonight in the NBA Draft. Couch for Fox
Sports Radio, j Mack, thanks so much for joining us, Dude,
all right, Doug, thanks a little man. Fox Sports Radio
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and within the I Heart Radio app. What you haven't
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heard it is the Cleveland Cavaliers looking to package Kevin
Love or package anything else. They have her package expiring
contracts with their number eight pick to move up or
to get a player. You notice that, if you noticed,
there has been no chatter out of Cleveland about that
sort of stuff. Do you know why that is? That's
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because Cleveland he's doing the right thing, even if it's
the hard thing. You think your girl is gonna leave you,
You're get in the sense that she's gonna call it off.
What do you do right, You've been together for four years.
You just think she's not feeling it anymore. Just do
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you go do the hail Mary and ask her to
marry you? Do you go get a ring? Even though
you're like, yeah, we've been fighting a lot more, let's
plan a trip. One of the one of the biggest
mistakes that married couples make, or just couples make, is
in an effort to try and fix things. Do you
know what they do? Romist do what they do an
effort to try and fix things in a long, long
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time relationship. I don't let's have another kid. I'm not
I'm not laughing at all. People will do that. The music.
I'm just telling you, like, if when they try to
have another kid, that'll fix things right. But all a
kid does is not sleep. All a kid does is
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make the things that you didn't. Well, he's a great dad,
he can be. She's a great mom, she can be.
They're not a great couple. Still, people will do this,
or they'll buy a dog. Right if they already have
kids and you decide to not even maybe you had
the little snip snip, they'll buy a dog. You know what,
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it'll bring the kids close to the family closer. It
doesn't now of a sudden, the dog gets caught in
the middle. You try and have another kid, the kid
gets or if it's a relationship that hasn't in marriage,
guy be like, you know what, I'm just gonna ask
her to marry her. Like like, that's gonna and that
will backfire. Remember last time around, Cleveland had Mike Brown
as their coach. They won sixty one games in the
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regular season. They made a bunch of moves to try
and keep in there, including bringing in Shaquille O'Neil. Do
you remember that they lose in the Eastern Conference finals
and they fired Mike Brown. That'll do it. That'll show
Lebron we're serious about making changes around here. And what
did Lebron do here gone. Having a kid doesn't fix
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her relationship, Buying a dog doesn't fix the family, and
putting a wedding ring on her family on her finger
is not going to make her love you more or
more truly. If Lebron James is leaving, he's leaving. If
he's staying, he's staying. But for the future of the franchise,
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the best thing you can do is, let's go draft
the best player available at eight. Let's see what have
with Lebron. If he leaves and we can do a
sign and trade, great, get something back that we want
in return. Otherwise we're gonna have a massive spat uh,
a massive batch of cap space. And we'll figure that
out when the time comes. If she's gonna leave, putting
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a ring on her finger is only going to delay that.
If you're going to get a divorce, having a kid
is only going to delay that and by the way,
make it more expensive. So that's my thing on Cleveland,
Like I think, sometimes the best thing to do is nothing.
This happens with houses. Happens with houses. Like you're trying
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to sell your house, and look, if you want to
paint the inside, you you can paint the inside. That
might lighten it up. But the idea of doing construction
before you're gonna sell the house, all you're doing is
putting more cost on it and lessening your profit or
if you're gonna lose money in the house, making your
loss even more. If somebody's gonna buy your house and
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read do your house, they're gonna want to redo it
in their own vision. Unless you're gonna redo the entire thing.
That's one thing. But you're gonna do just like small jobs,
like you know, we just need to redo this bathroom,
don't do it. Don't redo the bathroom. Somebody's gonna buy
your house, let them redo the bathroom. If you're gonna
if if Lebron James is gonna walk out the door,
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we'll figure it out that it doesn't make it better,
It actually makes it worse. And so Kobe Altman, for
all his youth, all is inexperience and the fact that
he did a decent job, it really got a housed
in both of these trades that they've made. Regarding kar
Kyrie Irving, I think this is the smart thing. The
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smart play. Do nothing, draft a really good player and
figure out how much cash space you have before you
get your next player. Be sure to catch live editions
of the Doug gott Leaps Show weekdays at three p m.
Eastern noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I
Heart Radio app Earlier today, Baker Mayfield was on the Herd.
I thought there was some fascinating, fascinating stuff. We'll get
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to it with Lincoln Riley, head coach of the University
of Oklahoma. Momentarily, Um, I thought that I thought that
Baker gave it back to Colin pretty good. Um, But
I thought it was an you know, look, Baker was
really prepared for the interview, and he purpored himself well,
and he showed that he got a little bit of
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that fighting spirit that he's not willing to let himself
be cast in a light that he doesn't feel to
be accurate. So I like my my issue with with
Baker has only been I do think there's a point
to which he has all the intangibles in the world. Um,
but there's a certain tant needed need for tangibles, not
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just intangibles. So and look, let's not act like Baker is.
Though I don't like false humility, I do like some humility.
I didn't love the idea that that Sandy a go
one to meet or la excuse me, the Chargers want
to meet with him, and he blew off their playbook,
which tells anybody that the Chargers couldn't draft him. I
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can't draft a guy who tells everybody not only did
I not look at the playbook, but I'm gonna tell
Sports Illustrated I didn't look at the playbook. Can I
ask you, guys a question that I don't know the
answer to? Buyer this is for you. I'll get I'll
get to that in a second. About the Argentina thing,
I just don't know enough about it. Um. Lincoln Rile
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is the head coach of Oklahoma. He was just awarded
a contract extension, a little bump in pay after one year,
and all they did was win a Big Twelve title,
go to the national semi finals, and win a High
Spoo Trophy for his quarterback. He's oh us head coach?
He joins, us, Uh, Lincoln, how are you? I'm great dog?
How you doing good man? What's it? What's it mean
(31:54):
to you? That? Jokes Tigleone who originally believed in you,
said you know what you're doing? Such a good job.
Let's give you a bump after you one. That means
a lot, you know. I think in any any business,
anything that we do in life, to have people that
that support you that uh, you know, it makes you
feel wanted and appreciated for for what you've done, give
you some security, which is a little you know, a
(32:15):
little bit tougher to get in this business maybe than
some others. Um, yeah, it means a great deal. I know.
They you know, they've always been very proactive with us,
very fair. We've been lucky to have some good success
and uh and Oklahoma has been been great to us.
So yeah, I think it just sends a message that
did a lot of great things that have been happening
and uh and hopefully the best is yet to come.
(32:36):
All right, tell me something that you learned from being
a head coach that you didn't know, Like, you know,
you think you know because you're right there next to
a couple of really good guys in your last two jobs.
But now you're like, well, I hadn't, I had no idea,
you know, probably just how much of it really is
is managing people, um, you know, and how how important
(32:57):
that is. Uh, there's just so much that goes into
that out on a day to day basis, and uh,
you know, you when you're lucky like we are to
have as many great people in this program as we do.
I think it's just about you know, setting the direction
and then and then doing your best to manage those
people and let them do what they do best and
then and then you can turn out a really great
product on the field, you know, which we've been able
(33:18):
to do. But yeah, there's uh, you know, there's so
much that goes into it at this level, you know,
and then when yours involved on the on the football
side of it, Uh, you know as I am that
you gotta have a lot of great people around us.
So we've been very blessed in that regard. How often
you get home to Texas not much, not as much
as I should honestly, probably with it being that close,
(33:40):
I'm probably they're recruiting more than I'm actually there, you know,
going home, but probably twice a year right now. Well,
I mentioned it because you picked up this Bob Stoove's
Ohio accent during your time, and I just wonder when
they go home, they're like, dude, wait, wait, what happened? Actually,
it's maybe all you you grow up in Texas and
then you you get out to the east coast North
(34:01):
Carolina and then back here, and yeah, it's actually maybe
doesn't know doesn't know where it's at right now. No,
I mean, like, listen, well we all like you. You
get a bit, you get two stoops boys that you're
working with, you know, the last couple of years, and
you're like, look, I guess this is how everybody talks.
And you pick up patterns of speech from the people
around you, right, that's how like accents are formed. And
so I just I just wonder if when you go
(34:22):
back home, they're like, wait, what they think you used
to y'all? You used to y'all everything, and now you
don't y'all anything. I know, what's what's wrong with me?
I need to go spend some more time back home.
I think that's that's accurate. How do you think Baker
did with cal here today? You know, I didn't see it.
A couple of the guys told me that he did
pretty well. So you Baker's not the Baker's pretty sharp.
(34:44):
And also he's not gonna and he's definitely not gonna
back down. That's not his Uh, that's not his and moo.
So I'm sure. I'm sure he kept I'm sure he
kept calling on his toes. Here, here's here's here's Baker
earlier today with Colin learning on learning from his mistakes.
My mistakes are are not things that need to be
a franchise quarterback. But within football there's a lot of
(35:05):
trash talk, a lot of stuff that has not been
made aware to everybody. Yeah, there was mistakes, but I've
definitely learned from it. I wouldn't a franchise quarterback then.
I'm hoping it would be one in the future and
I can learn from my mistakes and do that. Do
do you think do you think it's it's legitimate that
he has evolved and learned from any of the missteps.
Was the cross grab of the flint of the flag
(35:27):
planting that some deemed to be mistakes, Yeah, no, I
think he definitely has. I wouldn't say that the flag
planning was one, but you know, he's uh, yeah, there's
some of the mistakes that he's made. I mean, I
think the first thing was he owned up to them
in the beginning, which a lot of guys, you know,
that's that's difficult for them to do, especially on such
a public stage. Uh, you know that that has happened
(35:48):
on And yeah, I definitely would just day to day
dealing with him, knowing him like I do, I think
he's absolutely made progress. Is he perfect? No? Uh? Is Uh?
Does he still have some growing to do? Of course
he does, But I think he's shown that he's he's
on the right track. Um. You know that he's learning
from his mistakes, not making the same ones over and
over again. So uh, And for him, it's a little
(36:10):
bit of a balance of some of the things that
maybe have caused some of those mistakes are also what
what makes him great. And so I think he's smart
enough to realize that. He Yes, you want to grow
and mature and continue get better, but you don't want
to take away the thing that really separates you as well.
And so I think he's learning the balance those Yeah,
(36:32):
you gotta balance it, you know, I mean you see,
I mean all the great ones you see have this
that intense, burning desire. Uh. And I think guys, as
they've gotten older, I've learned to manage it better and
when to use it, when not to not let it
get you in trouble. But also let it. Let it
allow you to play at the highest level possible. Yeah,
that's that's but that's the hard part, right, Like how
do I how do I keep that edge and yet
(36:54):
don't let it? And I'm with you on the flag
the flag planting, like I'm even I'm even with you,
Like on the crotch scrab you know, when they didn't
want to shake his hands and they're trying to take
shots at him, you know, talking a little I'm okay
with a little trash talk. I don't I've never had
a problem with any of that stuff with Baker. My
my big question is, Look, you've coached this offense, and
(37:17):
you've and this offense and the style of not just
the style of offense, but the way in which you
guys have kind of taken college football, especially in Texas
and an Oklahoma by storm has produced from case Keenum
to Menzel to to the ward kid that was at Houston.
Like we've seen huge numbers from guys that are really
good quarterbacks and guys are just okay quarterbacks. I guess
(37:40):
my question becomes, you take him out of that offense,
you put him in the NFL. Um, how hard is
it going to be too evolved to being an NFL
quarterback making NFL throws with bigger players where you aren't
a step ahead of the defense. Yeah. I think there's Uh,
I think a couple of things. One, the NFL offensively
is more like college right now than it's ever been,
(38:00):
and I think in five years it's gonna be even
more that direction. I mean, that's definitely the trend. You
you look at the two teams that I think resemble
us the most offensively, and that's the New England Patriots
in the in the Philadelphia Eagles, and it's not surprising
to me that those are two teams, you know, standing
at the end of the year in the Super Bowl.
So I think it's I think the offenses are trending
more towards what's going on here, I think, which will
(38:22):
provide some familiarity. Um. And I think I think the
thing I would say for Baker is, you know, he
did it for three straight years. Uh. He did it
against elite competition, he did it in big games, and
he did it with a kind of a rotating cast,
a rotating supporting cast. We had a lot of guys,
you know, Starving Shepherd, d D. Westbrook, you know Joe Mixon, smile,
(38:43):
JP Ryan that that we're here some of the years
and then gone, and he had to do it with
different guys each year and still did it at a
at a high level and was the most efficient quarterback
that's ever played in college. So uh yeah, I think
the guys, you know, I think he's proven he can
do it, and I think the direction of the NFL
offenses will well absolutely benefit him. Right now, Lincoln Riley,
Oklahoma's head football coach, joining us in the Doug Gotlip Show.
(39:05):
All right, let's talk about your current number one quarterback
QB one is Kyler Murray. For people who didn't follow
his high school of career, it's about as good a
high school career as you're ever gonna have. I think
he played for his dad right at Alan High School
forty two and oh as the starting quarterback. Uh then
he goes to A and M and he got to
start early on, but then gets beaten out, transfers to
O U, and he's sitting kind of waiting for Baker
(39:27):
Mayfield to to either leave early last year or to
graduate and play. So now he's gonna be a starting quarterback.
Then he goes and has a great breakthrough baseball season,
and and he's taken ninth overall in the Major League
Baseball Draft. Did you did you know going into the
Major League Baseball Draft he was gonna be selected that high. Uh, well,
(39:48):
first off, he's not the starter here. Yeah, we got
a heck of a competition going on right now with
Austin Kendall. So we'll we'll see how that plays out.
But colors, you know your colors are He's a It's
an interesting story. Uh. We knew coming into this, uh
when when we first had conversations about him coming to
Oklahoma that the baseball was going to be in factor.
And so based on our conversations before we ever stiff
(40:09):
Foot on this campus, I was very comfortable with the
fact that he was gonna play college football regardless of
what happened with baseball, and he and his family have
stayed true to that. Yeah, it's it's it's pretty amazing though. Really,
you know, think a guy, I think he practiced with
our baseball team like ten times this year, you know,
and then goes out and has a kind of year
and shows account of ability that make him a top
(40:30):
a top ten pick in the in the Major League
Baseball draft. So it's it's a great story. It's it's
it's very impressive what he's been able to do on
both um, I think football wise. Uh, you know, he's
really benefited from being out the spotlight here, you know
for the last couple of years, you know, getting a
chance to watch Baker the way he prepared. I think
for Kyler, a chance to to grow up, to mature,
(40:52):
to uh to really get himself ready to have a
chance to be a quarterback, a really good starting quarterback
at this level. UM. So I just think the whole
period of time has been good for him. So he's
in a good place right now. And and uh here
working out with our guys, and like I said, we've
got two really good ones between him and Austin Kendall
that are going to go at it pretty good and
and we'll see, uh we we'll see who's standing in
(41:14):
the end. Okay. So listen, like you recruited Austin out
of Charlotte and um, and so he's going to be
with the program um as well. But you know you
feel like he's kind of more all in, Like does
that that has to play a factor in who you
decide to play, doesn't it? Well, I just don't look
at that way I look at it. You know, Austin
(41:35):
is absolutely all in, but I mean Kyler is too.
I mean because I think a lot of guys, you know,
if they weren't all in, he would be full time
baseball right now. I mean, he's got, you know, obviously
a great opportunity there, and a lot of people would think, well,
why wouldn't you just go do that. You've got, you know,
a good chunk of money in the bank, a team
that's invested in you. Why wouldn't you just go ahead
and go get started and risk injury or whatever have you.
(41:57):
And uh, So I think that shows his commitment that
he's been willing to put that on hold, that he's
been willing to go through the grind of trying to
play two sports. Wouldn't play him one as hard as
hell in its own uh and he's he's played two.
So I think they're both equally committed. And so now
at the end of the day, it's gonna be about
us just being as good as we can this year,
and whoever helps us do that, that's that's who we'll play,
(42:20):
all right. I just want to make sure that wasn't
a that wasn't There wasn't something against the cheerleaders when
Austin had an errand passed the spring game and took
out that cheerleader. There's no previous relationship we need to
talk about, right. If it is, it's a very good accuracy,
but uh yeah, not yet. It was cout a while deal.
We had a windy day and ball just kind of
took off, and uh yeah, she good things. She was
(42:41):
pretty tough. She hung in there, well she did. She
popped back up and she was cheering on the sideline.
Lincoln Riley, the head coach of Oklahoma joining us in
Doug otach. The last thing, and I think this is
incredibly important for football fans. Something you said earlier and
I was listening, you mentioned how NFL offenses are starting
to mirror are some of these college offenses? Why has
(43:03):
it taken so long for this to happen? Like we saw, Look,
we saw what they did in Houston when um they
put Deshaun Watson back there. They started running some zone read,
letting him move around. Uh they changed some of that
kind of the motion game stuff that that he used
in college. We saw with r G three but then
then the Redskins tried to morph him into kind of
(43:23):
a classic pro style thrower. Why now is it something
that's accepted at the higher level. I think two reasons. Um.
I think a lot of times trends take time to
catch on. You know, I can remember fifteen years ago
and you know, we were at Texas Tech and we
had a pretty good run offensively. It's you know, I
was shocked all those years that people weren't trying to
(43:45):
hire more of our assistants and and that that the
thing wasn't taken off. And then finally somebody did it
and there was there was more success, and then it
just it blew up from there. And I think it's
been the same thing at the NFL level. I think
there's been a resistance to almost kind of not not egotistical,
it's not the right word, but hey, this is how
we've done in the NFL forever, so this is just
(44:06):
how we're gonna do it. And then I think, as
some people have branched out and tried and those teams
have been very successful, if you've just seen more and
more start to go to it. And then I think
the other thing is with the with the new hour
rules with the NFL players, the fact that coaches can't
have them up there all the time. There's much more
limited contact between coaches and players, um, which is a
(44:28):
lot closer to the model we have in college. You
only have so many hours and so many different times
of the year that you can work with them. And
so I think you've got to have a system that
allows you to be able to get that implemented so
guys can play well early. And uh so, yeah, those
are two factors in my mind. Um. Uh, Lincoln, I
don't want to ask you about the Nike uniforms because
I don't know if you know this. I used to
(44:49):
do local radio in Oklahoma City, and I remember when
Nebraska they just put a stripe in their pants and
fans up there. When crazy. But you guys have switched
over to these Nike uniforms into the four kind of
different looks, I mean, and and things you didn't think
you'd have to deal with. Um, with the new uniforms,
have you started to get some calls from some of
the blue hair, some the old folks that that donated
(45:11):
a monty of years, like don't you ever you tell
those you tell those people in Niki, you ain't gonna
change my uniforms. Have you gotten the calls yet? You
don't know, because I think they know we're we're smart
enough to understand. We've got some of the most iconic uniforms.
So we're we're very conservative as far as you know.
Change it will update, of course, but we're gonna we're
gonna always stay with our traditional uniforms. They're they're too good.
(45:32):
They need to change. But the jump Man, you know,
the whole Jordan brand has been a special deal for us.
It's it's it's very exclusive, um and it's uh something
that's you know, just very unique, which we think our
program is here too. So it's been a great thing
for our players, our recruits. I think our friends have
had fun with it. And uh, it'll be a fun
ride with with the Jordan brand. Yeah, it should be
(45:52):
really really cool. All right, Hey, thanks so much for
joining us. Congrats on the new deal. We look forward
to catching up with you once you select the starting quarterback.
Enjoy your summer, uh In Norman, all right, thanks, I
appreciate you.
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