Jim Boeheim & Tom Crean Join The Show

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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Boomp America, Doug Gottlieb Show,
Fox Sports Radio, coming to you from the beautiful sunny
City of Angels, site of one of the Sweet sixteens.
We got a great show planning for you today. Jim Beheim,

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head coach of the Syracuse Orange still alive, last team
in but one of the last sixteen teams standing. Um.
We're also gonna be joined by Tom Crean, former Indiana
and Marquette head coach, the new head coach of the
Georgia Dogs. And Rick Buker, longtime NBA analyst NBA scribe,

(00:43):
will join us as well. We'll talk about Lebron, We'll
talk about Steph Curry's ankle, we'll talk all things Association
and Gotham Show pre will join us. He's the director
of Tom Versus Time. So we have a jam packed,
loaded show for you. Tis the season, not just for

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the Sweet six team, but for declarations. Would you like
to declare something? Sir? Trey Young has declared for the
NBA Draft as a freshman. Trey Young from Norman, Oklahoma,
played for Oklahoma, which is in Norman, Oklahoma led the
country in scoring an ASSIS and UH look it's a

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there's a mixture there. Will he be drafted, yes? Should
he go now? In terms of his stock being high? Sure?
Is it a mistake? Yes, not just from his perspective,
but from somebody who's going to draft him. And I
know what you're thinking, God Lib, you've been drinking the

(01:53):
hate raid. God Lib, didn't you learn your lesson with
Steph Curry. It's a fair point. I did miss on
Steph Curry. I thought he should have stayed in school
an extra year as we got closer to the draft,
after what has been my maligned immediate analysis when Steph
did declare, I thought the upside of Steph Curry was

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Jeff hornessec really good NBA player, not a star. I
was wrong. I was wrong. And when you look at
uh Trey Young, I told people a long time ago
he's college basketball's version of Steph Curry. But remember how
many things had to go right for Steph Curry to

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be Steph Curry. He had injuries his first couple of years,
and because of those injuries, and because he played for
a completely inept organization initially, initially, wins and losses weren't
that important, and shot selection was slowly but surely changed.

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And even that they've been always embraced staff being staff.
But in the first couple of years, keep in mind
he was on the team with Monte Ellis and the
same Golden State Warriors who champions Steph Curries run to
two straight m vps, including unanimous m v P offered
Steph Curry in a trade. They said, hey, you can

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have Monte Ellis or you can have Steph Curry, and
the Bucks chose monte Ellis. Suddenly did the Warriors not
want staff? But the Bucks didn't want staff. And that
was after a couple of years in the league. So, um,
here's the statement on Trey Young. He is a very

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good kid. There's there are no flaws about him as
a person. He's not a gang banger. He's not a
threat to society. But somebody's gonna get fired from drafting
Trey It is not a it is there is a
wrong possibility of that. Now. Part of it is that

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guys have been have been fired for drafting young players
for a long time. And that's because what happens when
you draft a young player you play them too soon.
The t because the owners like, why do I have
this guy? Well, because he's gonna be good. We if
he's gonna be good, let's play him. And so you
play him, and what happens you lose, You lose, You

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end up getting fired. But somebody will draft Trey Young,
and whoever drafts Trey Young in the lottery is going
to lose their job over it. It's the is that
the hell you want to die on. Bitcoin has made
a lot of people rich. There are gonna be people

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who try and chase the next cyber the next cyber money,
the next cyber coin, cryptocurrency is what it's called. They're
gonna chase the next cryptocurrency into bankruptcy. This happens with
people in the n c A tournament. I gotta find
a twelve seed because twelve seeds always beat fiefteen seats.

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Excuse me, twelve seeds always beat five seats. Always happens.
Did it happen this year? London? Look, it's gonna happen
in the NFL. I like Baker Mayfield, but people want
him to be Russell Wilson. Remember Russell Wilson's first couple
of years in the NFL. You know, Russell Wilson's first
year as a starter. He beat out. Part of it

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was he went to a team they had Matt Flynn
who had signed as a free agent, and one Matt
Flynn was a bad bale of goods. They had signed
a guy that couldn't play long term as a starter,
and they got him as a discount. And he was
surrounded by an incredible defense. Incredible defense and at the

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time San Francisco still had not yet hit. But more
than anything, when when Russell Wilson in his first year
as a starting quarterback, do you know he had nine
games when he threw for less than two hundred yards
as a passer less than two hundred yards as a passer.

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Everybody pointed to his record. Russell Wilson was able to
grow into being what we think of as a star quarterback.
And he's probably somewhere between the I don't know, six
eight to twelve best quarterback. He's darn good, hey, but
he's never to this point proven to be Drew Brees,
proven to be Aaron Rodgers, proven to be Tom Brady

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like the numbers, Belie how Good and even Richard Sherman,
who is currently holding a press conference as a now
cornerback with Sampsonisco forty Niners called him out of such
like he's gonna not go all all crazy here about
how good Russell Wilson is. But people want Baker Mayfield
to be the next Russell Wilson, to be the next
Drew Brees because he's small, he's super smart in terms

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of football i Q, he's tough, he's got a good arm,
and you're like, yeah, that's the guy. Look, Russell Wilson
has a good enough arm to play professional baseball. Drew
Brees is a once in a generation quarterback in terms
of his size and ability to throw. He's a first
ballot Hall of Famer. Are you're gonna die in that hill?

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You're gonna chase the next cryptocurrency. Look, here's the thing
with Trey Young. Since February one, in the last eleven
games he played of college basketball, he shot thirty six
from the field from three point range in eleven games.

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He also average nearly six turnovers a game. He turns
over a bunch, holds onto the ball of bunch. And
though he lit up college basketball before, people had a
scout on him. Once people figured out that he was
dominating the basketball and made him go left and made
him shoot over the top. He struggled, and college basketball
is down talent wise. I'm not saying he won't play

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in the NBA, but somebody's going to invest their fortune
in him as their cryptocurrency, thinking he's Steph Curry's bitcoin. Okay,
Steph Curry. That investment paid off for the Golden State Warriors.
There were some other things that went his way. And
there's a chance, I'm not saying there's zero chance, there's
a chance that Trey Young could become a smaller, slightly

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less act athletic version who ball dominates the ball a
little bit more, but he can't and doesn't defend. He
has to have the ball, and he turns it over
a lot. And though he the the idea is he's
a great shooter, the numbers tell you that's not in
fact the case by any statistical measure. He was awful

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at the part of the season where he's supposed to
be playing like a sophomore in his fresh been year.
And because we missed on Bitcoin, because we missed on
Russell Wilson, because we missed on Steph Curry, because we
missed on a guy, we're gonna chase fifteen others that
look kind of similar, maybe sort of like him, and

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I'm telling you it's a good way to get yourself fired.
Jim Beeheim joins the show. Up coming next, I'll ask
him if he thought they were getting in the n
c A tournament and how this run is different or
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He's a Hall of Fame coach that his alma Maters
won a national championship and they've gone from what we
were told was last team in to one of the
last sixteen standing. He's Jim Beheim, head coach of the
Syracuse Orange Coach, Um, take me back to selection Sunday.

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You knew that the deck was at least partially stacked
against you based upon all the bracketologists and analysts like myself.
Did you did you think you were getting in the
n c A tournament. Well, I listened to Jerry Palm.
He had us in, so I said, oh, well, we
must be getting in now, you know, I thought it
was really close um, I thought it would be really close.

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The problem now there's about seven or eight teams that
are really close. It used to be one or two.
Now there's probably seven or eight teams, and a couple
of mid majors are not going to have the qualifications
that the committee is looking for. But I think the
biggest mistake of all that was made. And you know,
Joe Lonardi and I talked to a couple other people
that did this. The Committee has shown clearly this is

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what we want and if you don't do it, you're
not going to get in the tournament, as simple as that.
And I remember even with you, and I think you're
very smart about this. Normally a few years ago we
were tenanting the Big East, but we had a nonconference
week nonconference schedule one eighty and you said for four
weeks we shouldn't be in the tournament based on that.

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Now this year you're saying Oklahoma State should be in
their nonconference strength of schedule was three five. So you
didn't complete double take from where you were just a
few short years ago. And the committee has said, if
you're a bubble team, and obviously all these teams were
bubble teams, and you can make a case for Oklahoma State,

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Notre Dame, Middle Tennessee, St. Mary's. You can make a
case for each one of those teams, but when you
look at nonconference strength of schedule, it knocks them all
out of there, most of them. I would say, I
would say the you're you're absolutely right, and that's why
they didn't make it. And I actually didn't. I didn't
think Oklahoma State was getting in. I would say that

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the flaw and the numbers has always been this and
and maybe this is this is knowing the knowing the
game and knowing what you guys do in terms of
schedule too. Well, like, look, you play six or seven games,
you're gonna win regardless, right whether you and you have
to play more guarantee games because for years at home
because of football, because you guys generate so much more money.
There's so so the idea is what are you doing

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those other four and five games? Like they played A
and M, they played Wichita State, they played Florida State,
they played Pittsburgh, a league rival who had a really
bad year. Obviously, so they it wasn't it wasn't one
of those where they tried to play sisters of the
poor eleven times and go, hey, it's not that you
really have to be We have to get six, six

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or seven by games as well. But we got Toledo,
Eastern Michigan, Oakland, Buffalo, and all those teams were good
this year. Obviously Buffalo was better than anyone might have lot,
but Toledo and Oakland and Eastern Michigan all had great years.

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And there are other games that we had. Obviously Maryland
was down a little bit, but still it's a good game. Um,
Georgetown was down a little bit of it was at Georgetown.
Obviously Connecticut was down. But we tried to play nine
teams like that. The only two teams we didn't, which
we played every year for forty years is corn Ellen

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and Colgate, and they were better than they've been in
a long time. So we were a little bit fortunate
in that. UM. But you know, we had a non
conference strengthive schedule of the eight team No, no, listen,
I had I actually because since you've broken up from
the Big East, it's actually helped. And you know, you
guys leave home now to play where you went through
a little like a five year thing you where you

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didn't but since you broken up with a big East
usually playing Georgetown, playing Yukon. Uh, those are hard fought games,
and those those help. My issue actually was in conference.
You know you had you had, You got Wake twice,
you lost once, you got Pitted twice. That helps your
kind of artificially inflationtion with everybody beat Pitt this year, Right,
you only and you only got Duke once. You didn'tet

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Duke on your home floor, which I thought hurt you
because your your shot of beating Duke would have been
better obviously playing Virginia twice, right, and and and lost twice. Um, whatever,
what's what's what's done is done. But my my big
take was I watched your team play a great deal
and I just never thought, Okay, now now they have

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gotten it. You have so many young players, and there
were so many games to which I never felt like
I could watch and say that's an n c A
tournament team. Well, I think it just depends. I mean,
we beat Clemson, and Clemson's in the sweet six teams, Um,
they're pretty good. We lost in overtime at Florida State
in overtime. We had a two point lead with eighteen

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seconds to go. So they're in the sweet sixteen. So
I think, you know, we showed what we could do
and against good teams on the row and at home,
but we were a bubble team, there's no doubt about it,
no question about it. But our strength of schedule got
us in. That's the bottom line. And I've argued in

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the past a little bit about strength of schedule because
I think Middle Tennessee and St. Mary's are good teams,
but those teams are never going to have the wins
they need to get. They have to win their league.
And you know, it's you can argue about that, and
I would argue about that, but that's the facts. You know,

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you have to And the one thing I give Gonzaga
credit four if they were not to beat St. Mary's
this year, they would have gotten the tournament because they
had three really good nonconference wins. They play five or
six people every year, nonconference big people. Well, No, they're
they're also they're Gonza, They're they're different than they I mean,

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they nearly won a national championship last year. They've they've
elevated themselves like they've always played those games. No, no,
and that's and that's what's that's what separated them. Some
of it. I don't know what what was it was
cart before Horse, you know, which did they win the
game that they win in c A term in games
and then get that schedule and you know, they've taken
advantage of the fact that that that people want to

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see them on TV and they've always played those games,
and you get enough of them, and it it allows
you to not win your conference. Jim Beeheim, head coach
of Syracuse, Let's actually talk about this tournament because it
is crazy. But I think there's you defended Tony Bennett,
and of course I agree with you, but it's interesting
he's getting criticized because people say, hey, look, you can't

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play that slow and win big in the tournament, whereas
I'm watching your team and the beauty to how you've
been able to win with this team is long possessions
on offense and making people take their time against your
zone defense and take shots under pressure, isn't it. It's
a different way of getting the same result exactly. I mean,
if you look at Villanova win in the National Championship

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with the great upset, they took their time, they played zone. Uh,
you win with defense in the tournament. Now you have
to play some offense too, and if we don't play
offense going forward better, we won't win. But you can
make a case that many champions have won with their

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defense mainly, and you but you do have to play offense.
The problem, the only problem I had, the only uh
surprise for me this year. Virginia was noticeably better offensively,
but they were better offensively because of Hunter. We played
them in Charlottesville where ahead the whole first half. Hunter

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comes in the game, gets twelve points in the first half,
so we're down about four. Now he's out of the game.
We come back pretty even in the second half in Charlottesville.
He comes back in and scored seven points and we
end up losing by about eight eight points. But he
had nineteen points. He was the complete difference in the game.
I'm not saying that would have happened against UNBC. Once

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in a while, there's an outlier game in this tournament.
Whoever thought Texas and him like three remember three weeks ago,
whoever thought they would be North Carolina by twenty points?
You know, you know what, you know what he did?
He did a Jim be Hunt. He did exactly what
you when you had Orensey on Owaku, right Orensey was hurt,

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and you wouldn't tell anybody whether or not he was
gonna play in the tournament. It was it was a
state secret, like is Arenzy Onwaka gonna play? There's no
there was no chance he was gonna play, coach, and
so we didn't find out that DeAndre Hunter wasn't playing
until the Monday of the tournament. And of course nobody
made any adjustment to their seed. They won the a

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CEC won the a CEC tournament. Of course. Meanwhile, he
can't play. They weren't really a one seed without him,
and that ultimately been given a one seed even if
that had been known. But but but truth be told,
they weren't nearly now maybe not as good. They also
weren't as versatile without him, and that no question. But
no one would have ever thought that they would lose

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to NBC. It was Unfortunately, it's a game that happens
in this tournament to somebody, um, almost every year. You know,
there's other games, there's other games in this tournament this
year that you would have never I mean, how does
Cincinnati losing twenty two point leads? You just can't see
that coming. Uh, you really almost can't see Xavier losing

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a twelve point lead. I mean, there's things in this
tournament that are now happening that are new for and
will continue to go forward. I think because these teams
are really much much better that are lower seeds, and
the higher seeds are not quite as good as they
used to be. Completely agree with you. I think also

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not as deep as that you used to be. Right,
that's the big You know this because like here's what
you run to. You've got a great recruiting class coming in,
plus you get your son sitting out. But but now
you know you're your two best players because of your
success in the tournament. It's gonna be hard to keep
Brisett battle in school and not not going to the
NBA D So they either if they play and they
play well, they go to the NBA and if they

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don't play, they get mad and they transfer out. So
nobody has it. And and the one parallel between both
Cincinnati and Xavier. Cumberland fouls out for Cincinnati and they
don't have any depth, and Mcura gets in foul trouble,
fouls out, and Xavier has some depth, but they don't
have JP Mercura, a senior four year starter and they
end up collapsing. Isn't that Maybe as much as the

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top end talent is younger, it's also the lack of
depth that's changed. Well, if you lose your best player,
it really doesn't matter if you have depth, it's gonna
it's gonna be a problem. And that's always true in
the tournament, as part of the tournament, as part of
any game you play. When you're best player, get some
foul trouble, you've got problems. But I think you know,

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with our guys, um our guys are pretty committed to
staying for another year. I think that anything is possible.
I never I never doubt that anything could happen. But
I think players are starting to see that if you're
not a top ten pick, you're going to be in
the D League next year or the G League. There's
just no space up there for anybody except the really

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rifted players. And uh, they did a study the last
five years ago. All the guys in the second half
of the draft are out of the league now, I
mean they're not even in the league. So it's it's
I think kids are starting to see it's like I
need to go back, I need to get better and
go into the league as a higher draft pick. I

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agree that Jim Beheim joining us a Hall of Fame
coach of the Syracuse Horns. They getting ready to take
on the Duke Blue Devils. Who have they haven't borrowed,
they have stolen your zone. I know, well they changed
it up a little bit, and it's in some ways
it's better because they're so down big and strong and
physical inside and even at the guard spot. Why didn't
you trademark You should have trademarked you should have trademarked

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trademarks the three pet you should have trade trademarked the zone.
I'd like to I'd like to have not them. I'd
like to have him not playing zone. Actually, we've been
pretty good against zones this year, even though we're challenged offensively.
We exception of the exception being a Duke we had
a horrific game there, but offensively, but we we played
pretty good against zones this year. So I'm optimistic that

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we'll play better against their zone. But there's always just big.
I mean, they're so big and strong. They can get
you to take a tough shot and they and you're
not getting against like against most owns. You can get
some offensive rebounds and not so much against them. They're
really a good rebounding team out of his zone, and
that's always a weakness against his own. We've been better

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at it this year, although we got murdered on the
im ever said, I know, I mean the statistics are
crazy and winning that that Michigan State game. Truth be told,
your zone is not a two three, right, it's like
a two to one, like to to one, but it's
it's a combination of a two three and a matchup.

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We kind of combine both. But it's uh, it's not
quite as good as these teams have made it look.
But I mean it's still a pretty good defense. It's
a very good defense. Is it in? People? Does it get?
Do you think it got into Michigan State's head? You know,
you never know. It's hard to talk to think, but

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they got a little bit tight sometimes playing at home,
even the home game, if you're late in the game
and you you know you you're you're supposed to win,
you think you're supposed to win, you start to tighten
up a little bit on the three point shot. But
that that does I've seen that happen. It happens to teams. Uh,

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the one avantage of playing a zone at the end
of the games, you don't hopefully you don't follow them
as much as you would in the man and man
to give them easy free throws, and you forced them
to take outside shots where you don't foul. And uh,
you know, sometimes it works. It doesn't order all the time,
or we want to heck a lot more games this

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year if we did. But our zone has gotten a
little better. You know, we're playing four new plus three freshman.
Four freshmen in the front line out of five, and
the fifth is a junior who didn't play last year
at all of the year before, so we're young up there.
It's a really young team in the front line. And
you know, our guards we talked about being veterans, but

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one's a sophomore and the others a junior who just
is starting for the first time this year. So I'm
proud of what these guys that they've done really well.
And and you know, it's hard in the tournament. You
if Arizona State makes a shot at the end of
the game, we're home and and people are saying, well,
they're not really they really weren't that good. So it's
a it's a funny game. It's it's just it's a

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heartbreaking game. I mean, I see teams go home with
a Michigan made one of the toughest shots I've ever
seen in an n C double a tournament game. Uh,
to send somebody home in the in the four kids
miss two free throws at the other end that would
have clinched the game. So I always feel bad for
those teams, those kids. And you know, you see last

(27:25):
second shots go in or go out. Uh. It's just
such a heartbreaking tournament, it really is. It's just it's uh,
it's hard to figure. I mean, if the NBA had
a one game playoff, there will be a lot of
years the best team would not win. Okay, so is

(27:46):
this a good way to decide a champion years ago
you won your championship. It's the only way. It's the
only way we can do it. Um, And you know
we're stuck with it. It's it's the way we do
it in the h It's it's great theater. I think
most of the time the best team gets there, but

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every once in a while, the best teams don't get there.
And I guess that's just the nature of the tournament.
When you play a one game, you have one. It's
just like Tiger Woods. You got four rounds of golf.
He's not winning all four. You know, he's winning some
of them, but he's not winning all four. And uh

(28:29):
in this thing, I think the Warriors, Golden State Warriors
lost the first game year they won the championship in
the playoffs, and the Spurs one year they lost their
first game in the playoffs and they wanted wanted the championship.
So it's hard. It's hard wining sudden death. Last thing, Um,
Taias has become your like you, you're Jerry McNamara, right,

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Like all three of these games he's hit big Actually,
I thought the biggest one against Michigan State. They got
a dunk and you're down five, you call it time out,
and he got an and one out of the time out.
That that's stabilized. But all three games he's gone one
on one the left side of the court and hit
him hit he hit a deep midrange pull up. Um,
is that is that something he has inside himself? Something
you say to him, something his the staff has said

(29:12):
to him, Where does that come from? He's got it,
He's got he did it at Florida State did against Georgetown.
Remember we were down three at Georgetown late in the game.
Would have been done, that would have knocked us out
of the tournament. And he made a three to put
it in overtime. So he's done that all year. He's
he makes that shot. I hope we're in the same situation,
so you should have trademarked the zone. Congratulations on the

(29:34):
three wins, good luck against Duke, and thanks for joining us.
All right, that's Jim Jim Beheim joining us on the
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Another one and done. Entering the NBA Draft first earlier today,
Trey Young of Oklahoma announced he was leaving after his
freshman year in Norman. Now Texas freshman center Mo Bamba
also leaving for the NBA Draft. Some news from the NBA.
Steph Curry hopes to be back for the Warriors Friday
when they take on Atlanta. Curry has been out with

(30:17):
an ankle injury. He'll be re evaluated today. Rockets guard
Gerald Green find twenty five grand by the NBA for
shoving Timberwolves center Gorgy jag during their game on Sunday. Doug,
there is a new football league. We will have eight teams,
ten games each, playoffs, a championship game, and our first

(30:37):
NAP will be on February nine. That's Bill Polian announcing
the launching of the Alliance of American Football League. As
you heard, it will start before the XFL is supposed
to start in They got McDonald's. We got McDowell's. They
got the big mac got they had the double Gold Arches,
We got the gold Narcs. Eight teams, Yes, get ready

(30:59):
for that coming in February, with a championship game happening
in mid April. Uh some other NFL notes. Former NFL
lineman Jonathan Martin facing multiple felonies, including making criminal threats
in connection with his threatening Instagram post made last month.
Steelers have signed safety Morgan Burnett and Dodgers third basement
Justin Turner won't need surgery on his fractured wrist, but

(31:20):
it's still expected to miss the start of the season
for the Dodgers. All right, let me. I didn't want
to get into the huge back and forth the Bahim
over the thank you dan Um. I didn't want to
get the huge back and forth over the strength of schedule.
He's right. I have in the past attacked Syracuse because
they went through like six years where he didn't play
a true road game in the nonconference. The difference is,

(31:41):
that's not what Oklahoma State did. Has nothing to do
with me going to school there, like the argument for
Oklhoma State, and they won the in the n i T.
But I again, I don't even think that proves whether
or not you belong or don't belong. They won last night,
come behind win against Stanford. They'll play Western Kentucky to
go to the n i T Final four. My argument
for Oklahoma State was simply, if you actually looked at

(32:01):
their schedule, it was it was not and intentional in
avoidance of competition. Just look at it. They played Florida State,
who I never thought Florida State was the top twenty
five team, but they're a talented team. They played them
in Sunrise. They played Wichita State, who was a top
ten team, played him at home in the non conference,

(32:22):
and then they played at Arkansas, a true road game
in the SEC Big twelve. And they played in Brooklyn
against Pittsburgh who sucked, and against Texas and m who's
very good. Like that alone, forget about the rest Tulsa
who won twenty games, and you know, charlotteho had a
terrible the rest of the games. He he and I

(32:44):
actually made the same point, which is there's like six
games they played Cornell every year, and who cared if
Cornell is good, Cornell is bad, it doesn't matter. You're
gonna win that game. You're gonna win six of your games.
Because that's the way it is with high majors playing
low majors or mid majors. And so my issue is
more with the numbers. And then within conference play, can

(33:06):
you beat the best teams in your league? And one
team proved to do it. But regardless, I think that
even Beeheim knows it doesn't. Once you get in just
kind of the magic of now you start winning games.
Had they lost the first game, which they very easily
could have lost Arizona State, suddenly people would say well, oh,

(33:28):
they don't belong in And just for the record, had
they lost that game, I would have said that has
nothing to do with the inclusion, just like when they
win games, especially by a possession or two, doesn't really
validate their inclusion. It's a separate argument. You gotta get
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half the calories. You can eat twice as many at Hooters. Uh.
Gotham Chopra is the director of Tom Versus Time. Why
the delay before we saw the Super Bowl episode? We'll
ask him next. Car shopping can be confusing with terms
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Fox Sports Radio, Here's We're gonna do. We're gonna add
that interview. Can we add that to the All Ball
podcast which is gonna drop today. Also, my brother on

(34:32):
Greg Gottlieb, Organ State assistant coach used to be a
cow Senego State sack. Stay cal Polly. Uh, he'll tell
what how it really happens in recruiting. Um. Dan dick
Ow is gonna join me on the All Ball Podcast,
and Uh, Steve Lapis joins me on the All Ball Podcast.
So we'll drop that hopefully a little bit later on today.
That's just all hoop all the time, including discussions on

(34:56):
NBA draft prospectus from some of the players we've seen
play and I have been eliminated and still playing in
the tournament. Uh. Tom Versus Time? Have you seen it?
Really well done? Really well done? And the Tom Brady
docuseries on Facebook called Tom Versus Time, which is directed

(35:17):
by goth Gotham chopro Um and it just it gives
you insight into it's in a weird way. It's almost
like this is what it was like in Russia during
the Soviet Union, like like things you would never see,
never see Tom Brady interacting with his kids, his family

(35:38):
is uh is elasticity coach. Gotham Chopra joins us on
the Doug Gottlieb Show. How did the project come to be? Well,
thanks for having me, um, Doug. Um you know it's
I would say it's almost like five years in the making.
I've known Tom for for a while and I'd say, you,
across that time, I've been trying to convince him to

(35:58):
do something like this and been up a little bit
of his world and let us see, you know, how
greatness is manufactured. Um, he's always resisted it. And then
about a year ago, I think largely because of what
happened prior season, you know, with the historic comeback into
the Falcons, the offseason stuff, um, the you know, the suspension,

(36:20):
his mom um, who was sick. So I think there
was a lot of stuff and even Tom was kind
of like, yeah, maybe I should be capturing some of this.
And then of course leading up to this past season,
turning forty and his continued commitment to performing, you know,
at an elite level, which just doesn't happen by itself,
and he kind of wanted to document that and and

(36:40):
you know, there's a defiance and Tom, like with a
lot of great athletes, like oh you don't think I
can here, let me show you. And so that's that
was sort of the seed for this series. There's also though,
and let's be honest, Scoff and Shelbro, who directed Tom
Versus Time, joining us in the Doug Gallup Show Fox
Sports Radio. There's also, Um, I think people say sure,
I'd love to do that, and they green light it

(37:01):
and they're like, all right, well that means you know,
you're gonna have to give up some of your personal space,
some of your personal freedom. Um. What was that kind
of adjustment period like for him in his family? You know,
it didn't happen overnight for sure, you know, it was gradual.
And at the beginning, Hey, this is just going to
be an off season thing, and this is really just
going to be about my physical you know the work

(37:21):
I do with his body coach Alex Guerrero, and you
know some of the offseason training stuff he does with
his teammates. And I think I was the one in
some ways that, you know, the more time I spent
with him was like, oh yeah, you know, the physical
thing is just one aspect and all this other stuff
like how do you how do you do this? Like
I'm just here, I'm seeing all this stuff with your kids,
with your wife who's traveling all the time, with everything

(37:43):
that goes into I mean, it just wouldn't be the
real story if we all we focused on was your pliability, right,
And so I think that again, it's a process. Hey, Tom,
nobody wants to see you stretch. I'm sorry, but love you,
love you, but we need to see a little bit
more than you eating avocado ice cream and some stretching.
That's we got to see a little more, right, Oh absolutely,

(38:04):
I mean, you know, there was a constant joke because
he's like, gee, I'm gonna you know, be working with
Alex like later this afternoon, Like and I got that
I already. I don't know how many different ways we
can film that, like and you know, cool, we'll do
it in you know, Montana, will do it in China,
will do it in Japan. But even then, at some
point like we're gonna have enough. Um. But yeah, So
it was gradually and it was just it was comfort

(38:25):
and it was trust. And for the ninety minutes that
ends up on the screen, there's probably ninety hours worth
of stuff right that doesn't and um, you know, that's
just the process. And so there's there's definitely a collaborative
process that goes into making these things. And and Tom was,
you know, my partner on that, and I wasn't some
guy who's coming in to make a documentary on him. Um,

(38:46):
so why the delay before we saw the Super Bowl episode? Well,
there was always gonna be a delay, Like, you know,
we're sort of film snobs here, me and my team
and so, um, you know, we we didn't want to
rush anything, but I'm not gonna lie like there was
put a part of me and I'm a fan. I
grew up in Massachusetts and so I've been watching this
and you know, unless you're bullying the Giants, you're gonna

(39:07):
win the super Bowl. That's kind of like as a fan,
what you think, especially when you're hanging around with Tom
all the time and hearing how confident he is. And
so there was definitely a bit of a mental like,
oh okay, like we gotta rethink this. There wasn't like
we were done and then we had to go rethink
the ending. It was. It was more almost like a
mental exercise, like, oh, the tone of this thing changes
and we gotta adjust around that. And I didn't want

(39:31):
to do something twenty four hours because it's like that's predictable.
We know exactly what he's gonna say. And so we
waited five days to like let a little bit of
it digest, but not too much of it um And
so you know, it's just kind of fortunite a partner,
you know, on Facebook that was willing to indulge that
um And that's you know, part of the new medium

(39:51):
that we're a part of. Like you know, we had
episodes that were fourteen minutes, we had episodes there were
twenty two minutes. And it's just kind of like, it
is what it is, and it will be ready when
it's read. And the loss was definitely in some ways
of curved ball for me, um and but we so
we adapted to it. Um. What last thing? Gothin shelbro
joining us director of Tom versus Time, he said he

(40:11):
wants to play until he's forty five. But Giselle obviously
not just in watching it, but listening to her, she'd
like him to quit sooner rather than later. How much
more do you think he can do this? Look, I
think Tom said this sort of bar He's the guy
who said mid forties. I think he's probably on a
season to season you know thing right now in the
off season. It's not Look, it's not physical. He can

(40:32):
do it. His whole life and regiment is built around
being prepared to play football. I think it's mental and
it's emotional, and there's a lot of stuff going on
in his life outside of football that that's the thing
that you got to recalibrate. So I think I think
you will. I don't have any doubt he'll show up,
you know, in September. But I think at this point
you're looking season to season and if you ask me,

(40:54):
I'd say to maybe three. But if we're gonna bet
great of Gotham, Thanks so much for joining us. It's
a fantastic series, and if people haven't watched it, you
can go on to Facebook and watch a Gotham Chopra.
Tom versus time, Thanks so much, all right, pretty much,
it's it's it's really a kind of remarkable look inside.
Is it exactly what his life is? No, but it's

(41:18):
the best, cleanest TV version of something we would never
see otherwise. Lebron James had a remarkable game. Why we
should have seen it? Coming? Next? In The dug Outlip Show?
What Up? The Gotlip Show? Fox Sports Radio M We've

(41:43):
already had Jim Behim, Mom already had Gotham Chopran. What's next?
Tom Crane, Rick Buker. I'm gonna ask Rick Buker about
this one. This is a good one, good topic. Uh.
All Ball podcast will draw up after this show. Of course,
it talks about some of these guys declaring for the

(42:04):
NBA draft. I did think it was interesting that Jim
Beheim said, Hey, look our guys. I think they're all
coming back. I don't. I don't, and and I think
they probably should. Thias Battle is Thias Battle is his
star sophomore h point guard the six six two oh five.
He shoots it, okay, but he's so big. He's just big. Um,

(42:33):
He's so big that he's just too big. And then
ohe Brissette, Oh Shay, oh Shay. Who you know whose
name it really is? Really? O'Shea, right, Ramos you know
this right, it's ice cube, ice cubeame o Sha Brissette
is now the second biggest Oshea ever ever? Not true? Doug,

(42:56):
who's the other one? Oh Jackson Jr? No? No? O
Shaber said, bigger, no way, not since uh, straight out
of Compton. Yeah, which I didn't actually think was particularly good. Yeah,
let me tell you. I didn't. What it was was like, hey,
let's retell the story to make us sound awesome. That's

(43:17):
what that one was. That one was like. That one
felt like to me, people have called you a hater, Doug.
I've always defended you, but I don't know what. I
didn't think it was great. I really didn't. I just
didn't think it was a great movie. But regardless, and
I'm an n w A fan, that's part of the deal.
I was like other millions of suburban white kids buying

(43:38):
n W A A albums back in the day. But
look O Brissette, who's only a freshman from Canada, Like,
you know, this is what guys do. And I didn't say.
I'm not saying anything that Jim Beyheim said was wrong.
Guys go do go to the D League, he told um.
Tyler Ennis. Tyler Ennis is the third point guard for

(44:01):
the Lakers, but the Lakers like him so much that
when Alonzo Ball got hurt and was out for they
brought in more point guards and didn't play. Couldn't play
Tyler inn this, he's just playing out the string there.
He told Tyler in this like you need to stay
in school more. Tyler. It's like, I hear you, but
I'm going to the pros. Got drafted the first round,
and you know, his chances and stayed in the league

(44:21):
are not great, not great, So he's not right. He's right,
but they're still going to go because they won a
couple of games, and people go like, you know, I
like this, Abra said kid, and I would tend to
agree with them. He's a freshman out of Mississaugua, which
is like a suburb of Ontario. The g T a

(44:44):
Greater Toronto Area six eight, which means he's probably in
the sixth seven variety. Can shoot it, some can rebound,
some kind of a hybrid three four. All right, um,
let's get to last night and the speaking of the
NBA last night, Lebron was amazing. It was amazing. But

(45:11):
remind me what was the story yesterday in sports? It
was the Lebron's head coach, Tyron lou was taking a
leave of absence. H Janice Enter Dakompo had thirty seven
eleven rebounds, five assists, and he was still out shown

(45:32):
by Lebron James, who had forty twelve boards, tennis sists
and maybe most importantly, his team got the W. So
what happens what happens the day after? What was your
immediate reaction. Must have been something there between Tyler and
Lebron James. Remember last time we paid attention to Tyron

(45:54):
lou and Lebron James. They were arguing about shot selection.
Do you guys remember that, yelling down the bench to
one another. It's a normal. It's an absolutely positively normal
thing to say, to look at and go like, hey,
there must be kind of something there. It's a lot
like have you ever you had dinner with somebody who's

(46:16):
just gone through a divorce The wife just left him, right?
And sometimes you have dinner with somebody and they're right.
And sometimes you have dinner with somebody and they're a mess.
And the person who's great, You're like, it must have
been some of the other person. They must have been
dragging him down. The person who's a mess, Like, they

(46:37):
must be really kind of dependent on the other person.
Why do you care so much? They weren't even that
nice to you, You guys weren't a great couple. This
is what happens with Lebron. It's the most remarkable thing ever.
Remember last year in the NBA Finals, when they were
down three games to one, Lebron was asked if he

(46:59):
was tired. He said this, I don't know people's you know,
that's the question I've been answered. I'm managing the finals.
M I'm I'm pretty good. I would think, yeah, that's
a it's not me, it's them sort of stuff. Yep,

(47:24):
that's what it is. It's not me, it's them. And
that's what he did last night. He didn't have the
blues because Tyron lou wasn't there as his head coach.
He didn't appear lost. He was empowered by it, which
leads you to think, like, hey, maybe Tyron lewis holding
back a little bit. Maybe Tyron Leui was over coaching

(47:46):
a little bit. Maybe part of that stress was that
he was doing too much instead of just let Lebron
be Lebron, let Lebron coach the team, and so because
of it, he will get no blame when they lose.
All right, Lebron has shown his greatness. No one's arguing

(48:06):
that he's great, talented, incredibly incredibly talented, and efficient, maybe
more efficient now than any point in his career. But
he has this weird thing that no star player has
ever had. When he loses, it's never his fault. They
lost to the Spurs in the finals early on his
career was that oh seven o eight, look at that roster?

(48:31):
What his fault? Right? The only time it was his
fault was against the Dallas Mavericks when people like it
might be his fault ever since then and they lost
to the Spurs. His last year in Miami, that went
his fault. No, they lost, And I think it's actually fair.
The first year with the Calves when when they lost

(48:52):
and have Kevin Love and didn't have Cariman, when his
fault last year when they lost his team wasn't as good,
that was his fault. This year when the trades were made,
was because there's bad chemistry. Remember he had the worst
plus minus in the league. But it wasn't his fault.
It was because they had bad chemistry and the other
guys couldn't play defense. And what we're setting ourselves up

(49:14):
for now? Man, I just pressed a sorry sorry recording
everything I've said, and we found out what last night
re established is if and when it's really more. When
Calves lose this year, I think of his fault. Tyrone
Lou wasn't healthy, Kevin Love is not really a number two.

(49:36):
The roster is not really that good, Like none of
this is ever his fault, and I've never seen anything
like it. I played UM in two different tournaments for UM.
Larry Brown's brother, her Brown is a former NBA head coach,

(49:58):
longtime NBA assistant, and he told me once that, look,
we're your point guard. When somebody makes mistakes, it's not
your fault. That's the time which you say my bad.
You hit somebody right in the hands of the past
and it goes through the hands, it goes out of bounds.
You turn to them and go, my bad. You take
the pressure off everybody else around you, because that's what

(50:20):
true leadership is, the opposite of what Lebron does. Right You. Look,
you watch some of these great coaches and the player
will screw it up and they come over the sideline
the coach and go, hey, that's my fault. I didn't
I clearly didn't communicate to you exactly what I wanted
because I I wrote down on the whiteboard exactly where

(50:42):
you're supposed to be and you didn't go there. But
that's not your fault. That's on me, because either we
didn't work on it, or I wasn't clear enough in
where I exactly I want you. It's not your fault.
That's my fault. It's like a great leadership technique or
great ramas you coach kids. I'd say this to my
son all the time. My son had his breakdown moment
on Saturday where he struck out and he's doing this

(51:05):
thing over stride, like he's taken too long a stride
and swinging a baseball bat. And he's been doing it
now for probably a year. And you know, we've we've
tried different techniques in shortening up his stride, and we
short up a stride, he hits everything. You know, he's
kind of fooling with the bat, so he's late to load,
and then he takes too big a stride, so late

(51:25):
to load makes a swing late. And then when you
take a big stride it it'll create a hole in
your swing and it'll make your swing longer. All of
these things are bad if you're the youngest kid on
your team and you end up playing catchup. Either foul
things off and you're just behind him and you can
never hit a high pitch. And so he was crying
and he said the sweetest thing, to help me, Why

(51:48):
can't you help me? And I was like, well, I'm
gonna show you the video, and I'm gonna help you,
and it's my fault because I didn't work with you enough,
even though we have worked plenty of time on not overstriding.
I'm not fooling with the bat. But if there's a
hole in Lebronze game, because he's sure not the whole
of he's to this point. Before this year, his jump

(52:10):
shot was not consistent, and he's shooting the ball better
from three than he's ever shot at really consistently in
his career. But there's a hole in his greatness and
his leadership. It's that when things go wrong, he doesn't
just go like it's on me, even when everybody knows
it's not on him. That's especially when he should say
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(54:29):
this is Nelly in it Nelliam So. I I got
to hang out with Jeff Gordon last week the race.
Let the race Thursday night we were watching ball games
in Manhattan Beach is before Friday he had to go
be out in Fontana for the race. And I've said
for Jeff Gordon is like a prince among men, like

(54:51):
Jeff Gordon is probably if I had if you had
to name five race car drivers, any car, any type
of race car drivers in your lifetime, he'd be in
the top five, right, I think so recognizable most definitely
the one of the most recognizable name, no question, no question.
He won the what what was the Weinstein Cup four times?

(55:13):
I don't think it's before the Sprint. I don't think
he won the Sprint Cup. I think it was Weinstin
Cup anyway, But like just that he just likes to
hang out and like he's asking me about basketball and
just we talked about families and kids and like just
a very normal human being, which always is I guess
great and normal, but still kind of alarming. Like you expect,

(55:35):
you expect Jeff Gordon to have like personal security and
maybe be a jerk or some but he's not. Kind
of uncomfortable how nice and normal he is anyway. So
I was like, hey, Jeff Gordon, He's like, what's what's
the line from Nelly? Like with the navigation show right
that anyway, he'd wrapped a couple of lines from me.
It's pretty pretty awesome. The self awareness to that is

(55:58):
pretty awesome. So, um, I thought, this is kind of interesting.
Troy Vincent did this one thing. He's outlined the potential
catch rule changes quote. We worked backwards. We looked at

(56:21):
plays and says do we want that to be a catch,
and then we applied that rule slight movement of the ball.
It looks like we'll reverse that going to the ground.
It looks like that's going to be eliminated, and we'll
go back to the old replaced standard of reverse the
call on the field only when it's indisputable. My advice
to the NFL is the old k I as as

(56:47):
rule right, keep it simple. Stupid is we do this?
This is what the n c A is trying to
do with the rule book. I don't pay your players,
don't change your grades, don't pay your players, don't change
the grades, everything else. Because what happens is when you
start to micromanage little things like well you can but this,

(57:10):
but that, but then you get this huge rule book.
That's what happened. Does what happened to the NFL. Frankly,
that's what happened to college basketball, right, Like, look, this
would make it really simple for college basketball. Can't make
the n A term if you have a below a
five record in conference play? How about that one can't

(57:32):
make it to the n c A. I mean like, well,
that's not fair. It wouldn't be fair to teams that
play in these ridiculous megap conferences and you finish eight
and ten and you played a tougher league schedule like okay,
or finished nine or nine. Then we don't have to
judge whether or not you're nine or nine is better
create some sort of barrier. But when you start to

(57:53):
and college basketball did this with the first we had
the RPI, Nobody like it and they do the quadrant
one and quad drin too. My thing is always did
you try and play somebody at a conference? Yes or no?
The answer is yes, okay, then you can proceed on
did you beat the best teams in your league? Were

(58:13):
you better more often than you were good? More often
than you were bad? But I look at this and
I like that's kind of what they're trying to do
working backwards. Do we want that to be a catch? No,
it's not that you want that to be a catch,
it's do we have to how many steps do we
have to go through to determine whether or not not
a catch looks like a catch and smells like a catch, Well,

(58:35):
then damn it, it's a catch. Who cares if the
ball moves when it hits the ground. Is your hand
underneath the ball when it hits the ground? Right? Is
your are both feet down? But the simple advice to
the NFL is keep it simple. Stupid. They want indisputable

(58:58):
visual evidence, and honestly, basketball is in the same place.
How many of these replays do we have with the
n c A tournament like, Look, if it's indisputable, then
it's indisputed. Do do you do what the what is
the definition? Rama's you wanna take a shot? I actually
looked us up during the break. Do you know what? Uh?
The the the definition of indisputables unmatched. Uh, it's unable

(59:29):
to be challenged or denied unmatched sort of. But in
this particular context you're thinking of undis undisputed. This is indisputed, okay, incontrovertible, incontestable, undeniable, irrefutable.
It's like no doubt. Okay, So by definition, if you

(59:52):
have to look at it from like ten different angles,
then there's some sort of doubt. I have a I
have a friend who has this as his belief. He's like, look,
when they go to instant replay, why don't they have
to look at instant replay in real time? Because if
you have to go to slow motion super slurroomol, did

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he touch the ball before the bounce? If he does that,
well that's not the spirit of it. And look, I'm
not a human error guy. I'm not somebody who goes like,
you know what we should do tomorrow. We should bring
human error back into flying planes. Eliminate radar. No, no, no, okay,

(01:00:33):
But it's sports. It's sports. It is not supposed to
be an exact science. Science is supposed to be an
exact science. Sports is not supposed to be an exact science.
Here's a gottly bisom. If it was rocket science, there
would be rocket scientists and the sidelines and rocket scientists

(01:00:55):
in the field. It's not. There are guys that look
and think like me, and most is like, ah, you know,
it's close enough, right. I'm always fascinated by this, like baseball,
and I kind of I kind of come around to
getting why baseball took so long to figure out how

(01:01:17):
to get replay because baseball has so many gray areas,
most importantly the strike zone. What's the strikes zune, It's
kind of the chest to the knees, but really it's
supposed to be the belt to the knees. But how
do you judge the belt to the knees when the
guy is hunched over at the plate? And oh yeah,
by the way, it all depends on on what side

(01:01:39):
of the catcher is the umpire right the catchers. If
he's on the right shoulder, his strike zone is gonna
look different than if he's on the left shoulder of
the catcher. I oh yeah, by the way, the home
blade umpire is also supposed to judge whether or not
you broke the plane with your swing, which you can
only tell from the first and third baseline, even though
you're behind the Catcher's physically impossible. Every umpire has a

(01:02:02):
different strike zone, every player is a different height, every
pitch comes in at a different plane, and yet we're
supposed to know what a strike is and what a
ball is. It's literally impossible, and yet we're supposed to
get it exactly right. And then you know, they've had
the in the neighborhood rule, like a close enough at

(01:02:24):
second base, but now we want it to be exact.
Sports is just not designed for exact. It's not if
you get it wrong, you do a guy. Does a
guy lose the game? You might, but it's not like
it's not like if you're doing surgery, where if you

(01:02:45):
get it wrong, somebody dies, you know, right, You're like, uh,
did you repair the A C L? I got one
of those something there kind of looked like, look about right,

(01:03:05):
did you did you give the right medication to knock
him out for the surgery? Like? I don't know, it
wasn't making any noise. Does it really matter? I gave
him the same thing again the other guy, and it
worked for him. Science is supposed to be exact. Because
it's an exact science. Sports it's close enough, and are

(01:03:27):
in our effort to perfect it, we make it imperfect,
and we make it harder to watch, and we make
it harder to appreciate, and we try and keep getting
better and better, and we're actually devolving instead of evolving.
On the other hand, we can never go back to

(01:03:48):
standard deaf that Adam will not go back to. You
ever tried to watch a game and standard deaf? You're like,
oh my god, how do we survive this? I have
I have no idea, Like literally, You're like, I I've
just aged by twenty years. I can't see the score.
I can't I don't know who the players are. He
won't even worse, go back to like the nineteen eighties

(01:04:10):
and listen to broadcasts. Oh are they terrible? Like man
Dandy Don Meredith was the best color guy ever on
Monday Night football. Go back and watching Danny Don meraethy
like that was truly awful. I gained nothing in sort
of sort of insight. It's not his fault. He was
actually the best of the bunch at the time, when

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What Trey Young leaving school early for the NBA draft.
The Oklahoma freshman guard done after one season in Norman

(01:04:54):
led College Hoops Division one that isn't scoring averaging over
twenty seven points per game. Also averaged eight is this
per contest. Texas freshman Millbamba also leaving school after his
freshman season. He is entering the NBA draft. Rockets guard
Gerald Green dollars by the NBA for shoving Timberwolf center
Gorgy jen during their game on Sunday. Steph Curry's ankle

(01:05:16):
will be reevaluated today. He hopes to return to action
Friday when the Warriors take on Atlanta Dodgers. Third baseman
Justin Turner won't need surgery and his fractured risk but
it is still expected to miss the start of the season.
Some news in the NFL. ESPN says free agent defensive
linman and Dominican Sue will visit with the Raiders on Wednesday.
Reports yesterday yesterday said that he had visits with the Rams.

(01:05:39):
Schedule today, Steelers have sound safety Morgan Burnett and Doug
We talked about the Alliance of American Football League, the
new football league that is going to start in February.
As Bill Pollion is going to oversee it, it's gonna
be a little well different. We will institute some rules
we think that will go a long way or achieving

(01:06:01):
that goal. First of all, no kickoffs will start with
the offensive team getting the ball on the twenty five
yard line. Oh, there's there's more. We're gonna concentrate on
trying to improve the elapsed time of the game and
take out some players that are not as exciting as others.
So replacing the extra point, we've got a two point conversion,

(01:06:22):
No extra points, all two point conversion and Dug Doug, Sorry,
there's there's one more thing. Okay, you have no kickoffs,
you have to solve the problem of the on side kick,
and we think we've solved that problem. We'll give the
scoring team the option of taking the ball on their
thirty five yard line, fourth and tent, do or die.
If you make it, you keep going. If you don't,

(01:06:43):
the other team gets the ball knocking on the door
of the red zone. So you can keep just keep
playing on offense. Imperpetuous will stay that they you get
the option, apparently, so this is make it take it
a kind of yeah. H wait, I'm I'm intrigued, but

(01:07:05):
I think it's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Okay, wait,
so you score a touchdown, you have to go for two. Yeah,
whether you get two or don't get to you have
to kick off. Only you don't have to kick off.
You can either give the other team ball or you
can go for it on your own thirty five. Yeah,
so then you if you didn't get it, then the

(01:07:25):
opposing team would end up getting the ball at the
thirty five yard line in your territory, which really wouldn't
be I mean it wouldn't. Who cares if you're winning
and want to run out the clock. Who cares about
field positions? So you just have to stop them on
that fourth intent play. Okay, yeah, listen, I hear I'd

(01:07:46):
be critical of it, but let me I'll go into
my own minor league basketball history in a second. Anything
else and then else cool, that's about it, Okay. So
I played in the A B A two A two
thous of minor league. This is back when the D
League first started up. There was the D League, there
was a C B A which had been ruined by
Isaiah Thomas was trying to make a comeback. And there's
the A B A two thousand, which probably the best talent.

(01:08:07):
So they had a rule to which any steel in
the backcourt, you've got an extra point on a basket.
So that included if a steel was on a pass
that emanated from the backcourt. So guys in the backcourt,
he throws into the front court and you steal the basketball,
and all of a sudden, now where you get an
extra point in the sequence. And so to me, I

(01:08:31):
would always just like, just go take the layup. You
get three points. But if you shoot at three afterwards,
you get four points. And I believe it was on
any shots, so even if you missed and got an
offensive rebound, it was still an extra point sequence. But
I as much as that's kind of exciting and interesting,

(01:08:51):
it's one of those things that only proves you're kind
of a minor league and you're just trying to draw it.
You're doing the look at me thing. Uh. There have
been called is for minor league football for a long time,
and apparently those calls have been answered. I think the
idea that there's two different minor leagues trying to launch
it similar times. This is this is like splitting votes.

(01:09:15):
This is like splitting votes. You know, you gotta get
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as many at Hooters. This is game time side on
the Doug Gottlieb Show, Buyer, Dan Buyer, what's the game today?

(01:09:41):
The game today is rank rank Um. Okay, Doug, Let's
start out with the n C double A tournament ranked
the lower seeds most likely to win in the sweet sixteen.
So I got one, two, three, Yeah, yep, the top
three most likely to pull it upset coming up Thursday
or Friday. Okay, I'm gonna do um. You only do

(01:10:03):
one to three or three to one. Number one would
be the one that you think is gonna for surely
happen well Texas Tech Perdue. Perdue might or might not
be without Isaac cost Texas Texas only a three seed.
They're super, super athletic, Key and Evans their best player.
He's also a senior UM. Chris Beard, of course, engineered
an upset of Perdue two years ago at Arkansas. A

(01:10:25):
little rock. That's the number one the most likely have happened.
Number two would be k Stayed over Kentucky. K State.
I'm assuming gets Dean Wade back there. All conference power forward. Um,
they have more experience, they have a little bit more scoring.
This is a very young Kentucky team that struggles to
shoot from three. I'll take k State over Kentucky. Number
three would be Syracuse over Duke. And the logic is,

(01:10:46):
I know Syracuse lost to Duke sty four, but second
time facing an A C C foe And the fact
is that Syracuse has found a way to dictate tempo
play slower paced game. Because the slower paced game, you
get a fewer possessions and a greater chance of an upset.
I'll go Syracuse three Overdue. Yesterday, Doug we brought to

(01:11:06):
you a report from Connecticut saying that Dan Hurley was
working on a contract to be the next men's basketball
coach at Yukon. Well now, with no official deal done,
Pitt is in the mix, and there are reports that
the Panthers could be offering more money for her lead
to coach. So what are Dan Hurley's best coaching options
between Pitt Yukon or staying at Rhode Island. Okay, So

(01:11:30):
actually texted with Dan Hurley last night. He did say
that he was mulling over his options. We didn't really
get into it. I gave him kind of my thoughts
on all three jobs. Um, number one I think is
pit one. It's because start up to the bottom. Now
we hit right, I mean, you are at the you
cannot get no matter. They could win one a c

(01:11:51):
C game and they've won you know, uh, I mean
not even a hundred percent. There's no und percent more
than zero. Well, I mean you know they could not
be a worse than Pittsburgh is a proud program. All
three programs. You can recruit New York City, New Jersey
where you used to coach high school basketball's dad's in
Hall of Famer, and the New England PEP schools and
you'll be fine. So the recruiting base doesn't change. Pits

(01:12:14):
the best league, the most desirous for a winner, and
at the very bottom, I'll go Pit one Rhode Island.
Staying at Rhode Island is too because you don't have
to move, you get a little bump your savior. You're
an in inferior league. Number three is Yukon. Now, look,
Yukon is close to the bottom, but they haven't bottomed
out like Pitt. They're still the expectation. Remember Pitt never

(01:12:36):
got to a Final four under Jamie Dixon. North Yukon
won four national titles under Jim Calhoun. And when you
fire a former Jim Calhoun player and Jim Calhoun assistant,
it's hard to get the family to buy back in.
I'll go Pitt, Rhode Island, and Yukon in terms of
attractive jobs. In order for Bob her rank the most

(01:12:56):
dominant athletes of the last twenty years, Doug not all
of that, just the top three of the reason we
bring this up as ESPN the magazine did their own
rankings of the most dominant athletes over the last twenty years.
They had Lebron or excuse me, Tiger Woods number one,
Lebron number two, Peyton Manning third, Jimmy Johnson fourth, and
Roger Federer number five. Tiger Woods is number one. I

(01:13:19):
saw this where Tiger Woods, I think all time all
time has missed like twenty two cuts or something like set. No,
it's more than a thing. Seventeen all time. Yea and
uh Rory McElroy. You No, Jordan's speech has missed like
twenty two right, Like Jordan's feast has been in the

(01:13:41):
in the game for like five years, tagger Woods for
like twenty years. So Tiger Woods is your answer for
most dominant? Okay? Uh number two, I'm gonna go Jimmy
Johnson any one, seventh straight Winston Cups. I know it's
a sprint car. I just like saying the Winston Cup.
And number three I'm gonna go with Lebron James seventh
rate NBA Finals. Finally, Doug ranked the most exciting playoff

(01:14:04):
formats in team sports. Yes, you know everybody always says
nothing tops the Stanley Cup playoffs in the NHL. Yeah,
then why don't more people watch? Um? Top three? I mean,
college basketball is incredibly exciting, NFL playoffs incredibly exciting. Um,

(01:14:29):
I'm gonna go College football Playoff three, NFL two and
College basketball one. This is game time on the Dug
Godli Show. And honestly, the NFL could be one. I
mean it's a one and done scenario too. But some

(01:14:51):
of it is the legend building we do, because the
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Channel A D three six thirty to nine thirty East
Coast time, three to six thirty Pacific Coast time. Chris Carter,
Hall of Fame wide receiver, had this to say about
Super Bowl champion quarterback Nick Foles. I don't believe Philadelphia
believes they can win the Super Bowl with any backup quarterback.
I believe that only a quarterback that is familiar with
what they're doing. They got very, very fortunate last year.

(01:16:17):
I don't believe there is a market for Nick Foles.
I know, I know, Nick, you talk about Sam Bradford.
Sam Bradford was still a more accomplished football player than
Nick Foles. Nick Foles is not a starter in the NFL.
Like we can keep trying to make him one, but
there is no market for Nick Foles. Yeah, he had
a great job. We look how much confidence we had
in Nick Foles. Nick Foles played two good games. He

(01:16:40):
played the NFC Championship game good against Minnesota, and he
played good in the Super Bowl. So now we're getting
ready to trade him to some other team that I
don't see a team out there who wants him. When
you go through free agency and you see what teams
have done, I don't see a chair or a place
that nick Foles that he can be the starter. Uh. Well, look,

(01:17:01):
do I think he's as good as Carson Wentz? No?
Do I think he's a start in the NFL? I do.
Do I think there'll be a market for Nick Foles?
I absolutely do I do. Uh. If there wasn't a
market for Nick Foles, why was there a market for
Teddy Bridgewater? Why I was there a market for Sam Bradford. Wise,
there there's a market for Nick Foles who has been healthy,

(01:17:24):
has performed play well in the playoffs. Do I think
he's as good as the player we saw play against
the Vikings and against the Patriots. No. I think it
was the perfect storm for him. But I also conversely
don't think he's as bad as we saw him with
the Rams. So, um, I don't think you that you're

(01:17:45):
fooling anybody in the NFL. You may make people want
to believe in a slightly inflate your value, but I
think he's a starting quarterback in the National Football League.
I just don't think he's an elite one. And he
looked like an elite one late in the season, Yes,
Ryan Music, isn't The issue with a player like Nick
Foles is that he wins the Super Bowl with a

(01:18:08):
team that was wholly constructed, like with their defense and
their strong running game, their offensive line, and he had
some offensive weapons. And then you look on the other
side of it, where we tend to just give all
the credit to just Tom Brady. So there's like very
few quarterbacks where Tom Brady, Peyton Manning where you really
think that they're the ones who carry the team. And

(01:18:31):
then it's really about do you have a quarterback that's
good enough with a team that's built around it? Like,
I don't think Nick Foles falls into the category of
like a Tom Brady where he can just carry everyone,
but I do think that he could start for a
team and be somewhat effective. Correct. I think Chris is
a little over top of his analysis. Is what we're saying.

(01:18:52):
There's a happy medium there between he stinks and he's
Tom Brady, and that's where Nick Foles falls, say. Richard
Sherman had a press conference earlier today as he was
announced to be a San Francisco for to nine or
take a listen, I didn't feel like I needed an agent.
I felt like I knew contracts well enough, and I
felt like, you know, coming off the Achilles, there's not

(01:19:13):
you know, there's gonna be negotiation points, there's gonna be
given takes on both sides, and I felt comfortable with that.
The thing I'm most frustrated about is that all the
people that were like so high on bashing his deal
refused to bash the agents that that do awful deals
every year. I mean, there are there are agents out
there that are doing three million dollars fully guaranteed deals
that look like fifty million dollar deals. When when the
guy gets cut after two weeks or after a year,

(01:19:35):
and the guy only makes five million dollars of a
fifty million dollar contract, and nobody sits there and bashes
the agent. You don't hear any four yo writing any
articles about it. So I don't understand he's mad that
people are bashing his contract because they're not bashing other
bad contracts. That actually makes it very little sense to me. Look,

(01:19:57):
I know it's a bad deal, but there's other bad
deals out there that nobody says anything about. So if
you're gonna get on to me, you're done. Everybody like, yeah,
I don't really think that that that That didn't really
change my opinion of your deal. It may have gone like,
huh okay, maybe I will, maybe I will. Um, you're right, Um,

(01:20:22):
your deal is bad. And there's about a five other
deals that are bad. My issue is not just the value.
It's that he didn't there was. That's walking into a
store and buying the first car you look at and
negotiating only with one dealership and going like, look, I

(01:20:44):
saw the price, I saw the invoid. What they said
was invoice price, and that's what I'm settling on. And
I got a good deal because I paid a thousand
over invoice. And now people are like, hey, Richard, you
know that invoice price, that's not really the invoice price
because they get rebates back and it's actually the Latin
the previous model year, and so there's even more refunds.

(01:21:07):
You could have saved even more money. And by the way,
you overpaid for this car. You've got a color of
car which is hard on resale. You got this, you
got that, you didn't get the floor mats. I remember I, Um,
my high school girlfriend wanted to buy Carson Accura Integra
great car. Right, Accura Integras. There's still plenty of them
on the road, just running, you know, twenty five years ago,

(01:21:28):
and um, we went into a dealership and we started
to kind of negotiate, and I was like, all right,
we're gonna go now to which they you know, fell
in love with this one white Accura Integra and some
floor mats later, they take took the negotiating out of
my my hands. Like I was like, all right, you
asked me to help you negotiate her and her mom,

(01:21:50):
and you made it powerless because you fell in love
with one car. There's a thousand others in southern California
look exactly the same that literally are the exact same cars.
But the the there is no leverage if you only
meet with one team. And I don't think it's a
great defense for a contract by saying, oh, yeah, you

(01:22:10):
think this contract is bad. There's a bunch of bad contracts.
Huh huh. Yeah. There's lots of bad agents, and now
I'm one of them. At least I save money on
not hiring a bad agent. Instead, I signed a bad
deal for myself. Again, I don't think you're making the point.
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(01:22:55):
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(01:23:18):
tis the season? Tis the season? Two? Higher coaches and
Hope Spring Eternal and like look, the best argument for
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(01:23:40):
the Sweet Sixteen with our next guest as well. By
the way, the All Ball podcasts had to drop after
this show. Our thanks to Jim Beheim, who joined us
on the show earlier. His Syracuse team still playing UH.
And I hate to bring up Syracuse because once upon
a time, our next guest had what I thought was
the best team UH he had had since me, probably
even better than the the Final four team he had

(01:24:01):
with Marquette, and they lost the Syracuse in the Sweet sixteen.
But nonetheless, he's a draft pick after draft pick coach
Dwayne Wade to to a Final four, and now he's
the new head coach of the Georgia Bulldogs. Tom Crean
joins us on Fox Sports Radio. Coach, how are you.
I'm doing great, Doug, Great to talk to you. Okay,
So last year it ends at Indiana, and I know

(01:24:22):
they were there were people immediately who called you, Um,
how close were you to taking a job immediately? Last year?
I really wasn't. I mean, I had a couple of
opportunities to two UH really think about and that I
just it just wasn't right for me, especially right at
the time that had happened and and then I just

(01:24:44):
never really saw something that I said, Okay, this is
this is the one and um, and there weren't that
many because I really didn't have my mind around that.
But but when this opportunity came, and there were a
couple of other people that I talked to. But when
this opportunity came, and I was hoping that it would
come once the decision had been made to make a change,
and I was excited that it did to kind of

(01:25:05):
move fast. What was the what was the thing that
you appreciated the most when you had the summer and
you had no You were not coaching a team, you
were not recruiting, and I know in the fall you
went you saw all these teams, and of course covering
the game for ESPN, you still worked, so it was
like you weren't working. But was there was there something like, Man,
I really like I really like this that I didn't

(01:25:27):
realize I could do if I wasn't coaching. Oh no,
you know, I think what happened to me is it
is it took a little bit. One of the best
things that happened was was getting a chance to get
at it right away. And so you get around basketball
in the sense of like doing the Final Four for ESPN,
and so you're round it that way, and and then

(01:25:48):
it's it's some of the trips that I was able
to make. And I don't know if it was that,
but like I realized early like being angry and and
there was no way I was letting anything take my
spirit for create a doubt. But there's no question that
you get down, you get you get upset with it.
But like I wasn't going to let my life because
I certainly didn't want my family's life to be let

(01:26:09):
that way. And we had so many things going on
with our sun graduating from high school and our daughter
graduating from college, and so I just really got around
the fact quickly that I was going to enjoy this,
not not enjoy I don't think you're enjoying not having
a team when you're coached, But I was gonna enjoy
the learning and being a part of different things. And
it was really really good for me in that sense.
All Right, So, um, all year you're coaching, and you're

(01:26:33):
everyone knows like, well, look if they make a move,
Tom Crean's a hot candidate. And now part of the
thing is you may you may take a job early
and then a better one comes open late. What was
it about Georgia that made you attracted to it? Well,
there are actually even some some calls in the in
the in the fall when things started to break, Okay,
would you be possibly interested in this? And It's like

(01:26:56):
I had no interest in any type of situation like that.
It was more like where can you really go and
build something long term? And I think once, as I've
followed Georgia for a long time, coached against them, we
were number one in the country, we played him in
the park Lash one year we played them, and then
we played George don Rod after and so I've always
looked at it not only Georgia. Basketball in the SEC

(01:27:17):
seemed good, especially with what the SEC has been doing,
but just being in this area, I mean, they're just
seeing the level of players, the level of talent, the
level of caring. I mean, one of the best basketball
environments I've ever been in my life was when we
played Kentucky in this week sixteen and two thousand and twelve,
and we ended up not winning the game, but the
environment leading up to the game, when we got into

(01:27:40):
town and being around town, being around the practices, I
mean being around there the dome for practice and being
in that environment. It was more than just Indiana and
Kentucky fans and Xavier and Baylor. I mean, there was
a real feeling in there. And I just think little
things like that kind of add up over time and
then and they just kind of build your your excitement.
So I have no doubt that this thing can be fantastic.

(01:28:03):
And there's so many things here. I mean, look what
all the other sports are doing, Look what football is
doing just last year, and the way they've built it.
And then you get inside of the facilities in the school,
which we hadn't even seen by the time we decided
when we were offered the job and accepted it, and
then it just takes it to another place when you
start to see it firsthand. So I think it's all here,

(01:28:24):
and that's all I'm excited to be a part of it.
We started our workouts at our first team meeting yesterday
dugget two forty five and we're on the court by
three forty and we just finished our second workout today
because they just got back to the spring breaks, so
like we're right at it, and I think that's what's great.
About it too. How are you a better basketball coach
after the year off. We're gonna find out, I think

(01:28:45):
I I think I definitely found some additions. I definitely
found some things that we can add. I think prices defense,
especially in the three quarter courtway. I think really understanding
what kind of personnelity you have to have to really
and bank and it's not as much about what your
style is, that you have the personnel to play different
styles that you've got to have a change up, whether

(01:29:08):
it's defensively, whether it's a high low game, you've got
to have to change up that you work on that
are really really good, that can get you through tough times, uh,
inside of a game. And then it's just been more
reiterated that the great ones, you know, whether it was
pro football, pro basketball, watching players throughout the year, there

(01:29:30):
is is absolutely no drop off in their competitiveness. And
part of their competitiveness is not just the time spent
on getting better, but the details and the way that
they want it, on the way that they see it,
and just continue to help players to continue to see
the value of not only that determination and competitors without

(01:29:50):
details you have to be to be any good at this,
you know, it's it's interesting you bring up the three
quarter court. Tom Creane joining us is the new head
coach of George. Of course, previously Marquette handed Indiana took
Marquette to the Final four, was number one in the
country to Indiana. Um, you know your your mentor one
of your mentors obviously is Tom Azzo. Who are your
You're exceptionally close with and like, look, it's hard to

(01:30:10):
be critical a guy who's going to be a Hall
of Famer has won a national championship, been to the
seven Final four's. But I do think that that's kind
of the changeup of the one thing they're missing is
as fast as they want to play offensively, the tradition
of playing really hard man to man defense kind of
allows other teams to to slow them down. Is that

(01:30:31):
really the idea of there's like two parts to three
quarter court defense. One, it shortens the length of time
in which you have to play half court defense. And too,
it offers you at least a possibility of speeding the
other team up. Is that fair? I think so, And
I think we when when I look at this team,
because there's there's there's there's players here and they say
there's young talent, there's some older guys. Obviously, losing Yank

(01:30:53):
Mayton is a huge deal because of what he did,
and like watching these young guys and then have a
chance to see them some during this summer, you know,
when I'd be recruiting other people, like there's late here.
So it's not only the change up up slowing, because
I think people thought when the clock changed, there's going
to be a lot more like everybody was just going
to automatically get into the backcourt and try to take

(01:31:13):
time off the shock clock. And there's a place for that,
but there's also a bunch of places that you can
trap and create some real problems for people. And I
think that's what I want to be able to look
out and do. But that you're right, you've got to
be able to You've got to be able to keep
people off balance. And that's one thing in Indiana when
we first started out and we were not very good
at all, had all the walkouts and things like that.

(01:31:35):
We had to find things that could just get us
in the game. And I think so I've always had that.
I don't have any problem with making some changes, you know,
having different defenses, but now you've got to have something
that you don't just come out of the time out
and change it up, like you can come out of
that time out and you can be in that for
a long period of time. And I think more than
ever that's been reiterated to me. And utilize your length,

(01:31:58):
utilize your speed, have people. You know, if there's one
thing that I probably did not put enough value on
because he wanted so much skill in our forward position,
is how good you've got to have people at protecting
the rim. And I had the chance to cover some
tremendous rim protectors, none more so than sag of ball
Connat this year, and I had them a couple of

(01:32:18):
different times. It's just amazing how good he is not
only at the rim and blocking shots and alder and shots,
but how good he is moving his feet. And what
happens is you see all these teams, they continue to
attack the shot blocker off the dribble and and like Baylor,
I had Baylor twice that he had sixteen blocks against Baylor,
and and it wasn't like Baylor was trying to get
the shot block. He was just that good. So really

(01:32:41):
getting down to really making sure that you have the
right personnel, enough of the right personnel, and that never
getting away from the fact you've got to have enough shooters,
because if there's one thing that I saw, there was
not as many shoots as there needs to be. Ye
not listen, I mean this is it's it's really really
interesting what the things you're able to gleam in just
one year of cover in the game as a broadcast

(01:33:01):
for Tom Crean joining us on The Doug Gottlip Show. Fascinating.
You point out shooters, and you point out Connat because
Connati is gonna match up with shooters and Villanova. What
I like about Villanova you mentioned, you know, change up
in different styles. I do feel like they can play
big and they can play small, they can play man,
they can play zone. They can also heat you up
a little bit with their pressure, as opposed to West Virginia,

(01:33:24):
who they kind of play one one way, one way,
one way, one way, and then they want to force
you to Connat defensively. Give me a sense of that
matchup Nova, their experience, their ability to hit you from three,
and their ability to kind of invert their offense using
their bigs outside and posting up their point guard and
Jalen Brunson as opposed to Press Virginia, who we know

(01:33:45):
what we're gonna get and by sheer force of will,
they're gonna try and beat you. What are your thoughts
in that matchup? Well, I think you when you try
to attack West Virginia straight ahead, it allows the length
of the forwards. Guys like West a man those guys,
because they've got I think the teams, the two teams
that have the best length at the wing forward positions

(01:34:07):
all right and can create the most havocate matchup problems
in West Virginia in Conzaga, And I thought that all
year long. And I know the Gonzaga guys might be
a little bit younger, bit they create issues and I
think West Virginia can do that. So if you're not
moving the ball, which Villanova does, Villanova's gonna have to
get them back cuts, and I think they'll get him. Now.
The problem is if Cannat is there, because he can quit,

(01:34:27):
twitch and move so well it change in direction, and
he's he is so good at at at being able
to move his body. So they've got to play not
just from the top, they've got to play off the
slots and wings they've got to get those guys into
some long closeouts. They've got to look for some chances,
especially with Bridges, to get some back cuts. But Spellman

(01:34:48):
is going to have to have a good game. He's
still gonna have to be able to create some foul
situations because you're not driving, cannot pay and get into
the foule line. Just you're not gonna in a game
that way. So they've got to get him lifted. Spellman's
gotta be able to do that. In the same time,
they've got to find a way to get some something
at the rim when he's not there, and I think
their movement would allow them to do that. But at
the same time, they're going to put West Virginia can

(01:35:11):
put so much pressure on your decision making when you
get around half court right before and right after with
the one on one match up with Carter and then
when they bring a trap over there that it can
really it can really disrupt you. And I think they're
going to have to do that, uh to Bruns into
and and and try to slow that offense down once
it gets make it harder for them to get their

(01:35:32):
half court offense going with the drive and kick, and
I think they can do that in that half court area. Uh,
you guys when you're number in the country lost the
Syracuse in the sweet sixteen, and I remember I remember
talking to the serious Accuse coaches I was covering the
game at the time. They're like, look, he's he's such
a smart coach that he's going to spend the week
putting in things and and they're gonna have great they

(01:35:54):
have great looks, but we're gonna adjust at the half
and we'll kind of figure out what they're doing. And
at the end of day, you just kind of got
a run zone offense and and keep attacking us to
beat us. What do you think about Duke and how
they attack Syracuse? As you know, they're kind of similar situation,
except they've seen the zone before earlier this year. The
weekend preparation, do you spend it putting things in? Do

(01:36:17):
you just attack and just play basketball? If you could
go back and you're in that Duke locker room, obviously
different personnel than you had, how would you go about it? Well,
one of the big problems for us, and this is
where I think this helps. Do we small guards? Joaki
Farrell had not seen links like that Jordan Halls had
gotten hurt in the Temple game. He didn't practice live

(01:36:37):
the entire week we shot. He had to take the
quarto zoon shot thirty minutes five minutes before the game.
You know, he had just shot the ball that week.
He's not going to get y being locked. That length
just stifles you. And I think for Duke, because of
the way Trent moves, they're gonna have to get into
the paint. I still think attacking it out of the
middle with a guy that can make plays. And and

(01:37:00):
of right told me something one time that really made
a lot of sense. He told me us after this game.
He said, when the referees decide that Syracuse is not
following in that cell, it is impossible to beat them.
And I would go back to that game, and we
went back there. There were definitely some situations. I'm not
saying we have to beat him that night, but there
were definitely some situations where we should have been getting
to the foulinge. So how the game is called in

(01:37:20):
the middle of the paint is going to be crucial
inside of that game. But you've got to screen the
wings some You've got to be able to throw it
over the top, but you've got to be able to
make plays from the middle if things break down. And
I know that they don't believe the teams can beat
you with the fill line jump shot. And that's where
driving and being able to play one on one down

(01:37:42):
the lane creates a little bit of an issue. But
I still think screen the top and and and really
try to I would hit the wing as much as thought.
If we had to do over again, we would come
off the ball screen on the top. Don't even try
to score off that ball screen. Sort right away to
the wing. You have a corner load to try to
put a triangle on that week's side and just go

(01:38:03):
inside and see what happens because they closed so quick,
back down to the corner. And again you get in
that game and your team is just baffled by how
long they are. Now Duke will have the advantage because
they played them, so they know that there's gotta have
a big game inside of that game too. I think
he's got to make you know, five threes four three,
something like that, because that gives him another added bonus there, right,

(01:38:23):
and and the difference in this Serocuse team and when
you played they don't scored as well as the team
that that you played against. So they can't they can't
run a Michael Carter Williams had an unbelievable game, get
the best game is college career that you know. We
just couldn't guard him as well. Yeah, he made he
made Mad's money makes money that night. Listen. I know
it's a I know. Look it said, there's a lot
of players in Georgia, but it's it's different than Indiana

(01:38:45):
in terms of people want to see it before they
really ready to buy it. I wish you nothing but success.
Thanks so much for joining us on on Fox Sports
Radio any time, Doug, I really appreciate it. All right,
that's Tom Crane who had a great year's broadcaster, now
back in it as a head coach with Dogs coach
of course, remember Cody Zeller, Victor Oladipo, Noah von de
lay Las, Heyward At A Dwyane Wade At at Marquette,

(01:39:10):
all part of the nine draft picks that that he
coached to both Marquette and Indiana nine and seven and
was number one in the country in two thousand and thirteen.
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(01:40:14):
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(01:40:35):
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(01:40:58):
won't need surgery on his friend should Risp, but still
expected to miss the start of the season. College Tubes
Oklahoma guard Trey Young leaving school for the NBA Draft
as his Texas freshman center Mo Bomba and Rockets guard
Gerald Green find twenty five grand by the NBA for
shoving timber Wolf Sutner Gorgy Jang in their game on Sunday.
Doug mm hmmm, uh yeah, that was an interesting game,

(01:41:22):
right because Georgy Jang end up shoving him right into
the crowd. The guy spilled a beer and that that's
just unacceptable, completely unacceptable. Uh. He does have that new
podcast we described. He also has an outstanding radio show
on Sirius x M. I'm Gonna Go eighty four eighty two.
I knew it was one channel of one channel off

(01:41:44):
of ours. He's Rick Buker, Buke, Trey Young, jimmur for debt?
Is he Jimmer for debt? Or is he Steph Curry? Oh?
Does it have to be one or the other. He's
probably closer to Jimmer for that. Then he used Kurty
like Kenni Green here, here's here's what I said on

(01:42:05):
my on my podcast. I'll say it. I said it
earlier on this show. Um, he's going to get a
GM fire. He's going to get a GM fire and
I very very possible. Yeah, And I like him, and
I really I like his dad, and I like that
his dad has pretty much laid low and that they're
making this, they're making this decision knowing full well that

(01:42:26):
that he's probably not ready, but they're like, look, gonna
be a lottery pick. I don't know how you turned
that down. And I was like, there's so there's some
holes there that you gotta because the way in which
he plays, demands he has the basketball and that that
the holes will get exposed more readily well. And as
one scout pointed out to me, you know, Lon Krueger
has a knack of doing this. He did it with

(01:42:48):
Buddy Heal and we had a lot of the same
h hoopla around Buddy when he came out and what
he was going to be as a scoring point guard,
and that hasn't really lived up the expectation. He's still
with Sacramental but or he's in Sacramento now rather. But
I was hearing that they were at the beginning of
the year. I was hearing that they were looking, uh

(01:43:09):
to move him. So it's yeah, this is the the
difficulty when Trey comes out and the and the Steph
comparison start, and then I hear a reference to Alan Iverson,
comparisons to Allen Iverson, and I'm like, let's just stop.
I mean, yes, those are undersized guys, Butson was an

(01:43:30):
absolute freak, was an absolute freak athlete, and and Steph
is in his way too. And I think that the
reason people make the comparison is because what Steph has
in an athlete is not readily apparent it's not the
same as Iverson, but Steph's ability to move laterally and
then get off a shot in you know, a second

(01:43:52):
and and consistently hit that accurately, and he's his his
decision making is evolved. His defense has evolved, like Trey Young.
I mean, the scouts that I talked to said, he's
a backup guard and his defense is atrocious, and so
he's gonna have to find a way. And we saw
him wear down over the course of this year with

(01:44:13):
the attention that he received, and and that was not
being asked to play eighty two games or play at
both ends of the floor. It's but I don't I
don't want to bury the kid. But those that are
making the comparisons to staff and asking is he gonna
be a top five pick, you're burying him because you
are placing him in a stratosphere that that he is

(01:44:36):
simply not prepared to meet at this point, and you're
doing him a disservice because uh, it's it's a little
bit like Alonso comparisons. And we took what Alonso has
done this year and and and took away all of
the He's gonna lead him to the playoffs. And he's
gonna have his jersey retired, and he's gonna be the
rookie of the year. You take all that away, and
we look at Alonzo and we'd say not not not

(01:44:58):
a bad rookie year. Not a bad rookie year. You know,
he's got promise. I think you could be pretty good.
But because the expectations were set so high, we're looking
at it and going, well, you ain't that well, We're
we're we are about it appears that some people are
trying to do the same thing to Trey Young, and
damn it, Doug, I just will not have it. Great

(01:45:19):
stuff from Rick Puker from Bleacher Report. He joins us
in the Doug Gotlip Show Fox Sports Radio. Let's get
to Lebron. He was incredible last night against Janice. They
end up beating the Bucks, and they did so without
tylu Um. I kind of feel like this this point,
some of the finger at Tyler, like Tyron lou is

(01:45:40):
in fact not feeling well. He has had trouble sleeping.
There is this is stress induced, and none of it
there isn't necessarily a correlation, but it's impossible not to
mentally connect the two. Like all of a sudden Tyron
Lou's not there and Lebron plays free and easy and amazing. Um,
isn't kind of what happens with Lebron? By the way,

(01:46:03):
wasn't that? That wasn't that was my faux angry man?
How did that play? Was that? That was good? It
was good? It was it was it was a little hot, taky,
was kind of good. Yeah, sure, so okay, um I
I this is what I think that Ti having to
step aside Gues is that it puts the onus on Lebron,
which we saw last night. I don't necessarily look at
it as Tie holding Lebron back as much as it

(01:46:28):
puts the responsibility on him and only him. And now
I just questioned my my, my question is can he
sustained this? Because I felt this from the time that
they made the trade, the big trade, the big changeover
at the trade deadline, which is looking at this team,
this is Lebron keeps saying, you know, I have nothing
left to prove. This is actually his opportunity because he

(01:46:52):
has a chance to prove that I can be Mr. Everything,
I can be the go to guy down the stretch
because I'm not buying that Kevin law. You know, just
because they didn't trade for anybody that's a number two,
they can fill the play the whole that Tyree Irving
left and Isaiah Thomas clearly was not. Uh, it's by
default everybody goes, oh, women, Love wasn't here. Uh, he

(01:47:14):
could be the number two. And I'm like, what are
you trying to sell me on? You're trying to sell
me on something that Kevin Love has never been. Lebron
is gonna have to be that guy. And you know,
there are times where he's shown us that he can
be that guy, but he's gonna have to consistently be
that guy from here on out, whether Ty is there
or not. I just think Tie not being there and

(01:47:35):
kind of the innuendo of you know, you know the
reason Tie is sick. You know, the reason Ty is
drained is because he's coaching Labron and all that comes
with that. And so now it's hey, Lebron, that guy's
still he's on the sideline. You guys haven't always seen

(01:47:56):
eye to eye. There's nobody left here. This thing's gonna
get done is on you. That's the voice of Rick
Buker joining us Rich for Bleacher Report has his own
radio show on Sirius XM, and of course has his
new podcast with Ryan Hollins called The Swirrel. Okay so um,
Tyron Lou being sick, the Calves being different, all the

(01:48:18):
onus being on Lebron. Are we any further declarity as
to what's next for Lebron James. Oh, it hasn't been. Look.
I go back to the beginning of the year, most
people thought that the consensus was that that he was
out of there. I don't have any reason to believe

(01:48:42):
that he's not going to explore every option and that
ultimately he's going to find a better one that's out there,
which one that is, Honestly, I can't tell you. I
still think that l A, because of what he wants
to do post post career, makes the most sense. And
you know the thing that we haven't really revisited, which

(01:49:03):
is and we do have new ownership and own in
in uh in Houston. I would imagine that any owner
interested in getting Lebron Mike Dangle dangled this out there
is he's He's made it clear he wants to be
he wants to be an owner, he wants the The
next step for him is to own a team or

(01:49:24):
own part of a team, and I heard very early
on that the Lakers were party to that. Certainly they
were able to do that for Magic. I have no
doubt that Magic in some conversation could let that kind
of float, whether it's to Rich Paul or to somebody else.
And so I think that that's going to have a
big influence to who's willing to give up a piece

(01:49:44):
of the team, whether it's now or later, uh, to
to fulfill that dream of Lebron's. That's going to be
a factor and in ultimately where he goes. And I
just I can't imagine unless unless, and I don't see
how this would work. You know. There's also the question
of Dan Gilbert wanted to get out of Cleveland and Detroit.

(01:50:05):
He asked the Pistons because he's from Detroit. He wants
to get up. It's a declining asset if Lebron leaves.
Is there any way that a wink wink, this can
be your team deal can be consummated? You know, I mean,
I would say, yeah, anything is possible. My only question
is with Dan and Lebron, I mean that that relationship
just isn't one of the reasons why everybody's is convinced

(01:50:27):
that he's not going to be there the long term.
Is because that from their political standpoint to you know,
hard feelings that have never quite been gotten over. Uh,
they that relationship has never been great, and so the
idea that they could come to terms on that, I
suppose maybe they're both businessmen, but it's considering their distrust

(01:50:53):
of each other or dislike for each other. It's also
that that that could be a problem. Rick Pucker joining
us Pleach Your Report XM Serious Channel eight two, as
well as his podcast This World, joining us Doug Gotlie Show,
Fox Sports Radio. How concerned are the Warriors about their health? Uh?

(01:51:14):
You know, I I when I last saw them last
week on their last homestand I wasn't getting a sense
of concern um. And that's kind of from the individual players.
Had a long talk with Bob Myers, the GM, and
he said, you know, whatever concerned there is on the outside,
it's different in the locker room because the players have

(01:51:36):
a have a better sense of where they are and
what they're capable of. We look at it from the
outside and we're not It's I'm good. I'm sure Doug
you've you've had this feeling you're you're in a game
and you're you're down by seven, but you're like, we're
just not playing well. We know, we know, we know
what we have to do, we know we can win this,
and sometimes you're down by seven and you're like, damn,

(01:51:56):
this is not a place we want to be because
I don't know how we make up this deficit. The
belief is among the brain trust with the Warriors that
the players in the locker room know what they need
to do, they know what they're capable of. They know
they just get healthy that they'll they'll be fine. But
there's whether it's the having the number one seed home

(01:52:17):
court advantage, like there's none of that, there's none of
that along Now, that was last week, and I'm just
going on. Seeing Draymond Green and his response and talking
about the the injury last night, Draymond Green looked to
me like someone who is reflective and troubled, more so

(01:52:39):
than I've ever seen him in In discussing this injury,
he was saying, I don't think it's that bad and
I don't think it's much whatever. His facial expression, his tone,
everything else, said to me, damn this, why does this
keep happening like and I can't help but think that
you make three can executive runs the NBA Finals. Everybody

(01:53:02):
other than Lebron James that physically takes a toll, and
maybe that's what we're seeing here. I will say this,
the kind of injuries that they are, particularly with Steph
and Clay, are what troubled me the most. Katie's ribs
troubled me the least because that's not directly connected. Assuming
he's gonna be okay and he's not in pain and

(01:53:23):
he can breathe, he's gonna be okay. The ankle for Steph,
the shooting thumb for Clay, those directly relate to their
ability to do what they do best. And that's why
those concerned me. You buying Houston, not buying just buy
I still I would still buy Okay, see before I
buy Houston by Oklahoma City? Yes, Wow, that that one

(01:53:47):
I had as a playoff team. Um, does Kauai play
this year? M M. That's a great question. I'm going
to do this for a while. I'm gonna say I
am going to say that he is, that he will
play before the end of the season, whether he plays,

(01:54:10):
and then shuts it down again, I don't know, but
I think I do think that we'll see him play.
And I one part of that story, the narrative of
that somehow the Spurs mishandled Kauai or lost his trust
or any of that. If you go and look at
the history of Kawuhi Leonard and his injuries, this he

(01:54:32):
has an injury and somehow it ends up it's kind
of a mysterious injury, and it ends up taking a
lot longer for him to get back than originally diagnosed.
Is not Uh, this is not the first time. It's
not the exception. You can go back and he's had
these injuries that were kind of hard to define and
it was ten to fourteen days and next thing you know,

(01:54:54):
he's out a month. And uh and and so I
take exception to this. I dea that the Spurs somehow
created this situation. I think some of it, and I don't.
I don't even I don't even know to the level
that there's a there is a disconnect between the two. Um,
I'm not convinced that the relationship, based on the conversations

(01:55:17):
I've had, I'm not convinced that the relationship is as
bad as people have made it out to be. I
think that it's just it's really difficult to to to
read Kauai Leonard, and I think he's one of those
guys that, in spite of the tough, silent image that
he has, he's one of those guys that he has

(01:55:39):
to feel close to a right for him to play,
and if he doesn't, he's just he doesn't think he
can be the guy that he's supposed to be, and
he's not gonna play. Great stuff from Rick Puker. Check
out his radio show on Serious x m AD to
check out his podcast, read his working Bleacher report. Fuke
can't tell you how much I appreciate it. Thank you
so much. I angry man signing off All right, he was.

(01:56:01):
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All Ball podcasts going. I think the boys are editing that.

(01:56:46):
If you guys are fully edited, have you sent it
over to be edited? Like, where are we with that?
It has been sent, Doug, It's been sent good, it's
been sent to production, all right, So it's in the can.
Not that that can. I was just in the can.
It's the other can can. Enough of that. Hooters and

(01:57:06):
trying the new smoked wings, the whole new way to
crave wings with all the taste, half the calories. You
can eat twice as many at Hooters. Buyer Dan By heyright,
what's up? Not much? He's hanging out. Yeah, I just
got some got some sports stories for it. You want
to hear what's happening with Steph Curry. I got some

(01:57:28):
info on him. Warriors announcing that he was re evaluated
today with that sprained ankle and is making good progress
and is cleared to practice with the team and on
schedule to return later this week, so Steph Curry could
be back with the Warriors very soon. There's really no update,
just that he's on track. We knew he was gonna
be reevaluated today. We'll get to some other NBA stuff

(01:57:50):
later on. You started off the show with this why
not ended Oklahoma guard Trey Young leaving school following his
freshman season and entering the NBA Draft as his Texas
freshman center Mo Bomba. Can be really hard to make
a call on Trey Young. I do think he'll go
in the lottery. I don't think he'll go ahead of
Colin Sexton. And I think the GM the drafts are
probably gonna get fired because you're gonna be forced to
play him, and I just don't think he's ready just

(01:58:13):
and I think there's some holes to what he does.
Everybody wants him to be Steff Curry because everybody loves
step Curry, and everyone missed on Steff Curse. Somebody missed
on Stef Curry. But just because you missed on bitcoin
doesn't mean you lock onto the next cryptocurrency. The West
Virginia Mountaineers are in the Sweet sixteen. They will face
Villanova coming up on Friday, but It's been an interesting
week already. The Mountaineers had to leave for Boston today

(01:58:36):
because of the northeaster that's hitting the East coast. What's
it like, the fourth one this winter, the the storm,
big one in Connecticut's gonna go eight to ten. Uh
some some people say up to twelve, some people stay
down to five. I know it's a you know, the
weather guys go crazy over but big storm. Yeah, the
storm was one of the reasons that they've had a
short week. The other ones. Remember they played Sunday night
in San Diego in the latest game of the day,

(01:58:59):
so they didn't get back to Morgantown until yesterday. I
spent about twenty four hours and now I've had to
leave for Boston to get into town to face the Wildcats. Yeah. Look,
we we did this when we were in Buffalo and
in the Syracuse. We just didn't go home. There's like,
it doesn't make any sense to go back and then
back to here. Obviously wasn't traveling across the country. Um
that that attacks you. And the way in which they play.
They play a lot of guys, but they play really

(01:59:20):
really hard. Be interesting to see how they handle it
against Villanova. Tracy McGrady will be in shrine tonight in
the Orlando Magic Hall of Fame. How he's in the
regular basketball Hall of Fame already. I got somebody explained
to me what I missed in Tracy mcgrady's career where
he couldn't get out of the first round of the playoffs,
that he's a Basketball Hall of Famer. He's a really
good player, scored a lot of points. He becomes the

(01:59:42):
fourth player and team history to be put into the
team's Hall of Fame. Yeah, go ahead, Shack, that's one
penny hardaway, hold on, hold on, hold on? Uh, Scott Skiles,
no joke, Okay, that was kind of a joke. Um,

(02:00:03):
I was in Orlando, Nick Anderson, Dennis Scott. Uh, shoot,
there's gonna be somebody else I'm missing here yet. No, correct,
But you were really warm on some of your guesses,
like I wasn't hot, Yeah, like you were hots. It's
one of the two, Nick Anderson or Dennis Scott, Dennis Scott.
It's Nick Anderson even free, Yes, Nick Anderson, the other

(02:00:27):
Orlando Magic player. They also have what Pat Williams is
in there, but yes, because he drafted Shack. Good call.
Pat Former Penn State running back Sae Kwon Barkley did
not participate in the Penn State Pro Day today. Barkley
was planning on working out, but then said because there
were no NFL running back coaches in attendance, he didn't

(02:00:49):
work out. As for those combined numbers many were drooling over,
his college head coach, James Franklin said today that those
numbers were quote very average end quote compared to what
he did at times and happy Valley. Okay, yeah, no
surprise that he didn't really like pro days are whatever? Yeah, seriously.

(02:01:10):
The agent for Patriots said that Rob Gronkowski says his
clients is still considering retirement. Drew Rosenhouse said that Gronk
is still weighing his options and even he is waiting
to hear the official word from the tight end. This
is just negotiating. You know. They reworked his deal to
be an incentivelating deal, laden deal last year. And this
is this is Drew rosenhuis Rob Gronkowski going like, luckily,

(02:01:33):
we we could do the M we could do the UF,
the w W E thing. We want to come back.
Give us some more, give us some more guaranteed money.
That's all this is former NFL i'man Jonathan Martin is
facing multiple felonies, including making criminal threats in connection with
his threatening Instagram post that he made last month. So
those charges just happening to day, Doug, from what happened
in February. Is he getting mental health help? That's the

(02:01:56):
big thing, Like you have to have something off to
do what he did and shut down Harvard Westlake, a
prestigious high school here in the valley, one in which
he attended and one that he scared the Bejesus out
of every parent and child that attends because of that post.
Is he getting mental healthcarett? Mental health help is the
big question. And finally, Doug, I'm gonna defer to our
Dodger insider John Ramos on this news that Justin Turner

(02:02:19):
won't need surgery on its fractured wrist, but the Dodgers
third basement still expected to miss the start of the season. Hyeah.
I think Dodgers have a lot of a lot of
other people to fill in. I think they're gonna hurt
him a little bit, but over I think they'll be fine.
Thanks you. It was very It was great. Great. Really

(02:02:40):
get out there wanting more. You know it did? I
think the Dodgers are good. Yeah, thanks John, thank you do.
He's not the best young colored man in the game
for nothing. Somewhere I'm kind of excited about baseball this year. Dodgers,

(02:03:00):
the Angels, the Yankees and all the home runs, somebody
to root against. It's gonna be fun, should be really,
really fun. All ball podcasts will drop. I think sometime
this evening we'll put it out all over social media.
The Jim beheim Uh interview I thought was was great.
He was, he was fantastic. Karen Butler will join us
in studio tomorrow. We'll ask him who the next head

(02:03:22):
coach Ukon should be. Find out in the Doug Gotlip Show.

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