LeVeon Bell vs. Contracts

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Boom Up America. Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio, coming
to you from beautiful sunny southern California, where I do
believe I do believe that most of the sports world
will We'll head to in the coming days with the
SPS right around the corner. Major League Baseball All Star

(00:23):
Game of course starters announced earlier today. We have a
World Cup champion. It is France and the Friends have
been the John Calipari of of soccer with all the
recruiting they've been doing with so many foreign born players
that have that have immigrated to France. Will get to
that upcoming soccer guy, quick note to soccer guy. Time

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for you guys to go away for about three and
a half more years. Soccer guy, listen to me, Soccer guy.
You can argue with me all you want about our
best and our brightest not playing soccer. But you're wrong. Okay,
you're just wrong. The best athletes in our country don't
play soccer, and if they did, we would dominate soccer.

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It's just cheer numbers, that's it. The Croatian thing was
an amazing series of upsets. They have a very good
team and look, I don't know enough about super high
level soccer to be honest, whether that that was a
handball that led to the p K which allowed France
to take a to one lead, I don't. I'm not

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gonna sit here and argue back and forth about about
the nuance of when you call a handball and when
you don't call a handball. What I will tell you
is Embabe kid is great, a spectacular star who shined
the brightest here late in the World Cup. He's nineteen
years old. He's the first teenager to score in a

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World Cup finals since play by the way, we call
him pale here because we mispronounced everything. You know why,
because we're America kinds, because we're Americans. Are best athletes
don't play soccer, and if they did, we would kick
everybody's ass. You can argue with me all you want.
But if if Tyreek Hill, Tyreek Hill played soccer from

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a young age, he would be better than Himboby or
as good. No, he wouldn't. There's skill, there's fine tuning,
there's belief in right. Because our best athletes, our best
athletes don't have great spatial awareness like a like a
great point Kyrie Irving, a Russell Russell Westbrook wouldn't be

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a great soccer player, seeing as he's a freak athlete. Vertically,
he's six ft two seeks bigger, he's stronger, he's great. Latterly,
he's incredibly competitive and occasionally does see the court. No,
he wouldn't. He's smart enough to get in U c
l A. But he's not smart enough to play soccer.
Soccer guys are so smart they're absolute imbeciles and they
make everybody upset. You don't ever talk about our sport.

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Then we do and you're like, I don't like how
you talking about our sport because you don't know enough
about our sport. That because nobody truly cares about your
sport except for during the World Cup, to which we
really care. And now we're like, cool, we'll care. Hopefully
in four years will be in the damn thing. And
if we can't make it when they expand the field,
we should stop playing soccer. I mean, really, that's what happened,

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right Italy and America. Don't get into like, man, we
gotta open the field up. That's what would happen. If
you know, I'm We're not Caroline or Duke or something.
But that's what would happen in the That's what happen
the n s A tournament. That's why they expanded that
bad boy soccer guy soccer guys mad because I have
stated repeatedly that the day in which our best and

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brightest have access to and start playing soccer at a
young age, and it's not a white, suburban rich kids sport,
then we will dominate internationally. You know why, because we
dominate everything else internationally. That our best and brightest play period,
because we have the most diverse and greatest depth of

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athletes anywhere in the world. And when it's a clean
sport and we competed it, we win it. You could
argue with me, but all I have is factual data
to support it. You know no nef about socker. You're right,
they don't. But I know enough about athletics to know
that in of the high schools in America, the elite

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level athletes play football and basketball. And then it means
one of the things that one of the reasons that
athletes like Mike Trout and Bryce Harper that would be
good football players, decent solid basketball player Aaron Judge stick
out so much on a on a baseball field. Why
because the best athletes don't play baseball anymore, and when

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they do, they're awesome. So soccer, guy, we loved your sport.
France was awesome. It was really cool. It was weird
to see Russia and people cheering for Russia. That whole
thing was odd. It was like the way to my
cheering for Russia because they're the underdog. Congrats. Time for
you to go back and take a nap and start
telling me about you can tweet away on Saturdays about

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international soccer and about the MLS. All right, now, let's
get to foot ball where Levian Bell has fifty three minutes.
Fifty three minutes to sign on the line that is dotted.
This from Jason lock Camphor, who joins this weekly during

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the NFL season for CB from CBS Sports. The Steelers
are making every effort to sign Levy on Bell and
remain willing to pay him more than any running back
has made in the league for quite some time. But
then again, as noted, that's the same mindset they had
a year ago when the pro bowler backed out just
before the deadline and opted not to sign the contract.

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Talks of remain amicable and productive, and there is some
hope that a deal get done by four o'clock Eastern
time again, that is fifty two minutes and change from
right now, Levian Bell can sign a franchise tag, or
he can sign a long term deal. Levan is twenty
six years old. He's been remarkably productive, and he has

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also miss gains because the suspension, miss gains because of injury,
so he has he has two choices. His first choice
is to sign the franchise tag, which would be at
about eleven point eight million dollars, or to cern sign
a long term contract reportedly turned out a five year

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deal that averaged twelve million dollars a season, with thirty
million dollars guaranteed over the first two years. Like Levian
Bell wants us to feel bad for him, he wants
to tell us that he's worth more than running backs
and make because he's more than a running back. He
catches the ball, he blocks, he runs the football. But
he's arguing against the salary structures of every running back

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in the National Football League. It's a position that has
been devalued. Even if he's more valuable with the Steelers,
then other running backs would be elsewhere. This is the
Jimmy Graham argument. And it didn't work with Jimmy Graham,
and it ain't gonna work with Levian Bell. So you
can sit here and tell me, no, I should get more.
I should get more. I should get more. But the

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market sets the number, and the market that says you're
not worth sixteen or seventeen million dollars, nobody's making that.
Even if you take out the fact that he's miss
games because of injury, playoff games because of injury. Even
if you make it take out the fact that he's
missed games because of suspension. You take those two things out,

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that's fine. You can take him out and just go, hey,
if he was perfectly healthy at twenty six years old,
is he worth more than the going rate for running backs?
And the answer is no. The answer is no. That
though there are some tremendous running backs like like Todd
Gurley and maybe Sae Kwon Barkley that have been taken
in the first round, there's an equal number of guys

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have been taken in rounds three, four, five. There's just
as many teams that are successful in running back by
committee as there are running back uh with it with
a lead dog running back a matter of fact, more
so with a running back by committee. Go back and
look Philadelphia Eagles. They have a star making twelve thirteen
million dollars a year running back. They do not, not

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that I'm aware of the New England Patriots. How often
do they have to be successful without a star running back?
Matter of fact, Dean Lewis has gone from last year.
They turn, they cycle those things over. You know why,
because they know you age, you go stale and you
get expensive, so you get gone. So the Steelers are

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still truthfully willing to commit to a longer term at
more money than they want to, and Levan's not. And
we're supposed to feel bad about this. We're supposed to
be like, this is just another case of man keeping
the running back down. But the truth is, like, you're
you're an asset that does not have the value you
used to have in this league, even if you're super

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valuable to the Pittsburgh Steelers. I could make the argument
that Pittsburgh uses him more than others would even know
how to use it, that they've they found a way
in which they can use him in a variety of ways.
And there's some talk Adam Schefter said Earler today on
serious uh NFL Radio that he might set out half

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the season. Take a listen to what Schefter had to
say earlier today. I think if they don't get a
deal done, the most important thing for Levan Bill is
to preserve his health and make sure he's healthy heading
into the two thousand nineteen free agent market. I think
it's possible that Levan Bill skipps the first half of
the year. I'm not telling he'll do that, but I
can tell you this, he'll he'll certainly think about it.

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Is big goal this year is honestly to get to
the two thousand my team freezer market healthy. It's not
to get four hundred, just get more tread on, attire,
wear down, risk injury before you get your big paid day.
It's just not yeah, that is um that. That's an
agent talking through schefter. That's all that is. If you

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think it increases your value to be a year older
at running back, to play half of a season plus
you'll play playoffs. Likely with the Pittsburgh Steelers're still gonna
take a beating. And oh yeah, by the way, you
miss half the season, miss training camp, you're likely to
have it. You're more likely to have a soft tissue injury.
Not wishing any injury on anybody, but the number stand up.

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The holding out work for Emmett Smith. He famously held
out one year and it was a disaster without them,
And it may work for Levy on Bell. But if
you have a good contract in front of you, and
you've already been franchise tagged last year to which you've
earned upwards of eleven million dollars guarantee, like at some

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point the game of Chicken is up and you just
got to sign the deal. NFL players have argued for
I don't know how many years about needing guaranteed contracts.
It's such a red herring. This is a guaranteed contract
that he's been offered thirty million dollars in guarantee. Sure
it says five years. You don't want five years. You say,

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I just want to sign for two plus years or whatever.
I'm sure that would be adjusted. You probably wouldn't get
thirty guaranteed because they wouldn't have you under contract for
five years afterwards. But you still get a completely guaranteed contract.
But guys don't want that at at or above market value.
The Steelers are offering a fair deal and if not,

(11:43):
sign the franchise tag and hope somebody else offers you
a more fair deal next year. But not playing frankly
as silly and goes opposite to what, uh what anyone
would believe would drive up your price in the coming
off season next year. Stug gotlip show Fox Sports Radio
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(12:05):
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(12:26):
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my guy. Rick Buker, senior writer Bleacher Report covering the NBA,
also hosted his own show on Serious Sex m NBA Radio.
He joins us here in the Doug Gotlips Show, Fox
Sports Radio. And he played soccer in college. Huh uh,
because I've long contended that. Um, Look, I know there
are other issues with our soccer program, but I watched

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the level of athleticism on some of these teams, and
I watch NFL football, college football, college basketball, and I'm
just a normal human being that realizes that a lot
of there's either not access, too expensive, or just not
the desire to play at a young age. Um, in
in diverse parts of our country, are our best athletes

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are not playing soccer? Is is that too? Is that
too outsider ish to to point to the one of
the reasons we're not as competitive as that we should
be in soccer. No, not at all, And it's I
mean it's not the only reason, but it certainly is
a big reason. I mean, just when you watch him
at that nineteen you know, I mean, how many other

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guys have we seen other sports uh in in in
the US who have that speed and he really that's
the difference. I Mean, he's got some great moves, but
more than anything, he just turns a corner and and
he creates angles that that uh that give him a
huge advantage, uh, simply because of of how athletic he is.

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So yeah, there's there's some things about our program and
the way we teach the game. I think the level
of creativity is not there. We've We've become very systematic,
uh in the way we teach the game, and I
think there has to be that that playground element. This
is the one time that I will vouch for a
AU basketball is that it does allow a certain degree

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of or maybe too much a creativity, And we don't
really have that uh in soccer in this country at
the at the highest level. So um. But yeah, certainly
for the athleticism that we have in this country and
the resources that we have in this country, Uh, there
no reason that that we shouldn't be a a power

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on the world stage. All right, let's look, that's that's
that's all the soccer talk we're gonna have for the
next four years. Rick Bucker joining us in the Doug
Gottlieb show. Lebron shows up in Vegas wearing some Lakers shorts,
tapping up the Lakers, hugging everybody. It it felt real
to me. It felt like, all right, this is all right,
he's really it's really and and my and look, I

(15:27):
do do I think sometimes things are fake? Sure? I
just kind of think this is a hey man, we're
a team. Other guys have shown up to watch their teams.
This is me showing up to watch my team. I
thought there was I bought what he was selling yesterday?
Did you Uh sure? I thought it was, as with

(15:47):
most things with Lebron, a little over the top. Did
he have to wear Lakers shorts? Did he have to
wear Lakers shorts with Lakers emblazoned across the crotch? I
thought that that. Uh. I couldn't help but feel like
that was some kind of a message to Dan Gilbert.
Uh that said he showed up? You know I was

(16:08):
looking at when I when he showed up, immediately thought
and I couldn't recall. I go to Summer League every year.
I don't stay this late. Generally. I go to say
stay the first three or four days, because that's when
the picks play, uh and generally they get shut down
the longer it goes on, and and the game's just
become become wearisome because players get just worn down. But

(16:31):
all that said, I wondered, you know, how many times
has he shown up before Summer League? And I checked
with somebody with the with the calves and they said, yeah,
he's he's he's been out to watch us. He had
done that previously. Last summer. He came out and he
watched Alonzo. That was the story, is that he came
out to watch a Lonzo. So maybe that, uh, that

(16:52):
should have been taken as a harbinger of what we
uh we eventually saw happen. All that said, no, I
I do believe that he feels vested in the Lakers
and UH and showing up and knowing all who all
the players are. I mean, it is what Lebron does.
There For anybody who's who who wants to criticize Lebron,

(17:15):
there are elements that are fair to criticize. But one
of the things that he is intimately involved in whatever
teams he's playing playing for, is he's um he's intimately
involved in in in knowing who the players are. He
may not know their background, he may not be involved
with them personally, but he knows who they are as players,

(17:37):
and so this didn't surprise me. Rick Buker from Leach
Report joining US, Doug Otlin Show, Fox Sports Radio. All right,
some other league news, which is interesting. Jimmy Butler does
not sign an extension. Now, Um, there's financial intelligence to it,
to which if he waits, you can sign a bigger deal.
Or there's the growing thought that he didn't like what's

(17:58):
going on there. They got two young guys that are
a little bit different and that he doesn't buy into,
and that Jimmy Butler wants to be either l A
or New York after next offseason. What do you think
I've heard those I've heard those same very things, and
I heard them before. He actually when when he first

(18:18):
got to Minnesota, when he was dealt to Minnesota by
the Chicago Bulls, I was told this is a stop,
it's not a destination, and that being in Minnesota, being
in that market, actually playing for Tom Thibodeau again, even
though tips made him uh into the star that he is,

(18:39):
gave him the uh the authority and the and the
and the and the role that made him into the
star that he is. That he wasn't enthralled with that
because he knows all that comes with playing for tips.
But I don't. I don't think that this is just
I'm just making a fun This isn't Kyrie Irving and
Boston saying, hey, doesn't making sense for me to sign extension. Now,

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we'll talk about that when we get there. That one
has a different feel to me. This one is no,
I'm not signing because I'm not planning planning on staying
here long term. Brick Bucker joining us on the Doug
Gottlieb Show. Uh Kawhi Leonard? Where where where is san
Antonio with their decision as to where to send him
or or if to keep him next season? Well, they're

(19:25):
my What I've been told is that, you know, they
come into this thing in New Territory. They've never had
a player who has expressed the desire, the outright desire
to leave San Antonio, particularly one who is the nucleus
and and a cornerstone. Um, so they are now they're

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looking for one of two things, and and the first
is still kind of hard for me to believe, but
that they still hold out hope that they can convince
him to stay and continue the relationship. And the second
is that if we are gonna trade him, we want
as close to uh, the requisite amount of talent equal

(20:07):
talent coming back, and not just in a young player
and building blocks, but they want a legitimate player in
the mix. And so ultimately I believe that they're going
to get to the point where they're they're going to
have to accept maybe a little less than what they're
hoping for. But uh, the idea that he's going to stay,

(20:29):
I just I don't see that happening. Um. You know,
when it comes to Philadelphia and Toronto are the teams
that are most often discussed outside of the Lakers. I
do think it's possible that he could go to one
of those two. And the reason is because there are
connections between the Spurs and those two and people in

(20:51):
those organizations that would give them a comfort level that
that neither the Spurs nor the receiving team would otherwise
have Rick Buker from Bleacher Report joining us on the
Doug Gottlieb Show. All right, so we still don't really
have clarity as to where Kauai will play next year.
We do know Lebron will be like, let's bring it
back around to Lebron and the Lakers now that people

(21:14):
have seen some of their young players development. I know
Alonzo had had his knee scoped. He's supposed to be
back for training camp. What's now the thought of that
Laker plan part one? If if this is what they're
going to roll with our other NBA people laughing, are
they what's what's what's their reaction to what they've decided
to do in l A Uh, Well, they understand the plan,

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which is we're signing a bunch of guys to one
year deals and because we're just really it's year one.
We got Lebron. It's a little bit like getting Westbrook
to resign in Oklahoma City. We got the biggest job done.
The rest of it is, don't screw up our ability
to hit another home run next summer. What this this

(22:03):
this season essentially is just to get through it, develop
the young guys, get through it. I don't see anyway
anyhow that they make a deal for Kauhi Leonard. Now,
I don't think they want to give up assets. Uh,
they can take another year to see which pieces fit.
They still haven't seen brandon Ingram play essentially with uh,

(22:26):
with this group, so get an opportunity to to do that.
But the feeling is even when it comes to Lebron,
this is kind of a year off. The whole idea
that he's still chasing a title this year. Nobody sees
that as being in the cars. Everybody understands that this
what I think the magic is now saying it's a

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three year process. Uh, it's year one. They got one
building block in place. They're gonna make sure that when
they get to next summer that they can add a
second one. Trusting the process. In Los Angeles, Rick Buker
from from Bleacher Report with a little soccer mixed in
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top of the show, you mentioned Levy on Bell, so
we'll go right there. With the National Football League, Jeremy
Fowler of ESPN reports a deal between Levy on Bell
and the Pittsburgh Steelers is not to be expected by
the deadline. Time for franchise tag offers at four PM,

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so Bell will play the franchise tag for the second
straight season in Pittsburgh, thirty seven pick overall in twenty
fifteen New York Jets of Way wide receiver Devin Smith.
He tours a c l in and also did it
again in twenties seventeen. He's got a lot of tread
on the tires and he's only twenty six years of age.
NBA news Agrian war Janowski reports Dante Cunningham has agreed

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on a deal with the San Antonio Spurs Pistons of exercise.
The team option with Reggie Bullock will make two point
five million dollars for this upcoming Sea and in a
Major League Baseball starting pitchers that I've been announced today,
Nationals will get a smack shres are on the bump
and we'll go against Chris Sale on the American League
side of things. Sell this season tending four record and
two r A with strikeouts so far in just twenty games. Doug,

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back to you, Doug Gottli Show, Fox Sports Radio. M
hmmm mmm okay. So Ben McAdoo had this to say
Monday morning in America. Peter King's new column, Right or wrong.
I'm at peace with how I handled the decision to
play quarterbacks other than Eli Manning down the stretch last season.

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I was not ending Eli's career with the Giants. I
was making sure we knew what we had behind him
with a high draft choice prior to the big quarterback draft.
I gave him the option to start games to keep
his streak alive. I understand why he said no. He
was a true pro about it. My bedside manner hurt
me that week. I'm working on that. I do think
it was special how former teammates and fans rallied around

(25:02):
him that week. But if there's one thing, I want
Giants fans to know that I made this call to
try and make the Giant stronger for the future. It
probably got me fired, but I believe I did the
right thing for the right reasons. And I agree with
him when we go back and we try and realize, like, look,
they weren't winning any games. They were better off losing

(25:23):
more games. And remember McAdoo when when he says, you
wouldn't lose your starting job like they wanted to get
Davis Webb up and playing. They started Geno Smith because
because Eli forced their hand. That's really what happened. That's
really what happened. And Eli is one of these guys

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that he's gonna go down at what he's gonna go down.
He's gonna go to Hall of Fame who want two
Sir bowls? And he's gonna go down in the as
the victim in this deal, when the truth is he
was kind of the opposite. Sure macadoo's like he said,
his bedside manner, how he handled it, what how he said,

(26:07):
what he said could have been better. Look, I was
a lot more curt about it. I thought they should
have traded Eli midyear to Jacksonville to play for Tom Coughlin.
But in the did he win or did he lose?
He lost his job, So I guess he loses that battle,

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but he'll lose the war if and only if Eli
Manning suddenly has a resurgence this year. Right, Eli Manning
bounces back this year and is great. Well, now he
lost the war, but he's right if if Eli continues
to struggle and they have all their guys back, well
now the sudden, Ben McAdoo was right, He didn't, he

(26:53):
wasn't his decision to bench Eli Manning. He was Eli
Manning's decision to bench Eli Manning. It was like NFL
is like giants, fans, giants, media, former giants. They all
lost their collective mind because they all all of a
sudden thought that the streak was somehow representative of them

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when it was really about Eli. The greatest thing Eli
has done is be incredibly selfish in a deflecting way
to which it feels like he's not selfish. Oh you
don't want to start me, you don't want to finish me. Well,
I won't start. I'll just lose my streak. That's fine,
I'll just lose my streak. It's it's you know what

(27:42):
it is. It's fake martyrdom. You know, being a martyr
is sometimes people will do this at their job. You like, hey,
Rama's how's it going today? Man? That's okay? Why are
you so down? Rama's well, I didn't sleep well. My wife.
My wife's you know, my wife was upset at me.

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Then I got to work and you know, Jimmy from
the overnights, he forgot to turn off the computer and
none of that, and he starts going through all the
things that that he does that that his job calls
for but doing so in a now Ramas by the way,
if anybody knows John Ramas like the last that's the
opposite of how he acts right, does everything with a
smile and chuckle and could not be a more enjoyable

(28:26):
person to work around. But there are people that will
talk about the things they do and like all the
sacrifice they make and how difficult things are for them,
and they want you to go man that that's awful.
They don't appreciate you, they don't respect you. You should
walk from that job. Martyrdom, that's what he'd like, Manning did.

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He did the martyr thing. He said, you know, listen,
if you if you don't want me to finish the game,
then I guess you just shouldn't start me. You know,
I know I've been starting all these different years, but
you know only you only finish. Well, then what's the
point of starting. So I guess I just won't start.
He did the martyr thing and it worked. Does work

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like the Jedi mind trick. It works on people with
the with the um less bountiful mind. Yes, rhyme music.
Do you think Ben McAdoo, Because he has started to
finally meet with the press, and like last early last
I sorry, late last week he was talking about how
I wouldn't have stood on the table and gone all

(29:32):
in on drafting one of the quarterbacks in this year's draft,
and how he's starting to like open up to the
press again. Do you think he's trying to work towards
being back in the NFL or is he trying to
do something different, because I think if he's trying to
work towards getting back in the NFL, I don't know
if he's doing himself any favors. Mhm uh. Look, think

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he's only getting back in the NFL as an offensive
coordinator quarterback coach. Anyway. I do think that he was
promote he was. That's the He's the essence of what
the Peter principal is Peter principles, when you're promoted above
the level of your competency. Remember, he was an offensive
coordinator in Green Bay and he didn't really call plays.

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He comes over and installs the same offense to try
and help elongate Eli Manning's career, and it did because
that offense you get rid of the ball really quickly,
and his previous offense that Eli grew up in, you'd
held onto the ball so long that at times he
took really big hits. And then the reason they appointed
him head coach was the offense was better, the defense

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was bad, and they just didn't want more new verbiage
in the old head of Eli Manning. So in an
effort to keep him happy, keeping content, keeping progressing well,
getting rid of the ball, getting to Odell Beckham Junior quickly,
they named him head coached, which he just wasn't good
at head coach reaching things. So I don't know how
much this has anything. I don't think he said anything damning.

(31:06):
I thought there's some self deprecation there and saying in
my bedside, manner needs to be better. I was thinking
of the team first. There's no negative thing. I don't
think this hurts him and getting another job. I just
from It's not so much this in particular and how
he handled or at least, like you said, admitted the
mistakes that he made with the Eli Manning situation. There

(31:26):
was some other comments in the past about how like,
oh well, I like what the Giants are doing because
they're finally doing things that I would have done, And
it just sort of seems like he's being very honest,
which for us in our business, you're like, yeah, that's
great if you want to be a you know, a
TV analyst or you know, radio host or whatever it is,
because when you actually get a head coach or former

(31:49):
head coach is honest, it's really interesting. But you don't
normally see that from someone who is trying to get
back into the league because normally all you're gonna get
a total coach speaks so that that way they're not
seen as like a divisive type of person. No, it's look,
I get it, it's really really hard, but I don't
feel like he's given his coach peak. You think he's
trying to go in the media, that's what it seems like,

(32:13):
m or he is not doing himself any favors by
trying to prove that he deserves to be a head
coach again. And now I guess what you're saying is
that doesn't really matter because he's probably not going to
get that opportunity. Well, look, I I just I think
I think most people in the NFL completely understand what
happened in the Eli Manning thing. Gonna completely understand that

(32:37):
like he that everyone knew knew he was just trying
to They're trying to give Davis Webb a look. And
if you think that Geno Smith stinks, the problem was
that they shouldn't have signed Geno Smith, because Geno Smith
on paper accomplishes everything you want as a backup. He's
been a starter, like you didn't have to move him,
but he he had experience and actually Gino is not

(32:59):
terrble and the Giants coaching staff really liked him. The
problem was the fans hated him because he had been
a jet and they had seen him like he didn't
actually change markets. So even though he was now a
backup and he was a valuable backup, and you just
want to throw him a bone for being a really
good soldier, about helping Davis Webb, about being a backup,

(33:21):
showing up on time, and just give him a gim
a shot to finish the game. Because it was New
York and there was such uh, he had such negative
equity there he had ended up backfiring on them. I
think most NFL people completely completely understand that the parts
that the parts that that are gonna hurt Ben McAdoo

(33:44):
are the defense fighting amongst each other. Uh. His inability
to have command and control at press conferences. Just that
that's what being a head coach is only slightly about
deciding who to play and what plays the call. There's
a lot of managing that he needs to improve on.
But I don't think, yeah, I don't think he's getting

(34:06):
that job anyway as an NFL an NFL quarterback in
a college star trying to change the n c A.
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What's the game, Doug? We got big deal, little deal,
no deal? So here we go. Cardinals quarterback and former
u C. L A. Bruin star Josh Rosen wrote a

(35:14):
forty page essay along with a Southern California based law
firm titled the Modernization of College Athletics as an Incentive
for graduation? Dog is this is a big deal, little
deal or no deal at all? Look, I think it's
a little deal. I mean I think it's it's it's smart,
there's some real thought put into it. But they're missing

(35:36):
an overarching problem there that that's a real issue. Okay.
College scholarships work in a special way in which it's
a it's completely devoid of taxation. You don't get taxed
on benefits, nor does schools get taxed on the benefits
that they give to you or that they find. There's

(35:58):
different ways in which it works, but nobody pays taxes
on it. Additionally, there's a tax shelter in uh in
college athletics that that's being that's being closed or in
some for some sorts of donations which is really the
lifeblood of it. The idea is this that not only
would any of these payments have to be taxed, but

(36:19):
all the benefits they get from schools, including travel, would
also have to be taxed. It's a major, major issue,
and it's the it's one of the big reasons why
schools we're not interested in employing them. They get all
the benefit, You get all the benefits as a college
athlete of being employed without any of the hassle of
being taxed for it. So, look, it's a very smart

(36:41):
thought out. You could wiggle with the numbers. You could
change some things. I do think there's some post career
benefit things you can continue. You could funnel some money
into um and look, some of it comes down to
a revenue gain from the video game. Like they weren't
making much money in the video game. They weren't. That's
they got out of video game business. Um. I just

(37:03):
I think it's a little deal at the end of
the day. Well, one excerpt from his interview with with
pat Ford said that I wanted to be like the iPhone,
constantly updating to stay current with the times. Sounds good,
big deal, little neal. Sometimes sometimes the old flip phone
or the old Nokia is actually better. Stay tuned on
all that. Torrell Owens over the weekend tweeted his decision

(37:24):
to not attend the Pro Football Hall of Fame ceremony,
and it was for players of the past, present and
also the future who shouldn't have to wait to get
voted on in done. Big deal, little deal or no
deal at all to you? Uh what that? He tweeted
that out snow deal. You know you can tell me
it's about other players that didn't get that haven't gotten

(37:46):
into that got into late. But like it's it's all
about t O. It's t O drawing attention to t O.
Had he wanted to make it about other guys, he
could have said, please don't put me in. He could
have refused induction. That's one thing. Or two. He could
have shown up in livered a speech and said, hey,
I don't want to talk about me. I want to
talk about these guys who belong in the Hall of Fame. Instead,

(38:06):
he's done all this stuff of her self aggrandizing act
and we're all calling him on it all right. Moving
along National Football League news and onto the links. Tony
Romo won the American Century championship celebrity golf tournament over
the weekend. Because I say big deal, little deal or
no deal at all. Well, it's a big comeback, wasn't it.
How how many strokes was he down? Get to that

(38:26):
he was down a bunch? Just say a bunch? Yes,
a lot? Uh it was? It was by points right,
it was a big It was a big points come
back anyway point is Uh. It was a comeback. And
a guy who Tony Romo. There was a time when
Tony Romo was thought to be a choker right bad foot.
Then you look at the numbers like, oh, actually he's
really good. Um, it's a big deal because Tony Romo

(38:48):
has has tried to get on the US Open. You know,
he's played in those qualifiers again the US Open. He's
covered a little bit of golf for CBS. So if
you want to be baseball player, basketball, a football player,
come be come golf guy. You gotta actually be good
at golf. And he is actually good at golf. Is
game time on the Duck Godlip Show Home Run Derby Night.

(39:11):
Anybody care they may care? Can you name a participant
in the home Run Derby Music You wanna try? Well, yeah,
I mean Bryce Harper go that one first. They can
you name anybody who's not a Washington National Aguilar? I
think it's is it Jose Aguilar that that you did

(39:34):
it with a question? I know his last name is
Jesus star quarterback in the NFL. Is still upset. We'll
tell you why what up? Doug Gottlieb show, Fox Sports Radio.

(39:56):
Of the events that we should we should start to
kind of get in on. You know, they have the
pro am up at Lake Tahoe. You guys have been
a Lake Taho before, never been. Oh, Lake Taho is beautiful,
beautiful now. Look it's like California beautiful. I don't know
how to express that. The lake is cold. It's not

(40:17):
like anybody who's in the South listening to US now,
or even the East coast where it's huge more humid. Uh.
And the lakes are a little bit lower altitude, like
those lakes are might not be as refreshing, but they're
a lot warmer sefee water skiing in them, you fall,
you know, you you get dumped into the water. You're like, man,
it's it's refreshing, but it's actually warm. Taw is cold.
Tall is not a warm lake. But it is gorgeous

(40:40):
around there, great golf, incredible resorts, you know, and the
obviously the Vegas side, the Nevada side you can gamble. Um,
you can gamble. So they have a they got a
big like a pro am tournament where they have former
athletes that play in it. And it's that's really interesting

(41:01):
to watch. You guys. Saw Steph Curry lost to his
dad del and the loser had to jump into lake.
He jumped into the lake. Um. Aaron Rodgers played in it,
and uh, look Rogers. Rogers had this to say, I'd
love to play until I'm forty. I just think that
number means a lot. Obviously, Tom Brady is kind of

(41:23):
rewriting the book Brett. Brett still had a good season
when he turned forty. My goals be able to move
like I do and or close or close to how
I do and still be able to do that at forty,
just because nobody's been able to do that and still
move around the same way. Steve Young's career got cut
short in his late thirties. John Elway the same. He

(41:44):
didn't really move the same when he was younger, so
to be able to move the same way thirty forty
would be cool. That's my aim. He disagrees with the
take that he's got to get rid of the ball
quicker to take fewer hits. I tried to already. I've
played football since I was thirteen years old. I've taken
two shots where I couldn't wriggle free and broke my

(42:06):
collar bone twice. I feel pretty good about the way
I play, avoiding some major stuff. I've had a couple
of muscle polls, but other than that, as a starter,
I've been pretty healthy. Two hits. First time was in
thirteen against Chicago. I didn't see the guy. Second time
was last year. Anthony Barr hit him outside the pocket.
I didn't think he was gonna hit me, maybe as
hard as he did, but he did, and that's what happened. Senden.

(42:30):
The question becomes um his contract. Now he has two
years left on a five year, one and ten million
dollar deal. Quote. It's only been on my mind because
people have been writing and talking about a lot. There
have been many conversations about it. I think there's some
merit to looking into where you do a non traditional

(42:51):
contractual agreement, and if anybody at this point is able
to get to do something like that. I think it
needs to be a conversation about I've never said anything
about trying, uh tying the contract to the cap. I
just think there's ways to do contracts. We can still
be competitive to the team is happy about it. But
you have some freedom, he said, And this is he'd

(43:12):
like to play his entire career in Green Bay. But
I think in my time here I realized no one's
above the team. They can trade Bread Far and Jordy Nelson.
They cannot resign Julie, Charles Woodson or Julius Peppers. They
can make decisions that are the best interests of the team.
It could be me at some point. You have to
be humble enough to realize that, and I do. I'd

(43:35):
love to be able to how many guys actually picked
the way and team in which they go out. You know,
hardly anybody. My dream situation would be to stay in
Green Bay. All right, let me just tell you what
I might take insummation. UM, I do think that he
only wants to play till his forty, wants to be
able to move till he's forty. I do think that

(43:56):
he would like to stay in Green Bay and wants
to rework his contract, and that's a smart way of
saying it a non traditional agreement. What is that I
think that I My guess would be that he's thinking
more in line of of what Lebron James has been
doing in basketball. You know, football players, a lot of
them love basketball, not just basketball contracts, but basketball in general.

(44:20):
And signing a short term deal which allows freedom, flexibility,
the chance to move if you're no longer wanted or whatever. Like,
all of that stuff is enticing to those guys. But
NFL teams want those longer contracts for a guy like
Rogers because even if we're gonna cut you, we want
to be able to own your rights so we don't
have to if we don't want to. But my biggest

(44:42):
takeaway is still mad about Jordy Nelson? Still mad? Right?
And if you're in a relationship, I don't know if
guys do this, women do this all the time. You
say something nice about a woman she looked nice today.

(45:03):
Four months later, your wife's cooking dinner. It turns out
a little bit burned you had said something four months
previous about Susie. Wait, Susie looks nice today, she serves
you dinner. You say, oh, honey, it's kind of burned. Well,
why don't you ask Susie to cook for you? She's
still pissed, right, there was that time when you came

(45:25):
in just completely blitzed to her Thanksgiving dinner. This is
twenty years ago. She's still mad. That's what Aaron Rodgers
is doing. Aaron Rodgers is still like. He's like they
can trade. Brett Farve. Okay, Brett Farve is an iconic
Green Bay packer, a first ballot Hall of Famer. A

(45:46):
matter of fact, he was, even though he was persona
non gratta because he ended his career in Minnesota, he
was still in the Ring of Honor, Walk of Fame
or whatever they call it in Green Bay before he
was in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Me's Brett
Farve longest, uh starting streaking the history of football? And
oh yeah, by the way, one two circles and a

(46:08):
couple of m v ps. Charles Woodson, though not a
lifer as a packer, also a first ballot Hall of Famer.
Julius Peppers, probably a Hall of Famer. Jordy Nelson. Now
look Jordy Nelson. Some of it is recency biased that
he and Julius Peppers were the most recent to be
bid a do. But I think a good part of
it is he's, you know, he's trying to talk in

(46:30):
big terms about how it's not might not be his
choice to remain, but this is his way of getting
a little dig in and going like, hey, cut Jordy,
I haven't forgotten you, cut Jordy. It's the kind of
thing where a guy will have a drop in the
in early in the season and be like, well, you know,
Jordy Nelson wouldn't have dropped that. That's the kind That's

(46:52):
what it feels like here, Aaron Rodgers only making twenty
two million on average, less than quarterbacks our cousins all
guaranteed Matt Ryan thirty per. Rogers, to me is the
best quarterback I've seen throw football, best I've ever seen
if you check every box of what you have to do. Competitive, smart, tough,

(47:13):
able to throw multiple arm angles, moves his feet and
throw in the pocket, can throw out of the pocket.
Rogers is that guy. But he's a little bit too
smart for his own goods sometimes, right, he's like, look,
what about a creative contract. You start saying creative contract

(47:33):
and people will think you're trying to get over on them.
Just is how do they know that, because most creative
contracts are just that. It's it's like the old adjustable
rate mortgage. Oh don't worry, you can afford that house.
We've got a creative mortgage plan for you. See, you'll
pay interest only the first five years, and then you know,

(47:54):
you can refinance or the interest it'll go up and
you'll start have to pay principal and interest after that.
That's what happened last time around. Ran people are making
forts living in three thousand dollar homes and they're paying
almost nothing and interest only when they had to start
playing some principle and they had to refinance or the

(48:15):
loan went up, you know, two percentage points a year,
and end of the day they end up paying eight
nine percent when other people are paying three percent plus.
They're having to play principle and the payments are just
too much. People think creative contracts and they assume you're
trying to get over on them, mostly because you are.

(48:40):
So Look, look, I just I think Aaron Rodgers wants
to play for the Packers. I think the packers have
swallowed hard and made some unpopular moves this offseason. I
genuinely think it. It makes them better in the long term,
maybe even in the short term. But I think in
the process they pissed some people off, like Aaron Rodgers,
he's mad about Jordy Nelson. Otherwise, why would you throw
Jordy Nelson's name in there? Yes? Right, music? After all

(49:05):
this talk about Aaron Rodgers and his contract and as
you just said, trying to get creative to see you know,
different ways to get money and whatever. Aaron Rodgers, we
always talk about how great he is, even though he
only has one Super Bowl. If he had to choose
one or the other getting the most money possible or
taken a bit off the table in order to spread

(49:26):
that out to hopefully get better players and win more titles.
Which do you think he cares more about at this
point in his career. I would say he and his
pargument probably be you can do both if you're smart
about it right. You can do short term deals, you
build some trust, you put it in a signing bonus,
and it doesn't hurt you against the cap nearly as much,

(49:48):
I would say, he'd say, But, um, I do think
that winning a second Super Bowl completely elevate, elevates you
to a completely different level, uh in terms of your legacy.
So I would guess winning another super Bowl. Now, look,
there's a balance there. Would I do it for less, sure,
but that doesn't mean that I'm gonna do it for
less than what I make now. But I do it

(50:11):
for less than thirty five million dollars, which is what
I'm worth. Okay, Would I do it for less than
five million dollars? Probably not. That's not smart. Turns out,
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Doug Gotlip Show Fox Sports Radio. This from Kevin Colbert,
who's the Kevin Colbert? Excuse me? I did Colbert be
like the Colbert Report. Kevin Colber is the GM of
the Pittsburgh Steelers. Even though we could not reach a
long term contract agreement with Levyan Bell, we're excited he
will be with the team in two thousand eighteen. We
worked very hard to find common ground, but are unable
to accomplish that. Prior to today's deadline, Levian will play

(51:04):
this season under the exclusive franchise tag designation. After the
two thousand eighteen seasons completed, we will again attempt to
work out a long term contract with levy On in
the hope that he will continue his career with the
Pittsburgh Steelers. Ed Baschett has covered the Pittsburgh Steelers as
long as I can remember. There's no guy who has
more insight into that organization than Ed, and he's kind
enough to spend some time with this. Um. You can

(51:25):
hear him locally on ninety three point seven FM in Pittsburgh.
And I know this is not a surprise, but I
still would love to know your honest reaction to the news. Again, Yeah,
it isn't a surprise. I mean they've been doing this
for a year and a half now. Um, you know,
uh started at the end of the sixteen season and uh,

(51:46):
they've gotten nowhere they can close last year, but Dell
rejected a contract his agent had, if you will, um
accepted and then UM, you know, everybody expressing optimism, coach,
general manager Bell, but nothing that's done. Um, you know,
it looks like it probably will be his last year.

(52:08):
Although you know they're still an opening that they could
sign them to a real contract after the end of it.
Is this anywhere? Like when our pool Holt's career ended
with the with the St. Louis Cardinals, they made him
an offer that they thought was fair. They knew it
wouldn't get done, but they thought it was fair if
it did get done, knowing ultimately that they would be

(52:29):
blown out the water, which they were by the Angels
and actually the Marlins as well. And so when pool
Holts left, they lost, you know, a couple of years
of the end of his prime. But they knew it.
What just was not financially the right move to make.
Is that what they're doing here? Why I think they
made him a fair offer. I mean it obviously if

(52:49):
his agent accepted it. Last year's agents thought it was fair,
and um uh, you know, I don't know that they
were that far off this year, although no figures have
come out yet on what they were offering and what
he was willing to accept. But um, you know, it's funny.
It's the running back position was downgraded by unfortually the

(53:10):
entire league. Like back to when Bell was drafted. Um,
he was drafted in the second round. Nobody was drafted
in the first um. And and you look around and
you see what the Eagles have done with a group
of backs. You see what the Patriots have done with
you know, seems like they're changing backs all the time. Um.

(53:31):
You see what happened with de Marco Murray was with
a great offensive line, he goes somewhere else in his career.
Dies um Bell is in that position. Here, he's with
a great line, three Pro Bowl guys, um to All pros,
all Pro receiver, Pro Bowl UM quarterback, and he even

(53:52):
has a good Pro Bowl fullback. So, um, he's in
an ideal situation. But you know, I can't I can't
say he's doing wrong. I mean, he's the man of
his convictions. And we'll see how it works out. But
I I'm I'm surprised if they went as far as
they did. I was surprised last year, and then I
was surprised that he turned it down. He Um, he

(54:16):
told us at the Super Bowl that if he was
on the franchise tag designation, he wouldn't show up for
training camp. Has there been any discussion about whether or
not he'll show up this year? No, he's nothing to
do that. I'm convinced. Uh, you know, he turned out
last year on Labor Day for the Monday before the
season opener, and I fully expect that's what he's gonna

(54:37):
do again. There's no reason to believe he's going to
change his mind on that kind of tactic. You know,
there's reports out there that he might um stay out
for ten games and let's ludicrous too. What's he gonna
sacrifice nine million dollars this year in order to try
and then make that up next year? And that's it

(54:57):
he has. You know, if he still doesn't get hurt
in the last six games or doesn't do anything in
the last six, um, I think you'll see Labor Day
he'll sign and he'll be in there and ready to Well,
I don't know if he'll be ready to go. He
would got off to a slow start last year, but
he'll be Uh, he'll start from the beginning. The the

(55:18):
change that offensive coordinator, will that positively or negatively affect
Lady on Bell's statistics? Yeah, I don't see that either way.
I mean the fact that they are committing there's a
lot of money still, even though they didn't get a
long term deal done, fourteen and a half million for
that one position, they'll run him like they've run him
in the past, and throw the ball to him like

(55:39):
they have in the past. They'll use them. Um, that's
why they wanted them, because he has been such a
need'll go part of their offense, you know. It's uh
uh he really helps spend out. Of course for Office
Burger and Antonio Brown helped him out as well. But uh,
he's he's an important part of that offense. And I
think that's why they anchise them again rather than go

(56:02):
in a different direction. They feel they had at least
not a shot with him in the lineup to get
to a Super Bowl. Uh. And the last pieces this
is Ed Bischette joints this from Pittsburgh. He works for
the Pittsburgh Post. Cazetti also, I worked your ninety three
point seven FM and Pittsburgh been coming to team since
since the Shasier injury changed their defense for the worst.

(56:22):
Obviously when when that occurred, Um, how are they how
are they going to try and fix that? And that's
a that's a gaping hole in the middle, not just
physically but mentally as well with all the things he did. Yeah, dog,
they didn't fix it. At the end of last year,
but you know, they only had a month try and
do it. They weren't able to. Uh, they really didn't

(56:43):
do it the way they wanted to. This year, they
had hoped to draft one in the first round. All
the guys they felt were worthy of that were gone
by a time it was their turn, so they signed
a free agent. Uh, they drafted some safeties. Um, i'd
I still don't know that they're going to be able
to replace nobody's like says here, but I don't know

(57:04):
if they're adequately going to be able to replace him
again this year, Ed Baschette Pittsburgh still own Pittsburgh Post
Gazette seven FM is leaby on Bell is gonna have
a franchise tag by his name yet again. This year
that became official as a for Eastern One pacific ed.
Great stuff, Enjoy what remains of your summer, and thanks
for joining us on Fox Sports Radio. All right, Doug,

(57:25):
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this my favorite story of the weekend. But go ahead.
I when you look at the running back in the NFL,

(57:47):
and then you also look at the center in the NBA,
same thing. Yeah, both people have said they started to
phase their way out. But we also know that in
sports things go through different waves and new styles and
the way that they play. Which one do you think
is more bound to make a resurgence? Do you think
the big man? Yeah, that that's where the NBA could

(58:10):
see itself. You think the running back is just will
continue to be a devalued position from here on out. Um,
I just think that the big man, like the running back,
you're gonna have to evolve. The problem with the running
back is a little bit with the big guy. The
problem with the running back is that you can you

(58:30):
can you can have three or four guys, you can
change guys for different plays. You can save money that way,
because injuries are gonna remain continue to remain a big
part of it. It's not just that having a running
back isn't a supportance that you know, one shot to
the knee, you know what's happened. To Levon last year
where he took a shot to thee and everybody thought

(58:50):
he was hurt and he popped back into that game. So,
but the injuries or the way offense is played, um
and not wanting to you know, lock onto undude for
all that money. I look at centers and I think
centers are going to do. You still need a small
ball hive shore. But Joel embiads here to stay, Karl
Anthony Town's here to stay. Anthony Davis like you have

(59:13):
to have versatility while still having a guy who can
play center. I think center are going to be more viable.
I think it's just the traditional center, much like the
traditional running back. I mean that's um, well, who is
it retired last Friday running back. We're just talking about
DeMarco Murray. Like DeMarco Murray was a one cut guy,

(59:35):
did not have great hands out the back field, was
not great in pass protection. Levian Bell is a twenty
century running back. He can catch it, he can running
run it um, and he's decent in past protection. Like
he does all three things that you have to do.
The problem is you just don't need one guy to
do it. That's being way too overly leverage on one

(59:55):
guy at the running back position. That's not smart. So
I think that's the that's what he's fighting against more
than anything. Can I share with you guys my favorite
story of the weekend. Did you guys see this jaguar
at the Audubon Zoo in New Orleans? Jaguar the Audubon
Zoo killed uh four alpacas, one mu, and one fox.

(01:00:18):
And apparently it's an emu. Emu, it's an emu. What
is an email? I thought an emo is an alpaca.
I thought they're like the same thing. An alpaca is
a lama. What is the difference in a lama and
alpaca an emu? I don't know anyway, So the jaguar
got out, got out, and I mean the most impressive

(01:00:43):
thing was I think he also killed an anaconda. Did
you see that? He's walking around with an anaconda in
his mouth when they shot him with a dart, Like,
I have so much respect for this jaguar. They didn't
put him down because like, look, he was just doing
what jaguars do. But you know he's walking around that
dude like still got it, still got it. Oh, you guys,

(01:01:07):
think behind behind this cage and I'm cute, Fluffy, I'm
sleeping all the time. Still got it. That's Kobe dropping
sixteen his last game. Right. I ain't as good as
that once was, but I'm as good once as I
ever was. Apparently. Um On Sunday morning, a fox dide

(01:01:29):
and another alpaca. Can you just imagine those alpacas? You
know they chew? Hi, Look there's a jaguar in our thing.
Wonder what? Oh wow? He just killed Jimmy. Right, if
you're a zoo animal, you have no concept of what
real animals and hunting looks like. Yes, Ramos, so I assume.

(01:01:53):
I mean I didn't read the story. I did see
the story. I'm assuming he just jumped from cage to
cage opening and just mauled all the animal. Is that
what was going on? Like he just roamed and jumped
into the cages. Ate what he wanted to? Just jump
right back out, kept moving along. I don't know. I
don't know. The Jaguars named Valero in a post on

(01:02:17):
Facebook on February They the Zoo called him a lovable
goofball encouraged encourage visitors to visit the Jaguar Jungle exhibit yeah,
I'd call him now a lovable, deadly goofball. Yeah, he
also didn't What's what strange is he didn't um eat

(01:02:39):
the animals that he killed. Normally, animals who kill in
the wild they kill only two feast. Obviously, I think
some of that is he probably you know, they go
stir crazy, they're not there. They don't act the way
they used to act, so like see a Sillary serial
killer jaguars. So this, uh, this was said that they

(01:03:00):
weren't giving an official explanation as to what happened yet
because they were doing an after action review. But after
an initial inspection, it revealed the roof of the habitat
was compromised. For the habitat was compromised. But that also
doesn't explain what John said. I mean, I guess if
they're like open air exhibits, that's how he got into

(01:03:22):
the other animal enclosures. But they haven't officially said how
everything went down just yet. Like I I just think
people would go by this Jago, I'll be like, respect
all right, man, he still got it. I guess the
real deal right there, that's like the one guy in
jail that everyone in jail is like, don't mess with

(01:03:44):
that guy. Like there are certain guys in jail to
which you know, I don't care. There's there's another there's
a certain level of respect in jail. That's that's this guy.
Let's get to David Gascon. Are you a zoo guy, David,
I haven't been to the zoo in a long time.
I think it's really sad place. I go to the

(01:04:06):
Getty a lot. You go to the Getty at all.
What's the Getty? The Getty Museum right off the four
or five. Oh no, you can take your wife there
for a date. Why the museum's great. I mean you've
got obviously sculptures, you've got paintings, you got outside cafes.
You can look at all that scenery out there too,

(01:04:28):
you know, a little daytime affair with your wife if
you like. Okay, all right, anyways, National Football League News
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Never been there. Good, good hike daytime, afternoon, night, morning, morning,
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(01:04:50):
of things going on here. Trade deadline, a trade DeLine,
franchise tag deadline. It's a thing in the past, and
so no deal was struck for several players and obviously
the headline of their Steelers to all back Levy on
Bell Cowboys de Marcus Lawrence, Lion Ziggy Ansa and rams
La Marcus Joyner. Further to boot on that Bell's agent
Twitter down today his intention was to retire as a Steeler.

(01:05:12):
This now likely will be Lebian's last season as a
Pittsburgh Steeler, so stay tuning all of that. Uh pick
Overall in wide receiver Devin Smith has been way by
the New York Jets. He's torn his A c L
twice in the last four years in Major League Baseball.
Starting pitchers have been named today for the eighty ninth
All Star Game, as expected, with d C being the

(01:05:33):
host City National's ace. Max Scherzer will get the rock.
On the American League set will be Chris Sale. A
couple of notes in the NBA, Pistons of exercise their
team option with Reggie Bullock. He'll just make under three
million dollars this year. Adrian war Jnowski reporting early today
Dante Cunningham has reached in agreement with the San Antonio Spurs,
and the New York Knicks have waived Troy Williams. Well,

(01:05:56):
I got, that's all I got. You kind of made
it sound like Max Scher's there's a surprise or Max
Schurts was only getting the start because he's a hometown guy.
I think. So wouldn't you have started Jacob Degram? No,
I would start Max Scherzer. Why because Max Schurser is
a better picture than Jacob Degram even if they gave
And who is the who is this young Award winner
last year? That was last year? Now? Who is the

(01:06:16):
ward winner last year? Yes? Right? Right? So, so I
mean you only go by the first three months of
the season. That's who starts the all that's I just
you know, I mean, like, look, is it is it
close between Sherzer and de Gram? Uh? Yeah? I mean
they're r A once first to one second? Correct? Well

(01:06:37):
r A is at one and a half. I understand understand,
but one is first, one is second in the r
A correct, Okay, And it was I mean what was
the Gram's last year? About the check? I'll help you
on this one. If you look at his pitching status
from this year, they are spectacular. Jacob deGrom leads all
of baseball the one point six eight y r A

(01:06:58):
which is fantastic, but they get and this is kind
of one of one of those things where I don't
simply take into account. Last year he had a three
point five three r A, highest of his career, cut
his hair and good things have happened. I won't point
that out, So I I just I can't erase from
my memory. Like to me, it's the last second half
of last year, first half of this year, and then
your overall career, and that's kind of that's how I

(01:07:21):
do it. Overall first career, Jacob Degram has been incredible,
Like look, two point seven a d r A in
five years as it started, Like those are legit numbers.
On the other hand, Mac chers just one what two
in the National and one in the American League so young,
including last year, and he's not having a bad year.
He's second in in the National League in the r A.

(01:07:41):
He's stirred now, yeah, Barla's number two Philadelphia, All right,
my bad. So he's stirred now. He's right there. Um
and yes, I'm sure the hometown thing helps him. But
it's not like when Matt Harvey. Matt Harvey had a
good start to his career. He started with the Mets.
I was against that one, against that one because I
take the whole thing into again. You told back great

(01:08:01):
stuff from your David. I appreciate it. Richard Sherman says
mistakes and poor judgment ruined the special Seattle Seahawks. Sherman
told Robert Clemco quote quote, it's just unfortunate, really unfortunate.
I think it'll all come out when they do a
thirty for thirty, But mistakes and poor judgment on things

(01:08:22):
ruined what could have been a really special deal. They
lost their way. It's that simple. They just lost their way.
When you make too many mistakes of a long period
of time, you dig yourself a hole. Then when you backtrack,
you gotta make a bunch of rast decisions, try and
fill a hole and hope it holds up. You don't
have much left right now, and say you're not gonna

(01:08:45):
pay it. Earl Thomas, there's no decline and play there.
He's played the game the right way. Who do you
have to pay? You have the two best linebackers in
the game, you have a quarterback, you have a great
wide receiver, and you're paying Dwayne Brown. Richard Sherman cannot
get over his ex girlfriend. I look, I know the

(01:09:07):
breakup has not been that long. I know he's though
he's dating somebody, he has not remarried somebody, but he
cannot get over his ex. That's what the Seahawks are about.
That's That's one of those ones to which when I
hear people say I don't want to talk about the past,
I actually now kind of respect a little bit more. Now, Look,

(01:09:28):
if you really want to get down to it, you're
Richard Sherman. What should you say is, look, I wish
things had gone differently for me personally, wish I hadn't
gotten hurt. I wish there wouldn't have been any of
the negative stuff. We're one play away from winning a
second Super Bowl, a couple plays away from winning more
than that. But end of the day, we had legion
of boom want a super Bowl played into competitive the

(01:09:50):
whole time. It was incredible. The problem with Richard Sherman
is twofold one or threefold one. He's still talking about
old relationship. Don't do that when you're dating somebody knew two.
There's no level of accountability. Not once in here or
had Richard Sherman ever said I'm not the guy used
to be I need to improve, I need to adjust

(01:10:12):
now my body coming off a torn achilles tendon, none
of that, None of that. And then three, there doesn't
seem to be any sort of appreciation, like look if if,
if he's gonna come after Pete and the front office
for making bad decisions. Remember, those are the same guys

(01:10:36):
that made the decisions to acquire all that talent. It
doesn't mean that he's not right that some of those
decisions they made it wrong, right, right, But it also
means that when you're when you're only critical of everybody
else and you're basically saying it's their fault that this
thing fell apart. And by the way, you're not talking

(01:10:58):
about all the different guys that wanted to get paid,
including you rich TRM want to get paid. Um No,
I think, Look, they did lose they lost pieces slowly
over time, they lost piece still slowly over time, and
they did trade away their best offensive guard. Right to

(01:11:21):
go and get Jimmy Graham. You know you got it,
But I think you know and I think he's still mad,
probably about not handing the ball off to the running
back on second down instead throwing interception. But this is
kind of who Richard Sherman is super talented, too smart
for his own good, never really accountable, even if some

(01:11:45):
of what he's saying is in factual. Online shot car shopping, Oh,
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(01:12:06):
Butler or Kawuai Leonard. We'll pose that question next. Car
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(01:12:37):
Matheny fired over the weekend. Easy Come, Easy Go. Uh,
they're obviously struggling in St. Louis. Haven't been the say
in the past couple of years. Got eviscerated by some
in the media. Matheny, having never managed before, struggled early
on and really seemed to find his rhythm as a manager,
and then struggled late in his rum with with the Cards.

(01:12:58):
I think a lot of that, though, is personnel based.
Their personnel not as good as as it used to be.
Every day this time, we'd like to play for you
a portion of a show previously on Fox Sports Wonder
Fox Sports Traity, we call it Jason McIntyre hosts a
show on Saturday mornings. He had this to say about

(01:13:21):
the Lakers choices this coming up upcoming off season. I
would take Jimmy Butler over Kawhile, and I think it's
really close, and I've done. Let me just I'll get
the stats out of the way, because Kauai beats him
in the stats. It's close. There is a website online
and we'll just compare the stats of all the players.
Scoring is about equal rebounds. Kauai is a better rebounder,
Jimmy Butler is a better passer, and this is the

(01:13:43):
one that hurts. Defensively, Jimmy Butler is awesome. His last
six years, he's been in the league for seven his
last six years, he's been all defense. Whether it's second
or thirteen. Kauai is a better defender. Kauai is the
two time defensive Player of the Year, So Kauai is
better defense. Shooting three pointers, scoring equal rebounding Kawai. Jimmy

(01:14:05):
Butler the only area he's better than Kauai as an assist. So, Jason,
why would you take Jimmy Butler over Kawai? Two things?
Or why I want Jimmy Butler. He's a tireless worker,
and he's a tough s ob, just a hard nosed
guy who's only gonna work. Mhm. Kui is not a
hard worker. I mean, I get. I think Jimmy Butler

(01:14:28):
is awesome. I love the Jimmy Butler story. Um, but
you don't go from being a high school and college
center and power forward to being an elite perimeter player
and a viable three point weapon unless you're a tireless worker.
You know, if you want to do the whole clutch thing.

(01:14:49):
I do. Remember when Kawhi Leonard was the m v
P of the NBA Finals playing against Lebron James. So look,
if I had my choice, I would take Kawhi Leonard,
third best player in the NBA. Do I worry about
whether or not injuries caused him to shut it down

(01:15:11):
a little bit, a little bit, a little bit, but
I think there's a lot of play here. I would
take Kuai's better player. He's also about two years younger
Um a year and three quarters younger, And though they're more,
they're both versatile. He's a much more versatile and better
offensive players, and he's a better defensive player. Like he's

(01:15:32):
just better. My thought is why I take one when
you can take them both. I saw this. So there
are some guys who continue to point out Mookie Bets
as better stats, some stats than Mike Trout, And I
think that many of you by now know, Um, I'm

(01:15:54):
on team Trout. As as Mike Trout is the best
player in baseball and the Mookie Bets are men. Is
really really interesting if you go by the numbers, Mookie Betts,
who has a six point three WAR, slightly lower than
Mike Trout's war of six point eight. Mookie Bets has
only one at bats Mike Trout has three thirty five.

(01:16:18):
Mike Trout has walked twice as many times, but he's
also struck it out twice as many times. His batting
average is lower, and his on base percentage is just
slightly higher. Trout's slugging percentage is just lower, his ops
is just lower. You could make the argument that Mookie
Betts is having a better year than Mike Trout, and
I'm not sure I would argue with you in terms

(01:16:39):
of pure raw statistics. But here's the thing that baseball
guy won't do. They won't talk about your your overall lineup.
That lineup protection to them doesn't mean bub kiss that
that's something that's a myth, and the stats prove prove
it to be a myth. But here's the thing, Mookie

(01:17:02):
Betts behind him, you have, um, you have Xander Bogart's
who's got who's hitting two eighty four with sixteen home runs.
Behind him, you got j DM Martinez, who's having an
m v P caliber season of his in his own right.
And behind him, he got Mitch Moreland, who's not great

(01:17:23):
but pretty damn good. That's the top four in their lineup.
The juxtaposition of that with what Mike Trout is dealing
with is really really remarkable. You know, what Mike Trout
has behind him in comparison is almost a joke. It's
a joke Mike Trout yesterday he had third at the

(01:17:47):
Dodger Stadium. Analdson Simmons, who one of the reasons Donaldson
Simmons sees so many fastballs is he's got Mike Trout
behind him. Justin Upton, nice player Ian Kinsler. Ian Kinsler
has been heard this year whether they're playing in kincer
or cool. Calhoun has been hurt hitting below the Mendoza
line or or Albert pool Holes. Like, you have to
ask yourself, if I don't give Mike Trout anything good

(01:18:11):
to hit and he's on first base, okay, so I
gotta get Justin Justin up to now. And if I
don't get him out, that's fine. I got Albert Pools up,
who gets on base less than thirty percent of the time.
Mike Trout also has been up this year with no
runners on base more than any player in baseball. So

(01:18:35):
you can tell me that hey bets his numbers. Line
up protection doesn't matter. But when you never come up
with guys with ducks on the pond that you can
hit a fly out to senator to score run. Tagging
in when it doesn't put any pressure on the picture
to throw you anything good to hit, and you don't
have Hall of Fame, you don't have m v P

(01:18:56):
caliber players hitting behind you. Well, doesn't like that. Why
are numbers guys? Why are they so immune to common sense?
Common sense tells you it's harder. It's baseball is the
opposite of basketball. Basketball. When you've got nobody else around you,
you can put up huge numbers like d' angelo Russell
does mean you'll win. In baseball, it seems harder to

(01:19:18):
be one guy putting up huge numbers on an average
to bad team. And Trout's the perfect example of that
perfect example. Um, some positions are being eliminated and some
some are being marginalized. The center, the running back, just

(01:19:42):
two among a bigger discussion. We'll tell you how that
relates to Levan Bell. Next, and the Doug Gotlip Show,
Fox Sports Radio. What up, Doug gott Leave Show, Fox
Sports Radio. I hope you're having a great day. You
had a specter pacular weekend. Do Do Do Do? World

(01:20:05):
Cup is over? France is your champion? Lay champion? Can
I just say I would never go to a place
for that many people are partying outside, or that many
people are watching a game outside. I just yeah, and
you could tell me that's like, well, you know, it's
like the SEC. It just means born. Maybe it means more,

(01:20:30):
or maybe you just don't have anything else to celebrate.
I don't know. Is there anything that we would collectively
celebrate like that? Sports wise as a country? Can you
think of anything? Like we were win a world championship
in basketball? We're kind of supposed to when we win

(01:20:50):
gold medals. There's too many different events, like we won
the World Cup, which would be incredible. There would there
be parties? Yeah? Would there be one place like the
Seanslise that was was just ridiculously packed yet huh? And
the Arctic Triumph and the Chasse they're both packed. Yeah,
maybe I couldn't. This is John, but I couldn't see
maybe Times Square would be like packed with thousands of

(01:21:13):
people watching the game on the on the central screen. No,
we all have good TVs here. I go like, yeah,
oh yeah, yeah. I like when I watched the people
in Toronto do it when they watch outside of the playoffs, Like, man,
don't you guys have a TV at home? It's cold outside,
even it's not a cold outside, think it's warm outside.

(01:21:33):
Then you go and you you have people have TVs.
The difference in America. You want to know how America's
the best country because people have TVs by their pool now,
while other countries are catching up and starting to put TV,
big TVs on their walls because you know, TV they're
crazy expensive and they don't have like we're not getting
the packages we're getting. In addition, now we've kind of

(01:21:54):
moved on to where we get we have package. We
have put people put TVs out by their barbecue because
it's too much effort to walk inside and watch the TV. Yes,
romost I went to go watch the Lakers win. I
think it was one of the championships, and the too
the shack ones with my wife, so let's go to
a place and watch again. They're like, okay, I went.
It was the worst time I've ever had. I couldn't

(01:22:17):
all the people they were jumping sharing, and I couldn't
hear of the game. I couldn't understand. I was like,
I gotta what happened? What's happening here. Part of it
is you have to remember that for the most part,
for the most part, the commentary doesn't matter in soccer
nearly as much as it does to American sports. That's
a it's a big part of the commentary. The commentary

(01:22:39):
was really good on Fox, but the in game commentary
because they take one international feed. If it was done
by an American crew only, I think it would be
watch viewed a little bit differently. We would break down
more plays, the set pieces, if you will, There'll be
more diagrams. But because it's continuing, can any of his

(01:23:00):
action until you know somebody fakes an injury? Um, it's
done on one feed and the commentary doesn't really matter.
Whereas Super Bowl it does, NBA Finals, it does, n
c A tournament, I think it does college football, it
does um so I think that's part of it. But yes,

(01:23:23):
I if I can't, I don't like go into other
people's houses to watch a big event because sometimes I
want to turn the channel. Sometimes I wanta turn ups.
Doesn't want to turn down like I just don't. I don't.
That one's the hardest thing. It's hard for me to
understand how people who have so many things going in
their favor, like Europeans, do they still smoke some areas,

(01:23:47):
not most, not France, but some areas they don't believe
in deodorant and how they want to gather in one
spot to watch an event like I saw them all
going crazy. It just feel so uncomfortable to me. I'm spoiled.
Via Levy on Bell's agent Adisa Bakari, his intention was

(01:24:11):
to retire a Steeler, but now there's no deal. The
practical reality is this now makes it more likely that
Levan will be Leban's last season as a Steeler. It
became clear the Steelers want to play pay the position,
not the player. Um So Leveyan Bell is gonna remain
with the Steelers on a franchise tag basis. That's about

(01:24:33):
twelve million dollars a year guaranteed. The reported offer last
year was a five year deal with thirty million guaranteed
played in the first two years. Remember he made about
twelve million dollars last year as a franchise tag, so
had he signed it last year, he would have made
more money up front, although the Steelers would have retained
his rights. As it stands now, he'll make twenty four

(01:24:56):
million guaranteed over these first two years, and then next
year be a the agent to which he'll sign for
whatever it is guaranteed. That's your first three years of
the same type of deal. We can act like this
is something new, we can act like this is something
not fair. But the truth is that Levy on Bell
is trying to go the opposite of the market. Adrian

(01:25:20):
Peterson out of a job right now. Don't get me wrong,
Adrian Peterson's over the hill. He's had multiple knee surgeries,
plus he was kept off the field with suspension for
almost an entire season. But still he doesn't have a job.
Plenty of other running backs are working for peanuts, and
though he may well be the best in the league,
the best in the league does not pay above running
back salary. Weing go around and around and around around,

(01:25:45):
all we want, all we want um, But the truth
is that twelve million dollars to million dollars to fourteen
million dollars is guaranteed is about what top running backs
are worth. Everybody gets paid for the position, not for

(01:26:08):
the player. That's just the way football works. And if
you want to get if you really want to get
down to it, if he was truly getting paid by
the position, they would have said, hey, look we're gonna
pay you a couple million and bringing a couple of
other guys and do it by committee. I think Lady
on Bell is awesome, but I think he's overvaluing how

(01:26:29):
awesome he is because he's at a position which it
hasn't been eliminated, but it isn't as important as it
used to be. It's like the checker at a grocery store.
Do you guys ever do that? Will you do it yourself?
Like wow, this is not that hard. I this is

(01:26:54):
not really that hard, the putting the stuff in, But
the the grocery store clerk doesn't actually usually bag the
groceries all themselves either. They usually have somebody else, a
kid do that. It's not that you don't need a
grocery store clerk. You do. You got a big basket
full of stuff, plus somebody to enter in their code
because you forgot your card. To save you some money, right,

(01:27:15):
they enter in their code, so their gas is always
super cheap, but their value it's been diminished. Travel agents
haven't gone away, but their value in many ways it's
been a minister you have to for a travel agent.
It's only now if you go overseas or some some

(01:27:35):
you know, tour or some big trip. Because if I'm
just flying out to the East coast, like dude, I
go on to Expedia, Kayak orbits, Priceline whatever, and I
just entered in and I try and find the cheapest
thing possible. That's what running back is. There's still play.
Taxis are still making plenty of money, you know, but

(01:27:59):
Uber has cut into the profits, cut into the ability.
I'll tell what Uber has really hurt is, uh, the
luxury service. Luxury car service. Right, because you can go
uber X how You're like, ah, I don't really have
to plan it in advance and set it all up.
You might be taxi guy, you might be Uber guy
for short trips, but for luxury service, like, you better

(01:28:21):
be really good, you better have the accounts already, and
you will will better be willing to make a deal.
It's running backs are. When I grew up, every team
was identified by their running back. Cowboys were Tony Dorset,
Bears were Walter Payton, Rams were Eric Dickerson that the
Raiders were Marcus Allen and then Bow Jackson. Seahawks were

(01:28:45):
Kurt warm At Steve Largent. They said Kurt Warren, the
other Kurt Black Kurt Warner. There are very few exceptions
to that. Now everybody's identified by their quarterback. Laban is
not one to accept it. That's fine, but he's not
going to change the course of history. Oh, soccer guy,

(01:29:09):
I love soccer, guy, soccer guys very much in denial.
Women's soccer, men's soccer, two totally different things. By the way,
because the best female athletes in our country do play
soccer or volleyball or basketball. By the way, the Serena dominance,

(01:29:30):
I know Serena lost in the finals. That actually kind
of helps my argument with soccer. Serena Williams dad is
was a genius. He saw that he had two burgeoning
athletes and he put him in a sport to which
was a country club sport. Look around. Tell me how
what other inner city girls from Compton she was they

(01:29:51):
were competing against They weren't. So it wasn't just in
terms of toughness. This toughness, intelligence, athleticism, all it takes
to be a great athlete. But you're also not competing
against the uber elite athletes for women. The best athletes
are learning playing the w n b A or play soccer,
and so she's not. It's almost not a fair fight

(01:30:12):
that she's competing against. You know, she compete against great
athletes from other countries. But the United States don't anybody
like her because all the great female athletes and they
play w n B A, they can make a ton
of money and they don't have the the don't have
the ability. There's not They're not people whose parents pick
up a tennis racket at a young age. That's what
it is with soccer. Look around the NFL, look around

(01:30:36):
the NBA, and think to yourself, for guyless of size
and speed, If you want to go small, I'll give
you Nate Robinson. You want to go medium, I'll give
you a Tavon Austin, Or I'll give you Odell Beckham Jr.
Do you think anybody would be better on across than
Lebron James all that pushing and shoving Billy to elevate.

(01:30:57):
Come on, dude, right right. It's like, oh, you don't
understand the skill it takes. No, No, I understand the
skilled soccer I'm not I'm not diminishing that, okay, But
but if you're a great athlete in basketball or football
generally it's generally not always. You have really good hand

(01:31:19):
eye coordination, you have very good athletics senses. You were
going to be a good athlete regardless of the sport
to which you chose. So if it was soccer and
it was trained at a younger age, I mean, dude,
I loved we had Landon donovan On. I loved him.

(01:31:40):
Lyn Donovan was awesome. He's one of the greatest soccer
players in our country's history. He's a five eight hundred
and thirty five pound dude. So you mean to tell
me that Tyreek Hill, if given similar opportunities, wouldn't be
a better soccer player. Well, day, Julian Edelman Wes Welker

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hmm um. Some dudes just still can't get over something,
so they kind of sliding on in there, slide of
on the on in there, um and and even when
it's kind of sort of slightly pertinent, they'll slide it
in there. You know. Look when you get home tonight

(01:34:05):
and you turn on political television or even mainstream news
or not even mainstream new. Whatever television you turn on,
you're going to hear about the comments are present made.
Standing next to poutin earlier today, I got the summit
going on. He was asked about something, and in it,
as he always does, he talks about how he won

(01:34:27):
and how big he won, and about who he beat
and why does he do it because he's still ain't
over how he thinks his win is being perceived. Right,
That's what Aaron Rodgers did yesterday. Rogers said a lot
of interesting things. He's playing golf at Lake Tahoe in
that tournament. Um, but he said he'd like to play

(01:34:49):
his entire career in Green Bay. I think in my
time here I realized no one is above the team.
Take a listen to the statement. It's it's it's supposed
to be humble, it's supposed to show great humility, and
really it shows that he's still ticked off. They can
trade Bred Farve, Jordy Nelson. They can resign, uh. They can.

(01:35:14):
They cannot resign to Charles Woodson or Julius Peppers. They
can make decisions that are in the best interests of
the team. It could be me at some point. You
have to be humble enough to realize that. I'd love
to be able to How many guys actually able to
pick the way they go out, you know, hardly anybody.
You have to understand it's a real possibility. But yeah,
my dream situation is to stay here in Green Bay. Well,

(01:35:35):
I mean, if you want to get down to it,
Brett Farve, they had no choice, and they had no
choice because you were there. Charles Woodson was washed, so
too is Julius Peppers. Why did you throw Jordy Nelson there? Right?
Like Charles Woodson's the first ballot Hall of Famer, Julius

(01:35:55):
Peppers is a Hall of Famer. Brett Farve's a Hall
of Famer. I love Jordy Nelson. I don't know anybody
who doesn't love the Jordy Nelson story. But if you were,
it's like, if you were to line up Farv, Woodson, Peppers,
and Jordy Nelson, say which one of these is not
like the other? That would be Jordy Nelson. And the

(01:36:19):
only reason you would throw that in. Some of it
is recency bias, but I'm sure a lot of it is.
He's still mad, right, Aaron Rodgers still mad. They cut
Jordy Nelson. He doesn't understand why nobody's offered him an explanation,
because Jordy Nelson wasn't even offered a a a supreme haircut.
He just wasn't. And while most people will say that's

(01:36:45):
a bad thing, Aaron Rodgers being mad at a brand
new GM in Green Bay, that's a bad thing. Let
me tell you what's a bad thing. Aaron Rodgers being
mad is a bad thing for the rest of the league.
He plays, and he has played every game of his
career like the guy who was sitting in the green

(01:37:08):
room last Remember that, And when Aaron Rodgers sitting there
and he had a little had a little chin stubble,
short haircut, supposed to go in the top five, wanted
to be the San Francisco Forts quarterback. They took Alex
Smith and not him, and he fell all the way
to twenty four where he backed up a Brett Farm
and Brett Farm wouldn't even talk to him. Remember that.
And he has treated every opponent and even some of

(01:37:29):
his teammates and coaches like they're the ones that had
him waiting in the green room. You have to know
your guys. You have to know how to motivate them.
Some guys don't play well unless they feel completely supported
by everybody. Some guys don't play well unless they play
like it's them against the world. And that's Aaron Rodgers

(01:37:49):
Rogers being mad is a good thing for the Packers
and a bad thing for everybody else. When he feels slighted,
that's when he starts to really perform. It's happened ever
since Helly got into college, let alone got into the NFL.
Um So, Tonight's the Home Run Derby was last year

(01:38:13):
Aaron Judge's Home Run Derby? Like did he win it
last year? And the year before was John Carlos Stanton?
Does that sound Ryan? And they all do kind of
blend together. They're wearing these hats to which the All
Star Game hats have the logo of the their normal
team the colors of their normal team, only it's the

(01:38:34):
the front paneling. Two panels are white and has their logo.
Then they have their two colors. I don't understand this.
I mean I do, and I don't just wear your
regular hats. Those will sell on lids right in this
need to sell new all Star hats with an all

(01:38:54):
Star logo on them. Just sell your regular hats. How
many hats do you have, Ramo? So many? Do you only?
Do you have a Dodger's head? I do, but I
will only wear the blue hat. I won't wear other
hats like the black hat or the I won't wear
those that I wear the dodge of blue hat. That's it. Sorry, music,
I'm not sure I've ever seen you in a hat.
Do you want a hat? I do own a hat, Doug. Yeah,

(01:39:18):
I have one traditional red Angels hat. I have one
black and white California Angels hat. Uh. And then I
have a couple of like hats that aren't necessarily a
baseball hat. Sure do you guys like these All Star
game hats not necessarily? Know? But I can't honestly put

(01:39:41):
a All Star hat to memory that I've ever has
ever stood out to me. And I've been like, Wow,
that's a great looking All Star hat. I thought they
just didn't when did they? The Angels one actually kind
of works, kind of works. Trout's rocking it right now
doing on on on one of the other networks and
with the A with the red A logo and the
A on the side and the white. It kind of works.

(01:40:03):
Sometimes it just doesn't work with like I don't understand
just wear your traditional hats. I don't know. I like
the or or which you could do. I like when
they wear their their own uniforms too, you know, with
like an All Star game patch on it, but you
wear your your original uniforms. Shows the variety of different uniforms.

(01:40:25):
I like the in the NBA too. I don't like
when they go to different uniforms, like when they all
wear their own uniforms. I think that looks cool. That's
my traditional, non traditional sort of thoughts. Let's get to
David Gascon find out what else is going on sports.
What you got, David. I think we'll start things on
from the National Football Like. No deal was met today
for Levy on Bellamy franchise tag deadline, so what's coming gone?

(01:40:45):
He has a one year deal in place worth just
over fourteen and a half million dollars. Same for Cowboys
de Marcus Lawrence franchise tag for the season on him
is seventeen million dollars. LIONSG ziggy ANSA and also rams La.
Marcus Joyner also had the under a franchise tag Baltimore
Ravens running back Kenneth Dixon has been fully clear to
practice and he'll avoid the pup list for this upcoming season,

(01:41:08):
and the New York Jets have waived their thirty seven
pick overall in twenty fifteen wide receiver Devin Smith. In
Major League Baseball, starting pitchers were announced today for the
eighty ninth All Star Game. That would be National's Max
Scherzer versus Chris Sale of the Boston Red Sox. In
the NBA, Adrian Award Znowski reports Dante cunning Amazon agreed
on a deal with the San Antonio Spurs Pistons of exercise.

(01:41:30):
Your team option with Reggie Bullock will make two point
five million dollars this upcoming season. In one noted National
Hockey League, Adam Henriek has agreed on a five year
extension with the Anaheim Ducks just over twenty nine million dollars.
Who's en. He's a winger. He UH plays for the
Anaheim Ducks. He also played for the New Jersey Devils
a couple of seasons ago. UH speedy guy. He's fast.

(01:41:53):
Doesn't do a whole lot though on the defensive side
of the The transition for yes Yeah, how many hockey
players could you name? I can name a lot. You could.
You're a big hockey guy. Okay, uh, A bunch, as
they would say, a bunch year, a bunch. Jeff Passon

(01:42:14):
joins us, Uh, he could probably name every Major League
baseball player. He's a Major League Baseball columns for Yahoo Sports.
Check out his Yahoo Sports Major League Baseball podcast It's Awesome.
He hosts features some of the biggest names around the
league in baseball. Jeff, there's seems to be renewed vigor
with the Machado trade talk. At least that's what Twitter says.

(01:42:36):
What does Jeff Paston say. It's almost like, and I
wrote this earlier this week, it's almost like the Orioles
have this sense of urgency that teams think they're going
to pull the trigger within the next twenty four hours,
and then it just slows down to a grind and look, man,
name Machado's movie. He has to move this because the

(01:42:59):
Orioles are going to a whole lot more in return
than they would if they held onto him. Gave him
the qualifying offer and got like the thirty first pick
in the draft this year, which is what the alternate
or the alternative is, so he's going somewhere. I just
don't know if it's gonna be Los Angeles or Milwaukee
or Philadelphia. Those seem to be the three favorites at
this point of the teams that have the greatest need

(01:43:19):
that can offer the most in return. But he will
be moving. I just don't know if it's an imminent
thing at this point. And Okay, if you don't know
if it's imminent thing, can you give me a one
too three? Like two weeks ago, all of a sudden,
Arizona hopped into it. The Dodgers have been in the hunt.
There's others that are reportedly in the hunt. If you
had to give a most likely to third most likely destination,

(01:43:41):
wherever it be? You know, I keep hearing It's interesting
you ask different people, uh in different groups of people,
and they say different things. You know, general managers around
the game tend to think that it's gonna be Milwaukee
because the Brewers have arguably the best talent that they
can ship back to Baltimore Orioles in terms of major

(01:44:02):
League ready players. But you also think that Philadelphia with
a guy like the donas Medina, you know, hard throwing
right hander could be in there, or or the Dodgers.
In the question where the Dodgers is more, are they
willing to give up alent a year after going getting
you Darvish for Willie Calhoun and a couple other prospects.
Are they're going to make the same type of trade
where they give up using the lp as or Dustin

(01:44:24):
may or Gavin Luck And I think there's there's hesitancy
from people and thinking that the Dodgers are willing to
give up that premium talent, but the Orioles want and
return and frankly deserve in return because Manny Machado is
one of the best players in baseball. Seattle's last four
in row, they get swept, sweep swept by the Rockies
in Inner League. But they're a team. The run differentials

(01:44:45):
actually minus two for the year. This despite the fact
that they're fifty eight and thirty nine. So anyone who
follows baseball would say, well, that will eventually the record
will eventually even out if their run differential remains the same.
Really good teams do what Houston does to you, where
they just beat it to a pulp. Is that what
we're seeing here at the end of the first half
regression towards the mean hundred percent, and I've been waiting

(01:45:08):
more than half the seasons for it. And you know,
I go on the radio in Seattle every couple of
weeks and they call me the wet blanket because I
keep saying that I'm waiting for the Mariners to show
their true colors. And I think we saw it towards
the end of the first half. But the fact is, Doug,
those nineteen games over five hundred that they've got right now,
those are in the bank, man, like they're they're not

(01:45:30):
going to lose those, and so they're in a great
position going forward, even though after you know, nine seven games, uh,
or rather after ninety seven games, they've got fifty eight wins.
If they go five hundred over the rest of the season,
that's a ninety win team, and that's the team that
probably is going to make the playoffs. But Oakland is
only four games behind them at this point, and the

(01:45:52):
A's are playing really good baseball, and so I think
that I think Seattle is in a good position, but
I still think that they need to strengthen themselves. They
are getting Robinson to know back, but the question is
where he's gonna play is a big one. They're keeping
the Gordon in the second base, so is can gonna
play first base? You can shift over and play some
pH which would forced Nelson cruise into the field, which

(01:46:12):
you know, Scott Service, the manager there, doesn't want to
do and Nelson Crews himself doesn't want to do either.
There are a lot of questions with the Mariners coming forward.
There are a lot of questions. I have a question
for you, Mookie Bets or Mike Trout who's had a
more impressive first half season? And I asked you that
because I know that baseball guys you don't believe in

(01:46:33):
lineup protection. But I mean I saw u stat where
Mike Trout has has has made more played appearances with
nobody on than anyone else in baseball. I mean, look,
Upton is a nice player, but pool holes is, I mean,
you know pools Is, He's on base less than thirty
of the time. He's a shell of his former self.
I just like, this is the dude that's got to

(01:46:54):
do it all on his own, as opposed to Mookie Betts,
who you know, he's got J D. Martinez, who might
will also be the a L m v P hitting
behind him, a couple of spots behind him who has
been more impressive in the first half of season. To you, well,
it's interesting because you saw sort of the end of
the first half, the Angels had Trout hitting third, and
they moved to Angels and Simmons, who has had a
great first half, up to the number two spot in

(01:47:15):
the lineup. And I think that was a good thing
to get guys on base for Mike Trout. Uh. And
I want to throw Josie Ramirez in the mix there
if you look just at wins above replacements, and I
know that that's a flawed metric, but it tries to
capture a guy's overall contributions offensively, defensively and running. And
Osi Ramirez is right on Mike Trout field, so the

(01:47:37):
three of them are having historically good seasons. I still
think that Trout is the first half m VP in
the American League. I'm the guys who thinks that you
give the m v P to the best player, not
the best player on the best team. If you're looking
in that regard, uh, then I think Betts and Ramiro's
both have excellent cass best missed a couple of weeks,
but his numbers have been utterworldly this year and a

(01:48:00):
fun baseball player to watch man and getting to see
him trout and judge in the same outfield in the
All Star Game tomorrow. It's gonna be a pretty cool
thing because we're seeing these guys at the absolute height
of their powers and it's something to behold. Okay, was
it Mike? Is it Mike Matheeni's fault that the St.
Louis Cardinals has dropped off the last couple of years.

(01:48:22):
I think you can certainly blame Mike Matheny for some
of it. The culture there in St. Louis has not
been good. The players have not been on board with
their manager. And look, all of us know that when
you have a boss who either you don't respect or
don't believe in his vision, you might not work. It
is hard for him. Now. I'm not saying that the

(01:48:42):
Cardinals slacked off by any means, but it makes things
far more difficult. And when you have that environment in
which you want to play for the manager and which
you want to do something great, not just for your
own sake ancestory he made sake, but to make him happy,
that's a lot more conducive to wining them what the
Cardinals have, and I think that the fact that they

(01:49:02):
are five team is reflective not just of their talent,
but of their attitude towards their leader. What what pitching
did the Yankees go out and get, Well, there's not
a whole lot. I mean, that's the issue. Do you
really feel like going and getting Jay Happ is going
to be the difference maker? I almost wonder if the
Yankees can look internally and see just the Sheffield who's
pitched very well in the minor leagues. You know, they

(01:49:24):
got him the Andrew Miller deal a couple of years
ago from the Indians, and if he's going to be
the solution as much as anybody else, because right now,
there isn't somebody you can put alongside Luis Savarino and say,
this guy is going to be a huge contributor for
us down the stretch and somebody in whom we believe
to help us win playoff games. The Yankees bullpen is
really their strength and their core in addition to you know,

(01:49:47):
a home run hitting bonanza of a lineup. And if
the Yankees are going to compete with the Astros and
the Red Sox is going to be because of the
lineup in the pen, not because of their starters. What
happens with Jacob deGrom? I mean like, look, you know,
the Mets you can build around him or you can
what do you what happens the Jacob gone? Does he
remain a met the remainder of the season. Well, I
think a lot of that depends on the mess ability

(01:50:09):
to negotiate a contract extension with him and his agent
Brodie van Wagen, and essentially said that today, you know,
Jacob has expressed interest in staying with the Mess and
signing long term with them, and if not, he'd like
to be traded. And it wasn't you know, he went
out of his way to say this is not a
trade request, but more a sense of where he is
and what his feelings are on the situation. I understand

(01:50:31):
that if you're the Mets, though, it's difficult when you
have him and Noah synder Guard to get rid of
either of those guys. And and you know, if you're
going to do that, you might as well just rebuild
all the way. And and that's a tough pill to
swallow for a team that's got Michael Comporto and got
Brandon Nemo and got guys who have talent and who

(01:50:52):
have the ability to be good major league players in
the core of a contending team. The question is, and
the Mets willing to go out and spend the money
that they need to supplement them and spend it intelligence
because they have spent money. That money that they spent
this offseason on top Rasier, on j Bruce and on
Anthony Swarzak is swirling down a toilet and clean somewhere
right now. All right, the Washington Nationals, what happens with

(01:51:14):
them second half of the season. You know, they had
a player's only meeting and they saw some good out
of it, but now they're stuck at five. You know
the s is going tomorrow in the All Star Game.
He's he's he's one of the few guys that lives
up to that contract. Um, no doubt. Call it for me,
what happens second half of the season. I think the
Nationals are going to turn things around. And I say

(01:51:36):
that out of of no grand knowledge that I have
of something changing there. I just see how much talent
is on that roster. Let's just go around the diamond
Doug third base, Anthony Random All Star caliber player, short stop,
Trade Turner, all Star second base Daniel Murphy, a guy
who's been one of the best sitors in baseball for
the last couple of years. Uh, you know, first base.

(01:51:59):
They can rotate them on Adams and Reynolds. Uh you
know they they've got Ryan Zimmern in there too. In
the outfield. Want Soto may win Rookie of the Year
in the National League, Bryce Harper, I mean, there's just
talent Adam eating, there's talent everywhere up and down that roster,
and they're under five hundreds. And it foggles my mind.

(01:52:19):
I have asked more people here, how is this team
under five hundred? And they just all shake their heads
and nobody has a good answer to it. And that's
the most frustrating part of the National season, that there's
so much talent on that team and they still stink. YEP. Now,
if we talk about all the time, you nailed it,
great stuff, Jeff, Jeff enjoy enjoy the home run derby.

(01:52:39):
Although start a home run derby's better than the end
end of home run derby. Just like, let's just get
this thing over with. Of course, tomorrow's gonna be gonna
be a great day. Download his podcast. It's Yahoo Sports
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the handball call called on Croatia. Now they went to
the video review, and the problem with video review is

(01:53:46):
it's like any sort of video. It only tells you
black and white. It does not tell you new ones.
And it's one of those like you do almost yearn
for the days where, Hey, the ref missed the handball.
They missed it initially, didn't miss it upon video review,
overturned it had a penalty kick, and France went up

(01:54:07):
two to one and never gave up that lead, never
gave up that lead. But that is one of those
ones to which you're like, look, I I've long been
a proponent of instant replay. I've often thought of it as, hey,
you wouldn't fly a plane without radar, would you? Right?
And you just wouldn't. You don't even want to live

(01:54:28):
without air conditioning, let alone GPS. Why wouldn't you you?
Why wouldn't you try and get it right? But his
sport has always been about getting it right. It's been
a little bit about a human error. And even if
it wasn't a human error, even if you saw the handball,
there are some handballs that are not like others. The
problem is video doesn't see it that way. Summers here,

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National Football League DUG franchise tag. Deadline came and it went,

(01:55:16):
and Steelers running back Levian Bell no long term deal
for him. So he's got a one year contract in
place that they'll play pay him just over fourteen and
a half million dollars for this upcoming season, billion dollars
his agent billion dollars today. His intentions was to retire
as a Steeler, but now there's no deal. The practical

(01:55:36):
reality is that this now like will be Levian's last
season as a Steeler. End quote. I just I can't
get worked up over it, right, I just can't. I
like Levian Bell. I think he's really really good. There's
so much drama with the two stars skill position players.
I still think they're a flawed team, not replacing Ryan
Shay's here. I think Ben Roethlisberger is what he used
to be. I'm think an offensive line is as good

(01:55:58):
as we think um and I don't feel bad for
a dude that's made twenty four million dollars guaranteed to
play running back the past two years. I don't. I
hope Levy shows up on time so he's in tip
top shape. Once they started the season, one of the
reasons they they fired Todd Haley was he didn't get
the ball to Levy on enough. That that's more. That's

(01:56:20):
more about respect than what you make salary. Was give
me some numbers real quick. On Bell last season, he
was first and Carrie's third in yards, third in touchdowns rushing.
He was also tenth and receptions. He had six hundred
fifty five yards receiving and also two touchdowns his way
Uh switching on over quickly to Major League Baseball. On
Jacob Acgraham's agent told Ken Rosenthal that they want to

(01:56:42):
get something done, and something done soon. His agents said
Jacob has expressed interest in exploring a long term partnership
that would keep him in a Mets uniform. They all
want to stay for life. They all want to stay
for life until you know what they really want. Money
all about the show me the money, Show me the money,

(01:57:05):
Show me the money. Who gets dealt first? Him or
Sagard Uh had been healthy. Um, you gotta cut his hair, right,
that's what you're saying. Got to cut your hair. At
the opposite of the Sampson thing opposite the Sampson thing
you care much about the Home Run Derby? Don't care
at all, not at all, not even a little bit, right,

(01:57:25):
Can I at least give you the rundown? Okay? Jeseus
Aguilar never bet against Jesus Sorry. Bryce Harper versus Freddie Freeman,
Freddie Freeman Almandina High School, my brother and sisters High School,
go ahead. Max Munsey versus Heavier Bias, Max muncyve bios okay.

(01:57:46):
And Alex Bregman versus Kyle Schwarburg Schwarps Schwarber Schwarps. They
should have Kyle Schwarber shag out there. We can all
just laugh at Uh, Kyle, You're not gonna be at all.
I would just let's just have him shagged by himself
so we can laugh at the fact that he gets
a bad jump on balls. Do you do you at
least like anyone to win this thing? No? I don't care.

(01:58:07):
You don't care at all. I've been to Home Run
Derby's like, I don't care. Does that mean you won't
watch it? Won't watch it not at all? Would you
rather watch the home Run Derby or a People World
Cup action? People? I love watching the people World Cup.
Don't take please, don't take anything I've said about soccer.
I mean I I love watching every second of the
World Cup, watch as many games as possible. I just like, look,

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until we started finding a way to get our best
athletes to play soccer, we're not gonna be able to
play against other nations best best athletes. I got you
not to understand it. We'll stick with Major League Baseball
Final one here Man Day Matchando has reportedly played his
final game with the Baltimore Orioles. Alright, Arnold Jason Starks said,
it looks like there's a handshake agreement with somebody on

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a deal. Who it is, we do not know yet
end quote handshake agreement because it a handshaker. Wasn't one
of those shug things right where they did the handshake
and the hug or did they do like a Reggie
Miller and then do like a Michael Jackson type of deal.
I don't know. Are you spitting your hand and then shake?
I'm gonna say he's going through the Dyer's too. There's
there's been Dodgers, Dodgers, it's been Dodged for a while.

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They don't have Corey Seger. We don't know if his
sered probably moves the second when he comes back. I'm
gonna say, Dodgers get out there and pressed that the press.
Brian Kenny Jones joins us tomorrow. So does Adam Jones,
not pac Man Jones. But I gotta ask him how
many times when he when people hear his names Adam Jones, like, damn,
you knocked that dude out in the airport last week
and you had to drop your popeyees chicken. Did you

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guys see that video? Yeah? Who wins the home run derby?
I'm betting on Jesus just one. He's really good to
his name is Jesus. Boomers not calling it anymore, right?
They they That's good? That was that was That was
enough of that one. But how many times can you
say home run? Sound excited? It's actually a really ride

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cold experence mark word of way, the marker and on
sudden stood