December 27, 2025 • 54 mins
Dan presides over The Danette Awards for the Least and Most Valuable Danette, as well as the MVBRG (Most Valuable Back Room Guy). Covino and Rich jump in to celebrate Christmas on Dan's behalf and dive into classic Christmas movies & classic sports clips! Will Covino's "future in-laws" have the patience for 'It's a Wonderful Life?’ Plus, something is driving Boise radio wild! Then Jonas Knox & Brady Quinn, on loan from FOX Sports Radio’s ‘2 Pros and a Cup of Joe,’ finish off the week with former Notre Dame QB Quinn lamenting the loss of the USC/Notre Dame football rivalry.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Voting is over. It's time.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Well, we're getting to that moment of the most Valuable
Least Valuable Danet. They're already screwing things up the backroom guys. Mario,
whose job is to direct the show. Also he is
the reigning most Valuable backroom Guy, and then he says, oh,
why don't we wait to reveal the results? And I go,
it's my show and I need you to give me
(00:30):
those results. And then he's going to have to give
his trophy most Valuable Backroom Guy to the newest winner.
Also most Valuable Least Valuable dan have that coming up
eight seven to seven to three. DP Show email address
dpat Danpatrick dot com, Twitter handle it DP Show. Reggie
Miller will stop buy in a little bit. Good morning.
(00:50):
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Peacock's Seaton Poll. Question for the final hour of the
(02:02):
Final Day for us this holiday season.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Final Day, Final Show, Final, What let's see we got
up there right now for the holidays. You prefer to
host or travel right now? Sixty percent prefer to host.
And then we also have who's more to blame for
the USC.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Notre Dame rivalry going away?
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Notre Dame has fifty eight percent of that's great.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
What are we going to go with the final hour?
Speaker 5 (02:34):
I got one here.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
From Paul who is asking if Philip Rivers is helping
his Hall of Fame chances or hurting his Hall of
Fame chances.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
I think he's doing both because he's helping right now,
but by delaying five years, like he's going to be
up against Aaron Rodgers probably, Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 6 (02:56):
I think he's lightly helping his Hall of Fame case
because he doesn't have a big hook besides numbers and longevity.
He doesn't have a Super Bowl a lot of moments.
But I think this puts a pretty good spin on
the end of his career and people will remember that
in five years.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, not huge. It's a good story. Good story.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
You just you know, you wonder what quarterbacks are going
to be retiring and what kind of numbers are they
going to have. Are they going to have an MVP
and or a Super Bowl. I'm assuming Matthew Stafford the
way he's played this year, is going to want to
play at least another year. I don't know about Aaron Rodgers,
So you've got to factor that in as well. That
now you've moved the clock, you know, it's five five
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more years. By the way, it's a meat Tuesday. We
just had some biscuits and gravy. We also have steak
and eggs, bacon, hash browns. Who has it better.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Than nobody back in college.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Patty and Louisville. Hey Patty Dan, longtime, first time. What's
on your mind?
Speaker 5 (03:56):
How are you the only one that ets the biscuits
and gravy?
Speaker 7 (03:58):
Right?
Speaker 5 (03:59):
You have to open in the biscuit.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Oh the dnez did not open the biscuit. No, Marvin,
just ate the biscuit. Oh Marvin, what's wrong with you? Oh? Well,
thank you, Patty.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
I didn't know we were going to be educated in
how to eat biscuits and gravy.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
Yes, Paul, as a person who believes in personal freedom
when eat. Whilst eating, some people chop up their.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Biscuit, Okay, just thrown out.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Okay, that's fine, that's fine.
Speaker 7 (04:30):
Yes, Tom, I picked up the biscuit like there was
a rock on the floor, and I just dipped in
the gravy and just held it in my head like
I was holding a ball.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (04:37):
I had no interest in opening up.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Uh, Mario, if you could please give me the results
of the most valuable least valuable DNA.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
And is there any uh possible ability that you were
throwing things at curveballs.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
At Mario last minute to affect his voting.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
He was told, I tell him, don't produce a show,
just direct a show. And here's Anthony, who is on
the short list for Most Valuable back Room.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yes, he's made the first round to cut. He has
made the.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
First round of cuts. That's Anthony, the youngest member of
our staff.
Speaker 6 (05:18):
Yes, paul would Anthony be the first ever rookie to
win it?
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Wow. This is his first year.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
And Mario has his trophy because he was the most
Valuable BRG last year. And it's right there if you're
watching on Peacock and Mario will bring that out. I
believe when you know what Mariol, Mario, why don't you
bring that out? Because I want to introduce this year's
(05:48):
most Valuable Backroom Guy, Toddy. I'm gonna let you guess
who you think I'm picking for the most Valuable backroom Guy.
Speaker 7 (05:57):
I am going to go with Dylan for that.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Dylan, all right, Marvin Dylan, all right, Paulie, I'm pretty
sure you're going with Rob Rob.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Okay seatan oh man.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
You know what I'm just gonna say. Uh, I'm gonna
throw it out there. I'm gonna say Ray, Ray, you
can't say it. Laugh you can't say it, then laugh
at your own joke.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Okay, Jesus go.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Cutthroat all right.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I'm sorry, Ray, that was a very nice you know.
I always got to go for the joke.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
I'm sorry. It's a weakness that I have.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I have to go for it. That's Ray. You're very great, important.
You're my MVP RG. Okay every day.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Now, Anthony who just started with us full time, he's
on the short list. Dylan has done a wonderful job
as well. Rob was sneaky great, does a lot of things.
The newsletter very very underrated and very understated. Ray done
a great job. Ray with the gambling podcast. There's just
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so many candidates weeks. Who's our cameraman?
Speaker 5 (07:06):
You know?
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Uh, Eric the big german, all the things that he
did driving cross country. The most valuable back room guy
for this year is Jay Eric.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
It's like Leicester City. Yes, this guy, this guy's been
down twenty.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Eight three his whole life. Yes, so oh, let's go
Jay in the building. I know he's in the back
working smoking, he's smoking outside. He might be smoking a heater.
But if excepting on on his behalf, if we can,
if we could get in touch with him. You would
have thought that Mario would be producing this where we
would have Jay here to accept his.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Award Vegas and they have Ja on the board.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Jay was not on the board. And I did say
to the big german. And by the way, Mario was
so sure that it was going to be Dylan. Mario
betta pie to the face that it was going to
be Dylan. So Mario not only loses the BRG trophy,
he will get a pie to the face coming up
(08:21):
at the end of the show. So if we can
locate j and it was probably outside.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
You know, that's really unfortunate is that one of the
brg's had to go get Jay to bring him out
here to be like here, you're the person that won.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
You go in there comes see that's a.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Guyay, all right, Jay, come over here and get your trophy.
Oh what a great moment, What a stunner. Look at
that there. You know, buddy, am you're welcome Jay there.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
He is so many newports tonight. Yeah, all the newports.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Cigarettes for everybody. Thank you. Jay. Jay did a wonderful
job this year.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
And uh, right on cue they have to get him
from back he's out there working and uh he of
course is the brother of the big German, Eric, the
big german.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
So uh, here we go. Yes, it was busy tarring
the roof.
Speaker 7 (09:24):
That's why he was late to accept the award.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
We had to get him down with the ladder and everything. Wow.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Okay, so Mario, you're an idiot.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Okay. I just opened the least Valuable dannette. There's nothing
in here, and then I opened the most Valuable dannette.
Then there's two things in here that is classic. Okay,
all right, what do you what do you like? This
is why you you're getting a piety. I can give
you a pie of the face right now. I wish
(10:01):
you could be more like Jay.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Probably should have that m VBRG after Uh okay, do.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
We want to do least Valuable Dan after start Todd? Yeah,
you guess.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I thought it was that you're announcing.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Just right to it, Todd.
Speaker 7 (10:19):
I'm gonna go myself for least Valuable down.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Net okay, uh Setan, I'm gonna say me okay, Marvin.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
Me.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Paul.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
I think Todd will win the award.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Paul finished fourth, Least Valuable, Marvin third, Setan finished second day.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I lost.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
It wasn't that close. Fritzy won by twenty five hundred vote.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
Haters gonna hate. Maybe it's a good thing.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
I don't know what's now we get here, we go
the envelope for the most value. Dan Paulie was last,
Marvin third, the winner by a mere one hundred votes.
(11:27):
Franca the double, Yeah wow, you did the daily double
again and the loan.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Which once again cancels each other.
Speaker 7 (11:40):
Oute. So I'm just kind of a nomn.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
You're a you're you're a It's all about content. You're
really good and really bad.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Give it and take it away. That's what happens.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Yes, but Mary'll take that as a compliment.
Speaker 7 (11:51):
Maybe what the best and the most and least?
Speaker 5 (11:54):
I don't know what to I'm trying to figure out
how to process that.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
That you do really really good things and then you
do some bad things.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
There are extremes of a people in about my contribution.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
You're kind of like a home run hitter who strikes out.
You're Adam Dunn or Dave Kingman a love more hate
him thing with that. Yeah, you either hit a home
run or you strike out. You're are Pete Alonzo.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
How's that always want to be compared to Peter lams.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
If you take out Ethan, who won back to back mvds. Somehow,
Todd has won five of the last six.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Congratulations Todd. It's a pretty amazing run.
Speaker 7 (12:34):
It's like a dynasty.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
I'm gonna like ten An all of a sudden.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Yeah, but you're making an impact matters. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
People also won four of the last five lvds. It's
basically just a Todd Fritz competition because he went both
of them every single year.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
It was, you know, the least Valuable danet. So you
could see the voting and it went up like giving
the middle finger, like Todd's votes were so much that
it was like the other dan outs are here, and
then it went straight up like you were giving the
middle finger to all those.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Who voted for you.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
Todd.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
Fantastic.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Yeah, oh so much drama.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
I'm exhausted, but I still got forty five minutes every day,
super professional. Yes, thank you, thank you, Todd. Reggie Miller
will join us coming up. We'll get some more phone calls.
We will also have Todd's holiday names, yes, so he
can get a start to next year's Least Valuable dan
at and we will have the that will go to now,
(13:34):
anything that happens from here on goes on next year's resume.
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Hey, why don't you enjoy your holidays? Baham bug to
all and Merry Christmas Eve. It's Steve Covino, just a
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So be safe out there.
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Like of all days, right who wants a soggy, gross Christmas?
Speaker 5 (15:17):
Even Christmas dreaming of a saggy ass, gross mon suit
of a cruiz. You have an excuse to stay inside
and watch movies. I agree, Sam.
Speaker 10 (15:28):
Until I was a homeowner, I think anyone that's a homeowner.
Anytimes there's like bad weather conditions, you're like, I don't
want to see a leak or something. You know, there's
always something that goes wrong, And Kavin will tell you
there's always something.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
Yeah, my sister's place already leaking on the west side
because of all the rain.
Speaker 9 (15:46):
And I'm sorry looking at movies. You know, we got
to talk some movies in just the moment. But I
do want to thank everyone for hanging out with us.
Richie mentioned the affiliates. I want to shout out all
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(16:06):
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(16:30):
major this hour the biggest stories in sports and pop culture.
We decide with spot if they're midweek or major. And
right now again, I'm in Idaho with my future in laws.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Rich What does that mean? I mean, that's what is that?
That's a big giveaway. I don't know what are you
supposed to say? My girlfriend's family? There you go? Well,
future in laws would insinuate you're getting engaged. I mean,
I don't put a lot of emphasis on that. It's
just the same, really, right, I mean I would say
future in laws? Am I not?
Speaker 11 (17:04):
It's not really an expression taken a ring box, ring
box in your pocket or a potato?
Speaker 5 (17:11):
What's that under the tree? All right? So anyway, stop
sprinting rumors.
Speaker 12 (17:17):
Don't do it on Christmas though, because then you can't
take it back, because yeah, exact now.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
Future in laws. Huh, Oh my god, you're so corny.
You're just gas tradition. You're the guys. That's when you say,
that's my girlfriend's family. What do you say? You just
say it's the same, You say future in laws completely
insinuate your getting married. Just call me in laws. Then
it's like, it's fine, corny if I sit in laws,
does that mean anything? This is my girlfriend's family, right,
(17:42):
I'm here with them.
Speaker 11 (17:43):
Fox Sports Boys ninety nine point nine is going wild
right now?
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Yeah, man is getting a local boise reporter outside your house,
getting your radio host and your potato queen are getting married.
Oh wow, so her family radio a tycoon and local
potato girls Potato twenty twelve.
Speaker 9 (18:06):
So I realized that none of her family, well, not
her entire friendly, but her sister, her brother in law.
A lot of the younger people had never seen It's
a Wonderful Life, and I felt like the old guy,
like they made it seem like it was my favorite
movie and it's one.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
Up for someone, which is what I'm like, which is
what you promised to give your girlfriend in the future.
Speaker 9 (18:29):
You guys are corny, dude, so you know, I'm like, hey,
hold on, I'm not from nineteen forty six. That's when
the movie came out. It's a classic. I'm surprised you
guys have never seen it. And they made it out like, oh,
he wants us to watch it. We should watch it
for Steve. And I'm like, no, I don't know what
we hold up.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
Don't watch it for me because then I'm gonna be
insulted that you know, you're looking at your phone and
you're taking bathroom breaks and you're chatting over the movie
like I and you watch it if you want to
watch it. And I will say this, we have not
yet to watch it.
Speaker 9 (18:58):
We have not watched it, and we watched it Dave
Chappelle Special last night. But now I got all this
pressure because they are saying, yeah, we're gonna watch It's
a Wonderful Life with Steve.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
I'm like, yo, stop, what's that for me? Like, I
don't want you to do any for me. You should
have seen it a long time ago.
Speaker 10 (19:12):
So you're gonna go from Edgy Stand Up Special to
nineteen forty six black and white Christmas movie?
Speaker 9 (19:18):
Well, yeah, because it's it's a slower moving movie. And
we put that on last night, you know.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
Late at night. This cigarette smoking in both.
Speaker 10 (19:25):
Yeah, exactly, that's the only commonality. But you know, what,
can you know brings up a good point? Movies, music,
sports moments? There are things that in your mind, dude,
there's a freaking classic. How could someone not appreciate it?
But when you show it to your kids, or a
younger girlfriend or tim to be fiance, or anyone younger
(19:48):
in your life, it might not translate. And I noticed
this for the first time years ago, when my nieces
and nephew were younger.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
I was like, you guys, want to watch it? Scary movie?
And like yeah, Uncle Rich and I was like, you know,
we're gonna watch Gremlins.
Speaker 10 (20:07):
I sat down my nieces and nephew, who are now
like grown teenagers, are like, they're in college.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
But I remember when they were little.
Speaker 10 (20:14):
I thought I was going to open their eyes to
a legendary classic movie.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
I was like, dude, who thought they want they'd want
a magua for Christmas? Yo. They were like, Uncle, Rich,
you sucked. This is the cheesiest movie ever. Think. They
booed me and I asked night. As I watched it,
I was like, oh my god, this is bad. It's
like I.
Speaker 9 (20:39):
Stated once dated, it's slow, the special effects are terrible. Well,
go back once in a while, and you looks like
it looks like something from the early eighties, Like blurry,
it came in blurry. You watch something from your childhood
that you know how movies coming high there for and okay, came.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
In blurry eighties blurry.
Speaker 10 (20:56):
Watch something from back then and you have such fun
memories of something that was complete trash. Like I remember
going back and watching reruns of shows that I loved
as a kid. I'll name two of them that are
garbage that as a little boy, Rich Davis me loved you.
Speaker 9 (21:15):
But truthfully, the shows you're about to mention were garbage.
Then you're just a little kid. They'll see your your
expectations were low.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Yeah, but I mean these were successful shows that rent.
It's classics that stand the test of time. Perfect Strangers
is not a class what I coffee show from the eighties.
Speaker 10 (21:30):
I thought Belki and Larry making Bibby Bopkas was hilarious.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
It was not. Yeah, because your nose pick an eight
year old? What do you know, Willie? I thought ALF
was amazing.
Speaker 10 (21:40):
I went back and I watched an episode of ALF
once and I'm like, this is nonsense.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Most of us thought that was cheesy when it was on. Yeah,
yeah it was. It was cheesy. Difference, but cheezy then
means even cheesier. Now, I'll give you classics then should
stand the test of time, but not all do. And
that's how I feel about Like, dude, Back to the
Future came out nineteen eighty five, it's still great today. Yeah,
because classics stand in the test of time.
Speaker 9 (22:06):
It's a Wonderful Life came out in nineteen forty six,
and it's in black and white, and I think younger
eyes see anything like that and they're immediately tuned out
because it's not crystal clear clarity. It's just it looks old,
it looks slow, and they don't it doesn't register to their.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
Weenial social media eyes.
Speaker 9 (22:25):
You know, it just looks they won't even give it
a chance, is really what my point is, even if
you hold it up.
Speaker 10 (22:31):
My kids liked Goonies and I thought that was cool.
They were like, yeah, this is cool because it's an
adventure kid's fun.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
Time fun movie. Yeah. I'm not surprised by that, but
I'm gonna upset a lot of people when I say this.
Kids want fast moving, fast acting. Let me upset a
lot of people, the nerds out there. When I was younger,
I was certainly not the coolest kid, but my family
was not a Star Wars family. Still aren't. We're just
(22:57):
not a Star Wars family.
Speaker 10 (22:58):
My wife likes Star Wars, but growing up, my brother
and sister and my family we weren't into it. So
when I was older, I investigated Star Wars because everyone
I knew was like, do yes, Star Wars the best?
If you watched the original nineteen seventy something Star Wars
now for the first time, I promise you you'd be
(23:19):
terribly disappointed.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
No, No, that's blasphemy. Yeah, man, I don't know, class
extend to test the time. That's my theory. They were
so ahead of their time with those movies.
Speaker 11 (23:30):
Rich that that's one of the reasons why the acting storyline,
the special effect.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
Are you kidding, Dan, it's not. I think you also
have to explain to whoever's watching, like you have to realize, guys, yeah,
this might look a little dated, but these were the innovators,
the pioneers, the first imagine seeing something like this for
the first when we were kids.
Speaker 10 (23:49):
The cool the coolest special effect when we were kids
was large March's face like we've come along, We've come
a long way.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
I'm not saying Star Wars is bad. What I'm saying
is watching it. You kind of did.
Speaker 10 (24:00):
Say watching that, you know, you know what. I guess
You're right, I do. I did that gets something. It
stinks watching it now. You can't get through the first one.
It stinks, it does.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
I think it's just it's bored by it.
Speaker 11 (24:12):
There there was more storylines going on in older films,
and so to Covino's point, Uh, I think it was
Coco Melon where I read that they changed the shot
like eight times in a few seconds. Because the kids
nowadays they need the screen to constantly change.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
You're right, Danny g there's the show Coco Melon.
Speaker 10 (24:32):
If you got little kids, Coco Melons like a very
popular kid show. They change frames I believe every three
seconds something absurd where.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
It's the same because the kid's attentions like boom bam.
Speaker 9 (24:44):
You know when I started noticing this, I remember showing
my daughter Mary Poppins and I.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
Think a kid's gonna chim Chimaru. Yeah, Like, it just
felt slow. It felt so snow and old.
Speaker 9 (24:55):
And it was that song that the Manhatter guy singing
when he's floating around. By the time that song came on,
my kid was sleeping. And you know what, They.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Start off those older movies with the credits, so the
kids bored before the movie even start.
Speaker 10 (25:10):
Dude, my kids love Wicked. We went to go see Wicked.
Obviously as a good dad, I'm like, let's watch Wizard
of Oz. They loved the Wizard of Oz. But I
had to fast forward the first minute and a half
because it's opening credits of who's in the movie.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
There's like two minutes of opening credits, Like is it
what are the words? I see? What are why words?
When does it start? I'm like, oh, geez, you know
you know what? They need to start backwards?
Speaker 12 (25:38):
Doing like you know how with podcasts you can listen
at like one and a half or two time speed.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
They need to do that. With old movies you need
to be able to like there needs to be away.
You want the mar what the more est man in town? Yeah?
Speaker 12 (25:54):
Right, and then it's just everything moves it two times
the speed and you can listen to it and then
it's like it's over in half the time.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Oh, they need You're right, spud.
Speaker 10 (26:01):
They like a podcast or like a I know a
lot of baseball networks like s n Y and Yes
for the Yankees could be known.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
I'm sure Spectrum for the Dodgers.
Speaker 10 (26:10):
That's in mess In mess In all the they do
the like a two and a half three hour game.
They do some type of like cutout, They cut out
the fat and it's like a half hour game. Yeah,
the condensed version is great. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (26:22):
So based on this, you know, what do you think about?
It's a wonderful life? Is it a fail? Am I
setting myself up for failure? Are they going to be bored?
Seeing through younger eyes? Does it not stand to test
the time?
Speaker 5 (26:33):
Beautiful?
Speaker 9 (26:33):
I look at it, I really look at it like
a timeless story of life lessons and what the holiday
really means. And I think classics never die. I think
it's the Wizard of Oz of Christmas movies. I really do.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
But then again, I don't want that pressure and vouching
for it, and I don't want them to be bored,
and it's all my fault, and I don't want to
be booed the.
Speaker 9 (26:53):
Way your nieces and nephews booed you Rich when you
show them Gremlins. But think about this, if certain movies
and even to us, certain movies right that maybe your
mom watched or boring to us, like, man, I don't know.
Do those sports highlights that we cherished, that we saw,
that we watched, that we grew up thinking we're the coolest.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
Do those games? Do those moments also not translate because
they look so old.
Speaker 9 (27:16):
You could see a highlight from the nineties and it
looks old and and blurry, and a kid today might
just think, yeah, that's weak. Or even the moves, like
I reference this to you the other day, Rich, like
when we saw Magic Johnson making those moves the first
time you saw on making those moves, the first time
you saw someone play that way, So you're blown.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Away by Magic Johnson. Nobody us hit today sees that
on and one videos and one on one competitions and
kids on social media every minute of the day. It
doesn't hit the same way, and it looks old magic.
That's kind of laying dad. No look past in the
eighties was something we had never seen before.
Speaker 10 (27:54):
Magic's on a breakaway and this is the ball off,
Like not looking at all was like, oh my god, No,
we remember were like a no look past.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
Right.
Speaker 11 (28:07):
You want to talk about that Lway documentary, So I'm
going to watch it tonight. He was released on Netflix Monday,
and when they got to the part where Elway did
the helicopter, I think that was Super Bowl thirty two
in my mind as as a little kid watching that.
He helicoptered way high off the ground into the end zone.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
Same, Danny, that's all same thing.
Speaker 11 (28:29):
That's the lord Like, that's what I think of. But
it was just to get a first down. It was
right right inside the five yard line. Wasn't for a touchdown.
And also he got like ankle high almost of carel.
Speaker 9 (28:41):
My memory of it was different than the reality. You're right,
because we're kids.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Our perspectives off Steve Mann one nine nine says, nostalgia
is a drug, and yeah, when kids see it from
their younger perspective, it doesn't hit in the same way.
Speaker 11 (28:57):
Not to take anything away from Elway, because he was
such a gamer in that Super Bowl, wanted it so
bad and it was awesome how he took the ball
and ran. He was an older guy, he was battling injuries,
but in my mind as a kid, that was one
of the most awesome quarterback runs ever. And now watching
that documentary, I was like, yeah, it was cool, but
we've seen bigger, faster, stronger quarterbacks running the football.
Speaker 5 (29:21):
Now that's that's weird. I just googled John Elway doing
the helicopter and I got something else.
Speaker 11 (29:30):
The footage of that. Yeah, I think that was far
bro farv coodn't helicopter tho, it was weird.
Speaker 9 (29:36):
Yeah, like a mad dog will like bring up Bob
Coozy all the time, Bob Kuzy, And then you'll look
at the highlights and like Bob Coosey was playing a
bunch of goofy white guys. He had no competition, and
you're not really impressed with it. That's how your kids
look like. Look at Mike Tyson highlight and they're like, yeah, but.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
That look who he's fighting.
Speaker 12 (29:54):
It looks like the way he's fighting some bum by
the way, if you looked at a Bob Coosey clip
when you were kid, it would be the equivalent of
looking at something from like the two thousands.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
Yeah, I'm telling you that. That's that's the age difference.
These movies, these highlights, these sports moments.
Speaker 9 (30:11):
Forget about an entire game. Think of like the greatest game,
the flu Game.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
Think about the greatest game you mentioned, Brett Farv, Brett
Farv's game when he when his dad died and he
threw for a million yards. Think of a legendary game.
A kid today would never even want to sit through
it because it looks old. As simple as that, it
could be the greatest game. They don't care because it
doesn't work with them. It's not enough stimulation. That's the
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shame of it. My kids watch it.
Speaker 10 (30:37):
But you remember I told the story a while back,
how I showed my kids the Mets eighty six game
six gets by Buckner, and my kids like, Dad is like,
it's all blurry, Like is it Like, is something wrong?
Speaker 5 (30:51):
It's all blurry? I'm like no, But hey, Rich, you
remember when.
Speaker 9 (30:54):
You were a kid, you thought life was in black
and white because all your Grandpappy's pictures and movies were
in black and white.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
My grandparents would tell me a story, I would picture
it in black and white. I thought your kids probably think.
Your kids probably think we grew up in the blurry era. Dad.
When you were a kid, was everything just blurry?
Speaker 10 (31:14):
You ask a college kid now, You ever see where
they ask a college athlete's like, what makes someone old?
Speaker 5 (31:19):
And they're like, yeah, when they were born in the
nineteen hundreds, Jesus. So basically the question is if classics
like It's a wonderful Life might not stand in the
test of time.
Speaker 9 (31:29):
I'm not sure if it does. I haven't really put
it to the test yet, and I don't think it will.
I really don't. That's why I'm hesitant to these moments
that we cherished growing up in the world of sports.
Like Danny g said, the John l a helicopter, Like,
we have this vision of this legendary moment in our brain.
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Kids today would hold home at this moment, and you
feel insulted as a result.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
It's just how it.
Speaker 10 (31:55):
Is Coch when you think of sports movies, see to
combine them ball movies and sports. And by the way,
I'm curious what people think at Covine on Rich, at
Fox Sports Radio, and of course eight seven, seven, nine
to nine on Fox. I am curious if people think,
first of all, will It's a wonderful life translate to
anyone that's never seen it?
Speaker 5 (32:14):
Now, that's question number one.
Speaker 10 (32:16):
Number two sports movies, which are so near and dear
to us as sports fans and movie fans. I heard
our pal Colin Cowhard recently talking about how.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
Stars Star Stars, the best stars attract stars, the best
sports movie.
Speaker 10 (32:29):
Ever, and he was very adamant in saying Star's Brian Song,
which I thought was an emotional, tear jerking great movie.
But would anyone younger now have the patience to sit
through Brian's song?
Speaker 5 (32:44):
Nope, North Dawlands forty Caddy Shack, No young person would
ever sit through that, no matter.
Speaker 9 (32:51):
How great it is. We're not saying it's not great.
We're just giving you the truth.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
So all these things that are near and dear, they're
not fast moving enough. These kids have pee brains.
Speaker 9 (33:01):
Social media has rotted everybody's attention span, including ours, especially kids,
And I made this point recently rich and I'll make
it again. The difference between us. If you're forty something
around that age, you're fluent an old guy in the
analog lifestyle, but you're also fluent in fast moving social
media culture of today. If you go up younger than that,
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your only reference is fast moving social media culture. You
do not have the attention span. You're not fluent in
old timey time analog, slow moving movies.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
You have no patience for it. You think it sucks.
There's nothing that anyone could say that could convince you
that at one time this was cool because in their mind,
it's not. They don't have that reference point. That's what
makes gen X and and you're you're after that, right,
what you are?
Speaker 2 (33:46):
What are you?
Speaker 5 (33:47):
Rich? ALFALFA generation? What is it? Alpha? Jen Alpha? I'm
I'm a gen X? Right? Are you a gen X?
I think I'm.
Speaker 10 (33:58):
I'm borderline millennial. If you're born in not around nineteen
eighty early eighties.
Speaker 9 (34:02):
We can appreciate both. That's what makes us unique. That's
what makes us valuable. Honestly, we're fluent in two different mindsets.
It's like being being fluent in like android and iOS.
You know your mind works in both ways. A younger
person only wants fast moving content, or they're falling asleep,
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or they're looking at their phone, or they're not interested.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
Do you think some younger person.
Speaker 10 (34:30):
Who is spending their free time playing stupid games like
all right, dog dog dog cat dog Cat like people
that are doing stupid TikTok Instagram games, do you think
they're gonna sit down for two hours and watch a
black and white Christmas movie.
Speaker 9 (34:45):
No, that's the shame of it. So if that is true,
that's what I'm saying. If that is true, and we
all agree, it probably is the same applies to these
sports highlights, the games that we hold near and dear
to our hearts. They do not care. All right, here's
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what we're gonna do.
Speaker 10 (35:08):
We're gonna take your feedback thoughts on old school sports clips,
sports highlights, old school movies.
Speaker 9 (35:15):
Do they goofy? You know how goofy stirrups must look
to a young kid? George Bretton is nineteen eighty stirrups?
Speaker 2 (35:22):
What are those?
Speaker 5 (35:23):
Dad? Well, we used to put these things over your
sock called stirrups. What are you from the eighteen hundred, dad? Yeah?
But why were we all were stirrups. Yeah, but dad,
why don't why to hold up your stockings?
Speaker 10 (35:36):
But but dad, why don't they just wear baseball socks?
Speaker 5 (35:40):
Right? Hey, hey dad, how come the kickers only had
one bar in their helmet? Are you from the eighteen hundreds?
So you know what I mean? You're trying to tell
them that it's cool and they're like, it's not.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Man.
Speaker 5 (35:53):
The evolution of of what we appreciated it because we
lived both lives. We're at different generation. Younger generation has
no exposure to anything but fast moving, fast acting social
media expectation. The wild thing is the attention span is
not there, so is disintegrated your thoughts.
Speaker 10 (36:14):
It's a wonderful life. Sports highlights and you know what's
interesting too. What was impressive then versus now also changed.
My quick example would be you're seeing, guys, what did
Cam little kick the other day in practice seventy three
yard a seventy three yard field goal that they said
would have been good from seventy five and he just
missed a seventy five yarder and the other Eddie Pinero
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and the Niners on Monday Night football, just for the
heck of it, tried like a sixty five yarder at
the half and it joinked off the thing.
Speaker 5 (36:42):
It was like, oh, man, if you tell kids, yeah,
the Buffalo Bills they've lost four Super Rolls in a row,
one because of a missed field goal, and you're they're thinking, oh,
what did the kicker miss like a sixty seventy fifty
yard field goal? No, it is a thirty nine yard
field goal.
Speaker 10 (37:01):
Scotty Norwood like, it's like looking, but we didn't think
it was a chip shot.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
Then yes, that's what I'm saying. They're saying through different
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Speaker 7 (37:43):
I mean, no, don't shame him. Don't do this. What
do you mean this? This is what you guys do
when one of us isn't here.
Speaker 5 (37:51):
I got listen, we.
Speaker 7 (37:52):
Don't get into this. He's got five kids, they're all
over the country. I got five that are young. We're
tied up with things. You're the one that would you know,
work from two to five am every night if if
given the opportunity.
Speaker 5 (38:03):
That's correct.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
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I'm sorry.
Speaker 7 (38:07):
We're building our family and we're we know, with our
family do in the holiday I I think that's okay.
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just tell you this because I know you were like
belittling the Hawaii Bowl. Okay, and I get it, whoa
(38:55):
whoa they playing?
Speaker 7 (38:56):
Was not belittling anything, just said where is the game played?
And you got defensive? Have your Rainbow Warriors coming back
and winning it because they're playing essentially a home game.
Speaker 5 (39:04):
And look, you know, yes, that is a home game.
And it's in front of a packed house of like
thirty five people. And look, I get all that, like,
all of that is well attended.
Speaker 7 (39:12):
There's a lot of there's a lot of Hawaiians there.
Speaker 5 (39:14):
You know, Hey, interesting camrangles. I'll just I'll just put
it that way, very very interesting. How they how they
present present that game. But you know they're working on
a new stadium. They're working on a new stadium. A
Loha stadium is gone and buried. So all of that
is is is a disappointment. But I will say this,
and I know that people dismiss Bowl games in general
(39:37):
these days and say, well, you know, who cares about this?
It's a goofy sponsor and nobody wants to be a
part of this and nobody wants to be it is
kind of cool to just have random college football games
on in the middle of the day during the holidays.
It is kind of cool. Like I mean, and I'm
not even saying from a gambling standpoint. You don't know
who you're betting on, and I get that it's an exhibition.
(39:58):
I still like random bowl games just thrown in in
the middle of a Friday, Like I just I like it,
and I'm never gonna not like it, and I hope
that it continues on for as long as it does,
because I think there is something fun about it. Maybe
I'm in the minority, but I'm a big fan of
these random games just in the middle of the week.
Speaker 7 (40:19):
Uh yeah, if we need like the bowl games to
be that, it's great. I guess like I love football,
I love any level of football, and seeing them on
at any point in time during the day, like that's
one of my favorite parts to it. I just I
think the tough thing is for where college football is at.
For the fan, that's what we love, that's what we've
always known, and unfortunately for the players and coaches this
(40:42):
time of year isn't that anymore. You know, these players
now are being asked to play an exhibition game with
a coach that may may not be staying, and it's
not usually a part of their deal, their contract. I mean,
that's as crazy as that sounds to admit. That's how
this works. You know, when you do a contract before
the season, sometimes there's some things laid in that out
(41:04):
in there, sometimes there's not. And these exhibition games are
ones that most of the agents at the college level
who represent players are probably not factoring those players into
playing those and it stinks, but it's where college football is.
It's now at a professional model. So I know it.
It's tough for us as fans to hear about these
(41:27):
guys opting out, guys who transfer the portal coaches, you know,
with one foot out the door. But this is that
the adults at the table have all made and we
now no longer have this amateur sport and important because
we've given power back to the players and they're and
they're utilizing that. They're getting compensated for what they should
have been compensated all along. And I looked up further
(41:48):
because it's funny you bring up like bullseason college football,
the thing that's like glaringly obvious to me. That becomes
like the biggest issue in college athletics is what we're
seeing in college basketball. Like you have players who have
been drafted that went overseas to play professional basketball that
are now joining teams with like a semester to play,
(42:11):
or players leaving like the G League. Right, it's like
coming back to college basketball. And then if that doesn't
tell you this model is completely jacked up, I don't
know what.
Speaker 5 (42:22):
Does shout out to? Uh, Brandon Whedon, Chris Wank. You know,
they were really ahead of their time, all right, they
were really ahead of their time.
Speaker 7 (42:28):
They were different, right, Like those are guys who played
professional sports in a different sport and then they came
back to football. These are guys who are the same sport.
It'd been like someone getting drafted in the sixth or
you know, fifth or sixth round and then you know
it doesn't work out for a year or even coming
back to college. You know that's the difference. Like, we've
never seen this this happening in college basketball right now?
Speaker 5 (42:52):
I where did like how did this whole thing start? This?
Like this it's basically banana land? Was this all part
of uh? Like covid. I was talking to my brother
last night because my nephew plays at Farris State. By
the way, just won another national championship, and he's going
to get a lot more burn time. No, uh, Antoine
(43:14):
de Mela, Yeah, he's gonna uh he's going to begin,
you know, his soul ami with the name that I
just tried to no, no, no, no no. And by the way,
if you are looking for your straight up white bread
name anywhere in the Knox family outside of the immediate family,
not happening. We shop in different aisles, right, There's like
there's there's something for everybody there it there's a real
(43:35):
pot luck. But like if you look at just sort
of where for his case for example. So he's going
to be getting a lot more burn time as you
call it, next year as a player because the six
year seniors are leaving. And then I believe that he
mentioned last night that there was a seven year guy
on the team, and I'm thinking of myself, wait, what
(44:00):
like you just like Tyler Shuck? I think I have this,
Like I think Tyler Shuck. Was he a teammate with
Justin Herbert at Oregon? I think he was.
Speaker 7 (44:11):
I think he played seven years, he's two way six now, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (44:15):
So where did this? Is this just the COVID year
just through everything for a loop. Is that where we're
at now?
Speaker 7 (44:21):
That was part of it. But I think even with
NIL once it was made legal state by state, what's
happened now is there's money involved, and all of these players,
it could be their families, their agents, they're all trying
to exhaust all efforts at earning whatever they can while
they can. And it's hard for me to look back
(44:42):
at that and criticize it because I think most people
will do the same thing too if you're in that position.
And it's always funny to me when you hear critics
and people who comment against this and say, well, why
are they doing that? Why can't they just move on?
It's like, well, if you were getting potentially hundreds of
thousands of dollars to come you know, have your son play,
or you know daughter for that matter, maybe in some
(45:03):
other sports like you would exhaust all efforts too. So
as much as we want to criticize it, this is
a model that was essentially made by the NCAA out
of negligence, meaning they wanted to keep denying the fact
that This is where the sport was going at in
every sport, whether it's college basketball, you know, football, whatever
(45:24):
you want to talk about, this is where it was
going and everyone wanted to turn a blind eye to it.
And now we find ourselves in this position where I
think in men's college basketball it's never been worse. There
has never been a more confusing, crazy time in men's
college basketball than right now, where you've got legitimate, you know,
(45:45):
amateur athletes, guys coming from the high school level of
who are now competing with pros essentially that couldn't make
it in the NBA or maybe are getting paid more
now to come over from foreign professional leagues to playing
men's college basketball.
Speaker 5 (46:01):
It's crazy.
Speaker 7 (46:01):
And the thing that's crazy to me too, if we
want to make a parallel to just college football. Right now,
everyone loves March Madness, at least maybe besides maybe not
Joel Klatt based on some of his comments about Cinderelsy
that's that's his words, not Mineel Merry Christmas, but everyone,
maybe besides Joel, loves March Madness and loves the potential
(46:25):
of Cinderella stories. What I used to love, though, is
like knowing the players on the team and nowadays you
have no clue. There's it's so transient. There's so much
movement that there's guys who are there for one year.
There's guys who are you know, on different teams three
years in a row, all maybe the March Madness, you know,
debut with a different team each year. It's actually completely
(46:46):
taken away from the experience of it. Yes, you have
some crazy finishes and you've got your you know, sixteen
seed challenging and number one seed, and that's exciting and
I'm part of it. That's added a level of parody
to the game, but it's also taken away from you know,
being able for I think these tournaments and these teams
and these brands to be well known. I mean part
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of the history of like Duke North Carolina are some
of the players who played through multiple years of that
matchup against one another. And it's just tough now to
kind of look back on, you know, even some of
these the runs that some of those teams would have
in March Madness that they're not there anymore. It's hard
to have that consistent success. And maybe you say, well,
that's good because it creates an opportunity for other teams.
(47:29):
But is it, like, is this a world where we're
excited about college sports and what it's brought. It feels
like the conversation now is like leveled with what we're
seeing on the court, on the field, with what's happening
off of it. And I never feel like that's a
good thing for the sport as soon as the conversation
around the sport starts being more about everything other than
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the sport itself. And I think that the NBA is
battling this right now. You've completely lost You've completely lost
your sport.
Speaker 5 (47:58):
By the way, you mentioned the Duke North Carolina rivalry
and all those players that went through all those years
of the rivalry, Like, how about the fact and I
know you know this, and we're going to talk with
Petros Papadakis coming up here shortly, but how about the
fact that there's going to be guys that attend USC
and Notre Dame who never know that rivalry, Like there's
(48:21):
going to be a gap of players who never took
part in that rivalry. It's kind of wild.
Speaker 7 (48:27):
It's a shame, And I understand from the Southern cal perspective,
but this would be my argument. I think out there
and a lot of people be like, oh, you're biased
or you're not objective because you went to Notre Dame.
You played, Look I did, but I lost SC in
every one of those matchups and im playing against them
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in the greatest area or excuse me, era of SC football.
I think that's fair to say, and it's probably factual
at least during that time period where they won back
to back national championships, played for ARE and they were
in contention for it even my senior year when we
went out there. If they didn't I think, drop a game,
what was the UCLA maybe whoever they dropped the game
(49:09):
to at some point you know that season that caused
you know, Florida to go instead of SC. But I would.
I would go back and play those games and experience
it all over again, even if you know, again that
was the challenge of playing against the number one team
in the country every single one of those years and
knowing that, like, our program wasn't built back up to
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that extent anymore, because that was part of the reason
why you went to Notre Dame. It was for the
Notre Dame SC game. It was for a lot of
those rivals that you played for. And I think the
tough thing for me with this entire conversation around this
rivalry that has existed since what nineteen twenty six. I
mean we've missed because of a world war in COVID.
That's the only two times the conversation about this rivalry
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not being renewed. It didn't start with Notre Dame. It
started with Southern count I started with Lincoln Riley. He
was the first person that introduced this. And what's interesting
about that is he had two years in the PAC
twelve before that got dismantled or at least I should say,
transform to what it is today, where he didn't win
in the conference. You know, they struggled to beat Notre
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Dame and so there was really no excuses then. But
I think when they moved into the Big Ten, they
realized like, oh, we actually have to play an even
tougher schedule now, and because of that, they viewed this
game as too big of a big of a challenge.
What's crazy to me, though, is like Pete Carroll would
have never ducked this game, never, And you've got a
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head coach now that's willing to that's willing to throw
out history throw out tradition, and he's been enabled by
their athletic director in Jen Cohen, who should be able
to stand up and say, like, this is part of
the deal. When you took the job, you knew you
were going to play them every single year. That's part
of the deal. It's part of the job. Marcus Freeman
took it knowing that Brian Kelly took it knowing that
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that's part of one of those games you get fired
up for. But because of SC's decision to then leave
the Pac twelve, which ultimately led to its crumbling, joined
the Big Ten, and because of their lack of success
and ability to compete, we now have a rivalry that
goes away because what's changed for Notre Dame in that
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time absolutely nothing that changed head coaches, athletic director's presidents.
There was never a point in time where Notre Dame
asked to be out of this rivalry, even during my
era where we went to a couple back to back
BCS games where we could be competitive, but not to
the lengths of the team that was number one in
the country. Never and we've still remained independent, which a
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lot of people hold against Notre Dame for that you know,
for why we've done it, and I don't have explain
this to you. I mean, there's a deep history to this.
It's deeply rooted in Notre Dame's Catholicism and the way
you know, Catholics at one point in time this country
were persecuted. And why Notre Dame became this national ran.
It wasn't because of you know, necessarily just because of
marketing and New Rockney. It had a lot to do
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with the fact that there were teams that didn't want
to let us in the Western Conference, which became the
Big Ten because of their Catholic roots. So Notre Dame
went out traveling amongst the country to play whoever they
could play, and then became this national brand that was
born from that. So when people ask you to join
a conference, maybe they just don't really understand the roots
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and the deep ti there is to Catholicism and why
that matters for everyone who's been a part of Notre
Dame since then. But I digress because it's not about that.
Speaker 5 (52:35):
To me.
Speaker 7 (52:35):
It's about se and it's about them not having any
success in this series of late making the decision to
join a conference now that they're having a hard time
competing in and then not having a head coach and
an athletic director that can stand up and say, you
know what, like, we're gonna keep doing this because we're
gonna get this right, because we believe that it will
eventually get back on top of that mountain. And you
can blame Notre Dame for saying like, well, obviously they
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didn't concede that to se Which think about that matchup
in general, Jonas, they never played in the cold months
in South Bend. They play in October. It's not like
they're forcing s Seed have to play in inclement weather
like in the end of the season. They're playing in October,
there's still plenty of football left to be played. And
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then Southern col gets to host at the end of
the season at their place, which plays all to their
advantage in that regard. So, even the way it's scheduled
as it was, it was never playing to the advantage
of Notre Dame. It was never forcing them to come
play in inclement weather at some point in November. In
South Bend, it's always played to that season advantage.
Speaker 5 (53:39):
Yeah, the whole thing.
Speaker 7 (53:41):
Is just it's sad. Yeah, And then the other thing
is at least you have people like Keishawn Johnson, you know, Patricks,
We're gonna talk to you here in a minute, coming
out and then calling them on it. And then you
have guys like Matt Leiner. Look, oh, you know, I
believe it's like, come on, dude, and I don't have
this argument with Matt, like on the phone through whatever,
Like it's Christmas, so I'm not gonna do that. But
it's sad for someone who had so much success in
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the series, for someone who's been like you know him
and whoever else you want to talk about, who's been
in the history of SC, some of the greatest players.
The fact that you're not calling this out it's crazy
to me. Every SC player should, I would hope, unless
they're just scared of the matchup, because that's really what
it comes down to.
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Voting is over. It's time.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Well, we're getting to that moment of the most Valuable
Least Valuable Danet. They're already screwing things up the backroom guys. Mario,
whose job is to direct the show. Also he is
the reigning most Valuable backroom Guy, and then he says, oh,
why don't we wait to reveal the results? And I go,
it's my show and I need you to give me
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his trophy most Valuable Backroom Guy to the newest winner.
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Final Day for us this holiday season.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Final Day, Final Show, Final, What let's see we got
up there right now for the holidays. You prefer to
host or travel right now? Sixty percent prefer to host.
And then we also have who's more to blame for
the USC.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Notre Dame rivalry going away?
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Notre Dame has fifty eight percent of that's great.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
What are we going to go with the final hour?
Speaker 5 (02:34):
I got one here.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
From Paul who is asking if Philip Rivers is helping
his Hall of Fame chances or hurting his Hall of
Fame chances.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
I think he's doing both because he's helping right now,
but by delaying five years, like he's going to be
up against Aaron Rodgers probably, Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 6 (02:56):
I think he's lightly helping his Hall of Fame case
because he doesn't have a big hook besides numbers and longevity.
He doesn't have a Super Bowl a lot of moments.
But I think this puts a pretty good spin on
the end of his career and people will remember that
in five years.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, not huge. It's a good story. Good story.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
You just you know, you wonder what quarterbacks are going
to be retiring and what kind of numbers are they
going to have. Are they going to have an MVP
and or a Super Bowl. I'm assuming Matthew Stafford the
way he's played this year, is going to want to
play at least another year. I don't know about Aaron Rodgers,
So you've got to factor that in as well. That
now you've moved the clock, you know, it's five five
(03:36):
more years. By the way, it's a meat Tuesday. We
just had some biscuits and gravy. We also have steak
and eggs, bacon, hash browns. Who has it better.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Than nobody back in college.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Patty and Louisville. Hey Patty Dan, longtime, first time. What's
on your mind?
Speaker 5 (03:56):
How are you the only one that ets the biscuits
and gravy?
Speaker 7 (03:58):
Right?
Speaker 5 (03:59):
You have to open in the biscuit.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Oh the dnez did not open the biscuit. No, Marvin,
just ate the biscuit. Oh Marvin, what's wrong with you? Oh? Well,
thank you, Patty.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
I didn't know we were going to be educated in
how to eat biscuits and gravy.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
Yes, Paul, as a person who believes in personal freedom
when eat. Whilst eating, some people chop up their.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Biscuit, Okay, just thrown out.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Okay, that's fine, that's fine.
Speaker 7 (04:30):
Yes, Tom, I picked up the biscuit like there was
a rock on the floor, and I just dipped in
the gravy and just held it in my head like
I was holding a ball.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (04:37):
I had no interest in opening up.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Uh, Mario, if you could please give me the results
of the most valuable least valuable DNA.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
And is there any uh possible ability that you were
throwing things at curveballs.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
At Mario last minute to affect his voting.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
He was told, I tell him, don't produce a show,
just direct a show. And here's Anthony, who is on
the short list for Most Valuable back Room.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yes, he's made the first round to cut. He has
made the.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
First round of cuts. That's Anthony, the youngest member of
our staff.
Speaker 6 (05:18):
Yes, paul would Anthony be the first ever rookie to
win it?
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Wow. This is his first year.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
And Mario has his trophy because he was the most
Valuable BRG last year. And it's right there if you're
watching on Peacock and Mario will bring that out. I
believe when you know what Mariol, Mario, why don't you
bring that out? Because I want to introduce this year's
(05:48):
most Valuable Backroom Guy, Toddy. I'm gonna let you guess
who you think I'm picking for the most Valuable backroom Guy.
Speaker 7 (05:57):
I am going to go with Dylan for that.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Dylan, all right, Marvin Dylan, all right, Paulie, I'm pretty
sure you're going with Rob Rob.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Okay seatan oh man.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
You know what I'm just gonna say. Uh, I'm gonna
throw it out there. I'm gonna say Ray, Ray, you
can't say it. Laugh you can't say it, then laugh
at your own joke.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Okay, Jesus go.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Cutthroat all right.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I'm sorry, Ray, that was a very nice you know.
I always got to go for the joke.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
I'm sorry. It's a weakness that I have.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I have to go for it. That's Ray. You're very great, important.
You're my MVP RG. Okay every day.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Now, Anthony who just started with us full time, he's
on the short list. Dylan has done a wonderful job
as well. Rob was sneaky great, does a lot of things.
The newsletter very very underrated and very understated. Ray done
a great job. Ray with the gambling podcast. There's just
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so many candidates weeks. Who's our cameraman?
Speaker 5 (07:06):
You know?
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Uh, Eric the big german, all the things that he
did driving cross country. The most valuable back room guy
for this year is Jay Eric.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
It's like Leicester City. Yes, this guy, this guy's been
down twenty.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Eight three his whole life. Yes, so oh, let's go
Jay in the building. I know he's in the back
working smoking, he's smoking outside. He might be smoking a heater.
But if excepting on on his behalf, if we can,
if we could get in touch with him. You would
have thought that Mario would be producing this where we
would have Jay here to accept his.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Award Vegas and they have Ja on the board.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Jay was not on the board. And I did say
to the big german. And by the way, Mario was
so sure that it was going to be Dylan. Mario
betta pie to the face that it was going to
be Dylan. So Mario not only loses the BRG trophy,
he will get a pie to the face coming up
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at the end of the show. So if we can
locate j and it was probably outside.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
You know, that's really unfortunate is that one of the
brg's had to go get Jay to bring him out
here to be like here, you're the person that won.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
You go in there comes see that's a.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Guyay, all right, Jay, come over here and get your trophy.
Oh what a great moment, What a stunner. Look at
that there. You know, buddy, am you're welcome Jay there.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
He is so many newports tonight. Yeah, all the newports.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Cigarettes for everybody. Thank you. Jay. Jay did a wonderful
job this year.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
And uh, right on cue they have to get him
from back he's out there working and uh he of
course is the brother of the big German, Eric, the
big german.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
So uh, here we go. Yes, it was busy tarring
the roof.
Speaker 7 (09:24):
That's why he was late to accept the award.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
We had to get him down with the ladder and everything. Wow.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Okay, so Mario, you're an idiot.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Okay. I just opened the least Valuable dannette. There's nothing
in here, and then I opened the most Valuable dannette.
Then there's two things in here that is classic. Okay,
all right, what do you what do you like? This
is why you you're getting a piety. I can give
you a pie of the face right now. I wish
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you could be more like Jay.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Probably should have that m VBRG after Uh okay, do.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
We want to do least Valuable Dan after start Todd? Yeah,
you guess.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I thought it was that you're announcing.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Just right to it, Todd.
Speaker 7 (10:19):
I'm gonna go myself for least Valuable down.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Net okay, uh Setan, I'm gonna say me okay, Marvin.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
Me.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Paul.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
I think Todd will win the award.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Paul finished fourth, Least Valuable, Marvin third, Setan finished second day.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I lost.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
It wasn't that close. Fritzy won by twenty five hundred vote.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
Haters gonna hate. Maybe it's a good thing.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
I don't know what's now we get here, we go
the envelope for the most value. Dan Paulie was last,
Marvin third, the winner by a mere one hundred votes.
(11:27):
Franca the double, Yeah wow, you did the daily double
again and the loan.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Which once again cancels each other.
Speaker 7 (11:40):
Oute. So I'm just kind of a nomn.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
You're a you're you're a It's all about content. You're
really good and really bad.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Give it and take it away. That's what happens.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Yes, but Mary'll take that as a compliment.
Speaker 7 (11:51):
Maybe what the best and the most and least?
Speaker 5 (11:54):
I don't know what to I'm trying to figure out
how to process that.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
That you do really really good things and then you
do some bad things.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
There are extremes of a people in about my contribution.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
You're kind of like a home run hitter who strikes out.
You're Adam Dunn or Dave Kingman a love more hate
him thing with that. Yeah, you either hit a home
run or you strike out. You're are Pete Alonzo.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
How's that always want to be compared to Peter lams.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
If you take out Ethan, who won back to back mvds. Somehow,
Todd has won five of the last six.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Congratulations Todd. It's a pretty amazing run.
Speaker 7 (12:34):
It's like a dynasty.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
I'm gonna like ten An all of a sudden.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Yeah, but you're making an impact matters. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
People also won four of the last five lvds. It's
basically just a Todd Fritz competition because he went both
of them every single year.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
It was, you know, the least Valuable danet. So you
could see the voting and it went up like giving
the middle finger, like Todd's votes were so much that
it was like the other dan outs are here, and
then it went straight up like you were giving the
middle finger to all those.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Who voted for you.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
Todd.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
Fantastic.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Yeah, oh so much drama.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
I'm exhausted, but I still got forty five minutes every day,
super professional. Yes, thank you, thank you, Todd. Reggie Miller
will join us coming up. We'll get some more phone calls.
We will also have Todd's holiday names, yes, so he
can get a start to next year's Least Valuable dan
at and we will have the that will go to now,
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anything that happens from here on goes on next year's resume.
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Speaker 9 (14:34):
Hey, why don't you enjoy your holidays? Baham bug to
all and Merry Christmas Eve. It's Steve Covino, just a
kid from Union, New Jersey out here in Idaho. Marle
from Idaho. That's Rich Davis. He put the square in
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(14:54):
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Speaker 10 (15:00):
Oh there have you listening on five seventy am, the
LA Big affiliate out here. Let me tell you the
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news right now, mud slide possibility.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
So be safe out there.
Speaker 10 (15:14):
Like of all days, right who wants a soggy, gross Christmas?
Speaker 5 (15:17):
Even Christmas dreaming of a saggy ass, gross mon suit
of a cruiz. You have an excuse to stay inside
and watch movies. I agree, Sam.
Speaker 10 (15:28):
Until I was a homeowner, I think anyone that's a homeowner.
Anytimes there's like bad weather conditions, you're like, I don't
want to see a leak or something. You know, there's
always something that goes wrong, And Kavin will tell you
there's always something.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
Yeah, my sister's place already leaking on the west side
because of all the rain.
Speaker 9 (15:46):
And I'm sorry looking at movies. You know, we got
to talk some movies in just the moment. But I
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(16:30):
major this hour the biggest stories in sports and pop culture.
We decide with spot if they're midweek or major. And
right now again, I'm in Idaho with my future in laws.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Rich What does that mean? I mean, that's what is that?
That's a big giveaway. I don't know what are you
supposed to say? My girlfriend's family? There you go? Well,
future in laws would insinuate you're getting engaged. I mean,
I don't put a lot of emphasis on that. It's
just the same, really, right, I mean I would say
future in laws? Am I not?
Speaker 11 (17:04):
It's not really an expression taken a ring box, ring
box in your pocket or a potato?
Speaker 5 (17:11):
What's that under the tree? All right? So anyway, stop
sprinting rumors.
Speaker 12 (17:17):
Don't do it on Christmas though, because then you can't
take it back, because yeah, exact now.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
Future in laws. Huh, Oh my god, you're so corny.
You're just gas tradition. You're the guys. That's when you say,
that's my girlfriend's family. What do you say? You just
say it's the same, You say future in laws completely
insinuate your getting married. Just call me in laws. Then
it's like, it's fine, corny if I sit in laws,
does that mean anything? This is my girlfriend's family, right,
(17:42):
I'm here with them.
Speaker 11 (17:43):
Fox Sports Boys ninety nine point nine is going wild
right now?
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Yeah, man is getting a local boise reporter outside your house,
getting your radio host and your potato queen are getting married.
Oh wow, so her family radio a tycoon and local
potato girls Potato twenty twelve.
Speaker 9 (18:06):
So I realized that none of her family, well, not
her entire friendly, but her sister, her brother in law.
A lot of the younger people had never seen It's
a Wonderful Life, and I felt like the old guy,
like they made it seem like it was my favorite
movie and it's one.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
Up for someone, which is what I'm like, which is
what you promised to give your girlfriend in the future.
Speaker 9 (18:29):
You guys are corny, dude, so you know, I'm like, hey,
hold on, I'm not from nineteen forty six. That's when
the movie came out. It's a classic. I'm surprised you
guys have never seen it. And they made it out like, oh,
he wants us to watch it. We should watch it
for Steve. And I'm like, no, I don't know what
we hold up.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
Don't watch it for me because then I'm gonna be
insulted that you know, you're looking at your phone and
you're taking bathroom breaks and you're chatting over the movie
like I and you watch it if you want to
watch it. And I will say this, we have not
yet to watch it.
Speaker 9 (18:58):
We have not watched it, and we watched it Dave
Chappelle Special last night. But now I got all this
pressure because they are saying, yeah, we're gonna watch It's
a Wonderful Life with Steve.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
I'm like, yo, stop, what's that for me? Like, I
don't want you to do any for me. You should
have seen it a long time ago.
Speaker 10 (19:12):
So you're gonna go from Edgy Stand Up Special to
nineteen forty six black and white Christmas movie?
Speaker 9 (19:18):
Well, yeah, because it's it's a slower moving movie. And
we put that on last night, you know.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
Late at night. This cigarette smoking in both.
Speaker 10 (19:25):
Yeah, exactly, that's the only commonality. But you know, what,
can you know brings up a good point? Movies, music,
sports moments? There are things that in your mind, dude,
there's a freaking classic. How could someone not appreciate it?
But when you show it to your kids, or a
younger girlfriend or tim to be fiance, or anyone younger
(19:48):
in your life, it might not translate. And I noticed
this for the first time years ago, when my nieces
and nephew were younger.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
I was like, you guys, want to watch it? Scary movie?
And like yeah, Uncle Rich and I was like, you know,
we're gonna watch Gremlins.
Speaker 10 (20:07):
I sat down my nieces and nephew, who are now
like grown teenagers, are like, they're in college.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
But I remember when they were little.
Speaker 10 (20:14):
I thought I was going to open their eyes to
a legendary classic movie.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
I was like, dude, who thought they want they'd want
a magua for Christmas? Yo. They were like, Uncle, Rich,
you sucked. This is the cheesiest movie ever. Think. They
booed me and I asked night. As I watched it,
I was like, oh my god, this is bad. It's
like I.
Speaker 9 (20:39):
Stated once dated, it's slow, the special effects are terrible. Well,
go back once in a while, and you looks like
it looks like something from the early eighties, Like blurry,
it came in blurry. You watch something from your childhood
that you know how movies coming high there for and okay, came.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
In blurry eighties blurry.
Speaker 10 (20:56):
Watch something from back then and you have such fun
memories of something that was complete trash. Like I remember
going back and watching reruns of shows that I loved
as a kid. I'll name two of them that are
garbage that as a little boy, Rich Davis me loved you.
Speaker 9 (21:15):
But truthfully, the shows you're about to mention were garbage.
Then you're just a little kid. They'll see your your
expectations were low.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Yeah, but I mean these were successful shows that rent.
It's classics that stand the test of time. Perfect Strangers
is not a class what I coffee show from the eighties.
Speaker 10 (21:30):
I thought Belki and Larry making Bibby Bopkas was hilarious.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
It was not. Yeah, because your nose pick an eight
year old? What do you know, Willie? I thought ALF
was amazing.
Speaker 10 (21:40):
I went back and I watched an episode of ALF
once and I'm like, this is nonsense.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Most of us thought that was cheesy when it was on. Yeah,
yeah it was. It was cheesy. Difference, but cheezy then
means even cheesier. Now, I'll give you classics then should
stand the test of time, but not all do. And
that's how I feel about Like, dude, Back to the
Future came out nineteen eighty five, it's still great today. Yeah,
because classics stand in the test of time.
Speaker 9 (22:06):
It's a Wonderful Life came out in nineteen forty six,
and it's in black and white, and I think younger
eyes see anything like that and they're immediately tuned out
because it's not crystal clear clarity. It's just it looks old,
it looks slow, and they don't it doesn't register to their.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
Weenial social media eyes.
Speaker 9 (22:25):
You know, it just looks they won't even give it
a chance, is really what my point is, even if
you hold it up.
Speaker 10 (22:31):
My kids liked Goonies and I thought that was cool.
They were like, yeah, this is cool because it's an
adventure kid's fun.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
Time fun movie. Yeah. I'm not surprised by that, but
I'm gonna upset a lot of people when I say this.
Kids want fast moving, fast acting. Let me upset a
lot of people, the nerds out there. When I was younger,
I was certainly not the coolest kid, but my family
was not a Star Wars family. Still aren't. We're just
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not a Star Wars family.
Speaker 10 (22:58):
My wife likes Star Wars, but growing up, my brother
and sister and my family we weren't into it. So
when I was older, I investigated Star Wars because everyone
I knew was like, do yes, Star Wars the best?
If you watched the original nineteen seventy something Star Wars
now for the first time, I promise you you'd be
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terribly disappointed.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
No, No, that's blasphemy. Yeah, man, I don't know, class
extend to test the time. That's my theory. They were
so ahead of their time with those movies.
Speaker 11 (23:30):
Rich that that's one of the reasons why the acting storyline,
the special effect.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
Are you kidding, Dan, it's not. I think you also
have to explain to whoever's watching, like you have to realize, guys, yeah,
this might look a little dated, but these were the innovators,
the pioneers, the first imagine seeing something like this for
the first when we were kids.
Speaker 10 (23:49):
The cool the coolest special effect when we were kids
was large March's face like we've come along, We've come
a long way.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
I'm not saying Star Wars is bad. What I'm saying
is watching it. You kind of did.
Speaker 10 (24:00):
Say watching that, you know, you know what. I guess
You're right, I do. I did that gets something. It
stinks watching it now. You can't get through the first one.
It stinks, it does.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
I think it's just it's bored by it.
Speaker 11 (24:12):
There there was more storylines going on in older films,
and so to Covino's point, Uh, I think it was
Coco Melon where I read that they changed the shot
like eight times in a few seconds. Because the kids
nowadays they need the screen to constantly change.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
You're right, Danny g there's the show Coco Melon.
Speaker 10 (24:32):
If you got little kids, Coco Melons like a very
popular kid show. They change frames I believe every three
seconds something absurd where.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
It's the same because the kid's attentions like boom bam.
Speaker 9 (24:44):
You know when I started noticing this, I remember showing
my daughter Mary Poppins and I.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
Think a kid's gonna chim Chimaru. Yeah, Like, it just
felt slow. It felt so snow and old.
Speaker 9 (24:55):
And it was that song that the Manhatter guy singing
when he's floating around. By the time that song came on,
my kid was sleeping. And you know what, They.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Start off those older movies with the credits, so the
kids bored before the movie even start.
Speaker 10 (25:10):
Dude, my kids love Wicked. We went to go see Wicked.
Obviously as a good dad, I'm like, let's watch Wizard
of Oz. They loved the Wizard of Oz. But I
had to fast forward the first minute and a half
because it's opening credits of who's in the movie.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
There's like two minutes of opening credits, Like is it
what are the words? I see? What are why words?
When does it start? I'm like, oh, geez, you know
you know what? They need to start backwards?
Speaker 12 (25:38):
Doing like you know how with podcasts you can listen
at like one and a half or two time speed.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
They need to do that. With old movies you need
to be able to like there needs to be away.
You want the mar what the more est man in town? Yeah?
Speaker 12 (25:54):
Right, and then it's just everything moves it two times
the speed and you can listen to it and then
it's like it's over in half the time.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Oh, they need You're right, spud.
Speaker 10 (26:01):
They like a podcast or like a I know a
lot of baseball networks like s n Y and Yes
for the Yankees could be known.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
I'm sure Spectrum for the Dodgers.
Speaker 10 (26:10):
That's in mess In mess In all the they do
the like a two and a half three hour game.
They do some type of like cutout, They cut out
the fat and it's like a half hour game. Yeah,
the condensed version is great. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (26:22):
So based on this, you know, what do you think about?
It's a wonderful life? Is it a fail? Am I
setting myself up for failure? Are they going to be bored?
Seeing through younger eyes? Does it not stand to test
the time?
Speaker 5 (26:33):
Beautiful?
Speaker 9 (26:33):
I look at it, I really look at it like
a timeless story of life lessons and what the holiday
really means. And I think classics never die. I think
it's the Wizard of Oz of Christmas movies. I really do.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
But then again, I don't want that pressure and vouching
for it, and I don't want them to be bored,
and it's all my fault, and I don't want to
be booed the.
Speaker 9 (26:53):
Way your nieces and nephews booed you Rich when you
show them Gremlins. But think about this, if certain movies
and even to us, certain movies right that maybe your
mom watched or boring to us, like, man, I don't know.
Do those sports highlights that we cherished, that we saw,
that we watched, that we grew up thinking we're the coolest.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
Do those games? Do those moments also not translate because
they look so old.
Speaker 9 (27:16):
You could see a highlight from the nineties and it
looks old and and blurry, and a kid today might
just think, yeah, that's weak. Or even the moves, like
I reference this to you the other day, Rich, like
when we saw Magic Johnson making those moves the first
time you saw on making those moves, the first time
you saw someone play that way, So you're blown.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Away by Magic Johnson. Nobody us hit today sees that
on and one videos and one on one competitions and
kids on social media every minute of the day. It
doesn't hit the same way, and it looks old magic.
That's kind of laying dad. No look past in the
eighties was something we had never seen before.
Speaker 10 (27:54):
Magic's on a breakaway and this is the ball off,
Like not looking at all was like, oh my god, No,
we remember were like a no look past.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
Right.
Speaker 11 (28:07):
You want to talk about that Lway documentary, So I'm
going to watch it tonight. He was released on Netflix Monday,
and when they got to the part where Elway did
the helicopter, I think that was Super Bowl thirty two
in my mind as as a little kid watching that.
He helicoptered way high off the ground into the end zone.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
Same, Danny, that's all same thing.
Speaker 11 (28:29):
That's the lord Like, that's what I think of. But
it was just to get a first down. It was
right right inside the five yard line. Wasn't for a touchdown.
And also he got like ankle high almost of carel.
Speaker 9 (28:41):
My memory of it was different than the reality. You're right,
because we're kids.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Our perspectives off Steve Mann one nine nine says, nostalgia
is a drug, and yeah, when kids see it from
their younger perspective, it doesn't hit in the same way.
Speaker 11 (28:57):
Not to take anything away from Elway, because he was
such a gamer in that Super Bowl, wanted it so
bad and it was awesome how he took the ball
and ran. He was an older guy, he was battling injuries,
but in my mind as a kid, that was one
of the most awesome quarterback runs ever. And now watching
that documentary, I was like, yeah, it was cool, but
we've seen bigger, faster, stronger quarterbacks running the football.
Speaker 5 (29:21):
Now that's that's weird. I just googled John Elway doing
the helicopter and I got something else.
Speaker 11 (29:30):
The footage of that. Yeah, I think that was far
bro farv coodn't helicopter tho, it was weird.
Speaker 9 (29:36):
Yeah, like a mad dog will like bring up Bob
Coozy all the time, Bob Kuzy, And then you'll look
at the highlights and like Bob Coosey was playing a
bunch of goofy white guys. He had no competition, and
you're not really impressed with it. That's how your kids
look like. Look at Mike Tyson highlight and they're like, yeah, but.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
That look who he's fighting.
Speaker 12 (29:54):
It looks like the way he's fighting some bum by
the way, if you looked at a Bob Coosey clip
when you were kid, it would be the equivalent of
looking at something from like the two thousands.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
Yeah, I'm telling you that. That's that's the age difference.
These movies, these highlights, these sports moments.
Speaker 9 (30:11):
Forget about an entire game. Think of like the greatest game,
the flu Game.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
Think about the greatest game you mentioned, Brett Farv, Brett
Farv's game when he when his dad died and he
threw for a million yards. Think of a legendary game.
A kid today would never even want to sit through
it because it looks old. As simple as that, it
could be the greatest game. They don't care because it
doesn't work with them. It's not enough stimulation. That's the
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shame of it. My kids watch it.
Speaker 10 (30:37):
But you remember I told the story a while back,
how I showed my kids the Mets eighty six game
six gets by Buckner, and my kids like, Dad is like,
it's all blurry, Like is it Like, is something wrong?
Speaker 5 (30:51):
It's all blurry? I'm like no, But hey, Rich, you
remember when.
Speaker 9 (30:54):
You were a kid, you thought life was in black
and white because all your Grandpappy's pictures and movies were
in black and white.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
My grandparents would tell me a story, I would picture
it in black and white. I thought your kids probably think.
Your kids probably think we grew up in the blurry era. Dad.
When you were a kid, was everything just blurry?
Speaker 10 (31:14):
You ask a college kid now, You ever see where
they ask a college athlete's like, what makes someone old?
Speaker 5 (31:19):
And they're like, yeah, when they were born in the
nineteen hundreds, Jesus. So basically the question is if classics
like It's a wonderful Life might not stand in the
test of time.
Speaker 9 (31:29):
I'm not sure if it does. I haven't really put
it to the test yet, and I don't think it will.
I really don't. That's why I'm hesitant to these moments
that we cherished growing up in the world of sports.
Like Danny g said, the John l a helicopter, Like,
we have this vision of this legendary moment in our brain.
(31:49):
Kids today would hold home at this moment, and you
feel insulted as a result.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
It's just how it.
Speaker 10 (31:55):
Is Coch when you think of sports movies, see to
combine them ball movies and sports. And by the way,
I'm curious what people think at Covine on Rich, at
Fox Sports Radio, and of course eight seven, seven, nine
to nine on Fox. I am curious if people think,
first of all, will It's a wonderful life translate to
anyone that's never seen it?
Speaker 5 (32:14):
Now, that's question number one.
Speaker 10 (32:16):
Number two sports movies, which are so near and dear
to us as sports fans and movie fans. I heard
our pal Colin Cowhard recently talking about how.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
Stars Star Stars, the best stars attract stars, the best
sports movie.
Speaker 10 (32:29):
Ever, and he was very adamant in saying Star's Brian Song,
which I thought was an emotional, tear jerking great movie.
But would anyone younger now have the patience to sit
through Brian's song?
Speaker 5 (32:44):
Nope, North Dawlands forty Caddy Shack, No young person would
ever sit through that, no matter.
Speaker 9 (32:51):
How great it is. We're not saying it's not great.
We're just giving you the truth.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
So all these things that are near and dear, they're
not fast moving enough. These kids have pee brains.
Speaker 9 (33:01):
Social media has rotted everybody's attention span, including ours, especially kids,
And I made this point recently rich and I'll make
it again. The difference between us. If you're forty something
around that age, you're fluent an old guy in the
analog lifestyle, but you're also fluent in fast moving social
media culture of today. If you go up younger than that,
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your only reference is fast moving social media culture. You
do not have the attention span. You're not fluent in
old timey time analog, slow moving movies.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
You have no patience for it. You think it sucks.
There's nothing that anyone could say that could convince you
that at one time this was cool because in their mind,
it's not. They don't have that reference point. That's what
makes gen X and and you're you're after that, right,
what you are?
Speaker 2 (33:46):
What are you?
Speaker 5 (33:47):
Rich? ALFALFA generation? What is it? Alpha? Jen Alpha? I'm
I'm a gen X? Right? Are you a gen X?
I think I'm.
Speaker 10 (33:58):
I'm borderline millennial. If you're born in not around nineteen
eighty early eighties.
Speaker 9 (34:02):
We can appreciate both. That's what makes us unique. That's
what makes us valuable. Honestly, we're fluent in two different mindsets.
It's like being being fluent in like android and iOS.
You know your mind works in both ways. A younger
person only wants fast moving content, or they're falling asleep,
(34:24):
or they're looking at their phone, or they're not interested.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
Do you think some younger person.
Speaker 10 (34:30):
Who is spending their free time playing stupid games like
all right, dog dog dog cat dog Cat like people
that are doing stupid TikTok Instagram games, do you think
they're gonna sit down for two hours and watch a
black and white Christmas movie.
Speaker 9 (34:45):
No, that's the shame of it. So if that is true,
that's what I'm saying. If that is true, and we
all agree, it probably is the same applies to these
sports highlights, the games that we hold near and dear
to our hearts. They do not care. All right, here's
(35:07):
what we're gonna do.
Speaker 10 (35:08):
We're gonna take your feedback thoughts on old school sports clips,
sports highlights, old school movies.
Speaker 9 (35:15):
Do they goofy? You know how goofy stirrups must look
to a young kid? George Bretton is nineteen eighty stirrups?
Speaker 2 (35:22):
What are those?
Speaker 5 (35:23):
Dad? Well, we used to put these things over your
sock called stirrups. What are you from the eighteen hundred, dad? Yeah?
But why were we all were stirrups. Yeah, but dad,
why don't why to hold up your stockings?
Speaker 10 (35:36):
But but dad, why don't they just wear baseball socks?
Speaker 5 (35:40):
Right? Hey, hey dad, how come the kickers only had
one bar in their helmet? Are you from the eighteen hundreds?
So you know what I mean? You're trying to tell
them that it's cool and they're like, it's not.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Man.
Speaker 5 (35:53):
The evolution of of what we appreciated it because we
lived both lives. We're at different generation. Younger generation has
no exposure to anything but fast moving, fast acting social
media expectation. The wild thing is the attention span is
not there, so is disintegrated your thoughts.
Speaker 10 (36:14):
It's a wonderful life. Sports highlights and you know what's
interesting too. What was impressive then versus now also changed.
My quick example would be you're seeing, guys, what did
Cam little kick the other day in practice seventy three
yard a seventy three yard field goal that they said
would have been good from seventy five and he just
missed a seventy five yarder and the other Eddie Pinero
(36:36):
and the Niners on Monday Night football, just for the
heck of it, tried like a sixty five yarder at
the half and it joinked off the thing.
Speaker 5 (36:42):
It was like, oh, man, if you tell kids, yeah,
the Buffalo Bills they've lost four Super Rolls in a row,
one because of a missed field goal, and you're they're thinking, oh,
what did the kicker miss like a sixty seventy fifty
yard field goal? No, it is a thirty nine yard
field goal.
Speaker 10 (37:01):
Scotty Norwood like, it's like looking, but we didn't think
it was a chip shot.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
Then yes, that's what I'm saying. They're saying through different
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Speaker 7 (37:43):
I mean, no, don't shame him. Don't do this. What
do you mean this? This is what you guys do
when one of us isn't here.
Speaker 5 (37:51):
I got listen, we.
Speaker 7 (37:52):
Don't get into this. He's got five kids, they're all
over the country. I got five that are young. We're
tied up with things. You're the one that would you know,
work from two to five am every night if if
given the opportunity.
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Speaker 7 (38:07):
We're building our family and we're we know, with our
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just tell you this because I know you were like
belittling the Hawaii Bowl. Okay, and I get it, whoa
(38:55):
whoa they playing?
Speaker 7 (38:56):
Was not belittling anything, just said where is the game played?
And you got defensive? Have your Rainbow Warriors coming back
and winning it because they're playing essentially a home game.
Speaker 5 (39:04):
And look, you know, yes, that is a home game.
And it's in front of a packed house of like
thirty five people. And look, I get all that, like,
all of that is well attended.
Speaker 7 (39:12):
There's a lot of there's a lot of Hawaiians there.
Speaker 5 (39:14):
You know, Hey, interesting camrangles. I'll just I'll just put
it that way, very very interesting. How they how they
present present that game. But you know they're working on
a new stadium. They're working on a new stadium. A
Loha stadium is gone and buried. So all of that
is is is a disappointment. But I will say this,
and I know that people dismiss Bowl games in general
(39:37):
these days and say, well, you know, who cares about this?
It's a goofy sponsor and nobody wants to be a
part of this and nobody wants to be it is
kind of cool to just have random college football games
on in the middle of the day during the holidays.
It is kind of cool. Like I mean, and I'm
not even saying from a gambling standpoint. You don't know
who you're betting on, and I get that it's an exhibition.
(39:58):
I still like random bowl games just thrown in in
the middle of a Friday, Like I just I like it,
and I'm never gonna not like it, and I hope
that it continues on for as long as it does,
because I think there is something fun about it. Maybe
I'm in the minority, but I'm a big fan of
these random games just in the middle of the week.
Speaker 7 (40:19):
Uh yeah, if we need like the bowl games to
be that, it's great. I guess like I love football,
I love any level of football, and seeing them on
at any point in time during the day, like that's
one of my favorite parts to it. I just I
think the tough thing is for where college football is at.
For the fan, that's what we love, that's what we've
always known, and unfortunately for the players and coaches this
(40:42):
time of year isn't that anymore. You know, these players
now are being asked to play an exhibition game with
a coach that may may not be staying, and it's
not usually a part of their deal, their contract. I mean,
that's as crazy as that sounds to admit. That's how
this works. You know, when you do a contract before
the season, sometimes there's some things laid in that out
(41:04):
in there, sometimes there's not. And these exhibition games are
ones that most of the agents at the college level
who represent players are probably not factoring those players into
playing those and it stinks, but it's where college football is.
It's now at a professional model. So I know it.
It's tough for us as fans to hear about these
(41:27):
guys opting out, guys who transfer the portal coaches, you know,
with one foot out the door. But this is that
the adults at the table have all made and we
now no longer have this amateur sport and important because
we've given power back to the players and they're and
they're utilizing that. They're getting compensated for what they should
have been compensated all along. And I looked up further
(41:48):
because it's funny you bring up like bullseason college football,
the thing that's like glaringly obvious to me. That becomes
like the biggest issue in college athletics is what we're
seeing in college basketball. Like you have players who have
been drafted that went overseas to play professional basketball that
are now joining teams with like a semester to play,
(42:11):
or players leaving like the G League. Right, it's like
coming back to college basketball. And then if that doesn't
tell you this model is completely jacked up, I don't
know what.
Speaker 5 (42:22):
Does shout out to? Uh, Brandon Whedon, Chris Wank. You know,
they were really ahead of their time, all right, they
were really ahead of their time.
Speaker 7 (42:28):
They were different, right, Like those are guys who played
professional sports in a different sport and then they came
back to football. These are guys who are the same sport.
It'd been like someone getting drafted in the sixth or
you know, fifth or sixth round and then you know
it doesn't work out for a year or even coming
back to college. You know that's the difference. Like, we've
never seen this this happening in college basketball right now?
Speaker 5 (42:52):
I where did like how did this whole thing start? This?
Like this it's basically banana land? Was this all part
of uh? Like covid. I was talking to my brother
last night because my nephew plays at Farris State. By
the way, just won another national championship, and he's going
to get a lot more burn time. No, uh, Antoine
(43:14):
de Mela, Yeah, he's gonna uh he's going to begin,
you know, his soul ami with the name that I
just tried to no, no, no, no no. And by the way,
if you are looking for your straight up white bread
name anywhere in the Knox family outside of the immediate family,
not happening. We shop in different aisles, right, There's like
there's there's something for everybody there it there's a real
(43:35):
pot luck. But like if you look at just sort
of where for his case for example. So he's going
to be getting a lot more burn time as you
call it, next year as a player because the six
year seniors are leaving. And then I believe that he
mentioned last night that there was a seven year guy
on the team, and I'm thinking of myself, wait, what
(44:00):
like you just like Tyler Shuck? I think I have this,
Like I think Tyler Shuck. Was he a teammate with
Justin Herbert at Oregon? I think he was.
Speaker 7 (44:11):
I think he played seven years, he's two way six now, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (44:15):
So where did this? Is this just the COVID year
just through everything for a loop. Is that where we're
at now?
Speaker 7 (44:21):
That was part of it. But I think even with
NIL once it was made legal state by state, what's
happened now is there's money involved, and all of these players,
it could be their families, their agents, they're all trying
to exhaust all efforts at earning whatever they can while
they can. And it's hard for me to look back
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at that and criticize it because I think most people
will do the same thing too if you're in that position.
And it's always funny to me when you hear critics
and people who comment against this and say, well, why
are they doing that? Why can't they just move on?
It's like, well, if you were getting potentially hundreds of
thousands of dollars to come you know, have your son play,
or you know daughter for that matter, maybe in some
(45:03):
other sports like you would exhaust all efforts too. So
as much as we want to criticize it, this is
a model that was essentially made by the NCAA out
of negligence, meaning they wanted to keep denying the fact
that This is where the sport was going at in
every sport, whether it's college basketball, you know, football, whatever
(45:24):
you want to talk about, this is where it was
going and everyone wanted to turn a blind eye to it.
And now we find ourselves in this position where I
think in men's college basketball it's never been worse. There
has never been a more confusing, crazy time in men's
college basketball than right now, where you've got legitimate, you know,
(45:45):
amateur athletes, guys coming from the high school level of
who are now competing with pros essentially that couldn't make
it in the NBA or maybe are getting paid more
now to come over from foreign professional leagues to playing
men's college basketball.
Speaker 5 (46:01):
It's crazy.
Speaker 7 (46:01):
And the thing that's crazy to me too, if we
want to make a parallel to just college football. Right now,
everyone loves March Madness, at least maybe besides maybe not
Joel Klatt based on some of his comments about Cinderelsy
that's that's his words, not Mineel Merry Christmas, but everyone,
maybe besides Joel, loves March Madness and loves the potential
(46:25):
of Cinderella stories. What I used to love, though, is
like knowing the players on the team and nowadays you
have no clue. There's it's so transient. There's so much
movement that there's guys who are there for one year.
There's guys who are you know, on different teams three
years in a row, all maybe the March Madness, you know,
debut with a different team each year. It's actually completely
(46:46):
taken away from the experience of it. Yes, you have
some crazy finishes and you've got your you know, sixteen
seed challenging and number one seed, and that's exciting and
I'm part of it. That's added a level of parody
to the game, but it's also taken away from you know,
being able for I think these tournaments and these teams
and these brands to be well known. I mean part
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of the history of like Duke North Carolina are some
of the players who played through multiple years of that
matchup against one another. And it's just tough now to
kind of look back on, you know, even some of
these the runs that some of those teams would have
in March Madness that they're not there anymore. It's hard
to have that consistent success. And maybe you say, well,
that's good because it creates an opportunity for other teams.
(47:29):
But is it, like, is this a world where we're
excited about college sports and what it's brought. It feels
like the conversation now is like leveled with what we're
seeing on the court, on the field, with what's happening
off of it. And I never feel like that's a
good thing for the sport as soon as the conversation
around the sport starts being more about everything other than
(47:50):
the sport itself. And I think that the NBA is
battling this right now. You've completely lost You've completely lost
your sport.
Speaker 5 (47:58):
By the way, you mentioned the Duke North Carolina rivalry
and all those players that went through all those years
of the rivalry, Like, how about the fact and I
know you know this, and we're going to talk with
Petros Papadakis coming up here shortly, but how about the
fact that there's going to be guys that attend USC
and Notre Dame who never know that rivalry, Like there's
(48:21):
going to be a gap of players who never took
part in that rivalry. It's kind of wild.
Speaker 7 (48:27):
It's a shame, And I understand from the Southern cal perspective,
but this would be my argument. I think out there
and a lot of people be like, oh, you're biased
or you're not objective because you went to Notre Dame.
You played, Look I did, but I lost SC in
every one of those matchups and im playing against them
(48:48):
in the greatest area or excuse me, era of SC football.
I think that's fair to say, and it's probably factual
at least during that time period where they won back
to back national championships, played for ARE and they were
in contention for it even my senior year when we
went out there. If they didn't I think, drop a game,
what was the UCLA maybe whoever they dropped the game
(49:09):
to at some point you know that season that caused
you know, Florida to go instead of SC. But I would.
I would go back and play those games and experience
it all over again, even if you know, again that
was the challenge of playing against the number one team
in the country every single one of those years and
knowing that, like, our program wasn't built back up to
(49:30):
that extent anymore, because that was part of the reason
why you went to Notre Dame. It was for the
Notre Dame SC game. It was for a lot of
those rivals that you played for. And I think the
tough thing for me with this entire conversation around this
rivalry that has existed since what nineteen twenty six. I
mean we've missed because of a world war in COVID.
That's the only two times the conversation about this rivalry
(49:54):
not being renewed. It didn't start with Notre Dame. It
started with Southern count I started with Lincoln Riley. He
was the first person that introduced this. And what's interesting
about that is he had two years in the PAC
twelve before that got dismantled or at least I should say,
transform to what it is today, where he didn't win
in the conference. You know, they struggled to beat Notre
(50:16):
Dame and so there was really no excuses then. But
I think when they moved into the Big Ten, they
realized like, oh, we actually have to play an even
tougher schedule now, and because of that, they viewed this
game as too big of a big of a challenge.
What's crazy to me, though, is like Pete Carroll would
have never ducked this game, never, And you've got a
(50:39):
head coach now that's willing to that's willing to throw
out history throw out tradition, and he's been enabled by
their athletic director in Jen Cohen, who should be able
to stand up and say, like, this is part of
the deal. When you took the job, you knew you
were going to play them every single year. That's part
of the deal. It's part of the job. Marcus Freeman
took it knowing that Brian Kelly took it knowing that
(51:00):
that's part of one of those games you get fired
up for. But because of SC's decision to then leave
the Pac twelve, which ultimately led to its crumbling, joined
the Big Ten, and because of their lack of success
and ability to compete, we now have a rivalry that
goes away because what's changed for Notre Dame in that
(51:22):
time absolutely nothing that changed head coaches, athletic director's presidents.
There was never a point in time where Notre Dame
asked to be out of this rivalry, even during my
era where we went to a couple back to back
BCS games where we could be competitive, but not to
the lengths of the team that was number one in
the country. Never and we've still remained independent, which a
(51:44):
lot of people hold against Notre Dame for that you know,
for why we've done it, and I don't have explain
this to you. I mean, there's a deep history to this.
It's deeply rooted in Notre Dame's Catholicism and the way
you know, Catholics at one point in time this country
were persecuted. And why Notre Dame became this national ran.
It wasn't because of you know, necessarily just because of
marketing and New Rockney. It had a lot to do
(52:05):
with the fact that there were teams that didn't want
to let us in the Western Conference, which became the
Big Ten because of their Catholic roots. So Notre Dame
went out traveling amongst the country to play whoever they
could play, and then became this national brand that was
born from that. So when people ask you to join
a conference, maybe they just don't really understand the roots
(52:25):
and the deep ti there is to Catholicism and why
that matters for everyone who's been a part of Notre
Dame since then. But I digress because it's not about that.
Speaker 5 (52:35):
To me.
Speaker 7 (52:35):
It's about se and it's about them not having any
success in this series of late making the decision to
join a conference now that they're having a hard time
competing in and then not having a head coach and
an athletic director that can stand up and say, you
know what, like, we're gonna keep doing this because we're
gonna get this right, because we believe that it will
eventually get back on top of that mountain. And you
can blame Notre Dame for saying like, well, obviously they
(52:57):
didn't concede that to se Which think about that matchup
in general, Jonas, they never played in the cold months
in South Bend. They play in October. It's not like
they're forcing s Seed have to play in inclement weather
like in the end of the season. They're playing in October,
there's still plenty of football left to be played. And
(53:18):
then Southern col gets to host at the end of
the season at their place, which plays all to their
advantage in that regard. So, even the way it's scheduled
as it was, it was never playing to the advantage
of Notre Dame. It was never forcing them to come
play in inclement weather at some point in November. In
South Bend, it's always played to that season advantage.
Speaker 5 (53:39):
Yeah, the whole thing.
Speaker 7 (53:41):
Is just it's sad. Yeah, And then the other thing
is at least you have people like Keishawn Johnson, you know, Patricks,
We're gonna talk to you here in a minute, coming
out and then calling them on it. And then you
have guys like Matt Leiner. Look, oh, you know, I
believe it's like, come on, dude, and I don't have
this argument with Matt, like on the phone through whatever,
Like it's Christmas, so I'm not gonna do that. But
it's sad for someone who had so much success in
(54:03):
the series, for someone who's been like you know him
and whoever else you want to talk about, who's been
in the history of SC, some of the greatest players.
The fact that you're not calling this out it's crazy
to me. Every SC player should, I would hope, unless
they're just scared of the matchup, because that's really what
it comes down to.
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