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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 3 (00:16):
It's life Searching fsr.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
AH.
Speaker 5 (00:20):
What an All Star game it was. Welcome in. It's
a Wednesday. You've made it to the middle of the week.
He's erin Torres. I'm Dan Beyer, Monty Belanos is here,
Jason Stewart, Ryan Smith, all hanging out after an epic
clash last night in Atlanta that Cavino and Rich took
in in watching the National League and American League come
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to a six all tie at the end of nine
and then having to settle it via the home run
derby part due and the National League end up getting
the victory. I loved it, loved every second of it.
Last night erin Torres.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
First of all, I was thinking that intro, you know
you and I are closing in on half of twenty years.
No cuddling for you and I either, but pleasure to
be here today with you.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
Here, here's the deal. Were you distracted by the moaning.
It's Manzi's intro that she hates the absolute most. But
it's the moaning intro that I think has been here
since day one. It did you hear the moan in
the intro?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Everyone heard the moan in the intro? All right? All right,
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
No, I have thoughts on the intro, but CNR are
the best, and I don't. I don't really get it,
to be honest, I don't know if like I have
to be a daily listener to understand or appreciate the humor.
I've never really understood it. But but yeah, zero cuddling
for us either. So that's an HR violet I think. Anyway,
All Star game, so yeah, no, I listen. It was
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it was I'll say this. I know we're obviously going
to focus on the ending. I thought it was just
a very well done night and celebration of baseball overall.
You had the Hank Aaron stuff, you know, Joe Tory
coming out there for half a second, players miked up,
Clayton Kershaw. You know, I'm throwing eighty eight down the
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middle here. Somebody helped me. I just thought it was
an awesome night overall, obviously capped by a very unique
and very fun ending there.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
It was an awesome night that we thought was going
to end with the National League running away with it,
but then it became a ballgame at the end, and
you throw that in and then you throw in the
drama like honestly as it as the game was progressing.
Of one of the things that we know that the
All Star Game will do is they will have some
sort of tribute, some bigger than others. And you mentioned
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that the one for Hank Aaron was last night, I
believe after the sixth inning is when they did it.
What's interesting about the Hank Aaron tribute is that they
are like a ballpark removed from the ballpark that it happened, alright,
so like this is the park and then previously was
Turner Field, which was the former Olympic Stadium, which was
right next door to Atlanta Fulton County Stadium where Hank
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Aaron hid that home run. So it missed the mark
with me on a little, especially when they had the
spot where Aaron's home run landed where it lit up.
But and I haven't been to the spot in a while,
I assume that it's still there. But the old Atlanta
Fulton County Stadium is right next to where the Olympic
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and where the Braves informally played. Now it's college football
stadium for Georgia State, I believe, plays there, but they
have the infield of Atlanta Fulton County Stadium paved with
the diamond, and there was a spot in the outfield
where the ball went over and where the ball hit.
So last night when you're seeing it on the All
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Star Game and you're seeing that tribute to Hank Aaron,
which you're right, it was one of the many great
things last night, Like the spot of that home run
and where it landed is very important to the Hank
Aaron story because we all remember that highlight and it
was just really neat to see you could park in
that parking lot in a Braves game. And then the
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inner walls of Atlanta Fulton County Stadium are still up
that it's not the outfield walls, but just of the
structure of where the stadium was because a little bit
of it went into the ground. But it's a neat
history thing for people that like to go back and
check out all ballparks, and I haven't been there in
about ten years, so I don't know if it's all
the same. But when I was there the last time,
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they had a diamond so you could see where Hank
Aaron stood and then you could see where the ball
landed because they had a section put out in that
parking lot of the fence and it was lit up,
and then the backdrop afterwards. It's really neat if you're
a baseball fantasy. But seeing that last night and being like, well,
this isn't the park, but they're still highlighting the place,
shutting down the lights, doing the run around the basis,
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I thought was really well done.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah, like I said, I thought it was.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
I thought it was just you know, listen, it is, ultimately,
you know, an exhibition game, and that's what we're going
to talk about how it ended. But I think given
that it's an exhibition game, and by the way, how
about this, given that quite literally every other All Star
game that we still have continues to fall flat on
its face and feel less and less what it's supposed
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to be about. I thought yesterday the return to the
standard you know, home road team uniforms, and on top
of all of that, all of the other cool stuff
they did to honor the president and past the game
I thought over all was really cool.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
I think there's some good and some bad because along
with that i'd put the bad of those hats. I
have no idea on what they're doing. Like with they
weren't they weren't crowned like they normally were. There was
no seam down the middle. Stars replaced the the poke
holes that you would have normally. It was a very
weird looking hat. I'm not a wasn't a huge fan
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of the All Star cap. Was just really really odd.
I didn't mind the ABS system. In fact, I liked
the ABS system last night because of the drama that
it provided. Sure, and to see it work on that stage. Now,
I don't know if you're going to have as many
smiles and laughs in a regular game or in a
playoff game with it, but I thought that portion of
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it worked really well. When you challenge a call and
then by a millimeter the ball hits the strike zone
and Randy or Rose Arena ends up striking out on
a call it went the other way on a previous scenario.
I think the drama of it, which is what I
always loved about cyclops in tennis is there was drama
whether the ball was in or out. Sure, so you
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have this whole progression of is it in? Is it out?
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (06:31):
It was really close, So then if it's really fire,
you're like, oh, that was an awful challenge. It wasn't
even close. I thought last night, I thought that it
worked really, really well. And if you're Major League Baseball
and want to put this in, I think that last
night was a huge win for you.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah, it's interesting only from the perspective that, like you said,
it being an all Star game. I don't know, Like
we obviously need to keep human umpires, and it's this
I get that sometimes there's a better way to do stuff.
All you're doing is setting yourself up to have pissed
off umpires NonStop. And maybe it doesn't matter, and maybe
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you don't care, and maybe is maybe that maybe whatever,
Maybe it's just about getting it right.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
I just for balls and strikes. I don't know. It's cool.
I'm watching it right now on my computer. It is cool.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Like you said in tennis, it works, we figured it out.
It's not a huge deal. Whatever. It just I don't know,
it feels it. Maybe it's like anything else. Maybe it'll
just take a little getting used to so.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
What I don't I just I don't like the middle
man of it. I feel you go all in or
you don't exactly on it. Like if you're gonna go
all in, you're going all in that then the strike
zone is the strike zone, because otherwise, if a guy
is not calling a strike throughout the game, meaning an umpire,
and then you challenge it and exactly side strike and
then all of a sudden you go to the abs
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and he's been calling that a ball all along and
now it's a strike. I think that you're like, you're
screwed in that essence. But I think that last night,
like the takeaway from it, and we could get into
the pluses and minuses of it, but the takeaway of
it is you put it in that setting, You make
it in a spot where people are laughing and enjoying
it and adding some drama for major League Baseball. That's
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the biggest win that you can have. Maybe Randia rose
Arena doesn't care if he strikes out last night on
a bad call or a call that ended up being overturned,
But if the Mariners are fighting for a wild card
spot or fighting for the Al West Division and on
the final weekend you get a call like that, completely
different reaction, But it doesn't matter for Major League Baseball.
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Is the system would already push in. Like last night's
referendum on it was overwhelmingly positive for a transition to
the ABS system.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, no, And I again I think that yes it is.
It can be viewed as positive because in theory it
is a step in the right direction, and in theory
it is ultimately about getting the call right.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
I guess just what I.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Would say is that, like like I said, I there's
a difference between doing it because you want to get
every call right, which I know in theory we all
want to do. And then to your point, it being
Game one sixty two and a playoff, berth is on
the line and you think it went one way and
you thought it went on another way, And then to
your point, there's going to still be the human element
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of umpiring and a strike zone even if you have ABS.
I guess it, like I said, and like you said,
it was cool in the moment.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I'm just a little skeptical about it working bigger picture.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
Jason Stewart loves the ABS system. The show's executive producer,
you've always wanted it. Did you feel last night portrayed
what could be the future of Major League Baseball?
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (09:38):
Absolutely it did. My take going into the game was
that MLB was doing the umpires at a service by
having ABS in an All Star game where you're supposed
to be celebrating all the great aspects of the game.
But everything you talked about the laughter after they were
reversed and then the entire audien was seeing a massive
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flaw in the game right now, which is the technology
caught up to the umpires a long time ago. So
the umpires on a night to night basis, if you're
watching important games, you see the umpire screwing up every time.
So my thing was, why roll it out for an
exhibition game when you could actually just have it in
place for games that matter in the postseason. I'm all
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for it. You're not going to lose any home playing
umpire jobs. They still have plenty to do behind the plate,
But stop embarrassing your umpires. Everything that we loved about
ABS last night was that's the expense of one guy
that was getting the call wrong.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Right.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
Yes, I felt bad for who got the home run
of the homeplate assignment. Yeah, like in finding out Like,
guess what, honey, I got the nod. I'm going to
be the home played umpire for the All Star Game,
and I'm going to be second guests throughout because of
all the calls that I made, like nobody else is.
Like if you're at first base and you're the first
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base ump, who cares?
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Second base?
Speaker 5 (11:04):
Same thing, right field line, left field line, which I
think they have in the All Star Game like they
do in the postseason.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Who cares?
Speaker 5 (11:10):
But home plate ump gets screwed last night? To that effect,
if you are if they do go full time abs,
just give the ump a chair back there during that
bat and then when the action happens and you need
to call a guy out at home then you can
stand up. But I think that that just have them
sit back and chill behind the catcher, that would be
the way to go. They could test that out at
next year's All Star Game. That would be a fun
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thing to test out official chair.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Well, yeah, it gets complicated with wild pitches and things
of that nature, but uh, that would.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Be put some rollers on it. There's there's stuffing.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
Lazy Boy, the new official sponsor of Major League Baseball,
the in game interviews, too much we were Fox Sports?
Was it too much by Fox hust standard or just enough?
Again It's I feel like I'm being negative. It was
an all some event.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
It worked because it was the All Star game, like
Clay and Kershaw, you know, joking about yeah, yeah, throwing
it right now in.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
The middle, you know, wish me luck.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Like that's fun when you're thirty eight years old and
you know that this is going to be your last
All Star game and you're just there to have a
good time. You know, two things, two things. One can
be weird for the players. I'll also say this in theory,
it sounds fun for the fans. A lot of fans
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don't like it though. Like I was watching, I was
somewhere and I believe it was a Subway Series game.
But there was a Sunday night game with the Mets
and they miked up Lindor and they were talking to
him during the game and they were talking, you know,
they were showing his wife and you just had baby
number two or three or whatever it was, and you
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go on social media, and I know social media is
in a direct reflection, but it was like, dude, I'm
not a fan of the Mets.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
I don't want to hear this.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
I don't care about his wife and how they travel
and hit kid number two versus kid number three, and
I had to be mean to his wife and his kids.
But I'm just saying and so again, I thought it
worked because it's the All Star Game, but I do
think if it becomes a one sixty two kind of
deal one hundred and sixty two games, then it's almost
like the interview with the NBA coach after the first quarter,
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where like Greg Popovich clearly doesn't want to do it,
but clearly has to do it. And I would worry
that it would be a little bit of a beating
a dead hory.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
I felt they probably did a little too much. And
I also would say this, I think you can't start
with the starting pitcher because everything else is less Like
I would build up to it, like if you want
to talk to the first baseman, talk to Pete crow
Armstrong in the outfield like they did. And there was
a point where he and Kyle Tucker or Cubs teammates,
where do you have that ball or not? So it
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was great because he was miked up at the time.
But you're not going to get better than Errek skuballt
I'm saying getting shelled in Schooball relation because he rarely does,
but of him giving up hits and runs and you're
miked up in the first inning, like how do you
top that? Like it was like to me, that was
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the high point, and nothing that you could say to
Matt Olsen in the eighth when he's playing first base
could come close to what it's like to Trek Scubell,
who's likely on his way to winning another cy Young Award,
actually getting ruffed up, like there was nothing that you
could do from that. So that may have just been
bad luck by Fox, but ultimately it's different if you
have Lindor or if you have Pca out in the
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outfield getting interviewed. The top level is the pitcher, and
I felt like they started out it's like if you're
a rock band, you start out with your like here's
the rest of the concert. That's what I think last
night at least could have been better. And then there
were a lot of there felt like there were a
lot of interviews, Like when they got to Matt Olsen,
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basically all you're saying is like, what do you think
of Maserowski throwing heat right now, you got to love
these fans, all right, thanks Matt seal later, like you know,
and that's in the you know, that's in the eighth inning,
so there's only so much you could do with it.
But I do think to get scooball to be able
to talk like he did in that scenario was ultimately
a huge win.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah, Like I and I think there's a difference between
how they handled it last night, with the number of
interviews they did and you know, having one or two
situations over the course of a game. You know, to me,
it almost equates to the Manu cast, right, Like the
Manu Cast is kind of fun if there's a unique
guest or whatever. But it's like, I don't know that
I want, at least I don't I can't speak. I
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don't want four quarters of the Manu cast. Now, Like
if it's Brady on during a Patriots game and they're whatever,
that's different. And so I just bring up because I
feel like that's kind of how I feel about the
micd up players.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
Well, I think ultimately what everybody is talking about it
leads us to the end. And I don't believe that
Major League Baseball had a list of players. I don't
think that that was the case. I've been into a
few All Star games before I even told Manci yesterday.
I was at the one in New York that ended
up at We were there at like one thirty five
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in the morning. Like it just kept there was extra
innings and going and going. And I remember because we
had postgame duties that were sitting in the tunnel at
about you know, maybe the ninth or tenth inning, just
kind of waiting for the game to end and somebody
to score and to go in. And the co worker
that I was with New Francisco, Rodriguez, Ky Rod and
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so like like he walked by and was like, Hey,
what's up. So he's a reliever. His night's done, so
he's gone. The game's still going on. Like Derek Scooble
probably wanted to leave, but he's like, well, if I'm
going to be on the hook for the loss, I'm
sure they're going to want to talk to me. But
he's out there at the bottom of the ninth inning
and street clothes and John Hayman had a tweet that
said this list was predetermined, but there were some alterations
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due to travel issues. Yeah, guys just take off. That
was the problem with two thousand and two is people
were also like players, weren't there anymore? Players leave the
home run Derby early because they got parties and places
to go to and people to see. And now, like
your All Star break is Tuesday night until you go
back to your team maybe on Thursday for these teams,
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so you want to have like thirty six hours to
wherever you go. So I don't think it was predetermined,
because there's no way that you have a Randa hitting
eleven home runs being your third home run hitter, not
that you would bring Judge to be like Aaron, I
got some bad news.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
You gotta go put the uniform money. Yeah he has.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
If you want to do it in jeans, that's fine,
go right ahead, which I thought would have been great.
But for a the ending was great, like Kyle Schwarber
made it the moment again, I think that some of
it was fly by the seat of the pants on. However,
they were gonna do it. I like this home run
Derby better than the one that we saw Monday night. Yeah,
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and just doing it in terms of swings, guys getting
their their reps and but to have Schwarber end it
the way that he did, to have it be drama
filled with the al taking their the lead rooker hit
a couple and you're like, wow, you had two out
of three. How's the NW gonna respond? There was gamesmanship
of it, Like, ultimately, that is all we're gonna remember.
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We can talk about abs, we could talk about it
in game interviews, we could talk about Misarowski being snubbed
and then Ken Rosenthal asking him about it in the dugout,
all of that. What we're gonna remember is what Kyle
Schwarbur did last night, and ultimately that's the biggest win
Major League Baseball could have.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Well, you brought up an interesting point in our apprecial meeting,
which is that, you know, people say, oh, it's the
best All Star Game since and it's like, I don't
really remember a lot about Pray, but it's like a compare.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
I have no idea. Yes, But to your.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Point, everyone's gonna remember how it ended, and everyone's going
to remember this was the first of potentially you know,
there's potentially times in the future where's gonna happen, but
this is the first time that we saw it, and
I you know, I like it because it's fun. It
stays with the theme of All Star weekend of it's
an exhibition.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
It's a celebration of baseball.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I know I keep saying that, but it's like, you know,
I know that for some they want the nice, clean
resolution of a winner and a loser.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
It's an exhibition. That's ultimately all that it is.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
And I think sometimes we get so caught up and
everything has to be this super serious, super whatever thing.
And to me, this is like, you know, the Bowl
game that they pour mayo on the coach at the end,
like it's okay to have fun at a bowl game.
It really doesn't mean anything. In the All Star Game, obviously,
since we've taken away home field advantage really doesn't mean anything.
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So have fun, be cool. This is cool ending.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
I want to ask Bonsi because she had information earlier
on there was a player that wanted this maybe ending
to go further. But just for what you said, Jason Stewart,
you kind of were put in your place kind of
what Aaron Torres was just saying right now by someone
last night on social media.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
Oh yeah, I mean to your point, Dan, I had
criticized Fox Bean and Trek scuoble, scoopball, scooblo his ear.
They put a graphic up he's never give up more
than three hits in an inning or something. I'm like, yeah,
because he's never had Joe Davis talking to him in
the middle of a wind up before.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
This is weird.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
I thought it was weird, so I put out a tweet,
a snarky tweet, as I do, and some guys like, dude, yeah,
I guess it would be a big deal if it
wasn't wasn't an exhibition game and this game doesn't count.
And he basically said relax. And I'm like, you're right.
As long as you accept everything is a circus, then
why be offended by anything that happened last night.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Yeah, and if you're playing a football game in the
Bahamas in December, you know we don't need it.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
You get to play. Yeah, yeah, I understand who said what.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Logan Webb mentioned that he has a group text going
on and that the players instead group text feel that
they should do this instead of playing an extra inning game,
that they should just do it like that.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
I don't agree with that.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
I think that last night was fun and for the moment,
I go ahead Manci.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
I was just going to add that.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Apparently Justin Turner said this in twenty twenty that when
the game is still tied after ten innings, it should
be a home run derby, and so now that story
is tracking again because he said this in twenty twenty,
and so after yeah, that it should be a home
run derby to decide games tied after ten innings.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
It's the most I guess, direct relation to what a
shootout would be in hockey, you know, pks and soccer
like that sort of thing, like that's that's kind of
the equivalent of it. I know people don't like the
runner starting at second I actually do. I think that
it's I think that it's an interesting twist a little
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bit in college Like in college football, their overtime isn't perfect,
but if you don't cash in on your possession to
start changes everything. So every play means something. And I
feel that like if you're in an extra inning game
and you have a runner on second base, if you
don't cash in in the top half, like oh boy,
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this is this is gonna be a little this is
gonna be tricky. Maybe maybe you don't want to put
them at second, Maybe you want to put the runner
at first, but in a way to I don't mind it.
I think this would be hokey to do it, because
then it's just like, well, guess what we got Aaron Judge,
you know, the Yankees one and forty two and one
in extrating game, you know, like like that's what like
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like that's what it would end up coming down to.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Well, and I think it's very uh twenty twenty five one,
everything being in the moment at this exact second, and
then to everybody having access to a phone and social media,
and I include myself. I'm guilty of tweeting in the
moment sometimes, but it's like it is, to your point,
very stupid.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
You know.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Again, it's fun on July fifteenth at the All Star Game.
That ultimately means nothing to your point, Yankees whatever, Orioles
Game one sixty two. You gotta win to get in.
And it's like, oh, and by the way, counter that
so and so's hurt, so and so's this. We're a
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pitching and defense team that isn't built on home runs?
Speaker 1 (23:10):
What about the ballpark?
Speaker 2 (23:11):
You know, it's a short porch and right, but we're
on the road and we don't have any lefties. It's
just it's just such the gen Z. Like and I
sound like such an old man, it's such the gen
Z in the moment, this is the coolest thing ever.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
We have to do it.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
No, it's it was cool in the moment. That doesn't
mean it'd be cool in every moment.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
I won't even blame gen Z.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
What I'm gonna say is, it's when you go on
vacation you're like, we should move here. Yes, No, it's awesome.
It's because you're on vacation. Yeah, Like if you were
there fifty two weeks out of here, it's probably not
as great. You know what, It's awesome to stay at
a hotel room for like a weekend. My son loves
the hotel. He has no idea what it's like to
live in a hotel for like eight straight days and
you just can't wait to leave. You have to eat
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out every night, which I know may sound awesome, but
it's not that awesome.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
That's what this is.
Speaker 6 (23:57):
It's like a date. On any Batchelor show. One of
the one of the two of the couple always says
the following, I can get used to this. Yeah, a
resort on an island on TV. Yeah, were your foods free?
Speaker 5 (24:13):
I can get used to that date when Yeah, I
don't have to pay for you know, the room or
any of the extra stuff.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Yeah. I haven't met your parents yet. Yeah, exactly all right.
He's erin Torres.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
I'm Dan Bayer, Monty Bellanios, Jason Stewart, Ryan Smith are
here as we are in for Cavino and Rich, who
were in for Dan Patrick earlier today in Atlanta as
they were at the All Star festivities.
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eyes were basically on the All Star Game last night,
but there was another game taking place, and there was
a point where I changed channels Aeron Torres. I switched
over to ESPN to see what the scene was like
as Caitlin Clark in the Indiana Fever to Gon the
Connecticut Sun in Boston, Massachusetts, TD Garden home of the Celtics,
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eighteen thousand seats donned with orange Sun T shirts. And
I said when we left yesterday's show that we're gonna
see a huge sign of growth from the WNBA if
that arena is orange, and Caitlin Clark gets booed, so
I turned over. In the first half, I did not
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hear any poing of Caitlin Clark. The arena was not orange.
In fact, hardly anybody wore their orange shirts. That by
the way, we're free. It was the exact opposite of
the Oklahoma City Thunder. In fact, I saw more Caitlin
Clark's shirts at the Connecticut Son home game than I
did of the Connecticut Son. I couldn't have been more
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wrong on what we saw last night. The WNBA hasn't
grown as much as I thought that it possibly could,
because Aaron I thought, hey, the Connecticut Son, maybe they're
trying to expand their fan base. And now their new rival,
the Indiana Fever, with the villain of Caitlin Clark and
Sophie Cunningham are coming into town. Nobody cared. Everybody wore
their Caitlin Clark stuff and that's why they had eighteen
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thousand there. Once again, same old story.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
So a couple of things.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
One Caitlin Clark is no one's villain except for Angel
Reese and maybe Archie. I'm a little confused as to
what's going on there anyway. Beyond that, this to me
is a small scale metaphor for you know how, it's
like a conversation. The WNBA literally makes the wrong decision
at every single turn. I'm gonna go super Northeast bro here,
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but the folks of Boston do not care about anything
to do with Connecticut. Literally nothing, And I can promise
you that no one in Boston is like, Wow, I
don't have a WNBA team, but there's a team an
hour and a half down the road in beautiful Uncasville, Connecticut.
So I'm gonna start rooting for them. That's not how
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I listen Boston people. They have their own vibe whatever,
That's not how people in Boston think. If you're not
of Boston about Boston, you're not getting on the freaking
you know what's not the bandwagon is the word I'm
looking for. So they could have played this game in
Hartford in front of eighteen thousand people. I don't know
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why they went to Boston. They're not going to expand
people in Boston are not going to care about a
team from Connecticut. Weird vibes all around. Not surprised that
it was mostly Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
We knew why the game was moved and it's because
of Caitlin Clark. As you mentioned, they did it against
the Chicago Sky recently. They're going to do it against
Dallas coming up in a couple of weeks as well.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Can I make one quick analogy, Yes, it would be
like the San Francisco Giants being like, you know, we
really want to expand our fan base. Let's play some game,
Let's play some home games at Dodger Stadium, like there
would not be people in LA like California. Yeah, deal, Yeah,
we're all in this together.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
That's not how it works the Angels.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
The Angels actually did try that, so considering the Los
Angeles Angels of Anaheim, Jason Stewart had another comparison on
what the Connecticut Sun tried to do last night.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
It would be like it would be like you go
into a Harlem Globetrotter's game. I don't know if you
guys have been. I took my son there. I actually
liked it a lot. And then you show up and
then on the seats are T shirts for Washington Generals.
Like everyone's going to put on a general's T shirt
to watch the Globetrotter.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
Oh, you're right, very very fair, I said. I took
a screen grab. I just it was middle of the
second quarter. I said it to Jason and Monsey. I
took three separate camera shots.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Waiting, just hoping to see that orange. Yeah, and by
the way, it was a bright orange. It wasn't like
like you could see them so you could see who
was and who wasn't, and nobody was wearing those jerseys
last night. It was it was, it was, it would
clark Fest once again, and then you got injured at
the end.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Which is concerning in its own right. With All Star
weekend coming.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
Up, Mancy Bilanios is here to give us the latest
and so much more were used to you weren't surprised
at all for seeing that.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
I was not super surprised, but we had talked about it,
so I also kept going back and forth trying to
like see the start and watch the All Star game,
and I was like, nobody's writing the shirt. Are we
sure they gave them the shirt? Because no, he was
wearing it, so nobody was like playing with it, Like
I couldn't see it.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
There were a random enough T shirts, and I knew
what I was looking for, So if you didn't know
what you were looking for, like an orange shirt, you
wouldn't have known that they had given out out ten
thousand free shirts. But I knew it, so I could
see like specks of it, like maybe like a pixel
here and a pixel there. But I mean when I
say there were maybe ten in the three different pictures.
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I took one of Aleah Boston was shooting a free throw,
so you have like the main camera where there's the
people behind the bench, and I took it no shirts,
and I'm like, well, that's behind the fever bench. Why
would they be wearing it like it behind the Fever's
Let's be fair. Then I took another one behind the
sun bench, maybe one T shirt there, and then another
one which had from behind the basket so you could
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see the lower bowl other end of the court, pretty
wide shot, and I counted maybe like five orange T
shirts in that spot.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
I just really Chase, did you ever live in the Northeast?
I know you've worked all over I'm not trying to
be sarcastic. He did you ever live in the Northeast?
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Never? Never?
Speaker 6 (31:06):
My entire family is from Syracuse, New York, but I've
always lived out here.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
I just cannot emphasize how little people from Boston care
about anything that's not Boston related, Like the angry guys
from Goodwill hunting that is really Boston, Like the how
you like them.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Apple slamming the window?
Speaker 7 (31:22):
That is the entire city of Moncey lived three years
in Vermont Montpellier's own No, no, no, So you're saying,
Aaron Torres that that it's not reciprocal, where like people
in Maine cheer for the Patriots.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
No, it's the reverse.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Yeah, so people in Maine, New Hampshirelandy, New England, Rhode
Island thinks it's it thinks it's Boston and uh in Maine,
New Hampshire, and Vermont all due root for the Boston teams.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
I don't know why Connecticut.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
I think, you know, Connecticut's between New York and Boston,
and so this Massachusetts, so the state is divided.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
But Boston people are not coming down to.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Connecticut for their sports, them for their sports fandom or interests.
And I think it's even more secular is probably not
the right word. But New York's a little bit different
New York, believe it or not. New York's a little
bit more like, you know, they'll come up to connect
Whatever the point is, it was, it was a doomed
concept from the start. And there is an eighteen thousand
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seat basketball arena in Harford that they very easily could
have done this, that they might have actually gotten some orangein.
But you're not going to expand the fan base up well.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
Kitler Clark I mentioned was injured last night. To find
out her status and so much more, let's go back
to Manti with her music playing.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
What is going on?
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (32:46):
She was listened as questionable as you mentioned, Dan. She
exited in the final minute of last night's when at
TD Garden against the Sun, holding her right groin, and
she has officially been ruled out for tonight's game against
the Liberty. It's the second nind of a back to
back game tip soft at four thirty Eastern and Aarin.
As you mentioned, WNBL Star Weekend starts this Friday with
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the three point shooting contest that Clark.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Is scheduled to participate.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
No word on that right now, but she's been ruled
out for tonight's game against Sabrina Escu and the Liberty.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
That would be a fun event. Caitlin Clark in a
chair for the three point context, right, since everybody else
had big, big, big hour for chairs on the show.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
That's a worst case scenario for the WNBA.
Speaker 6 (33:28):
How about a.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Wheelchairs Just let a roller, you know, behind from one
little station to the next.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
She has to participate somehow, right, I think that's interesting.
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He said, if he could get it on his first swing,
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of the day in golf is going to be coming
up over the next four days. We'll probably have some
golf ighlights at least that, by my request, just put
it in the back of your mind. Looking back at
the US Open that happened last month at Oakmont, JJ Spahn,
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the great putts that ended up clinching the victory. All
he needed to do was two putty decides to make
it from sixty five feet or whatever. One of the
lasting images from Oakmont, But another lasting image was Wyndham
Clark's damaged locker that he wrecked in the locker room
at Oakmont Country Club, and now the club has decided
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to fight back. Golf Digest obtained a letter that was
sent to membership saying this, Several of you have inquired
about the situation involving Wyndham Clark and the steps taken
in response to his recent behavior. Following multiple discussions with
the USGA and the OCC Board, a decision has been
made that mister Clark will no longer be permitted on
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OCC property. The decision will remain in effect unless formally
reconsidered and approved by the board. Reinstatement would be contingent
errin upon Clark fulfilling a number of specific conditions, including
full repayment of damages, a meaningful contribution to charity of
the Board's choosing, and the successful completion of counseling or
anger management sessions. Thank you for understanding and continued support.
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So Oakmont is not messing around, And I absolutely love
it because Windom Clark acted like an absolute brat in
that situation, and it's something that's kind of been following
Wyndam Clark around throughout his career, his inability to contain
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his emotions. Now, the US Open isn't going back to
Oakmont until I believe twenty thirty three, so it would
be eight years before Wyndham Clark would be able to
step on the grounds. But still you have to take
a stand. And if Wyndom Clark doesn't abide by these rules,
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despite him being a US Open champion, his exemption would
run out just prior to I believe that US Open,
but he would not be allowed back on the grounds.
I love it, I absolutely love them taking a stand.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
All I was gonna say was excuse me is that
I love it because it shows that nobody is bigger
than in this case, the course. I mean, I you
don't want to say the sport, right, but what are
our constant complaints about athletes demanding trades athlete? You know,
this whole situation with Lebron James in with Los Angeles Lakers,
him acting like he's bigger than the organization. Why wasn't
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I consulted on this? Why aren't we putting together a
championship team? And it's like, I like the course, taking
the stand, and I do feel like that's a golf thing,
you know, the Masters where.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
This weekend, take it or leave it.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
This is how we do things at Augusta National whatever.
So I'm just I actually think it's pretty cool. You know,
we'll see if it actually impacts anything, but think it's
prety cool.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
I get twenty thirty three would be the final year
of his exemption, so he would be he's cleared to play.
You get a ten year of exemption into the US
Open if you win it, so it would be in
that window. But the point is is he was a guest,
you know, similar to come over to your house and
do something like that. Yeah, you wouldn't be necessarily happy
about it, and I'm glad.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
They took action. They didn't they didn't need to.
Speaker 5 (38:21):
I'm actually glad that it became public. I don't think
that it was mysteriously leaked either. I think there are
a lot of members that wanted to say, we're not
going to put.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Up with this here. Yeah, nobody's bigger than the course.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
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