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May 23, 2025 37 mins

Dan Beyer and NBA Veteran Ryan Hollins, in for Covino & Rich, preview Game 2 between the Pacers and Knicks and explain why Knicks fans need to be getting their way into the Garden no matter the price of the ticket. Dan says good riddance to a prominent sports talk show. Plus, Monse brings the heat on the Rockies and Juan Soto in this edition of "According To Monse!"

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 3 (00:19):
All Right, hanging out on a Memorial Day weekend, Welcome
in getting set for tonight's game two of the Pacers
nixt series in Madison Square Garden. How much would you
pony up for tonight's game? And if you're a Knicks fan,
do you hold off? Do you wait for maybe something more?
All those questions answered in so much more.

Speaker 4 (00:39):
You're ready that for a dollar.

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Speaker 3 (01:02):
So is Moncey Belaios at the News Dusk. Hello, Monsei,
how are you Hi?

Speaker 6 (01:07):
What's up? How are we?

Speaker 4 (01:09):
We are great?

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Ryan Berschinger our executive producer today it's going on. Bursch
and Chris Purphett, our technical producer, hanging out Hi, Yes,
group effort here on Fox Sports Radio, and Ryan Hollins
Tonight at last check, three hundred and ninety seven dollars
to get into tonight's Game two. Maybe not hot as

(01:31):
hot of a ticket as it was for Game one,
but still a significant price to pay if you want
to be in the garden tonight? Is it worth the
four hundred bucks if you're a Knicks fan to pony
up for that ducat this evening?

Speaker 4 (01:47):
It is?

Speaker 7 (01:48):
And you know, you don't get opportunities like this all
the time. I think, if you have a chance to go,
you've got to go. It's going to be the hottest
thing in town. And you know what, Dan, We've talked
about this. When the knickser, whether you love them or
hate them, it's good for basketball.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
Man.

Speaker 7 (02:02):
They have such a fan base. There's such a thing,
you know, And you would think that the better players
on the Western Conference side, you got an MVP, you
got potentially Anthony Edwards, the next face of the League.
Nobody wants to watch that game. I mean, we watched it,
but as a whole, it was that Knicks game Knicks
Indiana that brought it out. And with all due respect,

(02:23):
clearly Indiana wasn't, you know, the team that everybody knew about.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
They want to see the Knicks now.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
There's obviously things are more expensive in New York. There
is more pizazz. And let's be honest, the Knicks have
the home court right now, so they had games one
and two. But for example, Minnesota down two zero in
their series with the Thunder, lowest price ticket for tomorrow
night's game in Minneapolis is one hundred and twenty two dollars.
It's the lowest price that you can get on the

(02:50):
secondary market, if you're following the secondary market that ESPN
has up on their web page. I'm sure there are
other tickets that are priced somewhere in the ballpark, but
the point being, it's about one hundred and twenty bucks
to get into the Timberwolves and Thunder tomorrow night with
their home team being down two to oh as opposed
to the four hundred dollars for tonight's.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
Game two in New York, when the Knicks are down one.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Oh, but this also on the heels of where it
was like one thousand dollars to get in game one,
Like there's still a buzz though, to get into the
to the arena. And that's kind of where we take
today's Cavino and Rich show in terms of tickets, what's
worth it, what's not worth it? And not even Ryan

(03:34):
how much would you pay, but just the simple fact.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
Of how do you pick?

Speaker 3 (03:39):
How do you go about deciding, because not everybody like, yeah,
we're gonna see Ben Stiller at all the games because
he's Ben Stiller, and Tracy Morgan's gonna be there, and
just like the Laker fans, they've got their season tickets,
we're gonna see them every game. But that's not the
average fan. And I feel that there is a lot
that goes into the average and deciding if you're going

(04:01):
to go to a game or not, whether it's just
a normal game or one with high stakes like the playoffs.
There's just a lot that goes into deciding on if
you're going to go to that game, do you save
the money for another contest? There's a lot that goes
into it.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
Yeah, no, it does.

Speaker 7 (04:17):
I mean I think you gotta go, you gotta support,
and you got to understand just New Yorkers have a
love hate relationship with their team and that's just kind
of like what it's gonna be. And I guess it's
kind of like the unrest of being a New Yorker.
You know, you you they they love and hate the Knicks.
I mean, if you heard the passion that they speak

(04:39):
about their team with, it's, you know, like they I mean,
you don't know if they again, I guess they equally
love and hate them. And there's just a unique thing
Dan Bier's about being a New Yorker that I, as
a California guy, don't necessarily understand. But I mean, they're
just full on bashing and crazy words, and I think
it's the you know, it's it's a true obsession, man,

(05:01):
it really is.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
I get it. I totally understand you. I you I do.

Speaker 7 (05:08):
I hear you talk like that, though when it comes
to you know, your team or teams.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Well, my team got ousted in five games by the Pacers,
and what has been a a boring lull of season
after season ever since they were ousted by the Celtics
and the Eastern Conference semifinals, like there was hope that
when the Bucks got Damian Lillard it did provide energy.
And then you're like, wait a second, these ingredients aren't mixing,

(05:35):
and so now you're like, okay, here's more of the same.
The Bucks can't make it out of the first round,
so it's tough to get up and excited for it.
But I will say this in two thousand and one,
in deciding to get tickets for the Bucks playoff run,
I went to Game one of their Eastern Conference semi
final series against the Charlotte Hornets. And the reason that

(05:57):
I went to game one was because he was on
a weekend. I didn't live in Milwaukee. I lived about
two and a half hours away. Was in one of
my early radio jobs, and we scored tickets for game
one of their series against Charlotte. And when you're talking
about decisions, and you're talking about decisions as fans, everything

(06:20):
is not like all games aren't up for discussion. There
were fans that were priced out of Game one. So
for as much as you wanted to go to game one,
there are just some fans that aren't gonna pony up
for the tickets. In my case of looking at the schedule.
I didn't know if there was going to be a
game seven, had no idea if they were going to

(06:40):
go seven games against Charlotte. They ended up doing that.
They ended up winning and facing the sixers of the
Eastern Finals. But what I did is I cashed in
my chips and said, We're going to game one of
the Eastern Semis against Charlotte.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
And it was amazing.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
And I still have the towel from the game twenty
four years later, so I do know something about that.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
Manzi is a Clippers fan.

Speaker 6 (07:03):
I was ready, right, you know.

Speaker 8 (07:06):
That's why I love you so much, because I was
cheering for you for for you know, for when I
was little, and I just like I not, so you're.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
Not that little. Don't do don't do that. Don't do that.
I do that to damn buyers do but you don't
do that to me.

Speaker 8 (07:21):
I'm just joking, but you know, you know that I
was ready to drop thousands of dollars because I thought
I was going to the finals. Ryan, I like, I was,
I'm ready to go to the finals. I'm ready, I'm ready.
And then you know, and then what did you?

Speaker 4 (07:33):
You went to a playoff game didn't.

Speaker 8 (07:34):
I did, of course I know, but I was saying
I would have dropped even more money for the finals.

Speaker 6 (07:38):
But I did go to a playoff game.

Speaker 8 (07:40):
Uh, and it was you know, not four hundred bucks,
but I had some some pretty good seats.

Speaker 6 (07:46):
But yeah, no, I was ready. I was ready. You
have to you have to go, Like if you're a
Knicks fan, they haven't been in the.

Speaker 8 (07:52):
Eastern Conference finals in twenty five years, Madison Square Garden, Like,
you have to try and go, there's no question.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
But what game did you did you go to?

Speaker 8 (08:01):
I went to game four, so game two at into
It Dome, which was on a Saturday, and that was
a driving force. Yes that I that it wasn't a weekday,
because yes, all.

Speaker 6 (08:14):
Of that did matter.

Speaker 8 (08:15):
But I was like, I have to go, like I'm
gonna go, and you can't wait because like obviously you
don't expect your team to get swept or like a
gentleman sweep, so you kind of have to like pull
the trigger early, even though you wanting to be at
a game seven is also like awesome, but you can't
you know, plan for that.

Speaker 6 (08:31):
So yeah, no, you gotta pull the trigger. You gotta go.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
You gotta go this is but this is what Mansy
was saying that leads up to it.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
And the game four that she saw was you saw
the you saw the comeback.

Speaker 6 (08:43):
Right yeah?

Speaker 8 (08:44):
Yeah, no, no, yeah, I saw the Aaron Gordon yes, yes,
and then the put back and that shouldn't begin.

Speaker 6 (08:50):
It should not have counted.

Speaker 4 (08:51):
No one, Yeah that was reviewed.

Speaker 6 (08:55):
Yeah, no. The problem sorry, so I just let me
just say this.

Speaker 8 (08:58):
The problem was that in that moment, I don't believe
any of those refs knew what the answer was. So
you should have said, no, it's not a good basket,
then go review it and then you can overturn it.
But then you can't overturn when you call it good,
Like that's what should have happened.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
Sure, we lo, let's litigate calls from a month and
a half ago. Let's absolutely do it. You brought it up.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
But no, but the reason, the reason, and I and
this is this is what's great. Is the reason I
brought it up is because whatever you paid for, you
will always have that story.

Speaker 6 (09:33):
Absolutely so.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
And Ryan, I don't know if you have this experience
because you're a player, and maybe it is in a
different way, but there is something about having that story
good or bad. Now you could be a Clippers fan,
and obviously Moncey wanted the Clippers to win Game four,
but for whatever price that she paid for.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
The ticket, And you don't have to I don't. You
don't have to say it.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
It's not a important But the Clippers won in a
blowout in Game three. Who's got the better story for
the rest of their lives for what they paid for?
Would you have loved to blowout win for the price
that you paid for the ticket, granted your team didn't
win Game four?

Speaker 8 (10:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (10:18):
Dan, you know the answer to that. I'm just saying
I see a loss.

Speaker 6 (10:22):
Yeah, I know what Dan is saying.

Speaker 8 (10:24):
In fact, Ryan Berschinger and I just talked about this
with the Dodgers and the Diamondbacks, where the show.

Speaker 6 (10:31):
Heo Tawny won them the game in Arizona, and.

Speaker 8 (10:35):
It's like, at least they get to say show heyo
Tawny beat us, not like James Autman. You know, like
I get what you're saying, Like there's moments you're gonna
remember a blowout. I'll be like, oh, yeah, they won, yay,
but I may not remember details. I will never forget
Aaron Gordon's dunk.

Speaker 9 (10:49):
Yeah, I realver.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
I know the Bucks won Game one twenty four years ago.
I've forgotten everything that happened in the game, but I
know with my towel that I was telling you about
in the pregame as everybody in the starting lineups are,
Me and my buddy are going nuts. You know, we're
waving our towel, We're doing we're doing everything. You know

(11:11):
that just losing our minds because it's it's Game one
of a playoff series. But that's the stuff that sticks
with you if you were a Dodger fan. We were
just in for Doug Gottlieb show. I brought up the
World Series looking back on that, if you were a
Dodger fan, would you want to go to the Game
five clincher or would you rather have been there Game

(11:32):
one when Freddy Freeman hit his Grand Slam.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
And the reason I.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Say this is because I think everybody would choose the
Grand Slam, just like they would choose Kirk Gibson's home
run against the A's in eighty eight. Is you never
know what you're going to get. And so there's this
when you're talking about like four hundred dollars, if it
fits in your schedule and you can afford the money.
You got to do it because every person is not

(11:56):
going to be able to go. The same people that
were in Game one of Pacers Nicks, Yeah, Ben Stiller
and Tracy Morgan are gonna be there again for sure.
Put the upper deck. I don't know, maybe changes over
fifty percent, seventy five eighty percent people are going to
one game and and that's what I think is just
it's so interesting about these playoffs. If you're in Manzi situation,

(12:16):
you get a classic game that you had no idea,
just ended up fitting into your schedule. But she was like,
I have to go, and so ultimately to your point,
Ryan Hollins, is you gotta go. But it's just not
realistic for everybody to go to every single game. Some
people can, most people can't.

Speaker 7 (12:32):
If you choose, I never want to see a loss
a team that I'm emotionally invested into, a team that
you have history with, that you cheer for, you know
how long it's I don't care if it's a blowout
in the first quarter. I don't care if half the
other team is injured. I want to see a win.
I do not want to see a close loss. Nothing
sits well if you are truly invested in your team,

(12:57):
and I stand by that, there's no excitement like, oh,
get him next time, Like I'm frustrated, Like we ain't happy,
we ain't good, we ain't nothing. It's there is is.
It's incredibly unsettling. So I hear you, like, wow, it was.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
I mean, in due time in twenty years, Monce's story
is better because she was at that game. And that's
the point of the segment. I'm just saying, I agree
with you. You want your team to win. I felt awful.
I'm a Seahawks fan. I've been a Seahawks fan since
I was seven years old.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
Oh, Milwaukee Seahawks, what's going on, dude.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
Dave Craig, the former quarterback, was up from near my
hometown where I grew up in north central Wisconsin, and
I got to meet the Seahawks when they played a
game in Milwaukee when I was seven years old. So
I've been a Seahawks fan ever since. I was fortunate
enough to be at MetLife Stadium when they beat the
Broncos in Super Bowl forty eight.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
Was there on a media pass.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
I didn't pay a dime for it, but an amazing,
amazing experience. I felt awful for the Broncos fans that
I saw there that ponied up the thousands of dollars
that it took to go and watch their team in
the Super Bowl, and to do so in a city
like New York where it's expensive more than others. It's
a Super Bowl week, so you know, prices are gonna

(14:18):
be up, like there's a lot of cost. And they
end up losing forty three to eight, you know, And
I mean it's just a complete domination by the Seahawks
in winning that game. And I felt bad for the
Broncos fans in like paying up for that money.

Speaker 4 (14:33):
But beforehand, you know what they're saying.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
Oh, I gotta go, gotta go to the super Bowl,
Gotta be there, Gotta be there then in hindsight, so
there's a lot of different sides to this. Ryan Berschinger
is our executive producer.

Speaker 10 (14:48):
So in twenty seventeen, I went to Game six of
the World Series. The Dodgers were down three to two
going into too Game six. I did not have tickets
for that game until that morning. In fact, when my
ticket was purchased, I was asleep. I didn't know that
it happened because a couple of my friends were texting

(15:09):
me that morning being like, hey, there's tickets. They're like
half the price because the Dodgers might lose the World
Series and people don't want these tickets. They were super
high up, but it was not too bad. And then
I'm looking at these texts as after I wake up,
and of course the last one is like, we bought them.
We figured you'd want to do it anyway, So and
I did, and I went and it was incredible. It's

(15:30):
the coolest experience I've ever had at a sporting event.
That Dodgers did win that game, But to Manzie's point,
I did have the perspective going into it of thinking,
you know what, worst case scenario, I'm going to witness
a team win a World Series and that is history
that you're going to witness in person, as much as
it would hurt to witness, and eventually I ended up

(15:52):
being even more painful than I thought it would be.
But as much as it would hurt to watch the
Dodgers lose that game in person, there is still the
perspective of knowing that for the rest of my life
I would have saw a team win a World Series
in person. But of course they ended up winning that
game and it was an absolute blast night. And I'm
so happy that we did drop the money, and I'm

(16:14):
so happy that my friends just bought me that ticket
knowing I'd be super down for it.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
Great perspective, and I think that's the point of the
whole thing is. And to Ryan, we actually are agreeing,
like the outcome is almost by chance, whatever it is.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
It is.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
But if you can go, go, and I just don't
think that everybody has the same opportunity. Manzi just says
she's going to a playoff game, there's no doubt about it.
She's gonna be at into it, dome what fits best
for her schedule. Like that's because yeah, if the games
are on weeknights and she's working, and there's that.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
It's the same thing with me. I had to drive
two and a half hours.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
I couldn't have gone to any of the Bucks game
at that point if it was a weeknight because I
had to work the next morning. I think people are
in that in that spot, And in Bursch's scenario, what
I guess probably happened and run you could back me
up on this is you had the perspective to say, well,
I'm a baseball fan. I want to see history where
Dodger fans are saying, you know what, I'm not gonna
spend the money in game six, but if there is

(17:16):
Game seven, I'm going to go, which probably affected the
prices in game six, which allowed you to get those tickets.
So there's there's a lot to it. It's it's a
it's a juggling game. So I guess what I'm saying is,
Twin Cities, go to the Timberwolves game tomorrow if you can.

Speaker 4 (17:32):
Like, that's where it is, because if you don't go tomorrow,
if they lose.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
Then it's three to oho and you're not gonna want
to go to game four. Game four is when your
team is down three to zero. You models to go
to a funeral like that. That's all that it is, like,
there's there is there is no there is no excitement.
You know your team is back against the wall and
it's probably not going to happen even if they win.
You know, it's okay, well we're still down three to one.

(17:55):
They have to win Game five and then come back
here for Game six. So I guess the point is
is go you can.

Speaker 4 (18:02):
Is that bar if you hadn't seen it before.

Speaker 7 (18:06):
I agree, I get it, But I would just say,
if you have seen it before, nobody wants to see
your team lose. But it's like, hey, I've never seen it,
I've never been a part of it. There's you know,
a lot of festivities, a lot of stuff going on.

Speaker 4 (18:19):
I get it, I understand it.

Speaker 7 (18:21):
I'm not arguing that I'm not a Debbie Downer, okay.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
And I'm not saying that Manzi should be happy her
team lost on a lot of buzzer beat or dunk.

Speaker 4 (18:29):
You mean her sounds sound pretty excited about it. I
mean no.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
What I'm saying is, twenty years from now, when you're
looking back at that play and you're talking about history,
that's the one that comes up at parties. So that's
the one that you're talking about twenty years later, and
you're giving the first hand experience of what happened in
the situate.

Speaker 7 (18:50):
Let me let me say this, Manzi, did you feel
there was still optimistic hope for this.

Speaker 6 (18:55):
Series in that moment?

Speaker 4 (18:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (18:59):
Well, after the game, after the game, you're walking out,
you're talking with your Yeah, you're with I.

Speaker 11 (19:03):
Did I mean I thought they were winning the series
up until you know, Game seven, really, so I did
have hope, but I felt I felt really gross from
that game.

Speaker 6 (19:14):
But I was like, all right, we gotta we got it,
all right, it's not over. It's not over.

Speaker 8 (19:17):
It was also just how in game one they were up,
like what fifteen also lost it, So it was just
like frustrating.

Speaker 6 (19:24):
But yeah, like I that is.

Speaker 8 (19:26):
A moment I will I will never forget, like the
air was sucked out of into a dome, you know,
And even though.

Speaker 6 (19:33):
It's not great, it's not great.

Speaker 8 (19:37):
I think from just being a basketball fan, it's a
pretty cool game to have been witnessing person.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
I think it's I think it's awesome. I'm sorry that
the Clippers lost. Yeah no, I mean just to that point.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
And I think like with the Dodgers, and I think
that Burschinger's example.

Speaker 4 (19:53):
Was was great.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
There are people who are like, oh, I want to
save up for Game seven, and they they maybe they did,
and then they just had their team lose. And I
don't think that in game seven, you're like, well, at
least I get to see a World Series win, Like
you're going to that game with your team tied burst
at least had the perspective knowing that the odds weren't
in a favor, so let's make something good out of this.
And then he ends up seeing a win and seeing
a World Series win in a game six, which forces

(20:16):
a Game seven, which gives everybody hope. The point being is,
I think four hundred dollars is cheap for tonight. So
go if you can, if if you had the opportunity,
And I don't know times ticking tip off is in
two and a half hours, but it's just the point
of get that opportunity, Minneapolis, go in game three if there.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
Is a comeback series.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
That's the other great thing when I talk about the series,
at least with the Hornets, the Bucks one and in seven,
so game one was the furthest one away, but it
still was like, hey, we saw a game in a
series that they won. And that's to Hollin's point is
you want your team, you want your team to win,
so if you have the opportunity, go do so. And
not everybody has that opportunity because there are people who

(20:57):
are driving for hours and have other plans and it's
us what graduation season, so graduations are going on and
other things are happening, and it's a Memorial Day weekend
and people are traveling, so a lot happening. But if
you can go to the game, I think that's our
motto of Covino and Rich today on this Friday, hit
him up at the Ryan Hollins, you can find me

(21:17):
at Dan Byer on Fox, find Manzi at Monzy Belanos.
You can find Ryan Berschinger at Ryan Berschinger. Chris Purfet
is here with us as well. You can find Chris
on X at Chris Perfets in your Blue Sky account. Chris,
where can they find you?

Speaker 12 (21:32):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (21:33):
You're at Perfet and I am at Dan Bayer and
Ryan Berschinger's at Ryan Berschinger. Thank you very much in Moncy.
I've gotten three new followers since I've announced the Blue
Sky account.

Speaker 6 (21:47):
Yes, it's almost as good as Raphael Dever's day.

Speaker 4 (21:51):
Almost.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
We'll get to him in a little bit, but coming
up next it's an end of an era, and I say,
thank goodness, Ryan Hollins, I'm Dan Byer, Manzi, Ryan and
Chrissy here as well, hanging out for Cavino and Rich
on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 9 (22:59):
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Speaker 2 (23:00):
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Speaker 1 (23:09):
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Speaker 4 (23:20):
Manzi, stick with us for a sec. Ryan.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
On the other side of the glass is Chris Purfett.
His eyes watering, they're glassy eyes. There are any tears
coming down Chris Prefett's face at this point, A few,
just and the and the and the reason why and
Ryan Hollins. If you were on Blue Sky you would
know this. Chris Prefett is apparently a huge Around the
Horn fan and has been posting on Blue Sky. The

(23:45):
final episode of Around the Horn on ESPN has just aired.
It is it is now over with. It is now done.
And I know you did some stuff with ESPN for
a while, but you wouldn't have been on Around the Horn.
You would have been you were on first take of
the other shows, right.

Speaker 4 (24:02):
Yeah, No, I never fieled in.

Speaker 7 (24:05):
Just saw Win lilbon in passing and sure at games
and whatnot, and and.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
Here's here's the deal. Chris profet. I do not want
to rain on your tears parade. I don't know if
there are tears of sadness or tears of joy. I've
hated that show for twenty three years. Yeah, I'm so sorry.
The day it arrived, I couldn't stand it, and I

(24:33):
have an appreciation for what Tony Reality has done. I
just I twenty three years later, I still don't understand
the concept, and I don't know.

Speaker 4 (24:44):
I may be missing something and maybe it's just me being.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
Cold hearted, but yeah, good riddance, see you later, bye bye, see.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
You later down the road or on the horn has
come to an end.

Speaker 13 (24:56):
It's it's it was. It was a show that allowed
for a lot of different viewpoints to come to the
table and more. It's just about the personality to Tony Rally.
First off, you're not you're not Italian, so you don't
get my connection with him.

Speaker 10 (25:07):
So that's that's.

Speaker 9 (25:08):
Completely fair, completely completely understanding.

Speaker 4 (25:10):
There nothing personal to Tony Reality at all. I know.
But the best part of the.

Speaker 9 (25:14):
Show, it's family. It's family, you know what it is.

Speaker 13 (25:17):
But no, Reality is an incredibly positive person and he's
always been able to make me smile through a lot
of Around the Horn. It look, there was definitely parts
of my life where I'm like, you know what, I'm
this is kind of the lead into part of the
interruption because I like when those guys yell. But a
lot of my friends have been pointing out and like
I've I've kind of taken this viewpoint too. It's like
there's very there's very few shows in sports that is

(25:41):
just as positive as that, not positive in some kind
of like lapping up state media kind of sense. But
like I think sometime, especially in what we do on radio,
it gets so cynical, it can get very negative in
ways that just it'll drag you down. And I never
had that problem with Around the Horn. There was never

(26:02):
someone on the Round the Horn where I'm like, Okay,
I'm tired of this. I'm I'm you know, this is
making me feel miserable about this story. There was always
something very different about everything that was brought to the table.
There's a lot of different voices through the ages that
like they started with Bob Ryan up there and then
they're just ending with you know, well way faces.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
I mean, but that's like it started out to get
like different viewpoints from across the country, right so you
have a writer from Boston, you have one from Dallas,
you have one from the La Times, one from Denver
to oh yeah, den very different. So that's kind of
the thought process about it. But then it didn't that
that didn't it didn't continue like that. Then it just
came it turned into talking heads and then you're talking

(26:42):
about topics that that honestly, like Ryan and I have
said here for two and a half hours and we've
talked about three things. It's Eastern Conference finals, Western Conference
finals and what ticket are you going to buy for
the Eastern or Western Conference finals? You know, and so
like there's I guess there's a point too, you know,
spending time talking about a variety of different things. But

(27:04):
I just I don't think people have opinions on twenty
seven different topics. If we're talking about the twenty seventh
most important topic of the day, you're probably not serving
your audience. And that was always my thing about it,
of why are you wasting two minutes on it? I
just thought the whole concept was weird. But I understand
the personality of Tony Reality. It is nothing personal with
anybody there. I know people who have appeared on around
the Horn. I know them personally, it just never was

(27:26):
my bag of tea. From day one, I'm like, you're
giving points for sports takes, and twenty three years later.

Speaker 13 (27:32):
It's the it's the points don't matter and they're all
made up.

Speaker 9 (27:36):
What was that? Whose line is it? Anyway?

Speaker 4 (27:39):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (27:39):
Yes, that is from that.

Speaker 4 (27:40):
Yeah. Yeah you a fan Manci of the show.

Speaker 6 (27:42):
Never seen it once in my life.

Speaker 4 (27:44):
Wow, Like, I know it's hard to do.

Speaker 6 (27:47):
By the way, it is hard to do, right, Like,
I haven't just left. I know what it is. You
know what I'm saying, but not in here. I'll change
it right away.

Speaker 8 (27:55):
It might be on a TV down the hall. It's
not going to be in here. I've never I've never sat.

Speaker 6 (28:00):
I remember. I know what it is, but I didn't
even know you got points? Who gets the point? Who
decides that?

Speaker 9 (28:07):
Reality?

Speaker 6 (28:08):
Who?

Speaker 9 (28:09):
Tony reality? The host?

Speaker 4 (28:10):
You don't have to explain the show.

Speaker 13 (28:14):
I'm gonna push back on one thing is like, yeah,
we again. But this is why I liked Around the
Horn is because as someone who like again, I blog
about the Detroit Lions, I podcast about it, and for
a long time, they weren't a story ever that would
ever make it onto this stuff. So I always had
an appreciation to go beyond the top three topics just
because we think this is what's going to appeal to

(28:34):
the most people. To get to other topics is something
I take a lot of. I am curious. I am curious,
and I want to learn more stuff about it. And
there was always at least that through line with around
the Horn that it was positive, it was open minded
about a lot of different sports topics. In essence, it
wasn't what we do. It wasn't what we do, and
I appreciate it for that.

Speaker 4 (28:54):
It's different.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
But I would also say I don't want someone's opinion
on the Lions. If I don't think that they follow
the Lions. Why would I Why would I care about
the Dallas You know sports writer who's never seen a
Lions game all year, and now he was going to
tell me thirty seconds on on on why John Kittna
throw a bad interception and I'm trying to go back
in the Lions lower.

Speaker 13 (29:13):
I think that's why you try to win it. Yeah,
So you don't take that and just run with something
you like.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
Yeah, but they like I just I would feel insulted
for people just making a comment I had a buddy
once tell me this and it was so good. He said,
you know, his favorite team was, uh, the favorite team
was the Dodgers, and a baseball insider said something about
the Dodgers player that was so off, like it was
not even true. He goes, I can never trust what

(29:38):
that person has to say because he the person was
blatantly wrong about what he was saying. And I feel
that that that is part of that as well. I
don't know Ryan as an.

Speaker 4 (29:47):
Athlete, if you're like, okay, we take more credence in
the PTI for.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
What Corneiser and Wilbon would say as opposed to something
like around the Horn. I don't know what that perspective is,
but it is unique, and I just think sometimes there's
just I don't know, it just wasn't for me.

Speaker 4 (30:02):
I'll just put it that way, wasn't.

Speaker 7 (30:03):
I mean, it's it's it's fun, though, right, you shouldn't
enjoy it.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
I mean it's lively, it's it's different.

Speaker 7 (30:10):
And you know what, maybe it doesn't have the big
names on that show, but it was, you know, it's
it's been a part of ESPN and part of sports culture.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
It made celebrities out of people for sure, like it
did like Woody Page, I mean, you know absolutely, I
mean there were you know, everybody knows.

Speaker 4 (30:27):
Woody Page gave Bob Ryan a much bigger you.

Speaker 13 (30:30):
Know, didn't Bill start on that show and then launched
into his own show off of that.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
The Levttard have been doing stuff previously, and he was, yeah,
I mean he was. He was on ESPN Radio before
you know that started.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
But I mean there were.

Speaker 9 (30:47):
Games. I think hadded through with that that show as.

Speaker 4 (30:49):
Well a lot of people, Yeah, a lot of people
got their launch.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
I think it was a place to do it because
you couldn't necessarily do it on PTI because he had.

Speaker 4 (30:56):
I'm sure Cornheiser and wilbamb But it was just interesting interesting.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
But I'm glad that Chris Purfett loved it so much
because I didn't want to.

Speaker 4 (31:04):
I wanted my harsh.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
Feelings towards it to at least be softened by someone
who did appreciate it, and Mancy, I wouldn't have known
that if I wasn't on Blue Sky, where you can
find me.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
At dan Byer. You can find Chris Burfett there at
Perfets and find Chris's love for it.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
He is Ryan Hollins, Monty Belanios, Ryan Berschinger, and Chris
Purfett hanging out today as we are in for Cavino
and Rich coming up next. It's a show that you've
heard on the weekends. A segment you've heard on the
weekends that can only be done by one person. It's
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Speaker 3 (31:50):
Live Covina and Rich Here on a Friday at Fox
Sports Radio, guys run for Dan Patrick. So you got me,
Dan Byer and Ryan Hollins, the NBA vet sitting in.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
Let's waste no time. Monty Bolaos is at the news desk.
You can hear her.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
Sundays five o'clock Houston to Pacific with Carrie Rhodes.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
And years back, we developed.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
A segment fit for the one and only Mancy Blos
and it's called.

Speaker 6 (32:16):
And now it's time for Absolutely It's going to be.

Speaker 12 (32:20):
Pretty according to MONSI, I love.

Speaker 4 (32:22):
It, Manzi.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
I have to ask now that it's kind of you know, yeah,
you're carry's show on Sundays. Yeah, do you even do
according to Manzi, because the whole show's got to be
according exactly.

Speaker 6 (32:31):
I don't do it on Sundays anymore.

Speaker 8 (32:34):
But I did just do a segment of this with
Aaron Torres and uh and j Mart so they I
filled in for Steve Disager while he was on vacation,
and then I did a little according to Wazi, so
it makes an appearance every now and then.

Speaker 12 (32:49):
You know, I love it, according to Monsei.

Speaker 4 (32:52):
Okay, let's get to it.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
Ryan Hollins, Uh, you can't just keep stinking with no consequences.

Speaker 6 (32:58):
Well that's not the word I said, but five you Okay,
you guys.

Speaker 8 (33:02):
The Colorado Rockies, I get that, like teams go through slumps, right,
but they are on pace to be worse than the
White Sox were last year, which was the worst in
the modern era. They're also gonna be just the worst
ever in baseball, like in all the years of baseball.
They're on pace to have the worst record.

Speaker 6 (33:22):
Here is my problem.

Speaker 8 (33:23):
This will be the fourth season in a row that
they will be in last place in the division. I
went back and looked at every division the last four
years there has not been the same team that has
been in last place. There's gotta be consequences. This will
be the fourth year in a row. I feel like
after three years, if your team is in last place
in the division again, you gotta be fine. The owner

(33:45):
has to be fine. You get to year four, maybe
you lose a chunk of home games. You get to
year five of being in last place in your division again,
you have to sell the team. The Rockies aren't even trying, Like,
if you looked at their lineup, they are not even trying.

Speaker 6 (34:00):
I think I may be able to play right field.

Speaker 8 (34:03):
Like I'm seriously like, I'm so over it because it
sucks for the fans. And if you look at Rockies games,
there's actual.

Speaker 6 (34:10):
Fans in the stands.

Speaker 8 (34:11):
They they are there to support their team, and the
owners don't.

Speaker 6 (34:15):
The owner whoever it is, doesn't care. And I feel
like there's gotta.

Speaker 8 (34:18):
Be consequences when you keep being the worst team in
your division year after year, when no other division has that.

Speaker 6 (34:25):
Guys, I looked, yes, not.

Speaker 4 (34:28):
Cool, relegate, yes something.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
But call up Oklahoma City, callow Iowa cuffs.

Speaker 6 (34:34):
I love that.

Speaker 8 (34:35):
I love that idea as well. I just feel like
money is what hurts owners. So it's like you gotta
give them a big fine and like, yeah the first
three years, then something the fourth year, and then the
fifth year you're out, Like I'm over it.

Speaker 6 (34:45):
This sucks.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
Uh. They they also suck, they do. I couldn't.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
I couldn't say that. I needed some context to what
I was saying. But it is awful. But Black's on
the contract at the end of the year, an extension,
like a one year extent.

Speaker 4 (35:00):
But they're like, all right, this is so awful, You're gone. Yeah.
I guess Bud Black is the only one feeling the consequences.

Speaker 6 (35:05):
Of an awful team, and he probably has to be fired.

Speaker 8 (35:08):
Yes, as a summer tell you don't want to be there.

Speaker 12 (35:12):
According to Monsey, right, Hollands, you're up according to months.

Speaker 7 (35:21):
I mean, no, I get it. I understand the frustration.
I don't think it's as easy as sending a team down.

Speaker 4 (35:27):
To double A. But that's not realistic. Yeah I was
playing that up, but no, I like it.

Speaker 7 (35:32):
You can get draft prospects you are supposed to. You know,
they're they're farming players. I assume develop it's called development.

Speaker 12 (35:41):
The according to Monsey, developing MASI more money, more problems.

Speaker 6 (35:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, guys, more money, more problems. We've all
heard that. But you know who I think is just
starting to realize what that means. It's Wan Soto.

Speaker 8 (35:54):
Soto left the Yankees' largest contract in professional sports.

Speaker 6 (35:57):
We all know that, you guys.

Speaker 8 (35:58):
I really don't think he need what was gonna come
with that contract, the responsibility of like you are now
the guy. You're still in New York, a tough market,
and I don't think he was ready to be the guy.
I'm not even talking about the slump, y'all.

Speaker 6 (36:11):
He legit. I think he's sad. I think he regrets
his decision.

Speaker 8 (36:15):
Last Sunday, he did not hustle out of the box
on a ground.

Speaker 6 (36:18):
Ball up the middle.

Speaker 8 (36:19):
He just casually trotted to first base. Could have been
an enfield hit in an eighth inning game of a
tide game against two the Yankees against the Red Sox, guys,
he didn't even swing Garrett Crochet through six strikes.

Speaker 6 (36:32):
One was a ball.

Speaker 8 (36:33):
He just struck out looking just stood there, Juan Soto,
how much money are you making to stand there?

Speaker 6 (36:38):
How do you not swing at all? Y'all?

Speaker 8 (36:40):
I really do think he regrets his decision, and I
think he's sad.

Speaker 6 (36:44):
It has nothing to do with the slump. It is
just everything else going around the slump.

Speaker 8 (36:50):
Watching him not swing at Garrett Crochet's strikes was ridiculous.

Speaker 13 (36:55):
He's according to Monsey, there's a politician in the NBA.

Speaker 8 (37:00):
H y'all, we all believe Draymond Green should have been
a finalist for Defensive Player of the Year.

Speaker 6 (37:03):
Since when?

Speaker 8 (37:04):
Since why when Jimmy When Jimmy Butler got some of
the Warriors was a junior, was a Draymond.

Speaker 6 (37:09):
He just kept talking on tn T on his podcast.
He's like, I'm good, put me, you can go to
Monty should have been He does.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
As in form and Rich he's Ryan, I'm dead. Monty's
here too,
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