October 15, 2025 • 39 mins
Dan Beyer and Kerry Rhodes, in for Covino & Rich, explain how Brian Daboll has saved his job with the New York Giants. The guys react to Tua Tagovailoa apologizing for calling out Dolphins' leaders. Plus, who is the best player in the NFL?!
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Speaker 1 (00:19):
You made it to the middle of the week. Congratulations,
that's not a great thing for the Milwaukee Brewers. There's
a better chance of the Brewers getting a hit than
us starting with the NLCS today, I'm telling you it's
been a rough two days for Brewer fans Dodger fans
here in southern California where we are based, already making
World Series plans. This thing is over. We'll talk some
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NLCS coming up a little bit later. There is no
Coveno in Rich today because the guys were in for
Dan Patrick earlier today up around the time Carry always
gets up bright and early. Actually it's not even bright
when you get up, is it. It is not bright
at all. It's very dim. It's very damn. He is
an early riser. Me not so much welcome in We
are in for CNR today. There's no dam but there
(01:01):
is a Ryan b Ryan Berschinger is our executive producer today. Hye,
Ryan Smith, our technical producer. What's going on, Ryan di'angelo
rest in power? Yes, yeah, all right, absolutely absolutely, And
Isaac Low and cron Is at the news desk is
gonna be with us giving us all the great updates
of the day.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Hello, Isaac, salutation, Sorry about your Brewers Dad.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
It's not over yet yet. Well, we'll see, I'll tell you,
I'll just I'll say one thing about there is there's
when you're trying to enjoy a baseball game and you
only can enjoy about eight minutes of it because it's
just like, go, the first pitch of the game, gone right,
everything great, Here we go turning it around, taking that
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momentum carry from the end of Game one when you
almost made the comeback first batter of the game. Brewers
are often running this is a new Brewers team, and
yeah that that's it basically for the rest of the game.
It was a tough one last night. Last night was
tougher to watch actually than Game one because you still
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actually thought that you had a chance in Game one
because the Dodgers weren't doing anything. And then last night
at the Dodgers adding on Paz with the double, ta
Oscar Hernandez the home run, and then it was just
downhill from there. It was a rough night if you're
a Brewers fan. Dodgers fans absolutely loving up. But they're
up to Oh, we got a bigger question when it
comes to the Dodgers and Brewers, and just a little bit,
(02:32):
how are you doing without your Yankees playing right now?
Why did you have to bring that up?
Speaker 5 (02:36):
That's I mean, you could have wallowed in your own
self there for a bit. Misery loves companies. I see
that you just kind of cazively tossed that to the side.
But the Yankees will be back, you know, they're they're
never gone too far from the from the radar. And
you know, a couple of key signings here and there,
I mean one or two, and get Garrett Cole back
next year, we'll be back in the mix.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
But we gotta worry about the Brewers right now. You
guys are having to.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Deal with obviously the most well constructed baseball team on
the planet, and we'll get into that later.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
But they're does really good when they're on. And yeah,
the Dodgers are inevitable, is what I've heard for the
last week, and I kind of just tossed to the side,
and now you're starting to wonder, Okay, maybe that's the case.
Brewers haven't hit. It's it's it's their own fault. But
a credit to Blake Snell and Yoshinobu Yamamoto, who've had
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a great performances. Yamamoto with the complete game last night.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
I mean, sho Hey hasn't hit either, So I mean
they're just so deep and doesn't you know what I mean,
like it doesn't matter for them.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Firstly, your team won, I mean the Dodgers won last night,
but I mean it was was was Game two a
more enjoyable watch for you? Or Game one is a
Dodgers fan? Game two was? I was Game one?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I felt like I needed a cigarette, yeah, to the
end of Game one, so but not in a good way,
in a in a like my heart was pounding and
I actually needed to sit down and relax for ten minutes.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
And they're a healthy your ways instead of having the cigarettes,
that's right, dip your faces and mice so something called
that's yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
I don't know what you guys. I thought it was
kind of bs. The birds didn't pull any eight six
two double plays last night, Like you're like, what a joke?
You know, like, what are you doing? What are you doing?
But uh, we'll get to more baseball later on and
really a bigger, bigger outlook for what could be the
outlook of the NLCS and the possible World Series. The
reason I bring up your Yankees, Oh here we go again. No, No,
I'm not. I'm transitioning, okay, because there's a team in
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New York that you're starting to fall in love with. Yes,
and you've already fell in love with the Yankees and
they've broken your heart. But this is this is so
the NFL as we enter Week seven right now, Carrier Oats,
the team you're starting to fall in love with is.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
The New York Giants. I'm starting to fall in love with.
You know what they can be now? We know they're
still a little bit away, it seems. But when you
bring in a pl like Jackson Dart and you're bringing
a player like Cam Scattaboo, and these guys aren't afraid
of anything, doesn't even matter if they win right now,
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Like for me, it's they're building something special and they
have a core group of guys now and then you
think about bringing Malik Neighbors back if he gets back healthy,
and then you have weapons, you have something to hang
your hat on moving forward. And then you talk about
We've talked about day Ball before, right, and so we
pretty much had him out the door this year, and
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there really wasn't any saving grace with anything that was happening.
They were starting Russell Wilson. I'm like, that doesn't make
any sense, So like, what are you doing? Then you
bring in the guy that has all the confidence in
the world but also has the game to back it up,
and it lights a fire underneath this teammates. You can
see his teammates fighting with them, He's conversing with them
and having these raw, raw moments as teammates. And so
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when you see that energy come into the building, it
might just save Brian dave Ball's job. And also when
you look at the NF and you look at their schedule,
because I just looked at it because I was like, Okay,
I am high on them, But then I looked at
the schedule and the schedule looks tough on paper. But
then the Eagles are struggling, so like the Denver Broncos
are Okay, like you know, it's not like it's yeah,
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crazy to see them kind of win some games here.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
The Broncos are their opponent in Week seven, and I
think just as a whole, when you look at the
NFC East, the NFC East isn't what it was when
we were starting. Yes, a little more than a month
ago in Week one, so a month and a half ago,
we're looking at at how the NFL is shaping out
and or saying, man, you're the if you're the Cowboys,
who again, we're gonna be without Micah Parsons. We knew
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they were going to be going to be holes there.
But the Giants we also did not think a lot
of and you thought Commanders and Eagles. I wasn't as
high on the Commanders, but I would say generally most
people are, well, that's four losses right away, Like the
Eagles are going to beat the Giants both times, and
the Commanders is going to beat the Giants both times
right right for what they had and and well that
can't happen anymore because the Giants already beaten the Eagles
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did so last week. But now you even look at
the standings and all the Giants are in last place.
Right now, you still have Philadelphia sitting there at four
and two. You've got Washington middle of the pack at
three and three, and you have the Cowboys with their
tie with the Packers, but they're still a two win team.
So I don't know if it's and I know you're
not saying it's this year, no, but it's more of
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a competitive division. Even with the Giants team that lost
on the road to New Orleans, I mean New Orleans
gave the Patriots and Fits this this past weekend. There
is more there and more of a possibility for the
Giants to make headway in the NFC East even this season.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
And you always high on the Giants D line and
their pass to us Lawrence Brian burns something, right, and
so now like they have something to play a little
bit harder for. Right, When you have a guy that
you believe in, it really elevates the room.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Right.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
And so now defensively, we're not just out there playing
to make sacks and make our money. Now it's like
I believe even the product that we put on the field.
And that's a different story. You can feel that interview.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
You said something earlier and our executive producer Ryan Berschinger
has printed out these great numbers that we were talking
about pre show. Are you ready for this? What's on
July eighth? Odds to have Brian Dabole be fired the
first head coach fired in the National Football League were
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four to one. Yeah, shortest odds of anyone. Mike McDaniel
was second. This is July eighth, five to one. Shane
Steiken of the Colts was third, six to one. This
is July eighth, right. The guy who got fired this
week Brian Callahan ten to one. In fact, there were
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seven coaches that were ahead of Brian Callahan on July
eighth of most likely to lose their job first in
the NFL. Moving along to September twenty fifth, all right,
let me say the first one. Dan, Okay, let's say it.
Mike McDaniel's got to be number one. He was. In fact,
he was minus one fifty. That's how bad it was
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the Dolphins. He was minus one fifty. Brian Callahan was
plus one fifty. Brian Dable third, so he had dropped
the third at plus three hundred. September twenty fifth was
between weeks three and four of the season, So you
end up making the change to Jackson Dart at that point,
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and the odds the odds now as of October eighth,
This was a week ago today. Brian Callahan was then
minus money one thirty, Mike McDaniels plus one fifteen, Brian
Dables plus three hundred. I don't have the updated odds
for today, but Brian Dable was Numero uno first coach
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to be out the door. Brian Callahan was eighth on
that list. We are six weeks into the season and
now Allahan is out of a job and day Ball
by attaching himself to Jackson Dart yep and attaching himself
to Cam Skataboo, which is a trend that I think
coaches in the NFL, if they haven't caught on to,
need to catch on to, may have saved his job
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in New York, which, by the way, when Sakwon Barkley
was running all over the NFL last season, it seemed
like a far fetched idea. Now to have day Ball
and even Joe Shane their gms stick around. Yeah, I
think it may have saved their jobs in New York,
and I don't.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
And there were reports that a lot of people in
the organization wanted Jackson Dart to start day one, and
I think that's the other part of it, right, So
you there's there's this you know, as a head coach,
you want to have stability at that quarterback position, and
you want to have somebody that can at least execute
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what you want to get done. And I'm sure that
may have been some of the thinking with Russell Wilson
having history right and having played a lot of games
in the NFL. So that's fine. But when you got
Zackson Dart and a lot of us talked about it,
like the energy surrounding him going in a lot of
people didn't know what he was going to be, but
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I was very huge on him, seeing him at old
miss being able to make all the throws. But also
just the energy I was talking about. In the NFL,
it gets mundane. Those guys are professionals, they've done it
a long time, right, So when you get new energy
in there that can actually get the job done, it's
such a different It's such a difference makerp Do you want.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
To know the real reason why I think this story
is relevant today? Why is that it's not because the
Giants are coming off of a week's Week six win
against the Philadelphia Eagles. It is because Brian Callahan got
fired this week and James Franklin got fired on Sunday,
and so you look at college football and it's the
what have you done for me lately? And listen, James
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Franklin's situation in Penn State is one that we've always
talked about. I just don't think you fire the guy
mid season in when two and a half weeks ago
you were on a quest to win a national championship
and maybe run the table and go undefeated with everybody
coming back. I understand Drew Aller's injury makes things different.
The three straight losses, how poorly they looked against UCLA,
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I get all of that stuff. I don't think he
should have been fired. But Mike McDaniel, according to these odds,
should have been fired in week three. He has not
been as if yet, for whatever reason, the Dolphins are
sitting there at one and five. The Titans got to
the point, and I said this yesterday on the network
that I think that they fired Brian Callahan because they
didn't want Mike Rabel and the Patriots to come in
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and run all over them. And if Brian Callahan be
the guy that replaced Mike rabel Oh would make him
look even worse. There are a lot of reasons on
why these moves are made, and in fact, the Giants
move to Jackson Dark didn't even make sense at the time.
And the reason I say that is because if you're
starting Russell Wilson at the beginning of the season, you're saying,
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we want to go with the veteran, Well, you're ready
to move off the veteran three games in. Apparently they were,
and it has worked for them to this point. However, Carrie,
they signed another veteran that we know, Jameis Winston is
on that team, and so if Russell Wilson wasn't working,
I thought they were gonna go to Jameis Winston. I
thought he was gonna be because Jackson Dart was the
late first round pick that they wanted to maybe wait
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some more time and when the season was lost or
was really getting out of hand, then they could put
Dart in. But that's not what happened at all. And
maybe Brian Dabele was playing chess and I'm playing checkers here,
but by starting Russell Wilson, he has one great game
against the Cowboys, but still throws a bad interception and
then is embarrassed on Sunday Night Football in a game
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against the Chiefs where we see the errors of Russell
Wilson that made Brian Dable look like a genius. Because
now Jackson Dart enters the game with a cape and
Cam scattab who has been his own sort of bit
of sensation. But if you don't have Russell Wilson having
poor performances in the first couple of games year for
the Giants, you don't get as big of a boom
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for Jackson Dart if you start the week one.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
I actually agree with that, but I also look at
the the.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Approach of what if as well?
Speaker 5 (14:10):
Right, So even if that's the case, Dan, and that
could be true, and I love to take but what
about the games you left out there? Like this canna
be a different story, right, Like if Jackson Dart is
playing Day one the way he's playing right now, do
they win a one or two of those games and
a different person?
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Yeah? They yeah? Do they know what I mean? Do
they beat the Cowboys in that that shootout game? Do
they fare better against Kansas City again, a Jackson Dart
team did loose to New Orleans or the Saints. But
it was also a game where the Giants were driving
there was a cam scataboo fumble that they pick up
and run all the way back. So we're talking about
you know, we're talking about a play here and a
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play there. And you played eight years in the league,
you were an All Pro. You know how one play
can make the difference in anything. But it's just interesting
on how the tenor the feeling around the New York Giants.
And I'm sitting next to a guy who's half of
his career with the Jets right now, and they're a miserable,
winless team despite the new energy that's going to be
tried to be infused in the in the organization, it's
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just been a tough goal for them. And you hear
the Giants realistically probably haven't done that much better, but
still it seems like it's a world of difference. And
you're right, I actually think that when you look at
their future, if you have this combo with a healthy
Molik neighbors next year, you drafted at Dual Carter out
of Penn State with your first round pick, So if
you have to make moves with other guys, your defensive
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line and your your pressure, and your quarterback is still there.
I never would have thought that I'd be saying this,
but I think Brian Dable and Joe Shane of a
future with the Giants. It's crazy.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
You get a quarterback and you actually you actually cash
in on that, on that number one pick for a quarterback,
and you make it work.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Man. It changes the whole whole thing. It saved John
Harbaugh's job in Baltimore years back with Lamar Jackson. Yes,
when you had to move off of Joe Flacco, and
I think that was even more difficult because of Joe
Flacca and what he meant with the Ravens organization and
winning a Super Bowl. But you had to do what
you had to do. Now, John Harbaugh's coming under fire
now for how the season has started for the Ravens.
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They'll get Lamar back after the bye in Week seven.
But it is a recipe that I do believe in.
If the Chicago Bears would have had success last season, yeah,
obviously Matt eber Flus would still have been the head coach.
They wouldn't have had to fire the offensive coordinator and
then fire the head coach and tear it all down
with Caleb Williams, but it didn't work out maybe for
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their own doings. But if you can get success from
your rookie quarterback and not show dysfunction and show a
new energy again. They're two and four, but it feels
like they're three and three. Like it honestly does, it
can really change things around. He's carry roads. I'm Dan
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Speaker 1 (18:25):
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There's that big swing. What you can find one of
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we gotta go with. Dodgers, get that five to one
win over the Brewers. In the NLCS up two to
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Speaker 5 (18:53):
By the way, you know what's crazy, Dan wellhy couldn't
Glad Junior be hitting away? He's hitting right now in
this series right he's hitting zero percent right now. In
the Yankees series, he's bat in a thousand. That was crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
The Brewers are hitting zero I think in this NLCS truly,
it's been uh, it's been a rough go scene shifts
for the NLCS. Yes to La tomorrow where it's chili here.
It's been rainy, it rained yesterday and now a little
cool day, but starting to warm up over the next
couple of days. I don't know if it's going to
warm up in Miami from the chill of tou a
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tongue of I Looa and his words that he had
on Sunday about his team, attacking the leadership of the
team and players not showing up for player only meetings,
saying some were late, some didn't show up at all.
I thought it was an attack on Mike McDaniel as well,
because anytime you bring in leadership, I think it's to
attacking himself if he's the quarterback. Tua talked about his
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comments that he made on Sunday earlier today.
Speaker 7 (19:53):
As a leader of this team of the Miami Dolphins,
you know the comments that had been said, I would say,
I've made a mistake, and I'm owning up to that
right now, and I've talked to guys on the team
about it, talk to the leaders about it, and they
know my heart. They know that the intent was right.
But you know, the intent can be right, but when
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things get misconstrued or however the media wants to portray it,
you know that leaves a void of silence and a
lot of questions for the guys on our team.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
There's nothing misconstrued. I mean he said what he said,
He meant what he said. Now, this recanting of what
he tried well, trying to recant what he said here
is just coming from the front office, right, that's coming
from the Miami Dolphins and telling them to temper it
down and try to cool that situation down. And you know,
at the end of the day, he's lost his team.
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This team doesn't believe Intua. I mean, you can look
at him when he go out and play like he
doesn't elevate them. There's a disconnect. And like I've told
you before, Dan about too, I really feel like and
this is me like at the player carry like I
really worry about him hit and his and his mental
health and the stuff from the concussion stuff. For me,
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like it's a big thing for me. When I see him.
He doesn't look like he has that spark in his
eye that he had once he first came in. And
there's a lot that goes to playing a quarterback position
outside of playing the game well. And he's just not
managing that well at all.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
There's a different view of to when you watch him
play Now every single time you cringe when he's about
to get hit, or could take a hit. Yes, because
of what we've seen on multiple occasions in the National
Football League. Not to make any joke about of that
stuff or not, but I kind of cringe when I
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hear the apology because guess how many players and my
guess so many players don't guess, because I'm going to
tell you the answer. Guess how many players have more
experience than to a tongue of aiload on the Dolphins roster?
You do. Harry will only text me when his picks
are right. He is radio silence when they're wrong. You
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picked the Lions on Sunday night. I didn't hear a
peep from him, No damn.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
But look they had all six dbs. Myth that didn't happen. Yeah,
they needed.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Two graphics at separate screens for NBC to put that up. Okay,
all right, take a guess that have more experience in
the NFL. How many players on the Dolphins rosters have
more experienced than TUA does, more years in the NFL
than he does.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
I'd say one. Darren Waller, Okay, he's one of them. Yeah,
there's five, okay, but Darren Waller is one. And Darren
Waller's been a Dolphin for two months, right right?
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Yeah? Who are the other leaders he's talking about? Who
are the other leaders that he had to talk with
and clarify If you're not that leader, Yeah, that's like,
this is his team. A quarterback who wears the C
patch on his jersey is a captain, a leader of
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this team. If you believe what you said, if you
believe in the words that you're saying, you don't need
to apologize. And I think that's part of the problem
with the Dolphins is who is calling out the leaders? Dude,
you're one of them. If not, you're one A. The
quarterback of the team. With only five other players with
more years alec Ingolds, I know been in Miami for
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a while. Here's not a lifelong Dolphin. He played for
the Raiders for a little bit. Cedric Wilson has been
in different spots throughout the league. He has more years
than two A. But they're only five players on the
roster that have actually been in the NFL longer. He's
been in Miami longer than pretty much anybody on the team,
and you're the quarterback of the team. That's my problem
with it is, so now you're going back on it.
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You said what you said, and you're one in five
who cares if they don't believe you?
Speaker 5 (23:58):
Right, And Dan, that's the thing right there, right like
we just said, and I said, they don't follow him.
We've talked about the player players only meetings. Players don't
go to player only meetings that they don't respect the
person that's holding the meeting. So I'm sure the fact
that he said that, I'm eighty percent sure that he's
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the one that called the meeting and some people were
late or didn't show up. Sure, And so yes, he
was angry about it and wanted to speak about it after.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
And then so then whose fault is that for not
showing up? If they don't respect to as a leader,
is that to his fault? I don't think it is
okay Because he's the quarterback of the team. I'm sorry,
there's more weight to that position. Any quarterback of the
team that isn't a rookie on that squad that is
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starting is a leader on that team by default, the.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
Dan by default. Yes, we had Brett Favf come in
for one year and no eight is he a captain? No,
But he got the sea on his chest because he's
the quarterback. And sure there's layers to what you're saying
there that.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
I thought that stood for creepy. That's what I'm kidding here.
You go ahead, but I didn't say that Brett. But no,
what I'm saying is like, is he the captain? No,
we look up to him and we thought he was
a great player. Obviously that comes with the territory. He's
Brett Farv. He had his own locker room. He was
in the locker room with the coaches, not with us.
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He's not He's not a leader. And so just because
Tua has the captain the Sea on his chest doesn't
mean people respect that. But his situation is different than
Fares of course, like Fars, Yeah, Fars got all the
years in the national football but he hasn't been in
the Jets locker room. Too, has been in the Dolphins
(25:48):
locker room since day one. Too, has been wrong to
the Dolphins locker room. Two, has been knocked out of games,
Like it hasn't been an easy ride, Like there's enough,
there's enough trial and tribulations where it's not like Tua
just came in and was like, all right, you're the
leader because you were a first round draft pick like
he's gone through enough to be that guy. I commended
I commended him for speaking his mind out, for speaking
(26:12):
his mind on Sunday. I didn't think the verbiage in
the words that he used were correct because I felt
leadership ended up reflecting on Mike McDaniel and it ended
up reflecting poorly on him. So if guys are late
for meetings, I don't care if you like tour or not.
You're a professional and it's up to them to show up.
(26:37):
And if the Dolphins have a problem with it, then
deal with the other players. Guess what's gonna be the
toughest one to get rid of of everybody else of course,
So like today of him coming in and then making
a public apology, kneeling to the to the gripes of
the other players who don't have any near the equity
in that organization that he does, just blows my mind.
(26:58):
I get that, I understand that. I just I was
curious when I heard too at the podium today because
quarterbacks will speak on Wednesday, and how things changed. Awful
sign they're going into Cleveland this week, I think they're
going to get beat by the Browns. If he's coming
(27:18):
back and having to apologize because there are some four
and five year veterans who were late for meetings and
now he's got to cover up for them as well.
I mean, it's bad enough he had to cover up
for Tyreek Hill's Shenanikins. But you're like, well, Tyre Kills,
Tyree Kill, he's a game changer. Maybe I got to
figure out a way to do it. I don't know
anybody else on the Dolphins worth covering up for, right, Yeah,
(27:39):
Devon Chen maybe maybe, but still doesn't make a lot
of sense to me.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
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Speaker 1 (27:53):
All right, let's spitball here, Isaac, just hang out with
us here. Shouldn't the NFL have facilities now? Like in London,
an NFL build two facilities.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
That's a really good idea, Like it's you.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Know, like, if you're trying to really expand the game,
and we know Roger Goodell wants sixteen international games a year,
if you're playing at least a fair share of them,
you shouldn't have the rams having to play in the
outfield of the Orioles, you know, I mean right, like
there's I know, like there's like the Greenbrier Resort in
West Virginia is where some training camps have been. Teams
(28:33):
go there. But why don't you just build two spots
in London for teams to house themselves. You've got that
much money, and then that's where they stay for the
week or or not or practice on the friday. Does
it make too much sense?
Speaker 7 (28:48):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (28:49):
Yes, thank you, Yes, yes it makes too much sense Dan,
And yes, you're you're right. Why wouldn't they if that's
the plan to they're talking about having a team over there, right,
so yeah, build towards it.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
And in the NFL's defense, that actually might conceivably have
been a RAMS decision to stay here or stay on
the East coast, conceivably because the RAMS have made a
number of international trips before where they've gone at various times,
So the whole staying in Baltimore, the oil park at
Camden Yards thing, that might have been more of a
(29:24):
RAMS decision than the NFL's decision. Just to give them
the benefit.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Of the dead, ye, just to stay in Baltimore. But
teams also now are trying to make it more of
a normal week, so they're flying over like on a Friday.
The Rams will have their own decision when they go
to Australia next year. Maybe maybe they'll stop in Fiji
and practice where Survivor holds their own limity challenges. They
can make a buck on that they will. Yeah, I
think so, you think Jeff Probes will be there. I'll
(29:48):
be like, all right, Rams, drop your buffs, we're about
to merge.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
Well, just I mean, just go a little bit further
to Bora then No, No, it's got to be an
in Fiji because that's where Survivor is.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
I mean they just camp in Hawaii or their mini
camp in Hawaii this year. That's actually not too far fetched.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
No it's not. But it's funnier to talk about Survivor, right,
maybe right, that's right, maybe Survivor auction. Matthew Stafford, he
just bring it back. Yes, all my five. Yes, you
get a crow's eye beat that. If you don't watch Survivor,
you have no idea what I'm talking about. Right? Could
(30:25):
you imagine Kyrien Williams trying to do the puzzle, you know,
he and uh, you know Pooka nakua at the end
its craziness. This is only Survivor Talk, new episode tonight
on CBS.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
He would probably have one of the pieces missing and
he doesn't know where it is, and it's the camera
shows it's on the ground two feet.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Away, and what's what's going on?
Speaker 5 (30:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I think that's no. Well, Matthew Stafford
and DeVante Adams are like sneaking over trying to see
how far they've got in their puzzle. These are all
the different yeah, all the different things.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
I don't know any of this. Dan, I am lost.
They would be ready, they would be they would be
ready to another lost.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
All right, there's enough Survivor talk, by the way, I
think they will drop their buff sun tonight's episode. Right, Yes,
that's a little sneak preview for tonight Survivor. All right.
It is Covino and Rich here on Fox Sports Radio.
He's carry roads the Allpro. I'm Dan byer Isaac Lowancron
is here, Ryan Bersinger and Ryan Smith hanging out for CNR,
who were in for Dan Patrick earlier today. It was
(31:24):
on Monday night that the Falcons got a huge win
against the Buffalo Bills. Rahim Mora said something in the
post game that was maybe not shocking, but a bit
surprising and something that I think carry Roads would agree with.
We'll dive into that next year on Fox Sports Radio.
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Speaker 1 (31:48):
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You can always check out their podcast. Go to Fox
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guys earlier today. Coming up Sunday Night, Football Week seven.
(32:13):
Fresh off of their win on Monday Nights against the
Buffalo Bills, the Atlanta Falcons will travel across country to
face the San Francisco forty nine ers. Instead of looking ahead,
I want to look back to something, where he Morris
said in the locker room of the Falcons victory over
the Bills on Monday Night.
Speaker 6 (32:33):
I know you have high expectations for bajon.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
But did you happy?
Speaker 6 (32:37):
You know, how special was this in comparison to his
what he does every other day.
Speaker 8 (32:41):
Yeah, he's the best playing football. I've said it multiple times.
I can't say it enough. You know, you can always
have your pick, you can always go out there and
figure out what you want to vote for. But like
am I paining, he's the best playing football.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
John Robinson four hundred and eighty four yards so far
in eighty three carries, two touchdowns. The monster game. That's
just his rushing staff, by the way, but the monster
game against the Bills this past week and to help
them get a win. Best player in football? You agree
with Raheem Morris's sentiment.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
No, he may be, he may be the most gifted,
doesn't mean you're the best player, right. I think there's
a caveat there that has to be addressed when you're
talking about you know, greats and being the best and
all whatever, all those proclamations people throw out there. But
b John Robinson is special. Dan like what he does
(33:34):
as the total package for a running back. He is
definitely the best running back in the league just from
a skill set. From the skill set that he has.
I mean he can run the ball in between the tackles,
There's no problem there. He can beat you with speed
to the outside, no problem there. But the thing that
makes him different than any of the other running backs,
and Christian McCaffrey has a little bit of this as well.
(33:57):
He can line up at the slot received and run
a route like a receiver, but he takes it a
step further than that though, And that's where the difference
with Christian McCaffrey is. Christian McCaffrey does the same thing
in slot, but if you put b John Robinson outside
at the X or the Z position receiver, he can
beat the corner one on one with this route running
(34:18):
as well. Like the kid is special. So I'm happy
for them that they're winning. They had a primetime game
where they stepped up and won a game. Now can
they parlay that? I mean, obviously I think he is
special and I think he's one of the best players
in the league, but I won't say best. But now
as a team, can they parlay this into the success
that I think that they can have, And that's that's
(34:38):
what I want to say there is I mean, it's I.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Think it's a part of the return of the running back. Yes,
sort of mantra that we've had in the NFL really
going back to last year with Shai Kwan Barkley. Yep,
even Derrick Henry in yours prior on how important he was,
and to your point, Christian McCaffrey is in that conversation
and as well when San Francisco is rolling. But I
(35:02):
think I look at those four guys specifically, and I'll
also say I'll also say this what Detroit does with
their two guys, with Gibbs in Montgomery and just committing
to the running game, it felt like everybody is trying
to catch up and trying to get that quarterback and
then you run essentially the same offense around the league,
(35:25):
and it's just who as the better what that may
have more success when you do something different like Tennessee
did with Derrick Henry and Baltimore is trying to do. Now,
when you do what San Francisco did. Was even going
to say Carolina to some extent prior to that. But
when you do what the Eagles then did with Saquan
and now what you're doing with with Bijon, it is
(35:47):
so important. And honestly, when we're talking about MVPs this year.
For as much hype as Daniel Jones has gotten for
the Colts and the success that he's had, Jonathan Taylor
has been got magnificent and he's actually the guy that
teams are probably worried about the most week in and
week out for the Indianapolis Colts. So yeah, so this
(36:08):
running back rebirth is a real thing. Now. It's granted
guys with extreme talent, Like, there's not another Bijon in
the league. Now, would you put him top five? Then,
if you're not gonna put him as the best player
in the league, would you put him top five of
best players in the league. That's a lot of good players.
But for the sake of right now, you take quarterbacks
(36:30):
out of Okay, take yes, because oh for sure, then
absolutely take quarterbacks out.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
Yes, because the quarterback thing is always hard to kind
of decipher.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
When Rahiem Morris said it, yeah, I went. You know,
I'm going through the database of players and you go
team by team, You're going through each division and sorry,
there's Quinn Williams. Nice for the Jets, but he's not
going to rise to that level.
Speaker 7 (36:53):
No.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
I got to the AFC North and I stopped on
Cleveland because I thought Miles Garrett, Okay, best best player
right now in the National Football League.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
That's that's where my role is. That's where you go
stop defense. That's that's that's actually good. Thanks Dan, thanks
for giving the defense from love because he is he is,
he's a great player as well.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
I think there's I think it has to be someone
who is just I mean Aaron Donald, I think held
the crown for about six straight years.
Speaker 5 (37:21):
He was the best defensive player I've ever seen, really,
not even not sugar coat net at all. The most disruptive, talented,
unblockable player I have I've seen in my days. Obviously,
people talk about Lawrence Taylor, but I didn't see a
lot of Lawrence Taylor, Ryan Berschinger. If we say best
(37:41):
player in the National Football League right now, non quarterback,
is there a name that pops up into your mind?
Speaker 2 (37:47):
My initial gut reaction was Miles Garrett. All right, I
want to also throw in Patrick Sartan. I was going
to say that is what I was as well. I
was gonna say that good job.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
Cron have thought is stuck at the stage at Joe
alt Oh.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
I wish, yes, boy do I wish he needs to
come back and play Isaac the host of the Chargers
pre and post game. I know, Ryan, Ryan Smith, Max Crosby,
you read my mind. I see all right. I love
all his love for the defense though, guys, I appreciate that.
But it's it's it's usually edge, yes or offensive tackle.
Speaker 5 (38:28):
That's what makes Donald That's what I was about to say.
He's that he's that different. It's it's you don't see
it because inside you're getting doubled all the time, and
for him, he was getting tripled and still you couldnot
stop the guy.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
It was. It was insane. I do think Raheem Morris
believes that. But it also have been really weird if
he was like the fourth best player in the NFL
Jean Robinson. And I've said that all along, he's in
my top five. Yeah, that would have been That would
have been crazy. When you start to like put quarterbacks
and it's just it's a completely different game. Yeah, because
it's honestly, and Patrick Mahomes without there now they're doing
(39:06):
on offense, like that's a name that pops up Lamar obviously.
Josh Allen, Yeah, those names not Josh Allen. The last
couple of weeks.
Speaker 5 (39:13):
But but but then the thing is like Josh Allen
and Patrick Mahomes, none of those guys. The only one,
probably Lamar could play receiver and run a round, you
know what I mean, Like, Yeah, that's all the stuff
he's carry roads.
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Speaker 1 (00:19):
You made it to the middle of the week. Congratulations,
that's not a great thing for the Milwaukee Brewers. There's
a better chance of the Brewers getting a hit than
us starting with the NLCS today, I'm telling you it's
been a rough two days for Brewer fans Dodger fans
here in southern California where we are based, already making
World Series plans. This thing is over. We'll talk some
(00:40):
NLCS coming up a little bit later. There is no
Coveno in Rich today because the guys were in for
Dan Patrick earlier today up around the time Carry always
gets up bright and early. Actually it's not even bright
when you get up, is it. It is not bright
at all. It's very dim. It's very damn. He is
an early riser. Me not so much welcome in We
are in for CNR today. There's no dam but there
(01:01):
is a Ryan b Ryan Berschinger is our executive producer today. Hye,
Ryan Smith, our technical producer. What's going on, Ryan di'angelo
rest in power? Yes, yeah, all right, absolutely absolutely, And
Isaac Low and cron Is at the news desk is
gonna be with us giving us all the great updates
of the day.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Hello, Isaac, salutation, Sorry about your Brewers Dad.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
It's not over yet yet. Well, we'll see, I'll tell you,
I'll just I'll say one thing about there is there's
when you're trying to enjoy a baseball game and you
only can enjoy about eight minutes of it because it's
just like, go, the first pitch of the game, gone right,
everything great, Here we go turning it around, taking that
(01:48):
momentum carry from the end of Game one when you
almost made the comeback first batter of the game. Brewers
are often running this is a new Brewers team, and
yeah that that's it basically for the rest of the game.
It was a tough one last night. Last night was
tougher to watch actually than Game one because you still
(02:10):
actually thought that you had a chance in Game one
because the Dodgers weren't doing anything. And then last night
at the Dodgers adding on Paz with the double, ta
Oscar Hernandez the home run, and then it was just
downhill from there. It was a rough night if you're
a Brewers fan. Dodgers fans absolutely loving up. But they're
up to Oh, we got a bigger question when it
comes to the Dodgers and Brewers, and just a little bit,
(02:32):
how are you doing without your Yankees playing right now?
Why did you have to bring that up?
Speaker 5 (02:36):
That's I mean, you could have wallowed in your own
self there for a bit. Misery loves companies. I see
that you just kind of cazively tossed that to the side.
But the Yankees will be back, you know, they're they're
never gone too far from the from the radar. And
you know, a couple of key signings here and there,
I mean one or two, and get Garrett Cole back
next year, we'll be back in the mix.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
But we gotta worry about the Brewers right now. You
guys are having to.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Deal with obviously the most well constructed baseball team on
the planet, and we'll get into that later.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
But they're does really good when they're on. And yeah,
the Dodgers are inevitable, is what I've heard for the
last week, and I kind of just tossed to the side,
and now you're starting to wonder, Okay, maybe that's the case.
Brewers haven't hit. It's it's it's their own fault. But
a credit to Blake Snell and Yoshinobu Yamamoto, who've had
(03:26):
a great performances. Yamamoto with the complete game last night.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
I mean, sho Hey hasn't hit either, So I mean
they're just so deep and doesn't you know what I mean,
like it doesn't matter for them.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Firstly, your team won, I mean the Dodgers won last night,
but I mean it was was was Game two a
more enjoyable watch for you? Or Game one is a
Dodgers fan? Game two was? I was Game one?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I felt like I needed a cigarette, yeah, to the
end of Game one, so but not in a good way,
in a in a like my heart was pounding and
I actually needed to sit down and relax for ten minutes.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
And they're a healthy your ways instead of having the cigarettes,
that's right, dip your faces and mice so something called
that's yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
I don't know what you guys. I thought it was
kind of bs. The birds didn't pull any eight six
two double plays last night, Like you're like, what a joke?
You know, like, what are you doing? What are you doing?
But uh, we'll get to more baseball later on and
really a bigger, bigger outlook for what could be the
outlook of the NLCS and the possible World Series. The
reason I bring up your Yankees, Oh here we go again. No, No,
I'm not. I'm transitioning, okay, because there's a team in
(04:28):
New York that you're starting to fall in love with. Yes,
and you've already fell in love with the Yankees and
they've broken your heart. But this is this is so
the NFL as we enter Week seven right now, Carrier Oats,
the team you're starting to fall in love with is.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
The New York Giants. I'm starting to fall in love with.
You know what they can be now? We know they're
still a little bit away, it seems. But when you
bring in a pl like Jackson Dart and you're bringing
a player like Cam Scattaboo, and these guys aren't afraid
of anything, doesn't even matter if they win right now,
(05:10):
Like for me, it's they're building something special and they
have a core group of guys now and then you
think about bringing Malik Neighbors back if he gets back healthy,
and then you have weapons, you have something to hang
your hat on moving forward. And then you talk about
We've talked about day Ball before, right, and so we
pretty much had him out the door this year, and
(05:30):
there really wasn't any saving grace with anything that was happening.
They were starting Russell Wilson. I'm like, that doesn't make
any sense, So like, what are you doing? Then you
bring in the guy that has all the confidence in
the world but also has the game to back it up,
and it lights a fire underneath this teammates. You can
see his teammates fighting with them, He's conversing with them
and having these raw, raw moments as teammates. And so
(05:53):
when you see that energy come into the building, it
might just save Brian dave Ball's job. And also when
you look at the NF and you look at their schedule,
because I just looked at it because I was like, Okay,
I am high on them, But then I looked at
the schedule and the schedule looks tough on paper. But
then the Eagles are struggling, so like the Denver Broncos
are Okay, like you know, it's not like it's yeah,
(06:14):
crazy to see them kind of win some games here.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
The Broncos are their opponent in Week seven, and I
think just as a whole, when you look at the
NFC East, the NFC East isn't what it was when
we were starting. Yes, a little more than a month
ago in Week one, so a month and a half ago,
we're looking at at how the NFL is shaping out
and or saying, man, you're the if you're the Cowboys,
who again, we're gonna be without Micah Parsons. We knew
(06:39):
they were going to be going to be holes there.
But the Giants we also did not think a lot
of and you thought Commanders and Eagles. I wasn't as
high on the Commanders, but I would say generally most
people are, well, that's four losses right away, Like the
Eagles are going to beat the Giants both times, and
the Commanders is going to beat the Giants both times
right right for what they had and and well that
can't happen anymore because the Giants already beaten the Eagles
(07:00):
did so last week. But now you even look at
the standings and all the Giants are in last place.
Right now, you still have Philadelphia sitting there at four
and two. You've got Washington middle of the pack at
three and three, and you have the Cowboys with their
tie with the Packers, but they're still a two win team.
So I don't know if it's and I know you're
not saying it's this year, no, but it's more of
(07:22):
a competitive division. Even with the Giants team that lost
on the road to New Orleans, I mean New Orleans
gave the Patriots and Fits this this past weekend. There
is more there and more of a possibility for the
Giants to make headway in the NFC East even this season.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
And you always high on the Giants D line and
their pass to us Lawrence Brian burns something, right, and
so now like they have something to play a little
bit harder for. Right, When you have a guy that
you believe in, it really elevates the room.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Right.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
And so now defensively, we're not just out there playing
to make sacks and make our money. Now it's like
I believe even the product that we put on the field.
And that's a different story. You can feel that interview.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
You said something earlier and our executive producer Ryan Berschinger
has printed out these great numbers that we were talking
about pre show. Are you ready for this? What's on
July eighth? Odds to have Brian Dabole be fired the
first head coach fired in the National Football League were
(08:24):
four to one. Yeah, shortest odds of anyone. Mike McDaniel
was second. This is July eighth, five to one. Shane
Steiken of the Colts was third, six to one. This
is July eighth, right. The guy who got fired this
week Brian Callahan ten to one. In fact, there were
(08:45):
seven coaches that were ahead of Brian Callahan on July
eighth of most likely to lose their job first in
the NFL. Moving along to September twenty fifth, all right,
let me say the first one. Dan, Okay, let's say it.
Mike McDaniel's got to be number one. He was. In fact,
he was minus one fifty. That's how bad it was
(09:07):
the Dolphins. He was minus one fifty. Brian Callahan was
plus one fifty. Brian Dable third, so he had dropped
the third at plus three hundred. September twenty fifth was
between weeks three and four of the season, So you
end up making the change to Jackson Dart at that point,
(09:31):
and the odds the odds now as of October eighth,
This was a week ago today. Brian Callahan was then
minus money one thirty, Mike McDaniels plus one fifteen, Brian
Dables plus three hundred. I don't have the updated odds
for today, but Brian Dable was Numero uno first coach
(09:53):
to be out the door. Brian Callahan was eighth on
that list. We are six weeks into the season and
now Allahan is out of a job and day Ball
by attaching himself to Jackson Dart yep and attaching himself
to Cam Skataboo, which is a trend that I think
coaches in the NFL, if they haven't caught on to,
need to catch on to, may have saved his job
(10:16):
in New York, which, by the way, when Sakwon Barkley
was running all over the NFL last season, it seemed
like a far fetched idea. Now to have day Ball
and even Joe Shane their gms stick around. Yeah, I
think it may have saved their jobs in New York,
and I don't.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
And there were reports that a lot of people in
the organization wanted Jackson Dart to start day one, and
I think that's the other part of it, right, So
you there's there's this you know, as a head coach,
you want to have stability at that quarterback position, and
you want to have somebody that can at least execute
(10:52):
what you want to get done. And I'm sure that
may have been some of the thinking with Russell Wilson
having history right and having played a lot of games
in the NFL. So that's fine. But when you got
Zackson Dart and a lot of us talked about it,
like the energy surrounding him going in a lot of
people didn't know what he was going to be, but
(11:14):
I was very huge on him, seeing him at old
miss being able to make all the throws. But also
just the energy I was talking about. In the NFL,
it gets mundane. Those guys are professionals, they've done it
a long time, right, So when you get new energy
in there that can actually get the job done, it's
such a different It's such a difference makerp Do you want.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
To know the real reason why I think this story
is relevant today? Why is that it's not because the
Giants are coming off of a week's Week six win
against the Philadelphia Eagles. It is because Brian Callahan got
fired this week and James Franklin got fired on Sunday,
and so you look at college football and it's the
what have you done for me lately? And listen, James
(11:54):
Franklin's situation in Penn State is one that we've always
talked about. I just don't think you fire the guy
mid season in when two and a half weeks ago
you were on a quest to win a national championship
and maybe run the table and go undefeated with everybody
coming back. I understand Drew Aller's injury makes things different.
The three straight losses, how poorly they looked against UCLA,
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I get all of that stuff. I don't think he
should have been fired. But Mike McDaniel, according to these odds,
should have been fired in week three. He has not
been as if yet, for whatever reason, the Dolphins are
sitting there at one and five. The Titans got to
the point, and I said this yesterday on the network
that I think that they fired Brian Callahan because they
didn't want Mike Rabel and the Patriots to come in
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and run all over them. And if Brian Callahan be
the guy that replaced Mike rabel Oh would make him
look even worse. There are a lot of reasons on
why these moves are made, and in fact, the Giants
move to Jackson Dark didn't even make sense at the time.
And the reason I say that is because if you're
starting Russell Wilson at the beginning of the season, you're saying,
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we want to go with the veteran, Well, you're ready
to move off the veteran three games in. Apparently they were,
and it has worked for them to this point. However, Carrie,
they signed another veteran that we know, Jameis Winston is
on that team, and so if Russell Wilson wasn't working,
I thought they were gonna go to Jameis Winston. I
thought he was gonna be because Jackson Dart was the
late first round pick that they wanted to maybe wait
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some more time and when the season was lost or
was really getting out of hand, then they could put
Dart in. But that's not what happened at all. And
maybe Brian Dabele was playing chess and I'm playing checkers here,
but by starting Russell Wilson, he has one great game
against the Cowboys, but still throws a bad interception and
then is embarrassed on Sunday Night Football in a game
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against the Chiefs where we see the errors of Russell
Wilson that made Brian Dable look like a genius. Because
now Jackson Dart enters the game with a cape and
Cam scattab who has been his own sort of bit
of sensation. But if you don't have Russell Wilson having
poor performances in the first couple of games year for
the Giants, you don't get as big of a boom
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for Jackson Dart if you start the week one.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
I actually agree with that, but I also look at
the the.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Approach of what if as well?
Speaker 5 (14:10):
Right, So even if that's the case, Dan, and that
could be true, and I love to take but what
about the games you left out there? Like this canna
be a different story, right, Like if Jackson Dart is
playing Day one the way he's playing right now, do
they win a one or two of those games and
a different person?
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Yeah? They yeah? Do they know what I mean? Do
they beat the Cowboys in that that shootout game? Do
they fare better against Kansas City again, a Jackson Dart
team did loose to New Orleans or the Saints. But
it was also a game where the Giants were driving
there was a cam scataboo fumble that they pick up
and run all the way back. So we're talking about
you know, we're talking about a play here and a
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play there. And you played eight years in the league,
you were an All Pro. You know how one play
can make the difference in anything. But it's just interesting
on how the tenor the feeling around the New York Giants.
And I'm sitting next to a guy who's half of
his career with the Jets right now, and they're a miserable,
winless team despite the new energy that's going to be
tried to be infused in the in the organization, it's
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just been a tough goal for them. And you hear
the Giants realistically probably haven't done that much better, but
still it seems like it's a world of difference. And
you're right, I actually think that when you look at
their future, if you have this combo with a healthy
Molik neighbors next year, you drafted at Dual Carter out
of Penn State with your first round pick, So if
you have to make moves with other guys, your defensive
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line and your your pressure, and your quarterback is still there.
I never would have thought that I'd be saying this,
but I think Brian Dable and Joe Shane of a
future with the Giants. It's crazy.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
You get a quarterback and you actually you actually cash
in on that, on that number one pick for a quarterback,
and you make it work.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Man. It changes the whole whole thing. It saved John
Harbaugh's job in Baltimore years back with Lamar Jackson. Yes,
when you had to move off of Joe Flacco, and
I think that was even more difficult because of Joe
Flacca and what he meant with the Ravens organization and
winning a Super Bowl. But you had to do what
you had to do. Now, John Harbaugh's coming under fire
now for how the season has started for the Ravens.
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They'll get Lamar back after the bye in Week seven.
But it is a recipe that I do believe in.
If the Chicago Bears would have had success last season, yeah,
obviously Matt eber Flus would still have been the head coach.
They wouldn't have had to fire the offensive coordinator and
then fire the head coach and tear it all down
with Caleb Williams, but it didn't work out maybe for
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their own doings. But if you can get success from
your rookie quarterback and not show dysfunction and show a
new energy again. They're two and four, but it feels
like they're three and three. Like it honestly does, it
can really change things around. He's carry roads. I'm Dan
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next here on Fox Sports Radio.
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Speaker 5 (18:53):
By the way, you know what's crazy, Dan wellhy couldn't
Glad Junior be hitting away? He's hitting right now in
this series right he's hitting zero percent right now. In
the Yankees series, he's bat in a thousand. That was crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
The Brewers are hitting zero I think in this NLCS truly,
it's been uh, it's been a rough go scene shifts
for the NLCS. Yes to La tomorrow where it's chili here.
It's been rainy, it rained yesterday and now a little
cool day, but starting to warm up over the next
couple of days. I don't know if it's going to
warm up in Miami from the chill of tou a
(19:27):
tongue of I Looa and his words that he had
on Sunday about his team, attacking the leadership of the
team and players not showing up for player only meetings,
saying some were late, some didn't show up at all.
I thought it was an attack on Mike McDaniel as well,
because anytime you bring in leadership, I think it's to
attacking himself if he's the quarterback. Tua talked about his
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comments that he made on Sunday earlier today.
Speaker 7 (19:53):
As a leader of this team of the Miami Dolphins,
you know the comments that had been said, I would say,
I've made a mistake, and I'm owning up to that
right now, and I've talked to guys on the team
about it, talk to the leaders about it, and they
know my heart. They know that the intent was right.
But you know, the intent can be right, but when
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things get misconstrued or however the media wants to portray it,
you know that leaves a void of silence and a
lot of questions for the guys on our team.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
There's nothing misconstrued. I mean he said what he said,
He meant what he said. Now, this recanting of what
he tried well, trying to recant what he said here
is just coming from the front office, right, that's coming
from the Miami Dolphins and telling them to temper it
down and try to cool that situation down. And you know,
at the end of the day, he's lost his team.
(20:49):
This team doesn't believe Intua. I mean, you can look
at him when he go out and play like he
doesn't elevate them. There's a disconnect. And like I've told
you before, Dan about too, I really feel like and
this is me like at the player carry like I
really worry about him hit and his and his mental
health and the stuff from the concussion stuff. For me,
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like it's a big thing for me. When I see him.
He doesn't look like he has that spark in his
eye that he had once he first came in. And
there's a lot that goes to playing a quarterback position
outside of playing the game well. And he's just not
managing that well at all.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
There's a different view of to when you watch him
play Now every single time you cringe when he's about
to get hit, or could take a hit. Yes, because
of what we've seen on multiple occasions in the National
Football League. Not to make any joke about of that
stuff or not, but I kind of cringe when I
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hear the apology because guess how many players and my
guess so many players don't guess, because I'm going to
tell you the answer. Guess how many players have more
experience than to a tongue of aiload on the Dolphins roster?
You do. Harry will only text me when his picks
are right. He is radio silence when they're wrong. You
(22:08):
picked the Lions on Sunday night. I didn't hear a
peep from him, No damn.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
But look they had all six dbs. Myth that didn't happen. Yeah,
they needed.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Two graphics at separate screens for NBC to put that up. Okay,
all right, take a guess that have more experience in
the NFL. How many players on the Dolphins rosters have
more experienced than TUA does, more years in the NFL
than he does.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
I'd say one. Darren Waller, Okay, he's one of them. Yeah,
there's five, okay, but Darren Waller is one. And Darren
Waller's been a Dolphin for two months, right right?
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Yeah? Who are the other leaders he's talking about? Who
are the other leaders that he had to talk with
and clarify If you're not that leader, Yeah, that's like,
this is his team. A quarterback who wears the C
patch on his jersey is a captain, a leader of
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this team. If you believe what you said, if you
believe in the words that you're saying, you don't need
to apologize. And I think that's part of the problem
with the Dolphins is who is calling out the leaders? Dude,
you're one of them. If not, you're one A. The
quarterback of the team. With only five other players with
more years alec Ingolds, I know been in Miami for
(23:28):
a while. Here's not a lifelong Dolphin. He played for
the Raiders for a little bit. Cedric Wilson has been
in different spots throughout the league. He has more years
than two A. But they're only five players on the
roster that have actually been in the NFL longer. He's
been in Miami longer than pretty much anybody on the team,
and you're the quarterback of the team. That's my problem
with it is, so now you're going back on it.
(23:51):
You said what you said, and you're one in five
who cares if they don't believe you?
Speaker 5 (23:58):
Right, And Dan, that's the thing right there, right like
we just said, and I said, they don't follow him.
We've talked about the player players only meetings. Players don't
go to player only meetings that they don't respect the
person that's holding the meeting. So I'm sure the fact
that he said that, I'm eighty percent sure that he's
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the one that called the meeting and some people were
late or didn't show up. Sure, And so yes, he
was angry about it and wanted to speak about it after.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
And then so then whose fault is that for not
showing up? If they don't respect to as a leader,
is that to his fault? I don't think it is
okay Because he's the quarterback of the team. I'm sorry,
there's more weight to that position. Any quarterback of the
team that isn't a rookie on that squad that is
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starting is a leader on that team by default, the.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
Dan by default. Yes, we had Brett Favf come in
for one year and no eight is he a captain? No,
But he got the sea on his chest because he's
the quarterback. And sure there's layers to what you're saying
there that.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
I thought that stood for creepy. That's what I'm kidding here.
You go ahead, but I didn't say that Brett. But no,
what I'm saying is like, is he the captain? No,
we look up to him and we thought he was
a great player. Obviously that comes with the territory. He's
Brett Farv. He had his own locker room. He was
in the locker room with the coaches, not with us.
(25:27):
He's not He's not a leader. And so just because
Tua has the captain the Sea on his chest doesn't
mean people respect that. But his situation is different than
Fares of course, like Fars, Yeah, Fars got all the
years in the national football but he hasn't been in
the Jets locker room. Too, has been in the Dolphins
(25:48):
locker room since day one. Too, has been wrong to
the Dolphins locker room. Two, has been knocked out of games,
Like it hasn't been an easy ride, Like there's enough,
there's enough trial and tribulations where it's not like Tua
just came in and was like, all right, you're the
leader because you were a first round draft pick like
he's gone through enough to be that guy. I commended
I commended him for speaking his mind out, for speaking
(26:12):
his mind on Sunday. I didn't think the verbiage in
the words that he used were correct because I felt
leadership ended up reflecting on Mike McDaniel and it ended
up reflecting poorly on him. So if guys are late
for meetings, I don't care if you like tour or not.
You're a professional and it's up to them to show up.
(26:37):
And if the Dolphins have a problem with it, then
deal with the other players. Guess what's gonna be the
toughest one to get rid of of everybody else of course,
So like today of him coming in and then making
a public apology, kneeling to the to the gripes of
the other players who don't have any near the equity
in that organization that he does, just blows my mind.
(26:58):
I get that, I understand that. I just I was
curious when I heard too at the podium today because
quarterbacks will speak on Wednesday, and how things changed. Awful
sign they're going into Cleveland this week, I think they're
going to get beat by the Browns. If he's coming
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back and having to apologize because there are some four
and five year veterans who were late for meetings and
now he's got to cover up for them as well.
I mean, it's bad enough he had to cover up
for Tyreek Hill's Shenanikins. But you're like, well, Tyre Kills,
Tyree Kill, he's a game changer. Maybe I got to
figure out a way to do it. I don't know
anybody else on the Dolphins worth covering up for, right, Yeah,
(27:39):
Devon Chen maybe maybe, but still doesn't make a lot
of sense to me.
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Speaker 1 (27:53):
All right, let's spitball here, Isaac, just hang out with
us here. Shouldn't the NFL have facilities now? Like in London,
an NFL build two facilities.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
That's a really good idea, Like it's you.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Know, like, if you're trying to really expand the game,
and we know Roger Goodell wants sixteen international games a year,
if you're playing at least a fair share of them,
you shouldn't have the rams having to play in the
outfield of the Orioles, you know, I mean right, like
there's I know, like there's like the Greenbrier Resort in
West Virginia is where some training camps have been. Teams
(28:33):
go there. But why don't you just build two spots
in London for teams to house themselves. You've got that
much money, and then that's where they stay for the
week or or not or practice on the friday. Does
it make too much sense?
Speaker 7 (28:48):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (28:49):
Yes, thank you, Yes, yes it makes too much sense Dan,
And yes, you're you're right. Why wouldn't they if that's
the plan to they're talking about having a team over there, right,
so yeah, build towards it.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
And in the NFL's defense, that actually might conceivably have
been a RAMS decision to stay here or stay on
the East coast, conceivably because the RAMS have made a
number of international trips before where they've gone at various times,
So the whole staying in Baltimore, the oil park at
Camden Yards thing, that might have been more of a
(29:24):
RAMS decision than the NFL's decision. Just to give them
the benefit.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Of the dead, ye, just to stay in Baltimore. But
teams also now are trying to make it more of
a normal week, so they're flying over like on a Friday.
The Rams will have their own decision when they go
to Australia next year. Maybe maybe they'll stop in Fiji
and practice where Survivor holds their own limity challenges. They
can make a buck on that they will. Yeah, I
think so, you think Jeff Probes will be there. I'll
(29:48):
be like, all right, Rams, drop your buffs, we're about
to merge.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
Well, just I mean, just go a little bit further
to Bora then No, No, it's got to be an
in Fiji because that's where Survivor is.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
I mean they just camp in Hawaii or their mini
camp in Hawaii this year. That's actually not too far fetched.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
No it's not. But it's funnier to talk about Survivor, right,
maybe right, that's right, maybe Survivor auction. Matthew Stafford, he
just bring it back. Yes, all my five. Yes, you
get a crow's eye beat that. If you don't watch Survivor,
you have no idea what I'm talking about. Right? Could
(30:25):
you imagine Kyrien Williams trying to do the puzzle, you know,
he and uh, you know Pooka nakua at the end
its craziness. This is only Survivor Talk, new episode tonight
on CBS.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
He would probably have one of the pieces missing and
he doesn't know where it is, and it's the camera
shows it's on the ground two feet.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Away, and what's what's going on?
Speaker 5 (30:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I think that's no. Well, Matthew Stafford
and DeVante Adams are like sneaking over trying to see
how far they've got in their puzzle. These are all
the different yeah, all the different things.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
I don't know any of this. Dan, I am lost.
They would be ready, they would be they would be
ready to another lost.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
All right, there's enough Survivor talk, by the way, I
think they will drop their buff sun tonight's episode. Right, Yes,
that's a little sneak preview for tonight Survivor. All right.
It is Covino and Rich here on Fox Sports Radio.
He's carry roads the Allpro. I'm Dan byer Isaac Lowancron
is here, Ryan Bersinger and Ryan Smith hanging out for CNR,
who were in for Dan Patrick earlier today. It was
(31:24):
on Monday night that the Falcons got a huge win
against the Buffalo Bills. Rahim Mora said something in the
post game that was maybe not shocking, but a bit
surprising and something that I think carry Roads would agree with.
We'll dive into that next year on Fox Sports Radio.
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Speaker 1 (31:48):
We got some bactioner on Covino and Rich here on
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guys earlier today. Coming up Sunday Night, Football Week seven.
(32:13):
Fresh off of their win on Monday Nights against the
Buffalo Bills, the Atlanta Falcons will travel across country to
face the San Francisco forty nine ers. Instead of looking ahead,
I want to look back to something, where he Morris
said in the locker room of the Falcons victory over
the Bills on Monday Night.
Speaker 6 (32:33):
I know you have high expectations for bajon.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
But did you happy?
Speaker 6 (32:37):
You know, how special was this in comparison to his
what he does every other day.
Speaker 8 (32:41):
Yeah, he's the best playing football. I've said it multiple times.
I can't say it enough. You know, you can always
have your pick, you can always go out there and
figure out what you want to vote for. But like
am I paining, he's the best playing football.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
John Robinson four hundred and eighty four yards so far
in eighty three carries, two touchdowns. The monster game. That's
just his rushing staff, by the way, but the monster
game against the Bills this past week and to help
them get a win. Best player in football? You agree
with Raheem Morris's sentiment.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
No, he may be, he may be the most gifted,
doesn't mean you're the best player, right. I think there's
a caveat there that has to be addressed when you're
talking about you know, greats and being the best and
all whatever, all those proclamations people throw out there. But
b John Robinson is special. Dan like what he does
(33:34):
as the total package for a running back. He is
definitely the best running back in the league just from
a skill set. From the skill set that he has.
I mean he can run the ball in between the tackles,
There's no problem there. He can beat you with speed
to the outside, no problem there. But the thing that
makes him different than any of the other running backs,
and Christian McCaffrey has a little bit of this as well.
(33:57):
He can line up at the slot received and run
a route like a receiver, but he takes it a
step further than that though, And that's where the difference
with Christian McCaffrey is. Christian McCaffrey does the same thing
in slot, but if you put b John Robinson outside
at the X or the Z position receiver, he can
beat the corner one on one with this route running
(34:18):
as well. Like the kid is special. So I'm happy
for them that they're winning. They had a primetime game
where they stepped up and won a game. Now can
they parlay that? I mean, obviously I think he is
special and I think he's one of the best players
in the league, but I won't say best. But now
as a team, can they parlay this into the success
that I think that they can have, And that's that's
(34:38):
what I want to say there is I mean, it's I.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Think it's a part of the return of the running back. Yes,
sort of mantra that we've had in the NFL really
going back to last year with Shai Kwan Barkley. Yep,
even Derrick Henry in yours prior on how important he was,
and to your point, Christian McCaffrey is in that conversation
and as well when San Francisco is rolling. But I
(35:02):
think I look at those four guys specifically, and I'll
also say I'll also say this what Detroit does with
their two guys, with Gibbs in Montgomery and just committing
to the running game, it felt like everybody is trying
to catch up and trying to get that quarterback and
then you run essentially the same offense around the league,
(35:25):
and it's just who as the better what that may
have more success when you do something different like Tennessee
did with Derrick Henry and Baltimore is trying to do. Now,
when you do what San Francisco did. Was even going
to say Carolina to some extent prior to that. But
when you do what the Eagles then did with Saquan
and now what you're doing with with Bijon, it is
(35:47):
so important. And honestly, when we're talking about MVPs this year.
For as much hype as Daniel Jones has gotten for
the Colts and the success that he's had, Jonathan Taylor
has been got magnificent and he's actually the guy that
teams are probably worried about the most week in and
week out for the Indianapolis Colts. So yeah, so this
(36:08):
running back rebirth is a real thing. Now. It's granted
guys with extreme talent, Like, there's not another Bijon in
the league. Now, would you put him top five? Then,
if you're not gonna put him as the best player
in the league, would you put him top five of
best players in the league. That's a lot of good players.
But for the sake of right now, you take quarterbacks
(36:30):
out of Okay, take yes, because oh for sure, then
absolutely take quarterbacks out.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
Yes, because the quarterback thing is always hard to kind
of decipher.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
When Rahiem Morris said it, yeah, I went. You know,
I'm going through the database of players and you go
team by team, You're going through each division and sorry,
there's Quinn Williams. Nice for the Jets, but he's not
going to rise to that level.
Speaker 7 (36:53):
No.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
I got to the AFC North and I stopped on
Cleveland because I thought Miles Garrett, Okay, best best player
right now in the National Football League.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
That's that's where my role is. That's where you go
stop defense. That's that's that's actually good. Thanks Dan, thanks
for giving the defense from love because he is he is,
he's a great player as well.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
I think there's I think it has to be someone
who is just I mean Aaron Donald, I think held
the crown for about six straight years.
Speaker 5 (37:21):
He was the best defensive player I've ever seen, really,
not even not sugar coat net at all. The most disruptive, talented,
unblockable player I have I've seen in my days. Obviously,
people talk about Lawrence Taylor, but I didn't see a
lot of Lawrence Taylor, Ryan Berschinger. If we say best
(37:41):
player in the National Football League right now, non quarterback,
is there a name that pops up into your mind?
Speaker 2 (37:47):
My initial gut reaction was Miles Garrett. All right, I
want to also throw in Patrick Sartan. I was going
to say that is what I was as well. I
was gonna say that good job.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
Cron have thought is stuck at the stage at Joe
alt Oh.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
I wish, yes, boy do I wish he needs to
come back and play Isaac the host of the Chargers
pre and post game. I know, Ryan, Ryan Smith, Max Crosby,
you read my mind. I see all right. I love
all his love for the defense though, guys, I appreciate that.
But it's it's it's usually edge, yes or offensive tackle.
Speaker 5 (38:28):
That's what makes Donald That's what I was about to say.
He's that he's that different. It's it's you don't see
it because inside you're getting doubled all the time, and
for him, he was getting tripled and still you couldnot
stop the guy.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
It was. It was insane. I do think Raheem Morris
believes that. But it also have been really weird if
he was like the fourth best player in the NFL
Jean Robinson. And I've said that all along, he's in
my top five. Yeah, that would have been That would
have been crazy. When you start to like put quarterbacks
and it's just it's a completely different game. Yeah, because
it's honestly, and Patrick Mahomes without there now they're doing
(39:06):
on offense, like that's a name that pops up Lamar obviously.
Josh Allen, Yeah, those names not Josh Allen. The last
couple of weeks.
Speaker 5 (39:13):
But but but then the thing is like Josh Allen
and Patrick Mahomes, none of those guys. The only one,
probably Lamar could play receiver and run a round, you
know what I mean, Like, Yeah, that's all the stuff
he's carry roads.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
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