April 8, 2024 • 37 mins
Dan and Monse in for C&R as they discuss the weekend that Caitlin Clark and her Iowa team had as her team came up short against South Carolina in the title game. Dan and Monse give their best guesses as to why Major League Baseball has had such a bad rash elbow injuries with it's pitchers. Plus, Dan has an issue with Iowa Sam being a topper.
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
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Speaker 2 (00:40):
Way to hit the post.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Nancy Belong, You don't even know what that means, but
I'm glad I did it.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
It's a total shell because Iowa Sam is here. Hello,
Iowa Sam.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Hello.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Wiping up those tears from yesterday where their tears are
long dried, they are tiers of sadness, tiers of gratitude.
After that, Iowa loss to Self.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
Care Carolina, mostly gratitude, the second place mostly got. I
got a little teary listening to head coach Lisa Bluter
after the.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
AH yes, but tugging at the heart strings. Jason Stewart
is our executive producer hanging out today. Hello, Hello, Hello.
Speaker 6 (01:14):
I think Lisa blued sounds like some kind of a
digestive issue.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
I had a Lisa Bluter or a great frat name,
you know, blooter. It sounds like something an animal house
like Jason's.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I like that. Nick Cope is here, Doctor Nick Cope.
What's going on?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Doctor doctor?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Well you're talking medicine, why not?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
You have been hi.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
We have got a lot to talk to and we
may need Nick's, uh doctor expertise talking about the fragile
arms in Major League Baseball.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Not a doctor for the record, I just want to
put that out.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
There, Doctor Phil went on, Doctor Cope. Actually, it sounds
really good. Who's hey, you know who's your GP doctor?
Speaker 7 (02:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Would you meet him?
Speaker 4 (02:02):
You know the surgeon general back in the day, doctor c. Everett.
Speaker 8 (02:06):
Although he pronounced it coupe, he pronounced it incorrectly, but
same spelling.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
So we've shed some tears, we will dive into some elbows.
Your takeaway, Manci. Now that the women's tournament is over,
South Carolina completes their unbeaten season getting revenge on Iowa.
Now that it's all done, it's in the books. You
heard Nick talk about the viewership as a whole. How
(02:35):
do you look back at what we witnessed, maybe not
only yesterday, but over the last couple of weeks, last
couple of months, last couple of years.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yeah, you know, after this season, really really proud of
what the ladies have done in the college basketball world
because this time last year, I was paying attention also
to Caitlin Clark. I was watching, you know, her play
against LSU and Angel. But this year it doubled, if
(03:02):
not tripled, my interest in other players like it really
like I am genuinely looking forward to some of the
storylines going into the WNBA, and so I'm super happy.
I'm looking forward to it. And there is little things
that I wish didn't happen, but in the grand scheme
of it, really awesome, really awesome couple of months and weeks.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Really, I think that it would have been a great
fairy tale story book ending if Iowa and Caitlin Clark
cut down the nets.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Yes, yes, However.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
However, with South Carolina completing what they did, and I
think that South Carolina has that opportunity. This is a
third national championship under down stay, you've just completed in
an unbeaten season. Look, Caitlin Clark's gone, she is no
longer there. I would I'd be curious within five years
(03:56):
from now, if say South Carolina goes on a run
and this increased attention that we have on women's college basketball,
if that maybe we look back at it and say,
all right, that was a part of it as well,
Because now South Carolina is in the same breath as
the Yukon's or the Tennesseees that we ended up like,
there's an opportunity to do so. Baylor had an opportunity
(04:17):
when Kim Monkey was there. They won I think three
national championships. Stanford you know, wanted a few years ago,
but that was carle Vanderveer's third championship. Now, if you
have Don Staley start to enter this rarefied air of
Pat Summit and Gino Oriama, obviously I think that's good
for the game, and I think that as it expands,
it's actually going to be more difficult for South Carolina.
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But in the moment, I think so many of us
were hoping that Iowa could get it done. I just
wonder in the long run, if maybe this actually is
gonna work out for South Carolina and work out for
women's basketball, that they were the ones to cut down
the net.
Speaker 9 (04:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
I think you make an excellent point, actually, because yes,
I was rooting for Iowa. That's who I wanted to win.
I did penelasny Betts or anything like that, but I
was rooting for Iowa. But seeing South Carolina complete the
season that they completed also great, And I agree that
I think in the long scheme of things, this is
the beginning of the bigger conversation beyond Caitlin Clark. And
(05:12):
that's what's really cool about it, because what South Carolina
did is incredible, and they fell short last year to
Caitlin Clark and Iowa. Like as, it may not be
a fairy tale ending, but it's definitely a damn good ending.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
There's a lot that came with it, with this whole
Caitlyn Clark story. And now the NBA Draft, by the way,
is a week from today. So you take that momentum
that you have from the women's tournament. You have heard
getting picked first overall, and a bunch of names that
we became familiar with within this tournament, we'll hear their
names called as well next week, and then the WNBA
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season starts, you know, in mid to late May, so
you've got that momentum that they will carry over. Here's
my lasting on all of this, and it goes back
to a saying that we see a lot on social media. Manzi,
this is why we can't have nice things. You guys
ever seen this? This is why we can't have nice things.
(06:15):
And I feel that's the situation in women's basketball, and
it's really with the gatekeepers of women's basketball. And I
saw people on Twitter, some people saying this, throwing stuff
out there, but it was more of the previous leaders
in college basketball, the previous stars in college basketball, who
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for some reason wanted to take their angst or let
their feelings known. That not that they disliked Caitlin Clark,
but hey, guess what, she's not the goat. She's not
the goat. You're gonna have trouble at the next level.
It's gonna be a different sort of ball game there.
All of these things are popping up. Well, hey, yeah,
(06:58):
you gotta win the title. You're considered the greatest all time. Sorry,
you have to win a title. These are all things
that we heard over the last I don't know week
or so when we're talking about Caitlyn Clark, and I
just have a really big problem with it because it
is with the top voices in women's basketball, some of
who have laid the groundwork over the last decade or
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so in wanting women's basketball to reach a level it
never had before. I was always under the impression, Manzi,
that we were supposed to grow the game, grow women's basketball.
Let's bring it to as many eyes. Why aren't you
watching women's basketball. It's a better product.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Than the men.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
You should be watching women's basketball. And then on a
day where when we're obsessed with space, this Haley's comet
comes through and it's Caitlin Clark and lifts absolutely everything
to levels that we have never seen before in the
women's game, not even close rivaling the matchups that we've
seen in the men's tournament in previous years. Never had
(08:00):
a higher rated basketball game than the one had Friday night,
that's men's basketball, or women's basketball, or pro basketball, than
the one where Caitlin Clark and Iowa top Yukon. But
yet we want to tear her down. We want to
take her down and say, you know, she's got to
do this, she's got to do that, you got you
gotta cut down the nets to be great. The fact
(08:21):
that these people are taking down the person who took
their sport to the only place that they wanted it
to go and still can't be happy with it. I've
got a problem with that to all of a sudden
throw criteria. It's so annoying on social media for me
Manzi to see the goat argument. You want to know why,
because it's thrown out there like Halloween candy. He's the goat. No,
(08:41):
here's the goat. He's the goat. He's the goat. There
shouldn't be that big of a discussion on who the
goat is. But now, not only are we not allowing
Caitlin Clark to be included in the discussion, we're putting
up criteria in saying, well, she's got to win a
championship when we are just handing them out like free
tickets to a content that's all that it is, goat goat.
(09:02):
But when it comes to Kitlyn Clark, uh, sorry, honey,
gotta win a championship, Gotta cut down the nets, it's
just the rules. No, it's not the rules. Those are
the rules that you made because you didn't want to
see her succeed or you had a problem with the
success that she was having. That's my message and my
lasting effect is the ones that wanted us to pay
attention to the sport and grow the game so much
(09:24):
couldn't handle it when someone else finally took it to
a level that it needed to be.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
At, Well, don't let that be the lasting impression, because
jealousy is a very big and powerful emotion that is
very natural. I don't blame Diana Tarassi from maybe because
I think this is jealousy, and it's not that they
hate her. In fact, they do appreciate what she's done.
(09:50):
But this Caitlin Clark sensation went from zero to a million,
and people weren't expecting it. Maybe weren't ready for it
for somebody so young out of Iowa to take over
the sport. Nobody was expecting that. It wasn't like the
(10:10):
built up came over the last couple of years and
you were waiting for the next big star. She came
kind of out of nowhere and completely changed the topic
of conversation when it came to college basketball. You could
argue the last two years, but definitely this year. And
it's hard for these gatekeepers, these ladies that have been
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in this game for so long, because they have tried
for years and years and years to push this. They
literally leave their home the US to go play in
another country because they're not getting paid enough. They're probably
been told that they aren't good enough to play and
that's why they're not getting paid. Then all of a sudden,
this girl in college has made more money, has gotten
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more attention, has gone more love along with Hay, I'm
sure of it than they ever got in twenty years.
Like I think it's just a natural form of jealousy
that they are experienced experiencing right now in this moment.
But deep down they're very happy and they're looking forward
to it. And yes, probably again I said this to
you a couple of days ago. Yes, maybe they want
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her to fall on her face and break her nose
for like a hot second, but they want to play her,
They want to see her on the court. They want
this to continue. They want to, you know, experience this attention,
and they want to benefit from it. They do want that.
It's just in the moment, jealousy may have taken over.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
You know, you call it jealousy. I call it them
being haters and and and that's and that's what it was.
That's what it was over the weekend, It's what it was.
I love the simulcast on Friday that had three formulat
Yukon players doing the alternate broadcast on ESPN, and then
the color commentator on ESPN was also a former Yukon player,
(11:53):
All American and Rebecca Lobo. Like, I get they're the
biggest names, but it also tells you on what a
road it was for Kate Clark because college basketball ball
was basically just Yukon. She wanted to go to Yukon.
They didn't want her, you know, like that was the
point she grew up idolizing those people. So guess what
she does. She stays home. Parents wanted her to go
(12:14):
to Notre Dame. She goes to Iowa. Iowa's Lisa Blueter
had even said to her, like, you're the piece that's
gonna put us over to take us to final fours.
And what do you know, mission accomplished back to back
final fours a national championship game yesterday, National Championship game
last year, like those are the things that she was
(12:34):
able to accomplish. The reason I say it's a hater
and not a jellousy thing is if we are handing
out goat titles like Halloween candy, there is no denying
what Caitlin Clark has done. It's the fact that they
couldn't let that go. They couldn't just we name goats
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all the time in a variety of different sports. I
know the ultimate one is for us is who's the goat?
Lebron or Jordan? But go to Twitter and just search goat.
You're gonna see five different NBA players be mentioned. And
here we have a woman who has taken the game
to a point that we had never seen before. And
I actually think that that is an underrated part about it.
(13:17):
I know you and I were hanging out yesterday Sunday
here on Fox Sports Radio. I said that Caitlin Clark
is actually underrated for everything that she's had to deal
with and actually has come through. And you're right, it
has been two years. I know Iowa fans have been
keen to Caitlin Clark for a while, but it was
last year's run and then what happened with LSU prior
(13:37):
to that knocking off South Carolina, and then what's happened
over the last twelve months. All of that is stuff
that none of these other players have had to deal with.
And if you were a star player in college basketball,
more than likely you had about three or four other
McDonald's all Americans around you, because that's what Yukon was.
So these girls who are criticizing Caitlyn Clark for all
of this never had to walk into her shoes. You
(13:58):
take Caitlyn Clark off of that IOWA team, what are
they a ten seed in the women's tournament like that?
At best? Maybe yeah, at best. And so it's just
the fact of everybody else was getting wrapped up into it,
and you say it's jealousy. I think it's being a
hater for them to not even be able to give
(14:18):
the flowers that she deserves. I just found it ridiculous.
I even everybody loved Don Staley's comment afterwards. Do we
have Don Staley after the game of her taking time
out to congratulate Iowa on Kayln Clark. This is what
South Carolina said, coach had to say after the win yesterday,
And I.
Speaker 7 (14:36):
Want to personally thank Kaylyn Clark for lifting.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Up our sport.
Speaker 7 (14:42):
She carried a heavy low for our sport and it
just is not gonna stop here on.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
A collegiate tour.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
But when she is the number one pick.
Speaker 7 (14:52):
In a WNBA draft, she's gonna lift that league.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Up as well.
Speaker 7 (14:56):
So Kaylyn Clark, if you're out there, you are one
of the goats of our games that we appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Why couldn't everybody else do that?
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Percent? And I feel like she maybe she was always
going to say something great about Caitlyn, right, but I
think she went even further because of the comments she
was hearing. The whole comment of like, you're gonna take
this to the next level. That was to I think
Diana Tarassi that you are one of the goats. That's
to everybody else. I felt that she went deeper into
(15:30):
her whatever she was gonna say about Kaitlyn Clark because
of everything she was hearing from these women. But it's again,
I really do think it's it stems from jealousy. I'm
not saying that they're not hating. They are, but I
think it stems from an organic place of jealousy that
maybe they cannot control. Diana Tarassi, Uh, superb. They didn't
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live in this time when social they can literally see
for themselves how much love and again hate and attention.
She's getting up close and personal something they have no
idea in their twenty years in this world. They have
no idea. They haven't even gotten a glimpse of it.
And here is this young girl from Iowa just.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Getting it off, launching from thirty seven feet from the future.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
That's the expression, launching from.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
The future, captivating America and everybody that was along for
the ride. I also I understand the point of let's say,
if you're we're using Diana Tarassi's name a lot, so
I'll just use her again.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
She's great.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
She's because she's wonderful.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Brianna Stewart, who a lot of people say is the
greatest women's basketball player that does ever played. That was
Jay Williams argument as well. Someone asked her on a
Final four radio show of do you think that Caitlyn
Clark needs to win a championship to be considered the goat?
She goes, yeah, I think so, Why can't you just say?
That's not for me to answer, but she's one of
(16:52):
the greatest that we've seen of all time. I mean,
don Staley is one of the most accomplished women in
women's basketball history for everything that she's a puished as
a collegiate player, as a professional player, Olympic player, a
collegiate head coach, and she found the wherewithal to do so.
Instead these other people are putting in criteria. And it's
not just some of these women. There's also the JOHNN.
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Kimalaitleys who have just followed college basketball and want to
find somebody to hate. Guess what, We've now developed a
criteria on who the actual goat is and women's basketball.
Yet half of these people on social media couldn't name
a women's basketball player off of the five fingers of
my hand right now as of say last week. It's absurd.
It's a hater culture. It's much more than jealousy, and
(17:36):
it's absolutely ridiculous. And I just this game. Eighteen million
people watched that game yesterday.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Yeah, listen, it sucks. It really does suck that it
does leave a bad taste in your mouth. But this
is don't let this continue and take it on to
the next part of this story, because this is only
one book and we're about to have a bunch of
different books when it comes to the WNBA and Kaitlin
Clark and what's about to happen. So even though you
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have a bad taste in your mouth, don't let it
linger too long because it's gonna get fun. And I
agree with you, because, yeah, even even Sabrina Unescu, who
had a little bit of a you know, a little
bit of traction, a little bit of attention, definitely fell
flat once she got to the w NBA, Like it
just you weren't paying attention as much.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Sure, and her unfortunately her final well they made it
to the final four in twenty nineteen, but her year
that they thought they were gonna win it web dougcause
of COVID, Right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Exactly, and so that probably was a factor. But she
kind of just fell flat, not on purpose maybe, like
you just mentioned COVID. But I don't think this is
what's gonna happen with Kaitlin Clark. This is just the beginning.
And uh, I'm pretty sure Brianna Stewart after she said that,
I mean, listen, she wants to Yukon. She went to Yukon.
She had to say that.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Damn else they had to protect.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Their they have to protect what they've done in order
to keep their name alive. But she, you know, congratulated
Kaitlyn Clark literally uncharted territory and excited to see her
continue in the w I mean, I guess she means WNBA,
but she then tweeted that after the game. So it's
just a little bit of hater a lot of jealousy
coming from a place where maybe they don't want to
(19:12):
feel like this, but it just is happening.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
If you're Diana Tarassi and someone is doing the exact
same thing that you did in the game five years ago,
or Brianna Stewart for that matter, and they're getting the
same pub that you never got, I get it. I'd
be ticked. No one was doing what Caitlin Clark was.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
They're not wrong, no one.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
You're not wrong, absolutely no one. And there are players
that move on the court like Kitlyn Clark to very
few of them that do. But no one is pulling
up from thirty seven feet nobody is. They're not the
way that she passes the ball. It just it was
something that was organic and grabbed the game and that's
what was so awesome about it and took us on
this ride for two years and to have the ones
who always wanted basketball to be at this level women's
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basketball to try to shoot it down and diminish what
she did is absurd.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
I agree with what you said that nobody has done
what Caitlyn has do done. But what if, like in
Diana Rossi said, I know, we keep using her again.
She's great, she's wonderful. Uh it's this isn't a bad
thing that we are comparing you or bringing you into
the conversation because of your comments. But what if she
just feels like I would have done the same thing,
if they would have levet me, but I was held back.
I was told I had to play like this and
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this is what I had to do in order to
get to the next level. It's just such a different
time period, and I really they're just like, man, I
can't believe that I that this girl does everything I
was told I couldn't do.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
And I'm going to answer that because Diana Tarassi is
one of the top, if not the top recruit. When
she was coming out of high school from California, she
chose to go to Yukon right Why because Yukon goes
and wins national championships and you could play with other
five or six McDonald's all Americans, And that's true.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
That's why that is a big reason why I think
Kitlin Clark is one hundred percent in the goat conversation
because she didn't go to a powerhouse and she led
Iowa to two straight finals and let's go. And also
their bench, I'm sorry iowas hahm.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
How many of.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Their bench play is actually played last night? Two? Three, maybe?
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Yeah, they didn't get a lot of contributions from no,
like it's the bench on on South Carolina, so they
were endless four and five stars.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Was Tessa Johnson, the freshman on Fire on Fire, the.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Bench contributed the same amount of points that this show
contributed yesterday, zero yes, and and the bench, by the way,
the only person who actually come in and get like
real minutes was one other person. So like they're starting five,
but they had a rotation of set. I know one
of their other players was hurt, but I mean they there.
(21:35):
It was the Caitlin Clark Show.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
It was most of starting five played forty minutes.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Right and two players didn't come out of the game right.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
On forty eight.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Less than players didn't come out of the game. They
again not a stacked team like other teams, but she
again it was not a powerhouse, and she literally led
them to two back to back finals.
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Can't do it without the guys. By the way, Cavino
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He'll be again tomorrow morning for Dan and the Dan Nets.
Nick Cops got an update for us in about seven
minutes or so. Iowa Sam's our technical producer, and of
(22:31):
course this show can't happen without our executive producer, Jason Stewart,
who's the eyes and ears of all of this. And
you just witnessed something Jason about today's Cavino and rich
show that apparently I don't know if it's struck a nerve,
but it grabbed your attention.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
And we got a lot of reaction to it on
social media and the message boards over in the break
What is this? This needs to this needs an explanation, Matt.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
There we got.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
That's actually pretty good.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
I think so that is a goat, that's.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
I think that's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Sheep, the sheep.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
That there's a little sheep or lamb in there. Yeah,
but I think they're all in the same general family.
That can be wrong. I'm not gonna knock her. I mean,
she's she's played, you know, the role of caring mother
in an all the commercial. She's what other what other
challenging roles.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Another mother somewhere else with two twins babies. I've been
a teacher.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
The Michael Winslow of Fox Sports Radio. Apparently it's not
too bad.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
I think it's pretty good. I mean I was. I
didn't even plan for that. I just came out organic.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Good job.
Speaker 8 (23:48):
Sheep are more with a B and goats are more
like with an M. It's like a mat with a goat.
But yeah, yeah, see that's more of an M sound
with the goat.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
I'll take what the doctors.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Sure, okay, doctor, okay.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Doctor, cope, we are talking about elbows. I don't think
sheep or goats have elbows.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
It's just legs, just legs, just once sort of leg.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Major League Baseball. What a weekend? Yeah, Shane Bieber done
for the year, Spencer Strider, Yeah, opportunity is gonna.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
It's a good thing. We're halfway through the season.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Oh wait, who do you blame for these elbow injuries
in Major League Baseball?
Speaker 10 (24:27):
If?
Speaker 3 (24:27):
I don't think it's one thing, to be honest with you,
I think there are several factors. But I do think
that analytics and science and us coddling the arm the
last couple of years, trying to protect it has actually
made things worse. I don't think we are actually protecting
the arm. We're not letting fellas develop at a younger
(24:51):
age to build up that muscle, that endurance that you know, Yeah,
let me see how many pitches I can do until
my arm falls off. I don't know. Maybe I'm just
old school, but I we're just not letting that happen anymore.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
This isn't a cop out, but I think what has
happened is there have been a series of changes throughout
Major League Baseball, and we're gonna actually hear some audio
from two very good pitchers in Major League Baseball, once
Justin Verlander and another's Tyler Glasnow on issues that they
have felt. I think that there's been one thing and
then there's another, and there's another, and there's another. But
if I ultimately had to say something, it is the
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start of Masters Week. And one of the big issues
in golf over the last couple of years has been
what do you do with the golf ball or the
golf clubs, because pretty soon certain courses are going to
be obsolete because the science is just outracing every That's
the argument of some and I actually feel that's the
way in Major League Baseball as well. Things have changed
in all those little things that add up, and now
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it becomes a completely different game than maybe we had
twenty or thirty years ago. And now one of the ramifications,
and maybe one of the unintended consequences, are these rash
of elbow injuries not just happening to one or two pitchers,
happening to multiple pictures over the last few years, and
young pick pictures as well. And so I don't want
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to be a cop out and say it's a variety
of different things as well. Because I do think that science.
He's on the forefront of all of it.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
But it is a couple of different things. That's what
sucks about it. And maybe that's why we're seeing them
happen so early in the season right now, because it
is several factors that are just kind of making things
spiral out of control in a way.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
You know, Yeah, and no, I get it. Justin Verlander
weighed in on this and this topic. When was this
doctor Cope, doctor Nick Cop? When did Verlander again just
legally not a doctor just for the show, Just think doctor.
Speaker 8 (26:37):
J was a real I might be wearing a white
coat and a stethoscope, but not a doctor.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Dave Roberts is called doc just because his initials are dr.
So listening, you're fine, Okay, there you go, Doc.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Is that better?
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Doc?
Speaker 8 (26:49):
I'll take it? Yes, thank you. I feel better now,
there you go. Yes, this was Verlander had his take.
This was yesterday. Here you guys go.
Speaker 10 (26:57):
You know, everybody's throwing as hard as they possibly can
and spinning the ball as hard as they possibly can,
and you know it's hard to deny those results. Obviously,
it's a double edged sword. How can you tell somebody
to go out there and not do that when they're
capable of throwing a hundred. When the balls started to
change back in twenty sixteen and they started flying out
a bit more frequently, I know myself personally, that started
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changing how I had to approach pitching. You have to
start approaching the batter as I want swing and miss
I can't have him put the ball in play.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
So there's Vera Lander and you're talking about arguably the
greatest pitcher of this generation, truly like you are, and
he had to change his the way that he pitches
about eight years ago because of what is going on.
That's a really big freaking deal, Like it really really
is for someone like that to be like, all right now,
(27:46):
this is what I got to do differently. And it's
not only him, this is Tyler glassnow, but it was
Tyler Glassno. Three years ago when we started to deal
with the sticky stuff on gloves and we're checking gloves
and stuff like that. This is what he was a
member of the Tampa Bay Ray talking about the issues
and specifically one of the issues that he had with
not being able to use some of the sticky stuff
in baseball.
Speaker 9 (28:07):
I went cold turkey, nothing and before that start, I
remember when all this stuff came out, I was talking
to people and talking to doctors, and they were like,
the thing that maybe MLB doesn't realize or that players
don't realize, is like what is the injury, Like what
is the prevention of Like maybe it'll add to injuries.
And in my mind, I was like, that sounds dumb.
That sounds like an excuse a player would use to
make sure he can use sticky stuff. But I threw
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to the Nationals with nothing. I've never been I don't
use sticky stuff to I don't use spider tack. I
don't need more spin. I have huge hands. I spin
the ball fine, I want grip. I did well against
the Nationals, probably one of the best starts I had
all year. I woke up the next day and was like,
I am sore in places that I didn't even know
I had muscles in Like I felt completely different. I
switched my fastball grip and my curveball grip. I've thrown
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it the same way for however many years I've played baseball.
I had to change. I had to put my fastball
deeper into my hand and grip it way harder and
I had to instead of holding my curveball at the
tip of my fingers, I had to dig it deeper
into my hand. So I'm choking about all my pitches.
Mike cue I used to use with Snyder was hold
the ball like an egg, like nice and loose bee loose.
That's out of the window.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
I think that's very telling, and that's only one part
of the equation. Mont Like he's just literally talking about
when they said, hey, you can't have the sticky stuff anymore,
look at the immediate changes that he had to go
along with Verlander. That's part of the little things that
add up with never thinking about the health of actually
one of your biggest commodities in your entire sport.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
So we've got the ball changing, like Verlander says, We've
got the sticky stuff being banned, and then now we
have the pitch clock, which the Players Association has been
pretty much against from the beginning, even though the league
says that there is no exact proof that this is
the reason the injuries are happened. I think the league
even said that last year in the minor leagues the
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injuries were down with the pitch clock. But I think
the pitchclock can be a factor for some guys, especially
some of the older guys. And this has been already
for a year now. Since the beginning, a lot of
players have not like the pitch clock. You're speeding me up,
and like It's a tough one though, because I like
the pitch clock in the sense of the perspective of
(30:11):
the fan. It is speeding up the game. It is
making it more fun and more exciting. But I also
understand if you've been doing something for years and you
kind of have a routine, and even baseball is a
team sport, but it's not. You're really on your own
when you're pitching. And if that is your routine and
all of a sudden you're told like, okay, you can't
do that anymore. You got to do it like this,
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that has to also be a factor.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Jason Stewart's our executive producer.
Speaker 6 (30:37):
I think that Jeff Passen, he wrote a book I
think called The Arm and I read the piece today
by Tom Verducci, and I think, to add on to
everything you guys just discussed, it's something that is starting
at the youth level. So it's been a decade or
two in the making and to think that that is
(30:57):
the root. Cause it's kind of scary because what do
we do now We reverse everything on the youth level,
and then it'll start matriculating in five or ten years.
It's like, I don't know what the solution is. And
I think that's what Passing said today in his piece.
It was like, the solution is something that's going to
be long term, and we need to do it yesterday.
But for all these reasons, it's just so sad that
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fans are going to be without their top pitchers. I mean,
Special Striyer was just such an amazing guy to watch
for everybody.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
It's just sad. It just stinks.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
The ramifications I think are going to be even bigger
because you talk about like making a change. Look at
all of the steps that I've already been made to
get us to this point. So if you're going to
make a change, all of those steps are likely going
to have to somehow be a rased or I think
you just go further down the line. I don't know
how you turn it around. Maybe maybe doctor nik Kope
(31:50):
is got well.
Speaker 8 (31:51):
I was gonna say, I would love to include some
comments from an actual doctor. Maybe the most famous orthopedic
surgeon one doctor James Andrews, who recently retired but as
article which in fact is on MLB dot com from January,
talks about the injury rate that he's done Tommy John's
in his career and.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
He said it's totally flipped.
Speaker 8 (32:14):
Twenty plus years ago, most of them used to be
in the major leagues, and then as you funnel down
through the miners, college youth, it got less and less,
but it's totally flipped.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
He says.
Speaker 8 (32:25):
The largest number that he's done is youth baseball. They
have surpassed what's being done in the major leagues. And
he said that you've got kids throwing ninety miles an
hour in their junior of high school, but they've learned
in their research at baseball is a development. The Tommy
John ligament matures at about age twenty six and in
high school the redline where the forces go beyond the
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tensil properties of the ligament is.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
About eighty miles an hour.
Speaker 8 (32:52):
So you're having kids that are eighteen and younger well
exceeding that and that's contributing to this wholeheartedly.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
This has been decades in the making, and.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Doctor James Andrews once paid for my cab on the
way from the airport to the downtown Indie hotel. So
I'm taking whatever he says as gold.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Is this real?
Speaker 2 (33:11):
That is a true story. In fact, I've got his
email in my phone still.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Yeah.
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It's Covino and Rich here on Fox Sports Radio. I
thought someone said Linger earlier. Is that why? Iowa Sam
that they did say Linger?
Speaker 3 (33:37):
I said, don't let the bad taste in your mouth? Linger.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
That's what was that where it came from? Yes, I
figured it was. She's Monte Belaios. I'm Dan Byer in
for Covino and Rich IOA. Sam's here, Jason Stewart's here.
So is Nick Cope, doctor, doctor Nick Cope. I was
a huge Cranberries fan back in the day.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
Yeah, yes, all right, Dolores o'raderton.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Yes, well we had to bring it down.
Speaker 5 (34:01):
Sorry, she's gone.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
She's great. I know, I know, you see this is
the thing. Sam's a topper like you know, these people,
you know, they just can't help themselves. Like I did
a joke about a week ago right on the air.
You remember this, Jason Stewart, Oh, I do? And then
Sam broke it down how it technically wasn't like one
hundred percent accurate. I do that, but it was funny,
(34:23):
but it was. It was a funny joke. But he
broke it down.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
So you don't have to let it linger, Dan, I don't,
but I did.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
But here's a great example, Audi Audi. What's her name?
Speaker 5 (34:36):
Audie Crooks from Iowa State?
Speaker 6 (34:38):
The basketball part? Audi Audi Crooks? Yeah, Audi Crooks. I'm like,
you know, her sister's BMW and Mercedes. I said that
out loud, and Sam says, and her other sister a Lexus.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
Now he tries, this is actually a name. He tried
to top it, but it was wrong. It was wrong.
Speaker 6 (34:55):
I was going for German engineered luxury car and he
goes with a Japanese product.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
I think it's also considered luxury.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Is it? Is it a need to be involved, Sam?
Or is it the need to top?
Speaker 5 (35:07):
I just love Riffin Man. Just get used to it.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
I just know. I just I'm curious.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
Toppers are great toppers pizza, right, here's excellent, big fan.
There's a budget, different toppers, hopping and shopping, that's my name.
We're going to get to this, John Kyla Pari audio
at the top.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Quiet.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
No one jokes from me. There's too many toppings on
the pizza already have that.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
We all have that person in our lives that is
always the topper, And then you wonder it's like, are
they the topper? Do they just like I want to
be included in all of it, and I don't think
because Sam is always included. So that's why I think
he's more of the topper.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
I just think.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
I don't know if people know that Dolores or Read
passed away like five years ago.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
I know, but the people that do know care about
the Cranberry so they knew. The people that don't care
about the Cranberries probably didn't know, so they didn't need
to know at that point. Well, yeah, and so I
just listening. You just got to paint the entire portrait
for the listener. You know what, Sam, there's no need
to argue. We will move on, no need to argue.
(36:10):
Was a Cranberry's album. That's how you know my fandom.
Thank you very much.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
You topped that one.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
Nice.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Thank you very much, well done, well done.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Hit him up at Iowa Sam ninety nine, who did
appreciate our backing of Caitlin Clark, who tweeted out within
the past hour when the TV numbers came out eighteen
point seven with a fire emoji afterwards.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
I mean, that's a lot. That's a lot. I'm not surprised,
and she's.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
The reason for it. Yeah, which, by the way, I
actually love seeing that because I don't feel that it's
egotistical because it's a game that they lost, right, you know,
like like she probably just had the most crushing loss
of her career and she's willing to tweet out what
it meant for the game of women's basketball.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Yeah. Loss, I didn't even think of that. You're right, No,
but it's gonna sting. But she's she's got more left
in her to do so, but it's gonna sting for
a bit.
Speaker 5 (37:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
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Speaker 2 (00:40):
Way to hit the post.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Nancy Belong, You don't even know what that means, but
I'm glad I did it.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
It's a total shell because Iowa Sam is here. Hello,
Iowa Sam.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Hello.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Wiping up those tears from yesterday where their tears are
long dried, they are tiers of sadness, tiers of gratitude.
After that, Iowa loss to Self.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
Care Carolina, mostly gratitude, the second place mostly got. I
got a little teary listening to head coach Lisa Bluter
after the.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
AH yes, but tugging at the heart strings. Jason Stewart
is our executive producer hanging out today. Hello, Hello, Hello.
Speaker 6 (01:14):
I think Lisa blued sounds like some kind of a
digestive issue.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
I had a Lisa Bluter or a great frat name,
you know, blooter. It sounds like something an animal house
like Jason's.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I like that. Nick Cope is here, Doctor Nick Cope.
What's going on?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Doctor doctor?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Well you're talking medicine, why not?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
You have been hi.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
We have got a lot to talk to and we
may need Nick's, uh doctor expertise talking about the fragile
arms in Major League Baseball.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Not a doctor for the record, I just want to
put that out.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
There, Doctor Phil went on, Doctor Cope. Actually, it sounds
really good. Who's hey, you know who's your GP doctor?
Speaker 7 (02:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Would you meet him?
Speaker 4 (02:02):
You know the surgeon general back in the day, doctor c. Everett.
Speaker 8 (02:06):
Although he pronounced it coupe, he pronounced it incorrectly, but
same spelling.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
So we've shed some tears, we will dive into some elbows.
Your takeaway, Manci. Now that the women's tournament is over,
South Carolina completes their unbeaten season getting revenge on Iowa.
Now that it's all done, it's in the books. You
heard Nick talk about the viewership as a whole. How
(02:35):
do you look back at what we witnessed, maybe not
only yesterday, but over the last couple of weeks, last
couple of months, last couple of years.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yeah, you know, after this season, really really proud of
what the ladies have done in the college basketball world
because this time last year, I was paying attention also
to Caitlin Clark. I was watching, you know, her play
against LSU and Angel. But this year it doubled, if
(03:02):
not tripled, my interest in other players like it really
like I am genuinely looking forward to some of the
storylines going into the WNBA, and so I'm super happy.
I'm looking forward to it. And there is little things
that I wish didn't happen, but in the grand scheme
of it, really awesome, really awesome couple of months and weeks.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Really, I think that it would have been a great
fairy tale story book ending if Iowa and Caitlin Clark
cut down the nets.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Yes, yes, However.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
However, with South Carolina completing what they did, and I
think that South Carolina has that opportunity. This is a
third national championship under down stay, you've just completed in
an unbeaten season. Look, Caitlin Clark's gone, she is no
longer there. I would I'd be curious within five years
(03:56):
from now, if say South Carolina goes on a run
and this increased attention that we have on women's college basketball,
if that maybe we look back at it and say,
all right, that was a part of it as well,
Because now South Carolina is in the same breath as
the Yukon's or the Tennesseees that we ended up like,
there's an opportunity to do so. Baylor had an opportunity
(04:17):
when Kim Monkey was there. They won I think three
national championships. Stanford you know, wanted a few years ago,
but that was carle Vanderveer's third championship. Now, if you
have Don Staley start to enter this rarefied air of
Pat Summit and Gino Oriama, obviously I think that's good
for the game, and I think that as it expands,
it's actually going to be more difficult for South Carolina.
(04:39):
But in the moment, I think so many of us
were hoping that Iowa could get it done. I just
wonder in the long run, if maybe this actually is
gonna work out for South Carolina and work out for
women's basketball, that they were the ones to cut down
the net.
Speaker 9 (04:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
I think you make an excellent point, actually, because yes,
I was rooting for Iowa. That's who I wanted to win.
I did penelasny Betts or anything like that, but I
was rooting for Iowa. But seeing South Carolina complete the
season that they completed also great, And I agree that
I think in the long scheme of things, this is
the beginning of the bigger conversation beyond Caitlin Clark. And
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that's what's really cool about it, because what South Carolina
did is incredible, and they fell short last year to
Caitlin Clark and Iowa. Like as, it may not be
a fairy tale ending, but it's definitely a damn good ending.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
There's a lot that came with it, with this whole
Caitlyn Clark story. And now the NBA Draft, by the way,
is a week from today. So you take that momentum
that you have from the women's tournament. You have heard
getting picked first overall, and a bunch of names that
we became familiar with within this tournament, we'll hear their
names called as well next week, and then the WNBA
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season starts, you know, in mid to late May, so
you've got that momentum that they will carry over. Here's
my lasting on all of this, and it goes back
to a saying that we see a lot on social media. Manzi,
this is why we can't have nice things. You guys
ever seen this? This is why we can't have nice things.
(06:15):
And I feel that's the situation in women's basketball, and
it's really with the gatekeepers of women's basketball. And I
saw people on Twitter, some people saying this, throwing stuff
out there, but it was more of the previous leaders
in college basketball, the previous stars in college basketball, who
(06:37):
for some reason wanted to take their angst or let
their feelings known. That not that they disliked Caitlin Clark,
but hey, guess what, she's not the goat. She's not
the goat. You're gonna have trouble at the next level.
It's gonna be a different sort of ball game there.
All of these things are popping up. Well, hey, yeah,
(06:58):
you gotta win the title. You're considered the greatest all time. Sorry,
you have to win a title. These are all things
that we heard over the last I don't know week
or so when we're talking about Caitlyn Clark, and I
just have a really big problem with it because it
is with the top voices in women's basketball, some of
who have laid the groundwork over the last decade or
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so in wanting women's basketball to reach a level it
never had before. I was always under the impression, Manzi,
that we were supposed to grow the game, grow women's basketball.
Let's bring it to as many eyes. Why aren't you
watching women's basketball. It's a better product.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Than the men.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
You should be watching women's basketball. And then on a
day where when we're obsessed with space, this Haley's comet
comes through and it's Caitlin Clark and lifts absolutely everything
to levels that we have never seen before in the
women's game, not even close rivaling the matchups that we've
seen in the men's tournament in previous years. Never had
(08:00):
a higher rated basketball game than the one had Friday night,
that's men's basketball, or women's basketball, or pro basketball, than
the one where Caitlin Clark and Iowa top Yukon. But
yet we want to tear her down. We want to
take her down and say, you know, she's got to
do this, she's got to do that, you got you
gotta cut down the nets to be great. The fact
(08:21):
that these people are taking down the person who took
their sport to the only place that they wanted it
to go and still can't be happy with it. I've
got a problem with that to all of a sudden
throw criteria. It's so annoying on social media for me
Manzi to see the goat argument. You want to know why,
because it's thrown out there like Halloween candy. He's the goat. No,
(08:41):
here's the goat. He's the goat. He's the goat. There
shouldn't be that big of a discussion on who the
goat is. But now, not only are we not allowing
Caitlin Clark to be included in the discussion, we're putting
up criteria in saying, well, she's got to win a
championship when we are just handing them out like free
tickets to a content that's all that it is, goat goat.
(09:02):
But when it comes to Kitlyn Clark, uh, sorry, honey,
gotta win a championship, Gotta cut down the nets, it's
just the rules. No, it's not the rules. Those are
the rules that you made because you didn't want to
see her succeed or you had a problem with the
success that she was having. That's my message and my
lasting effect is the ones that wanted us to pay
attention to the sport and grow the game so much
(09:24):
couldn't handle it when someone else finally took it to
a level that it needed to be.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
At, Well, don't let that be the lasting impression, because
jealousy is a very big and powerful emotion that is
very natural. I don't blame Diana Tarassi from maybe because
I think this is jealousy, and it's not that they
hate her. In fact, they do appreciate what she's done.
(09:50):
But this Caitlin Clark sensation went from zero to a million,
and people weren't expecting it. Maybe weren't ready for it
for somebody so young out of Iowa to take over
the sport. Nobody was expecting that. It wasn't like the
(10:10):
built up came over the last couple of years and
you were waiting for the next big star. She came
kind of out of nowhere and completely changed the topic
of conversation when it came to college basketball. You could
argue the last two years, but definitely this year. And
it's hard for these gatekeepers, these ladies that have been
(10:33):
in this game for so long, because they have tried
for years and years and years to push this. They
literally leave their home the US to go play in
another country because they're not getting paid enough. They're probably
been told that they aren't good enough to play and
that's why they're not getting paid. Then all of a sudden,
this girl in college has made more money, has gotten
(10:53):
more attention, has gone more love along with Hay, I'm
sure of it than they ever got in twenty years.
Like I think it's just a natural form of jealousy
that they are experienced experiencing right now in this moment.
But deep down they're very happy and they're looking forward
to it. And yes, probably again I said this to
you a couple of days ago. Yes, maybe they want
(11:15):
her to fall on her face and break her nose
for like a hot second, but they want to play her,
They want to see her on the court. They want
this to continue. They want to, you know, experience this attention,
and they want to benefit from it. They do want that.
It's just in the moment, jealousy may have taken over.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
You know, you call it jealousy. I call it them
being haters and and and that's and that's what it was.
That's what it was over the weekend, It's what it was.
I love the simulcast on Friday that had three formulat
Yukon players doing the alternate broadcast on ESPN, and then
the color commentator on ESPN was also a former Yukon player,
(11:53):
All American and Rebecca Lobo. Like, I get they're the
biggest names, but it also tells you on what a
road it was for Kate Clark because college basketball ball
was basically just Yukon. She wanted to go to Yukon.
They didn't want her, you know, like that was the
point she grew up idolizing those people. So guess what
she does. She stays home. Parents wanted her to go
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to Notre Dame. She goes to Iowa. Iowa's Lisa Blueter
had even said to her, like, you're the piece that's
gonna put us over to take us to final fours.
And what do you know, mission accomplished back to back
final fours a national championship game yesterday, National Championship game
last year, like those are the things that she was
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able to accomplish. The reason I say it's a hater
and not a jellousy thing is if we are handing
out goat titles like Halloween candy, there is no denying
what Caitlin Clark has done. It's the fact that they
couldn't let that go. They couldn't just we name goats
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all the time in a variety of different sports. I
know the ultimate one is for us is who's the goat?
Lebron or Jordan? But go to Twitter and just search goat.
You're gonna see five different NBA players be mentioned. And
here we have a woman who has taken the game
to a point that we had never seen before. And
I actually think that that is an underrated part about it.
(13:17):
I know you and I were hanging out yesterday Sunday
here on Fox Sports Radio. I said that Caitlin Clark
is actually underrated for everything that she's had to deal
with and actually has come through. And you're right, it
has been two years. I know Iowa fans have been
keen to Caitlin Clark for a while, but it was
last year's run and then what happened with LSU prior
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to that knocking off South Carolina, and then what's happened
over the last twelve months. All of that is stuff
that none of these other players have had to deal with.
And if you were a star player in college basketball,
more than likely you had about three or four other
McDonald's all Americans around you, because that's what Yukon was.
So these girls who are criticizing Caitlyn Clark for all
of this never had to walk into her shoes. You
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take Caitlyn Clark off of that IOWA team, what are
they a ten seed in the women's tournament like that?
At best? Maybe yeah, at best. And so it's just
the fact of everybody else was getting wrapped up into it,
and you say it's jealousy. I think it's being a
hater for them to not even be able to give
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the flowers that she deserves. I just found it ridiculous.
I even everybody loved Don Staley's comment afterwards. Do we
have Don Staley after the game of her taking time
out to congratulate Iowa on Kayln Clark. This is what
South Carolina said, coach had to say after the win yesterday,
And I.
Speaker 7 (14:36):
Want to personally thank Kaylyn Clark for lifting.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Up our sport.
Speaker 7 (14:42):
She carried a heavy low for our sport and it
just is not gonna stop here on.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
A collegiate tour.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
But when she is the number one pick.
Speaker 7 (14:52):
In a WNBA draft, she's gonna lift that league.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Up as well.
Speaker 7 (14:56):
So Kaylyn Clark, if you're out there, you are one
of the goats of our games that we appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Why couldn't everybody else do that?
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Percent? And I feel like she maybe she was always
going to say something great about Caitlyn, right, but I
think she went even further because of the comments she
was hearing. The whole comment of like, you're gonna take
this to the next level. That was to I think
Diana Tarassi that you are one of the goats. That's
to everybody else. I felt that she went deeper into
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her whatever she was gonna say about Kaitlyn Clark because
of everything she was hearing from these women. But it's again,
I really do think it's it stems from jealousy. I'm
not saying that they're not hating. They are, but I
think it stems from an organic place of jealousy that
maybe they cannot control. Diana Tarassi, Uh, superb. They didn't
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live in this time when social they can literally see
for themselves how much love and again hate and attention.
She's getting up close and personal something they have no
idea in their twenty years in this world. They have
no idea. They haven't even gotten a glimpse of it.
And here is this young girl from Iowa just.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Getting it off, launching from thirty seven feet from the future.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
That's the expression, launching from.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
The future, captivating America and everybody that was along for
the ride. I also I understand the point of let's say,
if you're we're using Diana Tarassi's name a lot, so
I'll just use her again.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
She's great.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
She's because she's wonderful.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Brianna Stewart, who a lot of people say is the
greatest women's basketball player that does ever played. That was
Jay Williams argument as well. Someone asked her on a
Final four radio show of do you think that Caitlyn
Clark needs to win a championship to be considered the goat?
She goes, yeah, I think so, Why can't you just say?
That's not for me to answer, but she's one of
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the greatest that we've seen of all time. I mean,
don Staley is one of the most accomplished women in
women's basketball history for everything that she's a puished as
a collegiate player, as a professional player, Olympic player, a
collegiate head coach, and she found the wherewithal to do so.
Instead these other people are putting in criteria. And it's
not just some of these women. There's also the JOHNN.
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Kimalaitleys who have just followed college basketball and want to
find somebody to hate. Guess what, We've now developed a
criteria on who the actual goat is and women's basketball.
Yet half of these people on social media couldn't name
a women's basketball player off of the five fingers of
my hand right now as of say last week. It's absurd.
It's a hater culture. It's much more than jealousy, and
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it's absolutely ridiculous. And I just this game. Eighteen million
people watched that game yesterday.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Yeah, listen, it sucks. It really does suck that it
does leave a bad taste in your mouth. But this
is don't let this continue and take it on to
the next part of this story, because this is only
one book and we're about to have a bunch of
different books when it comes to the WNBA and Kaitlin
Clark and what's about to happen. So even though you
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have a bad taste in your mouth, don't let it
linger too long because it's gonna get fun. And I
agree with you, because, yeah, even even Sabrina Unescu, who
had a little bit of a you know, a little
bit of traction, a little bit of attention, definitely fell
flat once she got to the w NBA, Like it
just you weren't paying attention as much.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Sure, and her unfortunately her final well they made it
to the final four in twenty nineteen, but her year
that they thought they were gonna win it web dougcause
of COVID, Right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Exactly, and so that probably was a factor. But she
kind of just fell flat, not on purpose maybe, like
you just mentioned COVID. But I don't think this is
what's gonna happen with Kaitlin Clark. This is just the beginning.
And uh, I'm pretty sure Brianna Stewart after she said that,
I mean, listen, she wants to Yukon. She went to Yukon.
She had to say that.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Damn else they had to protect.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Their they have to protect what they've done in order
to keep their name alive. But she, you know, congratulated
Kaitlyn Clark literally uncharted territory and excited to see her
continue in the w I mean, I guess she means WNBA,
but she then tweeted that after the game. So it's
just a little bit of hater a lot of jealousy
coming from a place where maybe they don't want to
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feel like this, but it just is happening.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
If you're Diana Tarassi and someone is doing the exact
same thing that you did in the game five years ago,
or Brianna Stewart for that matter, and they're getting the
same pub that you never got, I get it. I'd
be ticked. No one was doing what Caitlin Clark was.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
They're not wrong, no one.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
You're not wrong, absolutely no one. And there are players
that move on the court like Kitlyn Clark to very
few of them that do. But no one is pulling
up from thirty seven feet nobody is. They're not the
way that she passes the ball. It just it was
something that was organic and grabbed the game and that's
what was so awesome about it and took us on
this ride for two years and to have the ones
who always wanted basketball to be at this level women's
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basketball to try to shoot it down and diminish what
she did is absurd.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
I agree with what you said that nobody has done
what Caitlyn has do done. But what if, like in
Diana Rossi said, I know, we keep using her again.
She's great, she's wonderful. Uh it's this isn't a bad
thing that we are comparing you or bringing you into
the conversation because of your comments. But what if she
just feels like I would have done the same thing,
if they would have levet me, but I was held back.
I was told I had to play like this and
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this is what I had to do in order to
get to the next level. It's just such a different
time period, and I really they're just like, man, I
can't believe that I that this girl does everything I
was told I couldn't do.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
And I'm going to answer that because Diana Tarassi is
one of the top, if not the top recruit. When
she was coming out of high school from California, she
chose to go to Yukon right Why because Yukon goes
and wins national championships and you could play with other
five or six McDonald's all Americans, And that's true.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
That's why that is a big reason why I think
Kitlin Clark is one hundred percent in the goat conversation
because she didn't go to a powerhouse and she led
Iowa to two straight finals and let's go. And also
their bench, I'm sorry iowas hahm.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
How many of.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Their bench play is actually played last night? Two? Three, maybe?
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Yeah, they didn't get a lot of contributions from no,
like it's the bench on on South Carolina, so they
were endless four and five stars.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Was Tessa Johnson, the freshman on Fire on Fire, the.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Bench contributed the same amount of points that this show
contributed yesterday, zero yes, and and the bench, by the way,
the only person who actually come in and get like
real minutes was one other person. So like they're starting five,
but they had a rotation of set. I know one
of their other players was hurt, but I mean they there.
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It was the Caitlin Clark Show.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
It was most of starting five played forty minutes.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Right and two players didn't come out of the game right.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
On forty eight.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Less than players didn't come out of the game. They
again not a stacked team like other teams, but she
again it was not a powerhouse, and she literally led
them to two back to back finals.
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Speaker 2 (22:09):
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Elbows and Puppy Dog's gonna be our conversation is that's
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Can't do it without the guys. By the way, Cavino
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He'll be again tomorrow morning for Dan and the Dan Nets.
Nick Cops got an update for us in about seven
minutes or so. Iowa Sam's our technical producer, and of
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course this show can't happen without our executive producer, Jason Stewart,
who's the eyes and ears of all of this. And
you just witnessed something Jason about today's Cavino and rich
show that apparently I don't know if it's struck a nerve,
but it grabbed your attention.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
And we got a lot of reaction to it on
social media and the message boards over in the break
What is this? This needs to this needs an explanation, Matt.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
There we got.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
That's actually pretty good.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
I think so that is a goat, that's.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
I think that's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Sheep, the sheep.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
That there's a little sheep or lamb in there. Yeah,
but I think they're all in the same general family.
That can be wrong. I'm not gonna knock her. I mean,
she's she's played, you know, the role of caring mother
in an all the commercial. She's what other what other
challenging roles.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Another mother somewhere else with two twins babies. I've been
a teacher.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
The Michael Winslow of Fox Sports Radio. Apparently it's not
too bad.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
I think it's pretty good. I mean I was. I
didn't even plan for that. I just came out organic.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Good job.
Speaker 8 (23:48):
Sheep are more with a B and goats are more
like with an M. It's like a mat with a goat.
But yeah, yeah, see that's more of an M sound
with the goat.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
I'll take what the doctors.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Sure, okay, doctor, okay.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Doctor, cope, we are talking about elbows. I don't think
sheep or goats have elbows.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
It's just legs, just legs, just once sort of leg.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Major League Baseball. What a weekend? Yeah, Shane Bieber done
for the year, Spencer Strider, Yeah, opportunity is gonna.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
It's a good thing. We're halfway through the season.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Oh wait, who do you blame for these elbow injuries
in Major League Baseball?
Speaker 10 (24:27):
If?
Speaker 3 (24:27):
I don't think it's one thing, to be honest with you,
I think there are several factors. But I do think
that analytics and science and us coddling the arm the
last couple of years, trying to protect it has actually
made things worse. I don't think we are actually protecting
the arm. We're not letting fellas develop at a younger
(24:51):
age to build up that muscle, that endurance that you know, Yeah,
let me see how many pitches I can do until
my arm falls off. I don't know. Maybe I'm just
old school, but I we're just not letting that happen anymore.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
This isn't a cop out, but I think what has
happened is there have been a series of changes throughout
Major League Baseball, and we're gonna actually hear some audio
from two very good pitchers in Major League Baseball, once
Justin Verlander and another's Tyler Glasnow on issues that they
have felt. I think that there's been one thing and
then there's another, and there's another, and there's another. But
if I ultimately had to say something, it is the
(25:23):
start of Masters Week. And one of the big issues
in golf over the last couple of years has been
what do you do with the golf ball or the
golf clubs, because pretty soon certain courses are going to
be obsolete because the science is just outracing every That's
the argument of some and I actually feel that's the
way in Major League Baseball as well. Things have changed
in all those little things that add up, and now
(25:44):
it becomes a completely different game than maybe we had
twenty or thirty years ago. And now one of the ramifications,
and maybe one of the unintended consequences, are these rash
of elbow injuries not just happening to one or two pitchers,
happening to multiple pictures over the last few years, and
young pick pictures as well. And so I don't want
(26:05):
to be a cop out and say it's a variety
of different things as well. Because I do think that science.
He's on the forefront of all of it.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
But it is a couple of different things. That's what
sucks about it. And maybe that's why we're seeing them
happen so early in the season right now, because it
is several factors that are just kind of making things
spiral out of control in a way.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
You know, Yeah, and no, I get it. Justin Verlander
weighed in on this and this topic. When was this
doctor Cope, doctor Nick Cop? When did Verlander again just
legally not a doctor just for the show, Just think doctor.
Speaker 8 (26:37):
J was a real I might be wearing a white
coat and a stethoscope, but not a doctor.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Dave Roberts is called doc just because his initials are dr.
So listening, you're fine, Okay, there you go, Doc.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Is that better?
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Doc?
Speaker 8 (26:49):
I'll take it? Yes, thank you. I feel better now,
there you go. Yes, this was Verlander had his take.
This was yesterday. Here you guys go.
Speaker 10 (26:57):
You know, everybody's throwing as hard as they possibly can
and spinning the ball as hard as they possibly can,
and you know it's hard to deny those results. Obviously,
it's a double edged sword. How can you tell somebody
to go out there and not do that when they're
capable of throwing a hundred. When the balls started to
change back in twenty sixteen and they started flying out
a bit more frequently, I know myself personally, that started
(27:17):
changing how I had to approach pitching. You have to
start approaching the batter as I want swing and miss
I can't have him put the ball in play.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
So there's Vera Lander and you're talking about arguably the
greatest pitcher of this generation, truly like you are, and
he had to change his the way that he pitches
about eight years ago because of what is going on.
That's a really big freaking deal, Like it really really
is for someone like that to be like, all right now,
(27:46):
this is what I got to do differently. And it's
not only him, this is Tyler glassnow, but it was
Tyler Glassno. Three years ago when we started to deal
with the sticky stuff on gloves and we're checking gloves
and stuff like that. This is what he was a
member of the Tampa Bay Ray talking about the issues
and specifically one of the issues that he had with
not being able to use some of the sticky stuff
in baseball.
Speaker 9 (28:07):
I went cold turkey, nothing and before that start, I
remember when all this stuff came out, I was talking
to people and talking to doctors, and they were like,
the thing that maybe MLB doesn't realize or that players
don't realize, is like what is the injury, Like what
is the prevention of Like maybe it'll add to injuries.
And in my mind, I was like, that sounds dumb.
That sounds like an excuse a player would use to
make sure he can use sticky stuff. But I threw
(28:28):
to the Nationals with nothing. I've never been I don't
use sticky stuff to I don't use spider tack. I
don't need more spin. I have huge hands. I spin
the ball fine, I want grip. I did well against
the Nationals, probably one of the best starts I had
all year. I woke up the next day and was like,
I am sore in places that I didn't even know
I had muscles in Like I felt completely different. I
switched my fastball grip and my curveball grip. I've thrown
(28:50):
it the same way for however many years I've played baseball.
I had to change. I had to put my fastball
deeper into my hand and grip it way harder and
I had to instead of holding my curveball at the
tip of my fingers, I had to dig it deeper
into my hand. So I'm choking about all my pitches.
Mike cue I used to use with Snyder was hold
the ball like an egg, like nice and loose bee loose.
That's out of the window.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
I think that's very telling, and that's only one part
of the equation. Mont Like he's just literally talking about
when they said, hey, you can't have the sticky stuff anymore,
look at the immediate changes that he had to go
along with Verlander. That's part of the little things that
add up with never thinking about the health of actually
one of your biggest commodities in your entire sport.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
So we've got the ball changing, like Verlander says, We've
got the sticky stuff being banned, and then now we
have the pitch clock, which the Players Association has been
pretty much against from the beginning, even though the league
says that there is no exact proof that this is
the reason the injuries are happened. I think the league
even said that last year in the minor leagues the
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injuries were down with the pitch clock. But I think
the pitchclock can be a factor for some guys, especially
some of the older guys. And this has been already
for a year now. Since the beginning, a lot of
players have not like the pitch clock. You're speeding me up,
and like It's a tough one though, because I like
the pitch clock in the sense of the perspective of
(30:11):
the fan. It is speeding up the game. It is
making it more fun and more exciting. But I also
understand if you've been doing something for years and you
kind of have a routine, and even baseball is a
team sport, but it's not. You're really on your own
when you're pitching. And if that is your routine and
all of a sudden you're told like, okay, you can't
do that anymore. You got to do it like this,
(30:33):
that has to also be a factor.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Jason Stewart's our executive producer.
Speaker 6 (30:37):
I think that Jeff Passen, he wrote a book I
think called The Arm and I read the piece today
by Tom Verducci, and I think, to add on to
everything you guys just discussed, it's something that is starting
at the youth level. So it's been a decade or
two in the making and to think that that is
(30:57):
the root. Cause it's kind of scary because what do
we do now We reverse everything on the youth level,
and then it'll start matriculating in five or ten years.
It's like, I don't know what the solution is. And
I think that's what Passing said today in his piece.
It was like, the solution is something that's going to
be long term, and we need to do it yesterday.
But for all these reasons, it's just so sad that
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fans are going to be without their top pitchers. I mean,
Special Striyer was just such an amazing guy to watch
for everybody.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
It's just sad. It just stinks.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
The ramifications I think are going to be even bigger
because you talk about like making a change. Look at
all of the steps that I've already been made to
get us to this point. So if you're going to
make a change, all of those steps are likely going
to have to somehow be a rased or I think
you just go further down the line. I don't know
how you turn it around. Maybe maybe doctor nik Kope
(31:50):
is got well.
Speaker 8 (31:51):
I was gonna say, I would love to include some
comments from an actual doctor. Maybe the most famous orthopedic
surgeon one doctor James Andrews, who recently retired but as
article which in fact is on MLB dot com from January,
talks about the injury rate that he's done Tommy John's
in his career and.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
He said it's totally flipped.
Speaker 8 (32:14):
Twenty plus years ago, most of them used to be
in the major leagues, and then as you funnel down
through the miners, college youth, it got less and less,
but it's totally flipped.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
He says.
Speaker 8 (32:25):
The largest number that he's done is youth baseball. They
have surpassed what's being done in the major leagues. And
he said that you've got kids throwing ninety miles an
hour in their junior of high school, but they've learned
in their research at baseball is a development. The Tommy
John ligament matures at about age twenty six and in
high school the redline where the forces go beyond the
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tensil properties of the ligament is.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
About eighty miles an hour.
Speaker 8 (32:52):
So you're having kids that are eighteen and younger well
exceeding that and that's contributing to this wholeheartedly.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
This has been decades in the making, and.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Doctor James Andrews once paid for my cab on the
way from the airport to the downtown Indie hotel. So
I'm taking whatever he says as gold.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Is this real?
Speaker 2 (33:11):
That is a true story. In fact, I've got his
email in my phone still.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
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Speaker 2 (33:30):
It's Covino and Rich here on Fox Sports Radio. I
thought someone said Linger earlier. Is that why? Iowa Sam
that they did say Linger?
Speaker 3 (33:37):
I said, don't let the bad taste in your mouth? Linger.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
That's what was that where it came from? Yes, I
figured it was. She's Monte Belaios. I'm Dan Byer in
for Covino and Rich IOA. Sam's here, Jason Stewart's here.
So is Nick Cope, doctor, doctor Nick Cope. I was
a huge Cranberries fan back in the day.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
Yeah, yes, all right, Dolores o'raderton.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Yes, well we had to bring it down.
Speaker 5 (34:01):
Sorry, she's gone.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
She's great. I know, I know, you see this is
the thing. Sam's a topper like you know, these people,
you know, they just can't help themselves. Like I did
a joke about a week ago right on the air.
You remember this, Jason Stewart, Oh, I do? And then
Sam broke it down how it technically wasn't like one
hundred percent accurate. I do that, but it was funny,
(34:23):
but it was. It was a funny joke. But he
broke it down.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
So you don't have to let it linger, Dan, I don't,
but I did.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
But here's a great example, Audi Audi. What's her name?
Speaker 5 (34:36):
Audie Crooks from Iowa State?
Speaker 6 (34:38):
The basketball part? Audi Audi Crooks? Yeah, Audi Crooks. I'm like,
you know, her sister's BMW and Mercedes. I said that
out loud, and Sam says, and her other sister a Lexus.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
Now he tries, this is actually a name. He tried
to top it, but it was wrong. It was wrong.
Speaker 6 (34:55):
I was going for German engineered luxury car and he
goes with a Japanese product.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
I think it's also considered luxury.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Is it? Is it a need to be involved, Sam?
Or is it the need to top?
Speaker 5 (35:07):
I just love Riffin Man. Just get used to it.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
I just know. I just I'm curious.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
Toppers are great toppers pizza, right, here's excellent, big fan.
There's a budget, different toppers, hopping and shopping, that's my name.
We're going to get to this, John Kyla Pari audio
at the top.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Quiet.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
No one jokes from me. There's too many toppings on
the pizza already have that.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
We all have that person in our lives that is
always the topper, And then you wonder it's like, are
they the topper? Do they just like I want to
be included in all of it, and I don't think
because Sam is always included. So that's why I think
he's more of the topper.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
I just think.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
I don't know if people know that Dolores or Read
passed away like five years ago.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
I know, but the people that do know care about
the Cranberry so they knew. The people that don't care
about the Cranberries probably didn't know, so they didn't need
to know at that point. Well, yeah, and so I
just listening. You just got to paint the entire portrait
for the listener. You know what, Sam, there's no need
to argue. We will move on, no need to argue.
(36:10):
Was a Cranberry's album. That's how you know my fandom.
Thank you very much.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
You topped that one.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
Nice.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Thank you very much, well done, well done.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Hit him up at Iowa Sam ninety nine, who did
appreciate our backing of Caitlin Clark, who tweeted out within
the past hour when the TV numbers came out eighteen
point seven with a fire emoji afterwards.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
I mean, that's a lot. That's a lot. I'm not surprised,
and she's.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
The reason for it. Yeah, which, by the way, I
actually love seeing that because I don't feel that it's
egotistical because it's a game that they lost, right, you know,
like like she probably just had the most crushing loss
of her career and she's willing to tweet out what
it meant for the game of women's basketball.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Yeah. Loss, I didn't even think of that. You're right, No,
but it's gonna sting. But she's she's got more left
in her to do so, but it's gonna sting for
a bit.
Speaker 5 (37:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Hit her up at Manzy Belanhos. You can find me
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