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July 19, 2024 37 mins

Dan and Monse in for Covino and Rich as they talk about Caitlin Clark's decision to not participate in the WNBA's 3-pt contest at All-Star weekend. Dan Beyer gives his thoughts on the Open Championship as Tiger Woods had a rough outing. Plus, Dan and Monse discuss 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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Speaker 1 (00:19):
We can't do it alone as well. We have got
quite the crew here at Fox Sports Radio sitting in
for Covino and Rich today. Tiger Woods not going to
stick around for the weekend. Rory macclroy not going to
stick around for the weekend. Kaitlyn Clark will stick around
for the weekend, but not do as much as you thought.
Welcome in. It is a Friday. Our good buddy. Jason

(00:42):
Stewart is here today our executive producer, Hello Jason.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Hello Over Moody.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Iowa. Sam is our technical producer. Today is Friday. And
Nick Cope is at the anchor desk, saluting you. Monty Belanos,
let's keep going.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
I don't know if I'm saying I can't figure out
this Mike today. Are you trying to do the show
on your own?

Speaker 5 (01:01):
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Speaker 1 (01:14):
Treating at like Hulkogan tweeted his shirt last night at
the RNC. Is Trump still talking? Do we know? I'm
sure that joke has probably been said by eight thousand
other radio hosts today. That was a that was a
long speech last night. Queen Bay's gonna have a good
team this year.

Speaker 6 (01:32):
Right I went to bed, I was like, this guy's
got he's outlasting all of us.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
Yeah, No, I was not watching it was.

Speaker 6 (01:41):
I watched for l like it was ninety two minutes. I
watched for probably over an hour, over an hour.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
I did not watch the entire ninety two minutes. There
was a point where I where I did duck out.
I would say probably forty minute. Mark did not realize
that it went on for ninety two minutes. There was
a point, I think, like many others, that went back
and it was still going on, brother and still talking,
and he was still talking and still talking and still talking.

(02:06):
But I did catch the shout out to the Wisconsin
delegation that, of course, why why fight stereotypes? Just embraced them.
Everybody with a cheesehead, right that just everybody with a cheesehead?

Speaker 5 (02:20):
Why not?

Speaker 1 (02:20):
By the way, this wasn't a thing, I would say
thirty some years ago. But now any place you go,
any airport you go. Doug was just here, Doug Gottlieber
at our Fox Sports radio studios. When I saw him
last week in Green Bay. We went and had lunch
at lambeau Field. Doug wasn't there, he was actually doing
his show at the time, but went to the pro shop.
There were cheesehead there were cheeseheads, there were cheese had footballs,

(02:43):
the whole deal. Why not lean into it? Right?

Speaker 4 (02:46):
I secretly love it. I think it's awesome.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
And I'll tell you what. You're the audience for it.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
Yeah, even though I'm not a fan of that team,
I think it's awesome. I'm into it.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
Are you Iowa? Sam's a Packers fan? Are you four
or the cheesehead? Do you like the cheesehead at the convention? Anywhere,
just anywhere?

Speaker 6 (03:06):
I like the cheesehead Iowa does, even though they're kind
of stealing an idea from the corn Huskers they do,
like the corn cob head. I used to have one
of those. I think cheese head is much more original.
But like they do this now where like if you're
from Texas, you have to wear a cowboy hat at
the convention. If you're from Wisconsin, put the cheese head on. Yeah, yeah,
but this like makes you recognizable, correct, And that's that's
I guess that's just my issue with it. It's become so

(03:28):
much of this stereotype of Wisconsin that everybody wears a
cheesehead as someone from Wisconsin and with friends and family
that don't have cheeseheads. Yeah, I just feel like it's
it's it's for all.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Of you right now. So MANSI saying it makes me
makes me realize that it's not about me, It's about
you guys.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
Correct, Like if I showed up and put that on,
people are going to be like, oh, she's not from
around here. This is our first times?

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Yeah, Like yes, And there are rules are rules at
my local airport, like do not like touch the cheese
head or put on the cheese head. Like I think
it's just grab and buy because they don't want it.
Ruins get stretched out.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
Is it like spongey. It's like spongy.

Speaker 6 (04:15):
I saw someone using it as a firm spongenge, an
airplane pillow.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
I saw someone using it as an airplane pillow once
in a picture. Yeah, that would be That would be pretty.
Then you really like your mattress and pillows firm because
it's not. It needs to have some structure.

Speaker 4 (04:31):
Sure.

Speaker 6 (04:32):
By the way, Dan, one more thing. Sorry, Uh, the
packers are not even known for it's not they didn't
pack cheese is meat packing?

Speaker 1 (04:39):
So like the cheese thing, there we go. No, I know,
but it's like maybe he thought that Bob Newhart appeared
on Mary Tyler Moore yesterday. Yes, Sam makes it up
with another tidbit. Uh here, No, you are.

Speaker 6 (04:54):
Correct, it's just a miss I think it's a misconception.
People think it's about packing cheese, but it's about I
don't know it does.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah. I don't know how many people actually realize that
it was from a packing company. I don't I don't
even know how many people realize that. I think they
just think that they call them the packers for whatever reason,
just like you would name a team like the Bears.
But I kid, Sam, I appreciate that that tidbit bringing
the knowledge here on Cavino and Rich. Will Caitlin Clark

(05:22):
wear a corn cob head in the three point shootout
at the w NBA's All Star Weekend? When is the
three point shootout?

Speaker 4 (05:30):
Mantci to be fine, Yes, it is today. Oh, it
is today at nine eastern.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Okay, nine eastern. Yes, I'm gonna say no because she's
not competing in it, So there's the answer. I don't
think that she will. And we have seen her hit
the red carpet, excuse me, orange carpet with the Versace,
the Tiffany.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
Yeah, she knows how to approach those carpets. It's not
our first time.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
And the Cardia. I don't think that a corn cob
head or hat would would fit fit in. But Caitlin
Clark has had a difficult time fitting in the WNBA,
a lot.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
Of the haters forcing herself in there.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Yes she is, and her game nineteen assists most recently,
and that loss earlier this week to Dallas grabbed a
lot of headlines. But I think that time is starting
to heal all wounds. But sometimes wounds reopen. Yes, sometimes
scabs get ripped off. And when Caitlin Clark decided to
not compete in the three point shootout that is taking

(06:25):
place tonight. The Caitlyn Clark haters and detractors used it
as open season on all of those who supported Caitlin
Clark or wanted her on the US Olympic team. Now
it is. I don't want to say everyone, because it's
not everyone. But is that a fair assessment money?

Speaker 4 (06:45):
Of course it is, and you could just go on
ex Twitter and see that several people feel that way.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
All right. Should Kaitlin Clark have competed in the three
point shootout?

Speaker 4 (06:54):
Of course she should have. I think she should have.
But I also put this on the league itself. How
is this not in the contract the minute she joined
the WNBA, Not just her, but Sabrina Yunescu, both of
them one hundred should should be participating in this. But
again I put this more on the league. How did
you not put this in pen and writing and have

(07:14):
them sign we are gonna do this even if you're
gonna pay them. I don't care. How is this not
set up weeks ago?

Speaker 1 (07:20):
I don't have an answer for that. I am not sure,
but I do agree with you that it is an
enormous miss. It is an enormous miss. I think that
there are there are opportunities, And Caitlin Clark used the
reverse situation in talking with the media in saying that listen,
I've been playing basketball for nine months straight. I'm not

(07:43):
used to getting basketballs shooting basketballs out of IRAQ, and
I just wanted to get some rest after not only
playing at Iowa for that entire season, but then also
beginning her WNBA career. I think all of that is understandable.
I still don't think that it makes up for her
not competing in the three point shootout. We're not If

(08:04):
Caitlyn Clark were to win it, okay, awesome, great. If
she were to lose it, the person who actually wins
it gets a boost. And guess what, you're probably watching it.
I'm probably watching it. I know Iowa, Sam and Jason
aren't watching it tonight because they are locked into Caitlin Clark.
So just by her being there and competing, it's not
about winning. It's not about rest. You have an entire

(08:26):
month off starting this weekend. Your season doesn't resume until
mid August because of the Olympics. That is why she
should be competing in the three point shootout. But in
saying that, it's also not the same energy of if
you felt that she should have been on the US
Olympic team. I don't think that you also then have
to say to her you then have to compete in

(08:48):
the three point shootout. I think that they are complete
apples and oranges when you're looking at the two situations.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
I couldn't agree more with that. It's not the same
at all. And also hypothetically, like if I'm Kaitlyn Clark,
I'm just saying how I would handle it. I'm not
saying she handled it like this, But you didn't put
me on the Olympic team. Yeah, maybe I don't want
to participate in a three point shooting contest. Even that's
how I know that sounds a little bit like she's,

(09:15):
you know, salty, salty. Yes, I'm saying I'm salty. I'm
salty for her, not saying Caitlyn is salty. I'm just
saying I would be salty, and I would be like,
I'm not gonna participate in the three point shooting contest,
but you know what, I'm gonna sit there and I'm
gonna watch and I'll be there and I think that
is even more interesting?

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Is she gonna very interesting? I like that angle a lot.
That's the you need me more than I need you,
and I like that. I like that angle.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Yeah, but if nobody's watching her sit, what's the point.

Speaker 4 (09:44):
But it's still going to generate a story. Maybe after
the fact, we're gonna see the videos of Kaitlyn at
this event not participate.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
You just think crappy ratings will then show, Hey, WNBA,
you should have treated me better.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
Yeah, but that's that.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
But that's the whole reason why we've gotten to the
this place. Like, I don't mind Caitlyn Clark saying no,
because she's practically said yes to everything, But it just
seems odd that the reason why we want her in
this contest is the reason why we were so excited
to see her in this league is launching threes like

(10:21):
this nineteen assist game that she had revealed that she
is much more than just a scorer of the basketball,
that she can deliver the basketball as well. But the
reason why we wanted Caitlin Clark to take over the
WNBA was because of her shooting promise, and now in
a scenario where maybe she didn't have time to practice

(10:41):
so be it just her being out there would bring
enough attention, and that's the reason of why we want
to see it. If she gets later on in her career,
like guys in the dunk contests, Hey, I don't want
to compete anymore because I'm just over that. I think
that's something that we can be accustomed to. But her
promising future years doesn't do much for me, because this
is the reason why we're watching the WNBA right now,

(11:03):
wanting to see her launch threes, wanting to see her
hit those shots. Sabrina, and ask you to the same point,
But she's not bringing in everybody, even though you'd ask you,
is you know, built for this competition. Maybe she wants
to take a break because of the Olympics and what
she's done previously. I don't think Caitlyn Clark has that
sort of leeway to I think she should be able

(11:25):
to say no, But I don't think she should have
the leeway of ducking out of this competition, since this
is the reason why we were so interested in watching
her play in this league.

Speaker 4 (11:32):
So two things you just said, Sabrina Unescu. You're saying
I hear what you're saying. Because she isn't the gravitational
poll that has been Caitlin Clark. But I still as
the league, I would have been like, you still have
to participate because now that the eyes are on the league,
you are somebody that people are paying attention to. You
were also in the three point shooting contest with Steph Curry.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Of course you have to be, which is why Caitlyn
Clark should be in it, because the whole thing is
set up for her.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
Now one thousand percent. Again, I don't know why she
said no. If it's because she's salty, I'm just saying
I don't blame her, but she she it's definitely a
missed opportunity, and she strikes me as a type that
like I actually don't think she's worried about losing, Like,
I don't think that was the reason she didn't do it.
I don't think she was like, Wow, what if I lose,

(12:18):
this is really going to ruin. No, it's not going to.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Do that, Kayln clark Y.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
She doesn't seem like the type to be worried about
that right now in her career, Like, there's so many
other things happening around her that I don't think she
said no, because she was like, well what if I lose? No, girl,
I don't think that.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
I agree. I agree she doesn't come off like that, yes,
but I also think like of her, of her sitting
out to stick it to USA basketball. I just I
understand your theory, and I know Jason loves it. I
just I can't connect the dots on that one. Like,
I just if if you're saying that I'm going to

(12:56):
play in the All Star Game because the fans voted
me in and that so I'm obligated to play in
that game against the team that I should have been ONMM,
then that's and if you score twenty seven against that
Olympic team and you show them and stick it to them, like,
that's the way to stick it to them, sitting out
of an event that, to be quite honest, I did
not realize that they had a three point shootout at

(13:17):
the WNBA All Star Weekend. I didn't realize that there
was competitions. I don't know any of the other competitions
that are at this All Star Weekend that are taking
place tonight, so it's all new to me. So her
sticking it to them, I wouldn't even have known about it.
If if it wasn't the story that it's it's become
that she ended up saying, no, I would have known

(13:38):
about it if Street was in it, And now I
knew about it because she turned it down. But it
wasn't like I must see come and watch this game.
When they had the all start voting, I just thought
there was an All Star game and that would be it.
It's all new to me.

Speaker 4 (13:49):
Sticking it to them. I don't know if that I
know I used salty as how I would feel. I
don't know if she's sticking it to them. But you know,
imagine being told like, well, you're not on the Olympic
team because you whatever the ex stupid reasons that you're
not going to play that much, that you know you
didn't deserve it, all of that. So it's just kind
of like, well, if you feel like this about the

(14:10):
Olympic team, then the three point shooting contest shouldn't be
that important. So if I'm not on this and I
miss this, it should it shouldn't be that important. If
you don't think I should be on the Olympic team,
then the three point shooting contst should not be that important. No, yeah,
I hear what you're saying. I hear what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
There's a theory out there. Gottlieb just used it earlier
on Fox Sports Radio if you missed it, that because
she hasn't been shooting well, that maybe this just isn't
her cup of tea this time around, maybe she's running
out of gas. But again, if she were to shoot
three of twenty five, yeah, do you think? I don't know,
I just don't see collateral damage.

Speaker 4 (14:49):
I don't either, you know, from it.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
I actually think people would be like, you know what,
she's played nine? You know what. That's actually really naive
of me, as I say it out loud. Who am
I to think that some would give her a break?

Speaker 4 (15:01):
Nobody?

Speaker 1 (15:01):
That that is, you know, in saying that out loud
to I guess to what Doug's point is now in
saying that nobody's going to give her a break for
doing it. But I still think that you need to compete.
It's the reason why you came into the league. Yeah,
whether you go three of twenty five, maybe it hit
seventeen in a row and it becomes even more of
a legend. M you know that there's that opportunity.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
It's definitely a missed opportunity. And I really put it
more on the league itself that this was not handled
weeks ago, weeks ago. And also if you knew she
wasn't going to participate weeks ago, then you should just
shut that down from the beginning. But they asked her
a couple of weeks ago and she just didn't even answer.
She kind of like was very vague about it.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
How do you here's the and I understand the TMOSA
is playing in the Middle East right now, so it's
not possible. But off the heels of that All Star
game that you had in mid February, and you see
how Sabrini and Escu stuck her neck out and honestly
Steph Curry did as well. Yeah, how do you not

(15:59):
have Steph Curry at this All Star weekend?

Speaker 4 (16:02):
Well I thought about that as well, or just any
Damian Lillard just dame time somebody like they could have
used them as like their coaches, like a one on
one They're going to be there as coaches.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Could have had the competition there, like if if Steph's
like returning the favor, yep, you know with it. And
I and the point is is I understand all Star
games are are set ahead of time. Maybe there's a
way not to, But couldn't you have figured out a
way to make this work before Team USA ends up
leaving town before all of this happens. Maybe a move

(16:35):
up the All Star Game a week earlier if you can,
or to try to accommodate something like that. That's how
you also really cash in is you don't have it
just to crossover one way, you have it back the
other way.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
Have helped all of that. How are we blame? How
are we not more putting blame on the league? With
everything you just added? How is this not handled taken
care of? Planned?

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Yeah? You know when you say the league, I just
think that there is I don't disagree with you in
that I don't know what the league could have done
to have avoided the backlash that she got from other
players and teams this season. And the reason I say
that is because I don't want to put this as

(17:18):
another thing that the WNBA messed up. Because they've put
all of her games basically on TV. Every game that
she plays is a home game, whether it's in Indiana
or on the road. The fans are cheering for her.
The backlash came from the other players and came from
the other coaches. The league did try to squeeze as
much out of that Orange as you could possibly get

(17:38):
to maximize her. And while this may be a misstep,
I have a tough time completely blaming them because I
don't think that they have been fully to blame for
a lot of the hate that has come her way
over the last two months.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
I don't think they're to blame for the hate. I
agree with you on that, but I don't. But I
don't think that they have handled her coming into the
league and the best. I feel like there's been several
missteps that could have helped the league, could have helped Caitlin,
could have helped Angel Reese. I just think the league
was really not prepared for the effect that Caitlyn Clark

(18:13):
and Angel Reese had coming into the WNBA.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
I think they were ready to reap all the benefits
and were not prepared for any of the backlash.

Speaker 4 (18:20):
That's probably it.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
Jason Stewart's our executive producer, Dan Monsey.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
I did what all good producers should do, Dan, pose
the question five minutes ago. I don't even know what
the other skills are in these festivities. So I looked
it up and I found the competition for who can
rebound their own misses the.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Most stop one of them.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
Yeah, and then the other one is who could bitch
the loudest about a superstar coming into the league?

Speaker 4 (18:53):
Stop it.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
I heard that there are like forty two players competing
in that event tonight. That's why they got it started early,
got it, yeah, because there's so many.

Speaker 4 (19:00):
An everyone volunteered for that event.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
What actually, what I honestly, what I think is cool
is they've gathered the w NBA coaches and they're like,
who can kick Caitlyn Clark off the Olympic team quick enough?
Quick enough? Like that's we're gonna we're gonna see. Maybe
maybe it will be the Links coach. Those are all
the great options that we can't wait to see for
w NBA All Star Weekend. Do we know what the
other competitions are? Like, there's gotta be like, as.

Speaker 4 (19:26):
I'm gonna look it up, there's.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
There's the skills and there's a three point that's it.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
No don competition, no done, No.

Speaker 6 (19:33):
I didn't think that there would be that'd be the
only Britney grinder could do that. Probably yeah, maybe a
couple of ys crazy layup nothing like that Cones drill.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
That's probably within the Skills Channel.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
Game of Lightning.

Speaker 6 (19:46):
If there was an assist thing, then Kitlyn Clark would
have to be in on that. You know, I don't
know how you do that.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Well, yeah, she should be like, she should compete in something.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
She should she should be a part of this and
not just in the game.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah, that's I think that. I think that's the whole one.
We actually agree on that portion of it.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Oh, apparently are going to have a three on three
showcase ahead of the Olympics as well, because there's going
to be a three on three team.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Yeah, well the camera brink was injured so she was
unable to. But Hayley van Lyth is one of the
members of the three team USA three and three squad
the former LSU think she's now at TCU ended up transferring.
So yeah, so that ends up at least adding to
I guess some of the spotlight.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
Britney Griner is in the Skills Challenge.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
Okay, all right, but again she would have been the
only one really in the dunk competition.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
Yeah, so she's you know, she again she wants to
participate in something.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
At least we know the names in these competitions, unlike
the dunk competition in the NBA. She's Mazy.

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Is that what you mean?

Speaker 1 (21:06):
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(21:28):
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Speaker 4 (21:30):
What didn't you like about it? He was wearing like
earbuds that you.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
Put in because sometimes they shoot video correct.

Speaker 4 (21:36):
But what didn't you like about it?

Speaker 1 (21:38):
It was just it just sounded completely different. It wasn't
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posted right after we get off the air. I love
this this time of year. It's the Open Championship and
it's a leader board that kind of has a lot
to you know, love to be desired. Shane Lowry leads

(22:20):
the Open Championship at seven under par. I know Nick
Cope's gonna give us an update in just a matter
of minutes, but there are two enormous names that missed
the cut. Tiger Woods finished at fourteen over par, twenty
one shots back of the lead. Rory McElroy finished eighteen
shots back. He was at plus eleven. I want to
say quick something about Tiger because we talked about Tiger

(22:45):
yesterday on the show with Kerry Rhodes. I know you
weren't here Monci, but it my thoughts haven't changed. I
feel a lot of people are having the same thoughts
of you can't expect Tiger to win anymore, but I
do expect him, at least at some point in the
next five years to compete in any But there was
just no way that he was going to be able
to compete this year when he's only played in four
other tournaments in three of those have been majors. He

(23:09):
played at the Genesis in February and then played the Masters,
the PGA, and the US Open. Made the cut at
the Masters, missed it at the PGA, missed it at
the US Open, and now missed it here at the
Open Championship. You cannot compete at a high level playing
only five times a year, and when the Golf Channel
put up his future schedule, Tiger's not going to be

(23:32):
playing a lot for the next few months. The only
events that we know he's likely going to tee it
up and are his Hero World Challenge that he has
in the Bahamas in December, and then the Father Son
event that he plays a couple of weeks after that
in late December, and then it's going to be on
to the new year. But the new rule allowing Tiger
to play in signature events in the PGA Tour next
year automatically just come in and play will allow him

(23:53):
to get more reps, and I feel that he will. Yes,
I feel that it won't be as bad as it was.
And I know it's a downer and I know that
it stinks, but he will give us a flash of excitement,
a flashback to history at some point in the next
five years. We just don't know what major it's going
to be. Some will suit him, others will not. Maybe

(24:13):
it's back at Augusta. Maybe it is the Open Championship.
The point is there are probably going to be a
lot more weekends like this, but this shouldn't have been
unexpected considering how little he played.

Speaker 4 (24:23):
I hope you're right. I think Tiger Woods is beloved
by most people. And I also feel like Tiger Woods
is not the type of dude, not the type of
athlete to just go through the motions of something. He
has to still be doing this because he thinks he
has it in him, because he thinks he can't compete.

(24:44):
He doesn't seem like the type you know, like John Day,
who's still out there.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
You know he withdrew from the Open, but he's.

Speaker 4 (24:52):
Out there just because he's want He just wants to
have fun. He's just out there to have a good time.
Not that Tiger Woods doesn't want to have a good time,
but I don't think him not making the cut is
good times for him, Like that's not what he's out
there for. He's out there because he thinks he can
still do it.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
He's and that has always been the case with Tiger,
and I think that's what has thrown people off of
these last couple events where he really, I mean he
didn't make the cut, so you can't say that he
competed or was in contention. I mean he competed, he
just didn't didn't fare well. Tiger would enter all of
his events thinking that he could win. That's the mindset.
That's why he was as dominant as he was. And

(25:28):
people are now saying, hey, man, you kind of have
to realize that you know that maybe you aren't going
to win. I actually think Tiger knew that he was
going to win. I think there's an underlying story that
is not talked about a lot, but maybe part of
the obligations of Tiger Woods. Tiger Woods and Nike split
at the end of the year after a long, long
partnership dating back to the nineteen nineties. We saw Tiger

(25:52):
and the swoosh and everything with it. But what Tiger
also did was Tiger launched his own clothing brand. And
when you launch your own clothing brand, you have to
be in events to be seen to sell that gear.
So when you see his new logo that's on his shirts,
and he's had staggered releases and there was one this
week for the Open Championship, I almost think that he

(26:16):
ended up playing in these events because they had a
peril to get out. They had apparel to sell. They
wanted people to buy this brand, and if Tiger's not playing,
there's no way that this brand ends up getting off
the ground. I don't know what their sales are. I
haven't seen it widely worn. I did order a pullover.
I do have one in my closet the day that
it launched. I did make it. Yeah, they had They're

(26:38):
not bad looking logo, could maybe be a little tweaked
out and know a little bit. But the point is
is I also think that he felt an obligation because
of what was on the line to play the practice
rounds in this gear, to do the press conference in
his gear, to play these first two rounds in the
gear that he's trying to sell. I think that actually
played a part of it as well. So it may
not have been the old Tiger of wanting to win,

(27:00):
but more of now the business Tiger of we need
to get this off the ground and running.

Speaker 4 (27:03):
That has to one hundred percent be a factor in
this because golfers tennis players, one they don't play as
many games as other athletes, and two they're not wearing
a jersey, a uniform, a number that's associated with them.
So he has to show his face the few times
that he had that he can. That one has to
be a factor in it totally.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
There's the in Nike. I'll tell you this much, the
split with him in Nike. I don't know a lot
of the details, but the Jordan brand, how it is
taken off, and the dunks that you like to wear
in the dunks are so popular that you'll see on
courses around the country that that has been a more

(27:43):
popular golf shoe than anything that Tiger has put out recently.
And when Tiger wasn't playing, how is Nike going to
end up selling these golf shoes when he's not out
there playing and winning golf tournaments. So it ends up
pivoting towards more of the Jordans and the Jordan brand,
and that ends up catching on with the youth of today,
not even the youth, even people my age wearing the

(28:04):
same thing, and Tiger's gear ended up kind of being
left in the rear y mirror.

Speaker 4 (28:07):
I just got to tell you that dunks are not Jordan's.
But Jordan does have Jordan ones with which looked just
like dunks, but they're not dunk. Okay, they're two separate you.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
Might, but I was, I was thinking the same exactly, Like.

Speaker 4 (28:18):
Let me just make sure you know this aren't golf shoes.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
Don't get it twist.

Speaker 4 (28:21):
They're not the same, but yes, they're very close, very close.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
The point is is, how would those fashionable shoes take
over what Tiger Woods would wear.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
It's true because he does wear Jordan's. I've seen him
wear Jordan's.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
Tiger Tiger has his own shoe, He had his own
shoe for years with Nike, and then Jordans end up
and Jordan's got his own. You can see the Jordan
brand that aren't dunks correct or the style of it.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
A lot of golfers use a Jordan's style shoes, yeah, correct, correct.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
Tony you know would wear them, and now he's wearing
the dunks.

Speaker 4 (28:58):
Sky Scheffler has worn Fini a pair of Jordan's.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
Yeah, he actually.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Wore Tiger's shoes for a while. And now they actually
have rebranded it because Tiger's not there and they've kind
of taken off some of the Tigers So yeah, so
it's but the more fashionable shoe for Nike has taken
over what Tiger Tiger's stuff left in the rivery mirror.
It's a reason why I just I think that that
brand that he tried to launch ended up like being

(29:24):
a reason why we probably saw him in these events
when he had no preparation otherwise. As for Rory McElroy,
who missed the cut, I do want to say this,
he has still hung up about the US Open. I
don't care what you say. The fact is that he
still thinks that he was right in not speaking to
the media at that point tells me that he still

(29:44):
has not moved on from it. Is there have been
players who have had much worse collapses in golf that
have spoken to the media afterwards and have gotten it
off there, you know, out of their system and have
ended up going on and winning other golf tournaments. But
your in, I mean Dustin Johnson in twenty fifteen, had
a putt to win the US Open, missed it, then

(30:06):
missed the comebacker that would have tied and put him
in a playoff, so he lost the US So he
had a chance to win it and then lost it
in a span of three minutes and then spoke with
the media three minutes afterwards. If Rory is still feeling
this way about a miss putt, which, by the way,
there was no guarantee that he would have beaten Bryson
to Shambeau in a playoff, so it wasn't like that
he lost the US Open. He had it went out

(30:27):
of his grasp and Bryson ends up winning the event.
But if Rory makes that putt on eighteen, which was
a tricky putt, he's only in a playoff with Bryson,
or if he makes the pot on sixteen and still
misses the one on eighteen. But for him to still
think that he needed that it was okay for him
to duck the media and that there was nothing that
could be said. Makes me still think that he's affected

(30:48):
by it. And he finally teed it up last week
of the Scottish Open, but there hasn't been much golf
for Rory between then and now, and we haven't seen
much of him and him trying to get away. I
think some of that rust and all of this Hango
effected still with them.

Speaker 4 (31:01):
Yeah, there is definitely a hangover, and he was supposed
to have get a divorce and he didn't. There's a
lot going on that it seems like he has not
moved on or let go of certain things.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
She's Mancy Belano, So I'm Dan Byron nick Cope is
at the news desk. So honestly, when Manzi started talking,
I tuned out. So so what no about the dunks?
The Jordan's the thing? You know, you were explaining it
in the way I mean, I should say tuned out.
I got lost in what you were saying. You're saying
dunks are Jordan's, but Jordan's an't dunk.

Speaker 4 (31:32):
No, Jordan's are not dunks. They're both Nike, yes, but
dunks are just Nike. But Jordan's first shoot. There's Jordan numbers.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
Right, like George, we have the red, white and black.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
Carest Those ones look very similar to dunks, but they're not.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Dunks have an extra panel of coloring around the heel.
That's the the main difference.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
Jordan also has the little logo on the back typical
of the ones. Especially if they're heights you can see
it more.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
But and just just double check, there are no dunk
golf shoes.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
There's no just Ordanes.

Speaker 6 (32:11):
Okay, but it's the same style, very very similarly similar.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
Dunks are more comfortable. I may I may add these
I and this.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
Is me not obviously not being a sneakerhead at all
at all. They're all the same to me. You guys,
Jason said, you guys know what they're talking about.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
You no idea?

Speaker 4 (32:30):
Yeah, well, I'm going to bring in a pair of
and a pair of dunk.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
I know what you're talking about, but I just like,
to me, it's not the biggest like you two are
like so offended.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
By the way I was talking, because I guarantee you
there were people listening that were like, yeah, that's not
exactly right. This is is.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
This how I feel when people think that the PGA
Tour runs the US Open and the Masters. That's probably okay,
that's all right. Second, then I.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Can completely romantics, but it matters to some people stopping
you out.

Speaker 4 (33:02):
You know, So you don't have this conversation with somebody.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
I know that there are different Jordan's shoes like throughout
the year, but the first Jordan shoe similar like like
almost identical to the dunk.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
Correct.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Yes, I don't know what you're talking about. I don't
really care about that.

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Speaker 1 (33:30):
It's kivin here at Fox Sports Radio. She's Monty Belanio.
So I'm Dan Byer, still getting educated on shoes in
the shoe game?

Speaker 4 (33:37):
Oh, yes, we are.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
Well, was it exactly that I said? Wrong? We're in
for CNR.

Speaker 4 (33:40):
By the way you just cut You said that in
the same sentence that dunks and Jordan's were like the
same shoe, or implying that they were the same shoe.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Which they basically are, but they're not. Aside from the
one panel that Coke just cannot get over, you know,
it's a extent not know.

Speaker 4 (34:00):
It's that's like you, Kyle, We're trying to educate you
and give you street credit here, so you don't say
that to someone else and then they walk away.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
Iowa, Sam, he and I are alike, like if we
get something wrong, it really really bothers us. So that's
that's the wh It was.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Also that dunks and being a golf shoe, that that
is not a thing either. That that was the other
part of it.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
But I haven't seen Nick wanting to talk as much
as he just did on Fox Sports Radio in the
entire two plus years that he's been here. Like it
was like he was, he was just he had to
get that point out where I said that dunks are shoes.

Speaker 4 (34:36):
Yeah, I know I beat him to it, but he
was ready. We both were. We let you finish, are
we so nice? We let you finish everything you said
and when you were done, it's when I told.

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turned on him with the nWo of just being left
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heard something in my ear. Yes, Caleb Williams. Caleb Williams
has signed his deal with the Chicago Bears, and as
it turns out, he's basically just got a basic rookie contract. Yes,

(35:51):
the whole hubbub of no franchise tag of ownership. In
the end, there really wasn't much leverage for Caleb Williams.

Speaker 4 (35:59):
Now and he still does have an agent right correct,
He's handling this all on his own, So I wonder
if he's thinking about that, like, huh, yeah, I should
have gotten an agent, Maybe I could have gotten a
little more.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
Matt Eberflu said today that they expect Caleb Williams to
get preseason reps, which is one of those things, Manzi
that I'm like, well, that's not news, no, because he
should get preseason reps. Yes, you're not going to just
walk into Week one with a rookie who's never taken
a snap in the NFL. And the Bears actually have
the luxury this season because I think it is a

(36:33):
luxury for someone like Caleb Williams where you have four
preseason games because they play in the Hall of Fame game,
which by the way, is less than two weeks away. Wow.
So yeah, so you have one more Thursday, and then
that next Thursday there will be an NFL game going on.
That's how quickly your summer. Man, summer's just flying. By
Jason Stewart, the amazing the Bears having Caleb Williams playing

(36:55):
a preseason game as Matt Eberflu said, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 4 (36:59):
Yes, not just because the fans want it, but you
should want him out there taking reps. You should want
that as a coach. I'm not even talking about the
fans that want to see him. You have so many
new moving parts. Of course, you want to get him
out there as soon as you can.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
What do you yes when the Kansas City Chiefs play
Patrick Mahomes in the preseason like they do. I know
it's trending for a lot of teams to not play
their starters, but it's hard to make the excuse of
why they don't play just a little or you can,
you know, at least in some form, She's Monty Bellagios.
I'm Dan Byer, a Hall of Fame quarterback and a
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