January 3, 2025 • 43 mins
Covino & Rich are in for Colin! They have fun talking salad for breakfast & NFL QBs! What option would you prefer when selecting your franchise's next leader? The guys talk about a viral video about Crocs at the gym. Embarrassing, or acceptable? Plus, HERDLINE NEWS!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 3 (00:26):
How are we doing today CNR in for Colin on
the Herd. How you doing? How you doing?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
You do it?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
What's up? Buddy?
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Good morning, Good day line from the West Sun. I'm
Steve Covino. That is Rich Davis again the CNR show
in for Colin on the Herd.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Normally we're on.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
From two to four on the West five to seven
on the East on Fox Sports Radio. But when you say, hey,
you want to fill in for the Herd, absolutely, so
Happy New Year. We have until this weekend to say it, right,
We have until Monday, So Happy New Year. You're gonna
thrive in twenty twenty five, try to survive in twenty
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twenty five, and lots to get to today on the show,
How different would life be if life was incentive based
based on all the games this weekend in the NFL
the player incentives and Rich, like I said, is happy
New Year. We see our buddy Ryan, by the way,
Ryan on the ones and Tuesdaanny g super producing Ryan
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music on your updates. Again it's Covino and Rich. But
Ryan on the boards here eating salad for breakfast, pay
salad for breakfast.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Have you've never seen such a thing? He does because
he's on his New Year's resolution? Stir okay healthy, thank you? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:40):
But for breakfast, I mean, like you'vegwhite homelet you know, oatmeal,
r I have a salad. I don't think I've ever
eaten greens before noon, unless you're a bunny. I don't
really see it that often. The only greens Rich has
are the marshmallows and his lucky charms Mike Kelsey mix.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
So based on that, everybody's also at the gym trying
to stay healthy in the beginning of the year. For
the next two weeks, you're gonna see a lot of
people at the gym. What's the stat, Rich, isn't there
a stat? Over ten percent of all gym memberships are
activated on January first? Yeah, so people are trying to
keep their resolution intact. I get it, but you're also
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seeing what I call what we call the broccoli heads
at the gym. Lots of teenage boys, the alpaca boys
with their alpaca haircuts, the broccoli heads with their crocs
at the gym. Is this okay or not. We're gonna
get to that. We're gonna play some games, giveaway prizes.
We got show time of homes trivia, so lots to
get to on the Cavino and Rich Show, stick around
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and if you got a busy day catching on the podcast.
Like course, I want to tell quarterbacks to start the
show because there's so many there's so many ways to
look at this. We're getting ready for the playoffs. You're
seeing a lot of these young quarterbacks and bowl games.
If you're into college football, and you gotta ask yourself,
if you Steve Cavino, if you Danny g R Music,
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or if anyone listening, if you were a GM of
a football team in the NFL, there's angles to take
from the GM. I wouldn't be hang with you, be
living a life somewhere. It's fair yacht. If you were
a GM on a yacht not hanging with me, there's
ways to go. You could take a swing at some
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young college quarterback. You could try to sort of rejuvenate
the failed attempt of some young quarterback lingering in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
That's the way.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Or you could go the way of veteran that's got
a couple of years left in the tank.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
NA. The answer is simple, man.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
You gotta look at the trends, right the trend and
the trend is there's so many good quarterbacks that never
got a proper chance, proper shot. You think of guys
like Geno Smith and Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield, guys like that.
There's plenty of that in the NFL. Guys who've been there,
They've got a chip on their shoulder, they know what
it's like to lead an NFL team, they have some experience, they.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Have things to prove.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
I'd put my money in that than some young, nose
picking college kid who doesn't know what it's like yet.
I feel like success rate seems to be higher with
the guy that has a little more experience in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
And I would take my chances on.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
And I wish I can quote the people I heard
say this, but it's an obvious thought. It was some
podcasts like Two Goons in the room or something like that.
That's probably two goons in a room. When you think
about the trend and you think about players that have
had great comebacks recently, like the ones we just mentioned,
Sam Donald probably be in the biggest answer right now.
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The meme of Sam Donald and Baker Mayfield both as Panthers,
and it's like, look at them now, look at them now,
it's an amazing story. We were saying that Sam Donald
looked like a Lego fireman. Now he looks like an MVP.
He looks like both. All right, he looks like an
MVP Lego fireman. But when you think about some of
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these young players and you think about the teams they
played for, the players they played with, the coaches they
played under, you wouldn't give Zach Wilson another shot or
a Daniel Jones another shot. When you think about the
teams and players and coaches they played for. A guy
like Zach Wilson, he played better than Aaron Rodgers did
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with the Jets. Maybe it's not him, Maybe he does
have some juice. Why not take a chance, not pay
that much money for a guy that's proven that he
could win in the NFL, just with a crappy team.
Daniel Jones won a playoff game. Why wouldn't you take
a chance over them as opposed to some young kid
who I always questioned their leadership. You know how hard
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it is for a young, baby faced college quarterback to
come and play with all these men in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Not easy.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
But to quote the theme song to one of your
favorite shows, what be right for you may not be
right for some, may not be right for some. It's
a great song written by Alan Thick.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
I believe it was. It was different strokes.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
I don't know if you could say Sam Darnold and
Baker Mayfield are now the template for how to find
your guy, because that just that might be an illusion.
Like you might say, oh, great ideal, let's go get
Trey Lance. We can fix them. Let's you know, estimate
and undermine setting. You know that applies to not only
football everywhere in life. If you're not thriving where you are,
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it might be just because you're in the wrong mix
with the wrong people, at the wrong place, in the
wrong state. Like look at Spotty. Spotty was a slub
in New York. Out here in La in La. He
could be a new man. He is a new man.
He's called Hamilton. I did, Yeah, Hamilton new Yawk. You
can be a new man. And you're seeing a lot
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of this in the NFL. Yeah, our video guy spot
way different guy here than when he was on the
East Coast. So setting matters. You see.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Friends and coworkers. Now I'll get again.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
I'm gonna give you the three categories of NFL quarterbacks.
Number One, you could go overshoot and take a swing
at a guy like Danny G.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
You're a Raiders fan. You want Shador Sanders? Do you want?
Speaker 4 (07:22):
I don't hear Danny J. I could just pretend I'm
Danny G. I'll take Shador Sanders. He looks great and
silver and black. Yeah, I wouldn't be mad at Sanders.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Like, ask you something.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
If you're a fan of a team without a quarterback,
is your best bet, Like, let's go after a Shador
Sanders who might not? Is he really a top tier
round one quarterback or is there just such a need
for a quarterback that he sort of just moves up
the board such a need, but such a need realistically,
he probably should go somewhere around thirteen fourteen in the draft.
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But I think we're saying with these players that have
had amazing comebacks is the heart and the wherewithal the
know how to understand that it's going to take a
lot more to succeed in the NFL, and therefore you're
getting a lot more fire from these players. Where kids
out of college, it's more of a risk because they're
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coming out thinking they're superstars, not knowing what it's like
to fail on that level. Yet I'd put my money
on that hungry guy. There's such an importance on honestly
getting your right guy at the quarterback position though there's
such a pressure to get it right. And yeah, but
all right, you've said if you were a GM, that
was the question, right, that's how you pose it. If
you were a GM, don't you want to put your
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money where that fire is, that hunger really is because
that dude got overlooked or was in a bad place.
It didn't really get to prove himself. You don't think
that burns inside somebody players like a Justin Fields or
like we said, a Zach Wilson, everyone thinks he stinks. No,
his team's stunk. If you were going to give your
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to somebody, that's really the question. Essentially, you're taking a
chance on how do I how do I get this
franchise back on track? Fox Sports Radio could have hired
anybody three years ago. I think they looked an Rye
and they said, these guys have been overlooked. They're hungry,
they want it, They're gonna work hard. Let's give it
to them. I'm serious, think about it. I think that's
how you make the best decision. You look around who
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wants this the most, who has that fire inside, who's
burning for success and working for it the hardest? And
I think it's going to be the guys like Darnold Mayfield,
Geno Smith. These are all guys that played for weak
gass organizations. Well our buddy Ryan Music Music. You brought
up the good point that in bowl game season, there's
a lot of guys that that because they have a
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couple of good games, all of a sudden, their stock
just rises up in like an absurd percentage. Guys. Guys
have a good bowl game in college basketball happens a lot.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
You see the guys like Shabbaz Napier when he went
on that run with Yukon and then ended up getting
drafted in the first round and you're seeing it a
lot in college. Now with the expanded playoff, you're seeing
guys like at Penn States, Drew Aller or Riley Leonard.
With Notre Dame coming into it, people are like.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Oh, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Maybe they're like a mid round guy, and all of
a sudden, two playoff wins later, they're one of the
last four quarterbacks left and people are like, you know,
he could sneak into the first round. You're like, well,
it's same guy now as he was back in September
and October.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
But I guess people are really just really guessing.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Right, you're trying to take your best educating guests your team,
because now you're saying, let's go the other angle for
a second. Covino, Aaron Rodgers is saying, well, he might retire.
That's the same like he's he's using words that are
insinuating is he going to retire? Or if your team
out there, do you feel like you'd want Aaron Rodgers
on your team?
Speaker 3 (10:53):
You have guess left in the tanks.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Roger and Rodgers is a really specific example, different type
of person, Like do you want that kind of leadership
at this stage of the game?
Speaker 3 (11:04):
If I was a GM.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
I would say probably not because after watching Enigma on Netflix,
I'm like, is his head really in football right now
or playing the bngos? You know, like, that's not the
kind of guy I would want leading my team right now.
And he's earned it and he could do whatever he wants.
The other question with the Jets is should they trade
for JJ McCarthy this offseason? Our old stomping grounds SNY
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was talking about that recently.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
So it's just.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
An interesting choice people have to make now because it's
based on the trend of a Sam Darnold. Would you
take that risk of somebody that still has something to
prove or someone out of college is the question. And
out of college it goes back to what Danny Geoha
often says, you're prisoner of the moment because they just
had a sweet run. Yeah, you know, on a good team,
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on a good team. And I'm not saying JJ McCarthy
is not great. I'm just saying last year we were
very much into at Michigan and Harbaugh and JJ McCarthy.
His stock went way up, and you're seeing what Sam
Donald did this year. There should be no debate. He's
your quarterback. What do you do with JJ McCarthy. I've
said this for years. For real, I feel like I'm
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one of the only people that would say it because
people are so quick to write off quarterbacks, and I
would say, this guy's like twenty three, twenty four, and
you're saying he's done. Hard to say a guy that's
twenty four is done. I know we're not there watching
the scout team, we're not there watching the reps in
training camp. But you're telling me some of these guys
that are drafted early are just done already or do
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they need the Sam Donald Baker Mayfield treatment.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
I think that's it. You put those dudes around the
right people. I mean you have to.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Again, there's intangibles. There really is with guys like Donald,
with guys like Mayfield. Yeah, they're skillful quarterbacks, but they
have a lot of heart. I'll give you three guys.
Tell me if you think any of them end up
in a position where maybe in two years from now
or so, we're saying, see, they just needed the right place.
Daniel Jones, Zach Wilson, justin fields. Is their scenario where
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one of those three guys, yes, is being talked about
the way we're talking about Baker now like, oh the
Baker's Baker's a man.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Now, he's a man. Look at him, he's matured.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
He's in Tampa, and you know, and then you look
back and say, well, you did take Cleveland to the playoffs,
like we've overlooked him the whole time. And then Sam Darnold,
we're looking at him now saying, oh, look, yeah he started.
It was with the Jets and the Panthers, two garbage teams.
At those moments, I think one of those dudes, of
those three, yeah, I think they have the potential to
make it in the NFL, if in the right setting.
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And look how long it took a Geno Smith to
really get the props he deserved.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Look how long he's been in the league.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
We often say this, but we did a TV show
in twenty thirteen on us and why we were talking
about Geno Smith in twenty thirteen and he's on the Jets.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Remember he got punched in the face by a teammate.
And now that took him out.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
You realize, I mean, you knew that he was supposed
to be good, but now you're seeing how good he
really could be on a team that's even not even
that great, right, So it's like, wow, Okay, he found
himself because they gave him a chance. So I think, yes,
the answer if you I think the question is of
those three quarterbacks who've been overlooked or maybe on bad teams,
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which one is the answer, Wilson Jones or Justin Fields? Well,
who would you put your money out there? Or some
young college QB. That's really a question. Rich's posing, Yeah,
how do you figure out what your strategy is if
you're a GM. Now it really is the biggest question
in the NFL because the forty nine ers also created
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the template of well, if you have a really good
team and a young quarterback that fits in a system,
could you try to win before you have to pay him?
Or the veteran And you saw that with brock perty right,
Because now team's like, oh I if I have a
guy that fits into this team. I would say the
Falcons are a good example. You know, Cousins didn't necessarily fit.
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He wasn't necessarily That's another a great guy. I'm glad
you brought him up. I forgot him. So there's rumors
that maybe the Browns are interested in me. The other
you know, extreme of that is forget a guy that's twenty.
How about a guy that's like forty and Aaron Rodgers,
you know, an older veteran like a Kirk Cousins in
his late thirties. Or do you see the rumor that, uh,
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let me ask you. Tom Brady's on the on the
Tom Brady's on the.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Let me ask you. That's real.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Yeah, real question, Yeah, for real, real talk Fox Sports Radio,
Cavino and rich In for Colin on the Herd. Yeah,
you're single. You're not a GM because you're not kiss
what your GM of nothing? I'll take the younger girl
and not to forty year old. Oh I was just
an as That's exactly how the saying, rightdy, you're single?
God forbid?
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Right?
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Your wife finally, I don't know, she bumps her head
and realizes what a creep you are. Thanks, and you
end up alone. Do you put your not your money,
but your heart right in a young woman with all
the potential in the world or an established, older, great
woman that could lead the rest of your life into victory,
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into greatness. Where are you investing your time and heart?
It's kind of the same question the young guy. It's
not the same question A rescue me if I take
a forty woman or a college girl, the young guy
with all the promise in the world right now, the
young guy with all the promise in the world, or
the veteran the Kirk Cousins or the Aaron Rodgers or
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someone that you know could play, you know could lead.
But how many years of how many good years did
they really have left hold on? Is she the female
version of Tom Brady? She like ripped for forty something?
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Hey, dude, I'm serious.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
I'm serious about that because that's a it's an honest question.
It's you could see the good in both, that's really it.
So really, what what's the intangible that helps you make
that decision?
Speaker 3 (16:49):
In reality?
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Right, it's gonna be fit at the end of the day,
it's about well what fits you know, it's we are
feeling it for Colin and he is the king of analogies.
You could also say a lot of NFL stars, there
are a lot of NFL teams that realize that they're
not with their forever person. It's like, you know those
people you date and you're like, I'll date them for
a couple of years, but they're not my I'm not
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marrying them, and you know I'm never gonna marry meeting.
I can't win a super Bowl with this person. That's
a lot of people. But where do you put your
Where do you put your stock? That's a great question.
And by the way, and if the answer was simple,
we wouldn't even be having this conversation. I man, we're
gonna move on in a second anyway. But if your
GM it really is I think Sam Darnold Baker Mayfield, Gino.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
And you look at.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Guys like that and you say I wouldn't go overpaid
old quarterback. I just wouldn't. I don't think that's the formula.
Aaron Rodgers scared me away, Kirk Cousins scared me away.
And nothing against Cousins.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
I like him.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
He's a good dude. Well, okay, I would find that
middle ground guy. It's the compromise, right, the college dude
too risky, too young, too green, too raw, to baby faced,
that dude like Daniel Jones. I feel like, again, there's
more fire there, more to prove, more experience, and you
wouldn't be paying a lot of money for a guy
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like that? Or is that Wilson. I let's go old
guy for a second. Daniel Jones got paid. Put on
your uh, put on your old guy shoes. What does
your dad wear? Rockports? Put on your rock ports for
a second, put on the Nike Monarchs, the ones Mike
tythen wear. If you go with the old guy, it
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sometimes pays off. Tom Brady Tampa, Peyton Manning hold you
got a hold on Samples were two of the greatest
quarterbacks ever though, But I'm saying Brady Okay, Tampa, Yeah,
but Peyton Manning, hold On, Peyton Manning Denver. Then you
can say, all right, Kurt Warner Arizona got close. You
could say Brett Fahr for the Vikings, you know, got close,
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had a good run. There's gonna be a team that
says paying a lot of money for names like that,
that's you're the remember and you brought up two greats.
Let me give you the dumbest scenario because it's unlikely.
But he's a random Friday in for Colin.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Why not? The compromise is that middle ground.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Let's let's say in fields who you think still may
have something to prove. Give me a team with all
the talent in the world. And I say this because
I'm a Niners fan. So it's a homer answer. But
the forty nine ers, yeah, they're sort of ready to
win now. They were hurt this year, but they have
the softest schedule I've ever seen for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Take a look at it, you know, to get a chance.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
If the forty nine ers don't win thirteen games next year,
Kyle Shanahan should be ashamed of himself. They have the
softest schedule I've ever seen ever for twenty twenty five.
Rock Perty's your guy likely to sign a big contract.
But what if you put an Aaron Rodgers on that
team for a year.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Well, you're a.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Fan, would you want that? I think he could do
big things with that team music. I felg, you're not
in your head you would do that for a year.
You don't think Aaron Rodgers and Kyle Shanahan I wouldn't
do it.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
I listen. I don't think it's the craziest thing.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
I'm not a Brock party guy, nothing against him, but
I agree with Colin the other day who said you.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Don't give that car sixty million dollars.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
I agree with Callin when he's like, you don't break
out the check Brock and give brock Perty fix because
I think to your question is what you're approaching with
brock Purty is maybe do you want Aaron Rodgers for
thirty or do you want brock Purdy for the next
four years at sixty? And I would say I would
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rather go Aaron Rodgers. See what you can do in
one year, then have to be fully financially committed to
brock Purty based off of what we just saw.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Sound's ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
But if you give brock Purty fifty sixty million dollars
a year, long term deal versus drafting guy like you said,
there might be a guy I don't know, how about,
like like a dart some guy that you you might
be able to pick up in a later round. Get
a young quarterback, Get Aaron Rodgers for one year with
an aging team that still has it. I don't Debo
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will be back, McCaffrey will be back. You put Aaron
Rodgers in that Chaahan system for less money one year deal,
you might have a Tom Brady buck situation on your hands.
I see that because it's a win now league and
you often talk about the window, right, A team has
a certain amount of time, a little window to make
it happen, and the forty nine ers have had their
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window and they're not getting any younger. So I could
see what you're saying in this particular case, because they.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Have to win now, in the next year or so,
or really.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Never, because there's gonna come a time where they need
to revamp a little bit, right, They're gonna have to
rebuild eventually. So I do see that sort of desperation
move is what it would be because they have to
win now, all right, So your thoughts on that, how
would you do if you were the GM eight seven
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Speaker 3 (23:23):
Rich, CoV I n O.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
You know, the more we think about it here in
the studio, a GM trying to figure out what to
do with the quarterback position is very much like dating
as a single guy.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
In your thirties or forties.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
I'm being that serious, it really is, because the analogies
are so important. Twenty something year old, Oh yeah, there's
a lot of potential, what a pain in the enticing,
but green and priorities are off and they're not really ready.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Yeah they look good. There's a lot of potential, but
they're young. All right.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Then if you're single and out there and about there,
do you want a woman your age? She comes it
a lot. She's in her own ways. Can't teach an
old dog new tricks, right, she's only got a few
good years left. Like we said, Oh look at you,
mister Vane. I'm being real about this, right, it's a
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good analogs for you. So you'd want someone there somewhere
in the middle, with experience, but not too old, not
going to be a pain in the ass.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Established somewhat already.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
You know that middle ground person who just needs another
shot might be the best angle on you've seen it work?
Or has it just coincidenten? Has it just coincidentally happened
a couple times? Meaning is Baker Mayfield think in the
past we've been really quick to write off quarterbacks who've
been in really crappy situations. But Baker, Sam Darnold, Gino Smith, like,
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is it just happened to be coincidence that they're all
sort of working out with an shot. I'm gonna go
back to the one that we were talking about a
few minutes ago. If you're the forty nine ers and
you have the lightest schedule on planet Earth for twenty
twenty five, I said it before, the toughest team on
their schedule is the Houston Texans. Honestly, look up the
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Niners schedule. It is Vegas will set it at twelve
and a half. I bet over under wins if you
don't want to pay Brock Purty fifty sixty million dollars.
If you don't, I feel like they will. I do
as a Niners fan out, I feel like John Lynch
and Shanahan are committed to Purty. But if you didn't
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want to, you drafted a young quarterback and picked up
Aaron Rodgers on a one year deal and put Aaron
Rodgers on his childhood favorite team, the forty nine Ers,
the team he thought he should have been on twenty
years ago. If you put Aaron Rodgers with Debo Kittle, McCaffrey,
ayyuk yus check, you know big Trent walking on the
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left side, you you don't think Aaron Rodgers could have
one last shot at glory, A guy that we thought
stunked the last few years for the Jets based on
what we saw. I would say no to that. I
just feel like he did lose a step. Maybe he
played a little cautious because of the injury year one
off a big injury year, one off of an injury.
But you don't get better as you get older like
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that man off an injury like that, I just I
wouldn't do it. But I understand what you're saying. You
want to win now, so you might want to take
that chance. I would take that chance with the Cousins,
a guy like that. So anyway, your thoughts, So you
think of Kirk Cousins though for the forty nine Ers,
man I always had playing over a Rogers, because to me,
Rodgers looked really dumb this year.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Listen, you could say the same back Cousins. At times.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
I'm just saying I'm not bringing up the Niners solely
because they're my team. It just says very few teams
that are in a position to win maybe next year
that don't have a set quarterback Right now, you'd say
pretty set. But he's you know, as Colin said a
couple days back, it's party the type of guy you
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really think should get fifty to sixty million dollars. I
remember Colin broke it down into three groups. The guys
that like, hey, you gotta pay him. Then there's the
guys where you're like, well, i'll take the phone call,
we'll talk about it probably, and then the guys, as
he said, you hang up on. I as a Niners fan,
I love rock Perty. I think he's a fun young guy.
I love his story a lot. I think he's a
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good dude. Probably he'll talk to him, but I don't
think he should be getting fifty to sixty million. I
said that Daniel Jones Baker Mayfield, like thirty forty something
million is where he should be, but he's not going
to take that by any means. So with that said,
if you've been niners, do you say one year of
maybe a Kirk Cousins or an Aaron Rodgers and draft
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a quarterback to just throw into Shanahan system. You know,
I'm going to go back to another colin Cowhurt saying stars, stars,
stars attract other stars. They do, and there's a lot
of star power on your forty nine ers and maybe
that will.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Attract in Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
So to wrap it up, to wrap it up, I
would say, it's all about that middle ground person in
life and on the field, that's where I would put
my money. But again, it's an interesting conversation. What would
you do? You make the calls? They used to say,
So if you're a GM one of three paths, as
you said, it's not easy to decide nowadays, veteran revamp,
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a guy who's had a couple of years of struggle,
or maybe draft a quarterback too early because it's just
the need you have. These college quarterbacks would be the
equivalent to some social media girl dancing around in her bikini?
Is that the girl you want to invest in? I
know what you're saying, unless it's not. Unless it's like
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the elite one. Yeah, it's enticing. You know, it looks
good in the moment, but is that really where you're
putting your money? If you're a GM, that's the equivalent. Yeah,
so think about it. Yeah it looks good, but I
don't know if that's the answer for your organization. Now,
there's lots more to get to Today. Showed time, Mahomes
trivia Broke Mahomes is stopping by giving away prizes. We
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got trivia. We're gonna talk some Tom Brady, he's in
the news. We're gonna talk about signs you messed up,
signs that you're in the doghouse. All right, Deshaun Watson's
in the news. But there's a guy that I follow
on social media rich and his name is two Toned
(29:33):
the Superstar two Toned to Superstar. I can't that guy
telling to trim downall. He's just, you know, a social
media fight fan, and I'm a fight fan. I'm a
boxing UFC fan, And he's just one of those guys
that goes on these crazy rants.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
He's like, oh, I'm feeling some musty energy.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
Oh, and he'll say something like Canelo's duck and Ben
Evetez and I say that respectful. And he's just a
loudmouth kid, and I like him. I like his fight takes.
And he went on this rant recently about how he
got kicked out of Planet Fitness for wearing crocs, and
I'm sure you didn't see it, So take a listen.
Speaker 6 (30:16):
Planet Fitness, y'all. Some bs bro told me that you
cannot wear crocs. You can't wear crops on the gym
floor in Planet Fitness, the same Planet Fitness that serves
delicious hungry. How he's pizza capture workouts.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
The same Planet Fitness.
Speaker 6 (30:40):
That doesn't allow you to slam weights, the same Planet
Fitness where all the equipment is low key me, y'all
got to get it together. This is where y'all draw
the line at y'all draw the line on crocs.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
My crocs was in sports mode. Wow.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
So he goes on and on and he talks about
his bad experience and they made him go home or
change his shoes. It was not allowed on the floor. Now,
why do we bring this up? I thought I was
cheap going to twenty four our fit. Planet Fitness is
like a rung below that that's like the Spirit Airlines
of I said, this guy was slaying it on social media, right,
A lot of these dudes aren't getting paid. But I'm
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sure he's doing all right because he's flying Frontier but
no uh Soul plane. But I think that it's worth
bringing up because in the next few weeks, you're going
to see a lot of people at the gym, people
you hadn't seen before. And I mentioned the broccoli Heads,
the pack of boys and their official gym uniform of
pajama pants, and it's always those checkered pajama pants.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
It could be their girlfriend's pants. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
My fifteen year old daughter wears the same ones, the
same ones that the boys are wear into the gym.
So these flannel, checkered pajama pants with the tank top,
you know, the real name, we can't say, formerly known
as wife beater until he realized that's not a great
name for a shirt. Yeah, I didn't even want to
say because it's politically incorrec but they'd wear their tight
tank top and crocs on their feet. Now, the question
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is do you find crocs to be okay at the gym?
Can you wear crocs to the gym? I personally have
a stance against them ever in life. I think they're
the weakest looking shoe. But I lost this war because
kids wear them all the time. Right, But do you
think they're okay to wear to the gym? Is the
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question as you see all these new people for the
next few weeks at the gym I own a pair
of crocs.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Sorry to hear that they're good for gardening.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
You and your schoolboy son who picks his nose, you
wear the same. Do you wear velcrow sneakers too, like
a little school boy? But I don't listen. I'm not
gonna wear I'm not gonna wear it wakers and light
shoes as your four year.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Old son because he can't tie his shoes. He has
an excuse.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
I mean, crocs are a great you know, sitting back
by the pool, gardening, running errands around the house.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Should I get it? They're come feet. I've tried them on.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
I'm not I'm not going out for lunch. I'm not
going to work. I'm not going out in crocks. But
I think they're okay at the gym.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Okay. And I'll tell you what.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
I'll tell you why, Because unless you're doing an intense
cardio or you're CrossFit guy or you're doing orange theory
or something. Unless you're doing intense workouts. If you're just
the guy going to the gym and I'm gonna do
arms and bench press today, I think he could wear crocs.
Was kicking you out of a weak ass gym for
wearing crocs, then maybe you're not working hard enough many
angles you had them in sport mode. I sport mode,
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get out, you get the stupid that would imply that
you're wearing this stupid buckle on the back? Yeah the strap?
How lad is this sports mode? That means you're not
really doing any cardio at all. That means you're not
doing any legs at all. And I'm not saying I do.
I'm just saying what kind of workout are you really
getting in your crocs? And you know, aside from esthetically
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being the weakest look ever crocs at the gym, okay
or not? Let us know at eight seven seven for
the herd, because I'm here to tell you it's not
That's my stance. I think it's the weakest. It's not functional,
it's not fashionable, it's nothing. It's nothing positive here crocs
at the gym. I think your take is whack. All right, well,
but what do you care about someone wearing crocs. They're
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not wearing flip flops, and that's dangerous. You could drop
a weight on your foot or something. No, it is
a liability. I would imagine that's why my Planet Fitness
told them that they can't because some dudes at the gym.
He's wearing crocs, like an idiot, and he slides out
of sports mode because you're being held together by a
little rubber band. And he turns an ankle, rolls an ankle.
Maybe he's on the treadmill or something. He's doing some cleans,
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he's doing a set of curls. He loses his balance,
rolls an ankle, and now it's on the gym. The
gym's like, it's never responsible for you. I don't know,
because what we know? Why else do you think Jim's
responsible for you if you get hurt at the gym,
if you get injured, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
I don't know what certain How do you know?
Speaker 4 (34:53):
How do you know that when you sign your coat,
when you saw in your contract for the gym, you
think if you get hurt at the gym, responsible with
the gym, not allow these shoes on their floor because
they don't like how they look. I'm more offended by
people that were like.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Jeans at the gym.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
And I know that's usually a guy that gets caught
up at work and he's like, oh man, I forgot
my shorts. I'm allowed to say this because I'm half Mexican, right,
but it's usually like a foreign guy. You're right about that, right,
he's wearing slacks. He's wearing slacks on the treadmills. If
you're if you're if you're on the PEC deck doing
chest in pants because you forgot your gym shorts. Yes,
I get it. I've done it. I've done it. We've
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all done crocs at the gym. So not a great look.
But I don't see how you could say it's unacceptable.
You know, Danny g agrees with you music. How do
you feel about it. I know you're a proud owner
of Crocs. Absolutely no Crocs at the gym, But not
at the gym, not even not even up for discussion.
I'm with rich that, you know, Crocs I serve a
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lot of purposes. They're actually great for washing the car,
you know, a great example. Yeah, you know, but at
the gym is absolutely blasphemous.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Way.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
You know how many people wash their car in today's world?
Like five?
Speaker 4 (36:03):
Now you need a hard day's work, Okay, wash it
washing the car? You remember days of washing your car?
They're few and far between. It's not as common as
it used to be. Is my point that that just
really doesn't happen as often as it used to. But
I look at it this way too pun intended. I
find it to be a slippery slope because you wear
your crocks at the gym, and then you're like, yeah,
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but I only wear them to the gym. Then you're
wearing them to CVS. Then you're wearing them to the supermarket.
Then you're wearing them out and you look like a
clown and I don't want to hang with you. That's
really it. So and then you have to ask yourself,
are you wearing the uniform of a high school boy?
That's their uniform? Think about it, crocs at the gym.
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I know our buddy Spot has a particular stance on
it too. But he's sleeping this morning. Oh okay, but
he's uh yeah, he's sleeping. I mean we did start
earlier than usual. In his defense or I'm doing my job.
But yes, you're the guy with the hottest take this
and you're sitting there scratching your butt. Hey, listen, we're
gonna get to the big TV game of the week.
We got Deshaun Watson in the news, Tom Brady, a
(37:07):
bunch coming up. CNR in for the Herd here on
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
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Speaker 4 (37:21):
Alright, CNR Covino on rich In for Colin on the Herd.
I want to I want to get back to CrOx
the hot topic of the day. Yeah, but our boy
Ryan is here and he's ready for the Herd Line
newst It turn on the news.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
This is the Herd Line News.
Speaker 4 (37:43):
So good to be with you, guys, Cavino and rich
here on the Herd. All right, let's start things off
with some college football. Only four teams remain, Penn State, Texas,
Ohio State, and now Notre Dame. Two interesting notes on
this first ever twelve team playoff that has unfolded teams
with the zero and four. I'm a big over Conference
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champions over five.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
Now Yeah, per the Athletic SEC Commissioner Greg Sank said
he is quote absolutely interested in changing the current playoff
format for the twenty twenty five season.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
One year and they're already looking at a big change.
You know.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
Well, you saw that in Major League Baseball when they
expanded the playoff.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Some of the high seeds out in the.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
First round, you get cold the end ofmus Yeah, those
adjustments that always need to be made when they change
rules like that. Yeah, look, I think we're actually probably
all on board with this. Obviously, a lot was made
about the structure of the playoff bracket when it was
first announced, and the results thus far seemed to back
up all of those complaints.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
So, you know, Music, you.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Said something earlier today that really was interesting because he
expanded playoff. You've seen some of these players on big colleges,
You've seen them a couple more times in prime time. Yeah,
and that will affect their draft status for sure. Really
will some of these guys play a couple of good
games in the playoff now their stock rises, absolutely? Absolutely?
All right, We'll turn our attention to the pros. Now,
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the New York Jets, Well, they are their search for
a new head coaches well underway, multiple reports today saying
interviewing Mike Vrabel happening to say that's right, the former
Titans head coach who has been with the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
This season.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
His contract with the Browns as a defensive analyst has expired,
so he is free to interview with whoever he'd like,
starting off with the Jets. The Jets have also interviewed
former Panthers and Commander's head coach Ron Rivera, and expected,
although not official, but they are expected to at some
point speak with former Jets head coach Rex Right.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
I love this next. Rex.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
Let me tell you. I saw an article in the
New York Post and it was it was really rude.
It was like the Jets don't need round two of
the class list Rex Ryan, I'm like, how rude?
Speaker 3 (39:55):
I mean, listen, he's rough around the edges. I love.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
Recently he talked about his love of feet. He finally
talked about that. Those hilarious. It was the screen on
his phone.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
Did you see that?
Speaker 2 (40:09):
I do love?
Speaker 6 (40:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
I mean, I mean, if you're a Jets fan, which
I'm not as much as Rex Ryan and Mark Sanchez
didn't get there. They were the closest that team was
to any glory over the last twenty five years. So
I don't think Rex part two is that terrible of
an idea. Listen, vibe. I'll tell you that I do
like Rabel. I think Rabel's like a cool guy. Also, sure, yeah,
(40:31):
I think if you had your number one choice, just
no questions asked. I think most people with the Jets
are even who just follow the NFL, would say, yeah,
you would.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Hire Ray Bramble.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
Yeah, but the idea of Rex Ryan is not bad
because to your point, Look, there was a long article
in The Athletic about all of the stuff that happens
behind the scenes with the Jets with ownership and how
they empower or don't empower the front office, the coaching staff,
and as you pointed out Rich, the one guy who's
been able to manage all of that and have success
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and some pretty decent success in the postseason is Rex Ryan.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
Touch then yeah.
Speaker 4 (41:10):
I wouldn't mind, actually, thank you. So yeah, no, we're
gonna avoid that, all right, wrap it up. At this
AFC Pro Bowl Quarterbacks, the selections are out, and well
it was Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, and of
course people freaking out because Patrick Levon Mahomes the second
for the first time in his seven years as a
starter not selected to the Pro Bowl. Oh what his
(41:30):
coming on is on his page? It won't be a
little star next to that show. Yeah, Son is Pro
Football Reference probably mad about that. We're gonna find out
when we play Showtime Mahomes Trivia later right. One, one
quick note after the slow start to the season, Patrick
Mahomes last six games, eleven touchdowns, zero picks.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
Wow, peaking at the right time to your music. Appreciate you,
but thank you man.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
Well that's the news, the herd Line news.
Speaker 4 (42:03):
So we're gonna do Rich's big TV game of the
week next hour, Rich say, one of our features heading
into the weekend. Plus later on in the show Weekend
Hobnobbing all the things you need to watch in the
world of sports and entertainment, so you know what's going
on when you're hobnobbing at work on Monday when the
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new year officially begins. Right, so what to watch? We'll
go over that, plus trivia and prizes. But your thoughts
on crocs, any final thoughts, any final words Crocs at
the gym. I think going to the gym is already
you know, I had this thought when you see all
the new people take just a step in the right direction,
but you're doing it in a croc, is really a
(42:44):
step in the I think anyone going to the gym
for the first time this week, instead of looking at
them as like an obstacle in a pain in the ass,
a plug them. I mean, like, like, don't you want
them to succeed?
Speaker 3 (42:58):
Like you see some on the treadmill. It's like, get
good for you.
Speaker 4 (43:02):
Good for you, good for you. Just hurry up. All right,
we got more Covino and Rich next in for Colin.
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How are we doing today CNR in for Colin on
the Herd. How you doing? How you doing?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
You do it?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
What's up? Buddy?
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Good morning, Good day line from the West Sun. I'm
Steve Covino. That is Rich Davis again the CNR show
in for Colin on the Herd.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Normally we're on.
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From two to four on the West five to seven
on the East on Fox Sports Radio. But when you say, hey,
you want to fill in for the Herd, absolutely, so
Happy New Year. We have until this weekend to say it, right,
We have until Monday, So Happy New Year. You're gonna
thrive in twenty twenty five, try to survive in twenty
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twenty five, and lots to get to today on the show,
How different would life be if life was incentive based
based on all the games this weekend in the NFL
the player incentives and Rich, like I said, is happy
New Year. We see our buddy Ryan, by the way,
Ryan on the ones and Tuesdaanny g super producing Ryan
(01:26):
music on your updates. Again it's Covino and Rich. But
Ryan on the boards here eating salad for breakfast, pay
salad for breakfast.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Have you've never seen such a thing? He does because
he's on his New Year's resolution? Stir okay healthy, thank you? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:40):
But for breakfast, I mean, like you'vegwhite homelet you know, oatmeal,
r I have a salad. I don't think I've ever
eaten greens before noon, unless you're a bunny. I don't
really see it that often. The only greens Rich has
are the marshmallows and his lucky charms Mike Kelsey mix.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
So based on that, everybody's also at the gym trying
to stay healthy in the beginning of the year. For
the next two weeks, you're gonna see a lot of
people at the gym. What's the stat, Rich, isn't there
a stat? Over ten percent of all gym memberships are
activated on January first? Yeah, so people are trying to
keep their resolution intact. I get it, but you're also
(02:18):
seeing what I call what we call the broccoli heads
at the gym. Lots of teenage boys, the alpaca boys
with their alpaca haircuts, the broccoli heads with their crocs
at the gym. Is this okay or not. We're gonna
get to that. We're gonna play some games, giveaway prizes.
We got show time of homes trivia, so lots to
get to on the Cavino and Rich Show, stick around
(02:40):
and if you got a busy day catching on the podcast.
Like course, I want to tell quarterbacks to start the
show because there's so many there's so many ways to
look at this. We're getting ready for the playoffs. You're
seeing a lot of these young quarterbacks and bowl games.
If you're into college football, and you gotta ask yourself,
if you Steve Cavino, if you Danny g R Music,
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or if anyone listening, if you were a GM of
a football team in the NFL, there's angles to take
from the GM. I wouldn't be hang with you, be
living a life somewhere. It's fair yacht. If you were
a GM on a yacht not hanging with me, there's
ways to go. You could take a swing at some
(03:24):
young college quarterback. You could try to sort of rejuvenate
the failed attempt of some young quarterback lingering in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
That's the way.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Or you could go the way of veteran that's got
a couple of years left in the tank.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
NA. The answer is simple, man.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
You gotta look at the trends, right the trend and
the trend is there's so many good quarterbacks that never
got a proper chance, proper shot. You think of guys
like Geno Smith and Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield, guys like that.
There's plenty of that in the NFL. Guys who've been there,
They've got a chip on their shoulder, they know what
it's like to lead an NFL team, they have some experience, they.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Have things to prove.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
I'd put my money in that than some young, nose
picking college kid who doesn't know what it's like yet.
I feel like success rate seems to be higher with
the guy that has a little more experience in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
And I would take my chances on.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
And I wish I can quote the people I heard
say this, but it's an obvious thought. It was some
podcasts like Two Goons in the room or something like that.
That's probably two goons in a room. When you think
about the trend and you think about players that have
had great comebacks recently, like the ones we just mentioned,
Sam Donald probably be in the biggest answer right now.
(04:40):
The meme of Sam Donald and Baker Mayfield both as Panthers,
and it's like, look at them now, look at them now,
it's an amazing story. We were saying that Sam Donald
looked like a Lego fireman. Now he looks like an MVP.
He looks like both. All right, he looks like an
MVP Lego fireman. But when you think about some of
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these young players and you think about the teams they
played for, the players they played with, the coaches they
played under, you wouldn't give Zach Wilson another shot or
a Daniel Jones another shot. When you think about the
teams and players and coaches they played for. A guy
like Zach Wilson, he played better than Aaron Rodgers did
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with the Jets. Maybe it's not him, Maybe he does
have some juice. Why not take a chance, not pay
that much money for a guy that's proven that he
could win in the NFL, just with a crappy team.
Daniel Jones won a playoff game. Why wouldn't you take
a chance over them as opposed to some young kid
who I always questioned their leadership. You know how hard
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it is for a young, baby faced college quarterback to
come and play with all these men in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Not easy.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
But to quote the theme song to one of your
favorite shows, what be right for you may not be
right for some, may not be right for some. It's
a great song written by Alan Thick.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
I believe it was. It was different strokes.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
I don't know if you could say Sam Darnold and
Baker Mayfield are now the template for how to find
your guy, because that just that might be an illusion.
Like you might say, oh, great ideal, let's go get
Trey Lance. We can fix them. Let's you know, estimate
and undermine setting. You know that applies to not only
football everywhere in life. If you're not thriving where you are,
(06:32):
it might be just because you're in the wrong mix
with the wrong people, at the wrong place, in the
wrong state. Like look at Spotty. Spotty was a slub
in New York. Out here in La in La. He
could be a new man. He is a new man.
He's called Hamilton. I did, Yeah, Hamilton new Yawk. You
can be a new man. And you're seeing a lot
(06:53):
of this in the NFL. Yeah, our video guy spot
way different guy here than when he was on the
East Coast. So setting matters. You see.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Friends and coworkers. Now I'll get again.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
I'm gonna give you the three categories of NFL quarterbacks.
Number One, you could go overshoot and take a swing
at a guy like Danny G.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
You're a Raiders fan. You want Shador Sanders? Do you want?
Speaker 4 (07:22):
I don't hear Danny J. I could just pretend I'm
Danny G. I'll take Shador Sanders. He looks great and
silver and black. Yeah, I wouldn't be mad at Sanders.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Like, ask you something.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
If you're a fan of a team without a quarterback,
is your best bet, Like, let's go after a Shador
Sanders who might not? Is he really a top tier
round one quarterback or is there just such a need
for a quarterback that he sort of just moves up
the board such a need, but such a need realistically,
he probably should go somewhere around thirteen fourteen in the draft.
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But I think we're saying with these players that have
had amazing comebacks is the heart and the wherewithal the
know how to understand that it's going to take a
lot more to succeed in the NFL, and therefore you're
getting a lot more fire from these players. Where kids
out of college, it's more of a risk because they're
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coming out thinking they're superstars, not knowing what it's like
to fail on that level. Yet I'd put my money
on that hungry guy. There's such an importance on honestly
getting your right guy at the quarterback position though there's
such a pressure to get it right. And yeah, but
all right, you've said if you were a GM, that
was the question, right, that's how you pose it. If
you were a GM, don't you want to put your
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money where that fire is, that hunger really is because
that dude got overlooked or was in a bad place.
It didn't really get to prove himself. You don't think
that burns inside somebody players like a Justin Fields or
like we said, a Zach Wilson, everyone thinks he stinks. No,
his team's stunk. If you were going to give your
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to somebody, that's really the question. Essentially, you're taking a
chance on how do I how do I get this
franchise back on track? Fox Sports Radio could have hired
anybody three years ago. I think they looked an Rye
and they said, these guys have been overlooked. They're hungry,
they want it, They're gonna work hard. Let's give it
to them. I'm serious, think about it. I think that's
how you make the best decision. You look around who
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wants this the most, who has that fire inside, who's
burning for success and working for it the hardest? And
I think it's going to be the guys like Darnold Mayfield,
Geno Smith. These are all guys that played for weak
gass organizations. Well our buddy Ryan Music Music. You brought
up the good point that in bowl game season, there's
a lot of guys that that because they have a
(09:44):
couple of good games, all of a sudden, their stock
just rises up in like an absurd percentage. Guys. Guys
have a good bowl game in college basketball happens a lot.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
You see the guys like Shabbaz Napier when he went
on that run with Yukon and then ended up getting
drafted in the first round and you're seeing it a
lot in college. Now with the expanded playoff, you're seeing
guys like at Penn States, Drew Aller or Riley Leonard.
With Notre Dame coming into it, people are like.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Oh, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Maybe they're like a mid round guy, and all of
a sudden, two playoff wins later, they're one of the
last four quarterbacks left and people are like, you know,
he could sneak into the first round. You're like, well,
it's same guy now as he was back in September
and October.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
But I guess people are really just really guessing.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Right, you're trying to take your best educating guests your team,
because now you're saying, let's go the other angle for
a second. Covino, Aaron Rodgers is saying, well, he might retire.
That's the same like he's he's using words that are
insinuating is he going to retire? Or if your team
out there, do you feel like you'd want Aaron Rodgers
on your team?
Speaker 3 (10:53):
You have guess left in the tanks.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Roger and Rodgers is a really specific example, different type
of person, Like do you want that kind of leadership
at this stage of the game?
Speaker 3 (11:04):
If I was a GM.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
I would say probably not because after watching Enigma on Netflix,
I'm like, is his head really in football right now
or playing the bngos? You know, like, that's not the
kind of guy I would want leading my team right now.
And he's earned it and he could do whatever he wants.
The other question with the Jets is should they trade
for JJ McCarthy this offseason? Our old stomping grounds SNY
(11:26):
was talking about that recently.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
So it's just.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
An interesting choice people have to make now because it's
based on the trend of a Sam Darnold. Would you
take that risk of somebody that still has something to
prove or someone out of college is the question. And
out of college it goes back to what Danny Geoha
often says, you're prisoner of the moment because they just
had a sweet run. Yeah, you know, on a good team,
(11:52):
on a good team. And I'm not saying JJ McCarthy
is not great. I'm just saying last year we were
very much into at Michigan and Harbaugh and JJ McCarthy.
His stock went way up, and you're seeing what Sam
Donald did this year. There should be no debate. He's
your quarterback. What do you do with JJ McCarthy. I've
said this for years. For real, I feel like I'm
(12:14):
one of the only people that would say it because
people are so quick to write off quarterbacks, and I
would say, this guy's like twenty three, twenty four, and
you're saying he's done. Hard to say a guy that's
twenty four is done. I know we're not there watching
the scout team, we're not there watching the reps in
training camp. But you're telling me some of these guys
that are drafted early are just done already or do
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they need the Sam Donald Baker Mayfield treatment.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
I think that's it. You put those dudes around the
right people. I mean you have to.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Again, there's intangibles. There really is with guys like Donald,
with guys like Mayfield. Yeah, they're skillful quarterbacks, but they
have a lot of heart. I'll give you three guys.
Tell me if you think any of them end up
in a position where maybe in two years from now
or so, we're saying, see, they just needed the right place.
Daniel Jones, Zach Wilson, justin fields. Is their scenario where
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one of those three guys, yes, is being talked about
the way we're talking about Baker now like, oh the
Baker's Baker's a man.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Now, he's a man. Look at him, he's matured.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
He's in Tampa, and you know, and then you look
back and say, well, you did take Cleveland to the playoffs,
like we've overlooked him the whole time. And then Sam Darnold,
we're looking at him now saying, oh, look, yeah he started.
It was with the Jets and the Panthers, two garbage teams.
At those moments, I think one of those dudes, of
those three, yeah, I think they have the potential to
make it in the NFL, if in the right setting.
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And look how long it took a Geno Smith to
really get the props he deserved.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Look how long he's been in the league.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
We often say this, but we did a TV show
in twenty thirteen on us and why we were talking
about Geno Smith in twenty thirteen and he's on the Jets.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Remember he got punched in the face by a teammate.
And now that took him out.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
You realize, I mean, you knew that he was supposed
to be good, but now you're seeing how good he
really could be on a team that's even not even
that great, right, So it's like, wow, Okay, he found
himself because they gave him a chance. So I think, yes,
the answer if you I think the question is of
those three quarterbacks who've been overlooked or maybe on bad teams,
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which one is the answer, Wilson Jones or Justin Fields? Well,
who would you put your money out there? Or some
young college QB. That's really a question. Rich's posing, Yeah,
how do you figure out what your strategy is if
you're a GM. Now it really is the biggest question
in the NFL because the forty nine ers also created
(14:37):
the template of well, if you have a really good
team and a young quarterback that fits in a system,
could you try to win before you have to pay him?
Or the veteran And you saw that with brock perty right,
Because now team's like, oh I if I have a
guy that fits into this team. I would say the
Falcons are a good example. You know, Cousins didn't necessarily fit.
(14:58):
He wasn't necessarily That's another a great guy. I'm glad
you brought him up. I forgot him. So there's rumors
that maybe the Browns are interested in me. The other
you know, extreme of that is forget a guy that's twenty.
How about a guy that's like forty and Aaron Rodgers,
you know, an older veteran like a Kirk Cousins in
his late thirties. Or do you see the rumor that, uh,
(15:18):
let me ask you. Tom Brady's on the on the
Tom Brady's on the.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Let me ask you. That's real.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Yeah, real question, Yeah, for real, real talk Fox Sports Radio,
Cavino and rich In for Colin on the Herd. Yeah,
you're single. You're not a GM because you're not kiss
what your GM of nothing? I'll take the younger girl
and not to forty year old. Oh I was just
an as That's exactly how the saying, rightdy, you're single?
God forbid?
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Right?
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Your wife finally, I don't know, she bumps her head
and realizes what a creep you are. Thanks, and you
end up alone. Do you put your not your money,
but your heart right in a young woman with all
the potential in the world or an established, older, great
woman that could lead the rest of your life into victory,
(16:03):
into greatness. Where are you investing your time and heart?
It's kind of the same question the young guy. It's
not the same question A rescue me if I take
a forty woman or a college girl, the young guy
with all the promise in the world right now, the
young guy with all the promise in the world, or
the veteran the Kirk Cousins or the Aaron Rodgers or
(16:24):
someone that you know could play, you know could lead.
But how many years of how many good years did
they really have left hold on? Is she the female
version of Tom Brady? She like ripped for forty something?
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Hey, dude, I'm serious.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
I'm serious about that because that's a it's an honest question.
It's you could see the good in both, that's really it.
So really, what what's the intangible that helps you make
that decision?
Speaker 3 (16:49):
In reality?
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Right, it's gonna be fit at the end of the day,
it's about well what fits you know, it's we are
feeling it for Colin and he is the king of analogies.
You could also say a lot of NFL stars, there
are a lot of NFL teams that realize that they're
not with their forever person. It's like, you know those
people you date and you're like, I'll date them for
a couple of years, but they're not my I'm not
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marrying them, and you know I'm never gonna marry meeting.
I can't win a super Bowl with this person. That's
a lot of people. But where do you put your
Where do you put your stock? That's a great question.
And by the way, and if the answer was simple,
we wouldn't even be having this conversation. I man, we're
gonna move on in a second anyway. But if your
GM it really is I think Sam Darnold Baker Mayfield, Gino.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
And you look at.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Guys like that and you say I wouldn't go overpaid
old quarterback. I just wouldn't. I don't think that's the formula.
Aaron Rodgers scared me away, Kirk Cousins scared me away.
And nothing against Cousins.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
I like him.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
He's a good dude. Well, okay, I would find that
middle ground guy. It's the compromise, right, the college dude
too risky, too young, too green, too raw, to baby faced,
that dude like Daniel Jones. I feel like, again, there's
more fire there, more to prove, more experience, and you
wouldn't be paying a lot of money for a guy
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like that? Or is that Wilson. I let's go old
guy for a second. Daniel Jones got paid. Put on
your uh, put on your old guy shoes. What does
your dad wear? Rockports? Put on your rock ports for
a second, put on the Nike Monarchs, the ones Mike
tythen wear. If you go with the old guy, it
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sometimes pays off. Tom Brady Tampa, Peyton Manning hold you
got a hold on Samples were two of the greatest
quarterbacks ever though, But I'm saying Brady Okay, Tampa, Yeah,
but Peyton Manning, hold On, Peyton Manning Denver. Then you
can say, all right, Kurt Warner Arizona got close. You
could say Brett Fahr for the Vikings, you know, got close,
(18:53):
had a good run. There's gonna be a team that
says paying a lot of money for names like that,
that's you're the remember and you brought up two greats.
Let me give you the dumbest scenario because it's unlikely.
But he's a random Friday in for Colin.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Why not? The compromise is that middle ground.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Let's let's say in fields who you think still may
have something to prove. Give me a team with all
the talent in the world. And I say this because
I'm a Niners fan. So it's a homer answer. But
the forty nine ers, yeah, they're sort of ready to
win now. They were hurt this year, but they have
the softest schedule I've ever seen for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Take a look at it, you know, to get a chance.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
If the forty nine ers don't win thirteen games next year,
Kyle Shanahan should be ashamed of himself. They have the
softest schedule I've ever seen ever for twenty twenty five.
Rock Perty's your guy likely to sign a big contract.
But what if you put an Aaron Rodgers on that
team for a year.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Well, you're a.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Fan, would you want that? I think he could do
big things with that team music. I felg, you're not
in your head you would do that for a year.
You don't think Aaron Rodgers and Kyle Shanahan I wouldn't
do it.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
I listen. I don't think it's the craziest thing.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
I'm not a Brock party guy, nothing against him, but
I agree with Colin the other day who said you.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Don't give that car sixty million dollars.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
I agree with Callin when he's like, you don't break
out the check Brock and give brock Perty fix because
I think to your question is what you're approaching with
brock Purty is maybe do you want Aaron Rodgers for
thirty or do you want brock Purdy for the next
four years at sixty? And I would say I would
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rather go Aaron Rodgers. See what you can do in
one year, then have to be fully financially committed to
brock Purty based off of what we just saw.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Sound's ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
But if you give brock Purty fifty sixty million dollars
a year, long term deal versus drafting guy like you said,
there might be a guy I don't know, how about,
like like a dart some guy that you you might
be able to pick up in a later round. Get
a young quarterback, Get Aaron Rodgers for one year with
an aging team that still has it. I don't Debo
(21:01):
will be back, McCaffrey will be back. You put Aaron
Rodgers in that Chaahan system for less money one year deal,
you might have a Tom Brady buck situation on your hands.
I see that because it's a win now league and
you often talk about the window, right, A team has
a certain amount of time, a little window to make
it happen, and the forty nine ers have had their
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window and they're not getting any younger. So I could
see what you're saying in this particular case, because they.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Have to win now, in the next year or so,
or really.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Never, because there's gonna come a time where they need
to revamp a little bit, right, They're gonna have to
rebuild eventually. So I do see that sort of desperation
move is what it would be because they have to
win now, all right, So your thoughts on that, how
would you do if you were the GM eight seven
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Speaker 3 (23:23):
Rich, CoV I n O.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
You know, the more we think about it here in
the studio, a GM trying to figure out what to
do with the quarterback position is very much like dating
as a single guy.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
In your thirties or forties.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
I'm being that serious, it really is, because the analogies
are so important. Twenty something year old, Oh yeah, there's
a lot of potential, what a pain in the enticing,
but green and priorities are off and they're not really ready.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Yeah they look good. There's a lot of potential, but
they're young. All right.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Then if you're single and out there and about there,
do you want a woman your age? She comes it
a lot. She's in her own ways. Can't teach an
old dog new tricks, right, she's only got a few
good years left. Like we said, Oh look at you,
mister Vane. I'm being real about this, right, it's a
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good analogs for you. So you'd want someone there somewhere
in the middle, with experience, but not too old, not
going to be a pain in the ass.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Established somewhat already.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
You know that middle ground person who just needs another
shot might be the best angle on you've seen it work?
Or has it just coincidenten? Has it just coincidentally happened
a couple times? Meaning is Baker Mayfield think in the
past we've been really quick to write off quarterbacks who've
been in really crappy situations. But Baker, Sam Darnold, Gino Smith, like,
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is it just happened to be coincidence that they're all
sort of working out with an shot. I'm gonna go
back to the one that we were talking about a
few minutes ago. If you're the forty nine ers and
you have the lightest schedule on planet Earth for twenty
twenty five, I said it before, the toughest team on
their schedule is the Houston Texans. Honestly, look up the
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Niners schedule. It is Vegas will set it at twelve
and a half. I bet over under wins if you
don't want to pay Brock Purty fifty sixty million dollars.
If you don't, I feel like they will. I do
as a Niners fan out, I feel like John Lynch
and Shanahan are committed to Purty. But if you didn't
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want to, you drafted a young quarterback and picked up
Aaron Rodgers on a one year deal and put Aaron
Rodgers on his childhood favorite team, the forty nine Ers,
the team he thought he should have been on twenty
years ago. If you put Aaron Rodgers with Debo Kittle, McCaffrey,
ayyuk yus check, you know big Trent walking on the
(25:59):
left side, you you don't think Aaron Rodgers could have
one last shot at glory, A guy that we thought
stunked the last few years for the Jets based on
what we saw. I would say no to that. I
just feel like he did lose a step. Maybe he
played a little cautious because of the injury year one
off a big injury year, one off of an injury.
But you don't get better as you get older like
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that man off an injury like that, I just I
wouldn't do it. But I understand what you're saying. You
want to win now, so you might want to take
that chance. I would take that chance with the Cousins,
a guy like that. So anyway, your thoughts, So you
think of Kirk Cousins though for the forty nine Ers,
man I always had playing over a Rogers, because to me,
Rodgers looked really dumb this year.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Listen, you could say the same back Cousins. At times.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
I'm just saying I'm not bringing up the Niners solely
because they're my team. It just says very few teams
that are in a position to win maybe next year
that don't have a set quarterback Right now, you'd say
pretty set. But he's you know, as Colin said a
couple days back, it's party the type of guy you
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really think should get fifty to sixty million dollars. I
remember Colin broke it down into three groups. The guys
that like, hey, you gotta pay him. Then there's the
guys where you're like, well, i'll take the phone call,
we'll talk about it probably, and then the guys, as
he said, you hang up on. I as a Niners fan,
I love rock Perty. I think he's a fun young guy.
I love his story a lot. I think he's a
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good dude. Probably he'll talk to him, but I don't
think he should be getting fifty to sixty million. I
said that Daniel Jones Baker Mayfield, like thirty forty something
million is where he should be, but he's not going
to take that by any means. So with that said,
if you've been niners, do you say one year of
maybe a Kirk Cousins or an Aaron Rodgers and draft
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a quarterback to just throw into Shanahan system. You know,
I'm going to go back to another colin Cowhurt saying stars, stars,
stars attract other stars. They do, and there's a lot
of star power on your forty nine ers and maybe
that will.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Attract in Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
So to wrap it up, to wrap it up, I
would say, it's all about that middle ground person in
life and on the field, that's where I would put
my money. But again, it's an interesting conversation. What would
you do? You make the calls? They used to say,
So if you're a GM one of three paths, as
you said, it's not easy to decide nowadays, veteran revamp,
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a guy who's had a couple of years of struggle,
or maybe draft a quarterback too early because it's just
the need you have. These college quarterbacks would be the
equivalent to some social media girl dancing around in her bikini?
Is that the girl you want to invest in? I
know what you're saying, unless it's not. Unless it's like
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the elite one. Yeah, it's enticing. You know, it looks
good in the moment, but is that really where you're
putting your money? If you're a GM, that's the equivalent. Yeah,
so think about it. Yeah it looks good, but I
don't know if that's the answer for your organization. Now,
there's lots more to get to Today. Showed time, Mahomes
trivia Broke Mahomes is stopping by giving away prizes. We
(29:13):
got trivia. We're gonna talk some Tom Brady, he's in
the news. We're gonna talk about signs you messed up,
signs that you're in the doghouse. All right, Deshaun Watson's
in the news. But there's a guy that I follow
on social media rich and his name is two Toned
(29:33):
the Superstar two Toned to Superstar. I can't that guy
telling to trim downall. He's just, you know, a social
media fight fan, and I'm a fight fan. I'm a
boxing UFC fan, And he's just one of those guys
that goes on these crazy rants.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
He's like, oh, I'm feeling some musty energy.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
Oh, and he'll say something like Canelo's duck and Ben
Evetez and I say that respectful. And he's just a
loudmouth kid, and I like him. I like his fight takes.
And he went on this rant recently about how he
got kicked out of Planet Fitness for wearing crocs, and
I'm sure you didn't see it, So take a listen.
Speaker 6 (30:16):
Planet Fitness, y'all. Some bs bro told me that you
cannot wear crocs. You can't wear crops on the gym
floor in Planet Fitness, the same Planet Fitness that serves
delicious hungry. How he's pizza capture workouts.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
The same Planet Fitness.
Speaker 6 (30:40):
That doesn't allow you to slam weights, the same Planet
Fitness where all the equipment is low key me, y'all
got to get it together. This is where y'all draw
the line at y'all draw the line on crocs.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
My crocs was in sports mode. Wow.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
So he goes on and on and he talks about
his bad experience and they made him go home or
change his shoes. It was not allowed on the floor. Now,
why do we bring this up? I thought I was
cheap going to twenty four our fit. Planet Fitness is
like a rung below that that's like the Spirit Airlines
of I said, this guy was slaying it on social media, right,
A lot of these dudes aren't getting paid. But I'm
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sure he's doing all right because he's flying Frontier but
no uh Soul plane. But I think that it's worth
bringing up because in the next few weeks, you're going
to see a lot of people at the gym, people
you hadn't seen before. And I mentioned the broccoli Heads,
the pack of boys and their official gym uniform of
pajama pants, and it's always those checkered pajama pants.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
It could be their girlfriend's pants. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
My fifteen year old daughter wears the same ones, the
same ones that the boys are wear into the gym.
So these flannel, checkered pajama pants with the tank top,
you know, the real name, we can't say, formerly known
as wife beater until he realized that's not a great
name for a shirt. Yeah, I didn't even want to
say because it's politically incorrec but they'd wear their tight
tank top and crocs on their feet. Now, the question
(32:06):
is do you find crocs to be okay at the gym?
Can you wear crocs to the gym? I personally have
a stance against them ever in life. I think they're
the weakest looking shoe. But I lost this war because
kids wear them all the time. Right, But do you
think they're okay to wear to the gym? Is the
(32:27):
question as you see all these new people for the
next few weeks at the gym I own a pair
of crocs.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Sorry to hear that they're good for gardening.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
You and your schoolboy son who picks his nose, you
wear the same. Do you wear velcrow sneakers too, like
a little school boy? But I don't listen. I'm not
gonna wear I'm not gonna wear it wakers and light
shoes as your four year.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Old son because he can't tie his shoes. He has
an excuse.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
I mean, crocs are a great you know, sitting back
by the pool, gardening, running errands around the house.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Should I get it? They're come feet. I've tried them on.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
I'm not I'm not going out for lunch. I'm not
going to work. I'm not going out in crocks. But
I think they're okay at the gym.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Okay. And I'll tell you what.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
I'll tell you why, Because unless you're doing an intense
cardio or you're CrossFit guy or you're doing orange theory
or something. Unless you're doing intense workouts. If you're just
the guy going to the gym and I'm gonna do
arms and bench press today, I think he could wear crocs.
Was kicking you out of a weak ass gym for
wearing crocs, then maybe you're not working hard enough many
angles you had them in sport mode. I sport mode,
(33:33):
get out, you get the stupid that would imply that
you're wearing this stupid buckle on the back? Yeah the strap?
How lad is this sports mode? That means you're not
really doing any cardio at all. That means you're not
doing any legs at all. And I'm not saying I do.
I'm just saying what kind of workout are you really
getting in your crocs? And you know, aside from esthetically
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being the weakest look ever crocs at the gym, okay
or not? Let us know at eight seven seven for
the herd, because I'm here to tell you it's not
That's my stance. I think it's the weakest. It's not functional,
it's not fashionable, it's nothing. It's nothing positive here crocs
at the gym. I think your take is whack. All right, well,
but what do you care about someone wearing crocs. They're
(34:17):
not wearing flip flops, and that's dangerous. You could drop
a weight on your foot or something. No, it is
a liability. I would imagine that's why my Planet Fitness
told them that they can't because some dudes at the gym.
He's wearing crocs, like an idiot, and he slides out
of sports mode because you're being held together by a
little rubber band. And he turns an ankle, rolls an ankle.
Maybe he's on the treadmill or something. He's doing some cleans,
(34:39):
he's doing a set of curls. He loses his balance,
rolls an ankle, and now it's on the gym. The
gym's like, it's never responsible for you. I don't know,
because what we know? Why else do you think Jim's
responsible for you if you get hurt at the gym,
if you get injured, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
I don't know what certain How do you know?
Speaker 4 (34:53):
How do you know that when you sign your coat,
when you saw in your contract for the gym, you
think if you get hurt at the gym, responsible with
the gym, not allow these shoes on their floor because
they don't like how they look. I'm more offended by
people that were like.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Jeans at the gym.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
And I know that's usually a guy that gets caught
up at work and he's like, oh man, I forgot
my shorts. I'm allowed to say this because I'm half Mexican, right,
but it's usually like a foreign guy. You're right about that, right,
he's wearing slacks. He's wearing slacks on the treadmills. If
you're if you're if you're on the PEC deck doing
chest in pants because you forgot your gym shorts. Yes,
I get it. I've done it. I've done it. We've
(35:31):
all done crocs at the gym. So not a great look.
But I don't see how you could say it's unacceptable.
You know, Danny g agrees with you music. How do
you feel about it. I know you're a proud owner
of Crocs. Absolutely no Crocs at the gym, But not
at the gym, not even not even up for discussion.
I'm with rich that, you know, Crocs I serve a
(35:51):
lot of purposes. They're actually great for washing the car,
you know, a great example. Yeah, you know, but at
the gym is absolutely blasphemous.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Way.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
You know how many people wash their car in today's world?
Like five?
Speaker 4 (36:03):
Now you need a hard day's work, Okay, wash it
washing the car? You remember days of washing your car?
They're few and far between. It's not as common as
it used to be. Is my point that that just
really doesn't happen as often as it used to. But
I look at it this way too pun intended. I
find it to be a slippery slope because you wear
your crocks at the gym, and then you're like, yeah,
(36:25):
but I only wear them to the gym. Then you're
wearing them to CVS. Then you're wearing them to the supermarket.
Then you're wearing them out and you look like a
clown and I don't want to hang with you. That's
really it. So and then you have to ask yourself,
are you wearing the uniform of a high school boy?
That's their uniform? Think about it, crocs at the gym.
(36:45):
I know our buddy Spot has a particular stance on
it too. But he's sleeping this morning. Oh okay, but
he's uh yeah, he's sleeping. I mean we did start
earlier than usual. In his defense or I'm doing my job.
But yes, you're the guy with the hottest take this
and you're sitting there scratching your butt. Hey, listen, we're
gonna get to the big TV game of the week.
We got Deshaun Watson in the news, Tom Brady, a
(37:07):
bunch coming up. CNR in for the Herd here on
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
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Speaker 4 (37:21):
Alright, CNR Covino on rich In for Colin on the Herd.
I want to I want to get back to CrOx
the hot topic of the day. Yeah, but our boy
Ryan is here and he's ready for the Herd Line
newst It turn on the news.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
This is the Herd Line News.
Speaker 4 (37:43):
So good to be with you, guys, Cavino and rich
here on the Herd. All right, let's start things off
with some college football. Only four teams remain, Penn State, Texas,
Ohio State, and now Notre Dame. Two interesting notes on
this first ever twelve team playoff that has unfolded teams
with the zero and four. I'm a big over Conference
(38:03):
champions over five.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
Now Yeah, per the Athletic SEC Commissioner Greg Sank said
he is quote absolutely interested in changing the current playoff
format for the twenty twenty five season.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
One year and they're already looking at a big change.
You know.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
Well, you saw that in Major League Baseball when they
expanded the playoff.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Some of the high seeds out in the.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
First round, you get cold the end ofmus Yeah, those
adjustments that always need to be made when they change
rules like that. Yeah, look, I think we're actually probably
all on board with this. Obviously, a lot was made
about the structure of the playoff bracket when it was
first announced, and the results thus far seemed to back
up all of those complaints.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
So, you know, Music, you.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Said something earlier today that really was interesting because he
expanded playoff. You've seen some of these players on big colleges,
You've seen them a couple more times in prime time. Yeah,
and that will affect their draft status for sure. Really
will some of these guys play a couple of good
games in the playoff now their stock rises, absolutely? Absolutely?
All right, We'll turn our attention to the pros. Now,
(39:08):
the New York Jets, Well, they are their search for
a new head coaches well underway, multiple reports today saying
interviewing Mike Vrabel happening to say that's right, the former
Titans head coach who has been with the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
This season.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
His contract with the Browns as a defensive analyst has expired,
so he is free to interview with whoever he'd like,
starting off with the Jets. The Jets have also interviewed
former Panthers and Commander's head coach Ron Rivera, and expected,
although not official, but they are expected to at some
point speak with former Jets head coach Rex Right.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
I love this next. Rex.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
Let me tell you. I saw an article in the
New York Post and it was it was really rude.
It was like the Jets don't need round two of
the class list Rex Ryan, I'm like, how rude?
Speaker 3 (39:55):
I mean, listen, he's rough around the edges. I love.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
Recently he talked about his love of feet. He finally
talked about that. Those hilarious. It was the screen on
his phone.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
Did you see that?
Speaker 2 (40:09):
I do love?
Speaker 6 (40:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
I mean, I mean, if you're a Jets fan, which
I'm not as much as Rex Ryan and Mark Sanchez
didn't get there. They were the closest that team was
to any glory over the last twenty five years. So
I don't think Rex part two is that terrible of
an idea. Listen, vibe. I'll tell you that I do
like Rabel. I think Rabel's like a cool guy. Also, sure, yeah,
(40:31):
I think if you had your number one choice, just
no questions asked. I think most people with the Jets
are even who just follow the NFL, would say, yeah,
you would.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Hire Ray Bramble.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
Yeah, but the idea of Rex Ryan is not bad
because to your point, Look, there was a long article
in The Athletic about all of the stuff that happens
behind the scenes with the Jets with ownership and how
they empower or don't empower the front office, the coaching staff,
and as you pointed out Rich, the one guy who's
been able to manage all of that and have success
(41:04):
and some pretty decent success in the postseason is Rex Ryan.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
Touch then yeah.
Speaker 4 (41:10):
I wouldn't mind, actually, thank you. So yeah, no, we're
gonna avoid that, all right, wrap it up. At this
AFC Pro Bowl Quarterbacks, the selections are out, and well
it was Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, and of
course people freaking out because Patrick Levon Mahomes the second
for the first time in his seven years as a
starter not selected to the Pro Bowl. Oh what his
(41:30):
coming on is on his page? It won't be a
little star next to that show. Yeah, Son is Pro
Football Reference probably mad about that. We're gonna find out
when we play Showtime Mahomes Trivia later right. One, one
quick note after the slow start to the season, Patrick
Mahomes last six games, eleven touchdowns, zero picks.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
Wow, peaking at the right time to your music. Appreciate you,
but thank you man.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
Well that's the news, the herd Line news.
Speaker 4 (42:03):
So we're gonna do Rich's big TV game of the
week next hour, Rich say, one of our features heading
into the weekend. Plus later on in the show Weekend
Hobnobbing all the things you need to watch in the
world of sports and entertainment, so you know what's going
on when you're hobnobbing at work on Monday when the
(42:24):
new year officially begins. Right, so what to watch? We'll
go over that, plus trivia and prizes. But your thoughts
on crocs, any final thoughts, any final words Crocs at
the gym. I think going to the gym is already
you know, I had this thought when you see all
the new people take just a step in the right direction,
but you're doing it in a croc, is really a
(42:44):
step in the I think anyone going to the gym
for the first time this week, instead of looking at
them as like an obstacle in a pain in the ass,
a plug them. I mean, like, like, don't you want
them to succeed?
Speaker 3 (42:58):
Like you see some on the treadmill. It's like, get
good for you.
Speaker 4 (43:02):
Good for you, good for you. Just hurry up. All right,
we got more Covino and Rich next in for Colin.
It's the hurd Friday. Let's go
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