August 12, 2025 • 38 mins
Dan Beyer & Kerry Rhodes, in for Covino & Rich, talk about MLB avoiding the NFL in their World Series scheduling and whether or not the NFL could ever get too big for it's own good, Michael Porter Jr has some thoughts on people gambling in sports, an NBA schedule conspiracy, and more!
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Chris Burfett, Technical producer, Hi and Isaac Lohenkron at the
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news desk. What's going on? I love hey, Carrie, Hi
dam So Isaac just just ended up wrapping up with
a headline talking about the NFL and Major League Baseball's
world's kind of colliding is the World Series has released
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their schedule for October and the World Series. The first
headline was the World Series is not going to do
a flex start. That doesn't mean anything. All that means
is this is they're gonna set up. They're gonna start
on a set date. That's what it means. And that
set date is Friday, October twenty fourth. There was the
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thought Kerry, if the League Championship Series ended early, maybe
they won't want the World Series early, so there wasn't
as much leg time. They're not going to do that.
They're just going to say, hey, October twenty fourth, Friday,
that's when Game one of the World Series is going
to be. And the reason why I think it's very
newsworthy and noteworthy is because of all of the dominoes
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that follow that. So then Game two gets to be
played on Saturday, and then Sunday day off for travel.
Then they play Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday day off for Thursday nights, Friday,
Saturday and the series is wrapped up. They completely carry
have avoided the NFL sans a Monday night football game.
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They've ditched both Sundays that could have conflicted depending on
when the series would start. And they also, because of
the off day, have started to avoid a Thursday night
where you could have the game on Amazon maybe outright
the National Football League, but it is it's amazing to
me to see the power of the NFL because now
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Major League Baseball is really dealing with it at its
full extent, where they're saying, our biggest product, the World Series,
we are going to do everything we can humanly possibly
do to avoid going up against any NFL game in
the middle of their season.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
So what you're telling me right now is America's past time?
Is now past time?
Speaker 3 (03:18):
You like that?
Speaker 5 (03:19):
I like that, I'm here laws from the audience, I'm here.
I'm here all day.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I mean, if you want, they are standing for carry Rhoades.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
I mean, you know, I like to thank my mom
c gave birth to me.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
And now I'm hearing this moment.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
You know, a lot of things happen, but right now
I'm in the space. But no, seriously, it's about that
we know that right now, football is overtaking every other
sport here in America, right and so if you can
avoid those those conflicting times, it was smart by baseball.
I don't want to say they were scared. I'm not
going to say that. I'm gonna say they were smart
with the way they scheduled it. But again, football is
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here to stay. It's a power. Good on, Good on
Baseball for doing it.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I want to get I want to get into the
because this actually, as this water fall of information trickles down,
it goes into other things. It goes into college football,
that goes into holidays, it goes into our lives.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
Right.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
But just kind of a general question on that and
to what Roger goodellas said to their competing do you
foresee a time in the next twenty years where football
takes a step back, the next twenty years where we're like, hey,
what's going on with the NFL as this business model?
(04:33):
I think twenty years is a good window. Hopefully, Knockunwood,
both you and I are here to look back at
the throw point, right, But do you think in the
next twenty years at any point you could see the
NFL maybe just get too big? And take a step back.
I don't think so.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
And the reason I say that is because of it's
had ample opportunities for that to be the case. We've
had legal things, We've had former NFL players fighting the
league to get money, and head cases and all. I mean,
it's been so much that's been kind of encased in
I guess the demise for the demise of the NFL,
and it just hasn't happened. I think we as humans,
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as Americans, we sit here and whenever we get a
chance to get a break from reality, we get a
chance to watch guys go out there and kill each
other on the field and make impressive plays.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
We're all for that.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
And I think it's just been proven that no thing
outside of that sport can actually make that ship sink.
And so, I mean we've had things where NFL PA
guys are making money on the side and taking advantage
of the situations. So it just I don't see it
being a viable option.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
I know that, Yeah, the Players Association probably wants more
of that pie would I look at and I just
look at the NFL. I remember a long time ago
when you would go to NFL dot com and you
would have to click on certain tabs, You'd have to
click on certain hole down menus and things, and the
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things that I'm talking about, specifically fantasy football. You would
have to search to find stuff with fantasy football. And
now the NFL in a way is throwing it at you.
Here's fantasy football. I feel fantasy football within the last
ten or fifteen years gave the NFL such a lifeline
because it's become so huge. And we had COVID five
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years ago in the NFL coming back as normal as
it could be, even though it didn't have fans, but
our Sundays were back being It was such a huge
boost at a time when you know we're also in
a spot where there's a lot of stuff going on.
Prior to that was the Colin Kaepernick situation where you
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have people saying I'm not going to watch the NFL
like I feel like COVID almost gave them a new
life in that aspect. And then now was sports betting
and gambling being illegal in states, it's given another level.
We at the news desk where Isaac Lohenkron is sitting,
I was talking with one of our anchors this weekend
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and I said, it's crazy because you think that you
could get by just bringing stats for preseason games, because
that's really all that mattered. How should our Sanders do right,
How did quin Ewers do with the Dolphins? How did
you know to Ado in that game against the Bears?
All of that stuff is relevant, But people now bet
on preseason games, so we almost have to give the
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score because that's what people want to know. Did their
pick cover the spread at that point in what is
a meaningless preseason game when nobody knows the players. So
even in these times where we think it can take
a step back, it gets this this jolt of energy,
and I just am wondering what's the next jolt of
energy to come along to continue the NFL in this
dominant force where they've taken away Christmas Day from the NBA,
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and now Major League Baseball is scheduling the World Series
around what the NFL is doing, and that previously wasn't
the case.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Just think about this. They've changed so many things regarding
the rules, player safety, the physicality in the game. You thought, okay,
defenses can't hit anybody. That's gonna take people away from
the game. Nope, we're going to change the kickoff rule
and take away the exciting part of special teams, and
you know, make them have to fair catch it and
get the ball the thirty yard line to target, like
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all these things that you have to learn again as
a fan, that that didn't set it back, Like, I
don't see there being anything or I mean, right now
they're working on the computer thing where you can just
look at the screen and see what the first down is.
Like all these gimmicks and things they're trying to add
to enhance it, some of them are really stupid. Sure,
it just and it does not take away from the game.
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So I just don't know if it will ever be
a time that happens.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
There's so many different ways to enjoy it. Yep, they're
probably going to add an eighteenth game at some point
or another. I know, as crazy as it is, man,
I don't even I thought at one point that that
could be the bubble burst, because I do think seventeen games.
I don't think people realize how long that it actually is.
I thought that the extra week has added quite a bit.
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Now if you go at eighteen weeks, you're likely going
to have multiple bye weeks. So now you're adding not
only another regular season game. You're adding on another week,
so it's going to take up much of the calendar.
But I think, for whatever reason, I don't think it's
going to have an effect on how people watch and
how people consume, and they'll just continue to want more
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and more and more and more. Where to your point,
Major League Baseball is like, Okay, let's have a pitch clock,
you know, let's let's do this, Let's have you know this,
this base be bigger, let's try to do that. You know.
The NBA has tried to fight it, and now I
think they're just almost at the mercy of whatever the
NFL does, you know, wants to do on say, a
holiday like Christmas, And they prove that they can play
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on Wednesday last year. So when that happens in the
next calendar year, the next eight years, or whenever we
get another Wednesday, we're going to have it. But it's
no matter what the NFL does, it turns to gold.
While all these other leagues are just fine trying to
find ways to keep their head above water.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Do you think there's gonna be a football game every
day of the week at some point?
Speaker 1 (10:11):
No, Okay, I think that would hurt them and I
will also say this because this is the part of
this World Series schedule. I'm glad that you brought that
up because people do have lives in the fall. People
have lives every season, but fall is different to schools
in session. It's just a different feel. I also feel
that Friday night football, which is brought up because now
(10:36):
the NFL is saying, oh, we'll play on Friday night
of a season opening game, people are like, wait a second.
Like last year when the Packers played the Eagles. Yeah,
back home in Wisconsin, it was crazy to see people
being like, oh, are you going to watch the Packer game?
Are you going to go to the local high school game?
And I would imagine it's probably the same around the
(10:57):
Kansas City area and in Missouri this year, of like
are you gonna watch the Chiefs on Friday Night in
the season opener? Are you gonna go to the local
high school game? The NFL don't care, doesn't matter, and
high schools usually are wrapped up by Thanksgiving anyway for
high school football, so like a Black Friday game doesn't
necessarily matter. But the NFL has shown that they'll go
to those spots. I just think going to every single
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day would just be too much. Then there isn't that
specialty of Sunday, even though Sundays got a little less
oomph as it you know, maybe had ten years ago.
But I think every single day would be a little
too much. It's wait too much.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
But I mean just right now, where we got a Monday,
we had.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
A Thursday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Saturday games in the in
the yeah not too far yeah, early winter, Yeah, taking over.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
They will conflict with the college football playoff. They don't
care about that. They are full steam ahead. Did that?
Did that mess with you as a player, having the
different days of playing and playing on a Thursday, maybe
a play on a Monday in a short week.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
Yes, Thursday, Thursday is tough. I mean if you play
a game on Sunday and which which has happened? You
play Thursday and you come back and play I mean
Sunday and you come back and play Thursday.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
It's just ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
I mean for an older guy, Sunday, you play the
game Monday Tuesday like you're legit, you're in recovery mode.
But when you're getting ready to play a game Thursday,
you gotta be a recovery slash getting ready to play,
and it's a lot we played. We played a game
when I was in Arizona against the car against the
Rams when they were still in Saint Louis, and we
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played at home, so we had to travel. Obviously, we
had to travel to Saint Louis. You have that short week,
you have that travel as well. It's just we stood
no chance. We got blown out and we didn't even care.
It was like, yep, we lost. It's almost like the
NBA with the scheduling loss. That's what it comes down
to when you when you do Sunday to Thursday, when
you have.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
A back to back and you're just kind of like,
all right, we just need to win one of these two.
We're gonna hunt on the other one and just move
on from that. It is it is a complete I mean,
is a please take over by the NFL. I'll make
this note about the World Series. I don't know if
the guys want to jump in or out. Let me
know if you do the World Series. And I looked
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this up and a producer, Bo Benson was with me.
I said, I can guarantee you I will look thirty
years ago and there will not be a Sunday night
football game scheduled in mid to late October because of
the World Series. So we just took nineteen ninety three,
looked it up. Sure enough, October seventeenth, nineteen ninety three,
there was no Sunday night football game because that night
(13:31):
carry was Game two of the World Series between the
Phillies and Blue Jays, and the year prior, when the
Blue Jays faced the Atlanta Braves, there was no Sunday
night game because the NFL said Major League Baseball, we're
not competing with that. We do not want to compete
with the World Series. Now, there could have been a schedule,
and I think there may have been some points where
there was a Game seven that could fall on a
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Sunday and you would have a conflict because of an
ESPN Sunday night game because that's when football aired on
Sunday night, and TNT actually had some Sunday night games
as well. Wow, there was yeah, crazy enough. Yeah, you
didn't even know that.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
But the NFL had one weekend whether we're not going
to do a Sunday night primetime game to conflict with
Major League Baseball. Then they said, well, we don't care
about Major League Baseball. We're just going to schedule anyway.
Now it's just completely done a one eighty where Major
League Baseball has to change their schedule, Carrie. It was
in twenty twenty two the Major League Baseball started the
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World Series on a Friday for the first time since
nineteen fifteen. It was over one hundred years where they
had their schedule, like starting on a Friday. Mix You're
in the media business, Yeah, Friday night TV, and it's
not TGIF anymore with ABC, Like you want to be
in the primetime windows of like Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Like
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Friday night's not a great night for TV. Major League
Baseball says, well, that's how we avoid the NFL, Like
that's how which they've taken it over.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Isaac longcrom Yeah, you bring up a really, really great
point because if you go back the famous nineteen eighty
six World Series between the Mets and the Red Sox
with Buckner and Stuff, Game seven of that World Series
was rained out on a Sunday, so it was actually
played on a Monday night at the same time as
Monday Night Football, and the World Series outdrew Monday Night
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Football by a factor of three, so three times as
many people watched Game seven of the World Series as
compared to Monday Night Football. And I honestly think that
if that happened like this year, it might almost be
completely reversed.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yeah, I think you're right. Even if it was you know,
the Titans and Patriots like like, we're still like, like,
let's see how Cam Moore does Mike Vrabel's revenge. Like,
we will talk ourselves into anything to make anything exciting
in the National Football League, even if it comes at
the expense of another sports or the sports marquee event
(15:57):
in that being the World Series. Bo Benson, would you like.
Speaker 7 (16:00):
To know the NFL games that Major League Baseball is avoiding?
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yes, yes, please?
Speaker 7 (16:05):
Week eight Sunday, October twenty sixth is Packers at Steelers. Yep,
So I can see why they would want to avoid that,
And then theoretically November two would be Seahawks at Commanders.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah. Well, of course everybody wants to see Sam Carnald.
They are not gonna mess with that. Yeah. The Packers, Steelers,
I mean, the Brewers run the World Series. They meant
and even show up, and they've you know, I haven't
been there since eighty two, they may stay home and
watch the Packers. Just kidding, but that is that's that's
a very fair point, wow of the marquee matchups, and
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plus that's you know, a prime spot late October, you know,
in the thick of the fall, Pittsburgh and the Packers. Yeah,
Major League Baseball says, no thanks, We'll start on a Friday.
We'll have Game six, maybe end on a Friday. It's
it's just amazing on how dominant the National Football League
can be.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
The crazy part about watching that game, watching the World
Series game on a Friday, you can be out. You
don't need sounds, so no worries. Yeah, it'd be the
NFL game.
Speaker 7 (17:10):
That the World Series will compete with is Monday Night Football,
October twenty seventh. Commanders at Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Well, we know there won't be any conflict with the
Royals and Nationals playing, so there will be no local
mix up there. But all of the non partial fans
for those markets can have their choice of the NFL.
They won't be directed towards one way or the other.
That's yeah, gosh, that have to be a really really
good game. Chris Purfett I.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Just I'm always amazed at what and I've always tried
to pinpoint when exactly that flip happened, where it's like
the NFL had to avoid Baseball, but now Baseball has
to avoid the NFL. I think we just kind of
take for granted just that the NFL has been dominant
for so long, but it's just used to not be
that way, and it just it's fantastic how it's flipped.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
I don't know if or maybe Isaac can even track
down when the NFL started to schedule a Sunday night game.
I know I looked on Pro Football Reference to find
the nineteen ninety three regular season schedule, Yeah, to find
out because I knew they didn't schedule a Sunday night game.
It was a weird thing because you would have six
weeks of games and then all of a sudden, you'd
be like, wait, there's no Sunday night gam You'd be like, oh,
that's because the World Series is going to be on.
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But so at some point the NFL said, like, we're
not going to be taking off a World Series night anymore.
Speaker 7 (18:26):
Grain of salt, but Google AI says twenty ten.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Okay, all right, So but it's kind of recently.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
It's kind of like with the Christmas Day game for
the NBA, it's like, all right, well we don't you know,
we'll'll watch out for that. But all of a sudden
something flipped in the NFL. It's like, wait a minute,
we could have this one too.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
And not to get too into the weeds here, but
in about two thousand and five, the NFL made a
dramatic change to its TV package when they got Sunday
Night Football back to NBC and they moved Monday Night
Football from ABC to ESPN. And what happened was is
the prime time event that would get the better matchups
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was moved from ABC's Monday Night Football to NBC Sunday
Night Football. That's when Madden went over to NBC. So
by that time that started the domino of Sunday Night
Football getting the prime time number one scheduling matchup when
it used to be on Monday nights. So that I
think was a symptom of what happened in twenty ten
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because you were getting better matchups.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
But it also has to come with again that symptom
of like the NFL thinking to itself, wait a minute,
we no longer have to compete with baseball. We own
this spot. This is not something where Baseball can even
hold a candle to us anymore. We own this time.
Baseball has to count owt to us.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Yeah, it's a takeover and hobnestly. I'm sure Major League
Baseball avoided that Monday night game because of a Saturday
Sunday start, but there almost seemed to be like a
bit of a friendly agreement between the sides. And I'm
not even sure maybe Isaac would even know this, but
I mean, there was a time where the World Series
was on ABC and then you would have ABC Monday
Night Football, so there could be conflicts in that way
(20:02):
as well. But I do know that the NFL did
keep that window open and they wouldn't schedule games. And
then when they're TV partners, maybe in a new TV deal,
maybe that's when it was in twenty ten, they said
all right, we'll just start the schedule games and they
ended up completely taking it over.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Yeah, the last time ABC had a World Series was
a one off in nineteen ninety five. The last time
they were regularly part of the rotation was in nineteen
eighty nine. But you guys brought up a really interesting
other thing that made me remember this. Maybe it was
two or three years ago when Joe Buck was the
lead voice of the NFL and also the lead voice
of baseball on Fox before he moved to ESPN. He
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actually was put on an NFL regular season game instead
of Game seven of the National League Championship Series one year,
and that never would have happened.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Yeah, you're right, You're right, And I'm kind of just
scrolling through as we're talking here. I'm up to I
think Bo's number is about right because I got to
two thousand and four, and again there was no Sunday
night game that was scheduled that weekend for the World Series.
I'll say this, and I'm looking at a screen right now,
and I think where on the Big Ten network it
as the Iowa Football preview. This doesn't like the NFL
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is super powerful and the NFL can do what it wants,
and you would think that maybe it's the sport of football.
But when Fox recently said we're going to put Big
Ten games on Friday night, you would not have believed
the uproar in places like Iowa, my home state of Wisconsin, Illinois,
where high school football. I think high school football in
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any state is a big deal Alabama. But yeah, absolutely so.
I don't even want to say it because it's not
a Midwest thing. The only reason I bring it up
is because it's Big Ten football and now they we're
going to be moving Big Ten games to Friday nights.
And when you have, like say on Iowa team that
has eight home games a year, you build your weekend
about that. You don't want it to conflict with your
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high school football matchup that's going on in those towns.
So there is more uproar about like Fox trying to
put college football on a Friday night than there ever
has been of the NFL trying to take over the FEL.
Just as his bull bowzer and moves everybody like, I
felt like Fox and the Big Ten got more pushback
from all these high schools and other communities because of
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the TV package because they started to play some Friday
night games.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
Yeah, no, it's it's absurd. I mean, obviously, it's a
money thing. It's a money it's not even just the
dominance thing. It's we can do this, we want to
make money. We're going to continue to make money at
an absurd clip, and you're going to be on board
with it. It doesn't matter what we do. And I think
that's the moral of the story.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Guys, if you.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
Get money and you get power, use it. And they've
used it very well.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
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Speaker 9 (25:34):
Think about it. If you could get all your homies
rich by telling him, Yo, ten thousand dollars on my
under You know this one game, I'm gonna act like
I got an injury. I'm gonna sit out, I'm gonna
come out after three minutes and they all get a
little bad because you did it one game like that
is so not okay. But some people probably think like that.
They come from nothing and all their homies have nothing,
and they're like, Bro, if I come out of this
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game after three minutes and y'all all hit on my under,
we're all getting a little bag.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Yeah. Well that's the problem. That's why they get flagged
for irregular betting, because who's going to bet on the
Jonte Porter under or the Terry Rose year under if
you're getting hundreds of thousands of dollars? Like I get
the thought process. You want to help out your guys
and you don't want it to come out of your pocket.
Why not have it come out of somebody else's pocket. Yeah,
(26:23):
I just don't think that you're saying that out loud.
And that's what's so shocking for Michael Porter Junior especially.
I guess he's trying to stand up for his brother
in a way. That's a weird way of doing it.
When you're still playing in the NBA.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
Stop trying to be cool and stop saying nonsense on
podcast like that's official media now, Like people think they're
sitting in podcasts having a conversation with their friend and
it's not going to get out to the world. And
it's like, dude, you're in the NBA. We already have
our own claims and feelings about you know, some of
the games, and when you bet the under and the
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team scores at the last second because they know that
the unders whatever they underheads like you're all you're doing
is substantiating that claim for us. And so for me,
when these players come out and say these things, I
just want to I literally I want to slap them,
like I want to slap some sense in them and
be like, look, listen, we know that we know how
you feel, and we know that we have these conversations
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at home or whatever thing may be. But this is
still a national medium now. Podcasts are out there for
the world to consume. And so when you say things
like this, and especially a guy like Porter who hasn't
really reached his potential, his capability capabilities as a player,
like focus on that. Stop being cool and saying the
things that you think people want to hear, because that
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just doesn't fly.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
It doesn't sit well.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
And then with your teammates, like if you're on your
team and you're trying to go out and win a game,
and you know that this person may have the capabilities
of telling this homeboy, look, I'm going to get the
under tonight, so bet on this.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Like that's crazy to me. I'm gonna play Devil's advocate.
I'm gonna play Devil's advocate. Okay, Stray diffident because I
think these comments are what But I will say when
we just talked about twenty minutes ago about scheduling and
talking about back to back games of the NBA and
teams throwing away a game, just being like, all right,
well we're not going to throw in the towel. There
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wouldn't be much harm in that. If you're Jhonte Porter
and saying, well, this is a game where I'm getting
minutes anyway, because all the starters are resting, they're not
playing the back to back, this would be the opportunity
to do that. So if you're likely going to lose
anyway because the team's kind of thrown in the towel,
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wouldn't this be a way to get your guys some cash.
I think it's absurd. I'm just like saying, like we
think of the sanctity of the game, and we held
it to this high regard. But again, if you're going
in on a back to back saying you're not going
to win one of the games anyway, then you know,
is it really held in that high of a regard.
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If teams are folding just to try to keep their
players healthy.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
Well, the thing is, you're not going into that game
saying you're not going to win, now, you just you're
being honest with where you stand and where you are
as a team. Right, you played on Sunday and you're
going to Thursday in Saint Louis to play a game,
and all of us are banged up, Like it's a
high probability that it is going to be tough to
get a win.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
I think it's a different story. Yeah, I think it's
a different story in the NBA when you see those
graphics when you're like, oh, it's gonna be one of
these nights when you have five new starters and you're like, well,
he have ages two points a game, why is he
starting at the four right? So like in that game,
like it's kind of already a lost cause for the team.
They're probably gonna get blown out anyway. I'm not advocating
any of this, it's not I'm just I'm just trying
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to say, Like we sit there and we say, like,
the people who are getting screwed in this scenario that
Michael Porter Junior is talking about are are the sports books? Yes,
that as well. Like in that situation, the fans have
already found out their team is going to lose because
they're playing five reserves guys who never get minutes, and
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a couple of guys that get called up from the
If they were to happen to win that game, it
would only be a bonus, but fans would normally take
that as a loss. In fact, the organization would take
that as a loss. The people that are getting screwed
are the ones that are the sportsbooks who have to
pay out that money that everybody loaded up on because
they knew so and so was going to duck out
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with a low total.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
Well what makes me upset about it for real, though, is,
like I said, Michael porter jun is a really really
he's a good player in the league, right, And so
I mean you go onto a game and you're expecting,
you know, him to come out and play the way
up to his potential. And then you have these nights
and obviously these knights happen organically, but now that always
brings a question is it happening organically or is he
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telling his homeboys to bet the under tonight? And so
that part of it, just the conflicting ideologies of it,
just doesn't really sit well with me at all.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
It doesn't sit well with people as well. As I'm
no longer playing Devil's advocate, I will step out of
that role.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
Get out of their dance.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Stop it. It doesn't sit well when Michael Porter has a
five year, one hundred and eighty million dollar deal, Nope,
and it's talking about getting his guys ten thousand, right,
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
It's it's ludicrous to talk about like you can.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Just give him twenty grand and then if to bet right,
that's it.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
Yeah, So you're gonna try to beat the system and
try to do this thing that you think is kind
of cool and slick. And that's the part of.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
He says the things that we talk about, Yeah, we
talk about amongst ourselves who are not in the game, right,
And that's where the line was crossed.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
Yes, he's in the business. How can you say that
when you're in the business and you're in the business
of winning and doing your job to the best of
your ability.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
I know you're not on Blue Sky I am at Empire,
but are you on TikTok? You're not on TikTok I am.
I think all of us here are, at least in
some form. My favorite, it's one of my favorite tiktoks
is the guy who put all of his life savings
on red. You've seen that on Roulette from like probably
(32:00):
like nineteen ninety three or something like that, and it's
it's got people around him. Guy at one hundred and
thirty thousand dollars put it all on red and he
hits like that's but that is kind of also the
thinking of of of the gambler and all of this
is you just think, well if I hit this one yep.
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And for these guys, they're like, well, this is the
sure thing, then my life can change. And so there's
a way that their life could change if Michael Porter
Junior gave them one hundred thousand dollars of his one
hundred and eighty million dollars. It's not life altering money,
but it sure would help out in that situation, but
like there's always that this is this is why people
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like go down that rabbit hole. The only the only
people outside of the sports books that would be screwed
would be the people who bet the over on those nights,
and those people have a reason to be really mad
at Michael Porter June.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
Exactly, and again ten thousand. A straight up bet of
John Say Porter or Michael Porter whoever getting younder isn't
going to change his life anyway.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Yes, it's it's crazy.
Speaker 7 (33:08):
Can I just point out how extremely funny it is
that he said some people think like that, and he's
literally just talking about his own brother, y right, Yeah,
those are the people.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
By the way, in a glowing fashion, like looking out
for his boys, Like some people think like that. You
can talk about crazy stuff amongst your friends, and like,
you know, you're like, like, hey man, some people think
like that. I don't know how they do it. That's crazy.
But yeah, to his brother, and it's done in a
good way. Usually it's like a an off putting sort
of weird way.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
And he's not doing it for He's not just doing
it for his brother. His brother isn't even that paid yet,
so he's probably doing it for his brother as well.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Kind of they said, could anybody say this except a Porter,
Rogier or Beasley? Right, anybody else could say this? And
when you know, Michael Porter Junior is the one does it.
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schedule releases, the leaks that have been coming out.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
I got a couple, you know, there's a couple of
the Dallas and sentence a Yo game one that stuff
paid attention to.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
That that's a Wednesday night opener, part of the ESPN
package that Wednesday night, Thursday night opener on ESPN Wednesday,
it will be Cavs and Knicks. Spurs and MAVs follow that.
Then on Thursday it's Oklahoma City and the Pacers in
a finals rematch, and then Denver and Golden State. Last
week we had the news that the opening night on
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NBC would feature the Rockets and Thunder and Warriors and Lakers,
and then we had the Christmas matchups as well. Coming
out what I thought it was interesting with the Christmas
matchups was that it was so heavily dominated by the
Western Conference. There's just one Eastern Conference game, and that
Eastern Conference game is Cavaliers and Knicks. You know what
I dare we may have to get the stager out
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Bo Benson for what I'm about to say, because as
the more I thought about it, the more I realize
this falls under the umbrella of we.
Speaker 11 (36:13):
Watched twenty twenty five. I'm watched twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Why are the Cavaliers so highly regarded in these matchups?
I know they were the number one seed, but I'm
not dying to watch Cavalier basketball. Giannis is still in Milwaukee,
Desmond Baine was brought in by Orlando, and now you
have the Magic as a legitimate team. I don't care
what you say about Boston. There's still the Celtics, even
(36:38):
if Jason Tatum is injured, and you have the seventy
six ers. Be the seventy six ers. Why is the
NBA shoving the Cavaliers down our throat when no other
Eastern Conference team outside of the Knicks is seemingly getting
any run. The reason is this, This is the reason I.
Speaker 11 (36:57):
Watched twenty twenty five. I'm watched twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Lebron somehow ends up in Cleveland between now and late September,
they will have their bases cover out. That's what you're thinking.
It's the only reason why they're shoving Evan Mobley and
Spider Mitchell down our throats. That's gotta be the only
reason why that just maybe Lebron will leave and be
a member of the Cavaliers. I know the East is
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gonna stink, but you put the Bucks out all the time,
when when Damian Lillard wasn't there anyway, and Giannis was
the star. He's still there again. Orlando's a good team.
The Pistons, Yes, you know, why won't you put the
Pistons on one of these games? Instead? They're giving us
the Cavaliers. And that's why I think even the NBA
is thinking that there could be a possibility that Lebron
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doesn't play for the Lakers.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
And I'm gonna write this now right now. The fact
that you're you've been on is you said that would
be the only place that would make sense for him
to go. You've said that a couple of times. I've
heard you myself. I think i've said it as well.
It panned out that way, would it also be a
little losing as well.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
I don't know, but that's never stopped the NBA before.
I never stopped before. It's just it's amazing to me
that they feel like we have this this crazy appetite
for Calves Knicks games. Like I understand the Pacers aren't
gonna have Halliburton, so it's tough to hype your defending
Eastern Conference champion. And plus they're getting the rematch out
of the way early because I think it would have
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got lost in the shuffle if it was later on
in the season. But it just doesn't make any sense
that none of these other Eastern Conference teams would be
in those marquee windows. Calves Knicks. Really, he's carry roads.
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Chris Burfett, Technical producer, Hi and Isaac Lohenkron at the
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news desk. What's going on? I love hey, Carrie, Hi
dam So Isaac just just ended up wrapping up with
a headline talking about the NFL and Major League Baseball's
world's kind of colliding is the World Series has released
(01:24):
their schedule for October and the World Series. The first
headline was the World Series is not going to do
a flex start. That doesn't mean anything. All that means
is this is they're gonna set up. They're gonna start
on a set date. That's what it means. And that
set date is Friday, October twenty fourth. There was the
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thought Kerry, if the League Championship Series ended early, maybe
they won't want the World Series early, so there wasn't
as much leg time. They're not going to do that.
They're just going to say, hey, October twenty fourth, Friday,
that's when Game one of the World Series is going
to be. And the reason why I think it's very
newsworthy and noteworthy is because of all of the dominoes
(02:09):
that follow that. So then Game two gets to be
played on Saturday, and then Sunday day off for travel.
Then they play Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday day off for Thursday nights, Friday,
Saturday and the series is wrapped up. They completely carry
have avoided the NFL sans a Monday night football game.
(02:32):
They've ditched both Sundays that could have conflicted depending on
when the series would start. And they also, because of
the off day, have started to avoid a Thursday night
where you could have the game on Amazon maybe outright
the National Football League, but it is it's amazing to
me to see the power of the NFL because now
(02:53):
Major League Baseball is really dealing with it at its
full extent, where they're saying, our biggest product, the World Series,
we are going to do everything we can humanly possibly
do to avoid going up against any NFL game in
the middle of their season.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
So what you're telling me right now is America's past time?
Is now past time?
Speaker 3 (03:18):
You like that?
Speaker 5 (03:19):
I like that, I'm here laws from the audience, I'm here.
I'm here all day.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I mean, if you want, they are standing for carry Rhoades.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
I mean, you know, I like to thank my mom
c gave birth to me.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
And now I'm hearing this moment.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
You know, a lot of things happen, but right now
I'm in the space. But no, seriously, it's about that
we know that right now, football is overtaking every other
sport here in America, right and so if you can
avoid those those conflicting times, it was smart by baseball.
I don't want to say they were scared. I'm not
going to say that. I'm gonna say they were smart
with the way they scheduled it. But again, football is
(03:54):
here to stay. It's a power. Good on, Good on
Baseball for doing it.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I want to get I want to get into the
because this actually, as this water fall of information trickles down,
it goes into other things. It goes into college football,
that goes into holidays, it goes into our lives.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
Right.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
But just kind of a general question on that and
to what Roger goodellas said to their competing do you
foresee a time in the next twenty years where football
takes a step back, the next twenty years where we're like, hey,
what's going on with the NFL as this business model?
(04:33):
I think twenty years is a good window. Hopefully, Knockunwood,
both you and I are here to look back at
the throw point, right, But do you think in the
next twenty years at any point you could see the
NFL maybe just get too big? And take a step back.
I don't think so.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
And the reason I say that is because of it's
had ample opportunities for that to be the case. We've
had legal things, We've had former NFL players fighting the
league to get money, and head cases and all. I mean,
it's been so much that's been kind of encased in
I guess the demise for the demise of the NFL,
and it just hasn't happened. I think we as humans,
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as Americans, we sit here and whenever we get a
chance to get a break from reality, we get a
chance to watch guys go out there and kill each
other on the field and make impressive plays.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
We're all for that.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
And I think it's just been proven that no thing
outside of that sport can actually make that ship sink.
And so, I mean we've had things where NFL PA
guys are making money on the side and taking advantage
of the situations. So it just I don't see it
being a viable option.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
I know that, Yeah, the Players Association probably wants more
of that pie would I look at and I just
look at the NFL. I remember a long time ago
when you would go to NFL dot com and you
would have to click on certain tabs, You'd have to
click on certain hole down menus and things, and the
(06:03):
things that I'm talking about, specifically fantasy football. You would
have to search to find stuff with fantasy football. And
now the NFL in a way is throwing it at you.
Here's fantasy football. I feel fantasy football within the last
ten or fifteen years gave the NFL such a lifeline
because it's become so huge. And we had COVID five
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years ago in the NFL coming back as normal as
it could be, even though it didn't have fans, but
our Sundays were back being It was such a huge
boost at a time when you know we're also in
a spot where there's a lot of stuff going on.
Prior to that was the Colin Kaepernick situation where you
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have people saying I'm not going to watch the NFL
like I feel like COVID almost gave them a new
life in that aspect. And then now was sports betting
and gambling being illegal in states, it's given another level.
We at the news desk where Isaac Lohenkron is sitting,
I was talking with one of our anchors this weekend
(07:08):
and I said, it's crazy because you think that you
could get by just bringing stats for preseason games, because
that's really all that mattered. How should our Sanders do right,
How did quin Ewers do with the Dolphins? How did
you know to Ado in that game against the Bears?
All of that stuff is relevant, But people now bet
on preseason games, so we almost have to give the
(07:29):
score because that's what people want to know. Did their
pick cover the spread at that point in what is
a meaningless preseason game when nobody knows the players. So
even in these times where we think it can take
a step back, it gets this this jolt of energy,
and I just am wondering what's the next jolt of
energy to come along to continue the NFL in this
dominant force where they've taken away Christmas Day from the NBA,
(07:53):
and now Major League Baseball is scheduling the World Series
around what the NFL is doing, and that previously wasn't
the case.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Just think about this. They've changed so many things regarding
the rules, player safety, the physicality in the game. You thought, okay,
defenses can't hit anybody. That's gonna take people away from
the game. Nope, we're going to change the kickoff rule
and take away the exciting part of special teams, and
you know, make them have to fair catch it and
get the ball the thirty yard line to target, like
(08:23):
all these things that you have to learn again as
a fan, that that didn't set it back, Like, I
don't see there being anything or I mean, right now
they're working on the computer thing where you can just
look at the screen and see what the first down is.
Like all these gimmicks and things they're trying to add
to enhance it, some of them are really stupid. Sure,
it just and it does not take away from the game.
(08:44):
So I just don't know if it will ever be
a time that happens.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
There's so many different ways to enjoy it. Yep, they're
probably going to add an eighteenth game at some point
or another. I know, as crazy as it is, man,
I don't even I thought at one point that that
could be the bubble burst, because I do think seventeen games.
I don't think people realize how long that it actually is.
I thought that the extra week has added quite a bit.
(09:10):
Now if you go at eighteen weeks, you're likely going
to have multiple bye weeks. So now you're adding not
only another regular season game. You're adding on another week,
so it's going to take up much of the calendar.
But I think, for whatever reason, I don't think it's
going to have an effect on how people watch and
how people consume, and they'll just continue to want more
(09:31):
and more and more and more. Where to your point,
Major League Baseball is like, Okay, let's have a pitch clock,
you know, let's let's do this, Let's have you know this,
this base be bigger, let's try to do that. You know.
The NBA has tried to fight it, and now I
think they're just almost at the mercy of whatever the
NFL does, you know, wants to do on say, a
holiday like Christmas, And they prove that they can play
(09:52):
on Wednesday last year. So when that happens in the
next calendar year, the next eight years, or whenever we
get another Wednesday, we're going to have it. But it's
no matter what the NFL does, it turns to gold.
While all these other leagues are just fine trying to
find ways to keep their head above water.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Do you think there's gonna be a football game every
day of the week at some point?
Speaker 1 (10:11):
No, Okay, I think that would hurt them and I
will also say this because this is the part of
this World Series schedule. I'm glad that you brought that
up because people do have lives in the fall. People
have lives every season, but fall is different to schools
in session. It's just a different feel. I also feel
that Friday night football, which is brought up because now
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the NFL is saying, oh, we'll play on Friday night
of a season opening game, people are like, wait a second.
Like last year when the Packers played the Eagles. Yeah,
back home in Wisconsin, it was crazy to see people
being like, oh, are you going to watch the Packer game?
Are you going to go to the local high school game?
And I would imagine it's probably the same around the
(10:57):
Kansas City area and in Missouri this year, of like
are you gonna watch the Chiefs on Friday Night in
the season opener? Are you gonna go to the local
high school game? The NFL don't care, doesn't matter, and
high schools usually are wrapped up by Thanksgiving anyway for
high school football, so like a Black Friday game doesn't
necessarily matter. But the NFL has shown that they'll go
to those spots. I just think going to every single
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day would just be too much. Then there isn't that
specialty of Sunday, even though Sundays got a little less
oomph as it you know, maybe had ten years ago.
But I think every single day would be a little
too much. It's wait too much.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
But I mean just right now, where we got a Monday,
we had.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
A Thursday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Saturday games in the in
the yeah not too far yeah, early winter, Yeah, taking over.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
They will conflict with the college football playoff. They don't
care about that. They are full steam ahead. Did that?
Did that mess with you as a player, having the
different days of playing and playing on a Thursday, maybe
a play on a Monday in a short week.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
Yes, Thursday, Thursday is tough. I mean if you play
a game on Sunday and which which has happened? You
play Thursday and you come back and play I mean
Sunday and you come back and play Thursday.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
It's just ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
I mean for an older guy, Sunday, you play the
game Monday Tuesday like you're legit, you're in recovery mode.
But when you're getting ready to play a game Thursday,
you gotta be a recovery slash getting ready to play,
and it's a lot we played. We played a game
when I was in Arizona against the car against the
Rams when they were still in Saint Louis, and we
(12:31):
played at home, so we had to travel. Obviously, we
had to travel to Saint Louis. You have that short week,
you have that travel as well. It's just we stood
no chance. We got blown out and we didn't even care.
It was like, yep, we lost. It's almost like the
NBA with the scheduling loss. That's what it comes down
to when you when you do Sunday to Thursday, when
you have.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
A back to back and you're just kind of like,
all right, we just need to win one of these two.
We're gonna hunt on the other one and just move
on from that. It is it is a complete I mean,
is a please take over by the NFL. I'll make
this note about the World Series. I don't know if
the guys want to jump in or out. Let me
know if you do the World Series. And I looked
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this up and a producer, Bo Benson was with me.
I said, I can guarantee you I will look thirty
years ago and there will not be a Sunday night
football game scheduled in mid to late October because of
the World Series. So we just took nineteen ninety three,
looked it up. Sure enough, October seventeenth, nineteen ninety three,
there was no Sunday night football game because that night
(13:31):
carry was Game two of the World Series between the
Phillies and Blue Jays, and the year prior, when the
Blue Jays faced the Atlanta Braves, there was no Sunday
night game because the NFL said Major League Baseball, we're
not competing with that. We do not want to compete
with the World Series. Now, there could have been a schedule,
and I think there may have been some points where
there was a Game seven that could fall on a
(13:53):
Sunday and you would have a conflict because of an
ESPN Sunday night game because that's when football aired on
Sunday night, and TNT actually had some Sunday night games
as well. Wow, there was yeah, crazy enough. Yeah, you
didn't even know that.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
But the NFL had one weekend whether we're not going
to do a Sunday night primetime game to conflict with
Major League Baseball. Then they said, well, we don't care
about Major League Baseball. We're just going to schedule anyway.
Now it's just completely done a one eighty where Major
League Baseball has to change their schedule, Carrie. It was
in twenty twenty two the Major League Baseball started the
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World Series on a Friday for the first time since
nineteen fifteen. It was over one hundred years where they
had their schedule, like starting on a Friday. Mix You're
in the media business, Yeah, Friday night TV, and it's
not TGIF anymore with ABC, Like you want to be
in the primetime windows of like Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Like
(14:53):
Friday night's not a great night for TV. Major League
Baseball says, well, that's how we avoid the NFL, Like
that's how which they've taken it over.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Isaac longcrom Yeah, you bring up a really, really great
point because if you go back the famous nineteen eighty
six World Series between the Mets and the Red Sox
with Buckner and Stuff, Game seven of that World Series
was rained out on a Sunday, so it was actually
played on a Monday night at the same time as
Monday Night Football, and the World Series outdrew Monday Night
(15:24):
Football by a factor of three, so three times as
many people watched Game seven of the World Series as
compared to Monday Night Football. And I honestly think that
if that happened like this year, it might almost be
completely reversed.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yeah, I think you're right. Even if it was you know,
the Titans and Patriots like like, we're still like, like,
let's see how Cam Moore does Mike Vrabel's revenge. Like,
we will talk ourselves into anything to make anything exciting
in the National Football League, even if it comes at
the expense of another sports or the sports marquee event
(15:57):
in that being the World Series. Bo Benson, would you like.
Speaker 7 (16:00):
To know the NFL games that Major League Baseball is avoiding?
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yes, yes, please?
Speaker 7 (16:05):
Week eight Sunday, October twenty sixth is Packers at Steelers. Yep,
So I can see why they would want to avoid that,
And then theoretically November two would be Seahawks at Commanders.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah. Well, of course everybody wants to see Sam Carnald.
They are not gonna mess with that. Yeah. The Packers, Steelers,
I mean, the Brewers run the World Series. They meant
and even show up, and they've you know, I haven't
been there since eighty two, they may stay home and
watch the Packers. Just kidding, but that is that's that's
a very fair point, wow of the marquee matchups, and
(16:40):
plus that's you know, a prime spot late October, you know,
in the thick of the fall, Pittsburgh and the Packers. Yeah,
Major League Baseball says, no thanks, We'll start on a Friday.
We'll have Game six, maybe end on a Friday. It's
it's just amazing on how dominant the National Football League
can be.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
The crazy part about watching that game, watching the World
Series game on a Friday, you can be out. You
don't need sounds, so no worries. Yeah, it'd be the
NFL game.
Speaker 7 (17:10):
That the World Series will compete with is Monday Night Football,
October twenty seventh. Commanders at Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Well, we know there won't be any conflict with the
Royals and Nationals playing, so there will be no local
mix up there. But all of the non partial fans
for those markets can have their choice of the NFL.
They won't be directed towards one way or the other.
That's yeah, gosh, that have to be a really really
good game. Chris Purfett I.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Just I'm always amazed at what and I've always tried
to pinpoint when exactly that flip happened, where it's like
the NFL had to avoid Baseball, but now Baseball has
to avoid the NFL. I think we just kind of
take for granted just that the NFL has been dominant
for so long, but it's just used to not be
that way, and it just it's fantastic how it's flipped.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
I don't know if or maybe Isaac can even track
down when the NFL started to schedule a Sunday night game.
I know I looked on Pro Football Reference to find
the nineteen ninety three regular season schedule, Yeah, to find
out because I knew they didn't schedule a Sunday night game.
It was a weird thing because you would have six
weeks of games and then all of a sudden, you'd
be like, wait, there's no Sunday night gam You'd be like, oh,
that's because the World Series is going to be on.
(18:21):
But so at some point the NFL said, like, we're
not going to be taking off a World Series night anymore.
Speaker 7 (18:26):
Grain of salt, but Google AI says twenty ten.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Okay, all right, So but it's kind of recently.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
It's kind of like with the Christmas Day game for
the NBA, it's like, all right, well we don't you know,
we'll'll watch out for that. But all of a sudden
something flipped in the NFL. It's like, wait a minute,
we could have this one too.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
And not to get too into the weeds here, but
in about two thousand and five, the NFL made a
dramatic change to its TV package when they got Sunday
Night Football back to NBC and they moved Monday Night
Football from ABC to ESPN. And what happened was is
the prime time event that would get the better matchups
(19:04):
was moved from ABC's Monday Night Football to NBC Sunday
Night Football. That's when Madden went over to NBC. So
by that time that started the domino of Sunday Night
Football getting the prime time number one scheduling matchup when
it used to be on Monday nights. So that I
think was a symptom of what happened in twenty ten
(19:24):
because you were getting better matchups.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
But it also has to come with again that symptom
of like the NFL thinking to itself, wait a minute,
we no longer have to compete with baseball. We own
this spot. This is not something where Baseball can even
hold a candle to us anymore. We own this time.
Baseball has to count owt to us.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Yeah, it's a takeover and hobnestly. I'm sure Major League
Baseball avoided that Monday night game because of a Saturday
Sunday start, but there almost seemed to be like a
bit of a friendly agreement between the sides. And I'm
not even sure maybe Isaac would even know this, but
I mean, there was a time where the World Series
was on ABC and then you would have ABC Monday
Night Football, so there could be conflicts in that way
(20:02):
as well. But I do know that the NFL did
keep that window open and they wouldn't schedule games. And
then when they're TV partners, maybe in a new TV deal,
maybe that's when it was in twenty ten, they said
all right, we'll just start the schedule games and they
ended up completely taking it over.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Yeah, the last time ABC had a World Series was
a one off in nineteen ninety five. The last time
they were regularly part of the rotation was in nineteen
eighty nine. But you guys brought up a really interesting
other thing that made me remember this. Maybe it was
two or three years ago when Joe Buck was the
lead voice of the NFL and also the lead voice
of baseball on Fox before he moved to ESPN. He
(20:40):
actually was put on an NFL regular season game instead
of Game seven of the National League Championship Series one year,
and that never would have happened.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Yeah, you're right, You're right, And I'm kind of just
scrolling through as we're talking here. I'm up to I
think Bo's number is about right because I got to
two thousand and four, and again there was no Sunday
night game that was scheduled that weekend for the World Series.
I'll say this, and I'm looking at a screen right now,
and I think where on the Big Ten network it
as the Iowa Football preview. This doesn't like the NFL
(21:14):
is super powerful and the NFL can do what it wants,
and you would think that maybe it's the sport of football.
But when Fox recently said we're going to put Big
Ten games on Friday night, you would not have believed
the uproar in places like Iowa, my home state of Wisconsin, Illinois,
where high school football. I think high school football in
(21:36):
any state is a big deal Alabama. But yeah, absolutely so.
I don't even want to say it because it's not
a Midwest thing. The only reason I bring it up
is because it's Big Ten football and now they we're
going to be moving Big Ten games to Friday nights.
And when you have, like say on Iowa team that
has eight home games a year, you build your weekend
about that. You don't want it to conflict with your
(21:56):
high school football matchup that's going on in those towns.
So there is more uproar about like Fox trying to
put college football on a Friday night than there ever
has been of the NFL trying to take over the FEL.
Just as his bull bowzer and moves everybody like, I
felt like Fox and the Big Ten got more pushback
from all these high schools and other communities because of
(22:19):
the TV package because they started to play some Friday
night games.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
Yeah, no, it's it's absurd. I mean, obviously, it's a
money thing. It's a money it's not even just the
dominance thing. It's we can do this, we want to
make money. We're going to continue to make money at
an absurd clip, and you're going to be on board
with it. It doesn't matter what we do. And I think
that's the moral of the story.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Guys, if you.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
Get money and you get power, use it. And they've
used it very well.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
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the One Night with Steiny podcast and there was a
lot that was there. We find out that Michael Porter
Junior's vice is women like for most men, true right,
(25:06):
just like Tiger Woods, all right right in his his scenario.
But it was something else that Michael Porter Junior said
that was interesting in the One Night with Steiny podcast
that had to deal with this brother, Jhonte Porter, who
got busted for gambling and altering. I don't know if
it's fixing NBA games, but he's fixing his own stat line,
(25:27):
that's for sure. Michael Porter Junior on gambling in sports.
Take a listen to this.
Speaker 9 (25:34):
Think about it. If you could get all your homies
rich by telling him, Yo, ten thousand dollars on my
under You know this one game, I'm gonna act like
I got an injury. I'm gonna sit out, I'm gonna
come out after three minutes and they all get a
little bad because you did it one game like that
is so not okay. But some people probably think like that.
They come from nothing and all their homies have nothing,
and they're like, Bro, if I come out of this
(25:55):
game after three minutes and y'all all hit on my under,
we're all getting a little bag.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Yeah. Well that's the problem. That's why they get flagged
for irregular betting, because who's going to bet on the
Jonte Porter under or the Terry Rose year under if
you're getting hundreds of thousands of dollars? Like I get
the thought process. You want to help out your guys
and you don't want it to come out of your pocket.
Why not have it come out of somebody else's pocket. Yeah,
(26:23):
I just don't think that you're saying that out loud.
And that's what's so shocking for Michael Porter Junior especially.
I guess he's trying to stand up for his brother
in a way. That's a weird way of doing it.
When you're still playing in the NBA.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
Stop trying to be cool and stop saying nonsense on
podcast like that's official media now, Like people think they're
sitting in podcasts having a conversation with their friend and
it's not going to get out to the world. And
it's like, dude, you're in the NBA. We already have
our own claims and feelings about you know, some of
the games, and when you bet the under and the
(26:56):
team scores at the last second because they know that
the unders whatever they underheads like you're all you're doing
is substantiating that claim for us. And so for me,
when these players come out and say these things, I
just want to I literally I want to slap them,
like I want to slap some sense in them and
be like, look, listen, we know that we know how
you feel, and we know that we have these conversations
(27:18):
at home or whatever thing may be. But this is
still a national medium now. Podcasts are out there for
the world to consume. And so when you say things
like this, and especially a guy like Porter who hasn't
really reached his potential, his capability capabilities as a player,
like focus on that. Stop being cool and saying the
things that you think people want to hear, because that
(27:39):
just doesn't fly.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
It doesn't sit well.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
And then with your teammates, like if you're on your
team and you're trying to go out and win a game,
and you know that this person may have the capabilities
of telling this homeboy, look, I'm going to get the
under tonight, so bet on this.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Like that's crazy to me. I'm gonna play Devil's advocate.
I'm gonna play Devil's advocate. Okay, Stray diffident because I
think these comments are what But I will say when
we just talked about twenty minutes ago about scheduling and
talking about back to back games of the NBA and
teams throwing away a game, just being like, all right,
well we're not going to throw in the towel. There
(28:14):
wouldn't be much harm in that. If you're Jhonte Porter
and saying, well, this is a game where I'm getting
minutes anyway, because all the starters are resting, they're not
playing the back to back, this would be the opportunity
to do that. So if you're likely going to lose
anyway because the team's kind of thrown in the towel,
(28:35):
wouldn't this be a way to get your guys some cash.
I think it's absurd. I'm just like saying, like we
think of the sanctity of the game, and we held
it to this high regard. But again, if you're going
in on a back to back saying you're not going
to win one of the games anyway, then you know,
is it really held in that high of a regard.
(28:57):
If teams are folding just to try to keep their
players healthy.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
Well, the thing is, you're not going into that game
saying you're not going to win, now, you just you're
being honest with where you stand and where you are
as a team. Right, you played on Sunday and you're
going to Thursday in Saint Louis to play a game,
and all of us are banged up, Like it's a
high probability that it is going to be tough to
get a win.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
I think it's a different story. Yeah, I think it's
a different story in the NBA when you see those
graphics when you're like, oh, it's gonna be one of
these nights when you have five new starters and you're like, well,
he have ages two points a game, why is he
starting at the four right? So like in that game,
like it's kind of already a lost cause for the team.
They're probably gonna get blown out anyway. I'm not advocating
any of this, it's not I'm just I'm just trying
(29:35):
to say, Like we sit there and we say, like,
the people who are getting screwed in this scenario that
Michael Porter Junior is talking about are are the sports books? Yes,
that as well. Like in that situation, the fans have
already found out their team is going to lose because
they're playing five reserves guys who never get minutes, and
(29:58):
a couple of guys that get called up from the
If they were to happen to win that game, it
would only be a bonus, but fans would normally take
that as a loss. In fact, the organization would take
that as a loss. The people that are getting screwed
are the ones that are the sportsbooks who have to
pay out that money that everybody loaded up on because
they knew so and so was going to duck out
(30:19):
with a low total.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
Well what makes me upset about it for real, though, is,
like I said, Michael porter jun is a really really
he's a good player in the league, right, And so
I mean you go onto a game and you're expecting,
you know, him to come out and play the way
up to his potential. And then you have these nights
and obviously these knights happen organically, but now that always
brings a question is it happening organically or is he
(30:40):
telling his homeboys to bet the under tonight? And so
that part of it, just the conflicting ideologies of it,
just doesn't really sit well with me at all.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
It doesn't sit well with people as well. As I'm
no longer playing Devil's advocate, I will step out of
that role.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
Get out of their dance.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Stop it. It doesn't sit well when Michael Porter has a
five year, one hundred and eighty million dollar deal, Nope,
and it's talking about getting his guys ten thousand, right,
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
It's it's ludicrous to talk about like you can.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Just give him twenty grand and then if to bet right,
that's it.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
Yeah, So you're gonna try to beat the system and
try to do this thing that you think is kind
of cool and slick. And that's the part of.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
He says the things that we talk about, Yeah, we
talk about amongst ourselves who are not in the game, right,
And that's where the line was crossed.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
Yes, he's in the business. How can you say that
when you're in the business and you're in the business
of winning and doing your job to the best of
your ability.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
I know you're not on Blue Sky I am at Empire,
but are you on TikTok? You're not on TikTok I am.
I think all of us here are, at least in
some form. My favorite, it's one of my favorite tiktoks
is the guy who put all of his life savings
on red. You've seen that on Roulette from like probably
(32:00):
like nineteen ninety three or something like that, and it's
it's got people around him. Guy at one hundred and
thirty thousand dollars put it all on red and he
hits like that's but that is kind of also the
thinking of of of the gambler and all of this
is you just think, well if I hit this one yep.
(32:22):
And for these guys, they're like, well, this is the
sure thing, then my life can change. And so there's
a way that their life could change if Michael Porter
Junior gave them one hundred thousand dollars of his one
hundred and eighty million dollars. It's not life altering money,
but it sure would help out in that situation, but
like there's always that this is this is why people
(32:44):
like go down that rabbit hole. The only the only
people outside of the sports books that would be screwed
would be the people who bet the over on those nights,
and those people have a reason to be really mad
at Michael Porter June.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
Exactly, and again ten thousand. A straight up bet of
John Say Porter or Michael Porter whoever getting younder isn't
going to change his life anyway.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Yes, it's it's crazy.
Speaker 7 (33:08):
Can I just point out how extremely funny it is
that he said some people think like that, and he's
literally just talking about his own brother, y right, Yeah,
those are the people.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
By the way, in a glowing fashion, like looking out
for his boys, Like some people think like that. You
can talk about crazy stuff amongst your friends, and like,
you know, you're like, like, hey man, some people think
like that. I don't know how they do it. That's crazy.
But yeah, to his brother, and it's done in a
good way. Usually it's like a an off putting sort
of weird way.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
And he's not doing it for He's not just doing
it for his brother. His brother isn't even that paid yet,
so he's probably doing it for his brother as well.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Kind of they said, could anybody say this except a Porter,
Rogier or Beasley? Right, anybody else could say this? And
when you know, Michael Porter Junior is the one does it.
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Dan Bayer. Have you been keeping tabs on the NBA
schedule releases, the leaks that have been coming out.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
I got a couple, you know, there's a couple of
the Dallas and sentence a Yo game one that stuff
paid attention to.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
That that's a Wednesday night opener, part of the ESPN
package that Wednesday night, Thursday night opener on ESPN Wednesday,
it will be Cavs and Knicks. Spurs and MAVs follow that.
Then on Thursday it's Oklahoma City and the Pacers in
a finals rematch, and then Denver and Golden State. Last
week we had the news that the opening night on
(35:40):
NBC would feature the Rockets and Thunder and Warriors and Lakers,
and then we had the Christmas matchups as well. Coming
out what I thought it was interesting with the Christmas
matchups was that it was so heavily dominated by the
Western Conference. There's just one Eastern Conference game, and that
Eastern Conference game is Cavaliers and Knicks. You know what
I dare we may have to get the stager out
(36:02):
Bo Benson for what I'm about to say, because as
the more I thought about it, the more I realize
this falls under the umbrella of we.
Speaker 11 (36:13):
Watched twenty twenty five. I'm watched twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Why are the Cavaliers so highly regarded in these matchups?
I know they were the number one seed, but I'm
not dying to watch Cavalier basketball. Giannis is still in Milwaukee,
Desmond Baine was brought in by Orlando, and now you
have the Magic as a legitimate team. I don't care
what you say about Boston. There's still the Celtics, even
(36:38):
if Jason Tatum is injured, and you have the seventy
six ers. Be the seventy six ers. Why is the
NBA shoving the Cavaliers down our throat when no other
Eastern Conference team outside of the Knicks is seemingly getting
any run. The reason is this, This is the reason I.
Speaker 11 (36:57):
Watched twenty twenty five. I'm watched twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Lebron somehow ends up in Cleveland between now and late September,
they will have their bases cover out. That's what you're thinking.
It's the only reason why they're shoving Evan Mobley and
Spider Mitchell down our throats. That's gotta be the only
reason why that just maybe Lebron will leave and be
a member of the Cavaliers. I know the East is
(37:21):
gonna stink, but you put the Bucks out all the time,
when when Damian Lillard wasn't there anyway, and Giannis was
the star. He's still there again. Orlando's a good team.
The Pistons, Yes, you know, why won't you put the
Pistons on one of these games? Instead? They're giving us
the Cavaliers. And that's why I think even the NBA
is thinking that there could be a possibility that Lebron
(37:41):
doesn't play for the Lakers.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
And I'm gonna write this now right now. The fact
that you're you've been on is you said that would
be the only place that would make sense for him
to go. You've said that a couple of times. I've
heard you myself. I think i've said it as well.
It panned out that way, would it also be a
little losing as well.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
I don't know, but that's never stopped the NBA before.
I never stopped before. It's just it's amazing to me
that they feel like we have this this crazy appetite
for Calves Knicks games. Like I understand the Pacers aren't
gonna have Halliburton, so it's tough to hype your defending
Eastern Conference champion. And plus they're getting the rematch out
of the way early because I think it would have
(38:24):
got lost in the shuffle if it was later on
in the season. But it just doesn't make any sense
that none of these other Eastern Conference teams would be
in those marquee windows. Calves Knicks. Really, he's carry roads.
I'm Dan Byer quarterback tears not t e a RS.
(38:44):
We dive into that next on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 11 (38:47):
I've watched twenty twenty five. I'm watched twenty twenty five.
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