August 11, 2025 • 39 mins
Dan Beyer & Monse Bolanos, in for Covino & Rich, talk about some takeaways from Week 1 of the NFL preseason, highlighted by Shedeur Sanders debut for the Browns and his pregame entourage. Week 1 Preseason NFL headlines from last year to tamper excitement out of this season, and more!
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Profedes here, Hello, Chris, Hello, Hello, Hello, And as glowing
crowd is at the news desk, salutations. We are hanging
out on a Monday for the guys. As again they
were in for dan Patrick, and the topic of conversation
still goes back to what happened on Friday. As you
and I were in for Cavino and Rich that day,
Shador Sanders was entering the stadium its Charlotte with a
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speaker behind him, which is part of the whole story. Well,
we're still talking about Shudor Sanders because it seems like
maybe things haven't changed as much as we thought in
Cleveland by how reps had gone in practice and the
word from Kevin Stefanski who still doesn't know a plan
for their second preseason game. But Manzi, for what was
preseason week one in the NFL, it sure feels like
(01:45):
Shudor Sanders was headline number one, even though it happened
back on Friday night.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
It definitely was headline number one, and we talked about it,
we chatted about it.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
I am glad to say that here we.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Are now that it's past that he at least of
dub to that moment of him walking in with the
music and the teammates and whatnot, because he did. He
had a good outing out there. Yes, it was a
preseason game. To do what you want with that information,
but I thought he looked good. He had some nice
throws in tight coverage, he avoided the sack and got
(02:18):
rid of the ball quick enough. There were moments where
he looked good when you didn't know what you were
gonna get, because the reports and the rumors that we
get is that he took the least amount of first
team reps this entire time.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
So what were you going.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
To get throwing him out there? People saying he's set
up for failure. Listen, He to me lived up to it,
which is exactly what he needed to do because of
the entrance he made. Had he made that entrance and
not played well or at least looked good in a
preseason debut, who knows what the storyline would be today.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
And when you say entrance, you actually mean the physical
entrance of him walking into the stadium, right, not just this,
not on the general thought now entering your professional career.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
No, no, no, I mean the way he chose to come
into this game with music and I called him entourage,
but current players that are on the team with him
that I was unfamiliar with music, a nice big chain. No,
he was ready for more than a preseason game.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
He's going to be the story again. Throughout the preseason,
whether he plays or doesn't play, or however the Browns
end up handling his situation in Cleveland. What I find
unique about this whole scenario, Manzi, is I think everything
that we got Friday is everything we've gotten in the
past four months or so since Shudor Sanders came into
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the National Football League, and it's everything that's around him
that's part of the conversation. I think that there are
glimpses where you just look at him as should Or Sanders. Yes,
as twenty something young quarterback entering the National Football League.
There are very few times, though, where that shines out,
(03:59):
and you're right, he played well. He was the story,
especially considering what was given to him leading up to
that point. As you said, there were some who said
that the Browns were trying to make should Or Sanders
to be in a situation where he was set up
to fail and do so in front of the eyes
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of everyone, which would have been dirty pool. I would
not want to work for a coach like that. I
would never want to play for an organization like that.
That just wouldn't be fair. But shoud Or Sanders did
what he needed to do as a professional quarterback now
and then ended up balling out by throwing two touchdown
passes and making good throws. But I think there's more
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to this story because I feel that for the last
since he was drafted in April, so it's May, June, July, August,
approaching four months as should or Sanders as a professional,
and even through the draft process before that more moncy.
You've been on one side of the other. You've been
either anti Shad or Sanders or you have been all
(05:02):
for Shaud or Sanders. And I don't think anything this
weekend brought anyone together. What I think it did is
it may have pushed us moral part where if you're
not on the side of Sanders, you have excuses on
why he played well, and if you were on the
side of Sanders, my goodness, Friday was Christmas morning, like
the gifts were just there, they were under the tree.
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And I think that ends up being the whole package
with Shad or Sanders. And I think that's actually a
little bit of the problem when we look at Shador.
But Friday night was a big win for those that
are backing Shaudor.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I mean, it can be a problem, but if the
antics are there and his play is still there, then
I guess I don't see the problem.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Everyone is waiting for him to fail or to succeed.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Right.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
He's a little bit of the.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Angel Reese Caitlin Clark situation where you're split. You feel
really strongly about Shador Sanders one way or the other.
But Nike had a damn I'm ad ready dan for
after the game. If he would not have played well,
I doubt Nike was gonna put that ad out.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
My point is the.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Reputation, the personality, the antics, the things that rub people
the wrong way that maybe you could even argue were
the reasons that Caleb Williams rub people the wrong way. Different,
but still the antics that come with these new rookies
coming into the NFL. They're starting to not matter less
and less, especially if he continues.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
To deliver play all.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Back it up, Yes, it's not gonna matter.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
You'd be like, fine, go ahead, out with your boombox,
go ahead.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I'm not anti Shador Sanders, and I don't think you
are either, but I think I would be in the
part of where I try to look at NFL reality
and I try to take what it is and the
NFL reality I thought a week ago was teams just
don't carry that many quarterbacks. So when Andrew Berry was asked, like,
is there a possibility that you could keep four quarterbacks
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on this team? It's not a directed answer. This question
leaves some opportunity for leeway and wiggle room, and Barry
took it and said, yeah, I could. I could see
that opportunity. Fifth rounders have been cut before. They have that.
It's not a common deal more six and seventh rounders,
So a fifth rounder being cut would be a little
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bit strange. But should wear being the fourth quarterback? I
just didn't see it until last week, Bonzi. I didn't
see a situation in the NFL where that is common.
I thought that there could be a possibility where Shauduur
doesn't make it because of all of the reps that
are going to Dylan Gabriel, Kenny Pickett, and Joe Flacco. Well,
now I think this is solidified as spot on the team.
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But why I think Friday night was was so it
was such a clear picture of where we are is
because Schaudeur at everything backed against him in terms of preparation, familiarity,
and now spotlight. He couldn't make the mistakes in this
that other quarterbacks do. Now, it was going to be
on national TV and a game setting in front of
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opposing fans. That's not really fair. But Shadoor says, and
I guess maybe to what you're saying his credit, should
Or says, I'm gonna be Shador. I'm going to walk
in with music blaring behind me, whether it's week one
of a preseason game or maybe even a super Bowl.
And I think that that portion of it is like, Okay,
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it's it's pre season here, what are we doing? Like
you haven't even started. But they're sticking to the script,
just like Nike is, like, we're sticking to it. Then
it was pointed out that it was one of his
teammates that was holding the speaker as they walked in.
Nobody knows that, nobody knows who that player is. So
the perception of shad Or Sanders continues. It's should Or
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walking in with his legendary chain playing his own single
and somebody that we don't know behind him carrying a boombox.
But it's also this shoud Or Sanders talking with a
Tony Grossi, the longtime Cleveland reporter, about why can't you
just say something nice about me. You're always negative about me.
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And the Sanders camp was like, see look at this,
Shador Sanders puts reporter in his place. Why was the
camera rolling at that point? Was why was there a
microphone there at that point? Like, that's that's part of
the deal and the biggest picture to me, Monty. That's
why he fell to the fifth round. He fell to
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the fifth round because teams don't want players walking in
with a speaker behind them in week one of a
preseason game. Teams don't want camera crews following a player around.
The NFL, for whatever it is, wants players in how
they want it and in their script and how it's
laid out. Individuality isn't necessarily embraced in the National Football League.
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And so when we see all of this, and kudos
to Shador for playing great on Friday, but this also
answers why he fell to the fifth round. He could play,
maybe not as well as mild kiper thought, but he
could play. He can play. He showed it on Friday night.
But there's everything that comes with it, and that's in
essence why we got the full Shador Sanders experience on
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Friday night.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Yeah, I hear what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
I just think that maybe he is the beginning of
something that's going to change in the NFL. I don't
think this is going to be the last type of
player that comes into the NFL.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Like Shador Sanders. He may just be I think it
started with Kayleb Williams.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
The individuality that you're talking about, And yeah, people aren't
used to it when it comes to the NFL, But
in Shadoor Sanders, that script, they're loving it. That camera,
Why was that camera there? Why Didn'tike have the ad?
This is what they want. This is the story of
Shador Sanders is so intriguing to everybody. Even people who
pretend they don't care, they're paying attention to Shador Sanders.
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They want to know what's going on. They may not
chime in, but they're listening and they're paying attention. And
it is such a discussion. And I agree with you.
If you were wondering why he dropped in the draft,
that is why. But he's also proving who cares? If
I have antics?
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Who cares? At least that's what's happening right now.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Maybe I'm eating my words in a couple of months,
right but right now it's working.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
I well it worked on Friday night.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Oh yeah, well there's nothing else to compare it to
right now.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yes, yes, so so far it's working. So far are
the accounts of the reports that we got from the
athletic and other sources. In practice, today it was business
as usual. Joe Flacco getting the work with the ones.
Can He Pickett got some work in today after he
was injured. Dylan Gabriel did some work with the twos.
Don't know the exact workload of should or Sanders, but
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should or Sanders at least on Friday night prove that
he's going to be in the NFL, whether it be
in Cleveland or somewhere else exactly, and is may that
may never have been a question, but now there's value
to him to the point of if there is an
team that is out there looking, maybe the Browns can
end up making a trade if they aren't settled on
should Or. Kevin Stefanski says, they don't know what their
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plan is going to be for week two and won't
know that until Wednesday or Thursday of this preseason. Decide
what they're going to do this weekend, So all of
that's left up in the air, but what he did
on Friday night solidified his spot in the National Football League,
whether it be in Cleveland or somewhere else. I just wonder, Manci,
at one point, at what point do we try to
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make it natural? What point do we try to make
it organic? Because what I loved most about should Or
Sanders was seeing him jump in the pool when he
was actually drafted on the third day at his home,
because of how frustrating that must have been and honestly
probably a little bit embarrassing. You put on this big party,
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you don't get picked the first day, then now you're
not getting picked the second day. It I could understand
why you would be a little bit embarrassed, but him
jumping into the swimming pools shows I am excited about
being an NFL quarterback. Seeing him talking to Miles Garrett
on the sidelines in this clip again, I think Chador
is miked up at that point. But how that conversation
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gets out, I don't know. I'm glad that we did, though,
because it was a good conversation where Shador was talking
about what he was doing in the backfield and a
couple of times did the spin move and Miles Garrett
was like, yeah, you're not gonna get away with that
in the in the in the regular season, and Sudor
also said, yeah, I'd love to see I'd love to
see your rip move and Miles Garrett's like, no, no,
(13:30):
you're not. But in the end he goes, hey, man,
we're gonna need you. We're And it was a really
good exchange because it was just Shaudor talking to one
of his teammates. It's all the extra stuff is that
that comes with it and I and it's it's brought
on by himself. And I know you're in the camp
of like this is the new way of the NFL,
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But I just don't know how much the NFL is
going to change. And I don't know if sa Door
Sanders is the guy to change it that way.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
It's not that he's gonna be the soul changer.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I think there are cameras everywhere for everything now, and
so when you have somebody who is entertaining, because let's
be real, the NFL sports are a form of entertainment.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
That's what this is.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
And as much as you want to say like these
are profession they are professional athletes.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
They're just like actors. There's athletes and actors. To me,
same deal, same deal.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
You're here to entertain and you're gonna make a lot
of money if you entertained. Well, he is entertaining alongside
being a professional athlete. And I don't think the NFL
is waiting for us.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Or the media or other people to humble him.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
I think if anyone humbles him, it's gonna be fellow
NFL players like a Miles Garrett. That's and it's gonna
happen in the locker room on a personal one on
one conversation.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
I don't want him to be humbled. I just want
him to be humble. Does that that makes sense? Like
I don't want bad stuff to happen to Shador Sander
for sure, and I don't want him to I don't
want him to go and throw four interceptions and have
people laugh at him and say ha ha. I just
think that there are certain things that are given and earned.
(15:16):
It goes back to the Colorado number deal.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Right right right of Oh.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
You're doing this because your dad's the head coach and
he's doing it. Like that's the point of Like where
I'm coming from is that's why I like to see
shaud Door Sanders jumping in the pool when he finds
out that he's being drafted. It's like I like seeing
him picking the brain of Miles Garrett. I don't like
him seeing kind of capturing an exchange with a reporter
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which wasn't malicious. They had a good exchange and a
laugh afterwards. Maybe showed you know, Shador a little bit
of who he is. But I don't think Tony GROSSI
really knew what was happening at that point, and that
feels like it's staged, just like the music stuff is staged.
If Shador just walked into the locker room on Friday night,
did his work and left, like amazing to me. But
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it's everything that comes with it, of the speaker, of
the camera, of the micd up. That's why he fell
to the fifth round. And at some point, I just
I just want a little bit of humbleness. I don't
want you to be humble, and I don't want you
to do poorly, but I don't want everything to be
a show.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
I hear you. I also don't want him to do poorly.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
I just think these antics might actually be organic for.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Shadore Sanders because of who his dad is.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yeah, Like I feel like this it's in him. Like
I know, it seems so scripted and so there's a
camera here. I just feel like it actually is really
organic for Shador and the family. Yes, And I guess
maybe that's that's why I'm saying, like I I think him,
none of this is gonna change. And when I say
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that he's gonna be humbled, I mean it in the
sense of like that he's going to be talking one
on one with an athlete who's you know, ten twelve
years veteran in the league, where maybe he starts to
just I'm going to say grow up a little bit,
because I think it's about growing up. But that happens
with life and experience, and that's going to happen eventually,
and that's where the organicness will come of him, like
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maybe you know, not being the way he is, but
I feel like this is all organic coming from Shador Sanders.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
And listen, you look at Dion's career and there really
wasn't anything for him to be humble about in his
football career, but baseball career there was a little bit.
And the late Tim McCarver actually at one point was
doused by gatorade because in the locker room, not in
a good way. Like Dion went this one when he
was playing baseball with the Braves, went and looked for
Tim McCarver and doused him because Tim McCarver had been
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critical of Dion in the past. That's something that Dion
didn't forget about. Dion wasn't All Star caliber baseball player
at that point, but he also wasn't because he's still
Deon Sanders. So to your point, I get it, like
there's there's no reason for Dan to ever be humble
on the football field. He was arguably it's the best
cornerback that we've had in the history of the NFL,
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like truly shut down corner. Maybe it wasn't great against
the run, but he was locking down half the field,
so there's no reason. And then special teams that could
go on and on. I think that I think your
point is is very well put, is that this is
this is part of the package, but this is also
part of the package in the NFL of why he
ends up being in the fifth round. And honestly, and
I'm willing to say it, while I said like I'd
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love to see just a little bit of humble humbleness
from him like this is this should be something that
Jerry Jones, you think would just absolutely eat.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Up if he would have.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
The chance to, and maybe there would be a you know,
another owner or to most of them not down with it. Absolutely,
they want their show to be their show, but they
also could feel that these things are distractions. If it's
not being a distraction to the Browns, good for them.
But Shador Sanders did solidify a spot in the NFL
just by doing what he did on Friday Night for
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the upcoming season and for years to come. I'm just
curious to see now what we're all going to get
from Shador moving forward, not only from the Brown side
of things, but also from the Sudor Sanders experience in
future games.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
I think we're all waiting for you.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
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you in the regular season when you're on the inactive
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are other things going on this weekend aside from Shador
Sanders's great debut for the Cleveland Browns. Moncey loved what
happened with the Jacksonville Jaguars. And we are not talking
about Travis Hunter.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
I did enjoy that as well.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Yes, Instead, we're talking about a little something else, and
that would be Cam little from seventy yards out. The
Jacksonville Jaguars kicker made a bit of preseason history by
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kicking a well that was then. Yeah, that was the
play on words, That's all it was. By making some
history this past weekend in their game against the Steelers.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Holy smokes, they got a shot. He just kicked us
seventy Are you kidding me? Crazy?
Speaker 1 (23:02):
The NFL record, That would be an NFL record in
the first half.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Holy smoke, that's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Jaguars preseason Television Network with the call and our guy
Bucky Brooks on it were you're here on Fox Sports Radio.
I felt like I've heard Bucky say that to me
about five times about bad takes of mind. Yeah, holy no,
Like that's crazy, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Holy smokes.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Uh, seventy yards from Cam Little that stood out to
you the most.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
I mean, how does it not stand out to anybody?
That is a game changer? If that becomes like a norm,
because imagine, now people are gonna be like, hold on,
if you can do this, then other people can do it.
Other people have to be able to kick this far
if you can do it, and every year it's gone
a little further.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
I mean, justin, Justin Tucker saved so many of.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
My fantasy football leagues with his kicks all the time,
left and right. Now, imagine if this becomes a more normal,
not even seventy, if sixty became normal.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Okay, sixty is becoming normal. It is, I will say that.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
You know, so we're pushing in that direction. That's a
game changer.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
It's there. There is something that has changed in the NFL.
And it's actually one of the reasons why indirectly the
kickoff rule on the new dynamic kickoff of why the
ball bringing out to the thirty five yard line now
instead of the twenty five yard line is such a
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big deal is because of what you are saying is
the way that the kickers have been able to kick,
where fifty seven fifty eight yarders are a lot more
commonplace than they ever have been. But what was so
surprising I think about Cam Little's seventy yard field goal
was that it wasn't done at Jerry's World on artificial turf.
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It wasn't done at Ford Field where Justin Tucker kicked
the sixty six yarder to beat the Lions, sorry Chris Purfett,
on a ball that hit the crossbar and then was
able to go over like it was. That was what
we felt the max was indoors on turf. This is
outdoors on a Saturday night in Jacksonville on grass, and
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that's and that's that to me is the game changing
portion of it, because I feel like with controlled conditions, Manzi,
that we can we get more of those longer kicks.
This was something that I feel Okay, now you moved
another step on that. On that track.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
He also didn't take like this big warm up to it.
He made it look easy. It was like he didn't run.
I would have ran from the other end zone to
try and.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Get it that far.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
He it looked like he barely tried to really get
it going before.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
I don't know if the Steelers have a really good
kick block scenario as well, where it would be different
if it was in the priest in a regular season
game as opposed to a preseason you know, having Cam
Hayward available for the Steelers and maybe a big paw
coming up somewhere and him blocking a kick because it
feels like half the battle is just the trajectory. But
(26:21):
do you know what else the Cam little kick did
to for me this past weekend is it reminded me
how ridiculous things got seventeen years ago in Oakland. Wait
a minute, break it, Janikowski out. Okay, there we go. Okay,
hold on, let's start to do the math on this.
(26:41):
This with the seventy six yards, this what's on would
be the all time record way, this would completely shatter
it with a three step start for a little NFL
history lecler on.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Behold, Janikowski hurts it as.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Hard as he can. It's not even to make get
to the day, just gonna be returned. So Lane Kiffin
pushed Sebastian Janakowski out for a seventy six yard field
goal in two thousand and eight in Week four against
the Chargers in Oakland on grass on a baseball diamond. Okay,
that's so we talk about we talk about all this progress, Manci.
(27:20):
I feel like we have, like Cam Little has pushed
the boundaries to now say seventy could happen. We've kind
of talked about it. Brandon Aubrey's got a great leg
for the Dallas Cowboys, like he could be a possibility.
Especially again if you're playing in Dallas, conditions are limited
unless the sun's glaring in your eyes. But again, artificial turf,
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that all works. But to me, it makes me. I
feel like, as time goes on, it shouldn't make the
Janakowski attempt more relatable, and I find it it just
gets more and more ridiculous every single time, so ridiculous.
It ended up being the final straw Lane Kiffin gets
up ends up being canned for a variety of other reasons,
according to Al Davis, than just sending Sebastian Janakowski out
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for a seventy six yard field goal. But when you
see the clip of Sebastian Janakowski kicking the seventy six yarder,
it's so foreign because you've never seen a field goal
unit so far away from the uprights. And any time
I have an opportunity to talk about that kick, I
am going to do so. Cam Little provided me that
opportunity today.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
I just why send him out to do that? Were
there was he expected to be able to hit that far?
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Yes? He did have. Janakowski had the strongest leg in
the NFL by far. That's why they and they took
up with the first round pick. By the way, when
he came into the NFL, Lan Kiffen wasn't a part
of that. But Janakowski had the strongest leg. But I
feel that it's also a bit of a bleep you.
I love the I love the absolute confidence. What was
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so disappointing was you heard Jim Nantz with the call
on CBS at that point, where, by the way, why
was Jim Dantz doing a Raiders game? No, I'm just
kidding Raiders fans it's just the fact that the ball
dropped at like the two yard line. Yeah, so it
was twelve yards short short of the goal line, and
then still needed to be about ten feet up because
he had to be up by the crossbar. So it
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was just woefully short, and lank Kiffen was just I
don't give a bleep mode, and that's why Sebastian Janakowski
was brought out for that seventy six yard field goal.
I you can remember that. I know you weren't doing
Chargers pre and post at that time, but it was
one of the more memorable.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
As I recall, the baseball infield was still at the
Posseum back then. Yes, I absolutely remember it.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Yes, one of my favorites. In fact, gosh, I got
it up on YouTube. They had just they had just
filled it in, that's what it was. So I thought
it was maybe on dirt with you as well, but
it was week four. Came out there. You can still
see like the darker grass because the sod didn't match
up with the other one. But one of my more memorable.
(30:01):
They were up fifteen to nothing, by the way, they
lost twenty eight to eighteen, and then lank Kevin lost
his job.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
There's a little history. That's what Cam little seven yard
field goal provided to me. Wait to you, Yeah, yeah
we got it because we got a copyright. We can't.
We got to keep that out of the podcast. I
was gonna say, yes, yes, yes, we can't. We can't.
I will say this. I saw Isaac in the studio
recording something. I thought he was just timing out his update.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
I thought he was talking to his mom or something.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
It was pretty demonstrative. I realized that he was dropping bars.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
It was more likely the ladder than the former.
Speaker 6 (30:36):
Yes, oh, I was actually talking to my mom man
dropping the bars.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Yes, great stuff.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
That so good.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
The song isn't bad either, like I will say, like
there are athletes who have made junk his songs. That
one is not bad.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Yeah, no, I can't get over. I was like, I'm sorry,
nothing matters right now.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
I well should our song?
Speaker 4 (31:00):
You know?
Speaker 1 (31:00):
He said it was perfect timing the Nike ad was
only a matter of time, only.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
A matter of time with his hand up like showing
his watch.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
And which is what he did in Colorado.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Yes, and the tea was capitalized, which he was like,
weird capitalization on it? On what shooters shouldn't be. But
if you would have stunk, would Nike have put out
a just don't do it again? You know, just don't
do it again.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
It was not the time, No, it was not the time.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Change your clocks. That's that's would have been the Nike ad.
If Shoulders Sanders would have been awful on Friday night,
but he wasn't. He was it and Cam Little wasn't
awful kicking a seventy yard field goal.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
It's been a good week one of the NFL preseason.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
But Monci people tend to overreact. They do. And if
you don't believe me, we're gonna give you evidence. And
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It is back son back, Say Collins walks it off
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Speaker 1 (33:06):
Brewers Radio Network the rally from down five to nothing
at one point, Brewers have now won nine straight. That's
a topic we've talked about. On Friday they did on
this Brewers team. I'm telling you my family and friends,
the local stations in that market. I saw a tweet
this weekend, would you sacrifice five seasons of the Packers
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making the playoffs, for the Brewers winning a World Series.
And I didn't see the vote total, but I think
someone do ten, Like I truly believe. Like it's not
like the Packers are winning Super Bowls left and right,
but for a lot of the fans, they've gotten not
only one, but two Super Bowl championships in their memory.
Where the Brewers, I mean, haven't been a World World
(33:48):
Series since nineteen eighty two. They've never won a World
Series as a franchise. And it's one of those things
wants to where the city is completely falling in love
with this core of teams.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Yeah, this team, Yeah, the squad.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Yes, absolutely, And it helps when you have the best
team in baseball and it helps him. You have the
nine game win streak, and you've had win streaks throughout
the season, and you've had this comeback. I get all that,
but there does seem to be people in Milwaukee are
starting to think, could this really be our year?
Speaker 2 (34:20):
It really does seem like the stars are aligning for
this team, and in baseball, that's when it happens. There's
a little bit of magic in baseball. But we couldn't
play the walk off by Shoho Tani.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Oh, okay, got it. That didn't happen. That's how the
game ended.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Ah struck out with the bases loaded and went out
at the bottom of the ninth inning.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Ah, it was so frustrating.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
I'll tell you what Shoho Tani did yesterday. I told
you it was.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Aquarium Day, for it was aquarium.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Took my son to the aquarium. He loved it, bought
some overpriced toys, and then we stopped at one of
the restaurants near the aquarium and they had the Dodger
game on and it was the bottom of the ninth
inning and I said, okay, I can't leave until Otani
gets yes. And then he struck out. And just to
tell you the Otani effect on me, bottom of the
(35:07):
ninth two outs, bases loaded, Dodgers down by one, Otani
strikes out to make it two outs. We left like
like we could have stayed to see if the Dodgers
actually won the game or tied it, but it was
just more to see if Otani had the heroics exactly.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
No, I think everybody was waiting for that heroic moment. Yeah,
and then it didn't go that way.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Bo Bo Benson is our executive producer Bo Manzi loved
the Cam Little field goal. We talked about the Shoud
or Sanders game on Friday. Anything else stand out to
you in Week one of the preseason on a small
level or maybe maybe as a whole.
Speaker 6 (35:45):
Yeah, I mean I intently watched Stetson Bennett play pretty
well for the Rams. I as a nerd, I watched
five to eleven Willie Lampkin that the Rams picked up
as a UDFA pancake four separate Cowboys in his playing time.
I hate making bold proclamations in the preseason, but I
genuinely think the Cowboys might actually be bad this year.
(36:07):
You guys, Wow, they might be completely awful.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Could completely crawl. According to Bo Benson, I'm gonna have
Chris Burfed get our NFL on Fox Music, because this
is what happens after Week one, Monci, this is what happens.
Both thinks the Cowboys just could be atrocious. Some people
think Stetson Bennet could be a starting quarterback in the
National Football League, something that George Sanders could be the
best quarterback we've seen in the National Football League. That's
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what Week one of the NFL preseason does to us.
How do I know these were the stories. Last year.
At Week one of the NFL preseason twenty twenty four edition,
Will Levis led touchdown drives on both of his series
as the Tennessee Titans beat the forty nine Ers seventeen
to thirteen on Saturday night in the team's preseason opener.
(36:56):
Head coach Brian Callahan said after the game, quote, anytime
he could come in and put two scores on the board,
just to start out with our offense being a new
unit with new faces, I think that's a positive. It's
nice to have success in preseason games. I think it's
important to sustain success and build some winning habits. That
was Week one. That's what they were saying about Will
(37:17):
Levis last year.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Emn Will Levis, this is not a good example.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
There was more from that Titans win over the forty
nine ers last year. Third string quarterback Milik Willis, because
remember Mason Rudolph was in Nashville as well, directed a
scoring drive in the fourth quarter that resulted in a
thirty four yard field goal kicked by rookie Brandon Narvisin
The reason I bring up Milik Willis is because also
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in Week one of last year, the Green Bay Packers
went to Cleveland atop the Browns twenty three to ten,
as Sean Clifford may have solidified his spot as Green
Bay's number two quarterback, completing ten of nineteen passes for
one hundred and eleven yards. The former Penn State standout
attempt to just one pass as a rookie in twenty
twenty five. The reason that's interesting, Manzi, is because Clifford
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ended up being cut and then signed to the team's
practice squad. Because the Packers acquired Malik Willis in a
trade prior to Week one from the Tennessee Titans last year,
and of course Malik Willis was expendable because will Levis
had a two touchdown performance game for the Titans in
that opener. See what I'm getting at, See what I'm
getting at For a Week one preseason.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
You're ruining a NFL preseason ten.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
I'm just telling you you're being is so okay.
Speaker 6 (38:32):
In fairness, will Levis did throw a game when he
touched on in Week one of the actual NFL season
last year. It was just to the other team.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
There you go, voice of reason, And because I don't
want to make it so one sided, the Commanders lost
to the Jets twenty to seventeen last year in the
preseason opener, but former LSU starred Jaden Daniels and most
of the Commander starters and offense played just the opening series,
and the young quarterback kept it going on a second
pass when he connected with Diami Brown for forty two
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yards on a third and six from the Washington thirty
four yard line. Dan Quinn said that Daniels actually checked
out of a shorter play before throwing the ball deep.
So in week one, Jadeen Daniels was showing that he
was special, right, And dan Quinn's like he wanted to
ask for forgiveness instead of permission. So just take that
(39:22):
with a grain of salt. It's not all blooney moncey
in week one, right, right, but.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
It really does put things into perspective.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Most of it is beloney, including Sean McVeigh and when
he told us about Matthew Stafford and what Matthew Stafford
was going to do this week, it's boloney. It's on
Cavino and Rich next
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Speaker 3 (00:31):
Let's go. Let's go. Say, let's go New week, Let's go,
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Speaker 1 (00:39):
Comun and Rich. By the way, we're in for Dan
Patrick early. I need some ice after this past weekend.
Can't wait. I went to some aquarium, not to some
aquarium as the Long Beach, not just some random one
in someone's backyard. But we had a good time. Manzies here,
I'm here, so is Bo Benton. Our executive producer, Chris
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Profedes here, Hello, Chris, Hello, Hello, Hello, And as glowing
crowd is at the news desk, salutations. We are hanging
out on a Monday for the guys. As again they
were in for dan Patrick, and the topic of conversation
still goes back to what happened on Friday. As you
and I were in for Cavino and Rich that day,
Shador Sanders was entering the stadium its Charlotte with a
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speaker behind him, which is part of the whole story. Well,
we're still talking about Shudor Sanders because it seems like
maybe things haven't changed as much as we thought in
Cleveland by how reps had gone in practice and the
word from Kevin Stefanski who still doesn't know a plan
for their second preseason game. But Manzi, for what was
preseason week one in the NFL, it sure feels like
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Shudor Sanders was headline number one, even though it happened
back on Friday night.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
It definitely was headline number one, and we talked about it,
we chatted about it.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
I am glad to say that here we.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Are now that it's past that he at least of
dub to that moment of him walking in with the
music and the teammates and whatnot, because he did. He
had a good outing out there. Yes, it was a
preseason game. To do what you want with that information,
but I thought he looked good. He had some nice
throws in tight coverage, he avoided the sack and got
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rid of the ball quick enough. There were moments where
he looked good when you didn't know what you were
gonna get, because the reports and the rumors that we
get is that he took the least amount of first
team reps this entire time.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
So what were you going.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
To get throwing him out there? People saying he's set
up for failure. Listen, He to me lived up to it,
which is exactly what he needed to do because of
the entrance he made. Had he made that entrance and
not played well or at least looked good in a
preseason debut, who knows what the storyline would be today.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
And when you say entrance, you actually mean the physical
entrance of him walking into the stadium, right, not just this,
not on the general thought now entering your professional career.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
No, no, no, I mean the way he chose to come
into this game with music and I called him entourage,
but current players that are on the team with him
that I was unfamiliar with music, a nice big chain. No,
he was ready for more than a preseason game.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
He's going to be the story again. Throughout the preseason,
whether he plays or doesn't play, or however the Browns
end up handling his situation in Cleveland. What I find
unique about this whole scenario, Manzi, is I think everything
that we got Friday is everything we've gotten in the
past four months or so since Shudor Sanders came into
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the National Football League, and it's everything that's around him
that's part of the conversation. I think that there are
glimpses where you just look at him as should Or Sanders. Yes,
as twenty something young quarterback entering the National Football League.
There are very few times, though, where that shines out,
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and you're right, he played well. He was the story,
especially considering what was given to him leading up to
that point. As you said, there were some who said
that the Browns were trying to make should Or Sanders
to be in a situation where he was set up
to fail and do so in front of the eyes
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of everyone, which would have been dirty pool. I would
not want to work for a coach like that. I
would never want to play for an organization like that.
That just wouldn't be fair. But shoud Or Sanders did
what he needed to do as a professional quarterback now
and then ended up balling out by throwing two touchdown
passes and making good throws. But I think there's more
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to this story because I feel that for the last
since he was drafted in April, so it's May, June, July, August,
approaching four months as should or Sanders as a professional,
and even through the draft process before that more moncy.
You've been on one side of the other. You've been
either anti Shad or Sanders or you have been all
(05:02):
for Shaud or Sanders. And I don't think anything this
weekend brought anyone together. What I think it did is
it may have pushed us moral part where if you're
not on the side of Sanders, you have excuses on
why he played well, and if you were on the
side of Sanders, my goodness, Friday was Christmas morning, like
the gifts were just there, they were under the tree.
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And I think that ends up being the whole package
with Shad or Sanders. And I think that's actually a
little bit of the problem when we look at Shador.
But Friday night was a big win for those that
are backing Shaudor.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I mean, it can be a problem, but if the
antics are there and his play is still there, then
I guess I don't see the problem.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Everyone is waiting for him to fail or to succeed.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Right.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
He's a little bit of the.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Angel Reese Caitlin Clark situation where you're split. You feel
really strongly about Shador Sanders one way or the other.
But Nike had a damn I'm ad ready dan for
after the game. If he would not have played well,
I doubt Nike was gonna put that ad out.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
My point is the.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Reputation, the personality, the antics, the things that rub people
the wrong way that maybe you could even argue were
the reasons that Caleb Williams rub people the wrong way. Different,
but still the antics that come with these new rookies
coming into the NFL. They're starting to not matter less
and less, especially if he continues.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
To deliver play all.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Back it up, Yes, it's not gonna matter.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
You'd be like, fine, go ahead, out with your boombox,
go ahead.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I'm not anti Shador Sanders, and I don't think you
are either, but I think I would be in the
part of where I try to look at NFL reality
and I try to take what it is and the
NFL reality I thought a week ago was teams just
don't carry that many quarterbacks. So when Andrew Berry was asked, like,
is there a possibility that you could keep four quarterbacks
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on this team? It's not a directed answer. This question
leaves some opportunity for leeway and wiggle room, and Barry
took it and said, yeah, I could. I could see
that opportunity. Fifth rounders have been cut before. They have that.
It's not a common deal more six and seventh rounders,
So a fifth rounder being cut would be a little
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bit strange. But should wear being the fourth quarterback? I
just didn't see it until last week, Bonzi. I didn't
see a situation in the NFL where that is common.
I thought that there could be a possibility where Shauduur
doesn't make it because of all of the reps that
are going to Dylan Gabriel, Kenny Pickett, and Joe Flacco. Well,
now I think this is solidified as spot on the team.
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But why I think Friday night was was so it
was such a clear picture of where we are is
because Schaudeur at everything backed against him in terms of preparation, familiarity,
and now spotlight. He couldn't make the mistakes in this
that other quarterbacks do. Now, it was going to be
on national TV and a game setting in front of
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opposing fans. That's not really fair. But Shadoor says, and
I guess maybe to what you're saying his credit, should
Or says, I'm gonna be Shador. I'm going to walk
in with music blaring behind me, whether it's week one
of a preseason game or maybe even a super Bowl.
And I think that that portion of it is like, Okay,
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it's it's pre season here, what are we doing? Like
you haven't even started. But they're sticking to the script,
just like Nike is, like, we're sticking to it. Then
it was pointed out that it was one of his
teammates that was holding the speaker as they walked in.
Nobody knows that, nobody knows who that player is. So
the perception of shad Or Sanders continues. It's should Or
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walking in with his legendary chain playing his own single
and somebody that we don't know behind him carrying a boombox.
But it's also this shoud Or Sanders talking with a
Tony Grossi, the longtime Cleveland reporter, about why can't you
just say something nice about me. You're always negative about me.
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And the Sanders camp was like, see look at this,
Shador Sanders puts reporter in his place. Why was the
camera rolling at that point? Was why was there a
microphone there at that point? Like, that's that's part of
the deal and the biggest picture to me, Monty. That's
why he fell to the fifth round. He fell to
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the fifth round because teams don't want players walking in
with a speaker behind them in week one of a
preseason game. Teams don't want camera crews following a player around.
The NFL, for whatever it is, wants players in how
they want it and in their script and how it's
laid out. Individuality isn't necessarily embraced in the National Football League.
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And so when we see all of this, and kudos
to Shador for playing great on Friday, but this also
answers why he fell to the fifth round. He could play,
maybe not as well as mild kiper thought, but he
could play. He can play. He showed it on Friday night.
But there's everything that comes with it, and that's in
essence why we got the full Shador Sanders experience on
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Friday night.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Yeah, I hear what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
I just think that maybe he is the beginning of
something that's going to change in the NFL. I don't
think this is going to be the last type of
player that comes into the NFL.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Like Shador Sanders. He may just be I think it
started with Kayleb Williams.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
The individuality that you're talking about, And yeah, people aren't
used to it when it comes to the NFL, But
in Shadoor Sanders, that script, they're loving it. That camera,
Why was that camera there? Why Didn'tike have the ad?
This is what they want. This is the story of
Shador Sanders is so intriguing to everybody. Even people who
pretend they don't care, they're paying attention to Shador Sanders.
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They want to know what's going on. They may not
chime in, but they're listening and they're paying attention. And
it is such a discussion. And I agree with you.
If you were wondering why he dropped in the draft,
that is why. But he's also proving who cares? If
I have antics?
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Who cares? At least that's what's happening right now.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Maybe I'm eating my words in a couple of months,
right but right now it's working.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
I well it worked on Friday night.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Oh yeah, well there's nothing else to compare it to
right now.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yes, yes, so so far it's working. So far are
the accounts of the reports that we got from the
athletic and other sources. In practice, today it was business
as usual. Joe Flacco getting the work with the ones.
Can He Pickett got some work in today after he
was injured. Dylan Gabriel did some work with the twos.
Don't know the exact workload of should or Sanders, but
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should or Sanders at least on Friday night prove that
he's going to be in the NFL, whether it be
in Cleveland or somewhere else exactly, and is may that
may never have been a question, but now there's value
to him to the point of if there is an
team that is out there looking, maybe the Browns can
end up making a trade if they aren't settled on
should Or. Kevin Stefanski says, they don't know what their
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plan is going to be for week two and won't
know that until Wednesday or Thursday of this preseason. Decide
what they're going to do this weekend, So all of
that's left up in the air, but what he did
on Friday night solidified his spot in the National Football League,
whether it be in Cleveland or somewhere else. I just wonder, Manci,
at one point, at what point do we try to
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make it natural? What point do we try to make
it organic? Because what I loved most about should Or
Sanders was seeing him jump in the pool when he
was actually drafted on the third day at his home,
because of how frustrating that must have been and honestly
probably a little bit embarrassing. You put on this big party,
(12:49):
you don't get picked the first day, then now you're
not getting picked the second day. It I could understand
why you would be a little bit embarrassed, but him
jumping into the swimming pools shows I am excited about
being an NFL quarterback. Seeing him talking to Miles Garrett
on the sidelines in this clip again, I think Chador
is miked up at that point. But how that conversation
(13:10):
gets out, I don't know. I'm glad that we did, though,
because it was a good conversation where Shador was talking
about what he was doing in the backfield and a
couple of times did the spin move and Miles Garrett
was like, yeah, you're not gonna get away with that
in the in the in the regular season, and Sudor
also said, yeah, I'd love to see I'd love to
see your rip move and Miles Garrett's like, no, no,
(13:30):
you're not. But in the end he goes, hey, man,
we're gonna need you. We're And it was a really
good exchange because it was just Shaudor talking to one
of his teammates. It's all the extra stuff is that
that comes with it and I and it's it's brought
on by himself. And I know you're in the camp
of like this is the new way of the NFL,
(13:52):
But I just don't know how much the NFL is
going to change. And I don't know if sa Door
Sanders is the guy to change it that way.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
It's not that he's gonna be the soul changer.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I think there are cameras everywhere for everything now, and
so when you have somebody who is entertaining, because let's
be real, the NFL sports are a form of entertainment.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
That's what this is.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
And as much as you want to say like these
are profession they are professional athletes.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
They're just like actors. There's athletes and actors. To me,
same deal, same deal.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
You're here to entertain and you're gonna make a lot
of money if you entertained. Well, he is entertaining alongside
being a professional athlete. And I don't think the NFL
is waiting for us.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Or the media or other people to humble him.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
I think if anyone humbles him, it's gonna be fellow
NFL players like a Miles Garrett. That's and it's gonna
happen in the locker room on a personal one on
one conversation.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
I don't want him to be humbled. I just want
him to be humble. Does that that makes sense? Like
I don't want bad stuff to happen to Shador Sander
for sure, and I don't want him to I don't
want him to go and throw four interceptions and have
people laugh at him and say ha ha. I just
think that there are certain things that are given and earned.
(15:16):
It goes back to the Colorado number deal.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Right right right of Oh.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
You're doing this because your dad's the head coach and
he's doing it. Like that's the point of Like where
I'm coming from is that's why I like to see
shaud Door Sanders jumping in the pool when he finds
out that he's being drafted. It's like I like seeing
him picking the brain of Miles Garrett. I don't like
him seeing kind of capturing an exchange with a reporter
(15:42):
which wasn't malicious. They had a good exchange and a
laugh afterwards. Maybe showed you know, Shador a little bit
of who he is. But I don't think Tony GROSSI
really knew what was happening at that point, and that
feels like it's staged, just like the music stuff is staged.
If Shador just walked into the locker room on Friday night,
did his work and left, like amazing to me. But
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it's everything that comes with it, of the speaker, of
the camera, of the micd up. That's why he fell
to the fifth round. And at some point, I just
I just want a little bit of humbleness. I don't
want you to be humble, and I don't want you
to do poorly, but I don't want everything to be
a show.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
I hear you. I also don't want him to do poorly.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
I just think these antics might actually be organic for.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Shadore Sanders because of who his dad is.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yeah, Like I feel like this it's in him. Like
I know, it seems so scripted and so there's a
camera here. I just feel like it actually is really
organic for Shador and the family. Yes, And I guess
maybe that's that's why I'm saying, like I I think him,
none of this is gonna change. And when I say
(16:57):
that he's gonna be humbled, I mean it in the
sense of like that he's going to be talking one
on one with an athlete who's you know, ten twelve
years veteran in the league, where maybe he starts to
just I'm going to say grow up a little bit,
because I think it's about growing up. But that happens
with life and experience, and that's going to happen eventually,
and that's where the organicness will come of him, like
(17:20):
maybe you know, not being the way he is, but
I feel like this is all organic coming from Shador Sanders.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
And listen, you look at Dion's career and there really
wasn't anything for him to be humble about in his
football career, but baseball career there was a little bit.
And the late Tim McCarver actually at one point was
doused by gatorade because in the locker room, not in
a good way. Like Dion went this one when he
was playing baseball with the Braves, went and looked for
Tim McCarver and doused him because Tim McCarver had been
(17:50):
critical of Dion in the past. That's something that Dion
didn't forget about. Dion wasn't All Star caliber baseball player
at that point, but he also wasn't because he's still
Deon Sanders. So to your point, I get it, like
there's there's no reason for Dan to ever be humble
on the football field. He was arguably it's the best
cornerback that we've had in the history of the NFL,
(18:11):
like truly shut down corner. Maybe it wasn't great against
the run, but he was locking down half the field,
so there's no reason. And then special teams that could
go on and on. I think that I think your
point is is very well put, is that this is
this is part of the package, but this is also
part of the package in the NFL of why he
ends up being in the fifth round. And honestly, and
I'm willing to say it, while I said like I'd
(18:32):
love to see just a little bit of humble humbleness
from him like this is this should be something that
Jerry Jones, you think would just absolutely eat.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Up if he would have.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
The chance to, and maybe there would be a you know,
another owner or to most of them not down with it. Absolutely,
they want their show to be their show, but they
also could feel that these things are distractions. If it's
not being a distraction to the Browns, good for them.
But Shador Sanders did solidify a spot in the NFL
just by doing what he did on Friday Night for
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the upcoming season and for years to come. I'm just
curious to see now what we're all going to get
from Shador moving forward, not only from the Brown side
of things, but also from the Sudor Sanders experience in
future games.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
I think we're all waiting for you.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
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are other things going on this weekend aside from Shador
Sanders's great debut for the Cleveland Browns. Moncey loved what
happened with the Jacksonville Jaguars. And we are not talking
about Travis Hunter.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
I did enjoy that as well.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Yes, Instead, we're talking about a little something else, and
that would be Cam little from seventy yards out. The
Jacksonville Jaguars kicker made a bit of preseason history by
(22:40):
kicking a well that was then. Yeah, that was the
play on words, That's all it was. By making some
history this past weekend in their game against the Steelers.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Holy smokes, they got a shot. He just kicked us
seventy Are you kidding me? Crazy?
Speaker 1 (23:02):
The NFL record, That would be an NFL record in
the first half.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Holy smoke, that's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Jaguars preseason Television Network with the call and our guy
Bucky Brooks on it were you're here on Fox Sports Radio.
I felt like I've heard Bucky say that to me
about five times about bad takes of mind. Yeah, holy no,
Like that's crazy, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Holy smokes.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Uh, seventy yards from Cam Little that stood out to
you the most.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
I mean, how does it not stand out to anybody?
That is a game changer? If that becomes like a norm,
because imagine, now people are gonna be like, hold on,
if you can do this, then other people can do it.
Other people have to be able to kick this far
if you can do it, and every year it's gone
a little further.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
I mean, justin, Justin Tucker saved so many of.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
My fantasy football leagues with his kicks all the time,
left and right. Now, imagine if this becomes a more normal,
not even seventy, if sixty became normal.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Okay, sixty is becoming normal. It is, I will say that.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
You know, so we're pushing in that direction. That's a
game changer.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
It's there. There is something that has changed in the NFL.
And it's actually one of the reasons why indirectly the
kickoff rule on the new dynamic kickoff of why the
ball bringing out to the thirty five yard line now
instead of the twenty five yard line is such a
(24:34):
big deal is because of what you are saying is
the way that the kickers have been able to kick,
where fifty seven fifty eight yarders are a lot more
commonplace than they ever have been. But what was so
surprising I think about Cam Little's seventy yard field goal
was that it wasn't done at Jerry's World on artificial turf.
(24:57):
It wasn't done at Ford Field where Justin Tucker kicked
the sixty six yarder to beat the Lions, sorry Chris Purfett,
on a ball that hit the crossbar and then was
able to go over like it was. That was what
we felt the max was indoors on turf. This is
outdoors on a Saturday night in Jacksonville on grass, and
(25:23):
that's and that's that to me is the game changing
portion of it, because I feel like with controlled conditions, Manzi,
that we can we get more of those longer kicks.
This was something that I feel Okay, now you moved
another step on that. On that track.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
He also didn't take like this big warm up to it.
He made it look easy. It was like he didn't run.
I would have ran from the other end zone to
try and.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Get it that far.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
He it looked like he barely tried to really get
it going before.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
I don't know if the Steelers have a really good
kick block scenario as well, where it would be different
if it was in the priest in a regular season
game as opposed to a preseason you know, having Cam
Hayward available for the Steelers and maybe a big paw
coming up somewhere and him blocking a kick because it
feels like half the battle is just the trajectory. But
(26:21):
do you know what else the Cam little kick did
to for me this past weekend is it reminded me
how ridiculous things got seventeen years ago in Oakland. Wait
a minute, break it, Janikowski out. Okay, there we go. Okay,
hold on, let's start to do the math on this.
(26:41):
This with the seventy six yards, this what's on would
be the all time record way, this would completely shatter
it with a three step start for a little NFL
history lecler on.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Behold, Janikowski hurts it as.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Hard as he can. It's not even to make get
to the day, just gonna be returned. So Lane Kiffin
pushed Sebastian Janakowski out for a seventy six yard field
goal in two thousand and eight in Week four against
the Chargers in Oakland on grass on a baseball diamond. Okay,
that's so we talk about we talk about all this progress, Manci.
(27:20):
I feel like we have, like Cam Little has pushed
the boundaries to now say seventy could happen. We've kind
of talked about it. Brandon Aubrey's got a great leg
for the Dallas Cowboys, like he could be a possibility.
Especially again if you're playing in Dallas, conditions are limited
unless the sun's glaring in your eyes. But again, artificial turf,
(27:42):
that all works. But to me, it makes me. I
feel like, as time goes on, it shouldn't make the
Janakowski attempt more relatable, and I find it it just
gets more and more ridiculous every single time, so ridiculous.
It ended up being the final straw Lane Kiffin gets
up ends up being canned for a variety of other reasons,
according to Al Davis, than just sending Sebastian Janakowski out
(28:05):
for a seventy six yard field goal. But when you
see the clip of Sebastian Janakowski kicking the seventy six yarder,
it's so foreign because you've never seen a field goal
unit so far away from the uprights. And any time
I have an opportunity to talk about that kick, I
am going to do so. Cam Little provided me that
opportunity today.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
I just why send him out to do that? Were
there was he expected to be able to hit that far?
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Yes? He did have. Janakowski had the strongest leg in
the NFL by far. That's why they and they took
up with the first round pick. By the way, when
he came into the NFL, Lan Kiffen wasn't a part
of that. But Janakowski had the strongest leg. But I
feel that it's also a bit of a bleep you.
I love the I love the absolute confidence. What was
(28:54):
so disappointing was you heard Jim Nantz with the call
on CBS at that point, where, by the way, why
was Jim Dantz doing a Raiders game? No, I'm just
kidding Raiders fans it's just the fact that the ball
dropped at like the two yard line. Yeah, so it
was twelve yards short short of the goal line, and
then still needed to be about ten feet up because
he had to be up by the crossbar. So it
(29:16):
was just woefully short, and lank Kiffen was just I
don't give a bleep mode, and that's why Sebastian Janakowski
was brought out for that seventy six yard field goal.
I you can remember that. I know you weren't doing
Chargers pre and post at that time, but it was
one of the more memorable.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
As I recall, the baseball infield was still at the
Posseum back then. Yes, I absolutely remember it.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Yes, one of my favorites. In fact, gosh, I got
it up on YouTube. They had just they had just
filled it in, that's what it was. So I thought
it was maybe on dirt with you as well, but
it was week four. Came out there. You can still
see like the darker grass because the sod didn't match
up with the other one. But one of my more memorable.
(30:01):
They were up fifteen to nothing, by the way, they
lost twenty eight to eighteen, and then lank Kevin lost
his job.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
There's a little history. That's what Cam little seven yard
field goal provided to me. Wait to you, Yeah, yeah
we got it because we got a copyright. We can't.
We got to keep that out of the podcast. I
was gonna say, yes, yes, yes, we can't. We can't.
I will say this. I saw Isaac in the studio
recording something. I thought he was just timing out his update.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
I thought he was talking to his mom or something.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
It was pretty demonstrative. I realized that he was dropping bars.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
It was more likely the ladder than the former.
Speaker 6 (30:36):
Yes, oh, I was actually talking to my mom man
dropping the bars.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Yes, great stuff.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
That so good.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
The song isn't bad either, like I will say, like
there are athletes who have made junk his songs. That
one is not bad.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Yeah, no, I can't get over. I was like, I'm sorry,
nothing matters right now.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
I well should our song?
Speaker 4 (31:00):
You know?
Speaker 1 (31:00):
He said it was perfect timing the Nike ad was
only a matter of time, only.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
A matter of time with his hand up like showing
his watch.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
And which is what he did in Colorado.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Yes, and the tea was capitalized, which he was like,
weird capitalization on it? On what shooters shouldn't be. But
if you would have stunk, would Nike have put out
a just don't do it again? You know, just don't
do it again.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
It was not the time, No, it was not the time.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Change your clocks. That's that's would have been the Nike ad.
If Shoulders Sanders would have been awful on Friday night,
but he wasn't. He was it and Cam Little wasn't
awful kicking a seventy yard field goal.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
It's been a good week one of the NFL preseason.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
But Monci people tend to overreact. They do. And if
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Brewers Radio Network the rally from down five to nothing
at one point, Brewers have now won nine straight. That's
a topic we've talked about. On Friday they did on
this Brewers team. I'm telling you my family and friends,
the local stations in that market. I saw a tweet
this weekend, would you sacrifice five seasons of the Packers
(33:27):
making the playoffs, for the Brewers winning a World Series.
And I didn't see the vote total, but I think
someone do ten, Like I truly believe. Like it's not
like the Packers are winning Super Bowls left and right,
but for a lot of the fans, they've gotten not
only one, but two Super Bowl championships in their memory.
Where the Brewers, I mean, haven't been a World World
(33:48):
Series since nineteen eighty two. They've never won a World
Series as a franchise. And it's one of those things
wants to where the city is completely falling in love
with this core of teams.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Yeah, this team, Yeah, the squad.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Yes, absolutely, And it helps when you have the best
team in baseball and it helps him. You have the
nine game win streak, and you've had win streaks throughout
the season, and you've had this comeback. I get all that,
but there does seem to be people in Milwaukee are
starting to think, could this really be our year?
Speaker 2 (34:20):
It really does seem like the stars are aligning for
this team, and in baseball, that's when it happens. There's
a little bit of magic in baseball. But we couldn't
play the walk off by Shoho Tani.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Oh, okay, got it. That didn't happen. That's how the
game ended.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Ah struck out with the bases loaded and went out
at the bottom of the ninth inning.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Ah, it was so frustrating.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
I'll tell you what Shoho Tani did yesterday. I told
you it was.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Aquarium Day, for it was aquarium.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Took my son to the aquarium. He loved it, bought
some overpriced toys, and then we stopped at one of
the restaurants near the aquarium and they had the Dodger
game on and it was the bottom of the ninth
inning and I said, okay, I can't leave until Otani
gets yes. And then he struck out. And just to
tell you the Otani effect on me, bottom of the
(35:07):
ninth two outs, bases loaded, Dodgers down by one, Otani
strikes out to make it two outs. We left like
like we could have stayed to see if the Dodgers
actually won the game or tied it, but it was
just more to see if Otani had the heroics exactly.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
No, I think everybody was waiting for that heroic moment. Yeah,
and then it didn't go that way.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Bo Bo Benson is our executive producer Bo Manzi loved
the Cam Little field goal. We talked about the Shoud
or Sanders game on Friday. Anything else stand out to
you in Week one of the preseason on a small
level or maybe maybe as a whole.
Speaker 6 (35:45):
Yeah, I mean I intently watched Stetson Bennett play pretty
well for the Rams. I as a nerd, I watched
five to eleven Willie Lampkin that the Rams picked up
as a UDFA pancake four separate Cowboys in his playing time.
I hate making bold proclamations in the preseason, but I
genuinely think the Cowboys might actually be bad this year.
(36:07):
You guys, Wow, they might be completely awful.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Could completely crawl. According to Bo Benson, I'm gonna have
Chris Burfed get our NFL on Fox Music, because this
is what happens after Week one, Monci, this is what happens.
Both thinks the Cowboys just could be atrocious. Some people
think Stetson Bennet could be a starting quarterback in the
National Football League, something that George Sanders could be the
best quarterback we've seen in the National Football League. That's
(36:34):
what Week one of the NFL preseason does to us.
How do I know these were the stories. Last year.
At Week one of the NFL preseason twenty twenty four edition,
Will Levis led touchdown drives on both of his series
as the Tennessee Titans beat the forty nine Ers seventeen
to thirteen on Saturday night in the team's preseason opener.
(36:56):
Head coach Brian Callahan said after the game, quote, anytime
he could come in and put two scores on the board,
just to start out with our offense being a new
unit with new faces, I think that's a positive. It's
nice to have success in preseason games. I think it's
important to sustain success and build some winning habits. That
was Week one. That's what they were saying about Will
(37:17):
Levis last year.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Emn Will Levis, this is not a good example.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
There was more from that Titans win over the forty
nine ers last year. Third string quarterback Milik Willis, because
remember Mason Rudolph was in Nashville as well, directed a
scoring drive in the fourth quarter that resulted in a
thirty four yard field goal kicked by rookie Brandon Narvisin
The reason I bring up Milik Willis is because also
(37:43):
in Week one of last year, the Green Bay Packers
went to Cleveland atop the Browns twenty three to ten,
as Sean Clifford may have solidified his spot as Green
Bay's number two quarterback, completing ten of nineteen passes for
one hundred and eleven yards. The former Penn State standout
attempt to just one pass as a rookie in twenty
twenty five. The reason that's interesting, Manzi, is because Clifford
(38:04):
ended up being cut and then signed to the team's
practice squad. Because the Packers acquired Malik Willis in a
trade prior to Week one from the Tennessee Titans last year,
and of course Malik Willis was expendable because will Levis
had a two touchdown performance game for the Titans in
that opener. See what I'm getting at, See what I'm
getting at For a Week one preseason.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
You're ruining a NFL preseason ten.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
I'm just telling you you're being is so okay.
Speaker 6 (38:32):
In fairness, will Levis did throw a game when he
touched on in Week one of the actual NFL season
last year. It was just to the other team.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
There you go, voice of reason, And because I don't
want to make it so one sided, the Commanders lost
to the Jets twenty to seventeen last year in the
preseason opener, but former LSU starred Jaden Daniels and most
of the Commander starters and offense played just the opening series,
and the young quarterback kept it going on a second
pass when he connected with Diami Brown for forty two
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yards on a third and six from the Washington thirty
four yard line. Dan Quinn said that Daniels actually checked
out of a shorter play before throwing the ball deep.
So in week one, Jadeen Daniels was showing that he
was special, right, And dan Quinn's like he wanted to
ask for forgiveness instead of permission. So just take that
(39:22):
with a grain of salt. It's not all blooney moncey
in week one, right, right, but.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
It really does put things into perspective.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Most of it is beloney, including Sean McVeigh and when
he told us about Matthew Stafford and what Matthew Stafford
was going to do this week, it's boloney. It's on
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