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Dan and Monse in for C&R as they dispute Denzel Washington's claim that he has been a Cowboys' fan since the '60's. Dan and Monse take calls on Denzel's claim. Dan tells the story of when he almost became a bandwagon fan.

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was eating cold pizza, but I also brought.

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A yogurt to work good for you Friday.

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Then I opened the lid and it splattered all over
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a funeral today. With Michigan's punishments handed down, it was
anything but and me getting yogurt all over my sleeve
and whatnot is a perfect description of how it felt
when those NCAA punishments came down. But Monty, Yes, that's
a good that's a good point to the past. We're gonna,

(00:47):
we're gonna, we're gonna move on from it because it's Friday.
Here On and Rich Friday, Friday, Friday, Friday Friday Friday
rocking out with Isaac Glow and Crowd, Jason Stewart, Crisperfats.
She is Moncey Blagos. I'm Dan Byer in for Cavino
and Rich. It's been quite the week. It wasn't just

(01:07):
Michigan getting their penalties today.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
It was, as we.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
Talked about Taylor Swift on the New Heights podcast, a
lot's been going on as football is around the corner.
A week from tomorrow, week zero of the NFL of
the college football season. Excuse me, will start no preseason
games last night. That was a little different, not having
it on a on a Thursday and week two of
the NFL preseason. But we get games tonight, so we

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are we are a fast approaching football season. And one
football fan is not happy with his current team. This
also happened earlier this week. But it opens up a
bigger question. And this is where Moncey and I and
the crew want your inputs. All right, eight seven to seven,
nine to nine on Fox eight seven seven nine nine

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six six three sixty nine. You can find Moncy on
X at Monzy Blagos, you can find me on X
Dan Byer on Fox. We're talking about bandwagons. That's what
we're talking about. One A list movie star said earlier
this week, in so many words, he is not a

(02:14):
bandwagon fan. But that wasn't his point. His point was
he's fed up with his current team. That star is
Denzel Washington. His team, the one with the star on
the helmet, the Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 5 (02:30):
I've been a Cowboy fan since the sixties. He's making
it hard for me not to be a fan because
I'm still a Cowboy fan. I'm still gonna have to
star on the side of the hat. But he ain't
thinking about us. He's thinking about his pocket. Okay, I mean,
Jerry John on the phone, Get him on the phone.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
What does he say? You tell me, what does he say?
He says that he's getting rip my Cowboys.

Speaker 6 (02:57):
We're the most successful brand in sports.

Speaker 7 (03:00):
Know you mean in terms of what championship?

Speaker 1 (03:01):
No, of course he can't say championship.

Speaker 6 (03:04):
I don't talking about recognition, notoriety, dollars and cents and sports.
But in the end, the Yankee, you haven't been in
an NFC championship game or Super Bowl in thirty years.
Thirty years, okay, And for some reason, he's just stubborn. Man,
he just and then you got his son sitting there
talking about Michael Paus' is like, hey, he gotta want
to sign a contract.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
What makes no sense. Guys, But you know this.

Speaker 5 (03:27):
There's box office and there's Oscars. Jerry been a while,
he ain't been to the show. You wouldn't know.

Speaker 4 (03:36):
Oh geez, dead cell serious jabs. He also threw jabs
at all of us who haven't played sports in our lives,
in our talking heads. I don't know if we have
that audio, but we'll play it later if it is necessary.
I took a lot from that Manci. But like Covino
and Rich like to do, they like to read between

(03:57):
the lines. They like to find that get in there.
And I hope I could do the guy's justice because
there was something that Denzel Washington said that just had
me scratching my head. When he goes, I've been a
Cowboys fan since the nineteen sixties, and that sounds great.
Denzel is old enough to remember some of the nineteen sixties.

(04:20):
I'm not calling them all. I'm just saying the facts
are facts. However, what I started to question then, was
he really a fan of the Cowboys in the nineteen sixties.
Denzel is seventy years old. He was born in nineteen
fifty four. The Dallas Cowboys came into the NFL in
nineteen sixty. I'm guessing at five or six years of age,

(04:42):
he doesn't remember when the Cowboys entered the NFL. So
when they enter the NFL, they aren't the Cowboys anyway.
They're just a new team in the NFL that's in Dallas.
But they start winning games in the mid sixties. They
play the Ice Bowl against the Packers in the late sixties.
This is when Denzel would be twelve or thirteen. I

(05:02):
think at a lot of point this is where we
get our fandom as kids, maybe even earlier. But then
there's also a point, Manzie, where you get to maybe eighteen,
nineteen and twenty, and the teams you liked as a
kid just aren't the teams you're gonna like as an adult.
You liked maybe one for the uniforms or you like
that player, but as you grow older, you kind of
settle into your fandom. We all have different ways of

(05:22):
doing so. The Cowboys heydays prior to their stint in
the nineteen nineties was the nineteen seventies. So is Denzel
Washington lying to us that he was actually a fan
of the Cowboys in the sixties, where there doesn't seem
any reason to be a fan. And if you've liked
the Cowboys for as long as he has has, are

(05:44):
you bandwagon? If you like them because they were winning
in the nineteen seventies. This is the dilemma. I think
that there are so many levels of fandom and trying
to figure out who your favorites are. Because Denzel was
born in New York, we see him at Laker games
and I just found out this week that he was
a Cowboys fan. I've seen him his Wikipedia picture I

(06:06):
think has them been a Yankees cap. So there's a
lot of top level teams there. But I want to
talk about bandwagon and his Denzel Washington possibly bandwagon because
he started liking the Cowboys when they were winning Super Bowl.

Speaker 8 (06:20):
Absolutely, where has this information been for years?

Speaker 1 (06:24):
You were born in New.

Speaker 8 (06:25):
York in the sixties, you were a young kid, and
the Giants have been around New York. Giants have been
around a long time, right, yes, yeah, like he had
a longer even, right, Like he had a team to
follow and root for. But you now in twenty twenty five,
I want to mention that you've been a Cowboys fan
since the sixties.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
All gay Themsel, Yeah, I just I didn't like that's cute.
I couldn't buy it.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
There's things that you say, like some sports fans will
try to justify their fandom and give a reason why.
I don't think you necessarily always have to do so.
I have random teams, couple of random teams, teams that
mean the most to me. I've liked those teams most
of my life. And when I say most, it's because

(07:09):
at two and three, I didn't know who the Seattle
Seahawks were at that point. But when I was seven
and got to meet the Seahawks, meet Seahawks players in
nineteen eighty four, changed my perspective. And when I people
ask me, like, you grew up in Wisconsin, you're a
how are you not a Packers fan? And I say,

(07:30):
I got to meet the team because their quarterback at
the time was from Wisconsin. Family friend knew my mom
a friend of the family and got us tickets to
the game in Milwaukee and we got to see the
Seahawks meet the Seahawks afterwards. From then on, it's all
it's been at the about the Seahawks. That's the furthest
thing from Vandwagon because the Seahawks weren't actually good, good,

(07:54):
good up until Mike Homgren took them over, and then
the Pete carroll eras when they took golf Manzie. So
there's a lot of different like ways about this, but
in my specific instance, as being a Seahawks fan for
so long, I look at people's fandoms all the time,
and so like when you're talking about Denzel, like, all right,
if you liked them when they were winning, is that

(08:15):
bandwagon even if they've been miserable for thirty years.

Speaker 8 (08:19):
Yes, that was a bandwagon move. And I feel like
there's nothing wrong with that, but it is just puts
into perspective of when you became that fan.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
I grew up.

Speaker 8 (08:29):
Being a Clippers fan, Like I was not allowed to
root for anybody else besides the Clippers, right, and so
whenever somebody's like, oh yeah, I'm a Clippers fan, you know,
it's like, all right, what jersey do you have? Kawhi Leonard,
that's not you jumped on the bandwagon. That's not a
real Clipper fan. And we have a lot of those.
But it's like you weren't there when Elton brand was

(08:50):
there or or Quentin Richardson or you know, like that's
what I remember back in my day and nowadays, like
a team that's perfect is when you meet someone and
they're like, I'm a Chiefs fan. I'm like, yeah, okay,
since when five years ago? Yeah okay, Yeah. There's few
teams where it's like you definitely probably jumped on the bandwagon.
I have a friend, Jacob, who is from Missouri, from

(09:12):
Kansas City, and so when I found out he was
a chief because he lives here, I was like, and
he's like, no, I'm from there. I've been one my
whole life. Half of these people are bandwagoners. I jumped
on the Chiefs ever since we started winning. There's certain
teams that they have a Yes.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
I understand that the Chiefs fandom can take off, and
I think there's a lot of young fans that are
Chiefs fans right now. Taylor Swift is probably bringing in
a whole new audience of fans. There was a guy
that lived in an apartment complex that we lived in,
probably a decade or so ago, and he was a
Chiefs fan. Where had he had the license plate frameka.

(09:52):
So I'm like all right, and then I would see
him on certain Sundays he'd be in his Chiefs gear.
But I can't say that I personally knew or saw
a Chiefs fan and they were kind of good, yeah, right,
like it was Alex Smith good. This is before the
Mahomes takeoff, So there's that portion of it. You're much
more harder on Denzel than I am, because I do

(10:13):
think if you're still sticking with them through thirty years
of sorrow, that there's got to be some equity built
into that.

Speaker 8 (10:24):
I guess I just don't believe that he's been dealing
with sorrow for thirty years. I feel like he was
a fan and then stopped being a fan, and now
he's back on being a fan and wants to talk
about how crappy his team is. But I feel like
there was a year's right, like you weren't even thinking
about the Cowboys, right, you know? That's not like you said.
We would have seen pictures on social media or something.

(10:45):
This this is the first time we've heard of this.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
Isaac lohncrodez Here, Chris Purfett, Jason Stewart, all hanging out again,
your phone calls eight seven, seven, nine nine on Fox.
Where do you weigh in? And is Denzel Washington a
Bandwagon fan? If he started to like the Cowboys when
they were winning. I just don't believe his story. I
think it's easy to say I was a fan of
the sixties. There would be no reason for him to
be a fan at that point. They were just new

(11:08):
to the league. It just that doesn't make sense unless
there was a reason. I think he became a fan
of the seventies, which helps his argument if he says
that he's a fan from the sixties. Jason Stewart bandwagon
is the topic. Yeah, no, no, that's that's that was
where I was going to go. So I always equate
like the invent of television, or at least how when

(11:29):
TVs were like mass consumed with the nineteen sixty presidential debate,
remember the Nixon Kennedy thing all that. So TVs weren't
really around in a mass consumption way in the sixties,
so the only way to follow your team was like
to go down and watch them down the street, or
follow them in the local paper. Like, I just don't

(11:51):
think you got a lot of people that. I don't
think you had a lot of Dan Byer's in the
sixties and before that were diehard fans of teams and
other cities far away, So it just doesn't jive with me.

Speaker 9 (12:03):
I don't believe that. In the seventies is when they
started becoming the America's team, right, that was an easy
bandwagon to jump with us.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah, Yeah, it was, yeah, And that's why I think
that he became a fan.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
Isaac Glowcross a great anecdote and a true anecdote about
this topic of conversation. In nineteen eighty eight, Wayne Gretzky,
the most dominant player in hockey history, was traded from
the Edmonton Oilers at the peak of his career, forced
down the cups in five years, to the then lowly
La Kings, and it took hockey Hollywood. It resulted in

(12:37):
a whole new era of popularity for the NHL. But
despite that, there was a sizeable group of Kings fans
who were loyal to the team for many years that,
believe it or not, actively resented them acquiring Wayne Gretzky
and resented the new fans coming in who they considered

(12:58):
as bandwagon. I'm talking about a small, hearty breed of
fans who have been loyal to a team that was
kind of at the bottom of the standings for many,
many years. It's shocking for me to even say that
that's true, But it was true. They resented the trade,
and they resented all these new fans that were showing
up and spoiling their you know, little experience.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
It's people who don't want their favorite bands to become popular.
A that's such a real thing.

Speaker 8 (13:24):
Yes, that is such a real thing because.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
They love the music so much and maybe it's so
personal to them.

Speaker 9 (13:29):
True story. I went to a Metallica concert in nineteen
ninety one, ninety one at the Forum and as Enter
Sandman was played as to start the concert, two Hessian
guys in front of me that were smoking pot looked
at each other and said, this is the song. This
is when it all changed. In other words, they were
fans of the album's previous they were the real fans.

(13:52):
But Enter Sandman gave us all of this.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
No, absolutely, like there's there's no doubt. I know people
the same thing of that Black album was. Yeah, that
was the line in the sand for them. Tony's in
Vegas wanting to talk about bandwagons.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
Tony. Welcome to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 7 (14:12):
Oh, how y'all doing great?

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Tony? How are you good?

Speaker 10 (14:15):
Good? I want to tell y'all y'all a one thousand
percent wrong. I can tell you guys are not Denzel
fans because everybody who are Denzel fans like myself. No,
he's from Mount Vernon, New York, and he's synonymous with
the Knicks and the Yankees and the Dallas Cowboys. It's
just that because of the movies, especially the movie he

(14:37):
played in, uh with When with Bray Allen, he's connected
to basketball. Now, if you're talking about him being a.

Speaker 11 (14:44):
Lakers fan, because he lives in.

Speaker 10 (14:47):
LA and got houses in LA. He's more of a
Bandwagon fan fan to the Lakers, but not to the Cowboys.
And if you heard his story, he said he was
a Cowboys fan because of his father, and that's why
he said sixties not sixties.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
Hold on, Tony, Tony, we lost Tony. I had to
ask him.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
So he said he's been a fan since his the
sixties or what was the difference?

Speaker 8 (15:16):
Yeah, yeah, the sixties, not sixty. No, we said that
the sixties, not his age.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
Here this is and I listen. I got this from
Denzel's Wikipedia page. Whether it was was true he had
looked at Texas Tech or thought about going to Texas
Tech at one point because the high school that he
was in was also called the Red Raiders. Now that

(15:43):
is something that I think any kid can understand. I
was enamored with the University of Georgia for a time
when I was a kid because they had the same
exact helmet that the Packers had, but it was a
different color. Like it was such a it was it's
such a mind bleep for a kid that's eight years

(16:03):
old that, like, you know, you just didn't you didn't understand, like,
how could that, you know, how could that happen? The
quote from Wikipedia says, I grew up in the boys
club in Mountain, Vernon and we were the Red Raiders.
So when I was in high school, I wanted to
go to Texas Tech and Lubbock because they were called
the Red Raiders in their uniforms look like ours. That
to me is more of a reason and why you

(16:25):
would be a Texas Tech fan than you would be
a Cowboys fan. Now I'm not a Denzel fan, but
I'll say this to Tony's point that may work against him,
even though he says we're wrong. What a nice life
to be a Yankees, Cowboys and Knicks fan. In the
nineteen seventies.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
The nineteen seventies were the last time the Knicks are
actually good and weren't the darn and winning a championship,
So like those are all convenient to that point. I
actually thought he was a Lakers fan, but I'm not
the I don't know everything about Denzel, but this is
part of the argument. And I don't necessarily think he
he's bandwagon for the Cowboys because he's stuck with them

(17:03):
for thirty years. I just think he got on the
train when the going was good and just never has
gotten off totally.

Speaker 8 (17:10):
And I agree with you, and I mean, Tony made
a point where it's like he the bandwagon of the
Lakers is also still a thing. We're just mentioning the
Cowboys right now. But yeah, he's in LA, so you
could say he's now a Laker bandwagoner. But I it
just like you said, how convenient, how convenient for your fandom.

Speaker 4 (17:31):
There are people of my age whose favorite teams are
the forty nine Ers, the No Offense, Rich Davis, the Braves,
all these teams at the time that were winning championships
when you're you know, thirteen years old, or winning teams
at that time, and they all just I'm a I'm
a Braves, Niners, Bulls fan. Like, oh wow, childhood must

(17:52):
have stunk. You have no idea, You have no idea
what it was like to going to school every Monday
in late November after Ohio State lost to Michigan. Like,
and my friends weren't Michigan fans. They don't care, they
just weren't. They laughed at me because the Buck guys
lost another big game. And that happened over and over.
Roger in Vegas talking bad Wagons. Roger, Welcome to Fox

(18:15):
Sports Radio.

Speaker 12 (18:17):
Hey, hello to everyone, and I want to talk about Denzel.
I'm not a Cowboys fan, but if you go back
to the era when Tom Landry was the coach, they
were in the NFC Championship game like seventeen out of
twenty one years, and I know that created a tremendous
amount of Cowboys fan So that was just my you know,

(18:37):
thought on uh, what you said, he's a badger. There
was a ton of people. And again go back to
Wintar and that's the era that Denzel, like myself would
have been a younger, you know, EASi Lee and Florid Stamp.
You see him in the championship game all the time
and having winning records for twenty plus years. Yeah, they

(18:59):
do a lot of So that's my take on that.
I just wanted to share that with Roger.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
I appreciate it because there's the Cowboys and Denzel weren't
the reason that I thought of this, because I mentioned
this Tomasi earlier this week, and like when we get
together for Covino and Rich, we have to talk about this.
I've thought about this about two specific teams, and one
of them is in the NFL, but the one that

(19:24):
I thought about at the most is the Chicago Bulls
more because of my age and I have said, I
have respect a lot of respect for Bulls fans that
are still Bulls fans today because it hasn't been good.
Aside from a little Derek Rose run in there, it's

(19:45):
been awful. Ref So if you're still a Bulls fan
and sharing for the Bulls today, congratulations, round of applause
to you. Even though in the nineteen nineties you had
your way with everyone, at least you stuck with them
and did not veer off. But ultimately it feels like
there were so many Bulls fans. I was one of

(20:05):
the few people that didn't like Michael Jordan. I wanted
the Bulls to lose. I wanted the Sonics to beat them.
I wanted the Suns to be fan Yes I did not.
I was not a Jordan fan. But at some point
you just kind of are like, all right, you know,
it is what it is. They're gonna win again. But
that those fans that were always Bulls fans are you today?

(20:28):
And I think that there's a test to that. The
other one, to Roger's point of the success of the Cowboys.
I've thought that about the Steelers. How many Steelers fans
do we know that are our age? And it's because
not your age, Manzi, you're younger. But the Steelers were
winning those Super Bowls in the nineteen seventies, so you
obviously liked them. And now they have such a huge
fan base now like are you are you still a fan?

Speaker 1 (20:50):
Are you bandwagon?

Speaker 4 (20:51):
The Steelers have had success, so they've kept their fans
I guess well fed. But if you're a Bulls fan,
and even in this case, if you're Denzel and you're
sticking by the Cowboys, I actually don't think that your
bandwagon because you've been with him, that long. I think
that that his argument is trying to fit his reason
and trying to show how long he's been a fan,

(21:11):
But it just begs the question of if you started
when they were winning, do you think that they're bandwagon
if they haven't won in a while?

Speaker 8 (21:18):
Well, I think right, if you were a bandwagoner at
one point doesn't mean you still are like the Bulls.
Like if you jumped on that bandwagon during Michael Jordan's
prime and you're still there, then I'm going to say
you're no longer a bandwagoner, but that's how your fandom started,
because there is a way where you were that, but
now you stuck by it for whatever reason. Yeah, Bulls

(21:41):
have had a rough, rough couple of years without much success.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
It's been a while for it, yes, and even just.

Speaker 8 (21:49):
Even just like making the playoffs and having like a
fun run, they don't even have.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
That, correct.

Speaker 4 (21:54):
You know, you've got Billy Donovan on a contract extension
now is what you've got.

Speaker 8 (21:58):
That's literally and then a bunch of question marks around
the rest of the team.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
She's Moncey Bolanios. I'm Dan Byer in for Cavino and
Rich talking bandwagen here on Fox Sports.

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Speaker 4 (22:19):
Dissension in the ranks here on Bandwagon Talk on Fox
Sports Radio, some people don't like what they hear. She's
Moncey belanho. So I'm Dan Byer wondering if Denzel Washington
is a bandwagon fan because he likely started liking the
Cowboys when they were winning when he was really young.
To right Man one in thirty years, he says he's
still a Cowboys fan. Monty says, yes, I say no,

(22:42):
but it all stemmed from looking back. And if you're
a Bulls fan today, you probably liked them when they
were winning all those championships. So are you considered bandwagon
when you liked them when they were winning all those times?
It's kind of all this question has evolved as we
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Speaker 4 (23:14):
I don't think a certain fan base that we're going
to talk about is insecure about people being bandwagon. I
think that they just they need they need numbers, and
they have pride in their misery. Let's go to the
great state of South Dakota. Mike is in South Dakota.
Welcome to Caveno and Rich Mike.

Speaker 11 (23:34):
Thanks for having me on.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
What do you got.

Speaker 7 (23:39):
Well?

Speaker 14 (23:40):
I was born in sixty five, and I remember the
first Super Bowl the Vikings played in sixty nine, and
it's been heartbreak ever since.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
You were four years old. When you remember that, Mike,
I do?

Speaker 4 (23:52):
I do, Mike, There's no way like your first memories
when you're five at best. I remember I remember watching
in front of the TV, watching Len Dawson and those
Chiefs run past the Vikings.

Speaker 14 (24:04):
Yep, like everybody else does.

Speaker 4 (24:06):
All right, Well, it seems like Mike in South Dakota's
got company, but your company is in Idaho. Dan is
in Idaho.

Speaker 15 (24:13):
Dan.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
Welcome to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 14 (24:17):
Hey, how you doing great?

Speaker 4 (24:20):
God hear me, Yeah, we got you. You're a Vikings
fan since sixty nine.

Speaker 14 (24:25):
Since Yeah, I don't believe it or not. I was
six years old and in the Super Bowl, you know,
if i'd sat down from the TV with my mom.
And so for the next few years I only really
watched got us that even know about the Vikings in Chiefs.

Speaker 7 (24:42):
And then when the.

Speaker 14 (24:42):
Purple People leaders became real big, I've I've been hooked
ever since. And so when I hear about thirty years
to a championship and the poor Bulls and all this,
I'm telling you we got it rough.

Speaker 8 (24:58):
Yeah, Vikings fans, I feel like Mike and Dan need
to meet somewhere.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yeah, yeah, we both have you on.

Speaker 4 (25:05):
Mike and Dan, Do you guys like want to get
together at some point and watch like a Vikings game?

Speaker 3 (25:10):
Hey, Mike and Dan? Can I make them feel even worse?
Here is a touchdown from Super Bowl four. You want
me to play the real quick Chiefs and the Viking.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
We still have our eight track awesome we do.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
The announcer Joe Buck's father, Jack Buck.

Speaker 6 (25:25):
Quick snap and the quick pass of Taylor he got
away from McBee.

Speaker 5 (25:30):
He's him five the fifth tee here.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
And of course he remembers that because he was four
years old.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
Well, imagine the people who cheered for the Chiefs that
won that game that now are considered bandwagon because Patrick
Mahomes and the Chiefs are so good. Mike and Dan,
we feel for you as Vikings fans. We know there
are many like you. You're not like David and Colorado.
David and Colorado disagrees with the bandwagon statement. Does he
disagree with Manzi or does he disagree with me? David

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walked home to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 11 (26:01):
Well, thank you very much. So I've got two things.
Number One, if you were a Michael Jordan fan back
when he was playing for North Carolina Tar Hills, and
of course your dad is from North Carolina and you
followed Michael Jordan's from North Carolina up to the professional league,

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are you a bandwagon fan just because you are a
Michael Jordans fan the first and foremost, that's the point.
But I do have another question, but I'll let you
answer that one.

Speaker 8 (26:31):
No, No, you're not a man.

Speaker 4 (26:33):
That's lore we're talking about with bands. Yeah, when bands
are small and they become big. It's why when Isaac
was talking about the Kings, like there's resentment towards all
these new fans, but you wouldn't be considered a Bandwagon
fan because you liked him way before.

Speaker 11 (26:47):
No, and see, so I'm not going to go the
second point, but I'm going to answer.

Speaker 7 (26:51):
That right there.

Speaker 11 (26:52):
I've got a favorite band there from Athnes, Georgia. They
are not on the top forty. They have not made
the Hall of Fame Rock and Roll Hall of Fame,
and they are are freaking exceptional fan based or fan
based band, and of course they I'm glad they're not
in top forty.

Speaker 12 (27:09):
Yeah, so you can bigger.

Speaker 11 (27:10):
Than alf then you can tell me.

Speaker 7 (27:12):
But I do have another one.

Speaker 15 (27:14):
So my dad was.

Speaker 11 (27:15):
A he live in their first twenty five.

Speaker 4 (27:19):
Sorry if yeah, yeah, Dave, we got to cut you
loose because we got other people that want to want
to chime in on this, so we're gonna let you
start the weekend early. And I love Dave's passion. I
think he may have been a Michael Jordan fan. Chris
is in Detroit. This isn't for fet our technical producer
are different? Chris, Who's got it wrong? Chris?

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Welcome to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 7 (27:40):
Hello there, Hello yo, Chris, Hi. This is Moncy and Dan.
You guys do a wonderful job. Then you made a
wonderful I with Monty. First of all, I think you're
you're wrong. With Denzille. I think you remembers I'm in
the same age as Dnzel and actually remember back in
the sixties. I just want to say, hey, Tea may

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have stared the huge members, but from the seventies, as
you guys suggested earlier, he may just remember the years,
you know, from those old quarterbacks and those old linemen.
And that's all.

Speaker 4 (28:14):
Yes, I know I may have been nitpicking, but it
was more of just the fact of I've thought about
this with the Bulls, and I've thought about this with
the Steelers, and now Denzel is saying it and trying
to prove that he's a Cowboys fan. Sure people don't
believe me when I say I've been a Seahawks fan
since the nineteen eighties. Yeah, no, they'rely nineteen eighties, Like
there's no dreams. I can tell you the bo Jackson
Knight I was in fifth grade. It was awful, like

(28:35):
going to school that next Tuesday in mister Presl's fifth
grade class at Lincoln School. It's stunk because the Seahawks
are usually awesome on Monday Night football. Then Bo Jackson
ran all over them. It was the only Monday night
game that I could stay up past halftime. My mam
waill let me watch the Seahawks play. And they were
actually were pretty good on Monday nights when they would play,
except that night it was awful. Nineteen eighty seven stunk.

Speaker 8 (28:56):
If you guys can see a dance face right now,
it's like he's living through it still right.

Speaker 4 (28:59):
Yes, Look, I guarantee they showed the bo Jackson highlight
at least once on one of the TVs we've had
on during the show, and it happened thirty five years ago.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
So Mark's in Florida. Mark, Welcome to bad Wagon Talk.

Speaker 6 (29:15):
I believe.

Speaker 16 (29:16):
Thank you so much for taking my call. I believe Denzel.

Speaker 15 (29:20):
I was.

Speaker 16 (29:20):
I was born in fifty eight. Nineteen fifty eight, I
was about seven years old, and so nineteen sixty five
is I was.

Speaker 15 (29:32):
Born in Texas.

Speaker 16 (29:34):
When I was seven years old, I became a Cowboys fan.
I became aware.

Speaker 14 (29:41):
Of the NFL. Blah blah blah.

Speaker 12 (29:44):
I just I believe Dunzel.

Speaker 16 (29:46):
Maybe he you were born in Texas.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
Mark.

Speaker 4 (29:49):
That's the point, though, is like you have a reason
to like the Cowboys because they're your area team or
your state team. The Cowboys weren't the Cowboys until the
nineteen seventies. There's no reason for Denzel when he's thirteen
years old in nineteen sixty at Olives and fall in
love with the Cowboys because TV was not what it
was today. So I have no doubt that he's been

(30:10):
a TV fan that long. I just think that some
of the details are a little sketchy. I appreciate Mark,
and I think Mark, you're Scott Free, You're absolutely good.
We're gonna wrap this up with Bill in Pennsylvania. Then
we got Isaac with the latest of what's happening today. Bill,
you got an appropriate name.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
I think I do.

Speaker 15 (30:28):
I am a diar Red since fan. I'm sorry, Commander's
fan against you should have to say now. I went
to my first game as seventy two with my grandfather
and my dad and my brother, and I was also
in Dallas, Texas in September when it was brutally hot

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and watched Brunel throw those bombs to Santana.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
Most sure you stuck.

Speaker 15 (31:01):
I loved listen. I have I have friends that are
big Cowboys fans. I love, love the rivalry, and you know,
I mean we you know, we keep it friendly. Yeah,
but you know, I mean I've been the Skins. I
had season tickets for two twenty years after.

Speaker 10 (31:24):
Adam since the fourth.

Speaker 4 (31:25):
Sure, no, and no one is questioning Bill's fandom when
you've liked the team for that long. The Commanders then
for the eighties and nineties, won three Super Bowls during
that span, went to another one in the nineteen seventies.
But it wasn't it wasn't a full like dominance of
football run. So I can I could see why a

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Commander's fan, you know, to this day wouldn't necessarily be
considered band wagon.

Speaker 8 (31:52):
Well, not every team can be considered a team that
you can be a band wagon fantis. Not every team
has that, you know what, You're right, Yeah, the Wizards.
Wizards don't have bandwagon fans in the NBA. Like if
you were a fan of Michael, you were just a
fan of Michael, but you didn't stay watching the Wizards.

Speaker 4 (32:10):
Well, you know, the funny thing is is Jason not
to throw you under the bus. But the reason we
thought his name was appropriate because it said Bill's fan
and his name was Bill.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
So I thought, awesome, this is exactly what you were talking.

Speaker 4 (32:23):
And then he goes, I'm a fan of the Commanders,
and I thought, oh, but I do think that the
Bills without Winning are becoming a lot more popular now
and people may jump on their bandwagon.

Speaker 8 (32:34):
Bill's mafia is growing, whether it's because of Josh Allen
or Hailey Steinfeld or other reasons.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
Jason, did you know that he was a Commander's fan
and it was Bill's fan in the in the bank.

Speaker 9 (32:45):
It's almost like you, You guys have a call screener
today that has like half one function in here. Call
screening to me is like uh dan trying to dunk
a basketball.

Speaker 4 (32:59):
Which I almost could when I was in high school.
Those are a long, long, long time ago, but I digress.
Isaac Lohankron is here with the latest. I could dunk
a tennis ball that was very easy.

Speaker 8 (33:10):
But I was like, you can actually touch the rim,
like jump and touch the rim.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
I could get this on the road, okay.

Speaker 4 (33:17):
Vince Carter, Vince Carter, it was a long time ago,
long time ago.

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Speaker 1 (33:33):
What a day it's been.

Speaker 8 (33:35):
What a day?

Speaker 4 (33:39):
I know, I know it's been one a day. That's
the eighth time it's happened today.

Speaker 6 (33:42):
It has I know, I know, and I thought it
was on.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
You know what happened today?

Speaker 4 (33:46):
I talked more about Super Bowl four today in my
entire life than I have in my entire life the
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your screen. Nineteen ninety one, the Atlanta Braves go on
this run that no one had ever expected. All Right,
the Atlanta Braves used to be a laughing stock, and

(34:30):
then they have all these young players and next thing
you know, they're first in the NL West. They go
to the World Series, lose in a heartbreaking fashion to
the Minnesota Twins. I was fourteen at the time. That
is like prime bandwagon era, prime jumping on the bandwagon era.
I have an authentic Atlanta Braves Dave Justice Jersey nice

(34:53):
because I like the Braves at that time. The story
that I just am going to say is I think
so many people did to try to justify them being
a fan, which is why I think, like Denzel is
saying what he's saying, I feel, if you feel confident
enough of your fandom, you shouldn't have to try to
complete a case for it. But I would always say,

(35:14):
and I think Chris knows, and Jason knows, and Isaac knows,
and Mancy you may know, but I would always say, Hey,
I always used to watch them on TBS. They were
always on TBS. So I've always been a Braves fan.
Like that was your like out, like you really follow
them when you didn't, but that was your way of
trying to justify, justify the reason why now in nineteen

(35:36):
ninety one, you've become an Atlanta Braves fan when they
went all the way to the World Series. It's just
when the year before they won sixty five games like that, Jason,
you heard that one before like I watched them on
TBS all the time, Superstation.

Speaker 9 (35:51):
I want to say I've seen it recently, And then
I was thinking, the reason why we have seen it
recently is because after Ryan Samberg had passed, that was
a common refrain on Twitter. I grew up watching WGN
baseball in the eighties and and watching TBS with the Braves,
so it was a thing in our childhood. That doesn't

(36:12):
mean all of us became fans of the team, No,
that just gave it right. It gave us a way
to watch Major League Baseball every day, and that that
was the way of the for the fans to say like, hey, look, look,
oh what have you been a Brace fan?

Speaker 15 (36:25):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (36:25):
Only since I've watched them all the time on TVs,
then you really couldn't argue. But I feel that so
many fans were lying when they were saying that. Absolutely
Lakers fans, they seem to win always. But still there's
a bandwagon for them. Lakers are gonna put a statue
of pat Riley out in front of her.

Speaker 8 (36:43):
Can we make it good? Can we just at least
make a good statue? They're all so not and we
spend not We people spend hundreds of thousands of hours
on them.

Speaker 13 (36:54):
At least make it good.

Speaker 8 (36:55):
They're running out of space.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
I'm not saying that pat Riley doesn't deserve a statue.
I just feel that there are so many statues somebody
that are outside of Crypto and formerly Staples. So at
what point do you draw a line. Kareem's got one,
Kobe's got two, Kobe's got three, Magic Scott one, Shack's
got one, Jerry West, Eligend Baylor, Wayne Gretzky, Luke Robatai,

(37:18):
Oscar de la Hoya, Like it's just gonna be all
statues at some point.

Speaker 8 (37:22):
Phil Jackson next, he probably should Next.

Speaker 4 (37:26):
Monzi's going to be next up on Sunday, So am I,
we'll talk to you then Friday