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July 21, 2025 42 mins

Jason Fitz and Buck Reising are in for Covino Rich on this Tuesday edition of the show! They open up hour 2 reacting to recent comments from Jerry Jones on negotiations with Micah Parsons. Then they move into some LA basketball talk, debating just how relevant the Lakers and Clippers are heading into next season, even with the respective signings of Marcus Smart and Bradley Beal. Plus, more fun with a brand new edition of 'Would You Rather"!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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Speaker 3 (00:09):
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Speaker 4 (00:19):
They say there's no such thing as bad publicity, and
imagine Cowboys fans are tired of hearing that it's Coveno
and Rich, Jason fitz Buck Rising hanging out here with you.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
I like that.

Speaker 4 (00:33):
We get applause every time we say that it's a.

Speaker 5 (00:36):
Light speed I'm gonna I'm not gonna like that.

Speaker 4 (00:38):
Yeah, you know, we just we just need a little
extra validation, little affirmation. We just we like the love.
We love hanging out here with you guys. We love
being on with you on Fox Sports Radio this afternoon,
and we love when there's Cowboys drama in the air.
That is exactly what Jerry Jones has provided to us

(00:59):
this afternoon Une Because when given an opportunity to say
the right thing, Jerry does have an awful knack for
saying the exact wrong thing or the exact thing that
his fan base does not want to hear FITZI, So
that idea of there's no such thing as bad publicity.
When you've got Jerry Jones at the podium talking at

(01:22):
the opening of training camp alongside his head coach who
just seems like he's along for the ride, with Micah
Parson's contract situation hanging in the balance, and you just
take the opportunity to fire astray at the Star Pass
Rusher for no other reason but because you can, because
you own the Cowboys, because you're Jerry Jones. What is

(01:42):
the Cowboys fan base feeling today after you've excoriated them
for feeling anything at all?

Speaker 6 (01:50):
I just want to know what the hell excoriated means. Like,
that's a big word.

Speaker 5 (01:53):
Excoriated e x c R I a ted excord me.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
And I would like an Urban Dictionary reading of the
word excoriated at your convenience place.

Speaker 6 (02:03):
Okay, that's perfect. Excoriated is the word of the day. Look, buck,
let let's let's run this real quick. Okay, you play
the press person, because you've done this at press conferences.
I'm gonna be Jerry Jones, all right, So you go
ahead and ask me what the question is here on
Michael Parsons.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
Go ahead, go ahead, Jerry, what progress is being made
on the contract of Michael Parsons.

Speaker 5 (02:25):
Look in my experience book.

Speaker 6 (02:27):
I really appreciate the question, but nothing good comes from
having a public negotiation.

Speaker 5 (02:31):
We love Micah and we want him to be here
long term.

Speaker 6 (02:33):
So we're just going to keep all of that between
ourselves and we're going to do everything we can to
get this deal done.

Speaker 5 (02:39):
But thank you. Well, see how easy that was?

Speaker 4 (02:42):
Like, you know how many times I've got that answer.
You know how many times I've been swatted away that
way by a general manager. God knows, the Titans have
had enough of them in the last couple of years.
But the simplicity, keep it simple, stupid, that's all you
gotta do. And Jerry just can't help himself.

Speaker 5 (02:58):
Excoriated, Ian, what do we got excoriated?

Speaker 7 (03:01):
So?

Speaker 8 (03:01):
Yeah, excoriate or excoriation noun a raw, irritated lesion as
of the skin or mucosal surface. And then the other
definition is the act of a braiding or wearing off
the skin. Is that what you're going for?

Speaker 4 (03:13):
No, No, what that's gotta be the second It's got
to be the second definition. Now that that sounds like
a process. Yeah, I don't. Also, that's not urban dictionary.
That's far too refined to be urban dictionary. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (03:27):
I was really hoping that Ian was gonna come in
with something kind of naughty and kind of a little
bit a little off the rails, and like all of
a sudden, I was gonna be able to.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Be like, hey, you are right to stand by.

Speaker 5 (03:36):
Stand later. I thought I was going to have something like.

Speaker 4 (03:40):
I don't know, Yeah, there it is right now. And
now we're back to arousal. Now we're back in a
height of things.

Speaker 5 (03:46):
Thank you.

Speaker 6 (03:47):
Look, it's it's six pm on the East Coast, like
it it's it's it's getting that time, all right, Like
it's it's happy hour. Things are getting weird, Like that's
what we talk about. Okay, hear me out though, Like
I'm not asking Jerry to tap. I'm just asking Jerry
to stop stepping at it, That's all I'm saying. So
to sit in front of the microphone and then call

(04:07):
out his player in a very public way, y'all should
hear it? This is what Jerry Jones actually said when
he was asked about the Michael Parsons.

Speaker 7 (04:17):
Negotiations, just because we've signed him, doesn't mean we're going
to have him. He was hurt six games last year. Seriously,
we've signed I remember signing a player for the highest
paid at the position in the league and he got
knocked out two thirds of the year Dark Prescott. So
there's a lot of things you can think about, just
as the player does when you're thinking about committing and

(04:38):
guaranteeing money.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
That's Jerry Jones at the podium today. By the way,
Michael Parsons only missed four games. Jerry fact check incorrect.
He did not miss six games the way that Jerry
is indicating that he did, and also lost in the
middle of this Michael Parsons conversation. As JJ Watt correctly
pointed out on Twitter, anytime you can publicly take a
dig at no, not just your star pass rusher, but

(05:01):
your star quarterback two in the same answer, right before
the season begins, you just gotta take it. JJ adds
nothing makes guys want to fight for you more than
hearing how upset you are that they got hurt while
fighting for you. And listen, JJ has some opinions that
I agree with, some opinions that I don't. He is

(05:24):
so spot on about this because a lot of people
like to project onto JJ Watt that this Captain America
persona type of thing that he has always had his
entire life, is not genuine. When I truly take that
to heart. When JJ Watt, who I think cares about
the game of football more than just about anything else
in his life other than his wife and his children,
when he writes nothing makes guys want to fight for

(05:47):
you more than hearing how upset you are that they
got hurt while fighting for you. That is going to
resonate for Michael Parsons, who, by the way, retweeted it.
That is going to resonate for Dak Prescott, who is
also mentioned in the middle of that clip. Brian Schottenheimer
has been around this game for a long time. He's
the son of a coach. He unders he is the
one who is essentially going to have to go back

(06:09):
into the locker room after the fact. Be like, all right, boys,
I know what Jerry said at the podium, but you
just got you gotta box out the outside noise. Except
the outside noise is your owner. That's the thing that
makes you insane, because the outside noise is giving public
tours of your training facility while you're trying to get
ready to go out there and beat the defending Super

(06:29):
Bowl champion Philadelphia Eagles at Week six. The plight of
the Dallas Cowboys player is a very very unique one
in the landscape of the NFL. And I know the
vast majority of fans get out here and be like, well,
that's what the money's for. You put up with all
of it. You put up with the pay, and you
put up with the jeering, you put up with the
ownership boohoo for the poor millionaires. Except the vast majority

(06:49):
of these players aren't millionaires, and the ones who do
get there literally are sacrificing their body and Route two
getting there. Michaeh Parson's playing through injury, trying to find
ways to be available, really not having any lack of
pride about the organization that he plays with when it
would be very easy for a player his age in
particularly like what winning history of the Dallas Cowboys. I

(07:11):
was barely cognizant in the nineties. What are you talking about?
This is something Michael Parsons, though he does the podcast
thing and all the other next gen stuff that we're
seeing from athletes right now, He's a pretty damn good soldier,
and so for you to be publicly up there taking
him out again, Fitzy, this is why I'm upset with
you for the way that you went at Cowboys fans earlier,

(07:31):
because they have a right to be pissed about this.

Speaker 6 (07:33):
No, no, no, Two things can be true here, Like,
of course Cowboys fans have every right to look at
Jerry Jones and like, look, this is popoll with this
feelings hurt. I keep coming back to this, like somebody
upset the old man, and that somebody is Michael Parsons.
And so now he comes out and he says really
really terrible things in front of a microphone because he's reactionary,
like this is who Jerry Jones is. My issue with
Cowboys fans isn't the fact that they're frustrated with their team.

(07:56):
I think my issue with Cowboys fans is that they
let that frustration sound like they deserves some sort of
different version of the NFL because they're Cowboys fans. Like,
two things can be true. I could sit here and
roll my eyes when Cowboys fans say we haven't won
a Super Bowl since the nineties, knowing full well that
you cover a team that's never won a Super Bowl.
That you know Ian is a fan of a team
that hasn't won a Super Bowl, Say sixty.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
We really just going here again.

Speaker 6 (08:20):
And I'm a fan of a team that hasn't won
a super Bowl since nineteen eighty three.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
So like on purpose, you did that on purpose, and
don't deflect.

Speaker 5 (08:29):
No, no, I was just going through the room.

Speaker 6 (08:30):
I was going through the room like I saw a
box face, I saw Ian's face, I saw my face.

Speaker 5 (08:34):
I was going in order there.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
That's all super Bowl three. It was the last time.

Speaker 5 (08:39):
Yeah, I didn't remember what you No digon is crazy.

Speaker 6 (08:44):
So I can sit here and mock Cowboys fans were saying.

Speaker 5 (08:48):
We haven't won a super Bowl since the nineties.

Speaker 6 (08:50):
When I know full well that you can bind all
of our fandom and none of us have won a
super Bowl since the nineties. Like that's just normal. In
the same breath, I can turn around and say it's maddening.
Like I work a lot at Yahoo with joey Epstein,
who does great work for US nationally reporting on the edit,
specifically reported on the Cowboys for years, and until I
worked with her, I was truly unaware when people say

(09:11):
it's a distraction to be a Dallas cowboy. I was
truly unaware of the fact until talking to Jory that
in the middle of a practice, if you're doctor Pepper
and you're a sponsor, Jerry will break into a middle
of a practice and just stop everything so that the
sponsors can talk to all the players and shake hands
and you know, get the chance to talk to guys
and like the wild distractions that come with being a

(09:35):
Dallas cowboy that don't exist other places are real. And
then when you've got Micah going to a podcast and saying, man,
it's always complicated, Like we were ready to do a
deal go a year ago, and now all of a sudden,
not only is the deal not done, but you know,
upset pop pause over here, making the deal even tougher
to get to. Like, I know, he's gonna pay the money.
It's never about he's gonna pay the money. He's gonna

(09:55):
get it done. But my god, what is he doing
in the meantime to the culture, to the law room,
to the conversation, and to his future salary cap by
doing the deal?

Speaker 5 (10:03):
So damn late? Uh?

Speaker 4 (10:06):
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all of that, Fitsie, I think that Jerry Jones is
what you're advocating for more of though. When you talk

(11:34):
about it's better to be an attention grabber or to
have the attention economy than actually be good in sports,
you are actively advocating for the thing that you are
currently ripping up and down top to bottom. You've spent
an hour and a half, an hour and twelve minutes
of this show talking about, Oh, it's not important to
be great. Oh you know, you could be great if

(11:54):
you do it in silence, nobody will care. All right, Jerry,
stop everything, bring everything to a screeching hault. Tell me
about all the different things that are wrong and right
with the Cowboys, and that will make you great. Jerry
Jones is your daddy in that regard. He is there
for you. He is exactly the kind that you are shouting,
the kind of thing that you are shouting for from
on highre Are you happy with what you got, Fitzy?

(12:16):
Are you happy that Jerry Jones is here? Other than
we get to talk about whatever it is that the dumb,
the dumb thing that Jerry Jones said today.

Speaker 5 (12:23):
You pinned me in.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
You're right, as I said, you are very right about this.

Speaker 5 (12:27):
You are very right. I'm willing to admit that you
got me Like Jerry. Is the reason we're rolling on this.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
I want to hear this back on repeat for the
rest of the show. I just don't know what you rather.
I want to hear I was right. That's all I
want now.

Speaker 5 (12:38):
Buck Rising is right.

Speaker 6 (12:39):
I'll give you an NBA example of the exact thing
we're talking about after we take a break. He's Buck Rising.
I'm Jason Fitz We're in for Comuno and Rich on
Fox Sports Radio.

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He's the daddy.

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Speaker 6 (14:08):
It's turned into a deep philosophical show if that's actually possible.
With Buck Rising and I'm Jason Fitz. I don't know
how deep we can get, especially filling in for Covino
and Rich.

Speaker 5 (14:18):
We're not deep, guys.

Speaker 6 (14:19):
I'll admit that we're sort of happen, but we're having
a deep conversation that's turned into a through line.

Speaker 5 (14:25):
I didn't know it was going to turn here.

Speaker 6 (14:27):
But the question is what matters more being a great
conversation piece or being great?

Speaker 5 (14:32):
And it's kind of interesting to see what we flocked to.
Buck Rising just pinned me in. He just spinned me in.

Speaker 6 (14:38):
I'll admit it because I'm sitting here laughing about Jerry Jones,
and as Buck pointed out, like I'm doing the very
thing that I say. You know, I'm paying attention to
a conversation piece instead of something that's great, and that's
what we do.

Speaker 5 (14:49):
I will Buck give you another example of this. Are
you ready for this?

Speaker 7 (14:52):
All right?

Speaker 6 (14:52):
Because we were having our prep meeting, and by we,
I mean Ian and I because you didn't show up
for it. So we were having a prep meeting for
the show, which I would like to reiterate once more.
We were on FaceTime, Ian and I were, and somehow
when when the FaceTime call went to you, it didn't
go through you'd like to if you'd like to fill anybody,
like maybe why you didn't take the FaceTime.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
Call because I told you I wasn't going to be
on the FaceTime call because I told you I was
going to be driving in at that time, and then
I would catch up with the two of you after
the fact. You don't read your text. That's not on me.

Speaker 6 (15:21):
Wow, No, No, I mean, I mean, like last time
I checked, you got into the office like three minutes
before the show. So basically what you told Ian and
I would to do was all the work and then
just force feed you the topics. So it's it's fine,
it's fine, that's right. Like that, I appreciate, that's right.
I appreciate your commitment to Yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:38):
That's you. You've articulated my level of prep. Tell me
what to talk about and I will be there to
talk about it. That is That is fair.

Speaker 6 (15:45):
But we were having a conversation about some moves that
happened in the NBA this week and Marcus Mark going
to the Lakers, Chris Paul going back to the Clippers,
and Ian asked a question, you know that that I
think this good sports talk radio conversation in general, like
which LA basketball team is better. And as we were talking,
I said, isn't the real conversation that LA basketball doesn't matter?

(16:09):
But in fairness, it's turned into what we're talking about. Now,
LA basketball will always matter. We will talk about the Lakers,
and frankly, you and I have talked about this a
lot like the national media conversation will be about the
Lakers every single day. The best team in the NBA
is Oklahoma City, all right, the gifted team, the talented team.
The Scotti scheffler of the NBA currently is Oklahoma City. Now,

(16:32):
how much are we going to talk about Oklahoma City?
We are absolutely go ahead, whispered it one more time, go.

Speaker 4 (16:37):
Ahead, the Scottish cheffler. Oh god, it feels good.

Speaker 6 (16:40):
Like the Scottish scheffler of the NBA is Oklahoma City.
And how many people are going even Opening night when
they get their rings?

Speaker 5 (16:48):
How many people are really gonna care about that?

Speaker 6 (16:50):
We're all gonna talk about whether or not Luca called
Marcus Smart individually to make sure he comes and joins
the Lakers for a team that may or may not
even be relevant in the playoff matchups, that won't really
be a threat to Oklahoma City. But by god, we're
going to talk about them. Why because they're a spectacle
and we like spectacles.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
What can I do to stop this? Because you in
the same way that you have admitted that I was
right about you praising or calling for things like Jerry
Jones to exist and then ripping Jerry Jones for existing
in exactly the way that you want him to exist.
This Marcus Smart buy out from the Wizards than joining

(17:30):
the Lakers, got way more coverage than Oklahoma City's Big
three all signing contracts after winning the championship. It makes
me so mad, so mad as a fan of a
small market basketball team, as somebody whose basketball team was
in the NBA Finals. No, they lost the NBA Finals,
and it was a terrible, terrible way to watch your

(17:51):
team go down swinging and not even swinging at the end,
just floundering at the end after the injury. But as
somebody who wants to hear out the things. This is
a Ron rivera quote, all right, that Mike Rabel co
opted during the year that he won Coach of the
Year when I covered him with the Titans in twenty

(18:13):
twenty one. All Right, there are things that are important,
and there are things that are interesting, and this is
one of those things that's interesting as opposed to important.
And I feel like you could put sports conversations in
either of those two categories when you really really think
hard enough about them, or just you know, understand on
face value what actually impacts the landscape of the league

(18:35):
versus what is going to be the TMZ element of this.
The Lakers are interesting. The Lakers are They are still
important enough in the landscape. They are more important than
the Cowboys are, say, in the NFL right now, because
the Lakers do expect to be more competitive, and frankly,
I don't think the Cowboys are gonna have a bad year.
They just play in a division with Washington in Philadelphia

(18:57):
where they clearly look like they would be in third
place provided that Jaden Daniels doesn't take a huge step back.
But the Lakers are the definition of the transactions that
are covered, being way more interesting than they are important.
But even I mean Marcus Smart at the stage of
his career, I had no idea it was even Washington thought.
I thought he was still roaming around in Memphis somewhere.
Marcus mart getting bought out in Washington and then showing

(19:19):
up on the Likers and that receiving the most NBA
offseason coverage other than Lebron's opt in that it doesn't
sound like he really wants to opt in for I
don't know what to do. There's only so many problems
I can solve in one day, Fitzy, I solved your
Cowboys problem for you. I can't help you with the Lakers.

Speaker 6 (19:35):
Marcus Smart signing with the Lakers literally did not change
their odds to win the NBA Championship at all.

Speaker 5 (19:43):
The line didn't move at all.

Speaker 6 (19:46):
So Vegas sat back and we're like, well, that's cute,
but we're not changing anything. Chris Paul signing with the
Clippers did not move their odds at all. Right, So,
right now, as we sit, as I look on ESPN
bet futures, because it was the one that came up first,
the Clippers and the Lakers are both plus sixteen hundred
to win the championship. Oklahoma City is plus two sixty
plus two sixty versus plus sixteen hundred. Now, if I

(20:08):
had to ask Buck Rising to bet his house on
the number of minutes that will be spent, the number
of minutes that will be spent covering the NBA on
all national media platforms combined.

Speaker 5 (20:20):
For Oklahoma City versus the Lakers.

Speaker 6 (20:23):
If I had to bet, I think the right over
under on that would be the Lakers will get ten
times more coverage in Oklahoma City. Would you take the
over or the under on ten times more all over
being covered.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
See super over on aggregate over the course of the
season over over Like.

Speaker 5 (20:39):
Hell, yeah, you're right, that's probably like more one hundred times.

Speaker 4 (20:42):
More, you know. I mean, it's again, fancy Marcus Smart
just received more and greater media coverage than the champion,
the reigning champion re signing all three of their top
players to basically supermax deals. It's I've never seen anything
quite as clear and obvious as what's wrong with the

(21:04):
way that certain sports leaguers leagues are discussed now. I
do think your opinion about you don't have to be
great to be able to capture people's attention and to
are not the greatest. You don't have to be the
greatest to be able to capture people's attention the way
that you feel like it's required to be the quote
unquote face of a league. In this way, I think
there is no greater or there's no league that suffers

(21:27):
from that issue more than the NBA, because people don't
You don't give them a reason to care about the
product when you are not interested in discussing the product itself.
That was a frustration that I voiced on Fox Sports
several times when we were talking about the Celtics and
the Knicks and the Pacers and everybody else working their
way through the NBA playoffs, and when the Pacers finally

(21:50):
got to the NBA Finals, and I'm turning on ESPN's
studio coverage and it's just Stephen A screaming about Kevin
Durant being traded to wherever the hell before he ended
up landing with the Rockets, as opposed to actually covering
the game, giving me the nuances required to understand, okay,
what actually benefits Oklahoma City in this particular situation, given

(22:10):
what the lineups look like, and what the matchups look like,
and who's beneficient and who's not. Instead of actually talking
about basketball, they talk about the stuff around basketball, And
I think sometimes we can get too guilty of that too.
It's incumbent upon you. You can't force people to be
interested in something that they're not. And maybe the regular
season in the NBA is as good a case of

(22:31):
that as any. You just can't. If people aren't outright
basketball fans and aren't going to follow this on a
day to day basis, then you're not going to be
able to get them get their attention that way, and
you'll have to talk about larger themes. But when you
actually get to the basketball being important like it was
in the NBA Finals, and that's still the level of
dialogue that you're having around your sport, that's a problem
with the coverage, not with the sport itself.

Speaker 5 (22:53):
Let me ask you this though.

Speaker 6 (22:54):
All Right, he's Buck Rising on Jason fitzworin for the Guys,
Cavino Rich on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, So if I
make the argument that for Scotty Scheffler to become the face,
there's got to be this moment, right, I wonder today,
I'll stand by today. He's Oklahoma City, He's dominating, and
nobody cares. Is there something in the greatness though, to

(23:14):
your point, sustained greatness that takes him from Oklahoma City
to Golden State. And I don't know, like when Golden
State reached this level of sustained greatness would we have
paid as much attention to Golden State if it didn't
involve the Durant chapter that suddenly created heroes and villains
in such a remarkable way. I don't know, Like Steph
being so dynamic as a personality, is that part of

(23:36):
why we suddenly flocked to Golden State? Like was it
the greatness of Golden State that made us pay attention
or was it the side drama that went with Golden
State that forced people to take a side one way
or the other in addition to the greatness, Because certainly
I could see Scheffler going from Oklahoma City to Golden
State winning a bunch a bunch, a bunch a bunch,
and then there's so much dominant you're like, oh my god,

(23:58):
we gotta pay attention. I just don't don't know if
even that sustained greatness is really what we paid attention to,
or if it was the KD and the steff and
all of those other things.

Speaker 4 (24:07):
You have Scottie Scheffler playing for the Golden State Warriors.
Is that what just happened?

Speaker 6 (24:11):
No, I'm just saying that in order to become in
order to go from Oklahoma City, nobody cares to Golden State,
everybody cares. Is it just greatness or is it the
drama that goes around the greatness that makes.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
It your Your metaphor was too high level for me.
I got lost in translation there.

Speaker 6 (24:25):
Well, well, that that's you're you're pretty not smart. I mean,
the question stands.

Speaker 4 (24:30):
I've never argued the opposite. No, I'm just I'm just here.
I'm here for I'm a shell pony. Baby, I'm a
shell pony. That's what it is.

Speaker 6 (24:38):
You're one of those show but like right, I don't
know if you've seen the video trending on social media
of a of a tiny horse, a little pony that
comes in and it's they're using it to wake people
up from uh the kids that have under anesthesia, and
it's just running its face across the keyboard, which to
me is like, that's that's hell, that's living hell. Like,
teach the teach the pony to play something. I like,

(24:58):
don't just let the pony make rack in front of
the keyboard like that would come in and just absolutely no,
I'm out on this. Let make the pony play something.
Don't just like playing a bunch of arbitrary notes is
kid streaming?

Speaker 4 (25:10):
Don't put the pony in the hospital room in the
first place. Just get a golden retriever or something like.
I get that poor horse out of there. That's not
on the horse, that's on everybody else involved.

Speaker 5 (25:20):
Save a horse, ride a cowboys.

Speaker 6 (25:22):
Save us right now, Isaac, get us caught up on
what's trending, and then we'll see if Bucking actually answer
the question of what will make relevance.

Speaker 10 (25:28):
Go ahead, I'll save you by talking about the Cowboys.
Thanks to Jerry Jones, As everybody knows, Dallas Cowboys star
linebacker Micah Parsons reported to training camp today and Oxnard's
still without a contract extension. Amidst a series of ibrew
eyebrow raising comments about the negotiations that Jerry Jones made today,

(25:51):
including this one where Jones refers to Micah Parsons and
I'm not making this up.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
You'll hear it.

Speaker 10 (25:58):
He refers to Micah Parsons as Michael Parson.

Speaker 7 (26:02):
Of all the players that I've ever negotiated with, Michael
Parson is as savvy and knowledgeable and understanding of his
financial business relative to football as any player I've ever
been around. I've talked with people that have talked to him.
Let's put it like that. You know, I don't necessarily

(26:24):
talk to these agents, So I don't necessarily talk to attorneys,
and I do stuff everywhere, and I don't necessarily talk
to the people that are hired to do certain things.
I talk to the principals ninety percent of the time.

Speaker 10 (26:39):
I don't even know where to begin with that, Miell
Parson Anyway. Elsewhere, NFL media reported that Green Bay Packers
right tackles Zach tom has agreed to a four year,
eighty eight million dollar extension that includes a thirty million
signing bonus. That's the largest signing bonus front offensive lineman
in NFL history. City Chiefs head coach Andy Reid announced

(27:02):
that offensive tackle Juwan Taylor will begin training him on
the physically unable to perform list, a list no man
wants to be on anyway. Finally, in Major League Baseball,
multiple outlets report that the Kansas City Royals are calling
up forty five year old pitcher Rich Hill for his
twenty first major league campaign. Jason and Buck all yours.

Speaker 5 (27:26):
He's Buck Rising, I'm Jason Fitz hanging out with you.
I don't even know.

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Speaker 5 (27:51):
I'm I'm confused, Like Buck, I thought we were.

Speaker 6 (27:55):
Going to go back to talking about what we were
just talking about and Scotti, Shepper and all these No,
Michael Parson, how I mean, it just gets worse every
time we go back to what Jerry said.

Speaker 5 (28:06):
It just gets worse.

Speaker 6 (28:07):
Like who's let him trot out in front of a
microphone at this point?

Speaker 5 (28:11):
This is this is only getting worse for everybody.

Speaker 4 (28:14):
Yeah, but it's his microphone. I mean, what's he gonna do?
Say no, Jerry, He's gonna he's gonna have an inner
Monologue's gonna say no, Jerry.

Speaker 8 (28:20):
Na stage a whole press conference for him. Just make
him believe it's real, Let him say whatever he needs,
get it out, and then actually hold.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
The real one after they have enough money in Dallas
to hire extras to put together a faux press conference
for Jerry Jones and then be like, okay, guys, send
out a different email to the rest of the media,
be like, we're actually gonna meet in this actor reporters Brian,
Brian Schottenheimer's gonna be like, oh, thank god, we can

(28:48):
send him off to the fake press conference, Brian, aren't
you coming to the real press conference? No? No, no, Jerry,
I've got a couple of different things I gotta do
with the team. I'll be along later. Don't you worry.
You got it. You handle business. You tell him what's
the up, and you just let Jerry conduct the fake
press conference and everybody else at the same time, and
a different wing of the Cowboys practice facility in Frisco
is conducting the actual press conference, so the old man

(29:10):
can't say dumb things like it's just it's nonsense. It's
the best idea you've ever had.

Speaker 5 (29:16):
I look, I'm thinking about it, Alata Shower.

Speaker 6 (29:19):
I mean, so years ago, I played some shows for
this country guy, Easton Corbin at the time, and I'll
never forget Easton had an acoustic guitar that he always
had on stage, and Easton was terrible. Excuse guitar player,
but you couldn't tell Easton that like he had like
he just thought he thought he should be plugged in
and he should never have been plugged in. And it
was real simple, like Easton wasn't aware of it, but

(29:41):
his guitars just wasn't on in the house, so like
he's playing his guitar, but the electronics for the guitar
were like literally the sound guy would just turn his
guitar off, so like nobody was actually here.

Speaker 5 (29:51):
So Easton's out.

Speaker 6 (29:52):
There strumming away and he feels like he's really adding
something to the show.

Speaker 5 (29:55):
Thing was never turned on like so much.

Speaker 6 (29:58):
Just don't turn and Jerry Jones, Mike call, just like
let him go out there and just stand there and
then like you know, I like your idea of a
fake press conference, and then you know, when he goes
for his nap, do the real one. I don't know
how you stop this, but like you know, Pop Paul
is really just digging a hole for himself here at
this point, and it's it's painful to see because Buck,
you and I have talked about this before, but the

(30:19):
worst thing you can feel as a fan isn't your
team losing. It's realizing that ownership is too incompetent to
do the job anymore. And like I do think that
you have to look around when when Michael Parsons is
up for a contract negotiation and in the press conference,
the owner can't even get his name right. I lived
this as a Raiders fan when Al Davis kept calling

(30:39):
Lane Kiffen the wrong name in a press conference after
he was fired, And that was the moment I realized
that my owner just shouldn't be trotted out ever, and
I knew my team didn't have a chance.

Speaker 5 (30:49):
Like it's hard for me not to feel that way
for Cowboys fans right now.

Speaker 4 (30:54):
But there's nothing that's gonna change it, Like where's the
Dan Snyder level congressional subpoena that's gonna come for Jerry
Jones or Al Davis at the time or anybody else.
Like the circumstances that it takes to actually move the
needle at the most important position in a franchise. It's
not quarterback, it's the ownership. It's the thing that drives

(31:15):
people the most insane that they have the least amount
of control over. Because you can play armchair GM, you
can put together the best Madden roster humanly possible. You
can make all the right decisions on fantasy football or
anything else. You can have the perfect plan for your
football team to be able to execute in an offseason,
and an owner come in change her or his mind

(31:36):
about the way that a certain thing should be running,
or how they feel about the coach on a certain
kind of day, or which player should be starting over another,
or if you're a Jets fan, maybe allegedly you're taking
advice from the sixteen year old child of the owner
at the time about the Madden rating of a wide
receiver that you might potentially acquire, Like the stuff that

(31:57):
actually happens that you couldn't write in a script on
Hard Knocks or or Ballers or any of these other shows,
or something like that, that people wouldn't actually believe because
it is so mind numbingly stupid. I present to you
the people that run the most powerful league in North
American sports. The NFL ownership largely is incompetent when it

(32:18):
comes to this. And you know why, FITZI Because they
are the exact kind of thing that you are advocating against,
because they are also fans of this thing. Because they
make a rational decision, because they think just time spent
around the thing without actual expertise gives them the ability
to make informed decisions on the product that they think
is in the best interest of the product. Because I'm
a fan. Why wouldn't I make that decision. I know

(32:39):
what's best for the team, I know how to do this.
I want them to win. Why shouldn't my opinions matter here?
I'm trying to help them win. No, you're not. Get
out of way.

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Speaker 5 (33:05):
You're You're right.

Speaker 6 (33:06):
I just I'm watching one of the faces, not just
of the Cowboys, like I'm watching one of the faces
of the NFL that we know directly tries to talk
to and in times negotiate with players.

Speaker 5 (33:18):
Say the wrong number of games that Michael Parsons was
out due to.

Speaker 6 (33:21):
Injury, talk about as players possibly getting in a car
accident as a reason that they shouldn't get long term
deals use the wrong name for Micah Parsons, And this
is the person that the league relies on in every
possible like. The business acumen of Jerry Jones and what
he's meant to the NFL can never be questioned. It's
absolutely transcended any just one particular team, all the way

(33:42):
through the sport. The impact he's made for the NFL
over the course of the last thirty years is absolutely undeniable.
But when you see one of the true faces of
the NFL sit in front of a microphone in a
prepared moment, because you know he knows these questions are
coming and give you the wrong information about the wrong
name for the wrong player at all of this, you

(34:05):
got to look around and say, how the hell can
anybody trust anything that he's actually in charge of doing
at this point. If I'm it's not just the Cowboys,
the entire league should be concerned about what's happening with
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right after we get off the air, Ian, I should
point out you caught a straight for the Jets from
from Buck this time, not for me, so, like, I
just want to point out that one one is the
score here, yeah, I mean, and then he looks at
us like he did nothing wrong, Like.

Speaker 4 (34:46):
No, no, I didn't do it. I didn't bring up
super Bowl three. I didn't bring up your single digit
super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
Well, actually I brought up super Bowl three.

Speaker 6 (34:54):
Oh no, I mean, I'm just saying, for randomly, j
e Ts suck, suck, suck.

Speaker 5 (35:04):
Sorry, not just true, though it's so true.

Speaker 4 (35:08):
All right, they might be all right, I'm.

Speaker 8 (35:09):
Mom, they've been so they've been so normal this offseason.
Though I've got a little bit of hope not to
make this a Jets segment.

Speaker 6 (35:17):
You know, I'm not sure right now, if we're being honest,
I'm not sure if you'd rather be a Jets fan
or a Raiders fan. I honestly can't answer that. I
don't know the answer to it or a Cowboys would
you rather?

Speaker 5 (35:27):
Yeah? Or a Cowboys fan? But I do know that
would you rather?

Speaker 6 (35:29):
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Speaker 5 (35:33):
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Speaker 6 (35:50):
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(36:11):
Big shout out to Isaac for keeping us on track.
I'm not allowed to say thank you to everybody the
end because Buck says it's disingenuous, but you know, so,
I guess I you know, every time it's like, Hey, Ian,
you did a great job. Hey Iowa, Sam, you did
a great job. But because I do it at the
end of the show. Buck says it's too formulaic and
as a result, lacks sincerity. So, you know, apparently I

(36:31):
apologize for not saying it earlier. I just got to
avoid the constant trolling that is Buck rising.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
I mean, I just think it's wrong that you don't
tell these people that you set an alarm to remind
yourself to thank them instead of doing it organically. I
think that's a bit disingenuous.

Speaker 6 (36:44):
Wow, maybe if you said an alarm, you'd make the
next production meaning.

Speaker 5 (36:50):
It is time?

Speaker 7 (36:53):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
Is there another Isaac that's wandering around back there somewhere?
Did he call you Isaac? Now?

Speaker 1 (36:58):
Yeah, Isaac Loan cron in here?

Speaker 4 (36:59):
My bad is.

Speaker 6 (37:03):
Look you you presumed I made a mistake on it. Nonetheless,
you know what, let's get Let's get to the game.
If you've never heard this before, it is time before?
Would you you're terrible?

Speaker 4 (37:17):
For me?

Speaker 9 (37:19):
It's easy, guys, don't think too hard. I would you
rather Bucket's good or fix it?

Speaker 5 (37:26):
Man?

Speaker 8 (37:26):
I had high hopes because we're in for Camino and Rich,
but that might have been your guys's worst all time?

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Would you rather attempt thank you?

Speaker 5 (37:33):
Is there like a.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
Delay that I don't know about because I can see him,
hear him, and there has to be something that I'm missing.

Speaker 8 (37:40):
I've heard, I've heard you nail it before. But yeah, anyway,
let's jump right into the game here. We'll start with
this one. Would you rather Would you rather grow a
new eyebrow every time you tell a lie or shed
glitter from your ears when you're stressed?

Speaker 4 (37:58):
Oh no, I was gonna say, well the glitter, no sweat,
But I feel like the stress levels instead of like
looking like my blood pressure is too high and like
blood or steam spouting from my ears every time I
get pissed about something that ant NFL organization does, I
feel like the I feel like I have more control

(38:20):
over growing or not growing the eyebrow. All I have
to do is just not lie.

Speaker 6 (38:27):
Yeah, okay, So the most stressful thing in the world
for me is three hours every Sunday when I watch
my beloved raiders get the snock kicked out of them.
The thought of having glitter condescendingly trip out of my
ears during that entire process, while it.

Speaker 5 (38:40):
Taunts me, I need none of that.

Speaker 6 (38:42):
Look, I'll take the eyebrow, and I will I will
just live like I'm on, liar, liar, I will be
brutally honest with everybody, and look, if I'm not, I'll
just grow the eyebrow and be like, back off. But
there's no way that I need to add insult to
injury by having glitter pour out of my ears while
the Raiders find a way to break my heart.

Speaker 8 (38:59):
Every summing you think about how much glitter that is.
That's a lot to clean up.

Speaker 4 (39:03):
So much glitter too? Why?

Speaker 5 (39:05):
And it's just sad clean up too?

Speaker 6 (39:06):
Because you're like lost by three touchdowns, gonna sweep up
my glitter.

Speaker 4 (39:11):
It looks like a celebration, but really it's sadness.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
I guess you can at least shave. I don't know
whatever we're getting to any movie to next up?

Speaker 8 (39:20):
Would you rather be able to teleport but only into closets?
Or would you rather be able to fly but only
at a walking pace and while screaming.

Speaker 6 (39:31):
I'm gonna fly at a walking pace while screaming, because
here's the thing. Teleporting into a closet is an ultimate
level of creepy. That's gonna get your ass kicked at
some point. And I don't need that. I don't need
to teleport into the wrong closet and then all of
a sudden try explain to somebody that I've got a
teleportation machine that only gets me into a closet. If
I'm flying at a walking pace and screaming while I

(39:52):
do it, I'll embrace that. I'll wear a Superman outfit,
like I'll be all over TMZ right away, Like look,
I'm gonna make that into my whole shtick, and I'm
gonna like go right over like every time Buck is
on a date. I'm just gonna go out there and
I'm gonna fly at a walking pace right over the
restaurant the entire time, scrap the whole way.

Speaker 5 (40:09):
Oh yeah, I'm gonna ruin his life.

Speaker 8 (40:11):
Dragging one of those dragging one of those signs the
planes have, like Hi.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Buck, yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 5 (40:17):
If you don't, I'll have a sheet that says, text
me I'm lonely. Go ahead.

Speaker 4 (40:21):
Well that sounds about right. I'll take the closet transportation.
Nothing pisses me off. I just got I just got
back from a trip to California. Nothing bothers me more
than airports. If I can avoid airports, I'll I'll risk
the rare ass kicking by popping up in somebody's closet unexpectedly,
just to save myself the time.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
All right, I like this one. I like this one.

Speaker 8 (40:43):
Would you rather have a beard that whispers conspiracy theories
or a belly button that plays elevator music at full volume?

Speaker 1 (40:50):
One touch.

Speaker 4 (40:53):
When touched, though, is the keyword there? Right, It's like
nobody got somebody gotta like press it like an on
off button, so on the rare chance that somebody gets
close enough to your navel to fire off some fire
off some tunes or something like that. Yeah, the beard
whispering conspiracy. We got too many people with beards whispering
conspiracy theories. Anyway, I feel like the belly button thing

(41:14):
is probably the safer option. Scotti.

Speaker 6 (41:16):
Yeah, I mean, look, the belly button's way safer because
that's also a party trick. Like, depending on what you're
up to, you'd be like, hey, you want to press
my belly button.

Speaker 5 (41:24):
And like, hey, that that makes these a little weird things.

Speaker 4 (41:27):
You also on my finger. I guess you want to
press my belly button.

Speaker 6 (41:32):
Like nobody ever feels good about that if it gets whispered.
But yeah, I'm in for the belly button push.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
All right, well, we'll end with this one.

Speaker 8 (41:38):
Would you rather uncontrollably narrate your dreams allowed while sleeping
or have a squirrel appear and judge you silently every
time you make a decision.

Speaker 6 (41:47):
But I'll take the judge squirrel, like all day. I'll
take the judge squirrel, and I'll have a whole conversation
with No. I don't want to take the chance that like,
I'm having a weird dream and then all of a sudden,
I'm narrating that outpart.

Speaker 5 (41:57):
Like you can record it a long time, Buck, who
can hear that? I don't want that.

Speaker 4 (42:01):
You talk about the attention economy you get, like Ian said,
record it, put it on TikTok, and go super famous,
become the next owner of the Dallas Cowboys. Baby, look
at that full circle.

Speaker 6 (42:11):
No, I'm gonna I'm gonna let that squirrel stand and
judge me, and I'm gonna put that on TikTok. It's
judging squirrel dot com. I'll make an old a website
for the whole thing. He's Bucks Rising. I'm Jason Fitz.
We appreciate you guys hanging out with us. Stick with
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