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February 18, 2025 37 mins

Dan and Monse filling in for C&R as they address new layers of the Rick Pitino video and the reaction to it. Dan and Monse hey discuss Caitlin Clark's value to the WNBA. Plus, Dan and Monse discuss the Dodgers and Cubs opening in Japan.

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Speaker 1 (00:19):
That's who Rick Patino is calling out the big sports
babies On a Tuesday here on Fox Sports Radio. Most
of our studio audience left to watch Covino and Rich
earlier today on the Dan Patrick Show. That's why we
only had a smattering of applause instead of the full
round audits. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on,

(00:39):
hold on, hold on.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
I always do the big applause for the first hour
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Speaker 1 (00:44):
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Speaker 6 (01:00):
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Speaker 1 (01:03):
It is a Tuesday it is and Rick Patino's speech
to his team at halftime of a game continues to
make the conversation very interesting on a Tuesday afternoon. If
you miss this part of a documentary series put on
by Vice Sports about Saint John's and Rick Patino. This
is the It's hung lashing that Rick Patino gave his

(01:25):
team during halftime of a recent game that's really making
its waves today.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Digging and be a basketball player.

Speaker 7 (01:33):
Dig in.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Every time you miss a shot, you don't gain the plays.
We don't care about your misshots. You guys keep blowing
opportunity upon opportunity upon opportunity.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
You're like children with bad things happening.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Instead of digging it and be tougher, you will. Where
is your toughness? Where have you guys been raised that
you're so weak mentally give up when something that's more
right for you. Don't you know what adversity is all about.
That's a game of life, not the game of basketball.
You don't get down when things go wrong.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
You're thinking he could.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Comfort your whole Life's gonna be adversity?

Speaker 7 (02:16):
Who are feeling it?

Speaker 1 (02:18):
God?

Speaker 6 (02:18):
Smile from ear to ear every time I hear it
from me.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
I would love to stile. I would love to hear
it without the music.

Speaker 8 (02:23):
Though, yes, because it's kind of serial killer music, like
Jason Freddy's coming out You right now for a second.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
That's how you took it. It's like an aspiring like
we're about to enter the field of battle this next
twenty minutes.

Speaker 6 (02:34):
It made me think of a horror movie.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
We thought of. Yeah, I did not take it that way.
I think it makes it a bit cinematic, and I
think that it adds to it. And so I'm curious
on what the raw thing is because there has been
something that Rick Patino has said that is one hundred
times worse than what we heard in that If you
have a problem with what you heard in that recent clip,

(02:55):
none of us here on this show have a problem
with it, and judging by the calls that we've got,
no one else has had a problem with it, and
judging by the tweets, not many people have had a
problem with it. This is what Rick Patino said about
his team last year, during a season where they ended
up not making the NCAA tournament, made a nice late
rush to try to become tournament eligible, but ultimately fell short.

(03:16):
This is what Rick Patino said about his team two
reporters last season.

Speaker 9 (03:22):
We are so non athletic that we can't guard anybody
without fouling. I don't think they move well laterally. I
don't think they're going to pick it up in the
next week. I think this slow laterally. I mean Sean
Conway gives you everything he can, he's slow laterally. About
five guys of slow laterally. Even the Celtics when we lost,
I've enjoyed every minute being a bus and Celtic coach

(03:44):
didn't like the fact that we lost in that following year.
But this has been the most unenjoyable experience I've had
since I've been coaching.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Do you have any second thoughts of taking this job? No,
not at all.

Speaker 9 (03:55):
It's not Saint John's my team. I think they're very respectful.
They hear, but they don't listen. It's taken me a
month to get them to throw bounce passes, actually two
months to throw bounce passes. Just thinking of getting ready
for Georgetown, because Georgetown could definitely beat us. I'm not
even thinking in the future at all. I'm just thinking
of the next game and the next game, in the
next game and that's it.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
He named names. He and by the way, he wasn't
talking to his team, he was talking to reporters like
all of them.

Speaker 6 (04:24):
He kept it cool and calm.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
As a matter of fact, I think at the time
we appreciated it for his honesty.

Speaker 10 (04:31):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
But when you hear what mccronin got ripped for in
speaking to the media, this is what the UCLA head
coach said about his team earlier this year that he
got heavily criticized for in talking about his brewing team or.

Speaker 11 (04:47):
Soft So don't tell me you want to win. Like,
just don't tell me you want to win. It's crazy,
and it's every day.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
I'm tired of it.

Speaker 11 (04:53):
It's every day. I have the most energy of all
of anybody at practice. Every day I'm upset with everybody
in that locker room, assist coaches and my players. I mean,
I don't need to do anything else. I almost got
five hundred wins. I'm only fifty three. I mean, it's
a joke.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
It's a joke.

Speaker 11 (05:07):
But yet I come in and I have more passion
and energy and pride than everybody. And that's the problem.
So what the truth of it has been, It's really
hard to coach people that are delusional. The hungry dog
gets the bumb We got guys that think they're way
better than they are. They're nice kids, they're completely delusional
about who they are.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
So the reason why I think that is still striking
is because we laughed at Rick Patino. But I don't
hear much different from Beatino last year to what Mick
Cronin was saying.

Speaker 6 (05:37):
I don't either, And.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Cronin got raked over the coals for saying this because
he did it to the media, And so when we
talk about this fine line, this is another level of
it again. Rick Patino can say this now. I think
that the problem with what Patino did last year, maybe
he said it to his team's face and also had
the same message to the press, was at least in

(05:59):
this current clip of Patino, he's talking to his team.
When you're talking to the press, it feels like you're
airing your dirty laundry.

Speaker 6 (06:06):
Little bit.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
McK cronin got ripped for giving his own resume by
saying he almost had five hundred wins, And I think
that's the point that I'm trying to make as well
as we're giving Rick Patino. I'm not saying we're giving
him a pass, but he has the ability to say
that because of his success. And I think Mick Cronin
is trying to say, like, yeah, I'm successful too. I've
been around here too, and this is what I'm seeing.
And if you don't believe me because I'm not a

(06:28):
Rick Patin or I'm not a Jim Bayheim or I'm
not a Mike Krzyzewski, I still have been a round enough.
But he's he got crushed for that. So there's you
may even though everybody is on Patino's side, I'm telling you,
there's a fine line to this. And I think those
two examples show exactly what we're talking about.

Speaker 6 (06:44):
Why did he get crushed? I had no problem with
what he said either.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Jade Willis came down hard on He's the same thing. Yeah,
and he's talking about this generation players right now.

Speaker 6 (06:55):
I have I don't.

Speaker 8 (06:56):
I think I had heard Cronin say that, but like
I maybe just didn't remember it.

Speaker 6 (07:00):
Absolutely not bothered by it.

Speaker 8 (07:01):
It's exactly the same thing you could say, he would
they were both airing their laundry out and that you
don't appreciate that, But no, I am not bothered by that.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Okay, So we've had three callers patiently waiting, and I'm
gonna name your names just so you don't leave because
you've been patiently calling. We're not going to take any
more calls on this after these three. But ronin Steen
wait for wait for us. We're going to go to Ephraman, California,
a retired coach from Welcome to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 12 (07:25):
Hi, Hey, thanks for taking my call. I had to
call in at him. I had to call him due
to I'm gonna retired coach.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
I've been retired.

Speaker 12 (07:36):
The last kid that I coached. You might have heard
of him is Joshua Kelly who played for Charges Chill Men.
Absolutely and I live up Yeah, I live up in Lancaster,
and I retired due to the fact that parents are
changing the way their kids think and the way they
treat their kids at home. And the thing we had

(07:57):
when I was coaching was we had some heart. I'm
a disciplinarian coach, so parents would send their kids to
our team because I would get on their kids behind.
I would make sure that they did their school work,
and if they didn't do the school work, then they
couldn't play. I was real hard on kids, and when
I retired, that was the whole issue. Don't talk to

(08:20):
my kid like this, don't talk to my kid like that.
Parents walking on the field in the middle of the
game asking why their kids aren't playing. Well, your kids
not playing due to the fact that during practice, your
kids don't want to do what they're asked to do.
And the first thing the kids tell us is like, well,

(08:42):
I really don't want to play, but my parents are
making me play, right. So it has a lot to
do with the parents. And however, the parents are treating
these kids at home, that's how they expect the coaches
to treat them. And I was raised on old school
coaching in La win in the state championship in part

(09:03):
Water because I had sheriffs as my coach is telling
me what to do, screaming and hollering at me all day.
Going to Gardena high school and listened to coaches screaming
and getting on my butt for me not doing what
I'm supposed to do. So I passed what I learned
on to kids. And I have a lot of kids
that went to college and played pro ball, but it's
with they're taught at home. It's not the coaches. The

(09:26):
coaches that got to do what they have to started
to make the kids.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Better from great, great points. And I think it's exactly
what Jason Stewart was saying. Because Jason Stewart said that
he's guiltiest charged, at least with the generation of that
he raised his kid.

Speaker 13 (09:38):
He from echoing your sentiments. Jason, Yeah, I think that's it.
It's like I take full responsibility in this. Like I said,
there was an over correction. Most of my generation were
like latchkey kids. Our parents would just let us outside
until it got dark and they still didn't care where
we were. And like we made this over correction with
this generation where we were overparenting and it basically has

(10:02):
left us with this oversensitivity to coaching and yelling and criticism.
They don't know how to take any of that. And
I think that's kind of what Efron was getting.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
To Ron's and Rochester walking to Couldview and can Know
and rich Ron hngue twister for me, Hey, Ron, what's
going on?

Speaker 14 (10:19):
Dan?

Speaker 10 (10:19):
I really like you? But I called on Christmas Eve
Monsey was working and I told the person that's the
phone how much I loved her, and her laugh just
cracks me up.

Speaker 12 (10:28):
I hope he told you that.

Speaker 10 (10:29):
I hope she told you that, because I mean, your
laugh just cracks me up. I got a few points,
let me let.

Speaker 12 (10:34):
Me just get through them.

Speaker 10 (10:35):
So I went to Syracuse. We'd be Rick Patino three
times that year in nineteen eighty seven on our way
to the Final four, which was cool. But you know,
in high school, he's like, the coach didn't pay attention
to you. You were in trouble. That means he gave
up on you, you know what I mean. So if
he didn't pay attention to you, that was not a
good thing. So you wanted him to push you, you know.
And you know for every you know, by the way

(10:57):
Rick Potato's comments, you have to say about that, suck
it up? But cup, you know, And I think there's
always a good cop to go with his bad cop.
The assistant coach will come over and they'd be like, Hey,
it's okay, bab blah, teammates, you know what I mean.
But I wanted to say one thing. So I moved
to New York City. I've worked for an advertising agency
nineteen eighty eight and I was working on McDonald's New
York City account, and I was all girls in me

(11:20):
and I said, let's buy Wfan and they're like, no, no, no.
I was the only one that voted. Guests, I bought
put a huge amount of money into that. I got
to run into mad Dog. Tell me. It's a whole
career to me and probably you guys too, because by
saving Wfan, it kept sports radio on the air. And
you can all thank me for that.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah, thank you, Ron, thank you for doing that.

Speaker 6 (11:40):
Thank you man, and thanks for the call on the compliment.
I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
I did. I love always said I got one thing
after telling us four things. Yeah, I want to know
more about the beating SERI.

Speaker 5 (11:51):
Yeah, no, that was interesting that he went to the
final four and beat Patino didas she had three times.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
He was a student at Syracuse when they beat Providence.

Speaker 6 (11:59):
I see, okay, reach and later connect all that about that.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Jason knows it as well. That's his wheelhouse. That's Syracuse
team losing the Indiana in the National Championship game. All right,
Steen's in Vegas. Stein, help us put a ball on this.

Speaker 14 (12:13):
Hey, are you guys love the show? A huge fan.
One thing I really wanted to point out is the
fact that you know the recording is one sided. One
thing is really important the relationship between the coach, the players,
the parents, the coach and the players. And that being
said is you know, when I was growing up, I

(12:35):
have my coach card, but you know the guy, the
guy would always call us out at the same time.
You know, later on he'll be telling us, Okay, guys,
you need you need to fix this, fix that. But
on the game part, and that being said is you
have to create a relationship with the player. You know,
be confident enough to be able to call them out

(12:56):
what they need to at the same time award and
wouldn't be too And I feel like a lot of
the parents nowadays, especially this generation, don't even show.

Speaker 12 (13:05):
Up to practice.

Speaker 14 (13:06):
My kid is in little league, you know, and I
am there every single night. Today I have Little League
with my boys, and I'm going to be there. But
I create a relationship with the boys. I create relationship
with the coach, so if the coach needs to call
them out, then I will allow it, you know. And
I see a lot of parents nowadays. They show up
only for the games, not for the practice, and then

(13:28):
because the coach yells, they're like, oh, why is he young?
At my boy like, well he messed up, Well he
shouldn't be talking to him like the way, Well, you
needed to look at the relationship.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
You know, absolutely appreciate the phone calls. Yeah, that's the
part that we talk about. And even when Ron said
good cop, Bat and cop or maybe they're seeing the
same thing, like you've got to have that sort of
sort of relationship. It's off the court as well, of
what happens after practice or even in a high school situation,
what happens in the hallways. All of that plays into it.

(14:01):
But again, this is major college basketball and for anybody
to have a problem, maybe that sort of conversation that
Rick Patino had was this team is not what you
want to do to a seventh grade basketball team. But
there are ways, maybe not as many just one. Although
I did, I will admit I kept on wanting to
hear it just so I could hear Rick Patino say

(14:22):
opportunity like Apple opportunity. It was great with his accent
that he said it about three times and then I
played it over and over. But yeah, there are different
levels to it. And this is a one sided video. Again,
I think the documentary makes it. But even if you
take out the music. I think you're talking about a
veteran successful coach trying to get the most out of

(14:43):
his team after a bad first half.

Speaker 6 (14:44):
And it really just didn't seem like he was just
yelling to yell.

Speaker 7 (14:47):
You know.

Speaker 8 (14:48):
There were specific things, is what he was trying to
get across. And I thank all of our callers because
I feel like there were so many levels and angles
to this and it was just like you said, therapy
for people just to let it out at this point,
place like let it out and uh Steen the most
recent guy. It's like, yeah, parents, if you're not coming
to practices and you're not there for the process and

(15:10):
then you show up and you want to get all tough,
I would be embarrassed. If I was a kid, I'd
be like, you weren't here, Shut up, you're embarrassing me.
You know what, if you're not there for the process,
maybe don't insert yourself at the game.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
I have a three year old kid, and there's so
many things that I worry about that I just am
not ready. I had a buddy who told me, like
his kids kid's older now. But at one point during
travel baseball, like the travel team didn't want him back
so you had Yeah, so you had to go find
a new team. And I'm like, I'm like, man, yelling
coaches seems like a breeze, you know, as opposed to

(15:43):
having the you know, to deal with stuff like that.
So maybe this is just the tip of the iceberg.
So many flashbacks in terms of our experiences as well, yep,
that we could go into and dive into. But nobody cares.

Speaker 6 (15:58):
So nobody care.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
You don't care what happened to me in junior you know,
junior year in high school basketball. Even though I've told
the little league story and a freshman basketball story, you've
given a volleyball, high school volleyball, and a seventh.

Speaker 6 (16:12):
Grade I told you that off air.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Oh that was off air. Okay, everything blends together during
Community Rich on Fox Sports Radio. All right, she is
Moncey Bellagio's I'm Dan Bayer. It was a good story,
though it was it was a very good story. Also,
Moncey would get benched when the team's best player and
her best friend would do wrong. That was also.

Speaker 8 (16:28):
Yeah, that was my volleyball coach, my varsity team. If
my best friend who was our outside hitter because I
was like libero, if she would mess up, I would
come out of thinking.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
That's how you send a message to your team, and we.

Speaker 6 (16:40):
Were it was just like, you know, it would affect
her more. Yeah, if not, you would call a time
out to make us run sidelines when somebody messed up,
and they were like, man, this is exhausting. Yeah, just
in front of everybody.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
She's Moncey Bellagios. I'm Dan Byer in for Cavino and Rich.
Jason Stewart is here. I was sam Isaac Lowancrown at
the news desk giving us the latest. We mentioned Caitlin
Clark earlier. She is in the news because someone tried
to put her estimated worth and what she means to
the WNBA in a possible number value. It's impossible. You

(17:12):
can't do it. We'll talk about it next Here on
Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 7 (17:15):
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Speaker 1 (17:29):
Give you on Rich here on Fox Sports Radio. She's
Monty Belano. So I'm Dan Pyre. If Kitlin Clark got
one hundred million dollar contract from the WNBA, is that
worth is would she be worth every.

Speaker 6 (17:39):
Penny, every penny, every penny.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
They should pay her in eggs. They should pay her
an eggs instead of dollars, because that's much more valuable.

Speaker 6 (17:49):
Right now our bitcoin.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Eggs are more valuable than bitcoin right now, My goodness,
the price of eggs.

Speaker 8 (17:55):
I wouldn't.

Speaker 6 (17:55):
I don't really shot for eggs. I don't eat a
lot of eggs.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
It's only been in the nationals. I know.

Speaker 6 (18:01):
I know, but I do not know.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
If you were watching only the Big ten network at
your house, I could understand why you wouldn't know about
this drama over the price of eggs.

Speaker 6 (18:10):
No, I know that.

Speaker 8 (18:13):
But if I showed up and bought eggs and they
were eight ninety nine, I would not know.

Speaker 6 (18:18):
If that's higher.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
You know what I'm saying right now, that's low. That
would be a steal. Oh okay, Oh.

Speaker 6 (18:23):
That sounds bad.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Yes, I ain't paid that. Some people have to. Oh, man, yeah,
the price of eggs. Kaitlyn Clark's agent, Aaron Kane, spoke
with ESPN and posed this question, will Caitlyn Clark ever
be paid by the WNBA What she's really worth to
the league?

Speaker 8 (18:45):
And that's the question to the league like, not just
what she's worth in general for her talent, but what
she's worth to the league is a whole separate conversation.

Speaker 15 (18:53):
We've never had like an athlete like this, because like
Lebron came into a league that was already very success
and he was you know, they instantly gave him money
and stuff and all of that.

Speaker 6 (19:07):
But Caitlyn Clark, which she is, is something we have
never experienced before.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
And she answered the question, I don't think that's possible.

Speaker 6 (19:14):
I don't think it's possible.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
But in the same breath, there's you could say the
same thing about Michael Jordan. Okay, yeah, what Michael Jordan
meant to the NBA in the nineteen nineties, But.

Speaker 8 (19:25):
Did they know that right away, like what he was
worth to the league immediately?

Speaker 6 (19:30):
The way we know Caitlyn.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
Clark is no. And while I have not seen the
movie air and I don't know if it is dealt
with at any of this point, Caitlyn Clark, like many
people like Tiger Woods, like the super duperstars of sports,
you're not making your money through your sports. No, you're

(19:53):
not making your money through your team, You're not making
your money through your league. That's the avenue that you appear,
and so there's the indirect portion of it. But it's
through Nike, of course, it's through Gatorade, it's through McDonald's,
it's through all of these other other these other other
entities where you can just make your Mucco Mucco bucks.

(20:16):
And so when you see the top earners that Forbes
puts out every year, it's never of who won the
most money, right, It's never really about that. Sure, there
are contracts that are valuable, and there are big contracts
and NBA players are there, but it's what they get
on top of of that with the endorsement, so to

(20:38):
the point of getting the w n b A and
being what she's worth. Yeah, there really isn't a number
for it, But there never really is a number for
anyone else either, like for the NBA. Like I think
you could have the same conversation for some of those superstars.
I think even even Lebron James, you could say the
same thing for it that he was probably the underpaid

(21:01):
for what he actually did mean in drawing attention to
the NBA. Steph Curry, same exact thing. But Steph Curry's
going to make his money via under armour in other places.
So that's so I get the point that her agent,
her agent's always going to say, you know, this is
my client, should get more, should have more. But it's
just the point of that's not how it's worked. It's

(21:21):
never worked that way. But I know this could ruffle
some people's feathers. So we're talking about it, right.

Speaker 8 (21:27):
I mean, it's true, she's going to be fine making
her money elsewhere, there's no question about that, as with
other professional athletes. But I really do think she's she's
a different story than previous stars just because.

Speaker 6 (21:40):
Of what she is doing immediately to a.

Speaker 8 (21:43):
Product that many would deem unsuccessful, and her by herself
is slowly turning it around.

Speaker 6 (21:50):
And I use slowly, but maybe you could he was
doing it immediately, and so I completely agree with you.

Speaker 8 (21:56):
But I do think she is a little bit different,
a little bit more special to the league than other
athletes in the past.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
So as part of this piece, you could say it's
done by ESPN. There was an economist at Indiana University
that did the numbers on the economic impact Kaitlin Clark
had huh on the city of Indianapolis. Thirty six million
dollars was the number that they used for the economic impact,

(22:29):
So that would be people getting hotels, going to restaurants,
going to the Fever games to see Caitlin Clark, which
would there be a bunch of And she was almost
she was more than a quarter of the league's economic activity,
which includes merchandise, TV and those ticket sales that you
talk about. She slated to make seventy eight thousand dollars
for the twenty twenty five season. That's ridiculous, the highest

(22:51):
salary you could make in the WNBA and what's a
forty game season plus your playoff games two hundred and
forty one thousand dollars a year.

Speaker 6 (22:59):
Yes, it's it's been tough for WNBA players. It's been tough,
but it is what it's been, right, and hopefully it's changing.

Speaker 8 (23:08):
That's the direction that she's pushing me to change for everybody, and.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
She is and so she's not getting her worth there however,
But again, you got to shoot deal from my from
Nike absolutely coming out, and I know that there are
other products. I mean, I think Sam mentioned the State
Farm in the State Farm commercials that she does, So
you're getting more than seventy eight thousand dollars to appear
in those sort of things. It's the same thing with
Michael Jordan and Nike in my mind, Jason Stewart.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
So along these lines, there was a story today and you,
Isaac and Monsieur are better at this than me, the
president of the WNBAPA. I think a current player, Naika Agua,
mikeygmckayuga Mickey. Okay, So Sports Illustrated has a feature on
her right now. I don't know if it's a print

(23:56):
version or just digital or both. And this is the subheadline, Okay.
The headline is Egwa Mickey wants to make the w
NBA's moment last.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (24:07):
The subheadline is this, with the popularity of women's basketball
at an all time high, the w n b a
PA president and her fellow competitors have the leverage to
make some real progress. And no offense to h Emmay.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
I don't know that's the author of the piece.

Speaker 4 (24:27):
She didn't write this subheading, but the editor that did
is just wrong. It should write read instead of what
the popularity of women's basketball at an all time high.
With kit In Kaitlyn Clark's impact on the w NBA,
there are chances here to kind of leverage that and
make some money in the short term for women's basketball. Instead,

(24:49):
they're like they're trying to make this point yet again,
that there is some kind of a rise in women's
basketball in general. When I think I would make the
point that Caitlyn Clark's impact on the game is something
that's generational and unique and will probably pass once she
leaves the league.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
I think all of that is fair, But I would
also say that in the times of in the eighties.
You know, we've used this before with Caitlin Clark with
Burden Magic, but I just I say in the nineties again,
because Jordan was the guy, like you're comparing her, like
Michael Jordan was underpaid even when he's making thirty million
dollars a year and his final years with the Bulls

(25:31):
in nineteen ninety eight. I understand Jason's point, and I'm
not saying people aren't watching the NBA because there was
great talent in the nineteen nineties, but it was completely
elevated by Michael Jordan. I know there's a bigger gap
between Katelyn Clark and the other WNBA players than there
were Michael Jordan and those NBA players at that time
a much bigger gap. But that's that's the way that

(25:56):
the cookie crumbles. And I think Jason's point is, you're
just mad that they're saying that it's elevated the game
when it's just basically people want to see Kaitlyn Clark.

Speaker 4 (26:04):
I just think that the people that cover the sport
and the people that talk about that sport, I think
they're they're they're like, either they're delusional or they think
that the people that cover sports in general are stupid,
because I think we all know that this is not
a women's basketball thing. This is a Caitlyn Clark is
a unicorn thing. So I just get upset when Emma

(26:27):
Beccallieri and all these people paint this wrong picture of
this whole time.

Speaker 6 (26:31):
I understand what Jason is saying, and he's not wrong.

Speaker 8 (26:35):
I do think that there is an interest coming from
Caitlin Clark to.

Speaker 6 (26:40):
Beyond her in the WNBA, and not for everybody. I
think it's a small percentage.

Speaker 8 (26:45):
And I'm going to use myself as an example. I
love Kaitlyn Clark and I would want to watch her
any day, but I this year, I already talked to
Brian we talked to Sam that we want to go
watch a couple of Sparks games, watch Cameron Brink and
Kelsey plummet Rakia Jackson. I think that's how she says
her first name is am I right, Sam, Rakia Jackson,
Like because of Caitlin, I am interested in going to watch.

(27:07):
But I don't know what percentage that is of people?
Is it really smart?

Speaker 13 (27:12):
Very few?

Speaker 6 (27:12):
You know what I mean? But like, yes, you're not wrong, Jason.
It is Kaitlin Clark.

Speaker 8 (27:17):
It's not the WNBA is getting more popular.

Speaker 6 (27:20):
It's Kaitlin Clark is making the WNBA more popular.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
All I think there's a golf parallel as well, because
it's with Tiger Woods. But this is why that article
has to say what it has to say. And Kaitlin
Clark was resented by so many when she came into
the league, and people got sick of being asked about
Caitlyn Clark all the time. So you kind of dial
back that rhetoric in asking about Caitlin Clark. It's viable

(27:46):
you could ask every single day. If you're bringing up
this topic, you are bringing up Kitlin Clark's name, just
like every golfer was in the mid to late nineteen
nineties and talking about Tiger Woods, and at some point
they just don't want to talk about it anymore. They
don't want to talk about him anymore. They want to
talk about themselves. And it actually becomes toxic for the

(28:08):
game that it's so much about Tiger Woods. Yes, and
so that's the point where it's almost where you have
to you have to start framing it in that way.
Even though we know the truth, truth, truth, we say
the truth hurts, even though we know the truth. When
we look back at golf, we now look back at

(28:28):
it as the Tiger Woods era. But it was saying
golf had this enormous explosion in the late nineteen nineties, Well,
it was only because of Tiger Woods. It was not
because Justin Leonard won the nineteen ninety seven Open Championship,
or Ernie Els backed up his nineteen ninety seven or
his US Open win with another US Open winn. And
I know it was all because of Tiger Woods. But

(28:49):
you ask all of these players just constantly about Tiger Woods,
and they get sick of it, and it's not healthy
for the league. And I think at that point, maybe
we've gotten to that point. This was a little backwards
in the way of I mean, make I take that back.
It was kind of similar because Tiger burst down on
the scene and he won, and he was great, and
a lot of people weren't used to him. But Tiger

(29:10):
had I think a bigger support system around him than
maybe Caitlyn Clark had. And plus he plays an individual
sport as opposed to a team sport. But it's healthier
for the league to talk that way than it is
to just put it on one players.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
I were Sam totally, Dan, and I don't think you
could even write this article or interview the president of
the Players Association if you just go with the Caitlin
Clark as a star and everybody else's orbiting around her.
You have to go with like the collective is experiencing
a boost. You can't even write because you're you're totally
changing the tone of the piece. If you're like, well,

(29:45):
we really know the truth, it's really Caitlyn Clark and
everybody else, Yeah, you can. You can't have that optimism
for the future for a league which is consists of
many people if you just go there's only one star
and everybody else orbiting around her.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
And that's where you let Nike and State Farm and
all those other had companies that she's with provide her
for her worth and not you know, ever of the
highest salary without the accomplishments that other NBA players. And
can I have one more thing?

Speaker 3 (30:10):
I just saw Angel Reese doing a McDonald's commercial and
she's like, yeah, we can't. We can't pay our rent
with what we're paid. I'm like, I think you're doing
just fine. Like you you are one of the lucky
ones who has endorsements. Yeah, she is speaking on behalf
of all the players, and I get that and it's
probably important that she does that, but I'm also sort
of like, you're also a millionaire, so like, I can't
feel too bad about you.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Remember it wasn't just one person who built women's college basketball.
It was two. There was two of them. It was
Clark and Angel Race. That's an Angel reset. That's what
we're mocking.

Speaker 7 (30:40):
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March eighteenth, play ball at three am Our local time

(31:14):
on the West Coast, six am Eastern time on the
East Coast, as the Dodgers and Cubs will open up
the Major League Baseball season. But second straight year we've
had international baseball. Last year was South Korea? Was that's worthy?

Speaker 13 (31:30):
All?

Speaker 1 (31:30):
Right? Games?

Speaker 12 (31:31):
Were?

Speaker 1 (31:31):
We know the NFL is expanding the ever expanding game.
We had a game take place to open the season
in Brazil this past season. The NFL is expanding to
Spain and Ireland, and then in twenty twenty six we'll
get a game in Australia. All this international play for
these American based sports leagues, Monte Milagos, as we're a

(31:55):
month away from opening day. As a Dodger fan that
you are, how are you feeling about seeing your Dodgers
start defense of their World Series title seventeen hours ahead
of where they call home.

Speaker 8 (32:10):
I mean it sucks that you cannot have opening like
opening Dan, I use quotations because the first game here
you can treat it as opening Day, right, but to
kick off the season that it won't be here.

Speaker 6 (32:22):
Yeah, it's a little disappointing.

Speaker 8 (32:24):
But to be honest, I completely understand, especially what the
players that the Dodgers have as to them going to Tokyo.
It makes absolutely perfect sense. But yeah, like, okay, it's
not opening Day here, but the first game here, you
can still treat it like opening Day.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Is it as simple as saying, this is just this
is not meant for you, This is not not everything
is meant specifically for you. This is obviously a bigger picture,
just like the NFL is saying the game's going to
look exactly like it looks for you every Sunday. When
you're watching the game, you just won't realize that it's
in Brazil, or that it's in Spain, or that it's

(32:58):
in Australia.

Speaker 8 (32:59):
So I think it's that's a little different because in NFL,
I feel like it kind of sucks.

Speaker 6 (33:04):
There's only eighteen weeks.

Speaker 8 (33:06):
You get maybe nine home games, eight home games, and
then they take one away from you.

Speaker 6 (33:10):
And so with baseball, it's like.

Speaker 8 (33:12):
There's a lot of games you're gonna get to watch
your team at home if you really want to.

Speaker 6 (33:16):
With football, I think it's a little bit more different.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
It's not that it.

Speaker 8 (33:19):
Bothers me with the international games in football, but it
is like, do we really need to have this many?

Speaker 1 (33:25):
I don't have a problem with it. I just wish
and I don't there's no way that you could do it.
I just wish that it wouldn't be two weeks or
a week and a half prior to actual opening day,
right where you have this grand opening and then you're
closed for ten more days and then the store reopens.
Like that's how it feels with Major League Baseball. We're

(33:46):
going to have stats that are on the board, and
again this is nothing new. That's my problem with it. Otherwise,
if they want to go to Japan, if they want
to go to South Korea, if they want to go
back to Australia like they did, they want to go
to you know, South America and player in Africa, whatever
the case is, it doesn't matter to me because I'm
sitting here watching the TV. I just hate the scheduling
of it, where at least the NFL it fits within

(34:08):
the scheduling windows, so it's no different than any other
game that I would watch.

Speaker 8 (34:11):
But at the same time, there's no other way to
do it right like they do it that way for
a reason, with the traveling and trying to get back
in a rhythm and coming.

Speaker 6 (34:20):
But you're not wrong. It is weird that there is
kind of like a big break.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
I was shocked that they had the Brazil game as
an opener and playing it on a Friday was whatever,
But to then not have the team of a bye
week after that, mm hmm. Because of the significant travel
that it entailed. They didn't change time zones. Really it
was different. Just instead of flying across the pond, you
were going north and south. There was a longer trip

(34:46):
to Brazil than it would be to go to the
UK if you're the Philadelphia Eagles. I was surprised that
the NFL was able to fit it, but I don't
have a problem with that. I just think it's weird
to have Opening Day happening at three am here in
the States. I wish they could figure out a way
to incorporate it within the regular schedule. Jason Stewart, you're
a Dodger fan, but you're also a baseball fan. Are
you on board with these international starts.

Speaker 4 (35:08):
No, I hate it, and I why not make them
exhibition games? Because they are? Why why do they have
to why do they have to count?

Speaker 1 (35:14):
Now?

Speaker 4 (35:16):
I know Dan hates this topic. He thinks it's lazy
and it bores him. But what's good for the game
of baseball? You hate when you hate when hosts spend
time on this, But I will say this, for a
sport that seems to be hemorrhaging younger modern day fans,
I think that taking two regular season games out of
Dodger Stadium or out of Wrigley, not making them a

(35:37):
domestic opener, I think is bad for the game. I
don't know why I should care that they are trying
to appeal to Japanese viewers. That's I think. That's my thing,
and we're coming up on it. I think ESPN is
trying to renew the deal for their their TV package.
I think baseball needs to be concerned about domestic audience,
domestic media.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
See it makes it makes sense to go to Japan
and South Korea, where the sport's already popular and the
leagues are known. To me, it's more of a stretch
for the NFL to go to Brazil to try to
untap a resource that they feel they're trying to squeeze
more dollars out of. Like to me, it's like, okay,
let's reward the fans in Japan and so they could
see Sho Heo Tani in exactly see they start playing

(36:19):
Major League Baseball.

Speaker 8 (36:20):
It makes sense why the Dodgers are playing there, yess
and the Cubs, Yeah, it makes sense.

Speaker 6 (36:24):
You know, I'm with you.

Speaker 8 (36:25):
With football, I just feel like if we keep adding
international games, there's gonna be teams that have six home games.

Speaker 6 (36:33):
That sucks.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
It won't be that bad, it won't be that bad.
It's gotta be dramatic when they expanded, when they expand
into the seventeenth game. That's the hope of sixteen international games.
I get what you're saying, but right now there's a
not even schedule. AFC next season will have the nine
home games and the NFC will get the eight. But
then there's gonna be some teams that are gonna end
up being the home teams.

Speaker 8 (36:54):
And so yeah, jun the Jogs usually play once or
twice across the plaint.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
They do, but they play once is a home team,
and then then the next week they're the road team,
so they don't lose two games. That's the reason why.
That's how they get away with it. Hey, all I
can say is this. Get used to it because it's
not going away.

Speaker 6 (37:14):
It's baseball. It's football too.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
The NBA just played a game in France. Yes, yes,
nobody got there. Andy's in a bundle in that one.

Speaker 6 (37:24):
Because there's a lot of games.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
Stop yelling at me like Rick Patino, she's Monsie, I'm
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