May 26, 2025 • 37 mins
Dan and Monse in for C&R as they dive into some dollar figures that prove Caitlin Clark's value to the WNBA. Dan and Monse discuss the relevance of Exit Velocity in baseball. Dan and Monse preview game three of the Twolves-Thunder.
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And it's billion with a B. Welcome in. It's a
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that all means.
Speaker 5 (00:26):
I don't even know what it means.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
On Airbnb, although yesterday I went to a store purchased something.
They said, would you like X amount off if you
sign up for our rewards program?
Speaker 5 (00:39):
Love that?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Sure, it's it's not a credit card thing. It's just
you're gonna get a bunch of emails from us. You
know what I can deal with that?
Speaker 5 (00:46):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
My name, my last name was spelled you ready for
this v e e y e r V. Yes. I
have no idea why veer I get it buyer b
e y e R a little different. But when I
spelled it to him, I said, how do you spell it?
B e y e r? He somehow got ve e
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y e R. Then I had to do the B
as in boy and wait, there's there's not two e's.
Well there's two e's, but they're just not back to back.
But it's literally me talking to you driving, not on
the phone. Whoever's writing Shotgun with you could not understand
what you were saying. I get it if you're ordering
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Starbucks or you're getting a burger in, you're in the
drive through, and it doesn't there's a connection issue. But
when I'm standing right there and I tell you what
it is, I just expected a little bit more.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
No, I don't think you're asking for much. If you're
spelling it out.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I get if they would say Manzi, if they spelled
it m O N s E. Y. Oh, it's not.
It doesn't make your day, but you can like understand it.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
Sure, No, this straight up he chose to not spell
your name. Yeah, he's he heard you. He's like, no,
we're gonna spot like this like.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Be calling you Monty. Right, Yeah, You're like, it's mansei
m O NTI you are Monty. That's the equivalent of
whatever this guy heard. But we got it all squared away.
Jason Stewart is here, Chris perffets here, Steve de Seger
is at the news desk. He'll give us all the
latest news of the day. And if you've heard Steve,
he's told you Caitlin Clark is going to be out
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two weeks because of a quad strain for the Indiana fever.
Now there's a lot to unpack here because there was
a recent report from Caitlin Clark. And the reason I
used the b for billions was a professor of finance,
an associate professor of finance at Indiana University Columbus, did
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a study that said Caitlin Clark generated twenty six point
five percent of the WNBA's economic activity last year, and
as part of this, in speaking with NBC News, said
that Caitlin Clark, with modest inflation, could make eight hundred
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and seventy five million dollars for the league in twenty
twenty five, and as time goes on, could be worth
a billion dollars to the association, the w as they
call it. That is the amount of value that Caitlin
Clark cast to the WNBA.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
I'm actually surprised it was twenty would you say twenty
four six and a half. I'm surprised it was that low.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
I thought it would have been a little bit higher,
if I'm being completely.
Speaker 6 (03:36):
Honest, because the effect the what she is doing is
is there. It's there. You don't have to search hard
for it. You can see the lines till this day
for anyone trying to watch a Fever game, their first
home game, there was a line hours before tip off
for merchandise like it's it's there. So I'm actually surprised
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it's a little bit low.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
I think it's when you look at the expansion of
the league. They've added the team at Golden State, that's helped,
but when they're adding a team in Portland as well.
I think Cleveland was in the in the running for
a franchise. In fact, so many cities were in the running.
Toronto's going to end up getting a team, but you
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had multiple markets. Nashville applied for a WNBA team. I mean,
this was This is all of recent and so you
can see that expansion. There's going to be a new
collective bargaining agreement that's going to be set out, which
is why the players union opted out. This was part
of the piece as well. The players Union decided that
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they can get a better deal because of Caitlin Clark,
and it does really mute anybody who tries to diminish
her value to the league when you actually have these
numbers and really, manci more importantly, these dollar signs, like
because that's that's what proves everything. You can take TV
ratings and figuring them out in whatever way you want,
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But if Kaitlyn Clark is making the WNBA a billion
dollar business, I don't know how you can have any
argument otherwise about her value.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
You can't have any other argument, and anybody that wants
to you just can't take them seriously. Because even though
there's a ton of people who dislike Kaitlyn Clark, I
think she's one of those rare athletes that people may
hate watch.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Just like I used to watch the Lakers.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
I would hate watch them, not the same anymore because
they're just not as good I know with Lebron, But
you know what I'm talking about, like back in the day,
and I do feel like a lot of people hate
watch Kaitlyn Clark and her being injured for two weeks
is going to be a big hit, Like people are
not going to tune into these.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Games, I'll be honest, and I'm want to bring in
Jason Stewart because I know he's been watching Caitlyn Clark
games as much as he can, and said this much
about this season. I saw Caitlyn Clark play a little
bit in the opening game against the Sky It was
opposite golf, so I was watching that, and then I
watched about the second half of their game against the Liberty.
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I didn't watch any of the games during the week
that they played, so I wasn't locked in and in tune.
At that point, You're saying people are going to drop
off for the two weeks, and I agree, Jason. Have
you been watching even midweek games with a fever?
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Not as much midweek? I tuned in and I followed
the box score and whatnot. But I definitely caught those
two Saturday games. And what was it at the end
of this past game, the end of the first half
when she hit the bus.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Remiver like vintage Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
That's what everybody's paying for. That's what everyone's showing up for.
That's what I showed up for. I want to give
credit to Dan for saying something in the week in
the wake of that Angel Reeve Caitlyn Clark, you know,
altercation if you want to call it. Dan said something
very smart, and it makes sense Angel Rees went after
Katelyn Clark feeling empowered because I think coming off of
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last season there was this big anti Caitlin Clark thing
within the league, and then when it didn't happen, when
the whole league didn't get behind Angel Rees, and she
was like the political wins were not behind her, and
then that whole allegation and the investigation that what happened
to the investigation, who knows, But I think that that
was a smart thing for Dan to say. It's like
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the reaction Angel wasn't getting the reaction she thought she
would get when she went after her physically, And I
think that speaks for what the messaging is to the
players and the coaches and the media. This is a
golden goose. Let's be more positive about her. Let's be
let's talk more positive about her. That would be Angel
Reaves just saying no comment to questions about her. But
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I think that that's a great example of not only
does the league know that she's the golden Goose, but
I think they're going to go above and beyond to
try to protect her.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
About that time.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
It's about damn time, because they didn't do that last year,
they weren't prepared for her last year.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
The opposite was opposite. Yeah, I still think that there
are points where maybe people will toggle the line, but
I felt Angel Reese and not to bring up the
foul again. And to Jason's point was that Angel Reese
was waiting for Caitlin Clark to do something so she would.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
Have an excuse for metually.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
But I also said, to the point, now, when we
look at these numbers of what Caitlin Clark means to
the league, I think the WNBA is guilty of keeping
this rivalry going. And it's why it was the opening game.
You can't tell me that this game this past weekend
against the New York Liberty was not as good as
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the opener against the Sky. And I actually made this
exact matchup a point because the Liberty were the defending champions.
Why wouldn't you have your biggest star play against the
defending champions in your opening game. That would be mega draw,
huge draw. Instead, what they did is they went back
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to the wall where the Aces faced the Liberty. Now,
last year the WNBA finals were the Liberty against the Lynx,
not the Aces. But they wanted some sort of old
rivalry and then put Caitlan Clark against Angel Rees again,
and now with this two week injury, they're gonna face
the Sky. I get it, They're gonna play a bunch.
It's only a forty game schedule, but it's gonna be
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a nationally televised game. Why because you think that there's
this rivalry, but Caitlin Clark is so much bigger and
so much more important not only to her team but
the league in the entirety of women's basketball, and I
think the WNBA needs to separate it. They shouldn't feed
into the Sky versus Fever. The Fever beat him by
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thirty some odd points. You mentioned earlier. The Sky haven't
won a game this season, Like, there's no reason to
feed into that rivalry when one when your biggest piece
could be caught up in it and it's not even
her fault now maybe even lucky for her, she's going
to miss these two games, but for the WNBA over
these next two weeks and what such a limited schedule
is going to hurt the league. But that's also why
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I think that there's so much value to this. While
Jason was following the games and not watching them, you
watched all of them last year, you're taking time out
to watch. I watched on a Saturday. There weren't as
many games going on and things going on. The NBA
was later on at night, hockey was at night. But
when you're trying to figure out what to watch, that
game was on Network TV. I tuned in and kept
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it there. I could have watched golf on the Golf
channel or gone anywhere else, but I put it on
there and I kept it there. Also, because we're only
going to get three months of her YEP in three
months of this season. So when we look at Caitlin
Clark even compared to like the NBA and why we
don't watch in the regular season, I think a forty
game schedule really plays into the value of the WNBA
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and makes Caitlin Clark and that league more of a
must watch property when you only have an opportunity to
watch them forty times.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
Yeah, and they're say minimum of two weeks, what if
it's even more. I think Steve mentioned in his update
that she hadn't missed her entire really career yet for
any injury. So it's like, I'm sure they're going to
approach with caution but quad injuries, aren't they also a
little bit rough to get through, kind of like a
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hamstring injury.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
Yeah, like they're a little bit harder to get to.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
The other side.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (11:28):
Yeah, So I hope it really is only two weeks,
but we are going to see an immediate dip in
viewership when it comes to the w NBA, and it's
like trickling up every single time, a little bit more
like you said you tuned in when.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
There was a golf on just to watch a little
bit of it. Since when is that a thing?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yeah, it was a good game, and it.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
Wasn't It was a really good game actually, And I.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Know that's you're either in or you're out. I don't
feel that way. I think there are a lot of
different levels to it. But when Caitlyn Clark was complaining
about the whistle at the end of the game that
she didn't get where the Liberty ended up winning, Yeah,
I said to myself, I wonder if that's ever going
to get old. Yeah, because we've seen when she was
at Iowa her dad kind of telling her hate chill out,
chill out exactly, saying those exact words, calm down, don't
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be talking to the officials don't be complaining as much,
and there was a lot of that on that last
call that she didn't get that shot off, and I
wanted to myself, all right, could this be something Since
we're sitting here having conversations about shake Gilgess Alexander and
him complaining or wanting plays reviewed and whatnot, could this
actually happen to Caitlin Clark. We're now not going to
know for the next two weeks because of the quadd inch,
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but it.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
Is a thing happening now because I saw videos of
people proving how I think the word that I saw
was maybe a brat, and how she does.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
Complain, and it was videos of her hitting a.
Speaker 6 (12:44):
Chair at IOWA, her yelling at a ref and like, yeah,
she's she's definitely emotional, and I don't blame her because
she wants to win. But that last play, I was like, hey, Len,
she got you, She got you clean from under She
took that ball from under you.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Is not a foul at least I did. I thought
that was the right call.
Speaker 6 (13:02):
I know, it sucks because it came down to that
play and then you didn't even get a shot off,
and so you just got to be a little bit
quicker with your with your plan there, Caitlin, But I
thought that was the right no call in that moment.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
There was another number from that that piece done by
Indiana University Columbus. The Fever last year were reported to
be worth ninety million dollars as a franchise. This year,
the Fever would be worth three hundred and forty million dollars,
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so almost yeah, four times as much as Wow, crazy.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Did you see what the artic didn't? I think they
outdrew the Pacers last last year or something. They did
some kind of a comparison work.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
You're right about that.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Per game attendance. I think the outdrew of the Pacers,
like I think the next couple of weeks, I think
will offer up a perfect contrast for those that still
are clinging to the whole. You know, women's basketball is
on the rise and it's just popular, and this is
more than a moment. I think it might convince those
people that are still kind of stuck in that if
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the contrast is offered up, that nobody pays attention to
that league over the next couple of weeks. I think
that that'll offer something up. I'm kind of looking forward
to seeing if we some people change their minds.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
A little bit. I think we know. I mean, we know.
Sports Media Watch, which was quoted in this article, said
that of the twenty four highest rated WNBA games, twenty
one featured Kitlyn Clark. It's like, we know, the numbers
are not going to be as good. It's just now
going to be another information point or a bullet point
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or a card to play for those that are trying
to convince others that this is a Caitlyn Clark driven league,
which now it is. It absolutely is the NBA despite
the great work of Magic Johnson and Larry Bird and
Bill Russell and everybody that came before. In the nineteen nineties,
it was a Michael Jordan driven league. Absolutely, Like that's
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and that's just.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
The fact of the master still is.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
And I think I think your point, Yeah, you're not
wrong about that. I think your point as well. Of
like that there becomes there becomes a level of popularity
as well when people do hate watch. Now, there may
be other reasons for the person to not want to
watch Caitlyn Clark, but if it comes at a peer
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basketball level, like I just got sick of the Bulls
always winning mm hmm. I like the Trailblazers when I
was young as well. They beat him in nineteen ninety two.
I was annoyed Blazers should have won Game six. They
had like an eighteen point lead at the end of
the third quarter. Bulls come back and close out the
series and win the title. There's no way I was
going to be a Bulls fan. And they were so
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much better than the Bucks as well, Like those are
the things that you remember as a kid. But I
didn't hate watch Michael Jordan except for because they were
so good. And I think that that's going to be
a level that Caitlin Clark will get to as well.
We'll see if the Fever get to that point as
an organization for her to grow. But these numbers are staggering.
When you say billions of dollars, or if you say
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that a franchise was ninety million and now it's three
hundred and forty million, I'm sorry. There's just no argument
otherwise on a how important she is in a year?
Speaker 3 (16:23):
In a year, can I propose something and I think
a lot of people will be accepting of this and
it won't piss anybody off at all. Okay, I think
because the numbers that Dan just laid out in this
segment could if we proposed today on the Coveno and
Rich Show that Caitlin Clark be the WNBA logo, she
should be.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
She should be the logo.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
But I think it's way too soon to do that,
way too soon.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
She should not be the logo. No, she shouldn't. West
the best player in the NBA and NBA history year,
the most popular. No, but he was. He was as
signed from the asked. And so I don't know who
the WNBA logo is right now.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
It's not helping your argument.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
No.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
So, but if it's a current player, it's really gonna
screw me over. But if you were to take a
player from the past, it's a way to honor the
league in that way. So I'd be good for it.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
I'm curious.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Yeah, that would be too much. No single player, it's
just a silhouette of a woman.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
It is just so silowet.
Speaker 7 (17:23):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Maybe it was Manzi hitting seven threes in our high
school games. That was it. Absolutely, Absolutely, she's Monzi Blagos.
I'm Dan Bayer. Caitlin Clark making it rain in the
wallets of those associated the NBA again. You WNBA could
be a billion dollar scenario when it comes to the
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league for what she's brought to it, But just not
for the next two weeks. Hit Manzy up at Monzie Bolognos.
You could find me at dan Byer on Fox. By
the way, I still had somebody tweet me a year
later when the Fever TV ratings out did the Mets
Yankees and it was a graphic of Aaron Judge. Again,
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that game was on ESPN, the Yankees and Mets, and
the Caitlin Clark game was on ABC, so they're going
to get a different audience. But somebody quote tweeted me
with me saying like, hey man, check it out Caitlyn Clarkark. Okay,
I get it. I lost the battle. I lost that day. Yeah,
I was. I was out numbered four to one in popularity.
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And by the way, the odd Couple even talked about
it like a week ago. We were on it last year.
Speaker 7 (18:31):
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Speaker 1 (19:02):
So shoey Otani is homeward again. Steve Desagre will give
us details, but now number nineteen on the season, but
not the most talked about home run of this weekend.
Not the most talked about home run of this weekend.
The most talked about home run of this weekend happened
Sunday in Pittsburgh between the Brewers and Pirates. The most
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talked about home run was hit by O'Neil Cruse. And
I don't even know if we have the highlight for it. No,
I know the TV broadcast had the numbers because it
was up right away. One twenty two point nine exit
velocity off the bat of O'Neal Cruse. It was annihilated
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the pitch and in fact the fastest, the highest exit
velocity of any ball that we've seen hit in the
ten year service of stat Cast tracking exit velocity. No
one has hit a ball faster than what O'Neill Cruise
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hit on Sunday against the Milwaukee Brewers.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
I mean, that sounds really cool.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Oh it doesn't it. It sounds twenty two point nine
miles per hour.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
Like in theory, that sounds amazing, But I just like
I can't envision what that means in comparison to another
average speedball.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
That's a home run. I just I need to see
him side by side.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
What if I told you it was gian Carlos Stanton esque,
because this is a category that Stanton I don't want
to say dominates.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
But wait, he's familiar with it. That is, hits tend
to take off like that. There is something about his hits.
And I know what you mean by that, because it
does have like a immediately fast velocity off the bat.
Like I know what that means.
Speaker 7 (21:01):
The hardest hit ball of the stat Cast era, Ladies
and gentlemen, Goodbye four hundred, goodbye seven fifty five, Hello
one twenty.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Two point nine. I joke about to get off my
lawn stuff. But this is a sport in Major League
Baseball that its foundation has been numbers, the numbers that
you know fifty six, you know fifty six. It's Joe
DiMaggio's hitting streak. I mentioned seven fifty five. That's what
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Hank Aaron finished with in the home run total. We
knew sixty one, right, Roger Marris. These are all numbers
that we've grown up with. Four hundred, that magical number
of a batting average that Ted Williams had in the
nineteen forties. These are all numbers that we remember, and
players of this of my generation growing up, all chased
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those numbers. I don't know if I am get off
my lawn guy, but I sure feel like it when
I'm seeing us write articles about exit velocity, and I
am actually I feel like in a way. I know
I'm not hip to it, but I understand it, and
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I actually think it's more understandable than a lot of
other numbers in Major League Baseball that are more statin
data driven. But I find this, I find this at
bat so interesting because it's the Pirates. Ye, they're not
a great team, but this is something that O'Neil Cruz
is known for, and when you have his name, it
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is up there with other greats in baseball. Over the
last ten years in crushing the baseball, So does this
develop him into a superstar? Does this is this number
now going to translate to a generation that's younger than
me and you even younger than that generation, And say,
guess what exit velocity now is one of our our
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big numbers that we follow. We want to know when
guys crush the baseball. By saying that, it's not that
I'm not impressed by it, but talking about single season
home runs or three or four home runs in a game,
to me is more interesting than exit velocity. But I'm
also almost fifty years old.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
I'm with you. I guess I'm also saying, get off
my lawn. It's not that we are not impressed, but
you telling me like he hit a.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Ball, what was the number, one hundred and twenty two
point nine miles per hour?
Speaker 6 (23:32):
Instead of he hit the ball really bleeping far, they
mean the same exact thing, really bleeping fast, same exact
thing like that number.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
It means nothing to me, Like it's in theory. It
sounds really cool, but.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
Then I can quickly move on from it. Unfortunately, but yeah,
like he's done this before.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
We I feel like I've said this, Oh, you hit
the hardest.
Speaker 6 (23:54):
Ball this season according to you know the numbers, but
it means nothing aside from oh, that sounds cool, that
sounds awesome.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Jason Stewart, are you with me and Monsey on this? Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (24:09):
I'm with you guys and that and I've been following
this game a lot longer than you guys, because I'm
way older than you. I don't there's nothing for me
to like tangibly see yes, that's that's any more impressive
than the other. And just to just to kind of
see if I was wrong, I just googled, like the
top velo since it's started, and all those great power
hitters are the top Velo guys. It's not there are
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no outliers like whoa, this little pinshake, this little pinshitter
that we've never heard of is in there. It's like,
I guess it just confirms these guys are real athletic dudes.
And when you hit it on the barrel against one
hundred miles out pitch, it's going to go fast.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
And then you throw in the launch angle and I
guess you get the distance. But that stuff doesn't really
interest me.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
When you look at like O'Neil Cruz, though I wouldn't
put him in the same category of John Carlos Stanton
if his home run untraveled four hundred and ninety two
feet yesterday, which I don't even know if we ever
got a distance on how far the home run traveled,
which I think is another interesting point about it that
we're so concerned about the exit velocity than what would
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be of just looking at recent number. C J. Crohn
hit one that was five hundred and four feet.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
I know that that is a long way. Yeah, like
that is, and that's what appeals to me. But I
just wonder, like with baseball now and his baseball getting
the resurgent. Steve de Seger earlier in the show, We're
Gonna go to Stephen just a little bit, was talking
about on all the great things that happened in baseball
over the weekend. Maybe a great thing in baseball isn't
an eight RBI night because RBIs are more dependent on
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guys getting on base than you actually doing your job.
I don't know if that's the case, but I know
back in the day, eight RBIs would be amazing. RBI
however you want to say, it doesn't matter It's just
the fact that there are different stats that I think
appeal to different generations. And I don't know if the
younger generation now is like, let's do this exit velocity
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train and if one twenty two point nine is now
going to be the threshold in the mark that everybody
shoots for.
Speaker 6 (26:07):
I love that you said distance of home runs because
I think that does resonate with me more than the
exit velocity of a home run.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
How far did it land? Now you tell me over
five hundred feet? I'm like, oh, that was great.
Speaker 6 (26:19):
You know, the furthest home run at Dodger Stadium was
over five hundred feet by Willie Stargel, And so I
don't I think it was like five oh seven.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
But anyone like you hear that number and that resonates exit.
Speaker 6 (26:28):
I already forgot the number, Yesterdairs, I already forgot it yesterday.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
This was four hundred and thirty two feet. Okay, but
that's a subtext. But I think Dan's point here is
interesting to me because I do think that the O'Neill,
Cruz and Elie de la Cruz. I think they are
considered among baseball, among team builders up in the level
with Stanton and Judge. I think they are so so
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maybe if something like this puts them on your radar
as being kind of one of those power hitters, maybe
it's doing its job.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
In one and forty six games last year, O'Neil Cruz
hit twenty one home runs.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
I was just about to say, so.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Like, that's the point of where it's like it's and
that's fine, way that he's not a masher at a basher,
but it's also a completely different game. Steve de Sega
is at the news desk, not going for an update,
but did you want to jump in and we'll.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Add on the show. Hey Otani home run tonight for
the Dodgers. This was on the first pitch of the game.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
If it broke the record a day later, I'm going
to be so mad.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
No, and this point, this points it out. His his
was one hundred and fifteen miles an hour off the
bat tonight, okay to begin the game. Notable though, because
this is the twenty sixth homer he's had in the
last five years to go at least one fifteen off
the bat, which is the most in the majors, and
the one fifteen we're talking about is nowhere near the
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rocket off the cruise bat yesterday.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Were you impressed by O'Neil Cruz.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Yes, And it's not the first time he's hit it
so solidly as a line drive and it's going deep
and he's standing and admiring.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Yeah, he had another one that was like, well, I
think he may have broken his own record, not for
home runs. That was a different record that he broke,
but I think he had a higat exit velocity on
a hit that wasn't a home run a couple of
years ago, in twenty twenty two. But again, me just
saying that feels like it's a word jumble in my head.
When I knew Joe DiMaggio had a fifty six game
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hit streak, I knew Roger Maris hit sixty one home runs.
I knew Ted Williams hit four hundred and and that's
the like, that's the varying level of this. There are
so many new numbers, and I think it's good for baseball.
I wonder if the old numbers actually ended up being
a hindrance for a while. Was baseball falling off now
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that those records were broken, Now that sixty one isn't
the record, anymore. And people We've talked about this a lot,
but I don't know how many people will even remember
seven three, you know, for Arry Bonds and or considerate. Yes, yeah, correct, Yeah,
it's just kind of like all right, whatever.
Speaker 6 (29:08):
Yeah, because baseball is all numbers. It's like different than
any other sport. It's all numbers. So which ones stand
out to you?
Speaker 5 (29:15):
Like War? I don't even care about War. I don't
what what.
Speaker 6 (29:21):
What not, don't care about that number. And so there's
just so many numbers. And it's true, some hold a
lot more weight than others.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Well, yesterday it is a good example.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
You talked earlier in the show about Trek schouobl with
the complete game and under one hundred pitches and through
the two hitter, his last pitch was a strikeout at
one hundred two miles an hour. That resonates with me
more than the exit velocity off the bed because we've
been hearing pitchers and miles per hour longer.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Yeah, that's an easier one to relate to as opposed
to digest it better to war because it's it's speed.
I think it's difficult. Maybe it's not difficult. I think
it's trickier when O'Neil Cruz has an exit velocity and
it doesn't go five hundred and four feet like his
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went out of the ballpark. But there was a chance
that it was so much of a line drive that
it just hits the fence and drops down and is
a double.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Of course, it went through the fan in row eight
in right shield.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Steve de Sager is at the news desk. It's a
perfect line to to end with. Uh, maybe that's why
they didn't show it on TV. Yeah, couldn't get that replay.
You know, it's like those football injuries. They just we
saw it during the break and we're not going to
show it to you, and then Doug Gottlieb would send
it to everybody. Great hanging out with you in the
(30:45):
daylight for once, it's a little different. He is Steve
de Sager. I'm Dan Byer. That's Mancy Belanos. We are
in four, Cavino and Rich here on Fox Sports Radio.
Jason Stewart and Chris Purveett hanging out as well. The
White Sox have been playing better baseball. It just came
off of a series win against the Rangers. This past weekend.
The Rockies seemed to be in a class of their own,
(31:06):
and things have maybe caught up with the A's a
bit as they've fallen on hard times. But the White
Sox are definitely one of the havenots in baseball. But
credit to them, they've been playing better baseball and as
Steve said, have won nothing. Lead on the Mets right
now in the eighth inning.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
It's the eighth inning. We'll see.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
And you mentioned the Brewers beat the Red Sox earlier
today he did. I saw a Brewer's Red Sox game.
It was the second game ever played at Miller Park.
It did not count because it was one of those
exhibitions between spring training and the start of the season,
but also with a new stadium, you want to play
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games so you get all the kinks out before the
opening day and opening of a new park. And the
Brewers played the Red Sox. Gosh, this is this would
have been like two thousand and two, two thousand and
three around that time. Yeah, it's four somewhere in that
picture I've already forgot. But yes, it was a Brewer's
(32:02):
Red Sox game. So seeing the highlights today reminded me
of being there on a cold March day, but it
was indoor baseball, which was so crazy because wow, this
place actually has a roof, just you don't have that
in LA.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
But it was different. Yea, I have not seen.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
A Have you been in an indoor.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
Door baseball a stadium?
Speaker 1 (32:21):
No, I have not, have you Jason Stewart indoor not once?
Speaker 3 (32:25):
On.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
It is different. It is very unique.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
I bet, I bet. Where would we have to go? Houston?
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Yeah, you could go to Houston, You could go to Seattle, Zona, Texas, Arizona, Milwaukee.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
You would think it wouldn't be but I guess because
it's so hot.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
It can be so hot. Yeah, got it.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
It takes six hours to get there.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
It's actually it's actually why the Rangers they built the
News They had their old ballpark at Arlington. But one
of the reasons it would just get so hot. It
just gets so hot in the summertime. They would play
some Sunday games at night because they're just like, well,
why are we he wants to come to a ball
park when it's one o eight and sweltering.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
It's rough.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
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it up now at the age when years kind of
blend in, you know, like it's in the ballpark of
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where you are. But it was two thousand and one
that uh Miller Park opened in Milwaukee and saw that
Brewers and Red Sox game. Jason Stewart is our executive
producer today, and thanks to Steve de Sager, who's going
to go and enjoy the rest of his Memorial Day weekend.
As we brought Steve out from the darkness into the
daylight to hang out with us this afternoon. Maybe he'll
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sit back tonight and watch the Oklahoma City Thunder take
on the Minnesota Timberwolves. Monsey after tonight. Are we at
three or are we at two? Two in the Western
Conference Finals. I know what your heart, no, I know
what your head is saying.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
My head is saying that Timberwolves. I can't trust correct. Yeah,
So my head is saying, but my heart is not saying.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
That you want a series.
Speaker 6 (34:19):
I do want a series, and my heart is saying
that Anthony Edwards is gonna not let this one slip
at home.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
That's what my heart wants to say, but that's not
what my head says.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
I we all expect it to be a much closer
game than the forty point affair that we had on
Saturday night. In fact, the Oklahoma City Thunder entering Game
three or a three and a half point favorite? Were
they yesterday? When I did the show with Mike Carmen,
we checked on the line entering tonight it was Oklahoma
City three and a half I look right now, Oklahoma
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City three and a half point favorite. So it stayed
at that point. But the Thunder a favorite tonight. So
we expect a much better performance from Oklahoma City. I
just monci. I think people are underestimating Minnesota and even
the pieces that they have, and I get the Thunder
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are very good. They have SGA, they have Jalen Williams,
chet Holmgren's been great for them.
Speaker 5 (35:19):
They got are on a different team.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Alex Caruso's contributions magnificent. But I feel when Minnesota gets
everybody together and playing in that way where Rudy Gobert
not saying he's gonna pickpocket, shake Gilgess Alexander, but when
he's active and Julius Randall can score down low, and
Anthony Edwards plays the way that he does. Mike Conley
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gives you good veteran minutes at the point guard position,
Dante DiVincenzo hits some threes, Jade McDaniels dz you up.
They have a lot of pieces as well, and I
don't think that we look at them as nearly as
much of a threat because of their playoff run. Maybe
people aren't trusting Anthony Edwards. Maybe they're just thinking back
to last year. But to I think Minnesota gets it
done again and makes for a huge Game five in
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Oklahoma City coming up on Wednesday.
Speaker 5 (36:07):
It's hard.
Speaker 6 (36:08):
It's hard to under it to not underestimate the Timberwolves
because everyone you just said it's been in an inconsistent play.
It's not just Anthony Edwards, but Dante DiVincenzo. There was
a game he couldn't score. He couldn't score of his
life depended on it. So it's just the inconsistencies are
across the roster. When it comes to the Thunder, the
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consistency is across the roster.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Maybe Dante Devincenzo is still sad from leaving his Nova boys.
Speaker 5 (36:36):
See Oh yeah, absolutely, and that.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
That commercial and that's the reasons.
Speaker 6 (36:41):
Yeah, I you're right though the Timberwolves can easily win
this game.
Speaker 5 (36:46):
It is it is not. It is not a shoe
win for the Thunder at all.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Win.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
So what's it gonna be? Two two or three one?
After tonight?
Speaker 5 (36:55):
Let's go with my heart because I like to be
not logical in life. To to two.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
You're with me in Minnesota, and then who knows what's
going to happen in the next three games?
Speaker 7 (37:07):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (37:07):
Absolutely, all right, there you have.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
It the picture, both of us. We're on the side
of Minnesota. Thanks so much for hanging out with us
on this Memorial Day weekend. Again, please be safe, yep,
if you're traveling and take a moment to think of
those that gave the ultimate sacrifice, that lost their lives
fighting for all of us. Be safe on this Memorial Day.
Thanks to Chris Jason and you Monzi.
Speaker 5 (37:26):
It's goina be no one rich on Fox, all right,
back Asha Dan
Hey, thanks for listening to the Cadino and Rich Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
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Speaker 4 (00:16):
It's like searching FSR.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
And it's billion with a B. Welcome in. It's a
Monday here on Fox Sports Radio. We'll tell you what
that all means.
Speaker 5 (00:26):
I don't even know what it means.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
On Airbnb, although yesterday I went to a store purchased something.
They said, would you like X amount off if you
sign up for our rewards program?
Speaker 5 (00:39):
Love that?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Sure, it's it's not a credit card thing. It's just
you're gonna get a bunch of emails from us. You
know what I can deal with that?
Speaker 5 (00:46):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
My name, my last name was spelled you ready for
this v e e y e r V. Yes. I
have no idea why veer I get it buyer b
e y e R a little different. But when I
spelled it to him, I said, how do you spell it?
B e y e r? He somehow got ve e
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y e R. Then I had to do the B
as in boy and wait, there's there's not two e's.
Well there's two e's, but they're just not back to back.
But it's literally me talking to you driving, not on
the phone. Whoever's writing Shotgun with you could not understand
what you were saying. I get it if you're ordering
(01:30):
Starbucks or you're getting a burger in, you're in the
drive through, and it doesn't there's a connection issue. But
when I'm standing right there and I tell you what
it is, I just expected a little bit more.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
No, I don't think you're asking for much. If you're
spelling it out.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I get if they would say Manzi, if they spelled
it m O N s E. Y. Oh, it's not.
It doesn't make your day, but you can like understand it.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
Sure, No, this straight up he chose to not spell
your name. Yeah, he's he heard you. He's like, no,
we're gonna spot like this like.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Be calling you Monty. Right, Yeah, You're like, it's mansei
m O NTI you are Monty. That's the equivalent of
whatever this guy heard. But we got it all squared away.
Jason Stewart is here, Chris perffets here, Steve de Seger
is at the news desk. He'll give us all the
latest news of the day. And if you've heard Steve,
he's told you Caitlin Clark is going to be out
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two weeks because of a quad strain for the Indiana fever.
Now there's a lot to unpack here because there was
a recent report from Caitlin Clark. And the reason I
used the b for billions was a professor of finance,
an associate professor of finance at Indiana University Columbus, did
(02:50):
a study that said Caitlin Clark generated twenty six point
five percent of the WNBA's economic activity last year, and
as part of this, in speaking with NBC News, said
that Caitlin Clark, with modest inflation, could make eight hundred
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and seventy five million dollars for the league in twenty
twenty five, and as time goes on, could be worth
a billion dollars to the association, the w as they
call it. That is the amount of value that Caitlin
Clark cast to the WNBA.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
I'm actually surprised it was twenty would you say twenty
four six and a half. I'm surprised it was that low.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
I thought it would have been a little bit higher,
if I'm being completely.
Speaker 6 (03:36):
Honest, because the effect the what she is doing is
is there. It's there. You don't have to search hard
for it. You can see the lines till this day
for anyone trying to watch a Fever game, their first
home game, there was a line hours before tip off
for merchandise like it's it's there. So I'm actually surprised
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it's a little bit low.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
I think it's when you look at the expansion of
the league. They've added the team at Golden State, that's helped,
but when they're adding a team in Portland as well.
I think Cleveland was in the in the running for
a franchise. In fact, so many cities were in the running.
Toronto's going to end up getting a team, but you
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had multiple markets. Nashville applied for a WNBA team. I mean,
this was This is all of recent and so you
can see that expansion. There's going to be a new
collective bargaining agreement that's going to be set out, which
is why the players union opted out. This was part
of the piece as well. The players Union decided that
(04:42):
they can get a better deal because of Caitlin Clark,
and it does really mute anybody who tries to diminish
her value to the league when you actually have these
numbers and really, manci more importantly, these dollar signs, like
because that's that's what proves everything. You can take TV
ratings and figuring them out in whatever way you want,
(05:05):
But if Kaitlyn Clark is making the WNBA a billion
dollar business, I don't know how you can have any
argument otherwise about her value.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
You can't have any other argument, and anybody that wants
to you just can't take them seriously. Because even though
there's a ton of people who dislike Kaitlyn Clark, I
think she's one of those rare athletes that people may
hate watch.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Just like I used to watch the Lakers.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
I would hate watch them, not the same anymore because
they're just not as good I know with Lebron, But
you know what I'm talking about, like back in the day,
and I do feel like a lot of people hate
watch Kaitlyn Clark and her being injured for two weeks
is going to be a big hit, Like people are
not going to tune into these.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Games, I'll be honest, and I'm want to bring in
Jason Stewart because I know he's been watching Caitlyn Clark
games as much as he can, and said this much
about this season. I saw Caitlyn Clark play a little
bit in the opening game against the Sky It was
opposite golf, so I was watching that, and then I
watched about the second half of their game against the Liberty.
(06:11):
I didn't watch any of the games during the week
that they played, so I wasn't locked in and in tune.
At that point, You're saying people are going to drop
off for the two weeks, and I agree, Jason. Have
you been watching even midweek games with a fever?
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Not as much midweek? I tuned in and I followed
the box score and whatnot. But I definitely caught those
two Saturday games. And what was it at the end
of this past game, the end of the first half
when she hit the bus.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Remiver like vintage Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
That's what everybody's paying for. That's what everyone's showing up for.
That's what I showed up for. I want to give
credit to Dan for saying something in the week in
the wake of that Angel Reeve Caitlyn Clark, you know,
altercation if you want to call it. Dan said something
very smart, and it makes sense Angel Rees went after
Katelyn Clark feeling empowered because I think coming off of
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last season there was this big anti Caitlin Clark thing
within the league, and then when it didn't happen, when
the whole league didn't get behind Angel Rees, and she
was like the political wins were not behind her, and
then that whole allegation and the investigation that what happened
to the investigation, who knows, But I think that that
was a smart thing for Dan to say. It's like
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the reaction Angel wasn't getting the reaction she thought she
would get when she went after her physically, And I
think that speaks for what the messaging is to the
players and the coaches and the media. This is a
golden goose. Let's be more positive about her. Let's be
let's talk more positive about her. That would be Angel
Reaves just saying no comment to questions about her. But
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I think that that's a great example of not only
does the league know that she's the golden Goose, but
I think they're going to go above and beyond to
try to protect her.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
About that time.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
It's about damn time, because they didn't do that last year,
they weren't prepared for her last year.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
The opposite was opposite. Yeah, I still think that there
are points where maybe people will toggle the line, but
I felt Angel Reese and not to bring up the
foul again. And to Jason's point was that Angel Reese
was waiting for Caitlin Clark to do something so she would.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
Have an excuse for metually.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
But I also said, to the point, now, when we
look at these numbers of what Caitlin Clark means to
the league, I think the WNBA is guilty of keeping
this rivalry going. And it's why it was the opening game.
You can't tell me that this game this past weekend
against the New York Liberty was not as good as
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the opener against the Sky. And I actually made this
exact matchup a point because the Liberty were the defending champions.
Why wouldn't you have your biggest star play against the
defending champions in your opening game. That would be mega draw,
huge draw. Instead, what they did is they went back
(09:04):
to the wall where the Aces faced the Liberty. Now,
last year the WNBA finals were the Liberty against the Lynx,
not the Aces. But they wanted some sort of old
rivalry and then put Caitlan Clark against Angel Rees again,
and now with this two week injury, they're gonna face
the Sky. I get it, They're gonna play a bunch.
It's only a forty game schedule, but it's gonna be
(09:26):
a nationally televised game. Why because you think that there's
this rivalry, but Caitlin Clark is so much bigger and
so much more important not only to her team but
the league in the entirety of women's basketball, and I
think the WNBA needs to separate it. They shouldn't feed
into the Sky versus Fever. The Fever beat him by
(09:48):
thirty some odd points. You mentioned earlier. The Sky haven't
won a game this season, Like, there's no reason to
feed into that rivalry when one when your biggest piece
could be caught up in it and it's not even
her fault now maybe even lucky for her, she's going
to miss these two games, but for the WNBA over
these next two weeks and what such a limited schedule
is going to hurt the league. But that's also why
(10:09):
I think that there's so much value to this. While
Jason was following the games and not watching them, you
watched all of them last year, you're taking time out
to watch. I watched on a Saturday. There weren't as
many games going on and things going on. The NBA
was later on at night, hockey was at night. But
when you're trying to figure out what to watch, that
game was on Network TV. I tuned in and kept
(10:32):
it there. I could have watched golf on the Golf
channel or gone anywhere else, but I put it on
there and I kept it there. Also, because we're only
going to get three months of her YEP in three
months of this season. So when we look at Caitlin
Clark even compared to like the NBA and why we
don't watch in the regular season, I think a forty
game schedule really plays into the value of the WNBA
(10:56):
and makes Caitlin Clark and that league more of a
must watch property when you only have an opportunity to
watch them forty times.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
Yeah, and they're say minimum of two weeks, what if
it's even more. I think Steve mentioned in his update
that she hadn't missed her entire really career yet for
any injury. So it's like, I'm sure they're going to
approach with caution but quad injuries, aren't they also a
little bit rough to get through, kind of like a
(11:25):
hamstring injury.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
Yeah, like they're a little bit harder to get to.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
The other side.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (11:28):
Yeah, So I hope it really is only two weeks,
but we are going to see an immediate dip in
viewership when it comes to the w NBA, and it's
like trickling up every single time, a little bit more
like you said you tuned in when.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
There was a golf on just to watch a little
bit of it. Since when is that a thing?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yeah, it was a good game, and it.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
Wasn't It was a really good game actually, And I.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Know that's you're either in or you're out. I don't
feel that way. I think there are a lot of
different levels to it. But when Caitlyn Clark was complaining
about the whistle at the end of the game that
she didn't get where the Liberty ended up winning, Yeah,
I said to myself, I wonder if that's ever going
to get old. Yeah, because we've seen when she was
at Iowa her dad kind of telling her hate chill out,
chill out exactly, saying those exact words, calm down, don't
(12:12):
be talking to the officials don't be complaining as much,
and there was a lot of that on that last
call that she didn't get that shot off, and I
wanted to myself, all right, could this be something Since
we're sitting here having conversations about shake Gilgess Alexander and
him complaining or wanting plays reviewed and whatnot, could this
actually happen to Caitlin Clark. We're now not going to
know for the next two weeks because of the quadd inch,
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but it.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
Is a thing happening now because I saw videos of
people proving how I think the word that I saw
was maybe a brat, and how she does.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
Complain, and it was videos of her hitting a.
Speaker 6 (12:44):
Chair at IOWA, her yelling at a ref and like, yeah,
she's she's definitely emotional, and I don't blame her because
she wants to win. But that last play, I was like, hey, Len,
she got you, She got you clean from under She
took that ball from under you.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Is not a foul at least I did. I thought
that was the right call.
Speaker 6 (13:02):
I know, it sucks because it came down to that
play and then you didn't even get a shot off,
and so you just got to be a little bit
quicker with your with your plan there, Caitlin, But I
thought that was the right no call in that moment.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
There was another number from that that piece done by
Indiana University Columbus. The Fever last year were reported to
be worth ninety million dollars as a franchise. This year,
the Fever would be worth three hundred and forty million dollars,
(13:36):
so almost yeah, four times as much as Wow, crazy.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Did you see what the artic didn't? I think they
outdrew the Pacers last last year or something. They did
some kind of a comparison work.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
You're right about that.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Per game attendance. I think the outdrew of the Pacers,
like I think the next couple of weeks, I think
will offer up a perfect contrast for those that still
are clinging to the whole. You know, women's basketball is
on the rise and it's just popular, and this is
more than a moment. I think it might convince those
people that are still kind of stuck in that if
(14:09):
the contrast is offered up, that nobody pays attention to
that league over the next couple of weeks. I think
that that'll offer something up. I'm kind of looking forward
to seeing if we some people change their minds.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
A little bit. I think we know. I mean, we know.
Sports Media Watch, which was quoted in this article, said
that of the twenty four highest rated WNBA games, twenty
one featured Kitlyn Clark. It's like, we know, the numbers
are not going to be as good. It's just now
going to be another information point or a bullet point
(14:41):
or a card to play for those that are trying
to convince others that this is a Caitlyn Clark driven league,
which now it is. It absolutely is the NBA despite
the great work of Magic Johnson and Larry Bird and
Bill Russell and everybody that came before. In the nineteen nineties,
it was a Michael Jordan driven league. Absolutely, Like that's
(15:03):
and that's just.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
The fact of the master still is.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
And I think I think your point, Yeah, you're not
wrong about that. I think your point as well. Of
like that there becomes there becomes a level of popularity
as well when people do hate watch. Now, there may
be other reasons for the person to not want to
watch Caitlyn Clark, but if it comes at a peer
(15:29):
basketball level, like I just got sick of the Bulls
always winning mm hmm. I like the Trailblazers when I
was young as well. They beat him in nineteen ninety two.
I was annoyed Blazers should have won Game six. They
had like an eighteen point lead at the end of
the third quarter. Bulls come back and close out the
series and win the title. There's no way I was
going to be a Bulls fan. And they were so
(15:53):
much better than the Bucks as well, Like those are
the things that you remember as a kid. But I
didn't hate watch Michael Jordan except for because they were
so good. And I think that that's going to be
a level that Caitlin Clark will get to as well.
We'll see if the Fever get to that point as
an organization for her to grow. But these numbers are staggering.
When you say billions of dollars, or if you say
(16:13):
that a franchise was ninety million and now it's three
hundred and forty million, I'm sorry. There's just no argument
otherwise on a how important she is in a year?
Speaker 3 (16:23):
In a year, can I propose something and I think
a lot of people will be accepting of this and
it won't piss anybody off at all. Okay, I think
because the numbers that Dan just laid out in this
segment could if we proposed today on the Coveno and
Rich Show that Caitlin Clark be the WNBA logo, she
should be.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
She should be the logo.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
But I think it's way too soon to do that,
way too soon.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
She should not be the logo. No, she shouldn't. West
the best player in the NBA and NBA history year,
the most popular. No, but he was. He was as
signed from the asked. And so I don't know who
the WNBA logo is right now.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
It's not helping your argument.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
No.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
So, but if it's a current player, it's really gonna
screw me over. But if you were to take a
player from the past, it's a way to honor the
league in that way. So I'd be good for it.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
I'm curious.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Yeah, that would be too much. No single player, it's
just a silhouette of a woman.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
It is just so silowet.
Speaker 7 (17:23):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Maybe it was Manzi hitting seven threes in our high
school games. That was it. Absolutely, Absolutely, she's Monzi Blagos.
I'm Dan Bayer. Caitlin Clark making it rain in the
wallets of those associated the NBA again. You WNBA could
be a billion dollar scenario when it comes to the
(17:45):
league for what she's brought to it, But just not
for the next two weeks. Hit Manzy up at Monzie Bolognos.
You could find me at dan Byer on Fox. By
the way, I still had somebody tweet me a year
later when the Fever TV ratings out did the Mets
Yankees and it was a graphic of Aaron Judge. Again,
(18:05):
that game was on ESPN, the Yankees and Mets, and
the Caitlin Clark game was on ABC, so they're going
to get a different audience. But somebody quote tweeted me
with me saying like, hey man, check it out Caitlyn Clarkark. Okay,
I get it. I lost the battle. I lost that day. Yeah,
I was. I was out numbered four to one in popularity.
(18:26):
And by the way, the odd Couple even talked about
it like a week ago. We were on it last year.
Speaker 7 (18:31):
Yep.
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Speaker 1 (19:02):
So shoey Otani is homeward again. Steve Desagre will give
us details, but now number nineteen on the season, but
not the most talked about home run of this weekend.
Not the most talked about home run of this weekend.
The most talked about home run of this weekend happened
Sunday in Pittsburgh between the Brewers and Pirates. The most
(19:27):
talked about home run was hit by O'Neil Cruse. And
I don't even know if we have the highlight for it. No,
I know the TV broadcast had the numbers because it
was up right away. One twenty two point nine exit
velocity off the bat of O'Neal Cruse. It was annihilated
(19:50):
the pitch and in fact the fastest, the highest exit
velocity of any ball that we've seen hit in the
ten year service of stat Cast tracking exit velocity. No
one has hit a ball faster than what O'Neill Cruise
(20:11):
hit on Sunday against the Milwaukee Brewers.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
I mean, that sounds really cool.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Oh it doesn't it. It sounds twenty two point nine
miles per hour.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
Like in theory, that sounds amazing, But I just like
I can't envision what that means in comparison to another
average speedball.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
That's a home run. I just I need to see
him side by side.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
What if I told you it was gian Carlos Stanton esque,
because this is a category that Stanton I don't want
to say dominates.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
But wait, he's familiar with it. That is, hits tend
to take off like that. There is something about his hits.
And I know what you mean by that, because it
does have like a immediately fast velocity off the bat.
Like I know what that means.
Speaker 7 (21:01):
The hardest hit ball of the stat Cast era, Ladies
and gentlemen, Goodbye four hundred, goodbye seven fifty five, Hello
one twenty.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Two point nine. I joke about to get off my
lawn stuff. But this is a sport in Major League
Baseball that its foundation has been numbers, the numbers that
you know fifty six, you know fifty six. It's Joe
DiMaggio's hitting streak. I mentioned seven fifty five. That's what
(21:35):
Hank Aaron finished with in the home run total. We
knew sixty one, right, Roger Marris. These are all numbers
that we've grown up with. Four hundred, that magical number
of a batting average that Ted Williams had in the
nineteen forties. These are all numbers that we remember, and
players of this of my generation growing up, all chased
(21:59):
those numbers. I don't know if I am get off
my lawn guy, but I sure feel like it when
I'm seeing us write articles about exit velocity, and I
am actually I feel like in a way. I know
I'm not hip to it, but I understand it, and
(22:19):
I actually think it's more understandable than a lot of
other numbers in Major League Baseball that are more statin
data driven. But I find this, I find this at
bat so interesting because it's the Pirates. Ye, they're not
a great team, but this is something that O'Neil Cruz
is known for, and when you have his name, it
(22:39):
is up there with other greats in baseball. Over the
last ten years in crushing the baseball, So does this
develop him into a superstar? Does this is this number
now going to translate to a generation that's younger than
me and you even younger than that generation, And say,
guess what exit velocity now is one of our our
(23:03):
big numbers that we follow. We want to know when
guys crush the baseball. By saying that, it's not that
I'm not impressed by it, but talking about single season
home runs or three or four home runs in a game,
to me is more interesting than exit velocity. But I'm
also almost fifty years old.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
I'm with you. I guess I'm also saying, get off
my lawn. It's not that we are not impressed, but
you telling me like he hit a.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Ball, what was the number, one hundred and twenty two
point nine miles per hour?
Speaker 6 (23:32):
Instead of he hit the ball really bleeping far, they
mean the same exact thing, really bleeping fast, same exact
thing like that number.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
It means nothing to me, Like it's in theory. It
sounds really cool, but.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
Then I can quickly move on from it. Unfortunately, but yeah,
like he's done this before.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
We I feel like I've said this, Oh, you hit
the hardest.
Speaker 6 (23:54):
Ball this season according to you know the numbers, but
it means nothing aside from oh, that sounds cool, that
sounds awesome.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Jason Stewart, are you with me and Monsey on this? Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (24:09):
I'm with you guys and that and I've been following
this game a lot longer than you guys, because I'm
way older than you. I don't there's nothing for me
to like tangibly see yes, that's that's any more impressive
than the other. And just to just to kind of
see if I was wrong, I just googled, like the
top velo since it's started, and all those great power
hitters are the top Velo guys. It's not there are
(24:31):
no outliers like whoa, this little pinshake, this little pinshitter
that we've never heard of is in there. It's like,
I guess it just confirms these guys are real athletic dudes.
And when you hit it on the barrel against one
hundred miles out pitch, it's going to go fast.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
And then you throw in the launch angle and I
guess you get the distance. But that stuff doesn't really
interest me.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
When you look at like O'Neil Cruz, though I wouldn't
put him in the same category of John Carlos Stanton
if his home run untraveled four hundred and ninety two
feet yesterday, which I don't even know if we ever
got a distance on how far the home run traveled,
which I think is another interesting point about it that
we're so concerned about the exit velocity than what would
(25:13):
be of just looking at recent number. C J. Crohn
hit one that was five hundred and four feet.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
I know that that is a long way. Yeah, like
that is, and that's what appeals to me. But I
just wonder, like with baseball now and his baseball getting
the resurgent. Steve de Seger earlier in the show, We're
Gonna go to Stephen just a little bit, was talking
about on all the great things that happened in baseball
over the weekend. Maybe a great thing in baseball isn't
an eight RBI night because RBIs are more dependent on
(25:41):
guys getting on base than you actually doing your job.
I don't know if that's the case, but I know
back in the day, eight RBIs would be amazing. RBI
however you want to say, it doesn't matter It's just
the fact that there are different stats that I think
appeal to different generations. And I don't know if the
younger generation now is like, let's do this exit velocity
(26:01):
train and if one twenty two point nine is now
going to be the threshold in the mark that everybody
shoots for.
Speaker 6 (26:07):
I love that you said distance of home runs because
I think that does resonate with me more than the
exit velocity of a home run.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
How far did it land? Now you tell me over
five hundred feet? I'm like, oh, that was great.
Speaker 6 (26:19):
You know, the furthest home run at Dodger Stadium was
over five hundred feet by Willie Stargel, And so I
don't I think it was like five oh seven.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
But anyone like you hear that number and that resonates exit.
Speaker 6 (26:28):
I already forgot the number, Yesterdairs, I already forgot it yesterday.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
This was four hundred and thirty two feet. Okay, but
that's a subtext. But I think Dan's point here is
interesting to me because I do think that the O'Neill,
Cruz and Elie de la Cruz. I think they are
considered among baseball, among team builders up in the level
with Stanton and Judge. I think they are so so
(26:54):
maybe if something like this puts them on your radar
as being kind of one of those power hitters, maybe
it's doing its job.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
In one and forty six games last year, O'Neil Cruz
hit twenty one home runs.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
I was just about to say, so.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Like, that's the point of where it's like it's and
that's fine, way that he's not a masher at a basher,
but it's also a completely different game. Steve de Sega
is at the news desk, not going for an update,
but did you want to jump in and we'll.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Add on the show. Hey Otani home run tonight for
the Dodgers. This was on the first pitch of the game.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
If it broke the record a day later, I'm going
to be so mad.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
No, and this point, this points it out. His his
was one hundred and fifteen miles an hour off the
bat tonight, okay to begin the game. Notable though, because
this is the twenty sixth homer he's had in the
last five years to go at least one fifteen off
the bat, which is the most in the majors, and
the one fifteen we're talking about is nowhere near the
(27:50):
rocket off the cruise bat yesterday.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Were you impressed by O'Neil Cruz.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Yes, And it's not the first time he's hit it
so solidly as a line drive and it's going deep
and he's standing and admiring.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Yeah, he had another one that was like, well, I
think he may have broken his own record, not for
home runs. That was a different record that he broke,
but I think he had a higat exit velocity on
a hit that wasn't a home run a couple of
years ago, in twenty twenty two. But again, me just
saying that feels like it's a word jumble in my head.
When I knew Joe DiMaggio had a fifty six game
(28:27):
hit streak, I knew Roger Maris hit sixty one home runs.
I knew Ted Williams hit four hundred and and that's
the like, that's the varying level of this. There are
so many new numbers, and I think it's good for baseball.
I wonder if the old numbers actually ended up being
a hindrance for a while. Was baseball falling off now
(28:50):
that those records were broken, Now that sixty one isn't
the record, anymore. And people We've talked about this a lot,
but I don't know how many people will even remember
seven three, you know, for Arry Bonds and or considerate. Yes, yeah, correct, Yeah,
it's just kind of like all right, whatever.
Speaker 6 (29:08):
Yeah, because baseball is all numbers. It's like different than
any other sport. It's all numbers. So which ones stand
out to you?
Speaker 5 (29:15):
Like War? I don't even care about War. I don't
what what.
Speaker 6 (29:21):
What not, don't care about that number. And so there's
just so many numbers. And it's true, some hold a
lot more weight than others.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Well, yesterday it is a good example.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
You talked earlier in the show about Trek schouobl with
the complete game and under one hundred pitches and through
the two hitter, his last pitch was a strikeout at
one hundred two miles an hour. That resonates with me
more than the exit velocity off the bed because we've
been hearing pitchers and miles per hour longer.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Yeah, that's an easier one to relate to as opposed
to digest it better to war because it's it's speed.
I think it's difficult. Maybe it's not difficult. I think
it's trickier when O'Neil Cruz has an exit velocity and
it doesn't go five hundred and four feet like his
(30:13):
went out of the ballpark. But there was a chance
that it was so much of a line drive that
it just hits the fence and drops down and is
a double.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Of course, it went through the fan in row eight
in right shield.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Steve de Sager is at the news desk. It's a
perfect line to to end with. Uh, maybe that's why
they didn't show it on TV. Yeah, couldn't get that replay.
You know, it's like those football injuries. They just we
saw it during the break and we're not going to
show it to you, and then Doug Gottlieb would send
it to everybody. Great hanging out with you in the
(30:45):
daylight for once, it's a little different. He is Steve
de Sager. I'm Dan Byer. That's Mancy Belanos. We are
in four, Cavino and Rich here on Fox Sports Radio.
Jason Stewart and Chris Purveett hanging out as well. The
White Sox have been playing better baseball. It just came
off of a series win against the Rangers. This past weekend.
The Rockies seemed to be in a class of their own,
(31:06):
and things have maybe caught up with the A's a
bit as they've fallen on hard times. But the White
Sox are definitely one of the havenots in baseball. But
credit to them, they've been playing better baseball and as
Steve said, have won nothing. Lead on the Mets right
now in the eighth inning.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
It's the eighth inning. We'll see.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
And you mentioned the Brewers beat the Red Sox earlier
today he did. I saw a Brewer's Red Sox game.
It was the second game ever played at Miller Park.
It did not count because it was one of those
exhibitions between spring training and the start of the season,
but also with a new stadium, you want to play
(31:41):
games so you get all the kinks out before the
opening day and opening of a new park. And the
Brewers played the Red Sox. Gosh, this is this would
have been like two thousand and two, two thousand and
three around that time. Yeah, it's four somewhere in that
picture I've already forgot. But yes, it was a Brewer's
(32:02):
Red Sox game. So seeing the highlights today reminded me
of being there on a cold March day, but it
was indoor baseball, which was so crazy because wow, this
place actually has a roof, just you don't have that
in LA.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
But it was different. Yea, I have not seen.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
A Have you been in an indoor.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
Door baseball a stadium?
Speaker 1 (32:21):
No, I have not, have you Jason Stewart indoor not once?
Speaker 3 (32:25):
On.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
It is different. It is very unique.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
I bet, I bet. Where would we have to go? Houston?
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Yeah, you could go to Houston, You could go to Seattle, Zona, Texas, Arizona, Milwaukee.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
You would think it wouldn't be but I guess because
it's so hot.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
It can be so hot. Yeah, got it.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
It takes six hours to get there.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
It's actually it's actually why the Rangers they built the
News They had their old ballpark at Arlington. But one
of the reasons it would just get so hot. It
just gets so hot in the summertime. They would play
some Sunday games at night because they're just like, well,
why are we he wants to come to a ball
park when it's one o eight and sweltering.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
It's rough.
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Speaker 1 (33:12):
Kevino and Rich here on Fox Sports Radio. She's Monty Belano,
So I'm Dan Byer. Chris Perfet on the ones and twos?
What do we got here? Chris Pedro Pedro Pedro Martinez
was a part of that Red Sox team when they
played the Brewers in two thousand and one. I looked
it up now at the age when years kind of
blend in, you know, like it's in the ballpark of
(33:32):
where you are. But it was two thousand and one
that uh Miller Park opened in Milwaukee and saw that
Brewers and Red Sox game. Jason Stewart is our executive
producer today, and thanks to Steve de Sager, who's going
to go and enjoy the rest of his Memorial Day weekend.
As we brought Steve out from the darkness into the
daylight to hang out with us this afternoon. Maybe he'll
(33:53):
sit back tonight and watch the Oklahoma City Thunder take
on the Minnesota Timberwolves. Monsey after tonight. Are we at
three or are we at two? Two in the Western
Conference Finals. I know what your heart, no, I know
what your head is saying.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
My head is saying that Timberwolves. I can't trust correct. Yeah,
So my head is saying, but my heart is not saying.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
That you want a series.
Speaker 6 (34:19):
I do want a series, and my heart is saying
that Anthony Edwards is gonna not let this one slip
at home.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
That's what my heart wants to say, but that's not
what my head says.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
I we all expect it to be a much closer
game than the forty point affair that we had on
Saturday night. In fact, the Oklahoma City Thunder entering Game
three or a three and a half point favorite? Were
they yesterday? When I did the show with Mike Carmen,
we checked on the line entering tonight it was Oklahoma
City three and a half I look right now, Oklahoma
(34:53):
City three and a half point favorite. So it stayed
at that point. But the Thunder a favorite tonight. So
we expect a much better performance from Oklahoma City. I
just monci. I think people are underestimating Minnesota and even
the pieces that they have, and I get the Thunder
(35:13):
are very good. They have SGA, they have Jalen Williams,
chet Holmgren's been great for them.
Speaker 5 (35:19):
They got are on a different team.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Alex Caruso's contributions magnificent. But I feel when Minnesota gets
everybody together and playing in that way where Rudy Gobert
not saying he's gonna pickpocket, shake Gilgess Alexander, but when
he's active and Julius Randall can score down low, and
Anthony Edwards plays the way that he does. Mike Conley
(35:42):
gives you good veteran minutes at the point guard position,
Dante DiVincenzo hits some threes, Jade McDaniels dz you up.
They have a lot of pieces as well, and I
don't think that we look at them as nearly as
much of a threat because of their playoff run. Maybe
people aren't trusting Anthony Edwards. Maybe they're just thinking back
to last year. But to I think Minnesota gets it
done again and makes for a huge Game five in
(36:05):
Oklahoma City coming up on Wednesday.
Speaker 5 (36:07):
It's hard.
Speaker 6 (36:08):
It's hard to under it to not underestimate the Timberwolves
because everyone you just said it's been in an inconsistent play.
It's not just Anthony Edwards, but Dante DiVincenzo. There was
a game he couldn't score. He couldn't score of his
life depended on it. So it's just the inconsistencies are
across the roster. When it comes to the Thunder, the
(36:28):
consistency is across the roster.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Maybe Dante Devincenzo is still sad from leaving his Nova boys.
Speaker 5 (36:36):
See Oh yeah, absolutely, and that.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
That commercial and that's the reasons.
Speaker 6 (36:41):
Yeah, I you're right though the Timberwolves can easily win
this game.
Speaker 5 (36:46):
It is it is not. It is not a shoe
win for the Thunder at all.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Win.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
So what's it gonna be? Two two or three one?
After tonight?
Speaker 5 (36:55):
Let's go with my heart because I like to be
not logical in life. To to two.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
You're with me in Minnesota, and then who knows what's
going to happen in the next three games?
Speaker 7 (37:07):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (37:07):
Absolutely, all right, there you have.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
It the picture, both of us. We're on the side
of Minnesota. Thanks so much for hanging out with us
on this Memorial Day weekend. Again, please be safe, yep,
if you're traveling and take a moment to think of
those that gave the ultimate sacrifice, that lost their lives
fighting for all of us. Be safe on this Memorial Day.
Thanks to Chris Jason and you Monzi.
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